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2011-12-26T16:33:42Z

BLeeser:

{{welcome|sig=--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 11:12, 26 December 2011 (EST)}}

==Founding Fathers==
The Founders chose a calender not based on Chinese years or Jewish years but on the Gregorian calender. That means the birth of this nation, 1776, came just 1776 years after Christ was born. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 11:12, 26 December 2011 (EST)

Excellent, but in terms of actual ''principles'' it was founded on more secular ideas. At least, that's what John Adams thought: "The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion". Are you telling me you know the founding principles of America better than the Founding Fathers? --[[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

User talk:BLeeser

2011-12-26T16:33:07Z

BLeeser:

United States of America

2011-12-26T16:04:56Z

BLeeser: Edited out fallacious claim that America was "founded on Judeo-Christian principles". I don't think the Founding Fathers would agree with that.

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The '''United States of America''' (''conventional short form'': '''United States'''; ''abbreviation'': '''US''' or '''USA'''; sometimes also referred to as '''the States''' or simply as '''America''') is a [[North America|North American]] nation that consists of a federal union of fifty individual states, along with territories and a capital district. Founded originally as 13 colonies in the [[British Empire]], Britain's American colonies broke with the mother country on July 4, 1776 with the [[Declaration of Independence]].<ref>IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776. [http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America], ushistory.org, (Accessed August 2010).</ref> The new nation became recognized as the United States of America following the [[American Revolutionary War|War of Independence]] in 1783. Shortly thereafter, in 1787, the [[United States Constitution]] was written; it remains in effect today. The Americans created political parties and, since abolishing [[slavery]] in a bloody [[American Civil War|civil war]] (1861-65), instituted a form of government guided by the rule of law rather than the desires of a majority of voters. According to the U.S. Constitution written by America's [[Founding Fathers]], the United States is a [[Constitutional Republic]]. It is not a [[Democracy|democracy]].

America's capitalist economy grew rapidly, becoming the largest in the world by the 1870s. During the 19th and 20th centuries, 37 new states were added to the original 13 as the nation expanded across the North American continent and acquired a number of overseas possessions. After defeating Communism in the [[Cold War]], the U.S. emerged as the world's only [[superpower]], boasting the largest economy and most powerful military. It exerts enormous cultural and intellectual influence worldwide, and in return is the target of the enemies of democracy and [[capitalism]].

The capital of the United States of America is [[Washington, DC]].

== People ==
[[File:Php3sfokfPM.jpg|220px|left|At Washington, DC.]]
Population: 310,232,863 (July 2010 est.) Population growth rate: 0.97% (2010 est.) Labor force: 153.9 million (2010 est.).

Ethnic groups: white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate) note: a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic <ref> [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html CIA - The World Factbook.] </ref>

In 2010, around 400,000 [[illegal immigrants]] were deported. The Pew Hispanic Center, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington, estimates 11.5 million to 12 million "unauthorized migrants" live in the US today. <ref> [http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0516/p01s02-ussc.html Illegal immigrants in the US: How many are there?] </ref>

==Geography==

[[File:Colorado.jpg|thumb|[[Colorado]].]]
North America, bordering both the North [[Atlantic Ocean]] and the North [[Pacific Ocean]], is between [[Canada]] and [[Mexico]]. In addition to the boundaries of the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean, the United States is otherwise bounded by the [[Bering Sea]], the Arctic Ocean, the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. Two of the fifty states, Alaska and Hawaii (an archipelago), are not contiguous with any of the other states. Puerto Rico, which is largely self governing, is part of the U.S., as are several smaller territories in the Pacific Ocean, such as Guam. Each of the 50 states has a large degree of sovereignty, but the boundaries are debated and shift slightly every year.

At over 3.7 million square miles (over 9.6 million km²), the U.S. (including its non-contiguous and overseas states and territories) is the third largest country by total area (after Russia and Canada). It is the world's third most populous nation, with over 350 million people (after China and India).

Mt. McKinley is highest point in North America and Death Valley the lowest point on the continent. <ref>[https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html CIA World Factbook], ''North America :: United States'', Updated on February 23, 2011, (Accessed on February 23, 2011).</ref>

==History==

===American Revolution===
{{main|American Revolution}}
[[File:Washington-deleware.jpg|thumb|left|Washington, Chief of the Continental Army, is shown crossing the Delaware River.]]
The American Revolution exploded from fears the British Empire was trying to restrict the historic rights and liberties of Americans. The British victory in the French and Indian War ended the threat that foreign powers might attack the colonies; Britain's protection was no longer needed. At the same time Britain decided to assert its powers by imposing [[taxes]]. The taxes (as on stamps, sugar, and tea) were not large but the principle was simple: Americans insisted their own [[Legislature|legislatures]] could impose taxes but not [[Parliament]], because Americans were not represented there. "No taxation without representation!" and "[[Don't tread on me]]" became common phrases in America by the American people, but the British refused over and over again to accept it. London sent in troops when Boston protested vehemently, and Americans organized shadow governments in every colony.

The Americans were adopting a new political philosophy, called [[republicanism]], which stressed civic virtue, fear of corruption, and disdain for [[aristocracy]] (there were no aristocrats in America apart from occasional British visitors). Republicanism alerted Americans to their constitutional rights as Englishmen – one right was that the people, through their elected officials, set the taxes and upheld law. Constitutionally, to Americans their "elected officials" were not represented in the British Parliament, it meant having their own colonial legislatures. The British replied haughtily toward this desire from the Americans, going so far as to suggest America was "virtually represented" by the British Parliament in some way or form.

====Boston Tea Party====
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The British Parliaments idea of representation in America fueled their desire to increase taxes on the Americans. The tax on stamps in 1765 incited near rebellion, as the 13 separate colonies began meeting together and sharing their grievances. The stamp tax was repealed but others followed, especially the tax on tea. In response, Americans boycotted tea and merchants refused to order it, except in Boston. There, a well-organized group of patriots dumped the tea in the harbor, historically known as the [[Boston Tea Party]]. These events infuriated London, so they sent troops to North America and stripped [[Massachusetts]] of its self government and suspended the historic rights the colonists were so proud of.

====Thirteen Colonies====
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The thirteen original colonies began organizing shadow governments, called "Committees of Correspondence," which prepared the Americans for the day "patriots" (or "Whigs," as they called themselves) could assume all functions of local government. That day came when the British sent troops from Boston to seize gunpowder in attempt to dismantle a potential revolt, and the American patriots gathered there to defend their liberty. These patriots were known as the American "Minute men," a well trained militia, and had planned for this day at Lexington and Concord. When the militia clashed with the elite British troops they soundly defeated them, prompting an historic backlash from Britain. The American Revolution had begun.

The thirteen colonies, organized as the "[[First Continental Congress]]," became a national government as the shadow governments in each colony took control and ousted all royal officials. Congress set up a [[Continental Army]] and gave command to an American hero and Virginia's leader, [[George Washington]]. George Washington took charge in Boston, and he forced the British to leave in the spring of 1776. All 13 colonies were at this point in control of the American Patriots, and they listened as [[Tom Paine]] explained ''Common Sense'' principles, proudly boasting of America's strength and its power as a new nation. America, in its own right as an individual nation no longer needed nor wanted a foreign [[King]]. Congress called on the colonies to become States and to write new State constitutions. On July 4, 1776, Congress unanimously declared the independence of a new nation, the United States of America.

====France in the American Revolutionary War====
[[File:Marquis de Lafayette.jpg|thumb|[[Marquis de Lafayette]].]]
King [[George III]] could not abide the insolent Americans and he sent his small army and large navy to America in attempt to reconquer his lost colonies. They were able to recapture [[New York City]], but the King's failure to spread elsewhere greatly outweighed this small victory. The powerful Royal navy gave the British command of the seas and the ability to land troops anywhere and capture any specific place, but the shortage of British soldiers, and the very long 3000 mile supply line, meant that the British could only hold a few points at any one time. Hiring German soldiers (Hessians) was necessary, but they were not enough, for the Patriots always had more available soldiers. The British expectations that Loyalist would rise up and overthrow the Patriots was a [[chimera]]; the Loyalists did provide some help to British invasion forces, but were never strong enough to operate on their own or control any territory.

[[France]], humiliated by Britain in the 1760s, was stronger in the late 1770's than it was a decade earlier and wanted revenge against the British for their past woes. Thus, the French secretly armed and financed the Americans. Lafayette, a French general in the American Revolutionary War, served in the Continental Army under George Washington. He convinced France to send their first naval and land forces to the Americas and participated in defending Richmond, Virginia from Benedict Arnold and in the battle of Yorktown, Virginia; Lafayette contributed in no slight degree toward the grand result.

In 1777, the British sent a large army to invade [[New York]] and cut off the revolutionary states of [[New England]]. The plan was a disaster as the American militia captured the entire British invasion force at Saratoga. Encouraged by diplomat [[Benjamin Franklin]], the French recognized the United States as an independent nation, signed a treaty of alliance, and entered the war against Britain. Later, the treaty extended to [[Spain]] and the [[Netherlands]] as allies to America; Britain's diplomacy was disjointed that it had no allies at all, and was militarily matched or surpassed by America and its new allies. The British invasion of the South in 1780-81 was designed to bring out Loyalist support, but it failed and the second major British army was captured at the [[Battle of Yorktown]]. The British Parliament revolted at their reckless king and his incompetent government and sued for peace, which was achieved on terms favorable to the U.S. in 1783. About 20% of the Loyalists moved to [[Canada]], but many stayed in America, and the new peaceful nation resumed its rapid growth.

===New Nation===

In 1783, when the Treaty of Paris concluded the war of independence, the American population totalled some three million citizens and slaves living on about one million square miles of land. Tens of thousands of [[Native Americans]] also lived in the [[Northwest Territory]] and the Southwest.

The Thirteen original states are [[Connecticut]], [[Delaware]], [[Georgia]], [[Maryland]], [[Massachusetts]] (including [[maine]]), [[New Hampshire]], [[New Jersey]], [[New York]], [[North Carolina]], [[Pennsylvania]], [[Rhode Island]], [[South Carolina]] and [[Virginia]]. In 1790, an agreement between supporters of Jefferson and those of [[Alexander Hamilton]] resulted in the creation of the [[District of Columbia]] from part of [[Maryland]]; it has served as the national capital since 1800. The remainder of the 1783 territory was eventually organized as the states of [[Ohio]], [[Indiana]], [[Michigan]], [[Illinois]], [[Wisconsin]], [[Kentucky]], [[Tennessee]], [[Mississippi]] and [[Alabama]].

===Expansion===
[[File:U.S. Territorial Acquisitions PD WC.jpg|thumb|left|Territorial acquisitions such as the Thirteen Colonies, the Louisiana Purchase, and British and Spanish Cession.]]
In 1803, [[French]] emperor [[Napoleon Bonaparte]] took advantage of a lull in his war with Great Britain to sell the [[Louisiana Territory]] to the United States, more than doubling the nation's land area. This territory would later be organized as the states of [[Minnesota]], [[North Dakota]], [[South Dakota]], [[Montana]], [[Wyoming]], [[Nebraska]], [[Iowa]], [[Missouri]], [[Arkansas]], [[Kansas]], [[Oklahoma]], and [[Louisiana]] proper. President Jefferson commissioned [[Lewis and Clark]] to explore the new territory from 1802 to 1804.

The U.S. seized, then purchased [[Florida]] from Spain in 1819. [[Texas]] joined the United States in 1845 after winning its revolution against Mexico.
[[File:Map Leading Group by County US.jpg|thumb|Map Leading Group by County, 2000.]]
After victory the [[Mexican American War]] of 1846-48, the U.S. purchased via the [[Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo]] territory that became the states of [[California]], [[Nevada]], [[Utah]], [[Colorado]], [[New Mexico]] and [[Arizona]]. In 1846 the U.S. and Britain agreed that the 49th Parallel (degree of latitude) would serve as the boundary between the U. S. and [[British Columbia]] (now part of Canada). The American portion became the states of [[Washington]], [[Oregon]] and [[Idaho]].

In 1867, the U.S. purchased [[Alaska]] from [[Russia]]. It became a state in 1959.

Hawaii became an independent republic in 1894 and voluntarily joined the U.S. in 1898, becoming a state in 1960.

As a result of the [[Spanish-American War]], the United States took control of the [[Philippines]] and annexed [[Puerto Rico]] and [[Guam]]. The Philippines became independent in 1946, after the U.S. reconquered the islands from Japan in World War II. [[Puerto Rico]] has occasionally held referendum that ratified its continuing unique "Commonwealth" status as part of the United States. The residents of Puerto Rico are U.S. citizens. Guam continues as a U.S. owned territory with full citizenship for its inhabitants. The people of Puerto Rico and Guam have a vote in presidential primaries and a voice, but not a vote, in Congress.

==The Constitution and Politics in the United States==

[[Image:76485685i79.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The drafting committee presenting the [[Declaration of Independence]] to the [[Continental Congress]], painted by John Trumbull 1817–1819.]]

Between 1776 and 1788, the United States was governed according to the [[Articles of Confederation]]. The Founding Fathers formally established the current structure of the United States by ratification of the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1788. Since 1789, that constitution has been the basic governing document. America's Founding Fathers understood that a democracy is always in flux and given to “mob rule,”<ref>[[Michelle Malkin]]. [http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/27/the-coming-g20-riots-the-spread-of-mob-rule/comment-page-1/ The coming G20 riots & the spread of mob rule], ''Michelle Malkin'', March 27, 2009.</ref> while a republic is fixed and stable, resting on “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” Because of the uncertainty of democracy, [[Benjamin Rush]] — a signer of the Declaration of Independence — wrote: “A simple democracy is one of the greatest of evils.”<ref>AWR Hawkins. [http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/america-a-republic-not-a-democracy/ America: A Republic, Not a Democracy], ''Pajamas Media'', September 03, 2009.</ref>

Sovereignty in America comes from the citizenry, and the basic political values are called "[[republicanism]]," (not to be confused with the [[Republican Party]],) especially the commitment to civic virtue and civic duty, and opposition to corruption and aristocracy. Popular political parties emerged in the United States in the 1790s; currently the two major political parties are the [[Democratic Party]], and the [[Republican Party]]. Minor parties are of little importance overall but can be useful in pushing certain topics to the public eye.

=== The Role of Religion in Government ===
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==Government==
{{main|United States Federal Government}}

[[Image:56eugyjnm.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The [[White House]], the official home and workplace of the [[President of the United States]] of America.]]

===Executive Branch===

*Chief of state: The [[President of the United States]] is both the chief of state and head of government
*Head of government: President of the United States; [[Vice President of the United States]]
*Cabinet: Cabinet appointed by the president with Senate approval
*Elections: The president and vice president serve four-year terms (eligible for a second term)

===Legislative Branch===

The United States legislative branch of government is a [[bicameral]] Congress, which consists of the [[United States Senate|Senate]] (100 seats, 2 members are elected from each state by popular vote to serve six-year terms; one-third are elected every two years) and the [[House of Representatives]] (435 seats; members are directly elected by popular vote to serve two-year terms).

===Judicial Branch===
{{main|Supreme Court of the United States}}

The United States [[Supreme Court]] consists of nine justices, nominated by the president and confirmed with the advice and consent of the Senate. Members of the Supreme Court are appointed to serve for life; the judicial branch extends to the United States Courts of Appeal, the United States District Courts, and State and County Courts. The primary role of the nine justices of the Supreme Court is to assure the United States government does not attempt to surrender, sell or transfer the people's unalienable rights given by [[God]]. The Supreme Court has the power to consider the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress.

== Economy ==

The US has the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world, with a per capita GDP of $47,400. In this market-oriented economy, private individuals and business firms make most of the decisions, and the federal and state governments buy needed goods and services predominantly in the private marketplace. US business firms enjoy greater flexibility than their counterparts in Western Europe and Japan in decisions to expand capital plant, to lay off surplus workers, and to develop new products. At the same time, they face higher barriers to enter their rivals' home markets than foreign firms face entering US markets. US firms are at or near the forefront in technological advances, especially in computers and in medical, aerospace, and military equipment; their advantage has narrowed since the end of World War II. The onrush of technology largely explains the gradual development of a "two-tier labor market" in which those at the bottom lack the education and the professional/technical skills of those at the top and, more and more, fail to get comparable pay raises, health insurance coverage, and other benefits. Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. The war in March-April 2003 between a US-led coalition and Iraq, and the subsequent occupation of Iraq, required major shifts in national resources to the military. Soaring oil prices between 2005 and the first half of 2008 threatened inflation and unemployment, as higher gasoline prices ate into consumers' budgets. Imported oil accounts for about 60% of US consumption. Long-term problems include inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, sizable trade and budget deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups. The merchandise trade deficit reached a record $840 billion in 2008 before shrinking to $506 billion in 2009, and ramping back up to $630 billion in 2010. The global economic downturn, the sub-prime mortgage crisis, investment bank failures, falling home prices, and tight credit pushed the United States into a recession by mid-2008. GDP contracted until the third quarter of 2009, making this the deepest and longest downturn since the Great Depression. To help stabilize financial markets, the US Congress established a $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in October 2008. The government used some of these funds to purchase equity in US banks and other industrial corporations, much of which had been returned to the government by early 2011. In January 2009 the US Congress passed and President Barack Obama signed a bill providing an additional $787 billion fiscal stimulus to be used over 10 years - two-thirds on additional spending and one-third on tax cuts - to create jobs and to help the economy recover. Approximately two-thirds of these funds were injected into the economy by the end of 2010. In March 2010, President Obama signed a health insurance reform bill into law that will extend coverage to an additional 32 million American citizens by 2016, through private health insurance for the general population and Medicaid for the impoverished. In July 2010, the president signed the DODD-FRANK Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, a bill designed to promote financial stability by protecting consumers from financial abuses, ending taxpayer bailouts of financial firms, dealing with troubled banks that are "too big to fail," and improving accountability and transparency in the financial system - in particular, by requiring certain financial derivatives to be traded in markets that are subject to government regulation and oversight. In November 2010, in an attempt to keep interest rates from rising and snuffing out the nascent recovery, the US Federal Reserve Bank (The Fed) announced that it would purchase $600 billion worth of US Government bonds by June 2011.

Leading industrial power in the world, highly diversified and technologically advanced; [[petroleum]], [[steel]], motor vehicles, aerospace, telecommunications, chemicals, [[electronics]], food processing, consumer goods, lumber, mining.
<ref>[https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html CIA - The world Factbook]</ref>

==Flag Description==
[[Image:50 star flag.png|left|thumb|150px|The [[Flag of the United States of America]]]]
{{main|Flag of the United States of America}}

Thirteen equal horizontal stripes of red (top and bottom) alternating with white; there is a blue rectangle in the upper hoist-side corner bearing 50 small, white, five-pointed stars arranged in nine offset horizontal rows of six stars (top and bottom) alternating with rows of five stars; the 50 stars represent the 50 states, the 13 stripes represent the 13 original colonies; known as Old Glory; the design and colors have been the basis for a number of other flags, including [[Chile]], [[Liberia]], [[Malaysia]], and [[Puerto Rico]].

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==References==
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== See also==
[[File:Lawrence The Migration of the Negro.jpg|thumb|The Migration of the Negro by [[Jacob Lawrence]], 1940-1941.]]
*[[Pledge of Allegiance]]
*[[Famous American artists]]
*[[List of 50 states]]
*[[Americas]]
*[[America (continent)]]
*[[Columbia]]
*[[Gallery of American Masterpieces]]

==External links==
*[[CIA]] - [https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html The World FactBook]
*[http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/616563/United-States United States.]
*[http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/america.htm America]
*[http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/flags_of_us_states.htm Flags of the U.S. States]
*[http://www.pibmug.com/files/map_test.swf Interactive map test of the 50 U.S. states]
*[http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h445.html U.S. History]
*[http://www.theroot.com/buzz/who-owns-united-states Who Owns the United States?]
*[http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html Wealth, Income, and Power.] by G. William Domhoff, University of California Santa Cruz.

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2011-09-12T20:56:57Z

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Friedrich Nietzsche

2011-07-20T23:43:24Z

BLeeser:

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'''Friedrich Nietzsche''' (1844-1900) was a [[Germany|German]] [[atheism|atheist]] [[philosopher]] whose work set a foundation for the [[existentialism|existentialist]] movement of the 1900s.<ref>[http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/ Stanford's Biography on Nietzsche].</ref> Nietzsche went mad and suffered a mental breakdown, from which he never recovered.

Nietzsche was critical of [[religion]] in general, though especially [[Christianity]], which he described as the "religion of pity."<ref>[http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Friedrich_Nietzsche/ Nietzsche Quotations]</ref> Nietzsche is perhaps most famous for his declaration that “God is dead,” which suggests that since Christian morality views worldly pleasures as immoral, to accept Christianity is to deny life - therefore, God (a personification of Christian principles) is figuratively dead. Furthermore, he postulated that the Christian Heaven, a metaphysical "true world" beyond the reach of the human senses, devalued the physical world that we live in. In this sense, he accused Christianity of nihilism. He also suggested that Western culture seemed no longer rooted in Christian dogmatism and a faith-based worldview. Without [[God]], the idea of absolutes are difficult to come by, and Nietzsche thus suggested ways for people to cope with this loss of "[[Good]]" and "[[Evil]]".

{{cquote|When [[Adolf Hitler]] first met [[Benito Mussolini]], he presented him with a gift of the collected works of Nietzsche. It was an appropriate memento. Hitler's ideas about life and politics were largely derived from Nietzsche. Hitler subscribed to the Nietzschean idea that superior people have an inborn right to rule. - [[William Kilpatrick]]}}

Nietzsche suffered a mental collapse in 1889, and spent the last ten years of his life unable to care for himself. During this time, his sister Elizabeth Förster-Nietzsche took over his affairs, and worked to falsify and re-edit his writings in order to support her virulent Antisemitism (a view which Nietzsche arguably abhorred, and often mocked, during his lifetime). It was her distorted version of culled and misquoted statements which later provided an intellectual fig leaf for the [[Nazi]]s and [[Italian]] [[Fascist]]s.

The ''Übermensch'' (overhuman, superhuman) was a literary device used in his magnum opus, "[[Thus Spoke Zarathustra]]". The Overman was to be a new kind of being which would overcome resentment and affirm the Eternal Recurrence of the same.

The statement "God is dead" first appeared in Nietzsche's "[[The Gay Science]]", in Aphorism 108, titled "New Struggles". This aphorism introduces Nietzsche's famous Madman, who runs out into the street shouting, "God is dead!" Yet, to his dismay, the Madman sees "he has come too soon," for people have not realized this cultural revelation for themselves and are blind to it. They consider the Madman's seemingly theological claim as absurd for they misunderstand him; it is no argument about the existence of God, but a claim of how [[secular]] society has become. Nietzsche was no friend to Christian beliefs, and no doubt considered the Christian God to be a mere myth. This passage shows his hope for a [[philosophy]] of the future, one he imagined would be emptied of coarse objective rationalizing, which he characterized as God and associated with Christianity. Nietzsche, in other words, felt his message of subjective truth came too soon and hoped, as the Madman, that he would be understood someday.

Nietzsche's father Carl Ludwig Nietzsche, was a [[Lutheran]] pastor.

In his first Papal Encyclical, "Deus Caritas Est" (God is Charity/Love) [[Pope Benedict XVI]] quotes from Nietzsche's ''Beyond Good and Evil'', taking very seriously Nietzsche's claim that the Church has poisoned ''eros'' (love) with dogma, and responding to it.

== Nietzsche's Insanity ==
Currently, there is an ongoing debate on whether Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity was caused purely through disease or whether his atheistic/[[nihilism|nihilistic]] philosophical outlook on life was the cause.<ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17881977</ref><ref>http://www.ukapologetics.net/truthaboutnietzsche.html</ref><ref>http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/hutchison/070307</ref><ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17087793?dopt=Abstract</ref><ref>http://www.leonardsax.com/Nietzsche.pdf</ref><ref name="hkbu">http://www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ppp/top/top19</ref><ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=x4qDrNKVC5gC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=Ren%C3%A9+Girard+nietzsche+and+madness&source=bl&ots=DQFLJpqjJd&sig=mXNq_6J6_qTciP2vW-FHojwBn20&hl=en&ei=hv99Sp0Y2YG2B8Ogsf4B&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false</ref>
An article published on the Hong Kong Baptist University declares:
{{cquote|Trying to explain what caused his insanity can only be a matter of speculation. Some people believe it was the result of a physical illness. Others interpret his suffering as that of a true prophet, almost as if he were accepting the punishment on behalf of those who could not see mankind's tendency towards self-destruction so clearly. Still others regard his final fate as a natural outcome of his philosophical outlook.<ref name="hkbu">http://www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ppp/top/top19</ref>}}

The Russian-born psychoanalyst and writer Lou Andreas-Salomé, who had a brief and tempestuous affair with Nietzsche, believed that Nietzsche's philosophy can be viewed as a reflection of his psychology and that his madness was the result of his philosophizing.<ref>http://www.amazon.com/Nietzsche-Lou-Salome/dp/0252070356</ref> In addition, the French historian René Girard asserted that Nietzsche's philosophy led to his insanity.<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=x4qDrNKVC5gC&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61&dq=Ren%C3%A9+Girard+nietzsche+and+madness&source=bl&ots=DQFLJpqjJd&sig=mXNq_6J6_qTciP2vW-FHojwBn20&hl=en&ei=hv99Sp0Y2YG2B8Ogsf4B&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false</ref>

==On Morality==
Friedrich Nietzsche argued that [[rational egalitarianism]] denies [[creativity]], and reason cannot create values and [[morality]], attempt to do so would only lead to [[nihilism]]. Therefore morality has been imposed.

Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "Morality is the herd-instinct in the individual.", "With morality, the individual can only ascribe value to himself as a function of the herd", "I submit that egoism belongs to the essence of a noble soul ... and has its basis in the primary law of things", "all morality is partisan; just as any legal system will favor certain behavior against others", "who else should we wish to serve, if not ourselves?" and "Whoever battles monsters should take care not to become a monster too, for if you stare long enough into the Abyss, the Abyss stares back into you."

==On Science and Knowledge==
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "I mistrust all systemizers and avoid them; the will to systematize is a lack of integrity", "there is no pre-established harmony between the furtherance of truth and the well-being of mankind", "the free-spirit is brought into disrepute chiefly by scholars who miss their thoroughness and ant-like industry in his art of regarding things", "there are many things I do not wish to know, wisdom sets a limit on knowledge too", "the fact that science as we practice it today is possible proves that the elementary instinct which protect life have ceased to function", "we have arranged for ourselves a world in which we are able to live with postulation of bodies, lines, surfaces, causes, and effects, motion and rest, form and content: without these articles of faith, nobody could manage to live", "the irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition for it", "[too much knowledge causes us to] choke on our own reason", "creed of nihilism which I see everywhere is the result of too much learning" and "Any truth which threatens life is no truth at all, it is an error".

==On Politics==
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "As a political subject, it is an illusion to ask myself what I require from the state. In reality, it is a question of what the state requires from me", "culture and the state are antagonistic", "clearly, the individual will is forfeit to the demands of government - a kind of political Darwinism. The herd triumphs again, this time under the banner of the state", "socialism is the fantastic younger brother of an almost decrepit despotism, which it wants to succeeded", "the doctrine of free will is an invention of the ruling classes" and "madness is something rare in individuals; but in groups, parties, ages, it is the rule".

==On Women==
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "Women are essentially unpeaceful" and "Man is for woman a means; the purpose is always a child. But what is woman for man?"

==On Philosophy==
Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "Philosophy is the dressing-up in rational argument of moral beliefs, intuitions and desires".

==On Religion==
Friedrich Nietzsche was born to a long line of Protestant Lutheran ministers. His grandfather, Friedrich August Ludwig Nietzsche, was in fact an established Protestant scholar whose writings argued the “everlasting survival of Christianity.” From an early age Friedrich Nietzsche maintained a dedication to Lutheranism and continued his passion for theology in university. In the year 1864, Nietzsche entered the University of Bonn as a theology and philology student with a particular interest in the translation and interpretation of Biblical texts. Nietzsche's views on religion are scattered amongst his earliest works in the 1860s well up until the time of his death in 1889. As such, his views concerning religion, morality, and human nature are not outlined definitively and are thus the subject of scholarly debate.

However, Nietzsche spoke out against Islam citing that it was a force subsisting wholly on the denial of the individual. He posed in his work "The Birth of Tragedy" that Islam (among other religions) utilizes the restriction of necessary human desires such as love as a means of securing their permanence as a force of control.

Thus Friedrich Nietzsche viewed [[Mohammed]], [[Buddha]], [[Homer]] etc, not as religious figures, but as creators of rigid moral frameworks, who lost their authority as [[Europe]] severed ties with its diverse religious tradition.

==See Also==
*[[Nihilism]]

==References==
<references/>
*[https://www.dartmouth.edu/~fnchron/index.html Nietzsche Chronicle]
*[http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/452786.html Nietzsche: The Problem of Autumn]
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=816224 "The Case for Nietzschean Moral Psychology"]
*[http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html#_ftnref1 ''Deus Caritas Est'', from the Vatican website]
*[http://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Nietzsche-Third-Introducing-Laurence/dp/1840466278/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-5268663-4749443?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179639544&sr=1-1 Introducing Nietzsche, Third Edition by Laurence Gane]

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[[Category:Children of Clergy]]

Talk:Divorce

2011-02-27T23:01:00Z

BLeeser:

==I find this article offensive==
I find the line "Divorce affects more than the spouses; it also causes pain for any children from the marriage where the non-custodial parent is often seen less often or in some cases not at all. It is common for children to blame themselves for the divorce. Relationship difficulties for the children are especially common into later life if either of the parents is poisoning the relationship with the children for the other by making negative comments to the kids." I am the child of a divorced couple and I do not appreciate the view that my parents' divorce will somehow make me grow up emotionally challenged. I do not blame myself for the divorce. Trust me, if my parents did not get a divorce, life would be a lot worse for all three of us - the preceding year to the divorce was complete agony. They were arguing all the time, and I, personally, am glad that they don't have to do that anymore. The divorce has given them great relief, as they no longer have to live with people they hate, and it has also given ''me'' great relief, as I no longer have to watch the two most important people in my life screaming at each other. I suggest the line be removed from the article. -[[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

:Can you imagine what would be left in the [[Bible]] if someone could demand the removal of anything he said offended him? Not much.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:46, 27 February 2011 (EST)
::I don't recall the Bible ever telling me I will grow up mentally instable. Unlike you, Mr. Schlafly, I am an actual child of divorcees, so I think I have the monopoly of knowledge on how divorcee children feel after divorces. -- [[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

==Biblical view==
I don't understand the position in the "Biblical view" section. Is it really claiming that '''divorce''' is adultery and thus a sin, or that sex/marriage '''after''' divorce is adultery, that the divorce didn't change anything, and that therefore the divorced couple are still married in the eyes of God? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 03:57, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:I am not gonna touch this with 10 foot pole. However, what is the Church's view? often the Church's view and the Bible's view don't quite synch up. I'd be more inclined to take the Church's stance over the Bible's, as it's probably more up to date.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:58, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:: Up to date? Its holy writ. Nothing short of the second coming is going to change the instructions in the bible. If the Church, an instutition of Man, says something that contradicts the divine authority of the earthly incarnation of God Himself... then the church must be wrong, and that is that. The bible forbids all divorce with one possible narrow exception, and claiming otherwise does not change that. - BornAgainBrit
:::No offense, but if the bible is that clear cut, then why do we still have the Church? Why bother going to church if I can just get the information out of my Bible? The Bible was written by men, and it portrays the cultural biases of those men. Don't get me wrong, it is probably the best moral guidelines ever created and has laid the foundations for Western Society. However, it is not infallible. This is why I have a problem with non-nondenominational churches and biblical fundamentalism. To believe the Bible is the book of the Teachings of Jesus is fine, to believe it is a wonderful guideline for how to live one's life is fine. To suggest that everything written in it is divine truth without any bias interjected by those who wrote it is gullibility. To believe that path will only lead you to become a evil hate monger like Fred Phelps.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 00:06, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Wouldn't than be rather depandant on which church we're talking about? [[User:What|What]]
: The Church (with a capital "C") almost always refers to the Roman Catholic Church. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 04:10, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, I thought conservatives where mainly Protestants... [[User:What|What]]

:::?????? !!!!!! I'm sure that will come as surprise to a ''lot'' of Roman Catholics. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, mainly was a strong word, wasn't actually what I meant, but I reda somewhere that in 2000 63 % of the votes for Bush was protestant and 26 % of them catholic. If that is in anyway representative, wouldn't it be wrong to use the view of the catholic church as a norm in this case? [[User:What|What]]

:Fine, but nobody has answered the question: Is that section of this article claiming that the Bible says that '''divorce''' is a sin of adultery, or that sex after divorce is still adultery, the same as it was before the divorce? The section quotes an unspecified translation of the Bible, and does not cite any church teaching or Bible commentary for its opinions. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

::Here is a better question, the Bible says you shouldn't have sex with someone before marriage. So if you have sex with someone you never intend to marry, is ok then? (this is obviously a joke)--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 21:48, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

I have trouble with the conclusions drawn in this article in regard to divorce is always wrong and Matthew's allowance for marital unfaithfulness doesn't really mean that. I would prefer we simply show that there are 2 different views and not necessarily point to one being right and the other being wrong. Christians, good Christians, can have different views on this matter. Would that be ok with everyone, or would I be stepping on someone's toes? Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:54, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==More data added==
I came across this doing a Google search on major denomination position on divorce (i think) and found it rather lacking. It seems to have been that way for some time, so i researched and added more info and did some formatting, by the grace of God. What think ye? It needs more formatting, at least.[[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 20:10, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Divorce

2011-02-27T22:56:28Z

BLeeser:

==I find this article offensive==
I find the line "Divorce affects more than the spouses; it also causes pain for any children from the marriage where the non-custodial parent is often seen less often or in some cases not at all. It is common for children to blame themselves for the divorce. Relationship difficulties for the children are especially common into later life if either of the parents is poisoning the relationship with the children for the other by making negative comments to the kids." I am the child of a divorced couple and I do not appreciate the view that my parents' divorce will somehow make me grow up emotionally challenged. I do not blame myself for the divorce. Trust me, if my parents did not get a divorce, life would be a lot worse for all three of us - the preceding year to the divorce was complete agony. They were arguing all the time, and I, personally, am glad that they don't have to do that anymore. The divorce has given them great relief, as they no longer have to live with people they hate, and it has also given ''me'' great relief, as I no longer have to watch the two most important people in my life screaming at each other. I suggest the line be removed from the article. -[[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

:Can you imagine what would be left in the [[Bible]] if someone could demand the removal of anything he said offended him? Not much.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:46, 27 February 2011 (EST)
::I don't recall the Bible ever telling me I will grow up mentally instable. Unlike you, Mr. Schlafy, I am an actual child of divorcees, so I think I have the monopoly of knowledge on how divorcee children feel after divorces. -- [[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

==Biblical view==
I don't understand the position in the "Biblical view" section. Is it really claiming that '''divorce''' is adultery and thus a sin, or that sex/marriage '''after''' divorce is adultery, that the divorce didn't change anything, and that therefore the divorced couple are still married in the eyes of God? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 03:57, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:I am not gonna touch this with 10 foot pole. However, what is the Church's view? often the Church's view and the Bible's view don't quite synch up. I'd be more inclined to take the Church's stance over the Bible's, as it's probably more up to date.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:58, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:: Up to date? Its holy writ. Nothing short of the second coming is going to change the instructions in the bible. If the Church, an instutition of Man, says something that contradicts the divine authority of the earthly incarnation of God Himself... then the church must be wrong, and that is that. The bible forbids all divorce with one possible narrow exception, and claiming otherwise does not change that. - BornAgainBrit
:::No offense, but if the bible is that clear cut, then why do we still have the Church? Why bother going to church if I can just get the information out of my Bible? The Bible was written by men, and it portrays the cultural biases of those men. Don't get me wrong, it is probably the best moral guidelines ever created and has laid the foundations for Western Society. However, it is not infallible. This is why I have a problem with non-nondenominational churches and biblical fundamentalism. To believe the Bible is the book of the Teachings of Jesus is fine, to believe it is a wonderful guideline for how to live one's life is fine. To suggest that everything written in it is divine truth without any bias interjected by those who wrote it is gullibility. To believe that path will only lead you to become a evil hate monger like Fred Phelps.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 00:06, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Wouldn't than be rather depandant on which church we're talking about? [[User:What|What]]
: The Church (with a capital "C") almost always refers to the Roman Catholic Church. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 04:10, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, I thought conservatives where mainly Protestants... [[User:What|What]]

:::?????? !!!!!! I'm sure that will come as surprise to a ''lot'' of Roman Catholics. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, mainly was a strong word, wasn't actually what I meant, but I reda somewhere that in 2000 63 % of the votes for Bush was protestant and 26 % of them catholic. If that is in anyway representative, wouldn't it be wrong to use the view of the catholic church as a norm in this case? [[User:What|What]]

:Fine, but nobody has answered the question: Is that section of this article claiming that the Bible says that '''divorce''' is a sin of adultery, or that sex after divorce is still adultery, the same as it was before the divorce? The section quotes an unspecified translation of the Bible, and does not cite any church teaching or Bible commentary for its opinions. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

::Here is a better question, the Bible says you shouldn't have sex with someone before marriage. So if you have sex with someone you never intend to marry, is ok then? (this is obviously a joke)--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 21:48, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

I have trouble with the conclusions drawn in this article in regard to divorce is always wrong and Matthew's allowance for marital unfaithfulness doesn't really mean that. I would prefer we simply show that there are 2 different views and not necessarily point to one being right and the other being wrong. Christians, good Christians, can have different views on this matter. Would that be ok with everyone, or would I be stepping on someone's toes? Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:54, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==More data added==
I came across this doing a Google search on major denomination position on divorce (i think) and found it rather lacking. It seems to have been that way for some time, so i researched and added more info and did some formatting, by the grace of God. What think ye? It needs more formatting, at least.[[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 20:10, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

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2011-02-27T22:48:03Z

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Talk:Divorce

2011-02-27T22:28:12Z

BLeeser:

==I find this article offensive==
I find the line "Divorce affects more than the spouses; it also causes pain for any children from the marriage where the non-custodial parent is often seen less often or in some cases not at all. It is common for children to blame themselves for the divorce. Relationship difficulties for the children are especially common into later life if either of the parents is poisoning the relationship with the children for the other by making negative comments to the kids." I am the child of a divorced couple and I do not appreciate the view that my parents' divorce will somehow make me grow up emotionally challenged. I do not blame myself for the divorce. Trust me, if my parents did not get a divorce, life would be a lot worse for all three of us - the preceding year to the divorce was complete agony. They were arguing all the time, and I, personally, am glad that they don't have to do that anymore. The divorce has given them great relief, as they no longer have to live with people they hate, and it has also given ''me'' great relief, as I no longer have to watch the two most important people in my life screaming at each other. I suggest the line be removed from the article. -[[User:BLeeser|BLeeser]]

==Biblical view==
I don't understand the position in the "Biblical view" section. Is it really claiming that '''divorce''' is adultery and thus a sin, or that sex/marriage '''after''' divorce is adultery, that the divorce didn't change anything, and that therefore the divorced couple are still married in the eyes of God? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 03:57, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:I am not gonna touch this with 10 foot pole. However, what is the Church's view? often the Church's view and the Bible's view don't quite synch up. I'd be more inclined to take the Church's stance over the Bible's, as it's probably more up to date.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:58, 20 March 2007 (EDT)
:: Up to date? Its holy writ. Nothing short of the second coming is going to change the instructions in the bible. If the Church, an instutition of Man, says something that contradicts the divine authority of the earthly incarnation of God Himself... then the church must be wrong, and that is that. The bible forbids all divorce with one possible narrow exception, and claiming otherwise does not change that. - BornAgainBrit
:::No offense, but if the bible is that clear cut, then why do we still have the Church? Why bother going to church if I can just get the information out of my Bible? The Bible was written by men, and it portrays the cultural biases of those men. Don't get me wrong, it is probably the best moral guidelines ever created and has laid the foundations for Western Society. However, it is not infallible. This is why I have a problem with non-nondenominational churches and biblical fundamentalism. To believe the Bible is the book of the Teachings of Jesus is fine, to believe it is a wonderful guideline for how to live one's life is fine. To suggest that everything written in it is divine truth without any bias interjected by those who wrote it is gullibility. To believe that path will only lead you to become a evil hate monger like Fred Phelps.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 00:06, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Wouldn't than be rather depandant on which church we're talking about? [[User:What|What]]
: The Church (with a capital "C") almost always refers to the Roman Catholic Church. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 04:10, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, I thought conservatives where mainly Protestants... [[User:What|What]]

:::?????? !!!!!! I'm sure that will come as surprise to a ''lot'' of Roman Catholics. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, mainly was a strong word, wasn't actually what I meant, but I reda somewhere that in 2000 63 % of the votes for Bush was protestant and 26 % of them catholic. If that is in anyway representative, wouldn't it be wrong to use the view of the catholic church as a norm in this case? [[User:What|What]]

:Fine, but nobody has answered the question: Is that section of this article claiming that the Bible says that '''divorce''' is a sin of adultery, or that sex after divorce is still adultery, the same as it was before the divorce? The section quotes an unspecified translation of the Bible, and does not cite any church teaching or Bible commentary for its opinions. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 18:01, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

::Here is a better question, the Bible says you shouldn't have sex with someone before marriage. So if you have sex with someone you never intend to marry, is ok then? (this is obviously a joke)--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 21:48, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

I have trouble with the conclusions drawn in this article in regard to divorce is always wrong and Matthew's allowance for marital unfaithfulness doesn't really mean that. I would prefer we simply show that there are 2 different views and not necessarily point to one being right and the other being wrong. Christians, good Christians, can have different views on this matter. Would that be ok with everyone, or would I be stepping on someone's toes? Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:54, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==More data added==
I came across this doing a Google search on major denomination position on divorce (i think) and found it rather lacking. It seems to have been that way for some time, so i researched and added more info and did some formatting, by the grace of God. What think ye? It needs more formatting, at least.[[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 20:10, 1 July 2009 (EDT)