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Obama's Religion

The polls varied between 10% and 18%, so "1 in 4" is not an accurate summary. If you don't like my revision, we can go back to my first phrasing of the sentence, but I think this last one is better. Thanks, Wschact 23:08, 4 January 2013 (EST)

It is accurate (as nearly 20% is 1 in 5) [5] [6] and I oppose the insertion of rumor. We don't have his baptism records and Obama can't be trusted with what he says. It's not a rumor, it's not fact, it is an unknown assumption. Replacing a sentence somebody just added reeks of edit war incivility. --Jpatt 23:18, 4 January 2013 (EST)

In addition to the polling, the evidence is overwhelming that Obama is Muslim. Given how the liberal media censor any discussion of this issue. the polling data on it is even more remarkable.--Andy Schlafly 23:47, 4 January 2013 (EST)
Thank you for the feedback. From an editorial viewpoint, I am trying to maintain flow. Obama's quotation uses the phrase "rumors that have been over the Internet" and "score political points". I think that he is referring to the 2007 email blasts that started this. (I personally believe that such an effort would have come from a prospective Democratic primary opponent rather than from a true conservative.) So the sentence following the quote should stick with "rumor" rather than inject "best efforts of Obama's supporters" without any predicate. As for the polling, I believe the more polling references provided in the article, the better. I am pleased that the "one in four" language was changed. However, the bottom line is that if we are going to "let the readers decide", we should drop phrases like "Starting in 2007, unidentified people revealed that he was most likely a Muslim." I believe that the article can be written in a way that leaves CP without answering the question one way or the other. This issue is not important to me, but as the public face of CP, Aschlafly could take a serious hit in his personal reputation if this page receives widespread media attention in its current form. The folks that funded the 2007 email effort did not leave fingerprints, but it would be ironic if Aschlafly picked up the smoldering gun with his bare hands just in time to be identified as the proponent of the issue. Wschact 03:19, 6 January 2013 (EST)
I wouldn't concern yourself about Aschlafly's reputation. Obama's quotation is more subterfuge. Obama could have specifically put the questions about his faith to rest, just as he could have come clean on his birth certificate. He prefers mystery that surrounds his life in order to hit his critics on demand. Despite the best efforts of Obama supporters is accurate. They don't want anybody to question Obama's words on the matter. We are supposed to take his word as his bond. I don't trust liars.--Jpatt 13:49, 6 January 2013 (EST)

User:Wschact

Sorry for bothering you, Today, I unblocked User:Wschact, as I felt that the comment he made, here, was not very bad. If you disagree, please revert back to your decision. Just wanted you to know,


brenden 20:14, 5 January 2013 (EST)

ok --Jpatt 20:33, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Sorry to bother you again, but I hope you are aware that you added Chuck Hagel to the Obama's Religion a second time. It was already at the top of the list. Perhaps you may want to consolidate. Thanks, Wschact 23:33, 7 January 2013 (EST)

I am not clear as to what was the concern with this edit. I believe the audience and the fact that he made the speech during the middle of his first term as President is important to the context. Providing a link to the full text is also helpful to the readers. I also believe that the reference to Muslim teaching against same sex marriage is important to the readers. A home schooled student should learn that a wide variety of religions teach against same sex marriage. Your wording implies that Muslims approve of same sex marriage, when there is widespread opposition. Thanks, Wschact 05:36, 8 January 2013 (EST)

I see that you care deeply for Obama's religion. I don't know why you fear my examples so much that you have to make changes. Obama claims to be a Christian while attacking the Christian faith. You want to make it as Obama is attacking the Christian and Muslim faith. No Muslim religious people are ordered to perform same-sex marriage against their beliefs. CAIR has not made any complaints against Obama's gay policy. Muslims overwhelming voted for Obama in '12 just as they did in '08 despite his gay marriage stance. What you deem important is just another attempt to water-down my examples. Do me a favor, I don't need you to correct my work. You want to edit the other entries, go ahead. Leave my work alone. --Jpatt 06:34, 8 January 2013 (EST)