Essay: Open letter to the British agnostic "Mercian"

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In 2014, The Telegraph reported: "The British are among the most sceptical in the world about religion, a global study has found."[1]

The Guardian published an article in 2017 entitled Nearly 50% are of no religion – but has UK hit ‘peak secular’?[2] See: also: British atheism and European desecularization in the 21st century

To the British agnostic who goes by the moniker Mercian,

re: your comment on the lack of anti-bestiality laws in Wyoming.

Have you ever thought that one reason Wyoming legislators haven't been on top of passing anti-bestiality laws is that there is not a significant problem in their state concerning this matter?

When I think of modern day Wyoming, the first thing that comes into mind is not a decadent culture like Berlin in the 1920s.

Quora on "What's the state of Wyoming best known for?"

We are known for our wide open spaces, huge crystal clear skies, clean air (albeit fast moving), cowboys, huge cattle ranches, rugged individualism, and a solid work ethic. We are used driving 80-100 miles to the doctor, restaurants, stores, and hair salons. It is a beautiful place to live."[3]

Moveto.com says about Wyoming: "It Might Be The Most Peaceful Place On Earth".[4] And Moveto.com's article entitled 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There doesn't make a single reference to bestiality.[5] If Wyoming had a significant problem with bestiality surely the article would have mentioned it as there were 30 opportunities to do so!

Face it, Wyoming is not well-known for bestiality! Wyoming has no significant bestiality problem. Wyoming citizens don't stay up at night wondering if their dogs are going to be protected by anti-bestiality laws someday.

Do a Google search on "Wyoming decadent" and you will see that nothing really notable comes up. Google's first search result that comes up for me indicates, "Wyoming restaurant's pecan pie brownie is love at first bite... When it comes to decadent dessert, sometimes simple is best."[6] Decadent pecan pie brownie recipes posted on the front page of newspapers generally don't sell a lot of newspapers.

Now do a Google search on "Britain decadent" and you will find more substantial articles.

The Britain born new atheists Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins. The late Christopher Hitchens was known for his heavy drinking.[7]

In 2005, the BBC declared:

Muslims who criticise the 'decadent' nature of British society are right, a group of Conservative MPs has said.

In a letter to The Spectator, the six newly-elected MPs support criticism of the UK's "lawlessness, family breakdown ... binge drinking" and "brutishness".

Brian Binley, Peter Bone, David Burrows, Philip Davies, Robert Goodwill and Mark Harper represent a "new generation" of Tory MPs, they say.

They blame "woolly-minded" liberal thinking for society's sliding values.[8]

See also: Britain and alcoholism and Atheism and alcoholism

When British Muslims, who are not exactly world famous for their moral rectitude (see: Grooming gangs abused more than 700 women and girls around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims), credibly accuse your nation of being decadent, your nation is in trouble.

In addition, please look at these articles about the state of Washington which is far less religious than Wyoming and more liberal than Wyoming: Washington State is No. 1 in Bestiality - Seattlemet.com and Map of Shame and Washington state See also: Washington state and bestiality

Black stallion

In 2005, columnist Danny Westneat reported in the Seattle Times:

Which brings me back to sex with horses. The story last summer about the man who died from a perforated colon while having sex with a horse in Enumclaw was by far the year's most read article.

What's more, four more of the year's 20 most clicked-upon local news stories were about the same horse-sex incident. We don't publish our Web-traffic numbers, but take it from me — the total readership on these stories was huge.

So much so, a case can be made that the articles on horse sex are the most widely read material this paper has published in its 109-year history.

I don't know whether to ignore this alarming factoid or to embrace it.[9]

Once again, a bestiality news story sells more papers than a pecan pie brownie recipe on the front page of a Wyoming newspaper.

Next, please read this 2017 Metro article published concerning bestiality parties in the UK: The dark truth about bestiality parties.

Mercian, can you show me that Wyoming citizens have recently had a problem with bestiality parties in their state? If not, consider taking your own advice about cleaning up one's own backyard (See: Bestiality and Britain).

In secular Europe, various countries recently passed anti-bestiality laws due to a rise in bestiality in their countries (see: Atheism and bestiality and Bestiality and various geographic areas).

Also, while I am certainly not against passing anti-bestiality laws, passing legislation against committing various acts is not a panacea. People do engage in illegal behavior. Societies addressing the root causes of bad behavior can also be very useful.

Mercian, at your wiki, I dare you to create a well-sourced article on "Evangelical Christianity and bestiality" showing that evangelical Christians have a notable problem with engaging in bestiality. You can't do it. On the other hand, the nonreligious/irreligious have had a problem with engaging in bestiality recently (see: Atheism and bestiality and Bestiality and various geographic areas).

British tourist arrested on bestiality farm in Washington state

Authorities arrested Douglas Spinks and a British tourist in a bestiality farm raid. Police found dogs, horses and mice. See also: Washington state and bestiality

See also: Washington state and bestiality

On April 17, 2011, the Examiner ran a story entitled Bestiality farm raided in Washington state, Douglas Spink arrested which declared:

Douglas Spink, 39, had been arrested in 2005 for smuggling cocaine and was on supervised release after serving three years for his crime. Under the conditions of Douglas Spink’s release, he must adhere to all local, state, and federal laws for five years. Now authorities believe that Spink violated the terms of that release by providing animals for sex acts on an alleged bestiality farm. It has also been suggested that there is a mutual connection between Douglas Spink and Kenneth Pinyan. Pinyan was a Gig Harbor, Washington man who died after engaging in sexual acts with a horse. The case drew national attention and became known as the “Enumclaw horse sex case.”...

On Wednesday, April 14, 2010 authorities raided Douglas Spink’s animal farm and arrested Spinks and a tourist, Stephen Clarke from Peterborough, England. Authorities described some of the evidence found at the scene as ‘bizarre.’ The raid was conducted by the Whatcom County Sheriff’s Office in assistance with the U.S. Probation Department, U.S. Marshals Office, and the FBI. Reports state that authorities seized dogs, horses, and mice. There were reportedly thousands of images of bestiality and child pornography found on the property as well.[10]

The Huffington Post reported:

When agents searched Spink's home, they found a video of a man sexually abusing dogs -- and that man, Clarke, was still on the property, wearing the same clothes as in the video, Elfo said. He was charged with animal cruelty and made an initial appearance in Whatcom County Superior Court on Thursday.[11]

Summary comments to Mercian

"Invincibility lies in the defense; the possibility of victory in the attack." - Sun Tzu

Mercian, the atheist side of the aisle of the atheism/agnosticism vs. Christianity cultural war is utterly defenseless on the bestiality front in terms of recent behavior. Admit this and you may have less cognitive dissonance. See: Atheism and bestiality

I hope this helps clarify things for you. And as much as I hate to say it, once again, I declare victory. :) And it wasn't due to my debating prowess, but rather due to the weakness/futility of your arguments and the weakness of atheist/agnostic ideology.

Mercian, declare unconditional surrender on the Atheism/agnosticism vs. Christianity bestiality front in terms of ill behavior of the respective sides in recent history. Your side utterly lost this battle and the sooner you admit this, the better off you will be. Trying to obtain the moral high ground on this issue is an exercise in futility despite how hard you may try. I declare a glorious victory on behalf of all Christendom! :)

Take the advice of a fellow Brit: "This chapter discusses the second principle of Sun Tzu’s The Art of War and its application in military situations. The avoid strength, strike weakness principle flows directly from the first principle of win all without fighting. If win all without fighting is the nation’s ultimate goal, then avoid strength, attack weakness is the key to achieving it. Attacking the opponent’s weak points is a much more effective and efficient use of the nation’s resources; it shortens the road to victory and increases the value of the victory." - oxfordscholarship.com[12]

Again, give up your notion of capturing the moral high ground for Western atheists/agnostics on the bestiality issue. The atheists/agnostics will forever be at the bottom of the hill and will never be at the top of the hill when it comes to this issue.

Mercian does not take up my challenge

I challenged the British, agnostic Mercian to create a well-sourced article on "Evangelical Christianity and bestiality" showing ill behavior on the part of evangelical Christians. Of course, he cannot do it and doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to admit this matter.

Both theists and atheists frequently accuse agnostics of being cowardly, due to their wishy-washy rejection of God.[13] Studs Terkel, a self-described agnostic, jokingly referred to the frequent charge of agnostics being called cowardly, "You happen to be talking to an agnostic. You know what an agnostic is? A cowardly atheist".[14] See also: Atheism and cowardice

Other essays relating to British atheists

Conservapedia is proven right again concerning British/UK decline

See also: United Kingdom's road repair crisis

Even the British New Statesman admits that the UK pothole crisis is a sign of national decline.

A message to Mercian and other British agnostics/atheists/evolutionists: Britannia is not ruling the waves

On January 19, 2019, The Sun reported: Migrants are STILL crossing English Channel under cover of darkness despite Royal Navy clippers scrambled to stop them.[15]

British atheists and Darwinists, what's happening? Why isn't British naval technology, British navy personnel and British Army land forces sufficient enough to stop migrants?

"Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!" - Lyrics of Rule Britannia

Commentary concerning 3 classic British songs

There you have it. Three of the most classic British songs all make reference to God. If only Britain hadn't embraced Darwinism/godlessness, perhaps it would not be in such steep decline at this time.

The thrill of Christian victory and the agony of agnostic/atheist defeat

See: The thrill of Christian victory and the agony of atheist defeat

Christian children reading Conservapedia's Decline of the atheist movement article? The thrill of Christian victory and the agony of atheist defeat!

Numerous atheists have declared that the "atheist movement is dead" or that it is dying.[16] See also: Morale of the atheist movement

But what about agnostics? Conservapedia's agnosticism statistics article declares: "In 2015, Pew Research indicated in their report The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050 that agnostics and atheists 'will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.'"[17]



Have you read Conservapedia's Future of Christianity and Growth of evangelical Christianity articles?

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Notes

  1. UK among most sceptical in world about religion, The Telegraph, 2014
  2. Nearly 50% are of no religion – but has UK hit ‘peak secular’?, The Guardian, 2017
  3. "What is Wyoming known for, Quora.com
  4. 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There
  5. 30 Things You Need To Know About Wyoming Before You Move There
  6. Wyoming restaurant's pecan pie brownie is love at first bite
  7. Christopher Hitchens: Despite Cancer, I'd Drink & Smoke Again
  8. Muslims 'right about decadent UK'
  9. Horse sex story was online hit by Danny Westneat, Seattle Times - December 30, 2005
  10. Bestiality farm raided in Washington state, Douglas Spink arrested April 17, 2011, Examiner - Charisse Van Horn, US Headlines Examiner
  11. Douglas Spink Arrested In BESTIALITY Case: Mice In Vaseline, Dogs, Horses Found At Exitpoint Stallions Limitee
  12. Avoid Strength, Attack Weakness, oxfordscholarship.com
  13. Studs Terkel, a self-described agnostic, jokingly referred to the frequent charge of agnostics being called cowardly, "You happen to be talking to an agnostic. You know what an agnostic is? A cowardly atheist".[1]
  14. Interview:Studs Terkel, PBS
  15. Migrants are STILL crossing English Channel under cover of darkness despite Royal Navy clippers scrambled to stop them, The Sun, January 19, 2019
  16. The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050, Pew Research Forum