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Disability

2008-11-19T04:59:57Z

Absentismens:

The strict meaning of '''disability''' is the condition of a person who does not have the typical abilities of a healthy person.

''Disability'' is a noun. Its root is ''ability''. The ''dis-'' prefix means lack of.
[[Disabled|''Disabled'']] is an adjective that means impaired or damaged.

There are many types of disability both physical, mental or developmental, and a wide range of the amount of the disability. Some loss of ability is expected with age and is considered normal.
A disability may occur due to illness or injury. Some may be temporary, while some may lead to a permanent condition.

The term ''disabled'' sometimes is used in a pejorative sense{{fact}} , and terms like ''differently-abled'' have come into existence. Some groups of disabled, such as the deaf, do not regard themselves as disabled and have developed a culture where hearing is considered unwanted{{fact}}.

==References==
* http://www.thefreedictionary.com

==External Links==
* [http://www.disabilityinfo.gov/digov-public/public/DisplayPage.do?parentFolderId=500| United States - information on disability]

User talk:DeanS

2008-11-17T20:34:26Z

Absentismens: /* Funny Jeopardy Question */

Just tell me how could we protect better the Mormon articles? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 12:31, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

:What do you mean by "protect better" Joaquín? This is a wiki and we try to avoid protecting the articles. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:23, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

: OK, I will do my best to patroll them. At present I am out of home. Just keep doing your wonderfull work. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 13:31, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

::Joaquín, Thanks for Patrolling the articles and dealing with JimmyP. As I mentioned on the church talk page, he needs to explain in detail why he has a problem with that link. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:27, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

:: I am out of town. I will be back untill August 6th. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 14:16, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

::: Good to hear from you Joaquín. I hope you have a great vacation! --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 17:26, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Hi DeanS, what a great article 'Breaking Speaker Pelosi's News Blackout'. I love the strategy, proud of my GOP 'ers, it is so patriotic!--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 00:50, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks Jpatt! Now if only President Bush would make Congress come back in session to deal with this issue. They don't deserve a five-week vacation. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 02:11, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

== Thanks, Bro! ==

I thought your guys are gonna ignore me again, but Nah, I got wrong ideas. Thank you, May the Lord bless you! [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&oldid=497248] I wish I was brave enough to do that! But only I'm could is to support them to do so, "sigh".--[[User:TagoPagdaluhong|TagoPagdaluhong]] 11:36, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

:Your welcome Tago. I think the pic is a nice addition as well. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 11:39, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

::I must say, that picture is much better view then the source had.--[[User:TagoPagdaluhong|TagoPagdaluhong]] 11:50, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

:::I agree. I followed the pic to its source and was rewarded with this version. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 11:58, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

== Conservapedia:Featured articles. ==

Your opinion is needed in: [[Holy Days]], [[Architecture]], [[Great Flood]] and [[Deconstruction]].
--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 13:39, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

:Done. Thanks for the reminder. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 14:03, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

:: Thank you! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 15:24, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

==Welcome==

Thanks for the welcome! This website is actually a god-send, a perfect oppurtunity to actually make use of my summer holidays. Hey by the way, I was wondering what CP's policy on science articles are, as this will probably be the aspect I'll be contributing to quite a lot. Thanks again- [[User:Jl2000|Jl2000]]

:Just start editing and you'll find out soon enough ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 15:21, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

:I researched this person's edits and found much of the material to be false. There was also information on that other site which made it very clear that he was just another of their parodists. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 15:58, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

::Interesting. They're supposed to be on a boycott of CP right now. ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:29, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

==Christian solidarity==

Hi, Dean. I like your [[:Image:Beijing arrests.jpg]] but I couldn't edit the caption. Can you crop the image and put the caption in the image link? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:30, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

:Hi Ed. How about this cropped image? The caption is in the image info. [[:Image:Beijing arrests2.jpg]] --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:24, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

== Thanks and a request or two. ==

Thanks for pointing me at that list of admins. Two things - [[Conservapedia:User rights]] is full of broken links but is locked - can you or someone else fix these? Also can you unlock [[Rape]] for me as well - the current wording includes the phrase "seducing a child" - as seduction as a concept can suggest an element of consent I'd like to rephrase the article. Thanks in advance. [[User:DefenderofTrue|DefenderofTrue]] 21:39, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

==Pre-screening of News stories==

Just curious - why the "No article prescreening" policy, and why delete what I thought were constructive comments, instead of responding to them on the page? --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 20:44, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

:The reason there will be no article pre-screening by you (or other liberals) is because myself or another admin will be prescreening the articles.

:I deleted your comments because those project pages are only for project members, and I'm not going to have nonmembers influencing the project. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 20:58, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

::Okay, all that makes sense, but if you read my post, I wasn't suggesting that I pre-screen, because I know non-conservatives like me aren't welcome on the sub-project. I had the sense that there was no pre-screening by anyone, and your edit-comment seemed to bear that out. Thanks for clarifying.

::Also, can I ask a blunt but serious question? Do you ever find that the labels of "liberal" and "conservative" are taken wayyy too seriously here, resulting in an all-or-none, black-and-white division between the two perspectives? I never post here to make trouble, only to offer a viewpoint that's usually more nuanced than the black-hat/white-hat exchanges that often take place. I hate labels myself, because in my case I'm libertarian on most social issues, conservative on fiscal ones, and still trying to figure out the spiritual - "Unitarian/Universalist" is probably closer than "Agnostic", but neither one is a strong enough fit to apply to myself.

::So if you want to create sub-projects for the true-believers only, go for it. I've just observed that while this is Conservapedia and not Neutralapedia, the "feel" of the place has become more polarized and combative, with less tolerance for dissent or even respectful disagreement, and a corresponding drop in the number and quality of contributors.

::As I said though, good luck with the news project, and I'll post my comments on the Main:Talk page. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 21:17, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

:::Dinsdale, You said, "I wasn't suggesting that I pre-screen". What is this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Wikiproject:News&diff=prev&oldid=502069 "... I'd be glad to participate in article screening..."]

:::No, I don't find the labels are taken ''too'' seriously here. I have a problem with liberals and their way of thinking. Liberal viewpoints are wrong.

:::I find very little of the "respectful disagreement" from liberals; mostly I see great examples of [[Liberal Style]], vandalism, parody, troublemaking, obscenity, etc.

:::Your comments here are respectful; therefore I have responded in kind. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 21:39, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

::::Thanks for the courteous response. As for my statement on volunteering, the ''complete'' statement was "I'd be glad to participate in article screening but I don't qualify to be on this sub-project." Hey, I'd love night-editing rights, too, but I'm about as qualified to get that, too ;-) --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 22:05, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

:::::LOL --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 22:21, 20 August 2008 (EDT)
==Didn't mean to step on toes==
I'm just a huge fan of Cherone's and his ability to not alienate people when discussing Christianity and why abortion is wrong. So, I'd rather stick his "line in the sand" in there, if you don't mind. He has stated that anyone who really wants to be taken seriously in this debate at least needs to recognize that a woman has a right to live, if / when a baby directly threatens that. It's a position, being a woman wanting children, I happen to share. :-) If you really think it's liberal bias, let me know or a third party know, and we can "let the majority vote" (as it were).--[[User:MHayes|MHayes]] 22:43, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

: Btw, I DO mind. There is NO majority vote when an administrator removes liberal bias. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 22:59, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

::I guess I don't understand what "liberal bias" is in this case, then. Are you asserting that Cherone is a liberal? I really have no idea his political preference, just what he has said about abortion. --[[User:MHayes|MHayes]] 23:01, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

:::No, I'm not saying that Cherone is a liberal. See my comments at [[Talk:Extreme]] --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 23:16, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

==Wikinews==
DeanS, Wikinews, my spelling error on the Ayers story. Unrepentent should be unrepentant.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 10:31, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

Could you add int link for Stephanie Tubbs Jones? Tanks in advance!--[[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:43, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks Jp. This mistake has been [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&curid=66589&diff=502572&oldid=502384 corrected].

:The wikilink was added [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&curid=66589&diff=502578&oldid=502572 here]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:53, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

==Thank you!==
For stepping in. Whoever that person was, he was doing bad things to my blood pressure :) --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''Hajimemashite!'']] 10:07, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

:You're welcome Jessica. He was an imposter and was dealt with accordingly. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 10:10, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

I got really annoyed... --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 10:32, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

:No wonder you were annoyed. I'm sorry this happened to you. We have enemies of this site, and they don't care who gets hurt or how much damage/disruption they cause. This incident reminds me of homicide bombers. All they care about is themselves and how much damage they can cause.

:Be on the alert for imposters. You can check their contributions like [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/JasonH this]. JasonH's contribs started today. Also JasonH created his account [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=JasonH today]. Since we know [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Jinxmchue the real Jinxmchue] has been editing for a while, that would also be a clue that JasonH was an imposter. Finally, he used this obvious deceitful <nowiki>[[User:JasonH|Jinxmchue]]</nowiki> [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DiEb&diff=prev&oldid=503259 signature.] --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 10:59, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

==Thank You for the Unblock==

I appreciate being restored given that my comments aren't mainstream here, and I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 19:52, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

:Phillip explained why I was wrong, and I wanted to fix my mistake. Even though I don't agree with your views, I won't block you for expressing them. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 19:58, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

== Wikinews Project ==

Mr. DeanS,

Why exactly do you think I'm a liberal? I've tried to make it clear that I am anything but.

--[[User:JosephG|JosephG]] 23:52, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

:Joseph, I don't think you're a liberal. I thought I explained the reason clearly in the email. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 00:36, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

I see you have had great success with wanted pages via Wikinews. Since you have run out of new topics, I thought to suggest adding some words from [[Special:Wantedpages]]. Just to keep the pac motivated.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:43, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:Jp, even though that is an interesting suggestion, I prefer to link to items on the news section; since this is a news project. If you want to suggest items, look at the news articles and see where the wikilinks are missing. Sometimes it's because the poster didn't bother to use existing wikilinks; other times it's because the article hasn't been created yet. It's quite challenging to go through the news articles and find these wikilinks. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:14, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:: No problem. Before I submit a news item, I wikilink almost every word then use the preview to see which is or isn't listed. If you like, I can immediately add words that don't appear to the wanted section. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 16:45, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:::That would be great! If you could add missing wikilinks for the other suggestions, that would be even better. ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:51, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:Jp, I have reconsidered your idea to use the Conservapedia wanted articles. Just using the news wikilinks was okay, but including the general wanted articles is even better. Plus these articles also add to their count. If you want to add articles, add them to the bottom of the [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted_page#Conservapedia_wanted_articles|Conservapedia wanted articles]] section. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 09:53, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

:: Response to 'add missing wikilinks for the other suggestions', I would but do not have access to mainpage:right. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:25, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

:::What I mean is that you can add the missing wikilinks ''before'' the suggestion is posted.
:::Thanks for continuing to add new wanted articles.
:::What do you think about the section on revising the news postings? --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:32, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

::::I am fine with adding wikilinks before postings, even if they do not get posted.
::::My pleasure to help CP
::::Sounds interesting but I am not sure I understand. Do you mean, create a short essay/summary, then link back? -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:39, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

:::::Once you add the revised headline summary, I will replace my headline with your revised headline on the Main Page. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:46, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Hey DeanS, what is your policy if we created a news item that wasn't posted. But then the item was created and posted by a SysOp? Do I still get credit? --'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 20:29, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

:I believe you should still get the credit. Add a comment below your suggestion and you will get the credit. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 21:45, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

== Outdated news item ==

The main page has a news item that says: "According to RealClearPolitics, for the first time in the 2008 Presidential race, John McCain overtakes Barack Obama in the Electoral College poll 274 to 264." You may want to remove that from the main page since it is no longer accurate, and the link provided leads to a page showing Obama leading McCain 273 to 265 (that is what is how right now, anyway). [[User:KimEide|KimEide]] 13:54, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

:Done. Thanks for the alert. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 14:22, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

== IP's ban ==

(Not sure if this is proper procedure, but I'm still fairly new).

I disagree with your ban of Impm; there was no 'edit war' that could be perceived based on his recent (see five minutes ago) edits of the Barack Obama article. [[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 14:45, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

:Jirby, MYOB or ''you'' will be blocked. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 14:50, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

== Wow, they're really obsessed with me ==

How many people have created accounts referencing me? Quite a few, it seems. At least 3, to my recollection, including today's "Lowjinx." [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:02, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

:They're obsessed alright; with you, all of the Conservapedia sysops and Conservapedia itself. They are also obsessed with vandalism, parody, deceit, and every other element of the [[Liberal Style]].

:I prefer to call them "possessed". They are possessed of a lying and evil spirit. They're sowing wickedness, and will reap wickedness at the judgment day.
--[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:01, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

::A little less [[Wikipedia:Avoid personal remarks|talk]], please. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 07:28, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

==Good, steady work==

Dean, thank you for your longstanding, careful attention to the main page. No one keeps up with current events as well as you do.

I also like your "wiki gnome" work, like [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Indian-American&curid=72030&diff=506590&oldid=506571 this minor copy edit]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 07:29, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

:You're welcome Ed. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 10:53, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

==False quotes in News story on Obama speech==

I wasn't sure if you saw my comments about the false statements in the headline about the Obama speech. Do you consider the headline correct in it's current form? --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 13:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

:Yes, I read your comments. I would like Chippeterson to respond to you and provide a link for reference. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:59, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

::Understandable, but here's a [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us/politics/28text-obama.html link] to the transcript of the speech, which clearly shows the headline is false and misleading. Chippeterson should respond, but only a sysop has the ability to edit news postings on the main page, and as the link shows, it's wrong. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:10, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

:::Bear in mind that ''The New York Times'' is the leading liberal news source, so their "factual" claims must often be given close scrutiny. They have even misreported science news, e.g., publishing the assertion about open water at the North Pole (which was later shown to be historically inaccurate) just in time to influence public policy on [[global warming]].

:::Although liberals refer to the NY Times as the "newspaper of record", conservatives don't give it as much credence. (They have the legal write to print opinion as fact, you know; see [[First Amendment]].) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:36, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

:It's not '''"the"''' transcript (as in the only one possible); you left out "as recorded by CQ Transcriptions". Part of the strategy of liberal news media is to pick their sources carefully to give the impression they want. If you do a little research, you can find where a Boston Globe editor declared this quite openly. Would you like that as a [[writing assignment]]? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:40, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

== Republican Convention Headline ==

Last phrase should read "Democratic Vice Presidential nominee", not "Democrat Vice Presidential nominee." Thanks --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:40, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

:Fixed. Thanks for the correction. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:21, 3 September 2008 (EDT)

== RIP Bill Melendez ==

Thanks for that news, sad as it is. An unsung hero and icon of American culture whose legacy will live forever in our hearts. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:24, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks Jinx. The article was submitted by Benp and I just posted it. Can you start an article for [[Bill Melendez]]? --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 00:29, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

::I'll have to see how soon I can get to it. Going to bed now. Have some yard work to do in the morning and work work from the afternoon through tomorrow morning. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 01:21, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

:::No problem Jinx. Thanks for your contributions. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:31, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

==Sysop Q==
How does one become a sysop? I've only been here a few days. [[User:JY23|JY23]]

:See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Administrators Conservapedia:Administrators/Promotion]. Sysops are selected as needed from the best of the best contributors, there is no popularity contest to determine promotion. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:17, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

== Re: New article request process ==

Didn't know about the process ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Wikiproject%3ANews%2FWanted_page&diff=511110&oldid=511109]) Sorry, [[User:Nerd|Nerd]] 16:19, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

:That's fine. I usually just do it myself, and after you tried to do it, I realized I needed to write a process. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:32, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

::Cool. [[User:Nerd|Nerd]] 16:37, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

==Pictures==
DeanS, could you upload these photo's for me for the [[John McCain]] and [[Joe Biden]] articles, thanks.

http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/89ddfcef-3a43-49a6-99c4-b7f41986b56c_mn.jpeg

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/john-mccain-4.jpg [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 8 September 2008

:Here you go: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Biden_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg Biden on Meet the Press] and [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg McCain on Meet the Press]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 23:32, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

I appreciate it. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]9 September 2008
===Other Pictures===
Also DeanS, there are some articles with no pictures at all and could really use them. I was hoping you could upload these.

http://www.moderate-america.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/colin_powell-277x300.jpg

http://www.gcva.us/dpts/vote/TimKainePic.jpg

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/pix/ray_nagin_cp_8482804.jpg

http://www.fantasycongress.com/public/img/senators/graham_lindsey_SC.jpg [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 9 September 2008

:Here you go: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Colin_Powell.jpg Colin Powell], [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:TimKaine.jpg Tim Kaine], [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Ray_Nagin.jpg Ray Nagin] and [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Lindsey_Graham.jpg Lindsey Graham]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 02:52, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

:Chippeterson, I deleted the Ray Nagin photo from Conservapedia and reverted the article because it could have been an AP photo and we're not allowed to use AP photos. The cbc.ca site uses a lot of AP photos and I wasn't able to determine if this was an AP photo. I don't mind uploading pics for you, I just need you to double-check the source and ensure they're non-AP photos before I can upload in the future. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 13:42, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

I'll be more careful from now on DeanS. How about this one of Nagin from answers.com. http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/7/74/225px-Nagin2June2006.jpg [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 10 September 2008

:Chippeterson, thanks for understanding. Here's the pic for [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Ray_Nagin2.jpg Ray Nagin]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:28, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

==Betty Ford==
I just wrote an article on [[Betty Ford]] and it could use her picture. Could you upload this. Thanks. http://z.about.com/d/womenshistory/1/7/q/A/betty_ford.jpg

:Here you go: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Betty_Ford.JPG Betty Ford]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 22:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

==Night Edits==
DeanS, i think somebody left the spicket on. Can you close new user signup til daylight hours? Thanks -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 01:16, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:I noticed that too and already took care of it. Thanks for the reminder. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:25, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

::Yesterday it was turned off around 2. I thought it was just later now than it used to be. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 01:33, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:::It varies. I'm not going to go into details, but you can email Andy if you have further questions. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:36, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

::::Naw, I understand. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 01:37, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

== "Debate about news articles is not allowed on this project." ==

This makes absolutely no sense. Somebody suggests a news item on [[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions]], but comments about these ''suggestions'' have to be posted on [[Talk:Main Page]] ''before the suggestions are posted on the main page''? Talk about convoluted! Nobody would know what I'm objecting against, so I would have to preface it with "Somebody suggested a news item on this and that page, and I'll now comment on it here". But I can see that my objection had zero impact either way, so posting it again in the "proper" place won't do a thing, will it? McCain is excused for not knowing how to send a mail because he can't use a keyboard (sorta kinda). Right. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 16:28, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

:DirkB, although it doesn't make sense to you, there is a reason for this rule. I want that page to contain suggestions only. I don't want liberals debating about the suggestions. From what I've seen on the Talk:Main Page, liberals like to discuss some of the articles, other editors reply, and this goes back and forth. I don't care whether you or other liberals agree with the suggested article. You can have these endless discussions on the Talk:Main Page after it's posted, not on the suggestions page. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:45, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

::I don't think he liked your reply... [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:52, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

:::Too bad. I'm not here to please the liberals.
:::Good block, btw. You better get ready to defend the permablock from Philip, etc. ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:57, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
::::<sigh> [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:59, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

== {{User|DRamon}} ==

Do you think he should be unblocked? Perhaps I was a little harsh, seeing as he has been creating content. I took a look at his edits after he edited another user's userpage, though the user has now reverted back to Ramon's version. Earlier this issue was brought up in Schlafly's talkpage. I mainly blocked him for this [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Islam&diff=prev&oldid=517564]. The parodists have been having fun with that list. Also he had been warned before. Take a look at his edits, is he a parodist? Do you think unblock? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 01:37, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

:I do think DRamon should be unblocked and I don't see him as a parodist. If you want to warn him for editing someones user page that would be appropriate. Thanks for asking. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:46, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
::User is unblocked. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 01:54, 17 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Thanks Henry. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 02:04, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

== Inappropriate user name ==
A new user has joined with the user name : Tony Blair. could you please look into it?--[[User:Carolyn|Carolyn]] 09:05, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:He's a vandal and has already been blocked. Thanks for the alert. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 09:07, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

== Satan... Carrot Top... ==

You have to at least admit that was pretty funny. It's rare that the vandals and parodists are actually funny instead of stupid. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 15:09, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:That's why I changed the block comment. ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 15:27, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

==Wiki support==
DeanS, as a member of Wikiproject: News, I feel you have spoiled me with attentiveness and clear direction. As a member of Wikiproject: Religion, I have no such contact, no direction, no replies. It is frustrating but I can live with that. I wanted to pick your brains about site structure that I have unable to find in the help section. Category's seem to have boundaries. A rule of thumb, no more than three, correct? Multiple category's on similar topics not looked upon as correct? e.g. Catholic Church and Christianity. Sub-categories have more precedent than category tagging? -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:33, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks for the compliment, Jp. I don't have the same passion for categories and I defer an answer to those who have more interest. I would suggest you start a Wikiproject:Categories and go from there. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 15:58, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

==Fred1776==

Was it really necessary to revert that last edit by Fred1776? It was on a talk page, and was not rude in anyway. Robust, certainly, but neither rude nor insulting. "Liberalist version whatever"'s edits were vandalism: this was an opinion. It's one I happen to share and I am sure that many on this site share. Surely Aschlafly is not such a tender soul that he needs protecting from this. It might make unpleasant reading, but it's surely nicer and more decently put than a "mild" rebuke from Bugler --[[User:Toffeeman|Toffeeman]] 16:55, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:Lecturing the site owner is not appropriate, period. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:54, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

== Something's not right with that mainpage edit ==

It looks like you posted the same story twice, though I see what you meant to do. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 19:28, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:I thought about taking off the second link, but I wanted to provide twice as much fun for the liberals. I'm going to change it now. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 19:32, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

:: Just wanted to point out mispelling of 'organization' in the human rights watch story. I don't know if we should be promoting HRW. I believe their foundations are the monitoring|promotion of homosexual rights.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:55, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Organisation is correct English in the home of that tongue! As for HRW's Liberal bias - well, if even ''they'' are condemning Chavez... [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

:::Misspelling corrected. Btw, ''misspelling'' has two s's. I don't believe we're promoting HRW, just that we agree with them in this instance. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:09, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

::::As you can tell, my grammar and spelling needs much improvement. The news headline: Could the he U.S. mortgage, needs a fix'n. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:15, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

:::::Fixed. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 14:25, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Jpatt, I think you may be confusing HRW with HRC (Human Rights Campaign), which *is* an organization based on the promotion of homosexual rights. It's easy to get the two confused, which was probably the intent when they came up with the name for HRC. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 14:44, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

==Another brainless attempt to hack my account==
This time from IP 24.21.149.251. Could you do me a favour and give them a daisycutter? Thanks, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 05:32, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

:Done. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 08:30, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
::Thanks, Dean [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 08:36, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

== ChristMaster2000 ==

A user called Christmaster2000 keeps writing 'McCain = The end of the world' at the top of pages. Can you stop him?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:41, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

:Where? I don't see the changes? --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:15, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

::There was one on [[Athletics]], which I've reverted, plus a few others. Actually he seems to have been blocked already - I thought he was active because his change was still on the Athletics page.

== Thanks for unblocking me ==

Thank you. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:36, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

:Your welcome. Philip convinced me to undo your block. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 09:49, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

== Archive mainpageright ==

Since you're a regular who archives the main page, can you do so sometime soon? [[User:Jallen|Jallen]] 03:48, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

:Done. Btw, Conservative took [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&diff=prev&oldid=529716 my] [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page/Previous_Conservapedia_Breaking_News&diff=next&oldid=530094 archive] and [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&diff=next&oldid=530125 restored] it to the Main page when he added the ''Evolutionary Racism of Hitler and Darwin'' section to the bottom of [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMainpageleft&diff=530432&oldid=529771 Mainpageleft]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 08:11, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

==Berg lawsuit==
Since the claims made on the mainpage In the News headline were [http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/27-alert-contrary-to-internet-rumor-there-has-not-yet-been-a-court-ruling-on-obama-dnc-motion-to-dismiss shown to be false] four days before the headline was posted on Conservapedia, will you please remove the entry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 16:30, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:Done. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 17:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
::Thank you.--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 18:30, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
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== News- Debate ==

Shouldn't the second presidential debate be discussed in the news section? [[User:Corry|Corry]] 23:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

:Done. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 00:07, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

==Family Values==
I made a grammar burp. No such thing as won't. Also, count me in on the previous news project.--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 10:55, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:I disagree with saying "won't" is a grammar burp. "Won't" is correct. "Won't" is a contraction of "will not". [http://www.edufind.com/English/grammar/Tenses14.cfm]
:Thanks for agreeing to participate in the previous news subproject. I'm going to set up a special page for our coordination and will link to it from your talk page and the subproject. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 11:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

== Let's block registration wave ==

Dean, let's permanently block everyone registered between 11:30 and noon. I think they're fake. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:03, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:Andy, I blocked the IP 93.106.19.228 - it was the same one for all 101 accounts.
:08:57, October 11, 2008 DeanS (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 93.106.19.228 (Talk) with an expiry time of 5 years (account creation disabled) ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: 101 accts set up from 08:30, October 11, 2008 to 08:43, October 11, 2008)
:I blocked the rest of them. They're all blocked now. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 12:31, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:: Great effort. I thought the IP might be the same, such that blocking one would block all. But it didn't hurt to block the names also, in case someone tried to access it from a different IP.

:: In the future, I have an even more powerful way to delete the accounts.

:: Thanks again for your alert effort.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:34, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

== Wikinews/subproject ==
Definetely, your idea is a must. Though, explain to me about '''Suggestions for new Previous Breaking News summaries.''' Is this the same as Rewrite current headlines?--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 18:11, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:No, it's not the same. Rewriting the current headlines is for someone that wants to improve headlines on the current Main page. The ''Suggestions for new Previous Breaking News summaries'', is like the other Previous Breaking news, but the page hasn't been created yet. I want us to create those pages and link them to our Conservapedia articles and incorporate their content into the corresponding articles. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 19:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:: Once additions are made, would you suggest strikethrough font the listing?--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 20:32, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

:::Once additions are made, move the listing to this new section: [[Wikiproject:News/Previous_Breaking_News#Completed_updates_to_September_2008|Completed updates to September 2008]]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 00:42, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

::: The sheer size is overwhelming. We need an army of helpers.--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 00:34, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

::::I totally agree. Since this is a long term project, I'm hoping we can make progress while recruiting others to join our efforts. I would like to have a competition similar to the other subprojects - Wanted pages and News suggestions. Any ideas? --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 00:42, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

::::: Competition is your best bet. I can suggest members pick categories that they are fond of- like ACLU. Then their responsibility includes News additions, past and future, ACLU posts.--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 01:12, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

::::::Interesting idea. Let's say you picked the ACLU subject. Then someone else picked Barack Obama. How would the competition work? --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:19, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I just want to say that I think this is a bad idea. I realize Jpatt worked very hard on the recent additions to [[ACLU]] and I commend him for that, but I don't think the additions help the article. Since news headlines, by their nature, aren't broadly descriptive, they don't fit well in most articles. They end up being made into lists, which I don't think satisfy the "conscise" requirement of the commandments. Additionally, most of the sources for the news article are blogs or internet news sites which generally aren't up to the standards needed for regular articles. Maybe there will be times when a news headline or two is relevant to an article, but I think wholesale moving of headlines is not appropriate. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:58, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

:I am just following orders for the Wikinews/subproject. I will wait for DeanS to rule before adding any more.--'''Jpatt'''[[User:Jpatt| ]] 23:02, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

::Where are the rules? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:26, 13 October 2008 (EDT)
::Oh, I found them. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:29, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks for your efforts Jp. I'm glad you decided to wait before adding more headlines.
:I agree with a couple of HelpJazz's points. I don't think the wholesale moving of headlines is appropriate either. The idea is to use the news links as a ''reference'' to improve the article. We need to discuss the details on the corresponding previous news talk page.
:I also don't see how we can do this as a competition. We want quality instead of quantity on these edits.
:I disagree that this is a bad idea. While inserting the headlines directly into the article isn't the right approach, I believe the news links provide unique material that can improve the article.
:I also disagree with the notion we shouldn't use blogs or internet news sites as resources. The mainstream media doesn't provide much material we can use because of their liberal bias. Conservative truth is found in these blogs and we will continue to use these in our articles and news items.
:In summary, I think we need to be careful how we use these news items. If done in the proper way, these links can provide valuable reference material for our articles. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:32, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

==FYI==
Hello Dean. As a Mormon, I feel you should know that User Conservative has been promoting the blogs of a man named Mariano Grinbank who writes such blogs as [[Atheism is Dead]], [[Richard Dawkins : Scientist or Activist?]], [[Atheism Dissected]] and others (I say “promoting” because these blogs would not warrant encyclopedia entries on their own; they are hosted by popular free blog sites and have little traffic). There is nothing wrong with this, however the same Mariano is a dedicated anti-Mormon who writes a blog [http://www.lifeanddoctrinemormonism.blogspot.com/ attacking Mormonism], calling it “offensive religion”, and saying “Mormonism has sought to discredit Christianity”, and “everything that Mormonism does, everything it teaches, everything it stands for is an offense against Christianity.” I don’t think this is the sort of character Conservapedia should be promoting. [[User:SamJ|SamJ]] 09:28, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

:Thanks for the info. I have no problem with Conservative promoting the blogs against Atheism and Richard Dawkins. I'm also aware that there are several anti-Mormons on this site. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 09:36, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

::My concern isn't about the anti-atheism blogs, which I'm sure are fine for this site, but the fact that these links prominently link to the same writer's anti-Mormon blog, which Conservapedia is therefore indirectly promoting. A reader who finds one of these blogs through Conservapedia and finds it convincing may easily look at the other links to the other blogs and be led to a screed condemning Mormonism. That is my concern, but if you don't object then that's fine. I just felt you should be informed. [[User:SamJ|SamJ]] 09:51, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

:::Your objection is noted. I hope you will make some positive contributions to Conservapedia. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 09:57, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

== My talk page ==

According to [[Conservapedia:Guidelines]] I am in control of my own talk page. I have no intention of getting embroiled in an edit war here, but why is this not being respected? [[User:Corry|Corry]] 18:18, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

:See [[Conservapedia:Commandments]] # 5. Advertisements are prohibited. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:32, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

== Username change ==

I apologize for using an inappropriate username. I did not see a statement of Conservapedia's username policy on the account creation page. May I suggest that you folks add one there? It might prevent misunderstandings and hard feelings in the future. —[[User:AshleyS|Asphalt P . Stanky]]

:You should have seen the following when you signed up the first time:
:"Note: Offensive user names will result in that user name being blocked and perhaps the IP address being blocked. Frivolous user names, names of prominent living persons, and user names consisting of, for example, all capital letters or all the same character, may also result in that user name being blocked. User names based on your real name or initials are preferred."
:That policy seems clear to me. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 16:55, 11 November 2008 (EST)

==The M&M factor==

Thanks for the quick revert. I was just about to ban and revert, but you beat me to it. We should write more about the similarities between LDS and UC. Tithing is 10-30%, isn't it? And our youth now do a 1 or 2 year mission before college. I call it learning from our elders. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 07:22, 14 November 2008 (EST)

:Tithing is 10%. The missions are 2 years for young men and 1.5 years for young women. Also, some senior couples go on missions for 1.5 years. Some men go to college for a year before serving their mission, since the minimum age is 19 years old for the men. The male missionaries are called "Elders", because they must be ordained as Elders in the Melchizedek priesthood before they serve a mission. Women must be 21 before they can serve a mission, and if they aren't married by then, they are eligible to serve a mission. [http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/membership-in-christ-s-church/missionary-work Mormon.org - Missionary Work] --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 08:03, 14 November 2008 (EST)

== Funny Jeopardy Question ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoMspJqqVcA&feature=related
A garden tool - but also means sexual immoral --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 13:34, 14 November 2008 (EST)

== Revert of TK's block ==
I take it by [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3ATK&year=&month=-1 your un-block reason here] that you are now going to review bugler and all other blocks by non-sysops to ensure compliance with this unwritten policy of only blocking for vandalism? [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 15:34, 17 November 2008 (EST)

Boy George

2008-08-01T17:10:38Z

Absentismens: Undo revision 494643 by Jinxmchue (Talk)Does that change the fact that this is blatant plagarism?

'''George Alan O'Dowd''' (b. 14 June 1961 [[London]]) is a [[British]] [[singer]] and [[Disc Jockey|D.J.]], who uses the stage name '''Boy George.'''

== External Links ==
[http://web.swedevice.com/sistergeorge/main/latestnews.asp Official website]

[[Category: Musicians]]

User talk:TomMoore/Petition Regarding Ideological Articles

2008-06-21T00:32:19Z

Absentismens: /* Differing opinions */

==TomMoore was banned for 6 months==
I hope we can still submit this to Aschlafly though. Any thoughts? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User:FernoKlump/petition|Look at this petition!]] 21:39, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
:It weakens our case, but yeah why not? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 00:22, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
==Differing opinions==
#-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]] [[User:Deborah|Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|(contributions)]] [[User_talk:Deborah|(talk)]] 18:32, 18 June 2008 (EDT) I think only Liberal quotient should be moved to Conservapedia: some articles may sound more encyclopedic if renamed but no changes should be done to the majority of articles
#This site is a meritocracy and the editors who created those articles have far more merit than you have displayed, TomMoore. This is not a mobocracy and taking an asinine vote to try to determine policy is pointless. [[User:BryonRichards|BryonRichards]] 00:12, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
:You sir are in all likelihood a sock of a user of "the other site" as they are the chief users of the term "Mobocracy" to describe a wiki's management, please stop trolling conservapedia. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 20:32, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

User talk:DanH

2008-03-06T05:26:04Z

Absentismens: /* Jazz values */

[[Image:Banhammer2.jpg|thumb|600px|left|'''DanH''' is hereby awarded the prestigious & coveted '''Banhammer''' barnstar for tireless vigilance against fascists, liberals, vandals & trolls.]]

'''Archives:'''

[[User talk:MountainDew]]

[[User talk:DanHarchive1]]

[[User talk:DanHarchive2]]

[[User talk:DanHarchive3]]

==Blocked User NW==

Sorry about that, I didn't know he was blocked yet. [[User:Lukecorlando|Lukecorlando]] 23:21, 21 October 2007 (EDT)

==Evidence of evolution==
What's with the moving my friend? It's intended to be an encyclopedic article about the subject, not an personal essay of some sort. [[User:Honestyandtruth|Honestyandtruth]] 00:00, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

== I have sent you an important email about communists and the gay conspiracy! ==

I sent one also to Rob. --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 01:11, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

== Funny ==

I enjoyed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:ChavezFan&diff=324719&oldid=324649 this], and thought I'd let you know. [[User:GregLarson | Greg]] 16:09, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

==Endorse block==
I endorse to block on [[User:Maestro]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Maestro contribs]; we may have to review all these edits and consider other actions. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:32, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Hey, thanks for unblocking me. Never thought I'd say this to a Jayhawker, but you're okay. After that whupping your football team dished out last week, you might even get this Mizzou grad to cheer for KU. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 23:50, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Anything to keep my mind of the Rams. Jeez...BTW, any chance on getting my user page unblocked when my probation expires? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 08:55, 8 November 2007 (EST)

:If he is on probation he should have the opportunity to prove his quality having his talk page open to work. Is it truth? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 15:37, 8 November 2007 (EST)

*Joaquin, whenever any editor is restored, their pages should be unlocked and/or re-created. If that does not happen, it is usually just a mistake. --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 10:08, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Wes Clarke. ==

My bad on the spelling. Sorry. [[User:Dewey|Dewey]] 21:50, 4 November 2007 (EST)

==[[User:Oi]]==

What, no warning? I thought you took the pledge. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:46, 7 November 2007 (EST)

:All the pledge says is I won't block for no reason. :) Also, I think "Oi" is a term associated with skinhead culture. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 17:47, 7 November 2007 (EST)

::Jolly good. And here's an early Christmas present for you: [[Image:Dewtree.jpg|right|thumb|For Christmas time]] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 18:00, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Thank you! That should last me through the season. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 18:06, 7 November 2007 (EST)

*Ed is like Father Christmas! How magical...a tree made from Mountain Dew cans! :P --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 18:18, 7 November 2007 (EST)
==Contest==
Hey Dan! So one of the first questions for our team is what our team name should be. If you have any ideas just get word out to TK, thanks! (Oh, and remember: we're using a Machiavellian policy towards this contest, we must win - no matter what. lol, good luck!)--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]]23:59, 9 November 2007 (EST)

==Vandal==

Block this vandal please, thanks. [[User:Lukecorlando|Luke]]

== Go, go, go ==

42 +++++++++++++++++ a lot more... gooooooooo --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 01:29, 13 November 2007 (EST)

== Unblock Article ==

Hi Dan, could you please unblock [[Fascism]]? Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 15:53, 13 November 2007 (EST)

== Kentucky ==

Hi, Dan, I just wanted to leave you a note about your edit to [[Kentucky]]. While Governor Fletcher lost the recent election, he still is governor. I have re-listed him as such, as his term does not end until next month. Thanks, [[User:GregLarson | Greg]] 21:50, 13 November 2007 (EST)

:That sounds accurate. We just have to remember to change it on December 11! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:50, 13 November 2007 (EST)

::Will do! [[User:GregLarson | Greg]] 21:50, 13 November 2007 (EST)

:::Just thought I'd remind you of the Governor's expiration of term tomorrow, as I do not expect to be on Conservapedia much in the coming weeks. [[User:GregLarson | Greg]] 20:25, 10 December 2007 (EST)

== See also ==

I am sorry, but I '''do not''' agree in what you are doing in Salma and Elvis. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 16:24, 19 November 2007 (EST)

:Thank you for your reply. Salmas' links were discussed with TK at it's time. Elvis' are quite related as they send you to rock music. But, if you think it is better to change them let me know and I will find some ones more appropriated. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 08:59, 20 November 2007 (EST)

:*Joaquín, the issue was discussed with Mr.Schlafly, and the "See Also" should be as specific as possible. I think you would agree that "Rock Music" is breathtakingly broad, eh? Perhaps you could make sure they are more specific? Thank you for your patience, my friend! --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 11:22, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::OK. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 18:33, 20 November 2007 (EST)

==Westboro Baptist Church==
Dan, Do you mind if we unlock [[Westboro Baptist Church]] to allow for adding some content? Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 12:46, 24 November 2007 (EST)

:Fine with me! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 12:48, 24 November 2007 (EST)

==MU vs. KU==

That's gotta hurt. Were you there? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 02:01, 25 November 2007 (EST)

:Yep. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 02:14, 25 November 2007 (EST)

== MASS REMOVAL??? ==

Where exactly did I "mass remove" information as you allege on my page? All I have done has been to copyedit and work on clarity and presentation. [[User:PaulH|PaulH]] 00:27, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Check the edit history - that was someone else - the paragraph in question was not there when I edited. [[User:PaulH|PaulH]] 00:29, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== Page Move ==

Dan, could you please move [[Meningoenephalitis]] to [[Meningoencephalitis]]? The reference used to find the definition has a mispelling (it's missing a "c"). Thanks [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:41, 9 December 2007 (EST)
:Thanks. BTW your recent block comment was hilarious. Chuck Norris can slam a revolving door, you know. And divide by 0. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:51, 9 December 2007 (EST)

==Vandal Pages==
Howdy--You might want to boot these: http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hamidp--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:12, 12 December 2007 (EST)
:Done. Thanks. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:14, 12 December 2007 (EST)

== Superb blocks ==

Superb blocks, Dan! The break will arrive soon. :-) --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:03, 13 December 2007 (EST)

== Protect ==

Hi Dan, can you protect [[genocide]] until a concensus can be reached? Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:05, 13 December 2007 (EST)

==Genocide==

This seems a fairly straightforward issue to me. I have seen no definition of genocide outside of this site's article that requires that genocide be carried out by a government. The UN has not defined genocide this way, and the State Department states explicitly that genocide occurred in Bosnia. [http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/2868.htm] Based on these facts, I think the definition in the article should be corrected, and the Srebrenica massacre should be reinserted as an example of genocide. What are your thoughts? [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 21:42, 13 December 2007 (EST)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for protecting the image of Frida Kahlo :) I appreciate your assistance -- [[User:Taj|Taj]] 01:33, 18 December 2007 (EST)

:Thanks for all your hard work! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 01:35, 18 December 2007 (EST)

== User "Awesome" ==

DOH! You beat me to it... well, I don't have admin access either, so the best I could do was send a threating letter to him. :( I'm glad to see that someone is watching out though. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 22:01, 18 December 2007 (EST)

:Is there a way that I could raise these people to your attention faster? Like a template or something? It would likely save admins/sysops some time. --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 00:38, 19 December 2007 (EST)

I think what you did is sufficient enough :) Thanks for your help. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:41, 19 December 2007 (EST)

== Delete Article ==

Hi Dan,

Can you please delete [[hososcope]]. Someone made a spelling error in its creation. (I already created the appropriate article.)

Thanks,

[[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:48, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:Let's add [[December 2]] in there as well. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 02:04, 19 December 2007 (EST)

Thanks for all your hard work! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 02:05, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:Thanks Dan. I've noticed you are still quite the workhorse yourself. ;-) How about if we add one more for deletion and prevent recreation [[Lulz]]. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:07, 27 December 2007 (EST)

::Could you also please delete article [[Transvestitism]]. I'm not sure if we want to prevent recreation or not. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:11, 27 December 2007 (EST)

== Thanks ==

Thank you Dan. I am checking at this moment all his contribuitions. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 18:52, 20 December 2007 (EST)

: THANK YOU AGAIN. I did a little mistake, now [[Barney]] is ok.

::: Hi, I have 3 questions if you please: Could a deleted article be recovered?, could an "Image" be used to link to a CP article? and, at the tall page, what means the red color and the green bars? Thank you for your time. Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 09:10, 28 December 2007 (EST)

== Dude, why did you block me? ==

Please unblock [[user:FightPerniciousSwarm]]. You took a pledge, and then you blocked me for not using my "real" name. Dude, do you want help here or not? [[User:MichaelHunt|MichaelHunt]] 18:39, 27 December 2007 (EST)
:I kind of agree, I mean, [[User:Karajou]], [[User:CollegeRepublican]], and heaps more. --[[user:mssb57|m s s b 5 7]] // [[user talk:mssb57|blah !]] // [[special:contributions/mssb57|this was my fault]] 18:55, 27 December 2007 (EST)
::When you sign up, it clearly says '''frivolous''' user names will be blocked. "FightPerniciousSwarm" is frivolous. So is Michael Hunt, probably. I'm not stupid... I know what happens when you abbreviate it. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 18:57, 27 December 2007 (EST)
:::I'd rather get the "FightPerniciousSwarm" account back. It is far from frivolous. Fighting the pernicious liberal swarm is what I do. [[User:MichaelHunt|MichaelHunt]] 19:06, 27 December 2007 (EST)

== Please delete all of my contributions to the template space. They did not work out. ==

Please delete all of my contributions to the template space. They did not work out. I think you might need to update the wiki software for the templates to work. [[User:MichaelHunt|MichaelHunt]] 19:05, 27 December 2007 (EST)
:Thanks, I see you're deleting them. I'd like to come back as my first user name if possible. [[User:MichaelHunt|MichaelHunt]] 19:08, 27 December 2007 (EST)
I don't know, after all... if you ever visit a University campus, you have probably noticed that freshmen guppy up during the first weeks on campus. Okay. I'll unblock it. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 19:09, 27 December 2007 (EST)
::Yes, they do. Thank you sir. [[User:FightPerniciousSwarm|FightPerniciousSwarm]] 19:12, 27 December 2007 (EST)

== Category ==

Hi Dan,

I'm trying to move the entries from Basketball players to Basketball Players (in line with the manual of style). I usually create the category at the end when I've done them all. Please don't fix them. ;-) [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 03:15, 28 December 2007 (EST)

Okay, thanks! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 03:19, 28 December 2007 (EST)

==[[Liberal]]==

Okay to unprotect for PhineasBogg? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 19:03, 29 December 2007 (EST)

==Big vocabulary==

Inauspicious? Eschew obfuscation! ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 14:37, 30 December 2007 (EST)

== Great block ==

Great block this afternoon, Dan!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:14, 6 January 2008 (EST)

== Thanks!!! ==

Thanks so much for the second chance: I have already started trying to make valuable contribution to your web site.

Thanks again very much so!

== curses! ==

But that was only a test run. Maybe, say, 100 might be in order. From each of us at Ebaumsworld. --[[User:HPearce|HPearce]] 15:24, 8 January 2008 (EST)

== Thank you! ==

For catching the vandal! The username was a dead giveaway. I wish I could banhammer him... he even got my page...-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 18:04, 16 January 2008 (EST)

== Question ==

Dan, if you get a chance would you mind shooting me an IM? Thanks. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:33, 17 January 2008 (EST)
==Just FYI==
Hey Dan, I thought I'd figured out what happened to the Harry Truman page, and just to let you know: the problem was the user inserted <nowiki>{{user:Iekl}}</nowiki> in a ref tag (if your interested - see the section "Selection for Vice Presedency" http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Truman&oldid=356407&action=edit ). Nice job fixing it so quickly!--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 22:00, 17 January 2008 (EST)
:Thanks! This will be helpful. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 22:12, 17 January 2008 (EST)

== Christianity ==

You locked [[Christianity]] back in May. There's been a bit of activity there lately, with sysops having to add suggestions made by others. Do you think it's worth unlocking the article and seeing how it would go? It could always be locked again if necessary, of course. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:58, 18 January 2008 (EST)
:Let's give it a shot. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 08:09, 18 January 2008 (EST)
==I feel bad==
Dan, the warning you just gave to Luther Bifteck is my fault - not his. He removed information correctly, and I wasn't thinking, so I re-added it, but then reverted myself - he removed (again, correctly) the statement that "in God we trust" is in the pledge - I (and probably you too) was thinking "under God" - so yeah, that's my bad.--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 19:29, 20 January 2008 (EST)

:Thanks. I caught that soon after I did it, and was kind of embarrassed. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 19:30, 20 January 2008 (EST)

:: Don't be too hard on yourself, who among us does not make a mistake every now and then? To your credit you quickly noticed and remedied. :) [[User:Taj|Taj]] 19:48, 20 January 2008 (EST)

== Vote ==

Click on the link to vote in my poll. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim (CPAdmin1)]][[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Election08|Vote for President]] 23:05, 23 January 2008 (EST)
==For Deletion==
Thanks for deleting all those articles!--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 16:56, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Wow... they were all from a vandal? --[[User:Liam Spencer|''' L.S. ''']] 17:04, 26 January 2008 (EST)

== Blocking Barikada ==

I am not sure why you have blocked one of this sites most prolific editors. I have been unable to find the "crude sexual reference" in question. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 16:25, 27 January 2008 (EST)
:Was due to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Video_game_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=381634 this] talk page edit - and the use of the word "t*t"? [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 16:28, 27 January 2008 (EST)
::Yes. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:31, 27 January 2008 (EST)

:::Interesting. He appears to be making a legitimate point however, so the usage was not just gratuitous. Perhaps he should have used the word "breast". I assume that there is an acceptable word that wouldn't get an editor banned.

:::I find the offence taken at the use of some words and the various ways that people use to avoid it a bit curious. I note, for example, that Feebas has used "t*t". We all know what the "*" in "t*t" stands for. Why is that in any way better than using the whole word? Surely it is the use of the word we are worried about, not just the actual appearance of the letters together. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 16:37, 27 January 2008 (EST)

::::Then again why is "br**st" any better than "t*t"? Or "h**ter" perhaps? A word represents a thing. Are we offended by the thing or the word? Curiouser and curiouser. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 16:44, 27 January 2008 (EST)

:Anybody who gets a one hour block on Conservapedia is usually rather lucky. I would agree that meaning is generally important, but the use of coarse language generally expedites the course of desensitization. Plus, let's be honest, this is a family website. There's no reason to use that word here. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:46, 27 January 2008 (EST)

::I understand the conventions. I guess I am just interested in the psychology behind them, although I suppose that this is probably not the appropriate page to air all of that. Perhaps it might be worth an essay page some time. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 16:50, 27 January 2008 (EST)

... I was blocked? I didn't even notice. :/ I don't consider the word to be all that crude, though. I can think of several worse ways to say it. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 23:47, 31 January 2008 (EST)

: HE SAID IT AGAIN!!! --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 23:54, 31 January 2008 (EST)

::Kids, if I have to tell you to behave one more time I'm turning this car around and then ''nobody's'' going to Disney Land. Got it?
::Barikada: thinking of worse ways to say it in no way means that your way is ok. I managed to rephrase it in a way which got the point across while remaining clean. This encyclopedia is used by ''kids'', is it really going to pain you that much to search a little harder in your word bank? If you are just looking to get banned, please by all means ask; it will save everyone sime time. (Sorry for intruding Dan...) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:11, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::The first use was incidental. It wasn't meant to be vulgar, nor was it especially so. This one is slightly more vulgar, however, without resorting to awkward "the word that must not be said" dialogue, it is impossible to say why I was banned. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 18:18, 1 February 2008 (EST)

== Great work ==

Great work on the blocking ... and unblocking. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 28 January 2008 (EST)
==Hey==
Hey Dan, I don't know if your on now or not - but I'll be here for a while, so if you get a chance anytime within the next hour or so to get online I'd appreciate it - I need your input on a temp--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 14:55, 2 February 2008 (EST)

:I'm actually heading over to watch the Kansas basketball game right now... I'll be on later tonight, though. Sorry about the timing! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 14:56, 2 February 2008 (EST)

== Bloomberg edits ==

What was wrong with my edits to the Michael Bloomberg article? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 10:08, 5 February 2008 (EST)

==KU==

Hah! Did you catch the MU/KU basketball game? [[User:Mizzourah|Mizzourah]] 14:22, 9 February 2008 (EST)

:I was there in one of the front rows. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 23:11, 9 February 2008 (EST)

== Curious about your stance on Israel ==
I was just surfing the internets when I came upon your page and was wondering that when you say you support Israel do you mean that you believe that a Jewish state has the right to exist or that you support its recent and current actions.--[[User:ElliottRosewater|ElliottRosewater]] 00:16, 17 February 2008 (EST)

== Great blocks and redirects ==

Great blocks and redirects. Well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:20, 21 February 2008 (EST)

== Your recent redirect ==

Should I assume that mentioning that site, even without an insult to the site, is cause to block?-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 21:22, 21 February 2008 (EST)

:Generally speaking, yes. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:23, 21 February 2008 (EST)

== Edit ==

Great additions to [[liberal tricks]]!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:59, 23 February 2008 (EST)

== Protection ==

Wow, that was a smart move protecting that FAQ page!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:34, 28 February 2008 (EST)

== New username ==

Excuse me, but I was wondering what was wrong with my old username? Also, is this new name acceptable? [[User:Kingston|Kingston]] 19:39, 3 March 2008 (EST)

:Yes. The vast majority of users who use l33tspeak in their usernames end up vandalizing. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 19:40, 3 March 2008 (EST)

== Jazz values ==

...not meant as a parody - every word is true. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:43, 5 March 2008 (EST)

:Bob Jones University is not a standard conservative litmus test. They also ban contemporary Christian music and used to ban black students from enrolling. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 23:44, 5 March 2008 (EST)
::Then edit out the BJU bit - but don't kill the whole article! [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:47, 5 March 2008 (EST)
::It was pretty obviously meant as a parody of [[Hollywood values]]. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 23:48, 5 March 2008 (EST)
:::Not at all - more of a complimentary piece: can't you tell parody from real commentary? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:49, 5 March 2008 (EST)
::::Not on a site where Poe's law is so heavily in effect. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 00:26, 6 March 2008 (EST)

Video games

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'''Video games''' are electronic games commonly played by [[children]] and [[teen]]s. A large number of young adults, having grown up in the era of video games, also play. Many video games such as [[sports]] games and educational games are harmless [[fun]] and can actually be beneficial to a child's development, especially if they allow more than one player. Some games though are violent and sexually explicit and have attracted the attention of family groups and [[Conservative]] [[Christian]]s. Games such as [[Grand Theft Auto]] and [[Mortal Kombat]] are very violent and sometimes sexually explicit. Laws have been passed to limit young people's access to these violent games but these laws are either rarely enforced{{fact}} or overturned by judges.<ref>http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/148962.html</ref> Violent video games are believed to cause violent behaviour in some children, especially those under 16 whose mind is still not fully developed.{{fact}}

In the USA, the majority of games carry ESRB ratings.

== Various genres ==

Video games in the course of their existence have grown from the simple arcade style games, and have become more detailed and separated from one another. Genres can now include [[first person shooters]], [[racing]], [[Simulation]], [[Role-playing]], [[Sports]], and many others. Even then, games can combine genres, such as "Mass Effect" (Role Playing and Third Person Shooting), and some even create their own genre, like "Katamari Damacy".

== Popularity & Controversy ==

Games have risen in popularity over the years, as is shown in the rise of video games sales from the eighties until today. This has brought with it a various amount of controversy as the video game industry continues to grow with it's original player base.

Most of the controversy comes from the rising trend toward violence in video games, as pioneered by [[Doom]], [[Quake]], and the [[Grand Theft Auto]] series. One man in Particular, [[Jack Thompson]], has imposed a self-manned crusade against video games, which has made him a target of both the online gamer community and of the mainstream media.

== Video Games & Society ==

As video games become more popular, their impact on society becomes ever more present. A prime example of this is the massive ad campaigns for the [[Halo (game)|Halo]] series, as well as [[Grand Theft Auto]]. Advertising, merchandising, and even social pressures have changed in the ever-growing influence of video gaming.

Due to their popularity, various corporations have begun placing advertisements for their products within the context of the game. Players of [[Grand Theft Auto]] may notice real-world company ads on billboards. [[Second Life]], an Internet-based virtual world, has blurred the lines between real-world and virtual world. Companies such as Adidas Reebok and Dell have set up virtual stores selling real-world products within the game. [[Reuters]] also operates a news bureau reporting news in the game.

== Faith in Video Games ==

Faith in Video Gaming has, as a rule, either led to the creation of new and dynamic antagonists, or video games that are mediocre , such as ''Spiritual Warfare'' and ''Bible Adventure'' for the Nintendo, or ''The Bible Game'' for various systems.

The Bible, or other such religious texts, are rather used to tell a story spanning many different viewpoints. Turning these ideas into a video game, however, most often leads to games that tend to bore most video game audiences.

Religion has, however, taken a prominent place amongst the various heroes and villains in video games. The [[Breath of Fire Series]], in particular, uses God as a main antagonist in many of its incarnations. Other games to use religion include [[Final Fantasy]], [[Left Behind: Eternal Forces]], [[Xenogears]], and [[Okami]].

==Popular Video games==
*[[Final Fantasy]] - A very popular RPG series in both the United States and Japan. Most games contain violence, sexuality and [[occult|occultic]] themes, some contain references to [[homosexuality]], [[suicide]], teen pregnancy, transvestism and (although rarely) negativity towards [[religion]].
*[[Grand Theft Auto]] - Highly violent. 16-18 and up depending on country.
*[[Half-Life]] - First Person Shooter series about Gordon Freeman, a luckless scientist turned hero-from-desperation.
*[[Harvest Moon]] - Farm Life simulator, with many sequels spreading from various platforms. Character runs a farm, raises animals, and can eventually marry. Until recent incarnations, games had no violence. Rated E [6+] to T [13+].
*[[The Legend of Zelda]] - A popular series of fantasy action-adventure games.
*[[Mass Effect]] - A science fiction RPG rated "M" for blood, language, partial nudity, sexual themes, and violence.
*[[NHL]] Series - This series from EA Sports as well as other NHL series are very popular, especially in Canada.{{fact}} They are family friendly with less violence as seen on NHL hockey on television (which actually can get quite violent). There is, obviously, no sexuality.
*[[Pac-Man]]. An old maze game. It was very popular with kids and adults back in the eighties, and like most old video games it's a clean, fun game for everyone.
*[[Portal]] - A popular first person shooter/puzzle game based upon Half-Life involving teleportation.
*[[Resident Evil]] - Survival Horror video game series, revolving around viral zombies and the survivors of the zombie attacks. Copious blood, gore, and violence present. As of date, all games in series have been rated M [17+].
*[[The Sims]] - A light-hearted life simulator with mild violence and some sexuality. Recommended for 13 and up.
*[[Smash Brothers]] - Series of Nintendo Animated fighting games. Follows no specific story, mixing characters from different franchises in wide environments. Animated, no-blood violence.
*[[Soul Calibur]] - A weapon-based fighting game. Revolves around the tale of two weapons, Soul Edge [Cursed] and Soul Calibur [Blessed], and those who fight for control of the weapons.
*[[Street Fighter]] - One-on-one [[martial arts]] fighting game series, where a player selects one of various martial artists and battles other players or against computer-controlled characters. Since this game has mildly revealing dresses for the female fighters and sometimes a little blood during fights, though nowhere as over-the-top as Mortal Kombat, this game is recommended for teens.
*[[Super Mario Bros.]] - Side-scrolling platform game series by [[Nintendo]]. Players play as Mario and Luigi, two Italian-American plumber brothers from [[Brooklyn]], who explore the Mushroom Kingdom in order to rescue Princess Peach from the evil Bowser Koopa. This game has no strong violence and no sexual content, so it is suitable for all ages.

==See Also==
*[[Video game controversy]]
*[[Jack Thompson]]

==References==

<References/>

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[[Category:Video Games]]
[[Category:Computers]]

Liberal

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[[Image:Liberal Brain.jpg|thumb|230px|top|<center>A satirical conception of the liberal brain.</center>]]
A '''liberal''' is a believer in many of the following political positions:

* Tax and spend government
* Taxpayer-funded [[abortion]]
* [[Income redistribution]], usually through progressive taxation
* Government-rationed and taxpayer-funded medical care
* Taxpayer-funded "free" [[public education]]
* The denial of inherent [[gender differences]] and wanting men and women to have the same jobs in the [[military]]
* [[Same-sex marriage]]
* [[Affirmative action]]
* [[Political correctness]]<ref>[http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/27429.html Politically Correct Terrorism] ''The Conservative Voice'', August 21, 2007</ref>
* [[Censorship]] of [[prayer]] in classrooms and school sponsored events
* Labor [[union]]s
* Elimination of [[abstinence]]-only program funding <ref> [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286671,00.html Democrats Aim To Kill Abstinence-Only Program Funding], [[Fox News]], Monday, June 25, 2007</ref>
* A "[[living Constitution]]" that is reinterpreted, thwarting the amendment process specified in the Constitution as written.
* Support for [[gun control]]
* Government programs to [[rehabilitate criminals]]
* Abolition of death penalty
* [[Environmentalism]]<ref>[[Greenpeace]], for example.</ref>
* [[Disarmament treaties]]
* [[Globalism]]
* Opposition to a strong American foreign policy <ref>Stefaan Walgrave and Joris Verhulst, [http://nicomedia.math.upatras.gr/conf/CAWM2003/Papers/Verhulst.pdf The February 15 Worldwide Protests against a War in Iraq: An Empirical Test of Transnational Opportunities. Outline of a Research Programme](PDF).</ref>
* Support of obscenity and pornography as a [[First Amendment]] right<ref>The [[Warren Court]], led by [[liberal]] Justices [[William O. Douglas]], [[Hugo Black]], [[Abe Fortas]], [[William Brennan]] and Chief Justice [[Earl Warren]] issued 36 decisions granting [[First Amendment]] rights to obscenity and pornography. These decisions remain fully supported by liberals today.</ref>
* Opposition to full private property rights<ref>For example, the liberal wing of the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] issued the 5-4 [[Kelo v. City of New London]] decision authorizing the taking of private property by government in order to give the property to another private entity rather than convert it to a public use.</ref>
* Limiting [[conservative]] talk radio by reinstating the [[Fairness Doctrine]]
* Promoting [[liberal deceit]] if it advances their goals, or at least tolerating it
 

== Liberalism in North America today ==
[[Democrats]] and many media outlets in the [[U.S.]] often have a [[liberal bias]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp|title=Media Bias basics|publisher=Media Research Center}}</ref>

===Liberal Rankings of Congress Members===

The National Journal compiles the votes of each congress member each year and uses the information to create rankings<ref>http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/index.htm</ref> of how liberal each member of the United States [[Congress]] is. In addition to showing the voting records of each member and given an overall all ranking of liberalness, the National Journal also ranks congress members by liberalness in the areas of social, economic, and foreign policy.

==Liberalism in Europe today==

In Europe, on the other hand, parties that call themselves ''liberal'' are moderate in outlook, ranging from centre-left to centre-right, promote typically economic and business freedom. The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe<ref>http://www.alde.eu</ref> is an party of the European Parliament that represents most ''liberal'' parties from European countries. Similar policies are promoted by many ''liberal'' parties throughout the world,<ref>http://www.liberal-international.org/</ref> such as the Liberal Party of Australia.<ref>[http://www.liberal.org.au/]</ref>

Trade unions and socialist parties often criticize politicians that promote lower taxes on business, or more flexible hiring and firing laws, by calling them "liberals" or [[neoliberal|neoliberals]]. Thus, just like in the US, "liberal" is often used as a term of abuse. But when someone is called "liberal" in Europe, it is an entirely different to the meaning in the US.
In fact, the US meaning of liberal is more similar to the politics of European [[socialist]] or [[social democracy|social democratic]] parties.<ref>[http://www.pes.org]</ref>

==Historical Liberalism ==
In history, the word "liberal" has meant different things at different times, and was associated with individual liberty in prior centuries. In the postwar period, liberals supported government intervention in the economy and welfare state policies, as well as peaceful coexistence with the communist block, which are not liberal policies in the sense of classical liberalism. After the end of the cold war, with the demise of socialism and communism, many liberals embraced some ideas from economic neo-liberalism, and coined it the "Third Way". In the area of national security and foreign policy liberals in the [[U.S.]] failed to define a consistent stance, even after the events of 9/11 and the beginning of the war in Iraq. Liberals generally support affirmative action, gay marriage, and abortion.<ref>"Political liberals tend, for whatever reason, to be ardent supporters of both gay rights and pro-choice programs." Greenberg and Bailey [http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Bailey/Greenberg-Bailey/Homosexual%20Eugenics.pdf] </ref>

==Original meaning: Classical Liberalism==
Liberalism is a political philosophy with freedom as its core value. The term was originally applied to supporters of individual liberties and equal rights, but, in America, the term has come to represent a movement of social change that often conflicts with [[conservative]] values such as moral values and tradition.

See [[Classical Liberal|Classical Liberalism]]. Compare [[Libertarianism]].

==Alternative meanings of 'liberal'==

One definition of liberal is anything that is not conservative. For example, the American Heritage Dictionary includes this definition of "liberal":<ref>Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal</ref>
* Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas ...

==Liberal Organizations ==
*[[AARP|AARP - American Association of Retired People]]
*[[ACLU|ACLU - American Civil Liberties Union]]
*[[AFL-CIO|AFL-CIO - American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations]]
*[[Amnesty International|AI - Amnesty International]]
*[[Democratic National Committee]]
*[[Greenpeace]]
*[[NARAL|NARAL - National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League]]
*[[NAACP|NAACP - National Association for the Advancement of Colored People]]
*[[National Committee for an Effective Congress]]
*[[National Education Association]]
*[[National Organization of Women]]
*[[Planned Parenthood|Planned Parenthood Federation of America]]
*[[Rainbow/PUSH Coalition]]
*[[MoveOn.org]]
*[[A.N.S.W.E.R.]]

Source: [http://www.politixgroup.com/lo.htm The Politix Group]

==See Also==
* [[Liberal Bias]]
* [[Liberal Hypocrisy]]
* [[Essay:Liberal Style]]
* [[The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness]]
* [[Conservative Links]]
* [[Liberal denial]]
* [[Liberal hypocrisy]]
* [[Liberal deceit]]
* [[Liberal quotient]]
* [[Liberal hate speech]]
* [[Liberal logic]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

[[Category:Politics]]
[[Category:Political ideologies]]
[[Category:Deceit]]
[[Category:Liberals]]

Liberal

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User talk:HenryS

2008-03-03T06:26:45Z

Absentismens: /* Sysop */

Now I see that you are back. Great. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 21:08, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Welcome back!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:14, 11 January 2008 (EST)

: Are you back? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 10:21, 5 February 2008 (EST)

== My vandal counter ==

It's there, but I had to hide it, because it attracted too many <s>Bohdans</s> vandals. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:03, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Could you have a read of [[Holodomor denial]]. Thanks.--[[User:Bandurist|Bandurist]] 12:30, 23 February 2008 (EST)

== Sysop ==

Welcome back to your Sysop status, Bohdan! We've missed you, and your expertise about Eastern Europe.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:46, 29 February 2008 (EST)
:Thanks! But I might not be very active... Nevertheles, I will try to help. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 14:58, 29 February 2008 (EST)
::Congratulations Bohdan. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 01:26, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Talk:F-105 Thunderchief

2008-02-27T22:52:38Z

Absentismens:

All right, can someone tell me what the heck I'm doing wrong? I put in a references section and a category, which you can see if you click on "Edit," but it doesn't show in the final article. What gives? --[[User:Frey|Frey]] 17:49, 27 February 2008 (EST)

:Well, judging from my attempt to create a redirect last night, it seems that these types of edits take awhile to "go live". [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 17:52, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Standard temperature and pressure

2008-02-27T04:19:11Z

Absentismens: Accuracy.

In [[thermodynamics]], '''Standard Temperature and Pressure''' is defined as a [[temperature]] of 273.15 K (0 °C) and a [[pressure]] of 1.00 atm (100 kPa).<ref>Wile, Dr. Jay L. ''Exploring Creation With Chemistry''. Apologia Educational Ministries, Inc. 1998</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[category:meteorology]]
[[category:chemistry]]

Talk:Bovine spongiform encephalopathy

2008-02-27T03:24:52Z

Absentismens: /* Redirect */

Clever.--[[User:All Fish Welcome|All Fish Welcome]] 20:46, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

==Redirect==
Shouldn't this page redirect to [[Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)]]? Note: I do not know how to redirect pages. o_0 [[User:Kektklik|Fuzzy]] 22:14, 26 February 2008 (EST)
:Seems to me like it should, baring any objections, I'll make the redirect. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 22:19, 26 February 2008 (EST)
::Ok, that doesn't seem to have worked. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 22:24, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Talk:Bovine spongiform encephalopathy

2008-02-27T03:19:07Z

Absentismens: /* Redirect */

User talk:David R

2008-02-27T02:58:16Z

Absentismens: /* IRK? */

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Ha ha David. Great banner!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:11, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks! :) I kind of borrowed from yours a bit and then changed a lot around. I still haven't fully grasped how to use divs in Wiki; my HTML tables don't seem to work very well. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 00:12, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

== Thanks. ==

Honestly, I thought it was a programming error that my name was mentioned in his comment. Please forgive, I'm VERY new to the site. I haven't gotten a straight answer on this: Is any variant on the word Sex forbidden on this site?

Still, you should not have edited his comment. As for your question, I'm not exactly sure what you want to put up. I suppose a good safety measure is to not write anything you wouldn't like your little brother or sister to see. I don't know what that is for you, but you will certainly know if you cross the line. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 23:53, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

== personal talk pages ==

I don't have a problem with someone clearing their own talk page. replace it if you must, please don't block someone for doing it. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 00:03, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

Talk pages can be placed in Archives, but they shouldn't be cleared. I don't know what user you really are, but last I heard, comments are not supposed to be deleted unless they're obscene. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 00:05, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

==Complaint==

Please, tell me how my edit violated any of those "Commandments". [[User:_Ace|_Ace]]

See [[Conservapedia:Commandments|Commandment #3]]. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 13:57, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

Please cite the commandment I violated and the Edit that violated it. Also, I think it should be added in the Commandments that conservative bias must be found in all edits. [[User:_Patriot101|_Patriot101

==Proposed Block Policy==
There has recently been some disagreement over blocks, so I have created a [[User:CPAdmin1/Proposed Block Policy|proposed block policy]]
Tell me what you think. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 23:23, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Sysop Pledge==

As my good deed of the day I am requesting that you place this template on your userpage. Participating sysops will earn my respect and gratitude. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 23:58, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

{{Sysop Pledge}}

== Hard to read ==

The whit lettering on the bluish background ar hard to read, i suggest changing it to black lettering. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 13:20, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the suggestion. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 13:28, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

== ==

This looks like your MySpace... [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 13:41, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Haha....yeah, it was definitely a guideline. :) --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 13:41, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

== The word "parody" ==

Please forgive me for pointing this out... People are starting to use the word "parody" a little bit incorrectly, and it's starting to grate on me. If your comments were just typographical errors, my apologies.

A "parody" is to writing what a "caricature" is to sketching. A parody is a piece of writing which imitates its target, but exaggerates or warps it for comic effect. For example, the 1991 movie "Hot Shots!" was a parody of the movie "Top Gun."

The parody is the work, not the person who creates it.

In the context of Conservapedia, it is the remarks or articles which an insincere user writes, not the user himself. The user would properly be called '''a parodist,''' not "a parody." Similarly, one would not say "you are not that good a parody" but "you are not that good '''at''' parody." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 05:56, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

== RFB? ==

*Please no more unilaterial actions as a Sysop. Who was this approved by? --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 22:37, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

See your talk page. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 22:39, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

*Andy has explained, David. Please try and let a guy know about stuff...this has all been very controversial, and my intention was to avoid more pot-stirring, and trouble. Sorry for the confusion. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 23:16, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

==Tigers letter D==
Now how do you go about making one of those little info boxes, like what you have for the Yankees, but inserting the Old English letter "D" in it? I would love to have one for the Detroit Tigers. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 22:54, 21 April 2007 (EDT)
::Many thanks for the userbox, and to a fan of (and I admit it!) the greatest baseball team in history...but I still love my Tigers! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 23:19, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

== nice user page! ==

Nice user page! The best I've seen!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:59, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Haha, thanks. Do you use Mozilla Firefox? It works best in that browser. --[[User:David R|<<-David R->>]] 23:00, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

== Don't let the new position go to your head if you get it. ==

Don't let the new position go to your head if you get it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:06, 22 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

== Please vote for me ==

Please vote for me here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Request_for_Bureaucratship [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:40, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Lactose intolerance ==

I will only say this once, and then move on, and let you decide what to do.

Lactose intolerance is an example of microevolution, which creation scientists have no problem with. [http://www.trueauthority.com/cvse/micromacro.htm] And the claims of the natural selection are supported by reference 2 of the article. [http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/070401_lactose] You don't have to scrub a sentence just because it has "natural" and "selection" in succession with each other.

But I will let you decide what to do. [[User:Sterile|Sterile]] 09:03, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

==Red Sox logo Image:BOS Red Sox.png==
I have made a userbox thingy for Juaquin Martinez, as he is a Red Sox fan, and I did use the logo...with the required warning that it might be changed, etc. I am thinking of the possibility that such a logo can be used by a fan as mere fan support for his team, but for that we'd have to check with the owner of the logo. Do you think it's possible? If so, then we could have the real thing displayed on our pages! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:30, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

I sent a message to the powers that be on the Tigers official website about the fan-use of their logo yesterday. I should get an answer shortly, and I'm thinking that they allow it; this reasoning is based on official fan-sites which support a positive image of the Tigers. If it's a yes, then the same rule may apply for the Yankees...so get to writing them! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:32, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

====the bad news====
This came in my email from Ron Wade, an official from the internet side of the Detroit Tigers website:
:''"I'm sorry, but use of our marks or logos on the internet is prohibited. Major League Baseball Advanced Media has exclusive internet rights to MLB team marks and logos. The only exceptions are news gathering and reporting sites and only if the use of the logo is in conjunction with box scores or game summaries. (ESPN, Fox Sports, etc.)"''

So that means no one can use a baseball logo as a fan on a website. Both your's and mine are different enough to get away with it, but Juaquin's is not. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 18:52, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Okay, I'd better remove a couple of sports logos off of my page knowing that now. It's probably safe enough, but I'd rather err on the side of caution. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 18:58, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

== 6000 years old? ==

I'm honestly not in the mood for an argument (major migraine) but could you just sum up how the heck you can think the worlds only 6000 years old?? I don't get it. Thx[[User:AtheistKathryn|AtheistKathryn]] 23:49, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

== I will let Andy know about icewedge ==

I will let Andy know about icewedge. I will send him an email. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:51, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

== I have to leave in 5 minutes. I will let andy know about icewedge ==

I have to leave in 5 minutes. I will let andy know about icewedge. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:54, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

== An idea to build more internet traffic to conservapedia ==

Wikipedia gives the top 1,000 articles for its website as can be seen here: http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/%7Eleon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?lang=en&wiki=enwiki&ns=articles&limit=1000&month=04%2F2007&mode=view

I think we might be able to drive more http://www.google.com and other traffic to Conservapedia if we make the following articles at Conservapedia better based on the first 100 or so most popular articles at Wikipedia:

- [[United States]]

- [[Columbine High School massacre]]

- [[World War II]]

- [[Global warming]]

- [[World War I]]

- [[Adolf Hitler]]

- [[Battle of Thermopylae]]

- [[Canada]]

- [[William Shakespeare]]

- The [[Holocaust]]

- [[Abraham Lincoln]]

- [[Jesus]]

- [[Vietnam War]]

- [[China]]

'''What do you think about starting a Conservapedia improvement drive for these articles?''' Clearly these are serious subjects that people are interested in based on Wikipedia statistics. Therefore, I believe from a strategic point of view in regards to creating internet traffic to Conservapedia it makes a lot of sense to start a improvement drive in regards to these Conservapedia articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:56, 28 April 2007 (EDT)

== Why did you delete my page? ==

I worked hard on that article, why did you delete it? --[[User:Protocletos|Protocletos]] 15:34, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

: What if you restored it, and I worked some more on it? Obviously I had not completed it, it is simply convenient for me to work on articles small parts at a time. --[[User:Protocletos|Protocletos]] 15:48, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Well, which pieces were "said pieces"? I assume you mean the examples, which are vital to the article. If they were not there it would be infintely harder and more tedious to explain what exactly a "Your mum" joke is, and the end result would be just as offensive. (And I fail to see how the jokes could be taken as offensive when they are not directed at anyone.)

::: Fair enough, you're the boss, I suppose.--[[User:Protocletos|Protocletos]] 15:56, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

:::: Apologies, by boss, I just meant someone whose rank was superior to mine. I agree with what you say and will do my best to clean up the article if you restore it.

== User page in main space category ==

Typically, it is considered good wiki style to not include user pages in main space categories. You have your user page in [[:Category:Anti-secular humanist]]. Would you consider either removing that or moving it to a User category name space? --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 17:16, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

: I am refering to [[User:David R]] - not [[User talk:David R]]. These are probably included from templates. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 16:33, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

== Perhaps you could help me out a bit ==

I was writing up a draft dodging article, andd linked out to your Alvin York article. I have written that York changed his mind about filing for CO, your article basically says he was sent despite it. I just do not know the truth, and may have been influenced by Hollywood in my version, so if you are certain or have a good souce, I will be glad to conform my article and resolve the discrepancy. If you get a moment, please get back to me on this. Thanks very much.
[[User:Leffingwell|Leffingwell]] 17:44, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

== Please block ==

[[User:Msousa17]]. Thanks. [[User:ThomasB|ThomasB]] 13:56, 2 January 2008 (EST)
:Nevermind. [[User:ThomasB|ThomasB]] 14:03, 2 January 2008 (EST)

==Theory and practice==

Hi, David. I liked what you said [] about theory and practice. I read a couple of university-level textbooks on Communism, and I daresay you are "dead on" about the consistency of theory and practice.

The inconsistency, of course, is between the political promises made to the "working class" before each revolution. [[Andrew Wilson]] wrote ''[[Communism: Promise and Practice]]'' about that.

But the idea of lying to people to get their support is by no means inconsistent with Communist theory, which adopts an [[ends justify the means]] philosophy. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 23:09, 4 January 2008 (EST)
==Nicely Done==
Hey - great job with the quick reverts of that vandal!--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 00:01, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:No problem. Good block. --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 00:02, 1 February 2008 (EST)

::That guy's been adding that dumb banner to various basic science articles for months now. Ugh. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:03, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::Uh oh. If only I still had checkuser, I could find out what other names he used. Then I could revert from there. :\ --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 00:05, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::::Well - luckily his socks are becoming pretty obvious (see the user I just blocked)--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 00:05, 1 February 2008 (EST)
:::::I'm almost curious enough to not block him for a while to see what he actually has to say. Since this "intelligent matter theory" only seems to exsist in his head, I'm curious what it is. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:08, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::::::He's an obvious parodist - he said on the mastectomy page that the cancer was a result of sin - I'm not letting that guy stay unblocked for any amount of time. Oh and david - can you delete [[User_talk:NOTASOCK]]--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 00:10, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::::::::Yeah. Must be really bored to add the same thing every couple of weeks. He obviously knows it won't stay if it gets reverted every time. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:14, 1 February 2008 (EST)
Well, I truly would like to stay and see this vandal out the door, but it is late here and I have some work to do in the morning. I will be back tomorrow. Goodnight. --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 00:18, 1 February 2008 (EST)
==Uhm==
Hey David- I'm reverting your Examples of Bias in CP edit because your removal of words just didn't make sense - like you would leave sentences without endings, I'll re-add the point you made though--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 14:08, 1 February 2008 (EST)
:Thanks, I was just about to ask someone to do that. My computer automatically removes words that it finds offensive. Very sorry :(. --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 14:09, 1 February 2008 (EST)
::Oh not a problem - although you might want to find a way to turn off that setting - especially if your editing that article or history articles (I noticed one of the removals was "KKK" (spelled out)).--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 14:12, 1 February 2008 (EST)
:::Yeah, I know. Ughh, what a hindrance! --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 14:14, 1 February 2008 (EST)

== IRK? ==

Does Conservapedia use an IRC channel for discussion? I am used to this based on my contributions to Wikipedia. --[[User:Chevrefuqae|Chevrefuqae]] 21:54, 26 February 2008 (EST)

:I am not totally sure. I have never heard of it before. That may be a question for [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] or [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]]. --[[User:David R|David R]][[User talk:David R|talk]] 21:57, 26 February 2008 (EST)

::There's #conservapedia on freenode, but I don't think CP actually uses it. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 21:58, 26 February 2008 (EST)

Liberals and friendship

2008-02-25T23:44:00Z

Absentismens: Following HelpJazz's exapmle.

{{Uncited}}
A '''liberal friendship''' is a friendship on [[liberal]] terms, as in requiring acceptance, allowance or lack of criticism of [[liberal]] values. It is often the product of [[peer pressure]]. Someone in a '''liberal friendship''' can expect loss of the friendship if he dares to express dismay or disapproval of the [[liberal]] values.

A '''liberal friendship''' can occur wherever [[liberals]] apply [[peer pressure]] to spread their belief system. It can occur in college, in relationships, and in the workplace.

In contrast, [[conservatives]] virtually never require censorship or acceptance of [[conservative]] principles as a condition of friendship.

== See also ==

* [[liberal grading]]
[[category:politics]]
[[Category:Liberals]]

Brigham Young University

2008-02-15T04:05:59Z

Absentismens:

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|image=
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|city=Provo, Utah
|sports=Baseball, Basketball, Cross Country, Football, Golf, Gymnastics, Skiing, Soccer, Softball, Swimming And Diving, Tennis, Track And Field, Volleyball<ref>http://www.byucougars.com/</ref>
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'''Brigham Young University''', commonly known as ''BYU'' is a [[university]] owned and operated by the [[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]] located in [[Provo]], [[Utah]].

==References==

{{reflist}}

{{Nb_US_universities}}

Conservapedia talk:Guard dog

2008-02-09T22:35:16Z

Absentismens:

Needs to be a bit "smarter", methinks. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:02, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:You made 9 edits in 1 minute. It's probably pretty hard to program a system smart enough to tell when you are simply testing its limits and not, in fact, a botspammer... [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:22, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::To the contrary, it need only look at the kind of changes that are being made. Significantly harder to write, admittedly, but that's a price that must be paid. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:25, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:::In fact, I would see if a copy of the AVB from Wikipedia could be procured. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:26, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::::Regardless, in no normal circumstances should users make that many edits in a short period of time. In fact, I'm not sure I could find a page, make decide what edit needs to be made, make said edit, and save the page all in under 6 seconds. Even when you go through and fix categories you can't go that fast. I would say that anyone who makes that many edits in 1 minute should be slowed down. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:32, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:::::One word: Tabs. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 17:35, 9 February 2008 (EST)

Talk:Liberal denial

2008-02-02T03:14:55Z

Absentismens: /* Abortions and breast cancer */

One might say there's a such thing as conservative denial as well. One just might. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:13, 5 June 2007 (EDT)
:Surely the collapse of the Soviet Bloc due to its utter inability to manage a moder economy had a bigger impact that Reagan's words? Come on, this is facile at best. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 18:59, 24 January 2008 (EST)

:: See? You help illustrate our point!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:05, 24 January 2008 (EST)

::: Uh? What he's saying sounds far more logical. With the Soviet Union in pieces, there was no reason for them to be controlling half of Germany. Thus, Germany was reunited,and the wall dismantled. Claiming it was simply Reagen's command that did it is... Well, bloody stupid at best. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 19:14, 24 January 2008 (EST)

:::: Um, Reagan called on Gorbachev to tear the Berlin Wall down in 1987. The Wall fell in November 1989. When George HW Bush was President. And when the Soviet Union had realised that its hold on Eastern Europe was no longer possible, due to its economic collapse. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 19:18, 31 January 2008 (EST)

::::: Really??? You mean that the Wall didn't fall the very next day after Reagan's speech??? Thanks for demonstrating how this point is an example of [[liberal denial]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:58, 31 January 2008 (EST)

:::::: ... Either you never learned proper English, or you really need to crack open a textbook, man. I strongly advise rewriting that so it doesn't look like you're accusing him of denying the Berlin Wall (I assume that's what you meant, and not the Pink Floyd movie) fell the day after Reagan's speech, as if that was what happened. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 23:20, 31 January 2008 (EST)

::::::: Quite correct, the wall did not fall the next day - or the next week, or the next month. It fell almost two and a half years later. You might as well credit President Kennedy for its fall by objecting to it in 1963 with his "Ich Bin Ein Berliner" speech. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 10:45, 1 February 2008 (EST)

== Not Fair! ==

Come on people, this is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a summary of an [[Ann Coulter]] book [[User:DLerner|DLerner]]

:Oh come on, we all know democracy had nothing to do with the Greeks or the Iroquois. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 23:24, 31 January 2008 (EST)

:Aside from that, the entire concept is a catch-22: Anyone who denies any of those things is automatically a liberal, and if they deny that, well, that's only further proof they're liberals. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 23:26, 31 January 2008 (EST)

:Barikada, how do the Greeks fit here?
[[User:DLerner|DLerner]]

::The first democractic system resembling current democracy was implemented by the Greeks, if evil public schooling hasn't lied to me. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 23:30, 31 January 2008 (EST)

== Abortions and breast cancer ==

Is it ''plainly true'' that abortion increases the likelihood of breast cancer?

My understanding is that such a claim is not supported by the medical literature. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 00:02, 1 February 2008 (EST)

: Your understanding is from [[liberal denial]]s. Yes, it is "plainly true" and undeniable, just as no one denies that childbirth reduces the incidence of breast cancer. Don't be fooled by liberal denials - the truth shall set you free.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:17, 1 February 2008 (EST)

::See? Catch-22. Do you have a reputable medical source for this, Mr. Schlafly? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 00:19, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::I was thinking of this: http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage for example (although I note that it is a few years old). It concludes that there is no increase in risk. It seems to me that if the National Cancer Institute says there is no increase in the risk then it is a bit of a stretch to say that it is ''plainly true'' that the risk increase exists. Surely you can't really call something plainly true when it goes against wht the experts are saying. --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 00:29, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::So, should we remove the abortion/breast cancer comment from the article? --[[User:GDewey|GDewey]] 20:20, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::: Folks, go somewhere else to engage in [[liberal denial]]s. Nobody honest denies that childbirth reduces the risk of breast cancer, and thus having an abortion must increase the relative risk of the mother for breast cancer.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:24, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::::"Nobody honest denies that childbirth reduces the risk of breast cancer, and thus having an abortion must increase the relative risk of the mother for breast cancer." --Aschlafly Andy, that's like saying that eating too much sodium is bad for you (Something no honest person disagrees with), so therefore, eating absolutely no sodium is good for you(Something which would prove fatal). [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 21:53, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::::: You statement has no logic. Nothing in my statement had anything to do with quantity or frequency, and your analogy has no basis.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:03, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::::::My statement has as much logic as your's. This is good, therefore, this is bad (Or vice-versa). [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 22:08, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::::::: Your analogy is nonsensical, and I'm not going to allow [[last wordism]] for such nonsense. No one sincerely and knowingly denies that childbirth reduces the risk of breast cancer, and of course the inverse is also true.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:12, 1 February 2008 (EST)

:::::::::Last wordism? Really? That's the best you can do? [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 22:14, 1 February 2008 (EST)

Talk:Liberal denial

2008-02-02T03:08:58Z

Absentismens: /* Abortions and breast cancer */

Talk:Liberal denial

2008-02-02T02:53:35Z

Absentismens: /* Abortions and breast cancer */

Utah

2008-01-31T23:38:41Z

Absentismens: /* Notable people from Utah */

[[Image:Utah_State_Flag.gif|thumb|right|The state flag of Utah.]]

'''Utah''', known as the ''Beehive State'', is the forty-fifth state to enter into the union, achieving statehood on Jan. 4, 1896. Approximately 62% of Utah's residents are members of [[The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints]] ([[Mormons]]), although this number is on the wane.
<ref>http://www.sltrib.com/ci_2886596</ref>

The state's capital and largest city is [[Salt Lake City]]. The Great Salt Lake, located in northern Utah, is the largest saltwater lake in the Western hemisphere. <ref>http://www.utah.com/stateparks/great_salt_lake.htm</ref>

The state bird is the California Seagull. The state insect is the European Honey Bee.

==History==

The first permanent European settlement of Utah came in 1847 when members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, led by [[Brigham Young]], settled there, which ended their long westward trek to escape persecution. Peace would prove illusory, as relations with Native Americans and white non-Mormons would turn sour. The infamous Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857 led to over 100 deaths. <ref>[http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=1c234dc029133110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&locale=0 The Mountain Meadows Massacre]</ref> <ref>http://www.cesnur.org/testi/morm_01.htm</ref> Utah was admitted into the Union in 1896, after the Church banned polygamy on the basis that a new revelation from God had commanded this.

==Politics==

Utah is among the reddest of red states, having elected President Bush by some of the highest margins of any state in both 2000 and 2004. Salt Lake City is generally the only exception, having a mayor, Rocky Anderson, who is very liberal. <ref>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17154193/</ref> Both of the state's Senators ([[Orrin Hatch]] and Bob Bennett) are Republicans, and two out of the state's three Representatives are Republicans. <ref>http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=UT</ref>

==Notable people from Utah==

*[[Orson Scott Card]], science-fiction writer best known for the ''Ender's Game'' series, has lived in Orem.
*[[Orrin Hatch]] - Republican U.S. Senator from Utah, serving since 1977.
*[[Gordon B. Hinckley]], President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints as of 2007, was born in Salt Lake City.
*[[Ken Jennings]], who made a record 74 straight appearances on the game show ''Jeopardy'', lives in Utah.
*[[Donny Osmond]] and [[Marie Osmond]] - singers and actors; both were born in Ogden.
*[[Brigham Young]], perhaps the most important person in the history of the founding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints other than the founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., was part of the aforementioned settling of the state in the 1840s.
*[[Steve Young]] - Hall of Fame quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Steve is a direct descendant of [[Brigham Young]].
*[[Mario Capecchi]] - Awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for "Discoveries for introducing specific gene modifications in mice by the use of embryonic stem cells."

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==See Also==
*[[Bountiful Utah Temple]]
*[[Logan Utah Temple]]
*[[Manti Utah Temple]]
*[[Monticello Utah Temple]]

{{USstates}}
[[Category:US state]]

Brigham Young University

2008-01-31T23:29:57Z

Absentismens: Adding University templatebox.

{{University
|name=Brigham Young University
|image=
|text=rgb(1,0,204)
|background=
|type=Public
|city=Provo, Utah
|sports=Baseball, Basketball, Cross Country, Football, Golf, Gymnastics, Skiing, Soccer, Softball, Swimming And Diving, Tennis, Track And Field, Volleyball<ref>http://www.byucougars.com/</ref>
|colors=Blue, White & Tan
|mascot=Cosmo the Cougar
|website=http://www.byu.edu
}}
'''Brigham Young University''', commonly known as ''BYU'' is a [[university]] owned and operated by the [[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]] located in [[Provo]], [[Utah]].

==References==

{{reflist}}

{{Nb_US_universities}}

Talk:Sudden Jihad Syndrome

2008-01-31T19:44:34Z

Absentismens: /* Proposal */

== Merge Discussion ==

But *GASP* don't you see how it's Liberal Bias to not have a dedicated article on this term that basically only one guy on Earth uses? Wikipedia deleted it, and it's something a conservative did, thus, we ''must'' have it! ;)

Okay, seriously speaking, as I've said in two places so far, get rid of it. '''Merge''' it, '''delete''' it, anything. The majority of sources inside the article doesn't even mention the term (so far, I've only seen that guy using it, and somebody in an editorial mentioned in passing that the guy used it), Original Research to the max, and the term is incredibly broad to the level of being useless and slightly offensive.

Conservative or not, we don't need a dedicated article about every new term somebody came up with. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:01, 18 January 2008 (EST)

:I agree with Jenkins' sentiment if not his tact. I think the article should be deleted, but I would be ok with it being merged and edited to comply with the [[Conservapedia:Guidelines]]. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 15:11, 18 January 2008 (EST)

:::'''NOTE:''' The following comment was removed ''twice'' without explanation, and the only hint is a mysterious block note that reads "Try using better tact when talking about the people here". However, this post talks about '''Daniel Pipes''', who, to the best of my knowledge, is not a CP editor. On the other hand, Skip accused me of liberal deceit in an edit comment and did not even receive a warning. Thus, I feel that this comment should stay. Removing ''discussion'' post is completely against the spirit of having a ''discussion''. Or is there some connection between Pipes and CP that I'm not aware of? If he's some sort of Holy Man here, I'll back off, but until then, I will not censor myself just because he is a conservative. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)
:::Sorry, but I already brought this up on Andy's talk page and the Examples of Bias talk page, and those posts were ignored. (You know how that feels...) However, I admit that I'm not wasting much tact on something that is effectively just racism (or at least an open invitation for it). Quoting our dear, "neoconservative academic" himself:
{{cquote|Individual Islamists may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and as such, all must be considered potential killers.}}
:::What's the next step then? Since they "must be considered potential killers", let's... oh, I dunno... stuff them all into prisons or a [[ghetto]] so they can't commit Sudden Jihad? Oh, and make them wear a special badge around their arm so we're warned... *whistles innocently*
:::Here, a bonus, from the same City Journal article:
{{cquote|The first and most straightforward thing is not to allow any more Islamists into the country. Each Islamist who enters the United States, whether as a visitor or an immigrant, is one more enemy on the home front. Officials need to scrutinize the speech, associations, and activities of potential visitors or immigrants for any signs of Islamist allegiances and keep out anyone they suspect of such ties.
(...)
Resident Muslim aliens who reveal themselves to be Islamist should be immediately expelled from the country before they have a chance to act. Citizen Islamists will have to be watched very closely and without cease.}}
:::Yep, I can feel the love. Let the [[racial profiling]] begin! Let's monitor everybody for <s>thoughtcrime</s> Islamist trends! I'll accept being called a liberal for opposing this open hate. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:37, 18 January 2008 (EST)
::::Sorry, Jenkins. When I said I didn't agree with your tact I meant it as a joke, but it didn't come out well. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:07, 18 January 2008 (EST)
:::::It's cool, really. :) I freely admit that it could have been more tactful, but when faced with the subject at hand, I don't really see the point. My gripe really isn't about any CP editor (Even though I still disagree that the deletion was bias, but that's not really connected to our article.), but rather about that Pipes guy who seems to have no problem with incredibly sweeping statements like the above. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 23:15, 18 January 2008 (EST)

I disagree strongly with merging this. I think Pipes is wrong. I don't know if he is being racist. But none of that is relevant. The term isn't used only by Daniel Pipes. Google shows over 25,000 hits for it. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Sudden+Jihad+Syndrome%22&btnG=Google+Search] . The term has been used in other notable places such as a column in the Washington times. <ref>http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001</ref>. And the connection of all these terrorists to SJS has been made by other sources also[http://www.montanasnews.com/articles.php?mode=view&id=7227]. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 15:51, 18 January 2008 (EST)

*'''Merge''' with [[Jihad]]. Common sense solution. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] ([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]]) 17:52, 18 January 2008 (EST)
: I still think it should be its own article. But that might make more sense than merging with Pipes. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 18:40, 18 January 2008 (EST)

== References ==

Since the quality of the references was partially what got this article removed from WP, here's the state of the references as the article stands now:
#http://www.nysun.com/article/29080 -- Editorial by Pipes. Threaded with racism, including quotes such as "Individual Islamists may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and as such, all must be considered potential killers."
#http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_4_fighting_militant.html -- Editorial by Pipes. More racism.
#http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001 -- Article by Sara A. Carter. References some government report, though the report itself probably doesn't use the phrase SJS.
#http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/24/muhammad.profile/index.html -- Article by unnamed author at CNN. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)
#http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/01/sprj.dcsp.malvo.trial/index.html -- Article by unnamed author at CNN. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)
#http://www.montanasnews.com/articles.php?mode=view&id=7227 -- Editorial by Gary Pratt. Gives a long list of Muslims who killed people, claiming that these are cases of SJS (though giving no evidence).
#http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-97/02-25-97/a05wn036.htm -- Article by AP writer Tom Hayes. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS).
#http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={730A921C-1FED-4DCD-9949-D28A3390317D} -- Editorial by Pipes. Gives actual case and details of an allegid SJS case.
#http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/17/AR2006061700725.html -- Article by Washington Post writer Hamil R. Harris. Gives factual account of incident (no mention of SJS).
#http://www.meforum.org/article/77 -- Very in-depth article by Uriel Heilman. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)
#http://www.thecourier.com/opinion/editoral/ar_ED_021607.asp -- Editorial by unnamed author. Basically just a recap of Pipes' frontpagemag article.

I personally think that the Pipes articles (1, 2, 8) are only good for discussing what ''Pipes'' defines as SJS. Article 3 is the only one which mentions SJS without also mentioning Pipes, but the source isn't all that useful. Articles (4, 5, 7, 9, 11) are fine for describing incincidents, but do not use or allude to the term SJS. Of the remaining editorials, 6 is not relevant (it is an editorial about SJS, and anybody can right an editorial about whatever they want), and 11 is only the same information as reference 8. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:00, 19 January 2008 (EST)

== I've found many other mentions by the mainstream media and bloggers ==

Examples not from Mr Pipes - [http://www.aina.org/news/20070217140736.htm] [http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/01/03/sudden-jihad-syndrome-is-still-terrorism/] [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/08/09/cstillwell.DTL]. And an article in the Conservative Voice - [http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23038.html]. Even the liberal [[New York Times]] listed it as a prominent term of 2006 [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/weekinreview/24barrett.html?_r=2&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Subjects/E/English%20Language&oref=slogin&oref=slogin].
Is this enough to allow us to include it? [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 16:24, 22 January 2008 (EST)

The others seem fair enough, but the SFGate reference directly attributes the phrase to Pipes. [[User:Reasonableperson|Reasonableperson]] 16:28, 22 January 2008 (EST)

Of course it attributes the phrase to Pipes. He coined it. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 16:31, 22 January 2008 (EST)

==Proposal==
I propose that Sulejman Talovic be removed from the list. This is in light of a new report on the Trolley Square Shooting which can be found [http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2570963 here]. This report clearly states that religion was not a motive. Hence, I suggest he be removed from the list. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 23:04, 30 January 2008 (EST) P.S. I would be glad to do this, I just felt it would be better to discuss first.

:Technically, all we can say from the report is that we don't know if religion was or was not the motive. This isn't enough to say that religion definitely was not the motive, but it's enough in my book to remove the item. Anyone else? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:34, 30 January 2008 (EST)

::So would I be within bounds to remove said entry? [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 14:44, 31 January 2008 (EST)

User talk:Hermann1359

2008-01-31T19:16:54Z

Absentismens:

{{welcome|sig=[[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 00:20, 31 January 2008 (EST)}}
I think what you were trying to describe would be better classified as a hallucination, not a possession. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 00:20, 31 January 2008 (EST)
:Albert Hofmann himself clearly identified the experience as a ''demon possession''. This is not unprecedented. It is described in the Bible several times.[[User:Hermann1359|Hermann1359]] 00:26, 31 January 2008 (EST)
::Upon re-reading it, it sounds like he was using the demon as a metaphor for LSD. If that's not the case, any "demons" were likely to be hallucinations caused by the drug. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 14:16, 31 January 2008 (EST)

University of Utah

2008-01-31T05:24:52Z

Absentismens: Corrections

{{University
|name=University of Utah
|image=
|text=rgb(204,0,1)
|background=
|type=Public
|city=Salt Lake City, Utah
|sports=baseball, basketball, cross country, football, golf, gymnastics, skiing, soccer, softball, swimming and diving, tennis, track and field, volleyball<ref>http://utahutes.cstv.com/</ref>
|colors=Crimson & White
|mascot="Swoop" A red tailed hawk
|website=http://www.utah.edu/
}}
The '''University of Utah''' is located in [[Salt Lake City]], [[Utah]], and was founded February 28, 1850. The school was originally named the University of Deseret, but in 1894 was renamed The University of Utah. The school is home to over 28,000 students and 13,760 faculty members.

==Notes==
{{reflist}}

== References ==
[http://www.utah.edu/home/index.uofu]

{{Nb_US_universities‎}}

User talk:Hermann1359

2008-01-31T05:20:35Z

Absentismens: New page: {{welcome|sig=~~~~}} I think what you were trying to describe would be better classified as a hallucination, not a possession. ~~~~

Talk:Sudden Jihad Syndrome

2008-01-31T04:04:00Z

Absentismens: /* I've found many other mentions by the mainstream media and bloggers */