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Talk:Jared Loughner

2011-01-11T04:34:21Z

AdmiralDolphin:

Hi, sorry if my edits were along the wrong lines. Advice for future contributions please? [[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 11:34, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:I also am confused why they were removed. I was homeschooled myself and am glad I was by my mother. Carlos

Response to both above: everything in this entry should be limited to well-support facts, without any opinion. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:00, 10 January 2011 (EST)

OK, understood. But I thought that I referenced the leaked Dept. of Homeland Security report? (I know I referenced the Huffington Post - had to hold my nose while doing so!)[[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 12:06, 10 January 2011 (EST)

:That's an insufficient basis for making an allegation in an entry page about someone here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:35, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:OK, that's cool. As you can see, I'm pretty new here. I'll have another read through the Conservapedia Commandments. [[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 12:41, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Liberal? ==

Why does everyone claim he is a hard core Liberal? Other books he likes include Ayn Rand's first novel We the People and Hitler's Mein Kampf. He also wants a return to the gold exchange, a Libertarian point of view and he even claimed in on--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:05, 10 January 2011 (EST)e of his video's "don't accept federalist laws".

Sign your name please. And also, if you look at [[Hitler]]'s entry here, you will see that Hitler founded the Nazi party on a largely ''socialist'' platform. [[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 11:56, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:Yes, it is well known Hitler had many liberal viewpoints himself. [[User:CarlosMartinez|CarlosMartinez]] 11:58, 10 January 2011 (EST)

:A lot of liberals don't accept federalist laws; a lot of liberals got to have that joint before breakfast; a lot of liberals fail to understand that their liberalism has its roots in [[Fascism]] and [[National Socialism]]; and I'm sure there's some liberals who want the return to the gold standard simply to get their hands on the taxes that go with it. And there are some liberals - even those who come here - who are attempting to play down Loughner's liberalism to the point where he should be treated as just another victim of society. The blame Bush/Palin game is going on right now, courtesy of the liberal left. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 11:59, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Karajou, modern liberalism does not have its foundations in Fascism and Nazism, that is a blatant lie with absolutely no logical evidence or merit, and you are only comparing an ideology you don't agree with to the most destructive, hateful and right wing ideology to grace the face of the planet. I never once attempted to downplay a murderer's ideology, I hope he rots in jail, but with the murder of a federal judge and a little girl he'll most likely be put to death. On the gold standard, the government won't just tax random gold, the money supply and value is based off that of gold. Libertarians love it because it takes power away from central and federal banks. -AdmiralDolphin
:Admiral, please open your mind and avoid [[liberal style]]. Yes it does and you can read all about it on Conservapedia. [[User:CarlosMartinez|CarlosMartinez]] 12:27, 10 January 2011 (EST)

I find it ironic how a conservative wants a liberal to open their mind. And "yes it does" is the most childish argument I’ve ever heard.
:You're wrong, "Admiral"; the connections between fascism and liberalism are documented in this site, and they will be increased. It is you who needs to open your mind. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:49, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Ayn Rand and Mein Kampf are hardly liberal. The first is libertarian and the second fascist. But hey, this is conservapedia, so don't let the facts get in the middle of ideology. [[User:Philny|Philny]] 18:29, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:Nice dig Philny and Mein Kampf isn't liberal, it is....? --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 18:33, 10 January 2011 (EST)
::Since you didn't answer, Mein Kampf came from the head of the National '''Socialist''' German Workers Party. Not much separates liberals from socialists. But hey, you're just trolling so move on.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:05, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:::Because it has the word Socialist it is automatically so, just like the USSR were republics, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is really democratic, and the Republic of the Union of Myanmar is a republic. -AdmiralDolphin

Jared Loughner

2011-01-10T17:47:09Z

AdmiralDolphin:

'''Jared Loughner'''<ref>His full name is Jared Lee Loughner.</ref> is a 22-year-old [[atheist]]ic<ref>In an application for the [[U.S. Army]], Loughner said he had no religious beliefs.</ref> [[liberal]], described by former [[public school]] classmates as a "pothead"<ref>http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/01/jared_loughner_alleged_shooter.php</ref> likely on hallucinogenic drugs,<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09shooter.html Reference to hallucinogens]</ref><ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/us/10shooter.html?partner=rss&emc=rss An additional observation that he could be on drugs]</ref> who is being formally charged with a shooting spree that left 6 dead and 14 injured, including a congresswoman, on January 8, 2011.<ref>addref</ref>

Loughner publicly listed ''[[The Communist Manifesto]]'', Mein Kampf and We the Living by ''[[Ayn Rand]]'' as some of his favorite books.<ref>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/</ref>

Loughner failed a urine drug test when he applied to join the [[U.S. Army]], and was rejected for that reason.<ref>http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/arizona-gunman-rejected-by-us-army-after-failing-drug-test/story-e6frf7jx-1225984952253</ref> But as of January 10, 2011, there has been no release of any drug tests performed on Loughner following the shooting. [[Arizona]] recently passed a law legalizing medical [[marijuana]].<ref>[http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/arizona/article_a7374e8c-07b2-11e0-9b56-001cc4c002e0.html "Schools grapple with medical marijuana policies"]</ref>

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Talk:Jared Loughner

2011-01-10T17:37:55Z

AdmiralDolphin:

Hi, sorry if my edits were along the wrong lines. Advice for future contributions please? [[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 11:34, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:I also am confused why they were removed. I was homeschooled myself and am glad I was by my mother. Carlos

Response to both above: everything in this entry should be limited to well-support facts, without any opinion. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:00, 10 January 2011 (EST)

OK, understood. But I thought that I referenced the leaked Dept. of Homeland Security report? (I know I referenced the Huffington Post - had to hold my nose while doing so!)[[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 12:06, 10 January 2011 (EST)

:That's an insufficient basis for making an allegation in an entry page about someone here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:35, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Liberal? ==

Why does everyone claim he is a hard core Liberal? Other books he likes include Ayn Rand's first novel We the People and Hitler's Mein Kampf. He also wants a return to the gold exchange, a Libertarian point of view and he even claimed in one of his video's "don't accept federalist laws".

Sign your name please. And also, if you look at [[Hitler]]'s entry here, you will see that Hitler founded the Nazi party on a largely ''socialist'' platform. [[User:Sophierabbitte|Sophierabbitte]] 11:56, 10 January 2011 (EST)
:Yes, it is well known Hitler had many liberal viewpoints himself. [[User:CarlosMartinez|CarlosMartinez]] 11:58, 10 January 2011 (EST)

:A lot of liberals don't accept federalist laws; a lot of liberals got to have that joint before breakfast; a lot of liberals fail to understand that their liberalism has its roots in [[Fascism]] and [[National Socialism]]; and I'm sure there's some liberals who want the return to the gold standard simply to get their hands on the taxes that go with it. And there are some liberals - even those who come here - who are attempting to play down Loughner's liberalism to the point where he should be treated as just another victim of society. The blame Bush/Palin game is going on right now, courtesy of the liberal left. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 11:59, 10 January 2011 (EST)

Karajou, modern liberalism does not have its foundations in Fascism and Nazism, that is a blatant lie with absolutely no logical evidence or merit, and you are only comparing an ideology you don't agree with to the most destructive, hateful and right wing ideology to grace the face of the planet. I never once attempted to downplay a murderer's ideology, I hope he rots in jail, but with the murder of a federal judge and a little girl he'll most likely be put to death. On the gold standard, the government won't just tax random gold, the money supply and value is based off that of gold. Libertarians love it because it takes power away from central and federal banks. -AdmiralDolphin
:Admiral, please open your mind and avoid [[liberal style]]. Yes it does and you can read all about it on Conservapedia. [[User:CarlosMartinez|CarlosMartinez]] 12:27, 10 January 2011 (EST)

I find it ironic how a conservative wants a liberal to open their mind. And "yes it does" is the most childish argument I’ve ever heard.

Talk:Jared Loughner

2011-01-10T17:25:47Z

AdmiralDolphin:

Talk:Jared Loughner

2011-01-10T16:49:26Z

AdmiralDolphin: /* Liberal? */ new section