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Jump to: navigation, search is a bot-moderated usenet group with a focus on the creation-evolution debate. Creators of articles do not necessarily have scientific credentials, nor is their work peer reviewed. It is used by promoters of the theory of evolution to advocate an evolutionary viewpoint.

The Talk.Origins charter [1] says that moderation will be used to block certain cross-posted messages. The justification for this policy was that readers of other newsgroups may not want to read evolution-related messages. The charter says that the moderation will cease after six months, unless there is a public vote to maintain the moderation. Contrary to this provision, the moderation has continued for over ten years with no vote. The moderation continues because the evolutionists in the group want to maintain the ability to block messages, although they say on their own page it is to prevent "excessive cross-posting."[2] They also say "the Talk.Origins Archive exists to provide mainstream scientific responses to the frequently asked questions and frequently rebutted assertions that appear in"

Talk.Origins Archive

See also: TalkOrigins Archive

Many of the more popular contributors and their post have been archived at a separate site called TalkOrigins Archive. This site contains poor responses to many of the arguments used by creationists.

Although creationists never considered the TalkOrigins Archive to be an authoritative source and the scientists at the major creationist organizations ignored the website, it used to be cited often in online debates by evolutionists. However, recently the website has lost a significant amount of its web traffic.[3][4]

Commenting on the website's loss of web traffic, a supporter of Creation Ministries International's Question evolution! campaign quipped:

Stored under the right conditions, wine tastes better with the passage of time. Apparently, evolutionary speculation and evolutionary propaganda do not age well in the information age.[5]

Internet atheism and internet evolutionism have experienced significant declines in web visitors in recent years.[6] In addition, global atheism and agnosticism are losing adherents at present while global Christianity and biblical creationism are experiencing significant growth.

Creators of Talk.Origin archive articles did not necessarily have scientific credentials, nor was their work peer reviewed. It is used by promoters of evolutionary pseudoscience to advocate their antiquated religion. Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, “Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”[7]

Web traffic of Talk.orgins Archive

From January 2015 to December 2019, saw a steep loss of Google referral traffic according to the online visibility and marketing analytics company SEMrush (Google traffic is commonly called organic traffic by web marketing professionals).

According to Google, "To give you the most useful information, Search algorithms look at many factors, including the words of your query, relevance and usability of pages, expertise of sources... To help ensure Search algorithms meet high standards of relevance and quality, we have a rigorous process that involves both live tests and thousands of trained external Search Quality Raters from around the world."[8]

Compete: TalkOrigins web traffic from 7/2011 to 7/2012

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Criticisms of Talk Origins Archive

Creationists have a number of criticisms of the archive and a number of them can be found at the True.Origin Archive.[9] CreationWiki has a large amount of material asserting that the Archive material is errant.[10]

See also

Websites opposing TalkOrigins and other criticisms of Talk.Origins

External links


  3. TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring
  4. Did an attempt to revive EvoWiki's web traffic fail? Is Google Panda mauling EvoWiki, Talk.Origins and atheist websites?
  5. TalkOrigins: Talk is cheap and evolutionist propaganda is stale and boring
  6. Decline of internet atheism and evolutionism articles
  7. 15 questions for evolutionists
  8. How Search algorithms work