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:Protected as requested.  Thanks.  Please let me know if you recommend further protection concerning this issue.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:31, 10 January 2013 (EST)
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::Thanks. Probably need a Move or Redirect protect at '''[[Spending Authority]]'''' cause that's where the main dispute is at.  [[User:OscarO|OscarO]] 20:52, 10 January 2013 (EST)

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Question about Government Homework

Mr. Schlafly,

When I went to post my homework answers last night, Conservapedia did not allow me to “edit” the page. Does the website have a curfew? And for the future, when precisely are the homework assignments due? Thanks. --MorganT 17:42, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

Editing was turned off by the system for a few hours yesterday. Sorry for any inconvenience due to not being able to post. Assignments are due on Wednesdays, but it's not a problem that this homework was late.--Andy Schlafly 17:58, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
Thank you for clarifying. --MorganT

iPSC therapies

Sorry to belabor the point, but I thought you might find this interesting. There are currently fifteen active clinical trials in the United States using patient-derived stem cells ("adult stem cells") to treat spinal cord injuries. At least one of these trials uses induced pluripotent stem cells derived from terminally-differentiated cells. In spite of the astronomical cancer risk associated, this is an active area of clinical research in the United States.--JHunter 17:58, 20 November 2012 (EST)

The link says the location is South Korea, not the United States.
Anti-life types have not, and will not, allow meaningful therapy with adult stem cells in the United States for victims of paralysis.--Andy Schlafly 23:06, 20 November 2012 (EST)
Fair enough. This is a current clinical trial at Baylor using bone marrow derived stem cells to treat spinal cord injury.--JHunter 00:01, 21 November 2012 (EST)
You're right that this clinical trial is in the United States (Texas). Thanks for finding and linking to it. But look at how small and limited the study is: only ten people, and perhaps half of them would receive a placebo rather than the stem cell treatment. Allowing stem cell treatment on only 5 persons every 3 years (the study won't complete until 2014) is so little that it is almost nothing.
It is surprising that the study excludes non-English-speaking patients.--Andy Schlafly 17:30, 21 November 2012 (EST)

Panera Bread

This company must cater to the liberal/harassment crowd, including the one on Mowry Avenue, Fremont; they have that certain "homosexual execution" accuser sitting there now. Should we give them a call? Karajou 14:06, 21 November 2012 (EST)

What did the manager say? --DamianJohn 18:40, 21 November 2012 (EST)


I would recommend granting him delete privileges, as he has shown himself to be a fair sysop, and always vigilantly watching for spammers. Also, please do something about the 30 odd pages that still need to be deleted. Thanks, brenden 15:52, 21 November 2012 (EST)

Template fun

I am getting rusty on the template programming syntax, so it took me a few edits to get the right result on both the template documentation and on the individual articles (which should not show extra blank lines in the box.) Everything is fine now, so please protect away. Thanks, Wschact 00:03, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Well done! I've reprotected the template.--Andy Schlafly 00:13, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Epistle to the Hebrews

The idea that Jesus is the author of this text is held only by you. Is this enough to put it into an article? Please remember: "Everything you post must be true and verifiable. " --AugustO 14:38, 22 November 2012 (EST)

Um, I also hold the same belief as Aschlafly that the Epistle to the Hebrews was written by Jesus as I don't believe no one else would of had the insight to do it. Dvergne 04:54, 23 November 2012 (EST)
@Dvergne: You are highlighting the danger of the situation: any person not being well informed can be mislead by the authoritative statement in the article!
@Aschlafly: I'm trying to get a kind of poll of the sysops - at least of those (ten including you) who have edited this year (out of a total of thirty!)
--AugustO 19:32, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Deletion of User:GregG/Archive of User:Conservative FYI

User:Conservative deleted this page in my userspace without an explanation. I tried to contact him twice about the deletion at his message area, but he oversighted both of my contributions and protected his message area. Thus, I am asking you to either have User:Conservative explain the deletion of a page in my userspace and/or have the page restored. I also think that User:Conservative's actions in this matter qualify as abuse of administrative powers (and, as an aside, are very ironic considering this user's campaign against those who lack what he/she/it/they/I call "machismo"). Thanks, GregG 22:05, 24 November 2012 (EST)

GregG, you may look back and thank me. You are starting to get obsessed with my every edit and keeping a log of some of my non-main space edits. You are beginning to resemble evolutionists/atheists with Severe Conservapedia obsessive compulsive disorder. Just look at my deletion as an "intervention". A cold splash of water in the face to break your obsession with me.
We both know what is mainly causing this obsession. You inability to defend evolutionism against valid criticism plus my pointing out that Ken Miller can't either. Conservative 22:21, 24 November 2012 (EST)
This has nothing to do with evolution or religion. I am not obsessed with you. Also, it's ironic that this charge is coming from someone who showed enough dedication to my contributions and/or the recent changes page to delete a page in my userspace. GregG 22:35, 24 November 2012 (EST)
ETA Also, I don't see dedication to this project as a disorder. I trust that you wouldn't either, given your extensive contributions to the project. GregG 22:35, 24 November 2012 (EST)
GregG, now I am really beginning to worry. You are engaging in denialism about your obsession with me. Denialism is a classic symptom of atheists/evolutionists and individuals with Severe Conservapedia obsessive compulsive disorder. Do whatever it takes to break your cycle of obsession! Here are 15 ways to stop obsessing. Conservative 22:49, 24 November 2012 (EST)
By your logic, everyone is "obsessed" with Conservapedia; those who deny such, according to you, are exemplifying symptoms. Simply ridiculous. GregG 11:20, 25 November 2012 (EST)
Why don't you both focus on the original topic? I thought userspaces were supposed to be left to the user in question on this project. Isn't that one of the ways we are different from Wikipedia? I seem to recall reading that somewhere on here. Unfortunately, I can't see the page so I don't know what it said. But I think Conservative needs to explain his deletion. This has nothing to do with evolution, obsession, creationism, or any of the other things you guys have been getting into in this thread. It is a more simple matter than that. Focus. Gregkochuconn 21:39, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Feast of Christ the King is today

Perhaps this would be good to mention on our main page. GregG 11:21, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Hi Greg! It's almost time to begin our wait for the birth of Jesus Christ next week. Hope all is well. Because of His merciful love, Nate Nate 15:00, 25 November 2012 (EST)


You really should look into some way of installing questycaptcha. Also, any idea why they lately aren't spamming links to external sites, but rather spamming us with a wall of text, of no apparent advertisement value?brenden 22:09, 25 November 2012 (EST)

Possible page protection

Andy would you consider protecting Epistle to the Hebrews - currently it's only subject to redundant edit warring that is August removing the theory and MattyD parodying. This type of edit warring isn't good for the page.--IDuan 12:23, 26 November 2012 (EST)

Full disclosure after that initial request the edit warring has died down (hopefully because they finally realized how futile edit warring is)--IDuan 12:32, 26 November 2012 (EST)
What parody? I'm convinced! MattyD 18:34, 26 November 2012 (EST)


Hello; could you unprotect Template:cquote for 2 minutes for me? There's a bug in the template that's causing every page it's featured on to be listed in the categrory Category:Template Debug. Thanks so much! --IDuan 16:12, 26 November 2012 (EST)

Could you re-protect it?--IDuan 22:58, 27 November 2012 (EST)


I wrote articles for Jagdpanther and Tiger I tank, recently. I hate to bother you admins as I have seen you have to spend way too much time with spam and reverting vandalism. If you have the time could you find a photo for the articles? I don't know how to upload, nor determine a fair-use photo. Maybe it is something I could learn; is there a guide for it? Cheers, John.

Revisiting blocking due to names

Hi, best wishes to you on this lovely Sunday. :-) I have a small concern that I was wondering if you'd care to consider: blocking due to user names. Moments ago Dvergne blocked new user LordByron with an expiry time of 6 months with this reason: ("Silly and/or foul username. Account may be recreated as a first name and last initial"). I was wondering if we are being a bit too hasty in blocking for this reason? Certainly we have had way too many spammers/vandals/inappropriate name accounts, and have had to block way more than we should, but to block so quickly before a single edit is made, in a case like this where the use name is not particularly inappropriate, could this be a bit hasty on our part? Could we be discouraging legitimate users? I was just thinking that many older users such as myself, have "nonstandard" user names: Karajou, Conservative, JMR10, are a few other editors that come to mind. We are all valued, responsible editors, although we have non-traditional user names. Just a small thought that came to me today, and was wondering what you thought about it. Thank you for your consideration in this matter, blessings to you & yours. Taj 17:02, 2 December 2012 (EST)

Apologies for an extra edit; one more thought please. I just looked at our Guidelines and it currently states this:

Member Accounts

As a sign of good faith and accountability it is recommended that editors select a user name based on a permutation of their real name. Whenever this would cause confusion, a name based upon a hobby or characteristic would also be acceptable.

Perhaps we should revise either our policy to conform to guidelines or guidelines to conform to actuality. Thanks again, Taj 17:08, 2 December 2012 (EST)

Taj, you make excellent points, and your own edits are much appreciated. Perhaps a few blocks have been too hasty, as you say. But in defense of User:Dvergne, he's been doing many appropriate blocks and I think he was probably also correct in blocking "LordByron". The probability is very, very small that a real LordByron established that account, given how few "Lords" there are, and how advanced most are in age (and thus unlikely to be internet savvy). It is far more likely that someone who was not a Lord Byron picked that name, which would thereby warrant an immediate block.
But thanks for your comments and I'd be happy to look at any suggested rewording of the rules. User names other than real first names and last initials are allowed when the editor makes substantive, legitimate edits, but I'd rather not try to formalize that practice in the actual rule.--Andy Schlafly 19:30, 2 December 2012 (EST)
Ok, I understand. Thank you for the reply. I didn't really think that user was a Lord, I just thought perhaps the name would have been ok. But I understand that it is preferred to have real names. Best Wishes, Taj 19:39, 2 December 2012 (EST)
I don't have a firm view one way or the other about the policy. However perhaps a gentle reminder to blockers to not jump the gun might be in order. Today I had to unblock an editor who signed up as JBerttram42 who had been blocked under the username policy. There is no way of knowing whether this editor had good intentions for the site or not, but almost certainly if he was a good faith user he won't be back. --DamianJohn 01:51, 3 December 2012 (EST)


Andy, please change Template:University to {{{expense}}}/yr Thanks, Wschact 23:09, 2 December 2012 (EST)

Good suggestion. I think I added it correctly.--Andy Schlafly 23:28, 2 December 2012 (EST)

Use of the ethird person in the Epistle to the Hebrews

Aschlafly, you are claiming that in the Epistle to the Hebrews Jesus Christ is speaking about himself in the third person. That wouldn't be unheard of, we find this often in classical literature. E.g., when we read

Caesar saw the horse.

it could well be that Caesar was the author of this sentence. But what's about

Caesar saw me.

Here it is obvious that Caesar is not the author, as we have an instance of the first person (me). The same holds true for the Epistle to the Hebrews. One example is Hebrews 3:6

Χριστὸς δὲ ὡς υἱὸς ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ· οὗ οἶκός ἐσμεν ἡμεῖς ἐάνπερ τὴν παρρησίαν καὶ τὸ καύχημα τῆς ἐλπίδος μέχρι τέλους βεβαίαν κατάσχωμεν

Reading this, you see that Christ is set over the house, while we (including the author!) are the house. If you study the epistle diligently, you will find many such examples.

And please, address the points in the section Talk:Epistle to the Hebrews#"one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated_it"! --AugustO 03:58, 3 December 2012 (EST)

Aschlafly, until you have answered to this point, I remove the phrase ", and one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it" from the introduction of Epistle to the Hebrews. However, I keep in the sentence "Andrew Schlafly, founder of Conservapedia, proposes the possibility that Jesus Christ Himself was the author of this epistle (see Mystery:Did Jesus Write the Epistle to the Hebrews?)" from the section Epistle to the Hebrews#Author --AugustO 05:48, 4 December 2012 (EST)
Aschlafly, given your apparent aversion against the phrase "I was wrong" and your general shyness when it comes to replying to my comments on this encyclopedia, it is hard to tell whether you have abandoned your claim "one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated it" or just lost interest in the whole thing.
But if you don't address the points made on the talk-page Talk:Epistle to the Hebrews, I'll remove the sentence "Andrew Schlafly, founder of Conservapedia, proposes the possibility that Jesus Christ Himself was the author of this epistle (see Mystery:Did Jesus Write the Epistle to the Hebrews?)" from the article, too. --AugustO 02:35, 6 December 2012 (EST)

Semantic HTML markup

Dear Mr. Schlafly,

After seeing this edit, I noticed that you used the <br> tag. It's a good idea to use semantic markup where possible so that different users can understand how to format the articles appropriately for various devices. In this particular case, leaving a blank line will cause MediaWiki to crate a new paragraph, which is probably what you were intending. I can go ahead and fix these issues on other pages too. Thanks, GregG 20:22, 3 December 2012 (EST)

Protected Pages

Pretty much every important page on Conservapedia can only be edited by administrators now (as far as I can tell). While I understand the importance of protecting articles, I do not see why debate topics are also protected. Debate pages should be open to everyone and all opinions. RaymondZ 07:54, 4 December 2012 (EST)


Just a friendly note, I added two new requests to Conservapedia:Image upload requests. Thanks. --Qw, 4 December 2012

"Repent of this Athiesm"

"Repent of this atheism" on the main page should either be "repent for this atheism" or "rid himself of this atheism." You "repent for" something, you don't "repent of" it. Gregkochuconn 22:02, 7 December 2012 (EST)

Is it just a temporary loss of interest...

... or have you discarded your insight that one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated the Epistle to the Hebrews? An answer to this question could save me some work... --AugustO 11:17, 9 December 2012 (EST)

So, you haven't discarded the insight. Then I'm waiting for you to address the points above, i.e.,

Aschlafly, you are claiming that in the Epistle to the Hebrews Jesus Christ is speaking about himself in the third person. That wouldn't be unheard of, we find this often in classical literature. E.g., when we read

Caesar saw the horse.

it could well be that Caesar was the author of this sentence. But what's about

Caesar saw me.

Here it is obvious that Caesar is not the author, as we have an instance of the first person (me). The same holds true for the Epistle to the Hebrews. One example is Hebrews 3:6

Χριστὸς δὲ ὡς υἱὸς ἐπὶ τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ· οὗ οἶκός ἐσμεν ἡμεῖς ἐάνπερ τὴν παρρησίαν καὶ τὸ καύχημα τῆς ἐλπίδος μέχρι τέλους βεβαίαν κατάσχωμεν

Reading this, you see that Christ is set over the house, while we (including the author!) are the house. If you study the epistle diligently, you will find many such examples.

And please, address the points in the section Talk:Epistle to the Hebrews#"one plausible theory is that Jesus himself wrote or dictated_it"!

--AugustO 02:43, 10 December 2012 (EST)

ACLU attacking same-sex education...


I'd be very curious to hear your informed legal opinion on the following case, as it seems to fall very much within your area of expertise.


Hope you're well this Christmas season.

--Benp 18:52, 10 December 2012 (EST)

The ACLU has repeatedly opposed single-gender classes in public school, even though many schools and parents agree they work better. Thanks for linking to the above story, where the ACLU is complaining to the Department of Education, which creates a bit of a political issue for the Obama Administration. There are lots more of these single-gender schools than liberals want to admit - and they work well. I think there are even entire single-gender public schools now!
I am interested in these cases and I doubt the ACLU will win this issue in the long run. Thanks for mentioning it.--Andy Schlafly 21:33, 10 December 2012 (EST)

"Play in a State with so Much Liberal Mediocrity"

Technically, Tebow plays in New Jersey, home of Governor Chris Christie, who is neither mediocre nor a liberal. But I can't figure out how to rephrase it so it's factually accurate and not awkward-sounding, so unless you can do so, I'd just leave it that way on the main page. Nobody thinks of the Jets as being from New Jersey anyway. Gregkochuconn 16:58, 12 December 2012 (EST)

NJ voted for Obama in 2008/2012 and Obama is very liberal and more liberal than the RINO Mitt Romney.
Tea Party people and many other conservatives don't think Christie is a conservative.[1][2][3]
The team's fans are primarily in the New York metropolitan area which includes parts of NY/NJ. Conservative 20:37, 12 December 2012 (EST)


Has the "Email this user" feature been disabled? I'm a bit rusty, but I can't seem to find it on any user pages. I also can't edit my email address under my preferences, which has changed since I was last here (finally jumped from hotmail to gmail). -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 14:26, 14 December 2012 (EST)

The email feature is disabled. It could return at some point. Sorry for any inconvenience.--Andy Schlafly 15:50, 14 December 2012 (EST)
No inconvenience, just curiosity. Thanks. -- Jeff W. LauttamusDiscussion 16:02, 14 December 2012 (EST)

Selective information

It is known the killer was homeschooled. If you want to censor that it's your encyclopedia and I've deferred to you before. But it is known he was homeschooled. Here is a source from a family relative saying the mother pulled her son out of public school because she was unhappy with the public school's plan for her son. If you want to leave it out because it's awkward for you then fine.--IDuan 15:41, 16 December 2012 (EST)

The cited source is not enough support for the claim. Was this merely a dispute with the school district that lasted only a few days, or a few weeks? There is much greater evidence that Adam Lanza attended public high school, with an entry for him in the graduation yearbook.
No other homeschooler has corroborated the claim that Adam Lanza was homeschooled. Perhaps his mom thought about homeschooling him, and tried homeschooling briefly, but apparently she opted for public school instead.--Andy Schlafly 15:50, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Even if he was homeschooled for a brief period of time - he was homeschooled. In a true encyclopedia you don't leave out information so you can conveniently avoid discussion; you either mention the controversy or find a factually correct way around it (which would be listing both - since both are true). Mentioning that his mom considered homeschooling but chose public schools does not present the reality that he was - PERHAPS for a brief period of time but certainly for a time period - home schooled.--IDuan 15:53, 16 December 2012 (EST)
No, merely pulling a child out of public school because of a dispute with the school is not "homeschooling". It's called keeping the kid at home in protest.--Andy Schlafly 16:07, 16 December 2012 (EST)
Iduan, you are a good editor, but in this case I think you are wrong. I agree with ASchlafly, I don't think Adam Lanza can properly be termed "home schooled". Home schooling involves set lesson plans, a consistent progress evaluation, and a home teacher or parent who has a great interest in or background in childhood education and willingness to devote a lot of time for this. As the facts stand, we know that Lanza's mother removed him from public school due to a dispute with the school, it wasn't a predetermined plan for homeschooling, and we have no information on what type of schooling he received at home. In any case, this situation is an anomaly, a very unusual occurance, in that this young man was already known to have behavioral issues and personality problems. He is not typical of, or representative of, most home schooled children. (I looked up info and statistics on this, that's how I came to this conclusion). It would be accurate to say his mother removed him from public school at some point, but it just doesn't seem right to say he was "home schooled". In my opinion. Thanks, Taj 17:32, 16 December 2012 (EST)

Personal Honeypot

I've set up a honeypot wiki, to track and monitor wiki spammers. If you want, I can give you checkuser priviledges there, so you can partake in the experiment/project yourself. Url, if you are interested. brenden 23:27, 17 December 2012 (EST)

Merry Christmas!

As I will be spending the next few days offline with family, a very merry Christmas to you and your family, sir. --Benp 14:12, 23 December 2012 (EST)

And Merry Christmss to you and your family, Ben!--Andy Schlafly 14:15, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Your most recent counterexample to relativity (#48, about a black hole "firewall") is really fascinating. I had never heard about that idea, or about the "AMPS" (Almheiri, Polchinski, Marolf and Sully) hypothesis in general, though I knew about strange goings-on within the Planck distance from the event horizon. I have a lot of reading to catch up on, and will try to get back in a couple of days.

Santa may find me asleep, slumped in my chair with a book in my hand. I'll try to leave at least a few cookies for him, but there's no guarantee. Late-night physics reading creates a strong craving for chocolate chips.....

Merry Christmas. JudyJ 19:12, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Was I late :| ? Merry Christmas, Mr. Schlafly! brenden 22:40, 24 December 2012 (EST)

Frohe Weihnacht!


Merry Christmas from Germany! BTW, I'd appreciate if the further review of my blocking rights could be finished this year. --AugustO 18:23, 23 December 2012 (EST)

I hope that you will find time in the remaining days of this year to right this little wrong. Thank you! --AugustO 15:39, 26 December 2012 (EST)
Merry Christmas! And may Jesus's own writing in His Epistle to the Hebrews guide and inspire us in 2013!--Andy Schlafly 15:56, 26 December 2012 (EST)

  • I'm pleased that the further review is now finished: the restoration of my blocking rights is the vindication I've been looking for over the last months. Thank you very much, that was a nice Christmas surprise!
  • Jesus's own writing Well, that is still only your personal opinion, and I'm looking forward to your arguments at Mystery:Did_Jesus_Write_the_Epistle_to_the_Hebrews?#Rebuttals_in_detail! But when I'm praying The Lord's Prayer over the next days - the one we know that Jesus personally taught us - I'll include you in my thoughts.
AugustO 02:30, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Early voting and voter ID

Dear Mr. Schlafly,

I know you are interested in early voting, so I finished my analysis of early voting and voter ID in the strict photo voter ID states. You can find it at User:GregG/Early voting and voter ID. Merry Christmas, GregG 11:28, 24 December 2012 (EST)


I am troubled by biographical articles that do not name the individual nor supply reliable secondary sources about the individual. Today an article was created on Djw0071, but there are no real sources and the article was immediately protected. We have no way of knowing whether this person exists (or whether this person is a close friend of the person that wrote the article.) Absent reliable sources and the give-and-take of the editorial process, I respectfully question whether such an article complies with CP policy. Do you feel that the page should be protected from editing? Thanks, Wschact 02:14, 27 December 2012 (EST)

I fail to see the points in your argument as Djw0071 clearly exists as they have a youtube channel that has a nice selection of quite informative videos. The page locking is a bit annoying as I can see a few grammatical errors.` Dvergne 02:49, 27 December 2012 (EST)
I would be equally concerned whether it was appropriate for an encyclopedia to have articles in its mainspace about virtually unknown and irrelevant people on Youtube. The guy has 30 subscribers, and his 15 or so videos have only been viewed a total of 10,700 times, in the 4 years he has been on Youtube. This makes him a complete unknown and not notable in the least. There simply shouldn't be an article on anyone at Conservapedia unless they are even marginally significant. --DamianJohn 02:50, 27 December 2012 (EST)
Those numbers do seem a bit low, however there is evidence that Creationist channels are not treated as equally as say Evolutionist channels on youtube. Dvergne 02:55, 27 December 2012 (EST)
I don't believe that for a second but however. If you look at his videos, they are actually of pretty average quality. "Cat farting" is unlikely to get many views nor is a spectacularly banal point he makes about something Obiwan Kenobi says compared to Yoda, or a rant about hotdogs. It seems pretty clear to me that there is a bit of a quid pro quo going on here here; the owner/operator of the Question Evolution! has agreed to advertise Djw's channel in return for Djw giving that blog a plug in a video. That seems fair enough to me, and I encourage both parties to proceed with the best of luck, however it is NOT something that Conservapedia should be involved with. The mainspace of Conservapdia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not an advertising medium for various blogs. The community will be looking to Aschlafly to provide leadership on this issue. --DamianJohn 03:19, 27 December 2012 (EST)
I have to agree that it was poor judgment to create Djw0071. The four "sources" provided are all links to the same anonymous blog, of which only two distinct pages are cited. And, as someone with a YouTube account (albeit one that has not had any new videos uploaded in about 3 years), I can assure you that, on statistics alone (which are about the same as mine), the channel is nowhere close to being notable. I don't see why non-notable people on the Internet have articles while this encyclopedia still lacks information on very notable people. GregG 11:01, 27 December 2012 (EST)

We all know that Djw0071 is poised to be a rising star in young earth creationism. Evolutionists, let's stop pretending otherwise. :) Conservative 13:49, 29 December 2012 (EST)

Merry Christmas

And a Merry Christmas to you too! DouglasA 14:01, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Overzealous blocking

Aschlafy, please have a look here (or, if it the section gets deleted, here). --AugustO 23:51, 27 December 2012 (EST)

vandal spree

By the time you read this (and probably revert to my version :-), you will see that there's been some bad goings on. Isn't there a policy that someone with blocking powers should be "on duty" at all times? Isn't that why editing is shut down overnight? Never mind. AlanE just stepped up. JudyJ 22:02, 29 December 2012 (EST)

SkipCaptcha and reverting

Dear Mr. Schlafly,

Pardon my thinking aloud, but I think it should be possible to not prompt for a CAPTCHA when reverting an article to a previous revision. I'll take a look on MediaWiki to see if there is a way to add this feature. GregG 23:47, 29 December 2012 (EST)

Someone has already requested such a feature [4], but it hasn't had any activity since June 2011. GregG 23:58, 29 December 2012 (EST)
Good suggestion - perhaps someone will add that feature.--Andy Schlafly 23:59, 29 December 2012 (EST)


Thanks Aschlafly for the clean up of the mass vandalism by Germanottaparamore, which included my talk page and many others, as well. Cheers, --JohnJustice 11:19, 31 December 2012 (EST)


My name is Cole and I need help. I recently made an article about a website that harasses Conservapedia and its users. It was deleted. So I decided to go to Ed Poor for help.

This is what I said and stand by:

Im new here and need some help. I figured I would go to you since you seem very involved in the community. I recently tried to instate an article about R*tional Wiki and suddenly it was deleted. I thought since we had an article about Wikipedia that we could write about wikis. I also noticed that it had been deleted several times by the same people. Why? The words are spam filtered to. I feel that we need to write about the faults and propaganda of this completely biased website. Not to mention they completely badmouth you in the most rude ways. Please help...

To which he responded:

If you want to write about a website which slanders us, please contact User:Aschlafly for permission.

So I did and would like to know your opinion on the matter. Thank you--Colesmithsayshi 16:04, 31 December 2012 (EST)

I would like to request some changes to the Video game article

I recently spoke with another editor concerning some edits to the video game article I considered erroneous and in some cases, spurious, and he suggested I refer my concerns to you.

The full list of most of my concerns can be found on the talk page for the article, but there was a claim you added that I did find a reference for, specifically, the one about how video games have contributed to the dropout rate of colleges:


The page referenced here is from 2008, but it does reinforce an assertion I initially removed that I originally found groundless. Still, I believe it would be wise to have a more contemporary source for this assertion, as it was one of the few articles I could find that defended that assertion.

For example, these articles cite other causes that have been consistently cited and verified elsewhere:




However, I have to confess to taking issue with the removal of the statement about games contributing to the development of critical thinking, which I know is not true as a gamer, and these articles can easily reinforce that point as valid:





For these reasons, I believe that article needs the part about critical thinking restored, and the part you added about drop out rates should probably be added farther down the page around the part where the article discusses the social impact of gaming (for good and ill).

PatrickMarion 08:46, 3 January 2013 (EST)PatrickMarion

I have no desire to contribute anything further to this website

I consider myself myself a Christian, I try believe the Bible is word of God, and I try not to sin against my fellow man, and I do think abortion and homosexuality have no moral standing in the eyes of God, and that he sent his son Jesus (who was God in human form) as our redemption and the Holy Spirit as a guide to that redemption.

At the same time, I believe in the God who redeems the sinful and hates the sin but not the sinner, a God who was stern but willing to show love for his enemies, even willing to die on a Cross for his enemies, friends, and even those who did not know him so that all may have everlasting life, and I believe in the God who showed kindness to not only prostitutes and tax collectors, but also to the very Pharisees who would eventually put him on the Cross, wishing to forgive them for the sheer gravity of the sin they didn't realize they were committing as he died there.

With that said, I must confess I heard a lot of bad press about Conservapedia before coming here, and I decided to follow the example of that tolerant, loving God, and I decided to ignore the scorn and derision of its critics, so I registered an account to post here, because while it did seem a little farther to the right than I anticipated, I did appreciate the idea of a conservative oriented wiki project, so I decided to contribute.

At first, I was frustrated by the general disorganization of the site and limited rights I had as an editor, but considered the frequent vandalism I seen that had to be undone, I understood the reasons for those limits and decided to contribute as best I could in helping improve the site quality.

I was aware that many parodists and trolls had infiltrated the site and had corrupted articles, and when I read over the articles accusing Obama of being a Muslim without any real proof that would withstand the scrutiny of a court of law (which, as I understand, would be an anathema to you, Mr. Schlafly, as you are a lawyer), I decided to investigate those sources to see if they had any basis to them.

Before I continue, I do not believe Obama has been an effective President of America nor an effective political leader, and I don't entirely believe his stated faith and his public morality matched up, but even Christians can fall away from the word of God, and unless there was solid proof of his being a Muslim, I will not accuse anyone of something I cannot prove, just as Jesus refused to accuse the Pharisees of things he could not prove, And besides, freedom of religious expression is an integral constitutional right, and even if Obama were a Muslim, that is completely immaterial to me as long as it does not infringe on my right to be a Christian.

As for those sources, I investigated many of them, and many of those sources were not only conservatively biased (this is an educational resource with a conservative focus, so that is not entirely bad), but some were clearly wrong, such as the oath of office not taking place on a bible (that's tradition, not law) being proof Obama was a Muslim, the point about Obama's middle name (even if he were a Muslim, even Muslim tradition would have no objection to his middle name, and US law would not require his name be changed for any reason), and most disgusting of all, the fact a Youtube video produced a religious bigot who equated Nazism with Islam accused Obama of mocking the Bible (I found the Original broadcast of the excerpted comments, and they were taken out of context) was clearly nothing but anti-Muslim hatred.

For the record, the reason I take issue with anti-Muslim hatred is this: they worship the same God as do Christians and Jews, so even if Obama were still Muslim, he still believes in the same God as you or I do, and he hasn't infringed on our rights to worship that God in any way, so the focus on his religion and why he must be a Muslim sounded more than a little paranoid. Besides, while John F. Kennedy was a Catholic, I would no more hold that against him than I would Obama being a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Shinto, Scientologist or even an agnostic or atheist, since the Constitution guarantees the right to believe anything you want, and while his public morality and political career seems like relevant targets of a conservative wiki, I found it frankly ridiculous and more than a little suspect about the focus on how Obama HAD TO BE a Muslim since quit I posting the day before this message.

When I finally decided to check back in, not only were the words other editors who also had reasonable doubts ignored (despite being legitimate), but I found this:

Mystery:Why Do Some Oppose the Likelihood that Obama Is Muslim?

It wasn't even an extension of the religion debate, it was basically asking why anyone would doubt your own assertion Obama was a Muslim, and coupled with a reversal of almost every single reasonable doubt on the topic, I can only conclude your mind has already been made up that Obama is a Muslim, and while I don't understand your motives for this nor why the opinions of those who are clearly bigoted are allowed to stand as if they were as legitimate fact, I can only further conclude this wiki is little more than a vehicle for bigotry, intolerance, and hatred, just as was asserted in another wiki that criticizes this one and even a blog by a former administrator, and if that's the case, I want to be be permanently blocked as an editor from this wiki, as I want no more association with it, just as Jesus wished the temple of God to have no more association with moneychangers.

I bear you nor anyone else here any malice or ill will, Mr. Schlafly, but if this website is a representation of what true conservatives are like, then by its standards I'm a liberal. If this place is a representation of what followers of Christ believe, then by its standards I'm a heretic. And finally, if you want to know what I think a Christian is, then here it is in a sentence:

This user is a Christian, and remembers that Jesus preached tolerance and love, not homophobia and hate.

PatrickMarion 08:52, 4 January 2013 (EST)PatrickMarion

Patrick, I don't have time right now to read your lengthy posting. Whether Obama is a Muslim is matter of historical and political interest, and discussions about it are appropriate and enlightening. There is nothing anti-Muslim about it. Quite the contrary, it is important to give credit where it is due.--Andy Schlafly 10:51, 4 January 2013 (EST)

Can I respectfully suggest

That you consider whether Dvergne is the sort of person that should have blocking privileges here. He maliciously and without sufficient cause blocked me for an hour. Despite me being able to unblock myself I was unable to edit. His stated reason was that I had blocked a user named Funforever for breach of the name policy whilst in the middle of a bit of a swarm of spammers. If a mistake was made by me, I would hope that people entrusted with block powers would have the maturity to leave a comment on my talkpage, and not just deliberately seek to inflame the situation. --DamianJohn 22:58, 6 January 2013 (EST)

It seems this incident was a misunderstanding and the user has recreated their account (however it normally directly says so) Dvergne 23:03, 6 January 2013 (EST)
Dvergne was right about the unjustified block of "Funforever", who had done many legitimate edits. It seems this was a misunderstanding that has been cleared up.--Andy Schlafly 23:06, 6 January 2013 (EST)
Was he right to just block me though. Don't you think a quick note to me might have been a more mature and appropriate response? --DamianJohn 23:09, 6 January 2013 (EST)
No! There is something buiLding here. A "mitteleuropa"-type pre- or neo-nazi thing happening. Andy - shut it down!AlanE 23:23, 6 January 2013 (EST)

English names for foreign cities

Could you please take a look here? Thanks. --AugustO 03:28, 7 January 2013 (EST)

Upload request

I have an image I'd like to upload and insert in the article George Bernard Shaw. Can you tell me how to proceed? FOIA 16:11, 10 January 2013 (EST)

Please email a link to the image to conservapedia@zoho.com. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly 20:29, 10 January 2013 (EST)

Spending authority vs Backdoor spending authority

There seems to be a dispute brewing over a redirect from spending authority to backdoor spending authority. The terms are identical in meaning, and according to a former Rules Committee Chairwoman "spending authority" is merely the technical term for "backdoor authority". Can the Spending authority page be protected after a Redirect, or is there a process to resolve such an issues? Thanks. OscarO 20:26, 10 January 2013 (EST)

Protected as requested. Thanks. Please let me know if you recommend further protection concerning this issue.--Andy Schlafly 20:31, 10 January 2013 (EST)
Thanks. Probably need a Move or Redirect protect at Spending Authority' cause that's where the main dispute is at. OscarO 20:52, 10 January 2013 (EST)