Essay: Open letter to the British agnostic "Mercian"
To the British agnostic who goes by the moniker Mercian,
Have you ever thought that one reason Wyoming legislators haven't been on top of passing anti-bestiality laws is that there is not a significant problem in their state concerning this matter?
When I think of modern day Wyoming, the first thing that comes into mind is not a decadent culture like Berlin in the 1920s.
Quora on "What's the state of Wyoming best known for?"
|“||We are known for our wide open spaces, huge crystal clear skies, clean air (albeit fast moving), cowboys, huge cattle ranches, rugged individualism, and a solid work ethic. We are used driving 80-100 miles to the doctor, restaurants, stores, and hair salons. It is a beautiful place to live."||”|
Moveto.com says about Wyoming: "It Might Be The Most Peaceful Place On Earth". And Moveto.com's article entitled 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There doesn't make a single reference to bestiality. If Wyoming had a significant problem with bestiality surely the article would have mentioned it as there were 30 opportunities to do so!
Face it, Wyoming is not well-known for bestiality! Wyoming has no significant bestiality problem. Wyoming citizens don't stay up at night wondering if their dogs are going to be protected by anti-bestiality laws someday.
Do a Google search on "Wyoming decadent" and you will see that nothing really notable comes up. Google's first search result that comes up for me indicates, "Wyoming restaurant's pecan pie brownie is love at first bite... When it comes to decadent dessert, sometimes simple is best." Decadent pecan pie brownie recipes posted on the front page of newspapers generally don't sell a lot of newspapers.
Now do a Google search on "Britain decadent" and you will find more substantial articles.
In 2005, the BBC declared:
|“|| Muslims who criticise the 'decadent' nature of British society are right, a group of Conservative MPs has said.
In a letter to The Spectator, the six newly-elected MPs support criticism of the UK's "lawlessness, family breakdown ... binge drinking" and "brutishness".
Brian Binley, Peter Bone, David Burrows, Philip Davies, Robert Goodwill and Mark Harper represent a "new generation" of Tory MPs, they say.
They blame "woolly-minded" liberal thinking for society's sliding values.
When British Muslims, who are not exactly world famous for their moral rectitude (see: Grooming gangs abused more than 700 women and girls around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims), credibly accuse your nation of being decadent, your nation is in trouble.
In addition, please look at these articles about the state of Washington which is far less religious than Wyoming and more liberal than Wyoming: Washington State is No. 1 in Bestiality - Seattlemet.com and Map of Shame and Washington state See also: Washington state and bestiality
In 2005, columnist Danny Westneat reported in the Seattle Times:
|“|| Which brings me back to sex with horses. The story last summer about the man who died from a perforated colon while having sex with a horse in Enumclaw was by far the year's most read article.
What's more, four more of the year's 20 most clicked-upon local news stories were about the same horse-sex incident. We don't publish our Web-traffic numbers, but take it from me — the total readership on these stories was huge.
So much so, a case can be made that the articles on horse sex are the most widely read material this paper has published in its 109-year history.
I don't know whether to ignore this alarming factoid or to embrace it.
Once again, a bestiality news story sells more papers than a pecan pie brownie recipe on the front page of a Wyoming newspaper.
Next, please read this 2017 Metro article published concerning bestiality parties in the UK: The dark truth about bestiality parties.
Mercian, can you show me that Wyoming citizens have recently had a problem with bestiality parties in their state? If not, consider taking your own advice about cleaning up one's own backyard (See: Bestiality and Britain).
Also, while I am certainly not against passing anti-bestiality laws, passing legislation against committing various acts is not a panacea. People do engage in illegal behavior. Societies addressing the root causes of bad behavior can also be very useful.
Mercian, at your wiki, I dare you to create a well-sourced article on "Evangelical Christianity and bestiality" showing that evangelical Christians have a notable problem with engaging in bestiality. You can't do it. On the other hand, the nonreligious/irreligious have had a problem with engaging in bestiality recently (see: Atheism and bestiality and Bestiality and various geographic areas).
- 1 British tourist arrested on bestiality farm in Washington state
- 2 Summary comments to Mercian
- 3 Other essays relating to British atheists
- 4 Conservapedia is proven right again concerning British/UK decline
- 5 Commentary concerning 3 classic British songs
- 6 The thrill of Christian victory and the agony of agnostic/atheist defeat
- 7 See also
- 8 Notes
British tourist arrested on bestiality farm in Washington state
See also: Washington state and bestiality
On April 17, 2011, the Examiner ran a story entitled Bestiality farm raided in Washington state, Douglas Spink arrested which declared:
|“|| Douglas Spink, 39, had been arrested in 2005 for smuggling cocaine and was on supervised release after serving three years for his crime. Under the conditions of Douglas Spink’s release, he must adhere to all local, state, and federal laws for five years. Now authorities believe that Spink violated the terms of that release by providing animals for sex acts on an alleged bestiality farm. It has also been suggested that there is a mutual connection between Douglas Spink and Kenneth Pinyan. Pinyan was a Gig Harbor, Washington man who died after engaging in sexual acts with a horse. The case drew national attention and became known as the “Enumclaw horse sex case.”...
On Wednesday, April 14, 2010 authorities raided Douglas Spink’s animal farm and arrested Spinks and a tourist, Stephen Clarke from Peterborough, England. Authorities described some of the evidence found at the scene as ‘bizarre.’ The raid was conducted by the Whatcom County Sheriff’s Office in assistance with the U.S. Probation Department, U.S. Marshals Office, and the FBI. Reports state that authorities seized dogs, horses, and mice. There were reportedly thousands of images of bestiality and child pornography found on the property as well.
The Huffington Post reported:
|“||When agents searched Spink's home, they found a video of a man sexually abusing dogs -- and that man, Clarke, was still on the property, wearing the same clothes as in the video, Elfo said. He was charged with animal cruelty and made an initial appearance in Whatcom County Superior Court on Thursday.||”|
Summary comments to Mercian
I hope this helps clarify things for you. And as much as I hate to say it, once again, I declare victory. :) And it wasn't due to my debating prowess, but rather due to the weakness/futility of your arguments and the weakness of atheist/agnostic ideology.
Mercian, declare unconditional surrender on the Atheism/agnosticism vs. Christianity bestiality front in terms of ill behavior of the respective sides in recent history. Your side utterly lost this battle and the sooner you admit this, the better off you will be. Trying to obtain the moral high ground on this issue is an exercise in futility despite how hard you may try. I declare a glorious victory on behalf of all Christendom! :)
Take the advice of a fellow Brit: "This chapter discusses the second principle of Sun Tzu’s The Art of War and its application in military situations. The avoid strength, strike weakness principle flows directly from the first principle of win all without fighting. If win all without fighting is the nation’s ultimate goal, then avoid strength, attack weakness is the key to achieving it. Attacking the opponent’s weak points is a much more effective and efficient use of the nation’s resources; it shortens the road to victory and increases the value of the victory." - oxfordscholarship.com
Again, give up your notion of capturing the moral high ground for Western atheists/agnostics on the bestiality issue. The atheists/agnostics will forever be at the bottom of the hill and will never be at the top of the hill when it comes to this issue.
Mercian does not take up my challenge
I challenged the British, agnostic Mercian to create a well-sourced article on "Evangelical Christianity and bestiality" showing ill behavior on the part of evangelical Christians. Of course, he cannot do it and doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to admit this matter.
Both theists and atheists frequently accuse agnostics of being cowardly, due to their wishy-washy rejection of God. Studs Terkel, a self-described agnostic, jokingly referred to the frequent charge of agnostics being called cowardly, "You happen to be talking to an agnostic. You know what an agnostic is? A cowardly atheist". See also: Atheism and cowardice
Other essays relating to British atheists
- A British atheist on Conservapedia's atheism articles
- Essay: British agnostic acknowledges the reasonableness of a User: Conservative editor
- Does the new atheist Richard Dawkins have machismo?
Conservapedia is proven right again concerning British/UK decline
See also: United Kingdom's road repair crisis
- Crumbling Britain: the UK’s pothole plague is a sign of national decline, New Statesman, June 13, 2018
Even the British New Statesman admits that the UK pothole crisis is a sign of national decline.
A message to Mercian and other British agnostics/atheists/evolutionists: Britannia is not ruling the waves
"Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!" - Lyrics of Rule Britannia
Commentary concerning 3 classic British songs
- United Kingdom national anthem, God Save the Queen (with lyrics)
- Land of Hope and Glory with lyrics - British patriotic song composed in 1902 which makes references to God
- Rule Britannia (With lyric annotations) - Song makes reference to "Heaven's command" and guardian angels
There you have it. Three of the most classic British songs all make reference to God. If only Britain hadn't embraced Darwinism/godlessness, perhaps it would not be in such steep decline at this time.
The thrill of Christian victory and the agony of agnostic/atheist defeat
Other open letters:
- Essay: Message to the British agnostic/evolutionist Mercian
- Essay: An Open Letter to a New Zealand atheist
- Essay: A Second Open Letter to a New Zealand atheist
- Essay: A Third Open Letter to a New Zealand atheist
- Essay: A fourth open letter to a New Zealand atheist
User: Conservative essays:
- UK among most sceptical in world about religion, The Telegraph, 2014
- Nearly 50% are of no religion – but has UK hit ‘peak secular’?, The Guardian, 2017
- "What is Wyoming known for, Quora.com
- 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There
- 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There
- Wyoming restaurant's pecan pie brownie is love at first bite
- Christopher Hitchens: Despite Cancer, I'd Drink & Smoke Again
- Muslims 'right about decadent UK'
- Horse sex story was online hit by Danny Westneat, Seattle Times - December 30, 2005
- Bestiality farm raided in Washington state, Douglas Spink arrested April 17, 2011, Examiner - Charisse Van Horn, US Headlines Examiner
- Douglas Spink Arrested In BESTIALITY Case: Mice In Vaseline, Dogs, Horses Found At Exitpoint Stallions Limitee
- Avoid Strength, Attack Weakness, oxfordscholarship.com
- Studs Terkel, a self-described agnostic, jokingly referred to the frequent charge of agnostics being called cowardly, "You happen to be talking to an agnostic. You know what an agnostic is? A cowardly atheist".
- Interview:Studs Terkel, PBS
- Migrants are STILL crossing English Channel under cover of darkness despite Royal Navy clippers scrambled to stop them, The Sun, January 19, 2019
- The “Atheism Movement:” Dead or Alive?, Freethought Blogs
- Atheist activist Seth Andrews keeps seeing reports on social media and the media that the atheist movement is dying, Examining Atheism
- Atheist Aron Ra indicates the atheist movement is dead. Now that that Aron Ra has surrendered...., Examining Atheism
- The Day the Atheist Movement Died by Jack Vance at Atheist Revolution
- Jennifer McCreight on Twitter about the Elevatorgate scandal destroying the atheist movement, Jen McCreight, Twitter
- The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050, Pew Research Forum