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{{Useful links}}</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Borderline_personality_disorder&diff=293998Borderline personality disorder2007-09-16T01:50:40Z<p>Celtish: </p>
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<div>'''Borderline personality disorder''' ('''BPD''') is a [[mental illness]] marked by 'black-and-white thinking' and an instability in [[mood]], [[self-image]], behavior, and [[interpersonal relationship]]s. BPD is often comorbid with anxiety and mood disorders (including [[bipolar disorder]]). The disorder occurs in approximately 1% to 2% of the general population, and is more common in women than men, with a 3:1 ratio. BPD also includes difficulty in controlling anger, or anger over small things, chronic [[emptiness]], fear of abandonment, self-harm, or suicidal behavior. The term "borderline" arises from the idea that one could be borderline between [[psychosis]] and [[neurosis]], athough this idea has fallen out of favor. Numerous studies have shown there is a relation between BPD and childhood abuse. Many with BPD report having been abused or neglected as a child. There may also be a genetic factor. One study of identical twins found that when one twin had BPD there would be a 35% chance that the other would have BPD.<ref>Torgersen S, Lygren S, Oien PA, Skre I, Onstad S, Edvardsen J, Tambs K, Kringlen E. (2000) [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=11086146 A twin study of personality disorders.] ''Compr Psychiatry.'' Nov-Dec;41(6):416-25.</ref> In a study in 2003 patients with BPD showed much more activity in the left [[amygdala]] than in the right.<br />
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<div>'''Borderline personality disorder''' ('''BPD''') is a [[mental illness]] marked by black-and-white thinking and an instability in [[mood]], [[self-image]], behavior, and [[interpersonal relationship]]s. BPD is often comorbid with anxiety and mood disorders (including [[bipolar disorder]]). The disorder occurs in approximately 1% to 2% of the general population, and is more common in women than men, with a 3:1 ratio. BPD also includes difficulty in controlling anger, or anger over small things, chronic [[emptiness]], fear of abandonment, self-harm, or suicidal behavior. The term "borderline" arises from the idea that one could be borderline between [[psychosis]] and [[neurosis]], athough this idea has fallen out of favor. Numerous studies have shown there is a relation between BPD and childhood abuse. Many with BPD report having been abused or neglected as a child. There may also be a genetic factor. One study of identical twins found that when one twin had BPD there would be a 35% chance that the other would have BPD.<ref>Torgersen S, Lygren S, Oien PA, Skre I, Onstad S, Edvardsen J, Tambs K, Kringlen E. (2000) [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=11086146 A twin study of personality disorders.] ''Compr Psychiatry.'' Nov-Dec;41(6):416-25.</ref> In a study in 2003 patients with BPD showed much more activity in the left [[amygdala]] than in the right.<br />
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<div>'''Affirmative action''' is a name given to any of several disparate policies intended to remedy the historical effects of race or sex discrimination.<br />
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The original concept of affirmative action was that it is desirable to not merely act on non-discrimination passively (i.e., saying "this job is open to any applicant", but then making no efforts to find minority applicants), but should also be done ''affirmatively'', by taking definite actions to find applicants from minorities.<br />
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This would be, in its way, admirable. However, in current use, affirmative action goes beyond this, often mandating the use of quotas for setting aside jobs or a portion of college entrance positions for each minority (including also some "minorities" which are actually majorities). In effect, this means selecting applicants by the color of their skin, precisely what the original concept of non-discrimination forbids. This is sometimes called "reverse discrimination," although this term is rather contradictory - discrimination remains discrimination.<br />
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Regents v. Bakke effectively outlawed this "sometimes called 'reverse discrimination.'"<br />
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[[Dinesh D'Souza]] wrote:<br />
:Many whites have become increasingly scornful of black demands, and vehemently reject racial preferences. Most blacks, by contrast, support affirmative action as indispensable to fighting the enduring effects of white racism. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/endofrac.htm]<br />
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*[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/endofrac.htm The End of Racism: The White Man's Burden] - Dinesh D'Souza<br />
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<div>#REDIRECT [[sexism]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=293930Feminism2007-09-15T23:46:17Z<p>Celtish: </p>
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<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. [[Feminism]] is originally an acknowledged medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
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==History==<br />
Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
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The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
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The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
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During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
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==Quotations== <br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon <br />
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"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." - Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor <br />
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"I haven't the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero-sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary-vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don't mean that. Yes, I really do" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies <br />
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"I am woman! I am invincible! I am pooped!" - Author Unknown <br />
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"The feminista agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" - Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992 <br />
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"The people I'm furious with are the Women's Liberationists. They keep getting up on soapboxes and proclaiming women are brighter than men. That's true, but it should be kept quiet or it ruins the whole racket" - Anita Loos <br />
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"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex" - [[Valerie Solanas]], [[SCUM]] founder (Society for Cutting Up Men) <br />
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"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things" - Jilly Cooper, [[SCUM]] (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by [[Valerie Solanas]]) <br />
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"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW <br />
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"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"In my own life, I don't have intercourse. That is my choice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Q: People think you are very hostile to men A: "I am" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men use the night to erase us" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6 <br />
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"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression" - Sheila Jeffrys <br />
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"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs" - Catharine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; Universities of Michigan & Yale) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in ''Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies'' <br />
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"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men" - Sharon Stone, Actress <br />
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All men are good for is f---ing, and running over with a truck - statement made by an University of Maine Feminist Administrator and overheard by [[Richard Dinsmore]] who brought a successful civil suit against the university in the amount of $600,000. Richard had objected to what was said and as a result was dismissed on the grounds of 'harassment'. He responded by bringing suit against the university, 1995 settlement <br />
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"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive ... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo" - Jodie Foster, Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine <br />
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"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race" - Sally Miller Gearhart, in ''The Future - If There Is One - Is Female'' <br />
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"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference" - Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime <br />
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"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males" - Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001 <br />
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"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them" - David Angier <br />
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"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience" - Catherine Comins <br />
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"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women ... he can sexually molest his daughters ... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE" - Marilyn French (her emphasis) <br />
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My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter" - Marilyn French; The Woman's Room <br />
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"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women ... All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men's prey" - Marilyn French <br />
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"All men are rapists and that's all they are" - Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign) <br />
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"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations ... obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign" - Marilyn French <br />
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"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it" - Barbara Jordan, former congresswoman <br />
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"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release" - [[Germaine Greer]] <br />
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"Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence" - Judith Levine, Authoress <br />
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"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, 'hate in love' for the men women share their lives with - husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, co-workers." - Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love <br />
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"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of 'sex acts' ... includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder" - Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document (A Southern Women's Writing Collective: Women Against Sex) <br />
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((Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as "The F---ing Molesters Society" (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feminist psychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory)) <br />
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((At the STONE ANGELS satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay in February, 1995, the following was contained in the handouts at a conference supported financially by the Ontario Government: FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY)) <br />
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"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do" -- Popular Feminist Graffiti <br />
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"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father's concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What's more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal" - Sylvia Fraser, Journalist <br />
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Catharine MacKinnon maintains that "the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women's exploited labor." In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state's nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid - ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed - they're "hiding from the truth" The family isn't a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don't simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to "breed" them for that purpose - Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al, tenets of misandric belief) <br />
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"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal - a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students - I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment ... of persuading students that women are oppressed" - Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women <br />
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"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact." - Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood. <br />
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Another posting on FEMISA: "Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men's violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers." (Both above quotes taken from Daphne Patai's excellent critical work, Heterophobia) <br />
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"At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert... writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages." - Heather Hart 7 <br />
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Here are 10 reasons why we are concerned about feminism and the National Organisation for Women <br />
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1. "The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times, January, 1988 <br />
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2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - feminist leader Sheila Cronan <br />
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3. In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world" - Gary Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China" The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989 <br />
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4. "Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole ... patriarch!" - [[Gloria Steinem]], radical feminist leader, editor of Ms. Magazine <br />
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5. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women.... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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6. "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God" - [[Gloria Steinem]], editor of Ms. Magazine) <br />
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7. "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women ... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist 'salvation' of this world" - Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist Salvation," The Humanist, p. 37, July/August 1988 <br />
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8. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" - Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman <br />
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9. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" - Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981 <br />
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10. "The most merciful thing a large family can to do one of its infant members is to kill it" - Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in "Women and the New Race" p. 67 <br />
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"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton <br />
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From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985: <br />
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MALE: ... represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants ... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female <br />
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MAN: ... an obsolete life form ... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ...a contradictory baby-man ... <br />
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TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning" <br />
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Letter to editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" "... Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is: if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down" Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia. 9 February, 1996 <br />
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“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism” - Catharine MacKinnon<br />
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The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
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<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
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The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
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<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293800Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T19:48:17Z<p>Celtish: /* Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men */</p>
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<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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=== Women-only Accomodations ===<br />
"Women-only coaches" are becoming increasingly common in large cities in Japan, Brazil, and Phillipines. While proponents of these coaches say they are an effort to prevent rampant sexual harassment on trains <ref>64% of Tokyo women stated that they had been groped in trains.[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article394630.ece]</ref><ref>http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?aid=2750</ref>, others believe that this [[segregation]] is an instance of sexism against men. Similar female-only accomodations are institutionalized in Muslim countries such as [[Saudi Arabia]].<br />
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In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''women-only swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in London, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as ''golf clubs'' and ''golf tournaments'' ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''.<br />
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In some countries, if a rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.''<br />
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=== Some Indicators of Sexism against Men === <br />
According to material written by [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism:<br />
<br />
The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. ''Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.'' <br />
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Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
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1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
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2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
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3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
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4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
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5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
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6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
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7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
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8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
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9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
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10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
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11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
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12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
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13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
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14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
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15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
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16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
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17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
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18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
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19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
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20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
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21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
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22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
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23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
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24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
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25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
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26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
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27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
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28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
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29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
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30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
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There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
<br />
RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
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Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
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Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
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Norwegian Companies: The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
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Russian Police set up Women-only Unit: Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
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Swedish Tax on Men: In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.<br />
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==References==<br />
<references/></div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=British_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=293798British Broadcasting Corporation2007-09-15T19:44:22Z<p>Celtish: /* Funding */</p>
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<div>[[Image:BBC Logo 1997-Present.png|right|thumb]]<br />
The '''British Broadcasting Corporation''' is the national public service broadcaster of the [[United Kingdom]]. It is the leading broadcaster in the UK and is regarded as one of the leading broadcasters in the world. In terms of audience figures, it is the largest broadcaster in the world. It was founded in [[London]] in 1927.<br />
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The BBC operates eight national television channels[http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/] in the UK and ten national radio stations[http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/]. Alongside these are it's regional television services, which are variations of the national services, and separate regional radio stations.<br />
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Outside the UK the best known service is the BBC World Service radio network which transmits in 33 languages to an estimated 163 million listeners a week[http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/05_may/21/global.shtml]. The BBC operates a number of commercially-funded international television channels including BBC World, the international news channel.<br />
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== Funding ==<br />
The BBC is a Crown corporation supported by a licensing fee applied to television owners<ref>http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/</ref>. The BBC has a ten-year royal charter that defines its purposes and allows it to act somewhat autonomously, and the BBC is ultimately responsible to the [[BBC Trust]] and to the government. The BBC produces many well known television programmes, including ''Bod'', ''Grange Hill'', ''Holby City'', ''Are You Being Served?'', ''Terry and June'', ''Crackerjack'', ''Cracker'', and ''Doctor Who''.<br />
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The BBC repeatedly says it is 'independent' but in fact it clearly has an agenda all of its own. Furthermore, although the BBC is technically not-for-profit, it has an enormous worldwide revenue from the resale of programmes and repeat fees, from the sale of CDs, videos, DVDs, and a wide range of books and magazines. It is in fact a major publisher in its own right.<br />
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==BBC News==<br />
BBC News and Current Affairs is the largest news organisation in the world. It has at least 2,000 journalists and 44 news-gathering bureaus, three in the UK and 41 overseas. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/]<br />
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==Accusations of Bias==<br />
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Although its charter requires it to be impartial, critics often accuse it of bias against [[United States]] and [[Israel]],<ref>http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html</ref> and because of these complaints of bias, an internal investigation was conducted on the BBC's coverage of the [[Arab-Israeli conflict]]. However, after the investigation was completed, BBC officials decided to withhold the 20,000-word report of the investigation, compiled in 2004 by senior editorial adviser Malcolm Balen. Steven Sugar, a Jewish critic of the BBC, attempted to get access to the report under the 2000 Freedom of Information Act, but was denied by the [[United Kingdom]]'s High Court. The information commissioner, Richard Thomas, backed the BBC's decision to block access to the report, but the information tribunal ruled on appeal in August, 2006, in favour of Steven Sugar. Still, the BBC argued at the High Court in London that the tribunal did not have jurisdiction over the case, and the High Court ruled in favour of the BBC on April 28, 2007. The BBC maintains that the internal investigation found no deliberate or systematic bias. Conservative MP David Davies commented: "An organisation which is funded partly to scrutinize governments and other institutions in Britain appears to be using tax-payers [sic] money to prevent its customers from finding out how it is operating. That is absolutely indefensible." and called the BBC's actions a "shameful hypocrisy". It has been estimated that the BBC has spent around £200,000 - £300,000 on the case so far.<ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2044130,00.html</ref><br />
<ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2067542,00.html</ref><br />
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In 2003, Media Tenor, an independent, Bonn-based research group, conducted a study and found that the BBC’s Middle East coverage was 85 percent negative, 15 percent neutral, and 0 percent positive toward Israel.<ref>“Beeb Outdoes Itself”, Tzvi Fleischer, The Review, September 2003, p. 8.</ref><br />
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During a 2006 internal "impartiality summit", BBC executives said they would happily broadcast an image of a [[Bible]] being thrown away, but would not do the same with a [[Koran]]. At the summit, the BBC's Washington correspondent Justin Webb also accused the executives of being anti-American, saying they treated the nation with scorn and derision and no moral weight.<br />
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On June 15, 2007, BBC drew criticism for apologizing over calling Jerusalem the capital of Israel.<ref>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1181813036973&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</ref><br />
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Details of the BBC's bias were further exposed in an official report<ref>'''Revoir, Paul''', ''BBC comes under fire for institutional Left-wing bias'' [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462679&in_page_id=1770&ct=5 Daily Mail] June 18, 2007</ref><ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/17/nbbc217.xml BBC report finds bias within corporation], Gary Cleland,''Telegraph'', June 18, 2007.</ref> - in preparation since 2005 - which found that the BBC:<br />
'''*has an "institutional Left-wing bias"<br />
*has “a tendency to 'group think’ with too many staff inhabiting a shared space and comfort zone.”<br />
*promotes anti-Christian sentiment<br />
*promotes anti-American sentiment<br />
*allows schedules to be "hijacked by special interest groups promoting trendy issues"<br />
*over-represents homosexuals<br />
*over-represents ethnic minorities<br />
*fails to reflect the views of the [[British]] public on issues such as [[capital punishment]]<br />
*fails to reflect the broader views of British people<br />
*allows itself to be used by "sinister" campaign groups<br />
*finds it difficult to understand there may be alternative views of the world'''<br />
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The BBC also systematically discriminates against [[Scots]] speakers. Although over 1.5 million<ref>[http://www1.ku-eichstaett.de/SLF/EngluVglSW/schule25.pdf Language Policy in Scotland and Northern Ireland]</ref> people speak it there is no service in the language of those licence fee payers<ref>[http://www.scotslanguage.com/article/Trust_the_BBC%3F.html/translate/english Trust the BBC?]</ref><ref>[http://www.artscouncil-ni.org/departs/all/report/research/art_of_ulster_scots.rtf BBC NI less than generous]</ref>.<br />
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Paul Dacre, the editor of the British newspaper, the [[Daily Mail]], in his January 2007 Hugh Cudlipp Memorial Lecture, said that "the BBC is, in every corpuscle of its corporate body, against the values of conservatism, with a small "c", which just happen to be the values held by millions of Britons." He also accused the BBC of being hostile to the "traditional Right, Britain's past and British values, America, Ulster Unionism, Euro-scepticism, capitalism and big business, the countryside, Christianity and family values."<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/ BBC official site]<br />
*[http://www.tvlicensing.biz/ BBCresistance - Campaigns against the television licence]<br />
*[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article1942930.ece Bias at the Beeb - official], June 17, 2007, ''UK Times Online''.<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Broadcasting]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293795Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T19:40:06Z<p>Celtish: /* Allegations of sexism against men */</p>
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<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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== Allegations of Sexism against Men ==<br />
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=== Women-only Accomodations ===<br />
"Women-only coaches" are becoming increasingly prolific in large cities in Japan, Brazil, and Phillipines. While proponents of these coaches say they are an effort to prevent rampant sexual harassment on trains <ref>64% of Tokyo women stated that they had been groped in trains.[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article394630.ece]</ref><ref>http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?aid=2750</ref>, others believe that this [[segregation]] is an instance of sexism against men. Similar female-only accomodations are institutionalized in Muslim countries such as [[Saudi Arabia]].<br />
<br />
In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''women-only swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in London, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as ''golf clubs'' and ''golf tournaments'' ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''.<br />
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In some countries, if a rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.''<br />
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=== Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men === <br />
According to material written by [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism:<br />
<br />
The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. ''Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.'' <br />
<br />
Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
<br />
1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
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2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
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3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
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4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
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5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
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6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
<br />
7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
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8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
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9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
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10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
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11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
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12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
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13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
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14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
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15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
<br />
16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
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17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
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18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
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19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
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20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
<br />
21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
<br />
22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
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23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
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24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
<br />
25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
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26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
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27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
<br />
28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
<br />
29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
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30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
<br />
There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
<br />
RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
<br />
Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
<br />
Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
<br />
Norwegian Companies: The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
<br />
Russian Police set up Women-only Unit: Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
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Swedish Tax on Men: In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.<br />
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'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
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[[Political correctness]] (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
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Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
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The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness.<br />
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The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
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What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
==Brainwashing or Conditioning==<br />
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[[Political correctness]] is a form of brainwashing or conditioning using manipulative 'inclusive' or 'neutral' language based on the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' and upon earlier research at the '''Frankfurt School'''.<br />
===Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis===<br />
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The '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' holds that there is a systematic relationship between language and how a person both understands the world and behaves in it. (Although it has come to be known as the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''', it rather was an axiom underlying the work of linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.)<br />
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It is an academic theory which argues that our language determines our thoughts. ''The idea is that without particular words in which to express them, we will be literally unable to think particular thoughts.'' Put simply, the hypothesis argues that the nature of a particular language influences the habitual thought of its users.<br />
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Different patterns of language yield different patterns of thought. It is sometimes expressed as 'language determines thought', suggesting that speakers of another language might have a view of the world very different from our own. The artificial language '''Loglan''' (Logical Language) was originally intended to test the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis'''. The idea was that a logical language would be so different from any natural language that differences in thought should be readily detected, if the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis''' were true.<br />
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The science fiction novel ''Babel-17'' imagines an artificial language that can turn its speakers into traitors. In ''Snow Crash'' language hackers can control people’s minds by speaking to them in a special language.<br />
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===The Frankfurt School===<br />
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[[Political correctness]] started off as a 'think tank', the Institute for Social Research (better known as the '''Frankfurt School'''), in Germany in 1923. Its original remit was to apply Freudian brainwashing techniques in spreading Soviet spin and propaganda through word manipulation, by changing concepts, and meanings of words, and to taboo the use of certain words. In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Institute moved to the U.S. where they continued to use Freud's guilt-and-fear conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into [[political correctness]].<br />
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This research was quickly taken up by zealots at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (long associated with extremism like [[political correctness]], [[feminism]], and inventing the car bomb) and when the University's chancellor, Donna Shalala, was appointed ''Secretary of Health & Human Services'' by ex-president Bill Clinton she wasted no time in propagating these extremist ideologies.<br />
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==History==<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
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Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
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'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
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==Examples==<br />
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An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
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The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
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The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
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As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
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==Differing Opinions==<br />
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Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
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Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
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==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
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In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
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Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
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==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
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The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
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==References==<br />
An excellent expose [http://www.users.bigpond.com/smartboard/pc.htm "Political Correctness"] by Philip Atkinson<br />
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Dinesh D'Souza. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus New York'' Macmillan, Inc./The Free Press, 1991, ISBN 0-684-86384-7<br />
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Henry Beard and Christopher Cerf. ''The Official Politically Correct Dictionary and Handbook'' Villard Books, 1992, paperback 176 pp, ISBN 0-586-21726-6<br />
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David E. Bernstein. "You Can't Say That! Growing Threat to Civil Liberties from Anti-discrimination Laws" Cato Institute 2003, 180 pp, ISBN 1-930865-53-8<br />
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Daniel Brandt. "An Incorrect Political Memoir" Lobster Issue 24: December 1992<br />
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William S. Lind. "The Origins of Political Correctness" Accuracy in Academia, 2000<br />
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Nat Hentoff. ''Free Speech for Me - But Not for Thee'' HarperCollins, 1992, ISBN 0-06-019006-X<br />
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Diane Ravitch. ''The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn'' Knopf, 2003, hardcover, 255 pp<br />
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Nigel Rees. ''The Politically Correct Phrasebook: what they say you can and cannot say in the 1990s'' Bloomsbury, 1993, 192 pp, ISBN 0-7475-1426-7<br />
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Kors, Alan C.; Silverglate, Harvey A. (1998) ''The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America’s Campuses'' New York: Free Press. ISBN 0-684-85321-3<br />
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Arthur Schlesinger Jr. ''The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society'' W.W. Norton, 1998 revised edition, ISBN 0-393-31854-0<br />
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Howard S. Schwartz. ''Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness'' Piscataway, NJ: Transaction Publishers, 2003 Revised Paperback Edition ISBN 0-765-80537-5<br />
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''Campaign Against Political Correctness'' List of examples cited by the Daily Mail<br />
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Berman, Paul. ed. ''Debating P.C.: The Controversy Over Political Correctness on College Campuses'' New York: Dell, 1992<br />
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Bloom, Allan. ''The Closing of the American Mind: How Higher Education has Failed Democracy and Impoverished the Souls of Today's Students'' New York: Simon and Schuster, 1987<br />
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D'Souza, Dinesh. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus'' New York: Vintage Books, 1992<br />
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Levine, Lawrence W. ''The Opening of the American Mind: Canons, Culture, and History'' Boston: Beacon Press, 1996<br />
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Wilson, John K. ''The Myth of Political Correctness: The Conservative Attack on Higher Education'' Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1995<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
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[[Category:Politics]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293784Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T19:23:55Z<p>Celtish: /* Women-only accomodations */</p>
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<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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"Women-only coaches" are becoming increasingly prolific in large cities in Japan, Brazil, and Phillipines. While proponents of these coaches say they are an effort to prevent rampant sexual harassment on trains <ref>64% of Tokyo women stated that they had been groped in trains.[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article394630.ece]</ref><ref>[http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?aid=2750]</ref>, others believe that this [[segregation]] is an instance of sexism against men. Similar female-only accomodations are institutionalized in Muslim countries such as [[Saudi Arabia]].<br />
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In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''women-only swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in London, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as ''golf clubs'' and ''golf tournaments'' ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''.<br />
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In some countries, if a rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.''<br />
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=== Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men === <br />
According to material written by [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism:<br />
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The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. ''Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.'' <br />
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Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
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1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
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2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
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3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
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4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
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5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
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6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
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7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
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8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
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9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
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10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
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11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
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12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
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13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
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14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
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15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
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16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
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17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
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18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
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19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
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20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
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21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
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22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
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23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
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24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
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25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
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26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
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27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
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28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
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29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
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30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
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There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
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RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
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Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
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Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
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Norwegian Companies: The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
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Russian Police set up Women-only Unit: Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
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Swedish Tax on Men: In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Sexual_discrimination&diff=293776Talk:Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T19:18:46Z<p>Celtish: Robert Sheaffer</p>
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<div>This article is desperately in need of some citation and quotation. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 14:48, 15 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I am ''extremely'' skeptical about some of the allegations in the "33 indicators" section (especially the percent of wealth controlled -- how do they define "control?"). Please provide some substantiation -- thanks. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 15:08, 15 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Robert Sheaffer ==<br />
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Thank you. Statistics come from [[Robert Sheaffer]] an acknowledged researcher. I have added a [[Robert Sheaffer]] page which has a lead to his website.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Robert_Sheaffer&diff=293772Robert Sheaffer2007-09-15T19:15:11Z<p>Celtish: New page: Robert Sheaffer (born 1949) is a freelance writer and researcher See http://www.debunker.com/texts/noblelie.html</p>
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<div>[[Robert Sheaffer]] (born 1949) is a freelance writer and researcher<br />
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See http://www.debunker.com/texts/noblelie.html</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Politically_correct&diff=293763Politically correct2007-09-15T19:04:21Z<p>Celtish: </p>
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'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
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[[Political correctness]] (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
<br />
Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
<br />
The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness.<br />
<br />
The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
<br />
What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
==Brainwashing or Conditioning==<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] is a form of brainwashing or conditioning using manipulative 'inclusive' or 'neutral' language based on the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' and upon earlier research at the '''Frankfurt School'''.<br />
===Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis===<br />
<br />
The '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' holds that there is a systematic relationship between language and how a person both understands the world and behaves in it. (Although it has come to be known as the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''', it rather was an axiom underlying the work of linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.)<br />
<br />
It is an academic theory which argues that our language determines our thoughts. ''The idea is that without particular words in which to express them, we will be literally unable to think particular thoughts.'' Put simply, the hypothesis argues that the nature of a particular language influences the habitual thought of its users.<br />
<br />
Different patterns of language yield different patterns of thought. It is sometimes expressed as 'language determines thought', suggesting that speakers of another language might have a view of the world very different from our own. The artificial language '''Loglan''' (Logical Language) was originally intended to test the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis'''. The idea was that a logical language would be so different from any natural language that differences in thought should be readily detected, if the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis''' were true.<br />
<br />
The science fiction novel ''Babel-17'' imagines an artificial language that can turn its speakers into traitors. In ''Snow Crash'' language hackers can control people’s minds by speaking to them in a special language.<br />
<br />
===The Frankfurt School===<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] started off as a 'think tank', the Institute for Social Research (better known as the '''Frankfurt School'''), in Germany in 1923. Its remit was to apply Freudian brainwashing techniques in spreading spin and propaganda through word manipulation, by changing concepts, and meanings of words, and to taboo the use of certain words. In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Institute moved to the U.S. where they continued to use Freud's guilt-and-fear conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into [[political correctness]].<br />
<br />
This research was quickly taken up by zealots at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (long associated with extremism like [[political correctness]], [[feminism]], and inventing the car bomb) and when the University's chancellor, Donna Shalala, was appointed ''Secretary of Health & Human Services'' by ex-president Bill Clinton she wasted no time in propagating these extremist ideologies.<br />
==History==<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
<br />
Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
<br />
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
<br />
==Examples==<br />
<br />
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
<br />
The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
<br />
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
<br />
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
<br />
==Differing Opinions==<br />
<br />
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
<br />
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
<br />
==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
<br />
In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
<br />
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
<br />
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
<br />
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==References==<br />
An excellent expose [http://www.users.bigpond.com/smartboard/pc.htm "Political Correctness"] by Philip Atkinson<br />
<br />
Dinesh D'Souza. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus New York'' Macmillan, Inc./The Free Press, 1991, ISBN 0-684-86384-7<br />
<br />
Henry Beard and Christopher Cerf. ''The Official Politically Correct Dictionary and Handbook'' Villard Books, 1992, paperback 176 pp, ISBN 0-586-21726-6<br />
<br />
David E. Bernstein. "You Can't Say That! Growing Threat to Civil Liberties from Anti-discrimination Laws" Cato Institute 2003, 180 pp, ISBN 1-930865-53-8<br />
<br />
Daniel Brandt. "An Incorrect Political Memoir" Lobster Issue 24: December 1992<br />
<br />
William S. Lind. "The Origins of Political Correctness" Accuracy in Academia, 2000<br />
<br />
Nat Hentoff. ''Free Speech for Me - But Not for Thee'' HarperCollins, 1992, ISBN 0-06-019006-X<br />
<br />
Diane Ravitch. ''The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn'' Knopf, 2003, hardcover, 255 pp<br />
<br />
Nigel Rees. ''The Politically Correct Phrasebook: what they say you can and cannot say in the 1990s'' Bloomsbury, 1993, 192 pp, ISBN 0-7475-1426-7<br />
<br />
Kors, Alan C.; Silverglate, Harvey A. (1998) ''The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America’s Campuses'' New York: Free Press. ISBN 0-684-85321-3<br />
<br />
Arthur Schlesinger Jr. ''The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society'' W.W. Norton, 1998 revised edition, ISBN 0-393-31854-0<br />
<br />
Howard S. Schwartz. ''Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness'' Piscataway, NJ: Transaction Publishers, 2003 Revised Paperback Edition ISBN 0-765-80537-5<br />
<br />
''Campaign Against Political Correctness'' List of examples cited by the Daily Mail<br />
<br />
Berman, Paul. ed. ''Debating P.C.: The Controversy Over Political Correctness on College Campuses'' New York: Dell, 1992<br />
<br />
Bloom, Allan. ''The Closing of the American Mind: How Higher Education has Failed Democracy and Impoverished the Souls of Today's Students'' New York: Simon and Schuster, 1987<br />
<br />
D'Souza, Dinesh. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus'' New York: Vintage Books, 1992<br />
<br />
Levine, Lawrence W. ''The Opening of the American Mind: Canons, Culture, and History'' Boston: Beacon Press, 1996<br />
<br />
Wilson, John K. ''The Myth of Political Correctness: The Conservative Attack on Higher Education'' Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1995<br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
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<div>'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
<br />
Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
<br />
The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness.<br />
<br />
The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
<br />
What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
==Brainwashing or Conditioning==<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] is a form of brainwashing or conditioning using manipulative 'inclusive' or 'neutral' language based on the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' and upon earlier research at the '''Frankfurt School'''.<br />
===Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis===<br />
<br />
The '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' holds that there is a systematic relationship between language and how a person both understands the world and behaves in it. (Although it has come to be known as the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''', it rather was an axiom underlying the work of linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.)<br />
<br />
It is an academic theory which argues that our language determines our thoughts. ''The idea is that without particular words in which to express them, we will be literally unable to think particular thoughts.'' Put simply, the hypothesis argues that the nature of a particular language influences the habitual thought of its users.<br />
<br />
Different patterns of language yield different patterns of thought. It is sometimes expressed as 'language determines thought', suggesting that speakers of another language might have a view of the world very different from our own. The artificial language '''Loglan''' (Logical Language) was originally intended to test the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis'''. The idea was that a logical language would be so different from any natural language that differences in thought should be readily detected, if the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis''' were true.<br />
<br />
The science fiction novel ''Babel-17'' imagines an artificial language that can turn its speakers into traitors. In ''Snow Crash'' language hackers can control people’s minds by speaking to them in a special language.<br />
<br />
===The Frankfurt School===<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] started off as a 'think tank', the Institute for Social Research (better known as the '''Frankfurt School'''), in Germany in 1923. Its remit was to apply Freudian brainwashing techniques in spreading spin and propaganda through word manipulation, by changing concepts, and meanings of words, and to taboo the use of certain words. In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Institute moved to the U.S. where they continued to use Freud's guilt-and-fear conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into [[political correctness]].<br />
<br />
This research was quickly taken up by zealots at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (long associated with extremism like [[political correctness]], [[feminism]], and inventing the car bomb) and when the University's chancellor, Donna Shalala, was appointed ''Secretary of Health & Human Services'' by ex-president Bill Clinton she wasted no time in propagating these extremist ideologies.<br />
==History==<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
<br />
Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
<br />
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
<br />
==Examples==<br />
<br />
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
<br />
The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
<br />
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
<br />
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
<br />
==Differing Opinions==<br />
<br />
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
<br />
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
<br />
==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
<br />
In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
<br />
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
<br />
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
<br />
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==References==<br />
An excellent expose [http://www.users.bigpond.com/smartboard/pc.htm "Political Correctness"] by Philip Atkinson<br />
<br />
Dinesh D'Souza. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus New York'' Macmillan, Inc./The Free Press, 1991, ISBN 0-684-86384-7<br />
<br />
Henry Beard and Christopher Cerf. ''The Official Politically Correct Dictionary and Handbook'' Villard Books, 1992, paperback 176 pp, ISBN 0-586-21726-6<br />
<br />
David E. Bernstein. "You Can't Say That! Growing Threat to Civil Liberties from Anti-discrimination Laws" Cato Institute 2003, 180 pp, ISBN 1-930865-53-8<br />
<br />
Daniel Brandt. "An Incorrect Political Memoir" Lobster Issue 24: December 1992<br />
<br />
William S. Lind. "The Origins of Political Correctness" Accuracy in Academia, 2000<br />
<br />
Nat Hentoff. ''Free Speech for Me - But Not for Thee'' HarperCollins, 1992, ISBN 0-06-019006-X<br />
<br />
Diane Ravitch. ''The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn'' Knopf, 2003, hardcover, 255 pp<br />
<br />
Nigel Rees. ''The Politically Correct Phrasebook: what they say you can and cannot say in the 1990s'' Bloomsbury, 1993, 192 pp, ISBN 0-7475-1426-7<br />
<br />
Kors, Alan C.; Silverglate, Harvey A. (1998) ''The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America’s Campuses'' New York: Free Press. ISBN 0-684-85321-3<br />
<br />
Arthur Schlesinger Jr. ''The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society'' W.W. Norton, 1998 revised edition, ISBN 0-393-31854-0<br />
<br />
Howard S. Schwartz. ''Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness'' Piscataway, NJ: Transaction Publishers, 2003 Revised Paperback Edition ISBN 0-765-80537-5<br />
<br />
''Campaign Against Political Correctness'' List of examples cited by the Daily Mail<br />
<br />
Berman, Paul. ed. ''Debating P.C.: The Controversy Over Political Correctness on College Campuses'' New York: Dell, 1992<br />
<br />
Bloom, Allan. ''The Closing of the American Mind: How Higher Education has Failed Democracy and Impoverished the Souls of Today's Students'' New York: Simon and Schuster, 1987<br />
<br />
D'Souza, Dinesh. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus'' New York: Vintage Books, 1992<br />
<br />
Levine, Lawrence W. ''The Opening of the American Mind: Canons, Culture, and History'' Boston: Beacon Press, 1996<br />
<br />
Wilson, John K. ''The Myth of Political Correctness: The Conservative Attack on Higher Education'' Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1995<br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
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<div>'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
<br />
Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
<br />
The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness.<br />
<br />
The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
<br />
What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
==Brainwashing or Conditioning==<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] is a form of brainwashing or conditioning using manipulative 'inclusive' or 'neutral' language based on the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' and upon earlier research at the '''Frankfurt School'''.<br />
===Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis===<br />
<br />
The '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' holds that there is a systematic relationship between language and how a person both understands the world and behaves in it. (Although it has come to be known as the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''', it rather was an axiom underlying the work of linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.)<br />
<br />
It is an academic theory which argues that our language determines our thoughts. ''The idea is that without particular words in which to express them, we will be literally unable to think particular thoughts.'' Put simply, the hypothesis argues that the nature of a particular language influences the habitual thought of its users.<br />
<br />
Different patterns of language yield different patterns of thought. It is sometimes expressed as 'language determines thought', suggesting that speakers of another language might have a view of the world very different from our own. The artificial language '''Loglan''' (Logical Language) was originally intended to test the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis'''. The idea was that a logical language would be so different from any natural language that differences in thought should be readily detected, if the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis''' were true.<br />
<br />
The science fiction novel ''Babel-17'' imagines an artificial language that can turn its speakers into traitors. In ''Snow Crash'' language hackers can control people’s minds by speaking to them in a special language.<br />
<br />
===The Frankfurt School===<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] started off as a 'think tank', the Institute for Social Research (better known as the '''Frankfurt School'''), in Germany in 1923. Its remit was to apply Freudian brainwashing techniques in spreading spin and propaganda through word manipulation, by changing concepts, and meanings of words, and to taboo the use of certain words. In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Institute moved to the U.S. where they continued to use Freud's guilt-and-fear conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into [[political correctness]].<br />
<br />
This research was quickly taken up by zealots at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (long associated with extremism like [[political correctness]], [[feminism]], and inventing the car bomb) and when the University's chancellor, Donna Shalala, was appointed ''Secretary of Health & Human Services'' by ex-president Bill Clinton she wasted no time in propagating these extremist ideologies.<br />
==History==<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
<br />
Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
<br />
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
<br />
==Examples==<br />
<br />
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
<br />
The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
<br />
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
<br />
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
<br />
==Differing Opinions==<br />
<br />
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
<br />
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
<br />
==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
<br />
In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
<br />
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
<br />
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
<br />
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==References==<br />
* [[Postmodernism]]<br /><br />
An excellent expose [http://www.users.bigpond.com/smartboard/pc.htm "Political Correctness"] by Philip Atkinson<br />
<br />
Dinesh D'Souza. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus New York'' Macmillan, Inc./The Free Press, 1991, ISBN 0-684-86384-7<br />
<br />
Henry Beard and Christopher Cerf. ''The Official Politically Correct Dictionary and Handbook'' Villard Books, 1992, paperback 176 pp, ISBN 0-586-21726-6<br />
<br />
David E. Bernstein. "You Can't Say That! Growing Threat to Civil Liberties from Anti-discrimination Laws" Cato Institute 2003, 180 pp, ISBN 1-930865-53-8<br />
<br />
Daniel Brandt. "An Incorrect Political Memoir" Lobster Issue 24: December 1992<br />
<br />
William S. Lind. "The Origins of Political Correctness" Accuracy in Academia, 2000<br />
<br />
Nat Hentoff. ''Free Speech for Me - But Not for Thee'' HarperCollins, 1992, ISBN 0-06-019006-X<br />
<br />
Diane Ravitch. ''The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Students Learn'' Knopf, 2003, hardcover, 255 pp<br />
<br />
Nigel Rees. ''The Politically Correct Phrasebook: what they say you can and cannot say in the 1990s'' Bloomsbury, 1993, 192 pp, ISBN 0-7475-1426-7<br />
<br />
Kors, Alan C.; Silverglate, Harvey A. (1998) ''The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America’s Campuses'' New York: Free Press. ISBN 0-684-85321-3<br />
<br />
Arthur Schlesinger Jr. ''The Disuniting of America: Reflections on a Multicultural Society'' W.W. Norton, 1998 revised edition, ISBN 0-393-31854-0<br />
<br />
Howard S. Schwartz. ''Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness'' Piscataway, NJ: Transaction Publishers, 2003 Revised Paperback Edition ISBN 0-765-80537-5<br />
<br />
''Campaign Against Political Correctness'' List of examples cited by the Daily Mail<br />
<br />
Berman, Paul. ed. ''Debating P.C.: The Controversy Over Political Correctness on College Campuses'' New York: Dell, 1992<br />
<br />
Bloom, Allan. ''The Closing of the American Mind: How Higher Education has Failed Democracy and Impoverished the Souls of Today's Students'' New York: Simon and Schuster, 1987<br />
<br />
D'Souza, Dinesh. ''Illiberal Education: The Politics of Race and Sex on Campus'' New York: Vintage Books, 1992<br />
<br />
Levine, Lawrence W. ''The Opening of the American Mind: Canons, Culture, and History'' Boston: Beacon Press, 1996<br />
<br />
Wilson, John K. ''The Myth of Political Correctness: The Conservative Attack on Higher Education'' Durham, N.C.: Duke University Press, 1995<br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
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[[Category:Politics]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Politically_correct&diff=293758Politically correct2007-09-15T18:58:57Z<p>Celtish: </p>
<hr />
<div>'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
<br />
Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
<br />
The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness.<br />
<br />
The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
<br />
What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
==Brainwashing or Conditioning==<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] is a form of brainwashing or conditioning using manipulative 'inclusive' or 'neutral' language based on the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' and upon earlier research at the '''Frankfurt School'''.<br />
===Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis===<br />
<br />
The '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''' holds that there is a systematic relationship between language and how a person both understands the world and behaves in it. (Although it has come to be known as the '''Sapir–Whorf Hypothesis''', it rather was an axiom underlying the work of linguist and anthropologist Edward Sapir and his colleague and student Benjamin Whorf.)<br />
<br />
It is an academic theory which argues that our language determines our thoughts. ''The idea is that without particular words in which to express them, we will be literally unable to think particular thoughts.'' Put simply, the hypothesis argues that the nature of a particular language influences the habitual thought of its users.<br />
<br />
Different patterns of language yield different patterns of thought. It is sometimes expressed as 'language determines thought', suggesting that speakers of another language might have a view of the world very different from our own. The artificial language '''Loglan''' (Logical Language) was originally intended to test the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis'''. The idea was that a logical language would be so different from any natural language that differences in thought should be readily detected, if the '''Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis''' were true.<br />
<br />
The science fiction novel ''Babel-17'' imagines an artificial language that can turn its speakers into traitors. In ''Snow Crash'' language hackers can control people’s minds by speaking to them in a special language.<br />
<br />
===The Frankfurt School===<br />
<br />
[[Political correctness]] started off as a 'think tank', the Institute for Social Research (better known as the '''Frankfurt School'''), in Germany in 1923. Its remit was to apply Freudian brainwashing techniques in spreading spin and propaganda through word manipulation, by changing concepts, and meanings of words, and to taboo the use of certain words. In 1935, after Hitler came to power, the Institute moved to the U.S. where they continued to use Freud's guilt-and-fear conditioning mechanisms to get Americans to buy into [[political correctness]].<br />
<br />
This research was quickly taken up by zealots at the University of Wisconsin, Madison (long associated with extremism like [[political correctness]], [[feminism]], and inventing the car bomb) and when the University's chancellor, Donna Shalala, was appointed ''Secretary of Health & Human Services'' by ex-president Bill Clinton she wasted no time in propagating these extremist ideologies.<br />
==History==<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
<br />
Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
<br />
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
<br />
==Examples==<br />
<br />
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
<br />
The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
<br />
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
<br />
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
<br />
==Differing Opinions==<br />
<br />
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
<br />
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
<br />
==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
<br />
In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
<br />
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
<br />
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
<br />
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
* [[Postmodernism]]<br /><br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Politics]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Politically_correct&diff=293746Politically correct2007-09-15T18:39:25Z<p>Celtish: </p>
<hr />
<div>'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic restrictions imposed by authorities or pressure groups, particularly by [[liberals]]. The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).<br />
<br />
Political correctness (often abbreviated to "polcor" or "PC") is the use of language or behaviour said to be intended to provide a minimum of offence, particularly to racial, gender, cultural, or other identity groups. A text that conforms to the ideas of political correctness is said to be 'politically correct'. Its proponents are often derisively described as the "PC Brigade". <br />
<br />
Political correctness re-emerged on U.S. university campuses during the 1980s and 1990s, and is essentially a politically-motivated programme of attempted language manipulation. It is strongly associated with feminism, post-modernism and the academic left. The term 'PC' is often used to refer to any practice or decision which has been noticably influenced by, or which seeks to promote, a post-modernist, leftist or feminist agenda. However, prescriptive language reform remains one of its key components. <br />
<br />
The language reforms demanded by polcor advocates are superficially reminiscent of historical - largely conservative and middle-class - attempts to insist upon good manners and polite speech in order to avoid giving offence. However, the language reforms demanded by the PC movement go far beyond mere politeness. <br />
<br />
The theory advocated by polcorists, therefore, is to transform political and social reality by transforming language; if one wants to abolish 'racism', all one needs to do is to abolish 'racist' words or language, and everything else will follow, because people will literally no longer be able to frame racist ideas. <br />
<br />
What counts as 'politically correct' language changes arbitrarily over time according to the whims of government and awry intellectuals. <br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
[[Liberal]]s impose [[political correctness]] to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, and nationalities. In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like "he or she", "him or her", "them", etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.<br />
<br />
Other groups jumped on the political correctness bandwagon, with handicapped people dodging the kindly meant slogan, "Hire the handicapped", and insisting that their condition was not abnormal. Rather, they were to be called, "differently abled".<br />
<br />
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' eventually came to refer to the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group. More specifically, groups which (or whose putative "leaders" or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been challenged by libertarian comedian Bill Mahr, by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.<br />
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An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people. In the past the term "crippled" was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive. At some point, somebody decided "crippled" was degrading and the preferred term changed to "handicapped". This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and "disabled" became the preferred term. Today, "disabled" is now considered degrading and "differently abled" and "physically challenged" are now the politically correct terms. The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans: "Negro" and "colored", once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and "Afro-American" and "Black" came into use, which in turn gave way to "[[African Americans|African-American]]", and in broader usage, "people of color". <br />
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The distinction for example between "colored people" (1950s-60s usage) and "people of color" (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.<br />
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The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language. In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as "niggardly" (a word meaning "stingy," unrelated to the racial slur). The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. <ref>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm</ref><br />
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As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like "The Siege" and "True Lies" have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims. Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.<br />
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==Differing Opinions==<br />
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Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the "norm"; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as "the Other" by these left-wing academics.{{fact}} The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream. "Colored people" is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts "colored" first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while "people of color" is acceptable because putting the term "people" first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the "norm".<br />
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Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such. This is known as [[identity politics]]. According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as "queer" and make public displays of "queerness" calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}<br />
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==The Language Police==<br />
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward homosexuality and abortion, as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. <ref> Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997</ref><br />
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In her book "[[The Language Police]]", [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references. Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack. <br />
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Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes. Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. <ref>The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf</ref> Ravitch has documented "''bias guidelines''" for major publishers of texts and tests. These "guidelines" consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.<ref>http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695</ref><br />
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==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==<br />
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The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] This could be viewed as an argument for or against the politically correct use of language, depending on one's perspective.<br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Postmodernism]]<br /><br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]<br />
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&pg=PA378&lpg=PA378&dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&source=web&ots=DYD85Lsf1G&sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]<br />
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[[Category:Politics]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal_bias&diff=293738Talk:Liberal bias2007-09-15T18:31:00Z<p>Celtish: /* 'Liberalism' */</p>
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== What is ...? ==<br />
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This article has no definition of what a Liberal Bias is.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 22:30, 11 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'd go for some citations, too. And some fries. :D [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 11:36, 12 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Should the Daily Show and Colbert Report be on here? Neither make any claim to be unbiased, and Jon Stewart has occasionally derided interviewers (most famously on Crossfire, when he wasn't calling them bad for America) for assuming he was a real news outlet and should be expected to act like one. There's a difference between, say, Air America (Liberal Spin, or Liberal Perspective, depending on how nice you are) and NPR (Liberal Bias) [[User:Momoka|Momoka]] 01:02 15 March 2007<br />
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:I agree, but if we remove the "Duh..." cases, we're basically left only with unsourced statements. ;) I'm not sure what the point of the article is, anyway. If the things in question have a liberal bias, just say it in the article and supply a source.</opinion> --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 08:40, 16 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::I also think this article should include a description of what [[liberal]] bias is so that the [[Conservative]]s amongst us know what to watch out for.<br />
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:The problem with liberal bias is not just the harm which advocacy of false liberal notions does (which is bad enough), but that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness. Many of them quite literally and sincerely consider themselves "middle of the road" (see [[Dan Rather]], as mentioned in Goldberg's ''[[Bias (book)]]''.<br />
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[[user:Hojimachong]] called this "original research". That stings a bit, because I'm a refugee from Wikipedia where "OR" is a big no-no. So I'll try to dig up some referencs for this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:21, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Okay, I think I've provided 2 citations for the idea that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness and 1 citation for Dan Rather calling a Liberal newspaper "middle of the road". This still might not be up to encyclopedia quality, because it's only one source: [[Bernard Goldberg]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:41, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== References that don't support the item they're referencing ==<br />
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Everything in it should have a citation. <br />
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And the citation should be a published statement by someone authoritative&mdash;a recognized conservative is fine, but not "me and my brother"&mdash;that ''says the thing in question is liberal.''<br />
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What set me off is that there '''is''' a reference for Dan Rather's being considered liberal. But the reference does not say Dan Rather is liberal. It says Dan Rather things the New York Times is middle-of-the-road. <br />
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There's a difference between "X says Dan Rather is liberal" and "Dan Rather says Y is middle-of-the-road."<br />
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Particularly when no source has been cited for the New York Times' supposed liberal bias. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 08:43, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
==According to this site==<br />
The nation's major media outlets ''seem'' to be owned by corporations which are by no means "liberal", except, perhaps, in the way they have liberally given to [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | politicians.]+--[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 11:54, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Conservative bias ==<br />
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Could someone who knows please consider writing the matching [[Conservative bias]] article listing Conservative news sources? I am surprised and confused that Conservapedia criticizes Wikipedia by claiming that most Americans are Conservative, but that what I see as America's most reliable news sources are all listed as having a liberal bias. Thankyou. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Done; I don't understand this either (but remember FOX News, purveyor of truth and justice ;), isn't listed), but the powers that be won't appreciate anyone changing it. [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]<br />
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*Please! Whilst the majority of Americans are far more traditional/conservative than the news outlets are, and those who work for them, the fact that Fox News, in unbiased studies (and preception) is less "Liberal", it doesn't make Fox News "Conservative", just fair. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:36, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Why does the Conservative American public continue to buy and read such biased newspapers, radio and television stations, instead of putting their money where their mouth is and creating a reputable conservative alternative? Is Rupert Murdoch the only person who saw the ''majority'' of Americans as a potential market!? Does he/News Corp have major newspapers too, or just the Fox News television channel? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 23:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*News Corp is one of the world's largest media holding companies. Its holdings includes ''TV Guide'', ''Sky'' and ''Direct-TV'' satellite services, the various ''Fox'' networks, ''Harper-Collins'' publishing, The ''London Times'', New York ''Post'', dozens of newspapers in Australia and the ''20th Century Fox'' motion picture and television studios. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Disney owns ABC, Disney gave GWB's 2000 campaign 640K.<br />
:Westinghouse owns CBS. (No political contributions cited.)<br />
:General Electric owns NBC, GE gave GWB $1.1 million in 2000<br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS owns: CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%). Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers. <br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS gave GWB $1.6 million in 2000.<br />
:NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch BoD Phillip Morris):Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000.<br />
:::::[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 00:25, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Rob, please don't make me embarass you, with your posting of totally distorted and biased figures. You are in my area of expertise, and most of those coroporations gave exactly the same, if not more, to Democratic Party candidates. You have to go to real stats, not moveon.org for them! --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I don't get embarrassed , only enlightened, [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | here] is my source. I defer to your expertise. Thank you for your kind attention to my little additions around here. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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:::Thanks TK. I meant ''American'' newspapers, as I know News Corp is the largest newspaper publisher in Australia. The only US newspaper you mentioned is the New York Post. Is that a widely-distributed and well-known newspaper like the NY Times and Washington Post, but Conservative? It's not mentioned in the references for liberal/conservative bias, that I can see. Is there widely perceived to be a liberal/conservative bias in the movie houses such as 20th Century Fox? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::Cracker, the donation amounts to GWB don't tell me much without knowing whether they were given before or after he was the endorsed Republican presidential candidate - did they actually support him against Al Gore/John Kerry, or against other Republicans to ensure they had the right Republican? Note that while I (think I) understand the US political ''process'', I do not have a good grasp on the ''politics'' of the various people, along with many of the other non-American readers here, so may well be asking naive questions to someone in the system. Sorry, but if we don't ask, we don't learn. Your source is dated 2003, but was wrong anyway - it says News Corp owns Ansett Airlines. It sold its 50% interest in early 2000, and the airline went bust in 2001. I don't know if it got any media info wrong. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::I was only providing "who owns what" The campaign contributions just happened to be on the site I cited so I included that as well. I suppose my point was that Westinghouse, GE, News Corp, and Disney are not known in the USA as bastions of liberalism. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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*That site must need some kind of Liberal password, cause it won't resolve for me..... :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 02:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Try it now. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
::Ouch! --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::GE and Westinghouse probably care more about Defense and electricity contracts and policies than they do about media bias. If they exercise editorial control, that is likely to be the focus. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes, that would explain NBC hiring Rick Kaplan to run its news. :p Time-Warner, one should see that Ted Turner is one of the largest stockholders. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 03:19, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The [[BBC]] ==<br />
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Ed Driscoll wrote:<br />
*Austin Bay asked me to guest host the Pajamas Media "Blog Week In Review" podcast this week, so I interviewed Robin Aitken, the former BBC journalist and on-air personality who left the network and has written a new book, very much in the vein of Bernard Goldberg's books on American media bias, titled Can We Trust The BBC. I tried to aim the questions towards an American perspective on the topic, but then, how could I not? Aitken also discussed in depth the BBC's biases regarding Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinians. Regular readers of this blog won't exactly be shocked where the BBC comes down on these issues, but for those who still hold out a belief that the BBC is entirely objective, its an eye-opener. [http://eddriscoll.com/archives/cat_oh_that_liberal_media.php] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:02, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Technically the term "objective" is objective, therefore I wonder if it is differences in culture that can explain any bias by the BBC. Surely the BBC is less geared towards sensationalism then American media and it focuses on the issues that are being discussed rather then simply telling the masses where the majority of their opinion lies. This would be more encouraging of a neutral environment where the individual is left to make their own choices. Britain is considerably less puritian in its customs and culture as well as more liberal. The fact that a liberal bias may exist is less important, though then whether it allows for opposing views to be formed. I am unable to do anything more than simply offer a generalization, however, as issues are exceedingly complex and diverse as are the ways of covering them, but surely the issue is more complex then whether the BBC is biased or not.--[[User:Theseus|Theseus]] 22:16, 2 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== TK? ==<br />
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Explain, please... --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:50, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Just checking to see how many keyholes you're peeping into. :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It's locked? ==<br />
''Note: This page has been locked so that only registered users can edit it.''<br />
I am Gulik's complete lack of surprise. But last I checked, I _am_ a registered user. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 01:34, 27 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Middle of the Road ==<br />
" During a phone conversation, Bernard Goldberg asked him, "What do you consider the New York Times? Rather answered, "Middle of the road." " <br />
:The article uses this quote to prove that Dan Rather has a liberal bias? That seems rather foolish to me considering that if left is liberal and right is conservative the middle would be no bias at all. [[User:Dilbert|Dilbert]] 02:27, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Communism for Dummies ==<br />
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Can anyone tell me what this is? The others are all famous, but I haven't heard of this one. It was entered by Hektor back in March, and he was later blocked for questionable edits, so I'd just like to verify we don't have a red herring here. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:It looks very suspicious. It should be removed because of the circumstances you just described. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 17:05, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Sigh. There is a whole line of books with the tag ....."For Dummies" explaining things like "Computers for Dummies", "Windows XP for Dummies", etc. Check Barnes and Noble's website. Or Amazon.com. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:31, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Yes my friend I have a few of those, but in regards to liberal bias if that is what was meant then that wouldn't exactly be a good example. I was just wondering if there was some infamous show or newspaper by that name that I wasn't aware of. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:52, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Ahh! Wasn't a valid link anyway! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:55, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Media bias ==<br />
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So... since no one can agree whether media etc. are "accused of having liberal bias" or "have well known liberal bias," why don't we follow [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandment #2]? If it's so obvious, shouldn't it be written somewhere objective? (And no, that page of out-of-context quotes about minor examples of bias can't be a source; at least not the only source). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 21:29, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:huh? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:58, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I seem to be rambling and in need of sleep. Let me try again: we are on the cusp of a revert war over the issue of whether the media is "accused" of having a liberal bias, or whether they have a "well known" liberal bias. Why don't we just add some sources instead of reverting? See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandments #2 and #5], as well as the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Help:Editing_etiquette Editing Etiquette] ''("put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, Secular geologists believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old is better than The world is 4.5 billion years old")''. According to the rules, both versions of the statement in contention are not acceptible in their current form. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::ok.. so you mean like, "according to longtime media watcher and analyst so-and-so the [[MSM]] is dominated by commie stooges & useful idiots", for example? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 23:42, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::Uh, yeah, as long as it follows the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments#_note-1 footnote] to commandment two: "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others." Though good luck finding an authoritative source calling the NYTimes "commie stooges & useful idiots" ;-) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:57, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Great sourcing on the CBS News bias, Rob. I don't think we will see Uncle Walter issuing an apology will we? --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 02:05, 8 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The United Nations? ==<br />
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I'm not sure if the United Nations fits in here. It's a liberal organization, yes, but it wouldn't seem right to put, say, the ACLU or the Democratic Party in here, as it's not a media organization per se. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:A gathering of nations in a forum for discussion originally created to prevent a third world war is inherently liberal? [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 19:39, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Actually, yes, if you use a different definition of the word liberal. In international politic theory the spectrum is more often broken into "realist" and "liberal". In a nutshell, a realist believes in the use of power and force to ensure security and enforce policy, and a liberal believes in organizations to ensure security and enforce policy. In these terms, the UN is the definition of a liberal solution :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 20:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::: You make [[liberalism]] sound less like [[evil]] than some others here. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::In the olden days, Americans could always say, "Let the UN handle it;" thank the Lord for Conservapedia, cause now we can see just exactly what this attitude of letting "UN Peacekeepers handle it" really means: [[United Nations#UN Sexual Abuse Scandals]]. [[User:Robs|Rob Smith]] 20:42, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::::"Just let the Americans handle it" worked well too, until the Abu Ghraib pictures were leaked. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes! One should be highly offended at terrorists and criminals being humiliated! Of course that is on the same level as stealing billions from the poor, letting hundreds of thousands starve, and aiding anti-Semites.....of course. Kazumaru, see [[Deceit]]. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 21:48, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Yes indeed. Those sadistic American torture techniques, making Mighty Islamic Warriors of God wear women's panties. What will the neighbors think? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:46, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* I appreciate you only disagreeing after you banned me, TK, however... I'm not referring to the panties-on-head thing. I'm referring solely to legitimate acts of torture, like [[Waterboarding]]. And I don't mean surfing.<br />
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::*Do you have any proof whatsoever, any proof that would fit WP's Attribution policies, and the criteria here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method#External_criticism:_authenticity_and_provenance Historical method: '''authenticity and provenance'''], to prove (a) waterboarding was '''ever''' approved by '''any''' US Govt. Executive Agency and/or Dept., and (b) (most importantly) waterboarding was '''ever used''' in recent years? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:47, 19 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* Haven't a clue what any of that has to do with deceit, though... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:32, 13 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== "More then half of Americans agree that their is liberal media bias"==<br />
Here is an interesting poll which gives more evidence of liberal media bias [http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070809222839.jzdcwmy8&show_article=1], you may want to consider adding that information to this article.--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:06, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Actually that ''is'' an interesting poll, but you're reading words into it that's not there. First, it simply says that 'more than half of Americans say new orgs...are biased'. It does '''not''' say 'liberal bias'. Many, many people do indeed believe the MSM is biased, and many believe it is biased towards the right. Bias is most obvious on Fox News, who make a mockery of their tacky marketing phrase 'Fair & Balanced'. Anybody can see their entire output is heavily slanted to the right (cf. the use of the phrase 'Homicide Bombers', the only org outside the White House to use the phrase; even the Army uses the phrase 'Suicide Bomber', as it's more accurate). But bias is also visible in places like the NYT, which have a tendency to bias left.<br />
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Bias is everywhere, and the sooner people on the Right understand that the Left believe this too, the better. If all sides of the argument see bias, maybe we should fix our news? [[User:PhilLynott|PhilLynott]] 22:20, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:That is a very interesting analysis; so liberals are pro-"suicide bomber" whereas right-wingers in the White House and FOX News oppose it. Even the Pentagon has jumped on the liberal bandwagon with this one, defying thier right-wing bosses and cow towing to the liberal slant. Hmmmm, that's news itself. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:30, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:We should include the quote from Diane Sawyer when she said she was being interviewed for jury duty. A lawyer asked her if she could be objective. She responded with something like, "I'm a journalist. I'm always objective." The Courtroom broke out into a roar of laughter. Sawyer says it was the most embarassing moment of her life. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:12, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Yes, after a second look it did not say liberal bias, thanks for the catch. But still, if you look through the article, it seems to imply leftest bias in the media. --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:33, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Poor Diane. :-( A long way from those long walks on the beach with Richard Nixon in exile. Sawyer was part of the very small staff working for Nixon post-exile. She had a nible mind, and a fierce dedication to Nixon. Then she moved East, married Mike Nichols...and what happened! --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 01:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:*[[Monica Crowley]] now is the spiritual heir of Nixon's thinking, although Hillary Clinton has been the most successful at the ballot box using everything she learned from Nixon. Amazing, how the true heirs of Nixonion thought all seem to be women. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:05, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
*Nixon said several times he was profoundly influenced by his Mother's values and thoughts....--<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 18:21, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 17 ==<br />
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Chamberlain was a Conservative; the last Liberal PM was Lloyd George (1916-22). (Source: http://www.annualreport.gov.uk/output/Page123.asp) [[User:G7mzh|G7mzh]] 10:18, 16 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:No, you see, he's an unpopular figure so he becomes a liberal by default. [[User:Fuzzy901|Fuzzy901]] 14:45, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Right. Let's call it "liberalism in reverse." [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 14:47, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*If John Kerry, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy all switched parties and/or announced they were "Conservative", would that make it so? Fuzzy, your thinking is fuzzy, it seems. Although I do admit it is sometimes difficult to translate conservative UK to conservative US. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:56, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::The broader question is over the [[Communazi pact]] and the policy of [[appeasement]]. Chamberlain, like [[Rudolf Hess]], thought peace between Germany & Great Britain was possible. Was Chamberlain a Communazi? I don't know, we'll have to look into it. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Did Chamberlain ever switch parties? It seems he was MP for the Conservative Party since 1918, took part in governments of the Conservative Party, and later became their leader. Please correct me if I am wrong. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:38, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:This is where the term [[Western betrayal#Czechoslovakia]] came from; the [[Treaty of Versailles]] set up many trip wires. Britian under Chamberlain failed to maintain thier obligations. At the time, it was labelled "[[appeasement]]", however now in retrospect, we see more and more [[Comintern]] [[subversion]] through the processes of setting up [[Lenin]]ist style [[united front]]s. All falls into the category of Cold War revisionism since the opening of KGB, Comintern, and NSA Archives. [[Allen Weinstein]] is now the [[Archivist of the United States]], and we are still collecting and categorizing documents. The process of actual interpretation is in its infancy. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 12:13, 15 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 25 ==<br />
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The example 25 is incomprehensible. Can somebody rephrase it to make clear what the point actually is. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:19, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*That better? At this hour, it's about the best I can manage. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 03:42, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Point 25 is still confusing, close to being unintelligible. If CP wants to refer to it elsewhere, it better be clear what is meant. [[User:Order|Order]] 23:47, 26 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 24 ==<br />
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This point confuses me a little. The proof that someone's a liberal is their denial of it? Doesn't this inadvertently encompass those are actually <i>aren't</i> liberals? This is truly dangerous territory! (Imagine a mental disease is diagnosed by the patient's denial of having it - how do we actually find out whether someone actually has it or not? A normal person who logically says "I do not have this disease" is equally "proven" to have it then someone who actually has it, according to this example) [[User:ATang|ATang]] 10:33, 30 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Uncyclopedia ==<br />
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Add [[Uncyclopedia]] to the list at the top. They sport heavy liberal bias and hate speech against conservatives. May God have mercy on their souls for their blasphemy! '''<font color="#FFCC00">Scorp</font><font color="#773300">ion</font>'''<sup>[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]]</sup> 15:40, 8 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== 'Liberalism' ==<br />
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I go along with much of what is said but here in Brit the word 'liberal' has a somewhat different connotation. We have here three mainstrwam political parties: Labour (or, as it likes to call itself nowaday, 'New Labour' - even more extremist than 'old' Labour!), Conservative (aka 'Tory'), and Liberals (aka 'LibDems'!). There are a handful of other parties e.g. the BNP or British National Party, UKIP, the UK Independence Party, and there are a number of locality-based parties. Of the mainstream parties, the Tories are generally considered to be the party of the right but this is not necessarily so.<br />
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Historically, the Liberal Party (formerly the Whigs), now incorporated into the LibDems, was the party of the right at which time the Tories were considered to be 'middle of the road'!<br />
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Our biggest media presentation problem here is the BBC, which whilst repetedly saying they are 'independent' has in fact a disgusting 'liberal' agenda all of its own. And we have to cough up a hefty licence fee for watching television which goes into BBC coffers - even though we may not ever watch BBC! In fact, according to a strict interpretation of the law, we are strictly liable to pay this even if we ''never'' watch any TV but have a computer monitor! {{unsigned|Celtish}} 13:09, 14 September 2007<br />
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*Yes, Celtish! The true mark of Socialism, it is. You are invited to improve our article on the [[BBC]]. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 16:31, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Okay [[User:Celtish|celtish]] 21:38, 14 September 2007 (EDT) Done [[User:Celtish|celtish]] 14:31, 15 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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BBC is not a for profit entity, is it? unlike most of the so-called "mainstream" media in the US. Neither is BBC like the American Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which subsists on Jim & Tammy Faye Baker style beg-a-thons and the public purse. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:35, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Rob, the BBC is more like PBS, than not, however. Both controlled by appointed boards, made by the Government, and funded, in whole or in part, by it. In the UK, unlike the U.S., they are forced to pay a tax to maintain the BBC, which, like I said, is more socialistic then what we have. Not better by much, however. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 17:05, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Although the BBC is technically not-for-profit it does have an enormous worldwide revenue from the resale of programmes and repeat fees, from the sale of CDs, videos, DVDs, and a wide range of books and magazines. It is in fact a major publisher in its own right. [[User:Celtish|celtish]] 21:38, 14 September 2007 (EDT)</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=British_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=293736British Broadcasting Corporation2007-09-15T18:28:49Z<p>Celtish: /* Funding */</p>
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<div>[[Image:BBC Logo 1997-Present.png|right|thumb]]<br />
The '''British Broadcasting Corporation''' is the national public service broadcaster of the [[United Kingdom]]. It is the leading broadcaster in the UK and is regarded as one of the leading broadcasters in the world. In terms of audience figures, it is the largest broadcaster in the world. It was founded in [[London]] in 1927.<br />
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The BBC operates eight national television channels[http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv/] in the UK and ten national radio stations[http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/]. Alongside these are it's regional television services, which are variations of the national services, and separate regional radio stations.<br />
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Outside the UK the best known service is the BBC World Service radio network which transmits in 33 languages to an estimated 163 million listeners a week[http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/05_may/21/global.shtml]. The BBC operates a number of commercially-funded international television channels including BBC World, the international news channel.<br />
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== Funding ==<br />
The BBC is a Crown corporation supported by a licensing fee applied to television owners<ref>http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/</ref>. The BBC has a ten-year royal charter that defines its purposes and allows it to act somewhat autonomously, and the BBC is ultimately responsible to the [[BBC Trust]] and to the government. The BBC produces many well known television programmes, including ''Bod'', ''Grange Hill'', ''Holby City'', ''Are You Being Served?'', ''Terry and June'', ''Crackerjack'' and Doctor Who.<br />
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The BBC repeatedly says it is 'independent' but in fact it clearly has an agenda all of its own. Furthermore, although the BBC is technically not-for-profit, it has an enormous worldwide revenue from the resale of programmes and repeat fees, from the sale of CDs, videos, DVDs, and a wide range of books and magazines. It is in fact a major publisher in its own right.<br />
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==BBC News==<br />
BBC News and Current Affairs is the largest news organisation in the world. It has at least 2,000 journalists and 44 news-gathering bureaus, three in the UK and 41 overseas. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/]<br />
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==Accusations of Bias==<br />
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Although its charter requires it to be impartial, critics often accuse it of bias against [[United States]] and [[Israel]],<ref>http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html</ref> and because of these complaints of bias, an internal investigation was conducted on the BBC's coverage of the [[Arab-Israeli conflict]]. However, after the investigation was completed, BBC officials decided to withhold the 20,000-word report of the investigation, compiled in 2004 by senior editorial adviser Malcolm Balen. Steven Sugar, a Jewish critic of the BBC, attempted to get access to the report under the 2000 Freedom of Information Act, but was denied by the [[United Kingdom]]'s High Court. The information commissioner, Richard Thomas, backed the BBC's decision to block access to the report, but the information tribunal ruled on appeal in August, 2006, in favour of Steven Sugar. Still, the BBC argued at the High Court in London that the tribunal did not have jurisdiction over the case, and the High Court ruled in favour of the BBC on April 28, 2007. The BBC maintains that the internal investigation found no deliberate or systematic bias. Conservative MP David Davies commented: "An organisation which is funded partly to scrutinize governments and other institutions in Britain appears to be using tax-payers [sic] money to prevent its customers from finding out how it is operating. That is absolutely indefensible." and called the BBC's actions a "shameful hypocrisy". It has been estimated that the BBC has spent around £200,000 - £300,000 on the case so far.<ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,2044130,00.html</ref><br />
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In 2003, Media Tenor, an independent, Bonn-based research group, conducted a study and found that the BBC’s Middle East coverage was 85 percent negative, 15 percent neutral, and 0 percent positive toward Israel.<ref>“Beeb Outdoes Itself”, Tzvi Fleischer, The Review, September 2003, p. 8.</ref><br />
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During a 2006 internal "impartiality summit", BBC executives said they would happily broadcast an image of a [[Bible]] being thrown away, but would not do the same with a [[Koran]]. At the summit, the BBC's Washington correspondent Justin Webb also accused the executives of being anti-American, saying they treated the nation with scorn and derision and no moral weight.<br />
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On June 15, 2007, BBC drew criticism for apologizing over calling Jerusalem the capital of Israel.<ref>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1181813036973&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</ref><br />
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Details of the BBC's bias were further exposed in an official report<ref>'''Revoir, Paul''', ''BBC comes under fire for institutional Left-wing bias'' [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462679&in_page_id=1770&ct=5 Daily Mail] June 18, 2007</ref><ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/17/nbbc217.xml BBC report finds bias within corporation], Gary Cleland,''Telegraph'', June 18, 2007.</ref> - in preparation since 2005 - which found that the BBC:<br />
'''*has an "institutional Left-wing bias"<br />
*has “a tendency to 'group think’ with too many staff inhabiting a shared space and comfort zone.”<br />
*promotes anti-Christian sentiment<br />
*promotes anti-American sentiment<br />
*allows schedules to be "hijacked by special interest groups promoting trendy issues"<br />
*over-represents homosexuals<br />
*over-represents ethnic minorities<br />
*fails to reflect the views of the [[British]] public on issues such as [[capital punishment]]<br />
*fails to reflect the broader views of British people<br />
*allows itself to be used by "sinister" campaign groups<br />
*finds it difficult to understand there may be alternative views of the world'''<br />
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The BBC also systematically discriminates against [[Scots]] speakers. Although over 1.5 million<ref>[http://www1.ku-eichstaett.de/SLF/EngluVglSW/schule25.pdf Language Policy in Scotland and Northern Ireland]</ref> people speak it there is no service in the language of those licence fee payers<ref>[http://www.scotslanguage.com/article/Trust_the_BBC%3F.html/translate/english Trust the BBC?]</ref><ref>[http://www.artscouncil-ni.org/departs/all/report/research/art_of_ulster_scots.rtf BBC NI less than generous]</ref>.<br />
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Paul Dacre, the editor of the British newspaper, the [[Daily Mail]], in his January 2007 Hugh Cudlipp Memorial Lecture, said that "the BBC is, in every corpuscle of its corporate body, against the values of conservatism, with a small "c", which just happen to be the values held by millions of Britons." He also accused the BBC of being hostile to the "traditional Right, Britain's past and British values, America, Ulster Unionism, Euro-scepticism, capitalism and big business, the countryside, Christianity and family values."<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/ BBC official site]<br />
*[http://www.tvlicensing.biz/ BBCresistance - Campaigns against the television licence]<br />
*[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article1942930.ece Bias at the Beeb - official], June 17, 2007, ''UK Times Online''.<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Broadcasting]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293690Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T15:35:21Z<p>Celtish: </p>
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<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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''Women-only coaches'' have been introduced on the Tokyo underground and the same exists in Brazil and Philippines. In Britain before World War II, ''women-only compartments'' were introduced on the railways.<br />
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In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''women-only swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in London, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as ''golf clubs'' and ''golf tournaments'' ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''. <br />
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In some countries, if a rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.''<br />
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Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men (based on work and material from [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism).<br />
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The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. ''Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.'' <br />
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Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
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1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
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2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
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3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
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4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
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5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
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6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
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7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
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8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
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9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
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10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
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11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
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12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
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13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
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14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
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15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
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16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
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17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
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18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
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19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
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20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
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21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
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22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
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23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
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24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
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25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
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26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
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27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
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28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
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29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
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30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
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There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
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RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
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Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
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Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
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Norwegian Companies: The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
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Russian Police set up Women-only Unit: Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
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Swedish Tax on Men: In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293689Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T15:30:34Z<p>Celtish: </p>
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<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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''Women-only coaches'' have been introduced on the Tokyo underground (Women-only Passenger Cars) and the same exists in Brazil and Philippines. In Britain before World War II, ''women-only compartments'' were introduced. <br />
<br />
In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in london, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as golf clubs and golf tournaments ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''. <br />
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In some countries, if rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.'' <br />
<br />
Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men (based on work and material from [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism).<br />
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The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim. <br />
<br />
Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
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1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
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2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
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3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
<br />
4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
<br />
5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
<br />
6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
<br />
7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
<br />
8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
<br />
9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
<br />
10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
<br />
11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
<br />
12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
<br />
13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
<br />
14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
<br />
15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
<br />
16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
<br />
17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
<br />
18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
<br />
19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
<br />
20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
<br />
21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
<br />
22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
<br />
23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
<br />
24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
<br />
25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
<br />
26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
<br />
27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
<br />
28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
<br />
29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
<br />
30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
<br />
There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
<br />
RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
<br />
Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
<br />
Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
<br />
Norwegian Companies<br />
The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
<br />
Russian Police set up Women-only Unit<br />
Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
<br />
Swedish Tax on Men<br />
In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293686Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T15:15:41Z<p>Celtish: </p>
<hr />
<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
<br />
Women-only coaches have been introduced on the Tokyo underground (Women-only Passenger Cars) and the same exists in Brazil and Philippines. In Britain before World War II, women-only compartments were introduced. <br />
<br />
In Britain there are women-only library sessions, swimming sessions in public swimming baths and women-only gyms. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove men-only spaces such as gentlemen's clubs in london, and working men's clubs elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join sports clubs that were previously men-only such as golf clubs and golf tournaments (but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs). <br />
<br />
In some countries, if rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. But not vice versa. <br />
<br />
Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men (based on work and material from [[Robert Sheaffer]] and Woman against Feminism).<br />
<br />
The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim. <br />
<br />
Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
<br />
1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
<br />
2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
<br />
3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
<br />
4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
<br />
5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
<br />
6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
<br />
7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
<br />
8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
<br />
9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
<br />
10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
<br />
11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
<br />
12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
<br />
13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
<br />
14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
<br />
15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
<br />
16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
<br />
17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
<br />
18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
<br />
19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
<br />
20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
<br />
21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
<br />
22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
<br />
23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
<br />
24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
<br />
25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
<br />
26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
<br />
27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
<br />
28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
<br />
29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
<br />
30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
<br />
There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
<br />
RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
<br />
Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
<br />
Here are some further examples of [[sex discrimination]] rearing its ugly head.<br />
<br />
Norwegian Companies<br />
The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html<br />
<br />
Russian Police set up Women-only Unit<br />
Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849<br />
<br />
Swedish Tax on Men<br />
In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sex_discrimination&diff=293685Sex discrimination2007-09-15T15:11:32Z<p>Celtish: Redirecting to Sexism</p>
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<div>#REDIRECT [[sexism]]</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=293684Sexual discrimination2007-09-15T15:09:41Z<p>Celtish: New page: Sexism (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. Women-only coaches have b...</p>
<hr />
<div>[[Sexism]] (otherwise known as 'sex discrimination') is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
<br />
Women-only coaches have been introduced on the Tokyo underground (Women-only Passenger Cars) and the same exists in Brazil and Philippines. In Britain before World War II, women-only compartments were introduced. <br />
<br />
In Britain there are women-only library sessions, swimming sessions in public swimming baths and women-only gyms. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove men-only spaces such as gentlemen's clubs in london, and working men's clubs elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join sports clubs that were previously men-only such as golf clubs and golf tournaments (but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs). <br />
<br />
In some countries, if rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. But not vice versa. <br />
<br />
Contents [hide]<br />
1 Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men <br />
2 Sexist News <br />
2.1 Norwegian Companies <br />
2.2 Russian Police set up Women-only Unit <br />
2.3 Swedish Tax on Men <br />
<br />
[edit]Thirty Indicators of Sexism against Men <br />
Based on work and material from Robert Sheaffer and Woman against Feminism <br />
<br />
The American woman by the 1960s lived in the country with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that country. The feminists said they felt 'victimised', however, and convinced American women that they were 'discriminated against'. Never have the feminists been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim. <br />
<br />
Thirty key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat. <br />
<br />
1. WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine] <br />
<br />
2. CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [U.S. Department of Health & Human Services] <br />
<br />
3. INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [U.S. Dept. of Labor] <br />
<br />
4. SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. of Health & Human Services - 26,710 males vs 5,700 females] <br />
<br />
5. LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics - males 72.3 yrs vs. females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs. <br />
<br />
6. AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through so-called 'affirmative action'. <br />
<br />
7. FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters. <br />
<br />
8. VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent. <br />
<br />
9. WAR: Mostly men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense - Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs. 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butts pinched. <br />
<br />
10. WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities. <br />
<br />
11. MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost five times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services - 26,710 men vs 5,700 women] <br />
<br />
12. JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics - 1.4% of men vs. 12.9% of women] <br />
<br />
13. COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics - men at 17 years vs women at 6 years] <br />
<br />
14. JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average 'child support payment' due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of 'child support' collections prosecutions [Census Bureau] <br />
<br />
15. WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women. <br />
<br />
16. SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic maths and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men. <br />
<br />
17. HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Maths are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollments were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4-year college students were men as of 1990. <br />
<br />
18. LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"] <br />
<br />
19. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study show that women are mostly the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it]. <br />
<br />
20. CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women. <br />
<br />
21. FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The U.S. Surgeon-General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability. <br />
<br />
22. WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway. <br />
<br />
23. WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol-related crashes. <br />
<br />
24. INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women. <br />
<br />
25. GENDER REASSIGNMENT: Male-to-female gender reassignment surgeries outnumber female to male surgeries by five to one. <br />
<br />
26. MEDIA BIAS: Few intact, healthy, male-headed families are portrayed in movies and on TV. Men, especially fathers, are portrayed as helpless buffoons. (See Media Portrayal of Men and Women) <br />
<br />
27. RACIAL BIAS: The only people with a shorter life expectancy in 2000 than in 1980 are black men. Black women, who are regarded as being doubly disadvantaged, live 3 years longer than white men. <br />
<br />
28: INSURANCE BIAS: While men's shorter life expectancy is a factor in higher male life insurance premiums, women pay less for car and health insurance, even though they make more claims. <br />
<br />
29. DEATH PENALTY: Almost all Death Row inmates are men. Other than for Eileen Wournos, who was executed in 1997 for man-killing, no woman has been executed since 1954. <br />
<br />
30. BREADWINNER BIAS: A man who earns less than his wife is looked down upon by his wife and by society, even though many social, political, and economic forces are coalescing to make this situation more common than it once was. <br />
<br />
There are a few other things that could be added to the list: <br />
<br />
RETIREMENT FUNDING: What percentage do men and women contribute towards public and private retirement funding programmes, versus what percentage of the benefits do men and women receive? INHERITED WEALTH: How much property do women inherit from men, versus how much property do men inherit from women? DIVORCE SETTLEMENTS: On average, what percentage of common property do husbands and wives receive in divorce settlements? On average, how much property owned by husbands is awarded to wives in divorce settlements, versus how much property owned by wives is awarded to husbands in settlements? LEGAL BIAS: What is the average sentence handed down to those who commit specific crimes against women, versus the sentences handed to those who commit the same crimes against men? PERFORMANCE: On average, how much profit is made by corporations owned or managed primarily by men? How much for corporations owned or managed primarily by women? CHILD SUPPORT: On average, how much child support is paid by mothers in cases where fathers have custody of children versus how much is paid by fathers where mothers have custody? HEALTH: How much is spent on research into illnesses that affect women (like breast, cervical or ovarian cancer) versus how much is spent on research into illnesses that affect men (like prostate or testicular cancer)? <br />
<br />
Anyone researching these areas will invariably find massive disparities favouring women. <br />
<br />
[edit]Sexist News<br />
Here are some recent examples of sex discrimination rearing its ugly head. <br />
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[edit]Norwegian Companies<br />
The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. <br />
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http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html <br />
[edit]Russian Police set up Women-only Unit<br />
Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. <br />
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http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849 <br />
[edit]Swedish Tax on Men<br />
In Sweden, a female legislator introduced a bill to impose on men a 'man tax', to be spent on measures against sex offences and violences against women, but it was rejected. Her excuse was that women had always been 'oppressed' by men, so it was to compel men to make 'reparation'.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal_bias&diff=293480Talk:Liberal bias2007-09-15T01:38:08Z<p>Celtish: /* 'Liberalism' */</p>
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== What is ...? ==<br />
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This article has no definition of what a Liberal Bias is.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 22:30, 11 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'd go for some citations, too. And some fries. :D [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 11:36, 12 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Should the Daily Show and Colbert Report be on here? Neither make any claim to be unbiased, and Jon Stewart has occasionally derided interviewers (most famously on Crossfire, when he wasn't calling them bad for America) for assuming he was a real news outlet and should be expected to act like one. There's a difference between, say, Air America (Liberal Spin, or Liberal Perspective, depending on how nice you are) and NPR (Liberal Bias) [[User:Momoka|Momoka]] 01:02 15 March 2007<br />
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:I agree, but if we remove the "Duh..." cases, we're basically left only with unsourced statements. ;) I'm not sure what the point of the article is, anyway. If the things in question have a liberal bias, just say it in the article and supply a source.</opinion> --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 08:40, 16 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::I also think this article should include a description of what [[liberal]] bias is so that the [[Conservative]]s amongst us know what to watch out for.<br />
::[[User:JC|JC]] 09:28, 21 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Unreferenced statements==<br />
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:The problem with liberal bias is not just the harm which advocacy of false liberal notions does (which is bad enough), but that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness. Many of them quite literally and sincerely consider themselves "middle of the road" (see [[Dan Rather]], as mentioned in Goldberg's ''[[Bias (book)]]''.<br />
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[[user:Hojimachong]] called this "original research". That stings a bit, because I'm a refugee from Wikipedia where "OR" is a big no-no. So I'll try to dig up some referencs for this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:21, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Okay, I think I've provided 2 citations for the idea that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness and 1 citation for Dan Rather calling a Liberal newspaper "middle of the road". This still might not be up to encyclopedia quality, because it's only one source: [[Bernard Goldberg]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:41, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== References that don't support the item they're referencing ==<br />
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Everything in it should have a citation. <br />
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And the citation should be a published statement by someone authoritative&mdash;a recognized conservative is fine, but not "me and my brother"&mdash;that ''says the thing in question is liberal.''<br />
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What set me off is that there '''is''' a reference for Dan Rather's being considered liberal. But the reference does not say Dan Rather is liberal. It says Dan Rather things the New York Times is middle-of-the-road. <br />
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There's a difference between "X says Dan Rather is liberal" and "Dan Rather says Y is middle-of-the-road."<br />
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Particularly when no source has been cited for the New York Times' supposed liberal bias. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 08:43, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
==According to this site==<br />
The nation's major media outlets ''seem'' to be owned by corporations which are by no means "liberal", except, perhaps, in the way they have liberally given to [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | politicians.]+--[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 11:54, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Conservative bias ==<br />
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Could someone who knows please consider writing the matching [[Conservative bias]] article listing Conservative news sources? I am surprised and confused that Conservapedia criticizes Wikipedia by claiming that most Americans are Conservative, but that what I see as America's most reliable news sources are all listed as having a liberal bias. Thankyou. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Done; I don't understand this either (but remember FOX News, purveyor of truth and justice ;), isn't listed), but the powers that be won't appreciate anyone changing it. [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]<br />
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*Please! Whilst the majority of Americans are far more traditional/conservative than the news outlets are, and those who work for them, the fact that Fox News, in unbiased studies (and preception) is less "Liberal", it doesn't make Fox News "Conservative", just fair. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:36, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Why does the Conservative American public continue to buy and read such biased newspapers, radio and television stations, instead of putting their money where their mouth is and creating a reputable conservative alternative? Is Rupert Murdoch the only person who saw the ''majority'' of Americans as a potential market!? Does he/News Corp have major newspapers too, or just the Fox News television channel? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 23:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*News Corp is one of the world's largest media holding companies. Its holdings includes ''TV Guide'', ''Sky'' and ''Direct-TV'' satellite services, the various ''Fox'' networks, ''Harper-Collins'' publishing, The ''London Times'', New York ''Post'', dozens of newspapers in Australia and the ''20th Century Fox'' motion picture and television studios. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Disney owns ABC, Disney gave GWB's 2000 campaign 640K.<br />
:Westinghouse owns CBS. (No political contributions cited.)<br />
:General Electric owns NBC, GE gave GWB $1.1 million in 2000<br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS owns: CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%). Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers. <br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS gave GWB $1.6 million in 2000.<br />
:NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch BoD Phillip Morris):Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000.<br />
:::::[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 00:25, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Rob, please don't make me embarass you, with your posting of totally distorted and biased figures. You are in my area of expertise, and most of those coroporations gave exactly the same, if not more, to Democratic Party candidates. You have to go to real stats, not moveon.org for them! --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I don't get embarrassed , only enlightened, [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | here] is my source. I defer to your expertise. Thank you for your kind attention to my little additions around here. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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:::Thanks TK. I meant ''American'' newspapers, as I know News Corp is the largest newspaper publisher in Australia. The only US newspaper you mentioned is the New York Post. Is that a widely-distributed and well-known newspaper like the NY Times and Washington Post, but Conservative? It's not mentioned in the references for liberal/conservative bias, that I can see. Is there widely perceived to be a liberal/conservative bias in the movie houses such as 20th Century Fox? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::Cracker, the donation amounts to GWB don't tell me much without knowing whether they were given before or after he was the endorsed Republican presidential candidate - did they actually support him against Al Gore/John Kerry, or against other Republicans to ensure they had the right Republican? Note that while I (think I) understand the US political ''process'', I do not have a good grasp on the ''politics'' of the various people, along with many of the other non-American readers here, so may well be asking naive questions to someone in the system. Sorry, but if we don't ask, we don't learn. Your source is dated 2003, but was wrong anyway - it says News Corp owns Ansett Airlines. It sold its 50% interest in early 2000, and the airline went bust in 2001. I don't know if it got any media info wrong. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::I was only providing "who owns what" The campaign contributions just happened to be on the site I cited so I included that as well. I suppose my point was that Westinghouse, GE, News Corp, and Disney are not known in the USA as bastions of liberalism. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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*That site must need some kind of Liberal password, cause it won't resolve for me..... :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 02:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Try it now. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
::Ouch! --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::GE and Westinghouse probably care more about Defense and electricity contracts and policies than they do about media bias. If they exercise editorial control, that is likely to be the focus. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes, that would explain NBC hiring Rick Kaplan to run its news. :p Time-Warner, one should see that Ted Turner is one of the largest stockholders. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 03:19, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The [[BBC]] ==<br />
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Ed Driscoll wrote:<br />
*Austin Bay asked me to guest host the Pajamas Media "Blog Week In Review" podcast this week, so I interviewed Robin Aitken, the former BBC journalist and on-air personality who left the network and has written a new book, very much in the vein of Bernard Goldberg's books on American media bias, titled Can We Trust The BBC. I tried to aim the questions towards an American perspective on the topic, but then, how could I not? Aitken also discussed in depth the BBC's biases regarding Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinians. Regular readers of this blog won't exactly be shocked where the BBC comes down on these issues, but for those who still hold out a belief that the BBC is entirely objective, its an eye-opener. [http://eddriscoll.com/archives/cat_oh_that_liberal_media.php] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:02, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Technically the term "objective" is objective, therefore I wonder if it is differences in culture that can explain any bias by the BBC. Surely the BBC is less geared towards sensationalism then American media and it focuses on the issues that are being discussed rather then simply telling the masses where the majority of their opinion lies. This would be more encouraging of a neutral environment where the individual is left to make their own choices. Britain is considerably less puritian in its customs and culture as well as more liberal. The fact that a liberal bias may exist is less important, though then whether it allows for opposing views to be formed. I am unable to do anything more than simply offer a generalization, however, as issues are exceedingly complex and diverse as are the ways of covering them, but surely the issue is more complex then whether the BBC is biased or not.--[[User:Theseus|Theseus]] 22:16, 2 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== TK? ==<br />
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:(Protection log) (diff; hist) . . TK (Talk | contribs) (protected "Liberal bias": Warning of locking soon.... [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])<br />
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Explain, please... --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:50, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Just checking to see how many keyholes you're peeping into. :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It's locked? ==<br />
''Note: This page has been locked so that only registered users can edit it.''<br />
I am Gulik's complete lack of surprise. But last I checked, I _am_ a registered user. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 01:34, 27 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Middle of the Road ==<br />
" During a phone conversation, Bernard Goldberg asked him, "What do you consider the New York Times? Rather answered, "Middle of the road." " <br />
:The article uses this quote to prove that Dan Rather has a liberal bias? That seems rather foolish to me considering that if left is liberal and right is conservative the middle would be no bias at all. [[User:Dilbert|Dilbert]] 02:27, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Communism for Dummies ==<br />
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Can anyone tell me what this is? The others are all famous, but I haven't heard of this one. It was entered by Hektor back in March, and he was later blocked for questionable edits, so I'd just like to verify we don't have a red herring here. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:It looks very suspicious. It should be removed because of the circumstances you just described. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 17:05, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Sigh. There is a whole line of books with the tag ....."For Dummies" explaining things like "Computers for Dummies", "Windows XP for Dummies", etc. Check Barnes and Noble's website. Or Amazon.com. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:31, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Yes my friend I have a few of those, but in regards to liberal bias if that is what was meant then that wouldn't exactly be a good example. I was just wondering if there was some infamous show or newspaper by that name that I wasn't aware of. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:52, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Ahh! Wasn't a valid link anyway! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:55, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Media bias ==<br />
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So... since no one can agree whether media etc. are "accused of having liberal bias" or "have well known liberal bias," why don't we follow [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandment #2]? If it's so obvious, shouldn't it be written somewhere objective? (And no, that page of out-of-context quotes about minor examples of bias can't be a source; at least not the only source). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 21:29, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:huh? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:58, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I seem to be rambling and in need of sleep. Let me try again: we are on the cusp of a revert war over the issue of whether the media is "accused" of having a liberal bias, or whether they have a "well known" liberal bias. Why don't we just add some sources instead of reverting? See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandments #2 and #5], as well as the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Help:Editing_etiquette Editing Etiquette] ''("put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, Secular geologists believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old is better than The world is 4.5 billion years old")''. According to the rules, both versions of the statement in contention are not acceptible in their current form. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::ok.. so you mean like, "according to longtime media watcher and analyst so-and-so the [[MSM]] is dominated by commie stooges & useful idiots", for example? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 23:42, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::Uh, yeah, as long as it follows the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments#_note-1 footnote] to commandment two: "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others." Though good luck finding an authoritative source calling the NYTimes "commie stooges & useful idiots" ;-) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:57, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Great sourcing on the CBS News bias, Rob. I don't think we will see Uncle Walter issuing an apology will we? --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 02:05, 8 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The United Nations? ==<br />
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I'm not sure if the United Nations fits in here. It's a liberal organization, yes, but it wouldn't seem right to put, say, the ACLU or the Democratic Party in here, as it's not a media organization per se. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:A gathering of nations in a forum for discussion originally created to prevent a third world war is inherently liberal? [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 19:39, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Actually, yes, if you use a different definition of the word liberal. In international politic theory the spectrum is more often broken into "realist" and "liberal". In a nutshell, a realist believes in the use of power and force to ensure security and enforce policy, and a liberal believes in organizations to ensure security and enforce policy. In these terms, the UN is the definition of a liberal solution :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 20:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::: You make [[liberalism]] sound less like [[evil]] than some others here. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::In the olden days, Americans could always say, "Let the UN handle it;" thank the Lord for Conservapedia, cause now we can see just exactly what this attitude of letting "UN Peacekeepers handle it" really means: [[United Nations#UN Sexual Abuse Scandals]]. [[User:Robs|Rob Smith]] 20:42, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::::"Just let the Americans handle it" worked well too, until the Abu Ghraib pictures were leaked. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes! One should be highly offended at terrorists and criminals being humiliated! Of course that is on the same level as stealing billions from the poor, letting hundreds of thousands starve, and aiding anti-Semites.....of course. Kazumaru, see [[Deceit]]. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 21:48, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Yes indeed. Those sadistic American torture techniques, making Mighty Islamic Warriors of God wear women's panties. What will the neighbors think? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:46, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* I appreciate you only disagreeing after you banned me, TK, however... I'm not referring to the panties-on-head thing. I'm referring solely to legitimate acts of torture, like [[Waterboarding]]. And I don't mean surfing.<br />
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::*Do you have any proof whatsoever, any proof that would fit WP's Attribution policies, and the criteria here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method#External_criticism:_authenticity_and_provenance Historical method: '''authenticity and provenance'''], to prove (a) waterboarding was '''ever''' approved by '''any''' US Govt. Executive Agency and/or Dept., and (b) (most importantly) waterboarding was '''ever used''' in recent years? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:47, 19 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* Haven't a clue what any of that has to do with deceit, though... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:32, 13 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== "More then half of Americans agree that their is liberal media bias"==<br />
Here is an interesting poll which gives more evidence of liberal media bias [http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070809222839.jzdcwmy8&show_article=1], you may want to consider adding that information to this article.--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:06, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Actually that ''is'' an interesting poll, but you're reading words into it that's not there. First, it simply says that 'more than half of Americans say new orgs...are biased'. It does '''not''' say 'liberal bias'. Many, many people do indeed believe the MSM is biased, and many believe it is biased towards the right. Bias is most obvious on Fox News, who make a mockery of their tacky marketing phrase 'Fair & Balanced'. Anybody can see their entire output is heavily slanted to the right (cf. the use of the phrase 'Homicide Bombers', the only org outside the White House to use the phrase; even the Army uses the phrase 'Suicide Bomber', as it's more accurate). But bias is also visible in places like the NYT, which have a tendency to bias left.<br />
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Bias is everywhere, and the sooner people on the Right understand that the Left believe this too, the better. If all sides of the argument see bias, maybe we should fix our news? [[User:PhilLynott|PhilLynott]] 22:20, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:That is a very interesting analysis; so liberals are pro-"suicide bomber" whereas right-wingers in the White House and FOX News oppose it. Even the Pentagon has jumped on the liberal bandwagon with this one, defying thier right-wing bosses and cow towing to the liberal slant. Hmmmm, that's news itself. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:30, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:We should include the quote from Diane Sawyer when she said she was being interviewed for jury duty. A lawyer asked her if she could be objective. She responded with something like, "I'm a journalist. I'm always objective." The Courtroom broke out into a roar of laughter. Sawyer says it was the most embarassing moment of her life. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:12, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Yes, after a second look it did not say liberal bias, thanks for the catch. But still, if you look through the article, it seems to imply leftest bias in the media. --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:33, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Poor Diane. :-( A long way from those long walks on the beach with Richard Nixon in exile. Sawyer was part of the very small staff working for Nixon post-exile. She had a nible mind, and a fierce dedication to Nixon. Then she moved East, married Mike Nichols...and what happened! --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 01:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:*[[Monica Crowley]] now is the spiritual heir of Nixon's thinking, although Hillary Clinton has been the most successful at the ballot box using everything she learned from Nixon. Amazing, how the true heirs of Nixonion thought all seem to be women. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:05, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
*Nixon said several times he was profoundly influenced by his Mother's values and thoughts....--<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 18:21, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 17 ==<br />
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Chamberlain was a Conservative; the last Liberal PM was Lloyd George (1916-22). (Source: http://www.annualreport.gov.uk/output/Page123.asp) [[User:G7mzh|G7mzh]] 10:18, 16 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:No, you see, he's an unpopular figure so he becomes a liberal by default. [[User:Fuzzy901|Fuzzy901]] 14:45, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Right. Let's call it "liberalism in reverse." [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 14:47, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*If John Kerry, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy all switched parties and/or announced they were "Conservative", would that make it so? Fuzzy, your thinking is fuzzy, it seems. Although I do admit it is sometimes difficult to translate conservative UK to conservative US. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:56, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::The broader question is over the [[Communazi pact]] and the policy of [[appeasement]]. Chamberlain, like [[Rudolf Hess]], thought peace between Germany & Great Britain was possible. Was Chamberlain a Communazi? I don't know, we'll have to look into it. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Did Chamberlain ever switch parties? It seems he was MP for the Conservative Party since 1918, took part in governments of the Conservative Party, and later became their leader. Please correct me if I am wrong. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:38, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 25 ==<br />
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The example 25 is incomprehensible. Can somebody rephrase it to make clear what the point actually is. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:19, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*That better? At this hour, it's about the best I can manage. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 03:42, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Point 25 is still confusing, close to being unintelligible. If CP wants to refer to it elsewhere, it better be clear what is meant. [[User:Order|Order]] 23:47, 26 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 24 ==<br />
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This point confuses me a little. The proof that someone's a liberal is their denial of it? Doesn't this inadvertently encompass those are actually <i>aren't</i> liberals? This is truly dangerous territory! (Imagine a mental disease is diagnosed by the patient's denial of having it - how do we actually find out whether someone actually has it or not? A normal person who logically says "I do not have this disease" is equally "proven" to have it then someone who actually has it, according to this example) [[User:ATang|ATang]] 10:33, 30 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Uncyclopedia ==<br />
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Add [[Uncyclopedia]] to the list at the top. They sport heavy liberal bias and hate speech against conservatives. May God have mercy on their souls for their blasphemy! '''<font color="#FFCC00">Scorp</font><font color="#773300">ion</font>'''<sup>[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]]</sup> 15:40, 8 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== 'Liberalism' ==<br />
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I go along with much of what is said but here in Brit the word 'liberal' has a somewhat different connotation. We have here three mainstrwam political parties: Labour (or, as it likes to call itself nowaday, 'New Labour' - even more extremist than 'old' Labour!), Conservative (aka 'Tory'), and Liberals (aka 'LibDems'!). There are a handful of other parties e.g. the BNP or British National Party, UKIP, the UK Independence Party, and there are a number of locality-based parties. Of the mainstream parties, the Tories are generally considered to be the party of the right but this is not necessarily so.<br />
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Historically, the Liberal Party (formerly the Whigs), now incorporated into the LibDems, was the party of the right at which time the Tories were considered to be 'middle of the road'!<br />
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Our biggest media presentation problem here is the BBC, which whilst repetedly saying they are 'independent' has in fact a disgusting 'liberal' agenda all of its own. And we have to cough up a hefty licence fee for watching television which goes into BBC coffers - even though we may not ever watch BBC! In fact, according to a strict interpretation of the law, we are strictly liable to pay this even if we ''never'' watch any TV but have a computer monitor! {{unsigned|Celtish}} 13:09, 14 September 2007<br />
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*Yes, Celtish! The true mark of Socialism, it is. You are invited to improve our article on the [[BBC]]. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 16:31, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Okay [[User:Celtish|celtish]] 21:38, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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BBC is not a for profit entity, is it? unlike most of the so-called "mainstream" media in the US. Neither is BBC like the American Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which subsists on Jim & Tammy Faye Baker style beg-a-thons and the public purse. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:35, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Rob, the BBC is more like PBS, than not, however. Both controlled by appointed boards, made by the Government, and funded, in whole or in part, by it. In the UK, unlike the U.S., they are forced to pay a tax to maintain the BBC, which, like I said, is more socialistic then what we have. Not better by much, however. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 17:05, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Although the BBC is technically not-for-profit it does have an enormous worldwide revenue from the resale of programmes and repeat fees, from the sale of CDs, videos, DVDs, and a wide range of books and magazines. It is in fact a major publisher in its own right. [[User:Celtish|celtish]] 21:38, 14 September 2007 (EDT)</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal_bias&diff=293470Talk:Liberal bias2007-09-15T01:27:09Z<p>Celtish: /* 'Liberalism' */</p>
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== What is ...? ==<br />
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This article has no definition of what a Liberal Bias is.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 22:30, 11 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'd go for some citations, too. And some fries. :D [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 11:36, 12 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Should the Daily Show and Colbert Report be on here? Neither make any claim to be unbiased, and Jon Stewart has occasionally derided interviewers (most famously on Crossfire, when he wasn't calling them bad for America) for assuming he was a real news outlet and should be expected to act like one. There's a difference between, say, Air America (Liberal Spin, or Liberal Perspective, depending on how nice you are) and NPR (Liberal Bias) [[User:Momoka|Momoka]] 01:02 15 March 2007<br />
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:I agree, but if we remove the "Duh..." cases, we're basically left only with unsourced statements. ;) I'm not sure what the point of the article is, anyway. If the things in question have a liberal bias, just say it in the article and supply a source.</opinion> --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 08:40, 16 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::I also think this article should include a description of what [[liberal]] bias is so that the [[Conservative]]s amongst us know what to watch out for.<br />
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:The problem with liberal bias is not just the harm which advocacy of false liberal notions does (which is bad enough), but that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness. Many of them quite literally and sincerely consider themselves "middle of the road" (see [[Dan Rather]], as mentioned in Goldberg's ''[[Bias (book)]]''.<br />
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[[user:Hojimachong]] called this "original research". That stings a bit, because I'm a refugee from Wikipedia where "OR" is a big no-no. So I'll try to dig up some referencs for this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:21, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Okay, I think I've provided 2 citations for the idea that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness and 1 citation for Dan Rather calling a Liberal newspaper "middle of the road". This still might not be up to encyclopedia quality, because it's only one source: [[Bernard Goldberg]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:41, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== References that don't support the item they're referencing ==<br />
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Everything in it should have a citation. <br />
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And the citation should be a published statement by someone authoritative&mdash;a recognized conservative is fine, but not "me and my brother"&mdash;that ''says the thing in question is liberal.''<br />
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What set me off is that there '''is''' a reference for Dan Rather's being considered liberal. But the reference does not say Dan Rather is liberal. It says Dan Rather things the New York Times is middle-of-the-road. <br />
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There's a difference between "X says Dan Rather is liberal" and "Dan Rather says Y is middle-of-the-road."<br />
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Particularly when no source has been cited for the New York Times' supposed liberal bias. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 08:43, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
==According to this site==<br />
The nation's major media outlets ''seem'' to be owned by corporations which are by no means "liberal", except, perhaps, in the way they have liberally given to [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | politicians.]+--[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 11:54, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Conservative bias ==<br />
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Could someone who knows please consider writing the matching [[Conservative bias]] article listing Conservative news sources? I am surprised and confused that Conservapedia criticizes Wikipedia by claiming that most Americans are Conservative, but that what I see as America's most reliable news sources are all listed as having a liberal bias. Thankyou. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Done; I don't understand this either (but remember FOX News, purveyor of truth and justice ;), isn't listed), but the powers that be won't appreciate anyone changing it. [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]<br />
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*Please! Whilst the majority of Americans are far more traditional/conservative than the news outlets are, and those who work for them, the fact that Fox News, in unbiased studies (and preception) is less "Liberal", it doesn't make Fox News "Conservative", just fair. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:36, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Why does the Conservative American public continue to buy and read such biased newspapers, radio and television stations, instead of putting their money where their mouth is and creating a reputable conservative alternative? Is Rupert Murdoch the only person who saw the ''majority'' of Americans as a potential market!? Does he/News Corp have major newspapers too, or just the Fox News television channel? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 23:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*News Corp is one of the world's largest media holding companies. Its holdings includes ''TV Guide'', ''Sky'' and ''Direct-TV'' satellite services, the various ''Fox'' networks, ''Harper-Collins'' publishing, The ''London Times'', New York ''Post'', dozens of newspapers in Australia and the ''20th Century Fox'' motion picture and television studios. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Disney owns ABC, Disney gave GWB's 2000 campaign 640K.<br />
:Westinghouse owns CBS. (No political contributions cited.)<br />
:General Electric owns NBC, GE gave GWB $1.1 million in 2000<br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS owns: CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%). Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers. <br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS gave GWB $1.6 million in 2000.<br />
:NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch BoD Phillip Morris):Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000.<br />
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*Rob, please don't make me embarass you, with your posting of totally distorted and biased figures. You are in my area of expertise, and most of those coroporations gave exactly the same, if not more, to Democratic Party candidates. You have to go to real stats, not moveon.org for them! --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I don't get embarrassed , only enlightened, [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | here] is my source. I defer to your expertise. Thank you for your kind attention to my little additions around here. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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:::Thanks TK. I meant ''American'' newspapers, as I know News Corp is the largest newspaper publisher in Australia. The only US newspaper you mentioned is the New York Post. Is that a widely-distributed and well-known newspaper like the NY Times and Washington Post, but Conservative? It's not mentioned in the references for liberal/conservative bias, that I can see. Is there widely perceived to be a liberal/conservative bias in the movie houses such as 20th Century Fox? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::Cracker, the donation amounts to GWB don't tell me much without knowing whether they were given before or after he was the endorsed Republican presidential candidate - did they actually support him against Al Gore/John Kerry, or against other Republicans to ensure they had the right Republican? Note that while I (think I) understand the US political ''process'', I do not have a good grasp on the ''politics'' of the various people, along with many of the other non-American readers here, so may well be asking naive questions to someone in the system. Sorry, but if we don't ask, we don't learn. Your source is dated 2003, but was wrong anyway - it says News Corp owns Ansett Airlines. It sold its 50% interest in early 2000, and the airline went bust in 2001. I don't know if it got any media info wrong. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::I was only providing "who owns what" The campaign contributions just happened to be on the site I cited so I included that as well. I suppose my point was that Westinghouse, GE, News Corp, and Disney are not known in the USA as bastions of liberalism. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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*That site must need some kind of Liberal password, cause it won't resolve for me..... :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 02:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Try it now. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
::Ouch! --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::GE and Westinghouse probably care more about Defense and electricity contracts and policies than they do about media bias. If they exercise editorial control, that is likely to be the focus. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes, that would explain NBC hiring Rick Kaplan to run its news. :p Time-Warner, one should see that Ted Turner is one of the largest stockholders. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 03:19, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The [[BBC]] ==<br />
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Ed Driscoll wrote:<br />
*Austin Bay asked me to guest host the Pajamas Media "Blog Week In Review" podcast this week, so I interviewed Robin Aitken, the former BBC journalist and on-air personality who left the network and has written a new book, very much in the vein of Bernard Goldberg's books on American media bias, titled Can We Trust The BBC. I tried to aim the questions towards an American perspective on the topic, but then, how could I not? Aitken also discussed in depth the BBC's biases regarding Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinians. Regular readers of this blog won't exactly be shocked where the BBC comes down on these issues, but for those who still hold out a belief that the BBC is entirely objective, its an eye-opener. [http://eddriscoll.com/archives/cat_oh_that_liberal_media.php] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:02, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Technically the term "objective" is objective, therefore I wonder if it is differences in culture that can explain any bias by the BBC. Surely the BBC is less geared towards sensationalism then American media and it focuses on the issues that are being discussed rather then simply telling the masses where the majority of their opinion lies. This would be more encouraging of a neutral environment where the individual is left to make their own choices. Britain is considerably less puritian in its customs and culture as well as more liberal. The fact that a liberal bias may exist is less important, though then whether it allows for opposing views to be formed. I am unable to do anything more than simply offer a generalization, however, as issues are exceedingly complex and diverse as are the ways of covering them, but surely the issue is more complex then whether the BBC is biased or not.--[[User:Theseus|Theseus]] 22:16, 2 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== TK? ==<br />
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:(Protection log) (diff; hist) . . TK (Talk | contribs) (protected "Liberal bias": Warning of locking soon.... [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])<br />
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Explain, please... --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:50, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Just checking to see how many keyholes you're peeping into. :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It's locked? ==<br />
''Note: This page has been locked so that only registered users can edit it.''<br />
I am Gulik's complete lack of surprise. But last I checked, I _am_ a registered user. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 01:34, 27 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Middle of the Road ==<br />
" During a phone conversation, Bernard Goldberg asked him, "What do you consider the New York Times? Rather answered, "Middle of the road." " <br />
:The article uses this quote to prove that Dan Rather has a liberal bias? That seems rather foolish to me considering that if left is liberal and right is conservative the middle would be no bias at all. [[User:Dilbert|Dilbert]] 02:27, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Communism for Dummies ==<br />
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Can anyone tell me what this is? The others are all famous, but I haven't heard of this one. It was entered by Hektor back in March, and he was later blocked for questionable edits, so I'd just like to verify we don't have a red herring here. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:It looks very suspicious. It should be removed because of the circumstances you just described. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 17:05, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Sigh. There is a whole line of books with the tag ....."For Dummies" explaining things like "Computers for Dummies", "Windows XP for Dummies", etc. Check Barnes and Noble's website. Or Amazon.com. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:31, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Yes my friend I have a few of those, but in regards to liberal bias if that is what was meant then that wouldn't exactly be a good example. I was just wondering if there was some infamous show or newspaper by that name that I wasn't aware of. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:52, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Ahh! Wasn't a valid link anyway! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:55, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Media bias ==<br />
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So... since no one can agree whether media etc. are "accused of having liberal bias" or "have well known liberal bias," why don't we follow [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandment #2]? If it's so obvious, shouldn't it be written somewhere objective? (And no, that page of out-of-context quotes about minor examples of bias can't be a source; at least not the only source). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 21:29, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:huh? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:58, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I seem to be rambling and in need of sleep. Let me try again: we are on the cusp of a revert war over the issue of whether the media is "accused" of having a liberal bias, or whether they have a "well known" liberal bias. Why don't we just add some sources instead of reverting? See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandments #2 and #5], as well as the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Help:Editing_etiquette Editing Etiquette] ''("put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, Secular geologists believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old is better than The world is 4.5 billion years old")''. According to the rules, both versions of the statement in contention are not acceptible in their current form. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::ok.. so you mean like, "according to longtime media watcher and analyst so-and-so the [[MSM]] is dominated by commie stooges & useful idiots", for example? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 23:42, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::Uh, yeah, as long as it follows the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments#_note-1 footnote] to commandment two: "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others." Though good luck finding an authoritative source calling the NYTimes "commie stooges & useful idiots" ;-) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:57, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Great sourcing on the CBS News bias, Rob. I don't think we will see Uncle Walter issuing an apology will we? --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 02:05, 8 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The United Nations? ==<br />
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I'm not sure if the United Nations fits in here. It's a liberal organization, yes, but it wouldn't seem right to put, say, the ACLU or the Democratic Party in here, as it's not a media organization per se. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:A gathering of nations in a forum for discussion originally created to prevent a third world war is inherently liberal? [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 19:39, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Actually, yes, if you use a different definition of the word liberal. In international politic theory the spectrum is more often broken into "realist" and "liberal". In a nutshell, a realist believes in the use of power and force to ensure security and enforce policy, and a liberal believes in organizations to ensure security and enforce policy. In these terms, the UN is the definition of a liberal solution :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 20:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::: You make [[liberalism]] sound less like [[evil]] than some others here. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::In the olden days, Americans could always say, "Let the UN handle it;" thank the Lord for Conservapedia, cause now we can see just exactly what this attitude of letting "UN Peacekeepers handle it" really means: [[United Nations#UN Sexual Abuse Scandals]]. [[User:Robs|Rob Smith]] 20:42, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::::"Just let the Americans handle it" worked well too, until the Abu Ghraib pictures were leaked. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes! One should be highly offended at terrorists and criminals being humiliated! Of course that is on the same level as stealing billions from the poor, letting hundreds of thousands starve, and aiding anti-Semites.....of course. Kazumaru, see [[Deceit]]. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 21:48, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Yes indeed. Those sadistic American torture techniques, making Mighty Islamic Warriors of God wear women's panties. What will the neighbors think? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:46, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* I appreciate you only disagreeing after you banned me, TK, however... I'm not referring to the panties-on-head thing. I'm referring solely to legitimate acts of torture, like [[Waterboarding]]. And I don't mean surfing.<br />
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::*Do you have any proof whatsoever, any proof that would fit WP's Attribution policies, and the criteria here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method#External_criticism:_authenticity_and_provenance Historical method: '''authenticity and provenance'''], to prove (a) waterboarding was '''ever''' approved by '''any''' US Govt. Executive Agency and/or Dept., and (b) (most importantly) waterboarding was '''ever used''' in recent years? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:47, 19 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* Haven't a clue what any of that has to do with deceit, though... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:32, 13 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== "More then half of Americans agree that their is liberal media bias"==<br />
Here is an interesting poll which gives more evidence of liberal media bias [http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070809222839.jzdcwmy8&show_article=1], you may want to consider adding that information to this article.--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:06, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Actually that ''is'' an interesting poll, but you're reading words into it that's not there. First, it simply says that 'more than half of Americans say new orgs...are biased'. It does '''not''' say 'liberal bias'. Many, many people do indeed believe the MSM is biased, and many believe it is biased towards the right. Bias is most obvious on Fox News, who make a mockery of their tacky marketing phrase 'Fair & Balanced'. Anybody can see their entire output is heavily slanted to the right (cf. the use of the phrase 'Homicide Bombers', the only org outside the White House to use the phrase; even the Army uses the phrase 'Suicide Bomber', as it's more accurate). But bias is also visible in places like the NYT, which have a tendency to bias left.<br />
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Bias is everywhere, and the sooner people on the Right understand that the Left believe this too, the better. If all sides of the argument see bias, maybe we should fix our news? [[User:PhilLynott|PhilLynott]] 22:20, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:That is a very interesting analysis; so liberals are pro-"suicide bomber" whereas right-wingers in the White House and FOX News oppose it. Even the Pentagon has jumped on the liberal bandwagon with this one, defying thier right-wing bosses and cow towing to the liberal slant. Hmmmm, that's news itself. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:30, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:We should include the quote from Diane Sawyer when she said she was being interviewed for jury duty. A lawyer asked her if she could be objective. She responded with something like, "I'm a journalist. I'm always objective." The Courtroom broke out into a roar of laughter. Sawyer says it was the most embarassing moment of her life. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:12, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Yes, after a second look it did not say liberal bias, thanks for the catch. But still, if you look through the article, it seems to imply leftest bias in the media. --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:33, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Poor Diane. :-( A long way from those long walks on the beach with Richard Nixon in exile. Sawyer was part of the very small staff working for Nixon post-exile. She had a nible mind, and a fierce dedication to Nixon. Then she moved East, married Mike Nichols...and what happened! --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 01:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:*[[Monica Crowley]] now is the spiritual heir of Nixon's thinking, although Hillary Clinton has been the most successful at the ballot box using everything she learned from Nixon. Amazing, how the true heirs of Nixonion thought all seem to be women. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:05, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
*Nixon said several times he was profoundly influenced by his Mother's values and thoughts....--<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 18:21, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 17 ==<br />
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Chamberlain was a Conservative; the last Liberal PM was Lloyd George (1916-22). (Source: http://www.annualreport.gov.uk/output/Page123.asp) [[User:G7mzh|G7mzh]] 10:18, 16 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:No, you see, he's an unpopular figure so he becomes a liberal by default. [[User:Fuzzy901|Fuzzy901]] 14:45, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Right. Let's call it "liberalism in reverse." [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 14:47, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*If John Kerry, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy all switched parties and/or announced they were "Conservative", would that make it so? Fuzzy, your thinking is fuzzy, it seems. Although I do admit it is sometimes difficult to translate conservative UK to conservative US. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:56, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::The broader question is over the [[Communazi pact]] and the policy of [[appeasement]]. Chamberlain, like [[Rudolf Hess]], thought peace between Germany & Great Britain was possible. Was Chamberlain a Communazi? I don't know, we'll have to look into it. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Did Chamberlain ever switch parties? It seems he was MP for the Conservative Party since 1918, took part in governments of the Conservative Party, and later became their leader. Please correct me if I am wrong. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:38, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 25 ==<br />
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The example 25 is incomprehensible. Can somebody rephrase it to make clear what the point actually is. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:19, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*That better? At this hour, it's about the best I can manage. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 03:42, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Point 25 is still confusing, close to being unintelligible. If CP wants to refer to it elsewhere, it better be clear what is meant. [[User:Order|Order]] 23:47, 26 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 24 ==<br />
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This point confuses me a little. The proof that someone's a liberal is their denial of it? Doesn't this inadvertently encompass those are actually <i>aren't</i> liberals? This is truly dangerous territory! (Imagine a mental disease is diagnosed by the patient's denial of having it - how do we actually find out whether someone actually has it or not? A normal person who logically says "I do not have this disease" is equally "proven" to have it then someone who actually has it, according to this example) [[User:ATang|ATang]] 10:33, 30 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Uncyclopedia ==<br />
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Add [[Uncyclopedia]] to the list at the top. They sport heavy liberal bias and hate speech against conservatives. May God have mercy on their souls for their blasphemy! '''<font color="#FFCC00">Scorp</font><font color="#773300">ion</font>'''<sup>[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]]</sup> 15:40, 8 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== 'Liberalism' ==<br />
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I go along with much of what is said but here in Brit the word 'liberal' has a somewhat different connotation. We have here three mainstrwam political parties: Labour (or, as it likes to call itself nowaday, 'New Labour' - even more extremist than 'old' Labour!), Conservative (aka 'Tory'), and Liberals (aka 'LibDems'!). There are a handful of other parties e.g. the BNP or British National Party, UKIP, the UK Independence Party, and there are a number of locality-based parties. Of the mainstream parties, the Tories are generally considered to be the party of the right but this is not necessarily so.<br />
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Historically, the Liberal Party (formerly the Whigs), now incorporated into the LibDems, was the party of the right at which time the Tories were considered to be 'middle of the road'!<br />
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Our biggest media presentation problem here is the BBC, which whilst repetedly saying they are 'independent' has in fact a disgusting 'liberal' agenda all of its own. And we have to cough up a hefty licence fee for watching television which goes into BBC coffers - even though we may not ever watch BBC! In fact, according to a strict interpretation of the law, we are strictly liable to pay this even if we ''never'' watch any TV but have a computer monitor! {{unsigned|Celtish}} 13:09, 14 September 2007<br />
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*Yes, Celtish! The true mark of Socialism, it is. You are invited to improve our article on the [[BBC]]. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 16:31, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
BBC is not a for profit entity, is it? unlike most of the so-called "mainstream" media in the US. Neither is BBC like the American Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which subsists on Jim & Tammy Faye Baker style beg-a-thons and the public purse. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:35, 14 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Rob, the BBC is more like PBS, than not, however. Both controlled by appointed boards, made by the Government, and funded, in whole or in part, by it. In the UK, unlike the U.S., they are forced to pay a tax to maintain the BBC, which, like I said, is more socialistic then what we have. Not better by much, however. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 17:05, 14 September 2007 (EDT)</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal_bias&diff=293252Talk:Liberal bias2007-09-14T20:09:33Z<p>Celtish: 'Liberalism'</p>
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== What is ...? ==<br />
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This article has no definition of what a Liberal Bias is.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 22:30, 11 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'd go for some citations, too. And some fries. :D [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 11:36, 12 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Should the Daily Show and Colbert Report be on here? Neither make any claim to be unbiased, and Jon Stewart has occasionally derided interviewers (most famously on Crossfire, when he wasn't calling them bad for America) for assuming he was a real news outlet and should be expected to act like one. There's a difference between, say, Air America (Liberal Spin, or Liberal Perspective, depending on how nice you are) and NPR (Liberal Bias) [[User:Momoka|Momoka]] 01:02 15 March 2007<br />
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:I agree, but if we remove the "Duh..." cases, we're basically left only with unsourced statements. ;) I'm not sure what the point of the article is, anyway. If the things in question have a liberal bias, just say it in the article and supply a source.</opinion> --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 08:40, 16 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::I also think this article should include a description of what [[liberal]] bias is so that the [[Conservative]]s amongst us know what to watch out for.<br />
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:The problem with liberal bias is not just the harm which advocacy of false liberal notions does (which is bad enough), but that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness. Many of them quite literally and sincerely consider themselves "middle of the road" (see [[Dan Rather]], as mentioned in Goldberg's ''[[Bias (book)]]''.<br />
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[[user:Hojimachong]] called this "original research". That stings a bit, because I'm a refugee from Wikipedia where "OR" is a big no-no. So I'll try to dig up some referencs for this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:21, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Okay, I think I've provided 2 citations for the idea that Liberals are oblivious to their liberalness and 1 citation for Dan Rather calling a Liberal newspaper "middle of the road". This still might not be up to encyclopedia quality, because it's only one source: [[Bernard Goldberg]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 01:41, 20 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== References that don't support the item they're referencing ==<br />
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Everything in it should have a citation. <br />
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And the citation should be a published statement by someone authoritative&mdash;a recognized conservative is fine, but not "me and my brother"&mdash;that ''says the thing in question is liberal.''<br />
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What set me off is that there '''is''' a reference for Dan Rather's being considered liberal. But the reference does not say Dan Rather is liberal. It says Dan Rather things the New York Times is middle-of-the-road. <br />
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There's a difference between "X says Dan Rather is liberal" and "Dan Rather says Y is middle-of-the-road."<br />
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Particularly when no source has been cited for the New York Times' supposed liberal bias. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 08:43, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
==According to this site==<br />
The nation's major media outlets ''seem'' to be owned by corporations which are by no means "liberal", except, perhaps, in the way they have liberally given to [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | politicians.]+--[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 11:54, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Conservative bias ==<br />
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Could someone who knows please consider writing the matching [[Conservative bias]] article listing Conservative news sources? I am surprised and confused that Conservapedia criticizes Wikipedia by claiming that most Americans are Conservative, but that what I see as America's most reliable news sources are all listed as having a liberal bias. Thankyou. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 11:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Done; I don't understand this either (but remember FOX News, purveyor of truth and justice ;), isn't listed), but the powers that be won't appreciate anyone changing it. [[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]<br />
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*Please! Whilst the majority of Americans are far more traditional/conservative than the news outlets are, and those who work for them, the fact that Fox News, in unbiased studies (and preception) is less "Liberal", it doesn't make Fox News "Conservative", just fair. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 20:36, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Why does the Conservative American public continue to buy and read such biased newspapers, radio and television stations, instead of putting their money where their mouth is and creating a reputable conservative alternative? Is Rupert Murdoch the only person who saw the ''majority'' of Americans as a potential market!? Does he/News Corp have major newspapers too, or just the Fox News television channel? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 23:48, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*News Corp is one of the world's largest media holding companies. Its holdings includes ''TV Guide'', ''Sky'' and ''Direct-TV'' satellite services, the various ''Fox'' networks, ''Harper-Collins'' publishing, The ''London Times'', New York ''Post'', dozens of newspapers in Australia and the ''20th Century Fox'' motion picture and television studios. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:02, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Disney owns ABC, Disney gave GWB's 2000 campaign 640K.<br />
:Westinghouse owns CBS. (No political contributions cited.)<br />
:General Electric owns NBC, GE gave GWB $1.1 million in 2000<br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS owns: CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%). Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers. <br />
:TIME-WARNER TBS gave GWB $1.6 million in 2000.<br />
:NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch BoD Phillip Morris):Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000.<br />
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*Rob, please don't make me embarass you, with your posting of totally distorted and biased figures. You are in my area of expertise, and most of those coroporations gave exactly the same, if not more, to Democratic Party candidates. You have to go to real stats, not moveon.org for them! --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I don't get embarrassed , only enlightened, [http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530.php | here] is my source. I defer to your expertise. Thank you for your kind attention to my little additions around here. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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:::Thanks TK. I meant ''American'' newspapers, as I know News Corp is the largest newspaper publisher in Australia. The only US newspaper you mentioned is the New York Post. Is that a widely-distributed and well-known newspaper like the NY Times and Washington Post, but Conservative? It's not mentioned in the references for liberal/conservative bias, that I can see. Is there widely perceived to be a liberal/conservative bias in the movie houses such as 20th Century Fox? --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::Cracker, the donation amounts to GWB don't tell me much without knowing whether they were given before or after he was the endorsed Republican presidential candidate - did they actually support him against Al Gore/John Kerry, or against other Republicans to ensure they had the right Republican? Note that while I (think I) understand the US political ''process'', I do not have a good grasp on the ''politics'' of the various people, along with many of the other non-American readers here, so may well be asking naive questions to someone in the system. Sorry, but if we don't ask, we don't learn. Your source is dated 2003, but was wrong anyway - it says News Corp owns Ansett Airlines. It sold its 50% interest in early 2000, and the airline went bust in 2001. I don't know if it got any media info wrong. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 01:24, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::I was only providing "who owns what" The campaign contributions just happened to be on the site I cited so I included that as well. I suppose my point was that Westinghouse, GE, News Corp, and Disney are not known in the USA as bastions of liberalism. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
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*That site must need some kind of Liberal password, cause it won't resolve for me..... :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 02:00, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Try it now. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub><br />
::Ouch! --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::GE and Westinghouse probably care more about Defense and electricity contracts and policies than they do about media bias. If they exercise editorial control, that is likely to be the focus. --[[User:Scott|Scott]] 02:17, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes, that would explain NBC hiring Rick Kaplan to run its news. :p Time-Warner, one should see that Ted Turner is one of the largest stockholders. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 03:19, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The [[BBC]] ==<br />
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*Austin Bay asked me to guest host the Pajamas Media "Blog Week In Review" podcast this week, so I interviewed Robin Aitken, the former BBC journalist and on-air personality who left the network and has written a new book, very much in the vein of Bernard Goldberg's books on American media bias, titled Can We Trust The BBC. I tried to aim the questions towards an American perspective on the topic, but then, how could I not? Aitken also discussed in depth the BBC's biases regarding Iraq, Israel, and the Palestinians. Regular readers of this blog won't exactly be shocked where the BBC comes down on these issues, but for those who still hold out a belief that the BBC is entirely objective, its an eye-opener. [http://eddriscoll.com/archives/cat_oh_that_liberal_media.php] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:02, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Technically the term "objective" is objective, therefore I wonder if it is differences in culture that can explain any bias by the BBC. Surely the BBC is less geared towards sensationalism then American media and it focuses on the issues that are being discussed rather then simply telling the masses where the majority of their opinion lies. This would be more encouraging of a neutral environment where the individual is left to make their own choices. Britain is considerably less puritian in its customs and culture as well as more liberal. The fact that a liberal bias may exist is less important, though then whether it allows for opposing views to be formed. I am unable to do anything more than simply offer a generalization, however, as issues are exceedingly complex and diverse as are the ways of covering them, but surely the issue is more complex then whether the BBC is biased or not.--[[User:Theseus|Theseus]] 22:16, 2 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== TK? ==<br />
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:(Protection log) (diff; hist) . . TK (Talk | contribs) (protected "Liberal bias": Warning of locking soon.... [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])<br />
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Explain, please... --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:50, 8 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Just checking to see how many keyholes you're peeping into. :p --~ [[User:TK|TK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 00:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It's locked? ==<br />
''Note: This page has been locked so that only registered users can edit it.''<br />
I am Gulik's complete lack of surprise. But last I checked, I _am_ a registered user. --[[User:Gulik2|Gulik2]] 01:34, 27 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Middle of the Road ==<br />
" During a phone conversation, Bernard Goldberg asked him, "What do you consider the New York Times? Rather answered, "Middle of the road." " <br />
:The article uses this quote to prove that Dan Rather has a liberal bias? That seems rather foolish to me considering that if left is liberal and right is conservative the middle would be no bias at all. [[User:Dilbert|Dilbert]] 02:27, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Communism for Dummies ==<br />
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Can anyone tell me what this is? The others are all famous, but I haven't heard of this one. It was entered by Hektor back in March, and he was later blocked for questionable edits, so I'd just like to verify we don't have a red herring here. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:03, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:It looks very suspicious. It should be removed because of the circumstances you just described. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 17:05, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Sigh. There is a whole line of books with the tag ....."For Dummies" explaining things like "Computers for Dummies", "Windows XP for Dummies", etc. Check Barnes and Noble's website. Or Amazon.com. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:31, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Yes my friend I have a few of those, but in regards to liberal bias if that is what was meant then that wouldn't exactly be a good example. I was just wondering if there was some infamous show or newspaper by that name that I wasn't aware of. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:52, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Ahh! Wasn't a valid link anyway! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 17:55, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Media bias ==<br />
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So... since no one can agree whether media etc. are "accused of having liberal bias" or "have well known liberal bias," why don't we follow [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandment #2]? If it's so obvious, shouldn't it be written somewhere objective? (And no, that page of out-of-context quotes about minor examples of bias can't be a source; at least not the only source). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 21:29, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:huh? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:58, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I seem to be rambling and in need of sleep. Let me try again: we are on the cusp of a revert war over the issue of whether the media is "accused" of having a liberal bias, or whether they have a "well known" liberal bias. Why don't we just add some sources instead of reverting? See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments CP Commandments #2 and #5], as well as the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Help:Editing_etiquette Editing Etiquette] ''("put your "facts" in neutral terms. For example, Secular geologists believe that the world is 4.5 billion years old is better than The world is 4.5 billion years old")''. According to the rules, both versions of the statement in contention are not acceptible in their current form. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::ok.. so you mean like, "according to longtime media watcher and analyst so-and-so the [[MSM]] is dominated by commie stooges & useful idiots", for example? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 23:42, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::Uh, yeah, as long as it follows the [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments#_note-1 footnote] to commandment two: "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others." Though good luck finding an authoritative source calling the NYTimes "commie stooges & useful idiots" ;-) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 23:57, 1 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Great sourcing on the CBS News bias, Rob. I don't think we will see Uncle Walter issuing an apology will we? --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 02:05, 8 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== The United Nations? ==<br />
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I'm not sure if the United Nations fits in here. It's a liberal organization, yes, but it wouldn't seem right to put, say, the ACLU or the Democratic Party in here, as it's not a media organization per se. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:50, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:A gathering of nations in a forum for discussion originally created to prevent a third world war is inherently liberal? [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 19:39, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Actually, yes, if you use a different definition of the word liberal. In international politic theory the spectrum is more often broken into "realist" and "liberal". In a nutshell, a realist believes in the use of power and force to ensure security and enforce policy, and a liberal believes in organizations to ensure security and enforce policy. In these terms, the UN is the definition of a liberal solution :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 20:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::: You make [[liberalism]] sound less like [[evil]] than some others here. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::In the olden days, Americans could always say, "Let the UN handle it;" thank the Lord for Conservapedia, cause now we can see just exactly what this attitude of letting "UN Peacekeepers handle it" really means: [[United Nations#UN Sexual Abuse Scandals]]. [[User:Robs|Rob Smith]] 20:42, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::::"Just let the Americans handle it" worked well too, until the Abu Ghraib pictures were leaked. [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 21:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Yes! One should be highly offended at terrorists and criminals being humiliated! Of course that is on the same level as stealing billions from the poor, letting hundreds of thousands starve, and aiding anti-Semites.....of course. Kazumaru, see [[Deceit]]. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 21:48, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:*Yes indeed. Those sadistic American torture techniques, making Mighty Islamic Warriors of God wear women's panties. What will the neighbors think? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:46, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* I appreciate you only disagreeing after you banned me, TK, however... I'm not referring to the panties-on-head thing. I'm referring solely to legitimate acts of torture, like [[Waterboarding]]. And I don't mean surfing.<br />
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::*Do you have any proof whatsoever, any proof that would fit WP's Attribution policies, and the criteria here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method#External_criticism:_authenticity_and_provenance Historical method: '''authenticity and provenance'''], to prove (a) waterboarding was '''ever''' approved by '''any''' US Govt. Executive Agency and/or Dept., and (b) (most importantly) waterboarding was '''ever used''' in recent years? [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 15:47, 19 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:* Haven't a clue what any of that has to do with deceit, though... [[User:Kazumaru|Kazumaru]] 20:32, 13 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== "More then half of Americans agree that their is liberal media bias"==<br />
Here is an interesting poll which gives more evidence of liberal media bias [http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070809222839.jzdcwmy8&show_article=1], you may want to consider adding that information to this article.--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:06, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Actually that ''is'' an interesting poll, but you're reading words into it that's not there. First, it simply says that 'more than half of Americans say new orgs...are biased'. It does '''not''' say 'liberal bias'. Many, many people do indeed believe the MSM is biased, and many believe it is biased towards the right. Bias is most obvious on Fox News, who make a mockery of their tacky marketing phrase 'Fair & Balanced'. Anybody can see their entire output is heavily slanted to the right (cf. the use of the phrase 'Homicide Bombers', the only org outside the White House to use the phrase; even the Army uses the phrase 'Suicide Bomber', as it's more accurate). But bias is also visible in places like the NYT, which have a tendency to bias left.<br />
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Bias is everywhere, and the sooner people on the Right understand that the Left believe this too, the better. If all sides of the argument see bias, maybe we should fix our news? [[User:PhilLynott|PhilLynott]] 22:20, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:That is a very interesting analysis; so liberals are pro-"suicide bomber" whereas right-wingers in the White House and FOX News oppose it. Even the Pentagon has jumped on the liberal bandwagon with this one, defying thier right-wing bosses and cow towing to the liberal slant. Hmmmm, that's news itself. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:30, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:We should include the quote from Diane Sawyer when she said she was being interviewed for jury duty. A lawyer asked her if she could be objective. She responded with something like, "I'm a journalist. I'm always objective." The Courtroom broke out into a roar of laughter. Sawyer says it was the most embarassing moment of her life. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 22:12, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Yes, after a second look it did not say liberal bias, thanks for the catch. But still, if you look through the article, it seems to imply leftest bias in the media. --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:33, 9 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Poor Diane. :-( A long way from those long walks on the beach with Richard Nixon in exile. Sawyer was part of the very small staff working for Nixon post-exile. She had a nible mind, and a fierce dedication to Nixon. Then she moved East, married Mike Nichols...and what happened! --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 01:23, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:*[[Monica Crowley]] now is the spiritual heir of Nixon's thinking, although Hillary Clinton has been the most successful at the ballot box using everything she learned from Nixon. Amazing, how the true heirs of Nixonion thought all seem to be women. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 13:05, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
*Nixon said several times he was profoundly influenced by his Mother's values and thoughts....--<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 18:21, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 17 ==<br />
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Chamberlain was a Conservative; the last Liberal PM was Lloyd George (1916-22). (Source: http://www.annualreport.gov.uk/output/Page123.asp) [[User:G7mzh|G7mzh]] 10:18, 16 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:No, you see, he's an unpopular figure so he becomes a liberal by default. [[User:Fuzzy901|Fuzzy901]] 14:45, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::Right. Let's call it "liberalism in reverse." [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 14:47, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*If John Kerry, Al Gore and Ted Kennedy all switched parties and/or announced they were "Conservative", would that make it so? Fuzzy, your thinking is fuzzy, it seems. Although I do admit it is sometimes difficult to translate conservative UK to conservative US. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 14:56, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::The broader question is over the [[Communazi pact]] and the policy of [[appeasement]]. Chamberlain, like [[Rudolf Hess]], thought peace between Germany & Great Britain was possible. Was Chamberlain a Communazi? I don't know, we'll have to look into it. [[User:RobS|Rob Smith]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Did Chamberlain ever switch parties? It seems he was MP for the Conservative Party since 1918, took part in governments of the Conservative Party, and later became their leader. Please correct me if I am wrong. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:38, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 25 ==<br />
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The example 25 is incomprehensible. Can somebody rephrase it to make clear what the point actually is. [[User:Order|Order]] 02:19, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*That better? At this hour, it's about the best I can manage. --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 03:42, 20 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Point 25 is still confusing, close to being unintelligible. If CP wants to refer to it elsewhere, it better be clear what is meant. [[User:Order|Order]] 23:47, 26 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Example 24 ==<br />
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This point confuses me a little. The proof that someone's a liberal is their denial of it? Doesn't this inadvertently encompass those are actually <i>aren't</i> liberals? This is truly dangerous territory! (Imagine a mental disease is diagnosed by the patient's denial of having it - how do we actually find out whether someone actually has it or not? A normal person who logically says "I do not have this disease" is equally "proven" to have it then someone who actually has it, according to this example) [[User:ATang|ATang]] 10:33, 30 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Add [[Uncyclopedia]] to the list at the top. They sport heavy liberal bias and hate speech against conservatives. May God have mercy on their souls for their blasphemy! '''<font color="#FFCC00">Scorp</font><font color="#773300">ion</font>'''<sup>[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]]</sup> 15:40, 8 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I go along with much of what is said but here in Brit the word 'liberal' has a somewhat different connotation. We have here three mainstrwam political parties: Labour (or, as it likes to call itself nowaday, 'New Labour' - even more extremist than 'old' Labour!), Conservative (aka 'Tory'), and Liberals (aka 'LibDems'!).<br />
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Our biggest media presentation problem here is the BBC, which whilst repetedly saying they are 'independent' has in fact a disgusting 'liberal' agenda all of its own. And we have to cough up a hefty licence fee for watching television which goes into BBC coffers - even though we may not ever watch BBC! In fact, according to a strict interpretation of the law, we are strictly liable to pay this even if we ''never'' watch any TV but have a computer monitor!</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Celtish&diff=293230User talk:Celtish2007-09-14T19:51:28Z<p>Celtish: /* added */</p>
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<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. <br />
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==History==<br />
[[Feminism]] is originally an acknowledged medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
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Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
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The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
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The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
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During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
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==Quotations== <br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon <br />
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"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." - Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor <br />
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"I haven't the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero-sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary-vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don't mean that. Yes, I really do" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies <br />
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"I am woman! I am invincible! I am pooped!" - Author Unknown <br />
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"The feminista agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" - Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992 <br />
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"The people I'm furious with are the Women's Liberationists. They keep getting up on soapboxes and proclaiming women are brighter than men. That's true, but it should be kept quiet or it ruins the whole racket" - Anita Loos <br />
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"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex" - [[Valerie Solanas]], [[SCUM]] founder (Society for Cutting Up Men) <br />
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"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things" - Jilly Cooper, [[SCUM]] (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by [[Valerie Solanas]]) <br />
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"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW <br />
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"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"In my own life, I don't have intercourse. That is my choice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Q: People think you are very hostile to men A: "I am" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men use the night to erase us" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6 <br />
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"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression" - Sheila Jeffrys <br />
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"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs" - Catharine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; Universities of Michigan & Yale) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in ''Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies'' <br />
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"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men" - Sharon Stone, Actress <br />
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All men are good for is f---ing, and running over with a truck - statement made by an University of Maine Feminist Administrator and overheard by [[Richard Dinsmore]] who brought a successful civil suit against the university in the amount of $600,000. Richard had objected to what was said and as a result was dismissed on the grounds of 'harassment'. He responded by bringing suit against the university, 1995 settlement <br />
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"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive ... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo" - Jodie Foster, Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine <br />
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"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race" - Sally Miller Gearhart, in ''The Future - If There Is One - Is Female'' <br />
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"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference" - Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime <br />
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"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males" - Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001 <br />
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"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them" - David Angier <br />
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"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience" - Catherine Comins <br />
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"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women ... he can sexually molest his daughters ... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE" - Marilyn French (her emphasis) <br />
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My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter" - Marilyn French; The Woman's Room <br />
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"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women ... All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men's prey" - Marilyn French <br />
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"All men are rapists and that's all they are" - Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign) <br />
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"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations ... obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign" - Marilyn French <br />
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"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it" - Barbara Jordan, former congresswoman <br />
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"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release" - [[Germaine Greer]] <br />
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"Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence" - Judith Levine, Authoress <br />
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"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, 'hate in love' for the men women share their lives with - husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, co-workers." - Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love <br />
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"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of 'sex acts' ... includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder" - Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document (A Southern Women's Writing Collective: Women Against Sex) <br />
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((Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as "The F---ing Molesters Society" (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feminist psychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory)) <br />
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((At the STONE ANGELS satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay in February, 1995, the following was contained in the handouts at a conference supported financially by the Ontario Government: FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY)) <br />
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"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do" -- Popular Feminist Graffiti <br />
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"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father's concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What's more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal" - Sylvia Fraser, Journalist <br />
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Catharine MacKinnon maintains that "the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women's exploited labor." In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state's nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid - ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed - they're "hiding from the truth" The family isn't a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don't simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to "breed" them for that purpose - Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al, tenets of misandric belief) <br />
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"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal - a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students - I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment ... of persuading students that women are oppressed" - Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women <br />
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"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact." - Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood. <br />
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Another posting on FEMISA: "Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men's violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers." (Both above quotes taken from Daphne Patai's excellent critical work, Heterophobia) <br />
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"At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert... writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages." - Heather Hart 7 <br />
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Here are 10 reasons why we are concerned about feminism and the National Organisation for Women <br />
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1. "The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times, January, 1988 <br />
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2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - feminist leader Sheila Cronan <br />
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3. In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world" - Gary Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China" The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989 <br />
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4. "Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole ... patriarch!" - [[Gloria Steinem]], radical feminist leader, editor of Ms. Magazine <br />
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5. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women.... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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6. "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God" - [[Gloria Steinem]], editor of Ms. Magazine) <br />
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7. "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women ... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist 'salvation' of this world" - Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist Salvation," The Humanist, p. 37, July/August 1988 <br />
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8. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" - Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman <br />
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9. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" - Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981 <br />
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10. "The most merciful thing a large family can to do one of its infant members is to kill it" - Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in "Women and the New Race" p. 67 <br />
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"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton <br />
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From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985: <br />
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MALE: ... represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants ... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female <br />
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MAN: ... an obsolete life form ... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ...a contradictory baby-man ... <br />
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TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning" <br />
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Letter to editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" "... Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is: if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down" Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia. 9 February, 1996 <br />
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“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism” - Catharine MacKinnon<br />
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The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
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<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
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The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
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<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
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*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Help_talk:Contents&diff=293206Help talk:Contents2007-09-14T19:24:54Z<p>Celtish: Why? Why?</p>
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<div>How do I revert a vandalized page to a previous state? I recently tried to change back a vandalized page but could not figure out how to put in the original references at the end of the article. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 18:38, 21 February 2007 (EST)<br />
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Good Question! Click on the contribs for the user who made the changes. Beside the edit, there is a button that says "rollback". Click that and the edit will be reverted. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] 18:40, 21 February 2007 (EST)<br />
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: That method only works if you are a "sysop" (admin). I would recommend just copying the changed stuff fromt he previous revision. [[User:PhilipB|PhilipB]] 18:42, 21 February 2007 (EST)<br />
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I figured out how to do it by clicking the date of the previous edit before the vandalism under that page's history. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 18:46, 21 February 2007 (EST)<br />
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I've looked around but I can't figure out how to leave a signature when I post to a discussion page. Can someone help? Thanks.<br />
:Just type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for your signature. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 19:01, 14 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==What is with this site?==<br />
Every third click gets a "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" message. What gives? [[User:Ga ohoyt|Ga ohoyt]] 00:55, 17 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Interwiki links==<br />
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Sure would be convenient if we could link to Wikipedia without having to type all that http stuff. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:01, 19 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
: From what I've been able to tell, links to Wikipedia seem to be looked down upon a bit. Though some users here are also from [[CreationWiki]], and that might be another one that people might want to link to. I guess it takes some [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking direct poking at the database] to set these up... perhaps {{user|Conservapedia Webmaster}} would be the one to do this? --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 13:19, 19 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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The two entries, "How to upload a image" and "How to place an image on a page" are exactly the same....--~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 03:06, 29 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I need help trying to upload images on my computer and says that .jpg is not a recommended file name. I saw it as one of the several options to do on the upload page. I got the file name and filled in the summary. What's wrong? --[[User:Additioner|Additioner]] 18:26, 7 April 2007 <br />
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==Formatting==<br />
Is there a standard format for pages? Are there examples of that? Shouldn't that be listed here? Do you have notability standards at all? If not, can I make a page about my mom? [[User:IMFromKathlene|IMFromKathlene]] 05:34, 30 March 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Blocked Users/IP Addresses.... ==<br />
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Is this something all users will be able to see?<br />
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Someone posted over on Andy's page, with privacy concerns about the IP thing. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]</sup> 08:41, 2 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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If the Webmaster will institute a page for Metals or Metallurgy, I will begin to add a number of terms and definitions as well as other information to that page that may be helpful to others that are looking for information on that topic. PhilH.<br />
:You can create the page yourself, not hard. Do a search for it, then click the "start new page" link. This is a wiki, you can contribute.[[User:Hengineer|Hengineer]] 10:04, 25 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Creating a path to essay of a subject new to Conservapedia ==<br />
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I have created a page on a topic of abortion, but it is almost non-findable. I need to know how to make it findable. Right now, I think the only way to find it is by searching for "Separate Life". Not many people are going to know that they should do this.<br />
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The way I thought it should be is this:<br />
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2) Click on Separate Life in the Contents<br />
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So I need to know how to list it in the Contents.<br />
I would also then need to know how to make a link so that if one clicks on Separate Life, his computer would take him to the Separate Life page. [[User:Earl100|Earl100]]<br />
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*You could create a new page, and move the old one to it, no?--[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 03:36, 12 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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No. I don't even understand that.<br />
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*I will refer this to the CPWebmaster, whom I know can help you! --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 14:29, 15 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I would suggest two ways to do this. One would be to put one or more categories at the bottom of the page, like this : <nowiki>[[category:medicine]]</nowiki> - and preview to make sure the cats exist; or look on the list of categories that "category" will then link to to find one or more appropriate cats. Each category gets its own tag. It is suggested that all articles should be categorized, by the way. The other way is to look for articles on similar topics, and see if they should mention the topic of your new article. If so, include such a sentence or mention (or a "See Also") and link them to your file. Just make sure it makes sense in the article you link from. Hope this helps! [[User:Human|Human]] 15:24, 15 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Earl, if you want to make a link to a page enclose the title of the page in two brackets, like this, <nowiki>[[Separate Life]]</nowiki>. I just added your essay to the bottom of the [[abortion]] page as "Essay on abortion." Let me know if you need any more help. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 15:46, 15 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== How do I create a Category page? ==<br />
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How do I create a Category page? I am trying to create the category of [[Accounting terms]] (for the [[asset]], [[liability]], and [[Balance Sheet]] pages) but I don't know how to do it - can anyone help, please? thanks --[[User:Taj|Taj]] 23:40, 13 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Where your articles have [[:category|Accounting terms]] at the bottom of the page (under "category"), click on that red link, and you will find yourself on the [[:category|Accounting terms]] page, which will list the three articles. in a sense, you've already done it! But in order to turn those red links into blue links, put something in the edit box on that page, so that the page contains more than just the list. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:57, 14 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:: Thank you very much for the explanation! It was so simple to do that I feel foolish now, lol :p The difficulty came because I wasn't typing anything in the edit box, thinking the list of pages would be automatically generated with the new page (it was, but I needed to type something too). Again, thank you. --[[User:Taj|Taj]] 14:24, 14 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Uploading images ==<br />
I understand about the ability to upload images, but I am lost at what kind of images should be uploaded to Wikipedia and what image licenses should be avoided or not. Thanks. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 16:44, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*You need to ask Wikipedia about that! :p --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 17:16, 10 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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**Ok, sorry about that. I meant to say Conservapedia (it's getting hard typing the new name out, to be honest). I ask the question of uploading images, since I know about two image resources we can use for photos, mostly of state leaders. I just wasn't sure what your policies were. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 14:58, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Most State Leaders are considered Public Domain, especially when taken from government sites. If you can be more specific, I can attempt to answer you, or (more likely) find you the answer ;-). --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 15:01, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
**The websites I plan on uploading the images from are from Kremlin.ru and, hopefully, president.gov.by. They are the official websites of the Russian and Belarusian presidency, respectively. I will provide the text, in English, in a few. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 15:12, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
**Ok, from the President of Belarus: ''Use of materials of the portal - The materials of portal can be used in the media, be extended in the network the Internet without any limitations on volume and periods of publication. Reference to the ultimate source is only condition. No preliminary agreement to the use of materials of portal from the side of the press- service of the President of republic Belarus' it is required. '' [http://www.president.gov.by/press28825.html]. For the President of Russia, please read [http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/articles/about_siteEng06.shtml]. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 15:18, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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''"All materials on the Presidential website may be reproduced in any media outlets, on Internet servers or on any other information supports without restriction on the amount of material and time of publication. This authorisation covers equally newspapers, magazines, radio stations, TV channels '''and Internet sites.''' The only condition is that any reproduction or broadcasting of the website’s materials contain a reference to the original source. No prior approval from the Presidential Press and Information Office is required to reprint information from the website."''<br />
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So you merely state in the comment box when you upload, that the picture is "free use". :-) --<font color="#0002AC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]]</font><sup><font color="OOFFAA">[[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]]</font></sup> 16:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Alright, thanks a bunch. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] 17:41, 13 August 2007 (EDT)<br />
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<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. <br />
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==History==<br />
[[Feminism]] is originally an acknowledged medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
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Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
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The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
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The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
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During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
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"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon <br />
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"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." - Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor <br />
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"I haven't the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero-sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary-vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don't mean that. Yes, I really do" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies <br />
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"I am woman! I am invincible! I am pooped!" - Author Unknown <br />
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"The feminista agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" - Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992 <br />
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"The people I'm furious with are the Women's Liberationists. They keep getting up on soapboxes and proclaiming women are brighter than men. That's true, but it should be kept quiet or it ruins the whole racket" - Anita Loos <br />
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"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex" - [[Valerie Solanas]], [[SCUM]] founder ([[Society for Cutting Up Men]]) <br />
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"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things" - Jilly Cooper, [[SCUM]] ([[Society For Cutting Up Men]], started by [[Valerie Solanas]]) <br />
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"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW <br />
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"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"In my own life, I don't have intercourse. That is my choice" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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Q: People think you are very hostile to men A: "I am" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men use the night to erase us" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives" - [[Andrea Dworkin]] <br />
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"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom" - [[Andrea Dworkin]], Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6 <br />
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"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression" - Sheila Jeffrys <br />
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"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs" - Catharine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; Universities of Michigan & Yale) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in ''Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies'' <br />
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"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men" - Sharon Stone, Actress <br />
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All men are good for is f---ing, and running over with a truck - statement made by an University of Maine Feminist Administrator and overheard by [[Richard Dinsmore]] who brought a successful civil suit against the university in the amount of $600,000. Richard had objected to what was said and as a result was dismissed on the grounds of 'harassment'. He responded by bringing suit against the university, 1995 settlement <br />
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"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive ... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo" - Jodie Foster, Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine <br />
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"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race" - Sally Miller Gearhart, in ''The Future - If There Is One - Is Female'' <br />
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"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference" - Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime <br />
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"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males" - Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001 <br />
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"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them" - David Angier <br />
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"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience" - Catherine Comins <br />
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"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women ... he can sexually molest his daughters ... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE" - Marilyn French (her emphasis) <br />
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My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter" - Marilyn French; The Woman's Room <br />
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"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women ... All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men's prey" - Marilyn French <br />
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"All men are rapists and that's all they are" - Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign) <br />
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"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations ... obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign" - Marilyn French <br />
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"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it" - Barbara Jordan, former congresswoman <br />
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"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release" - [[Germaine Greer]] <br />
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"Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence" - Judith Levine, Authoress <br />
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"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, 'hate in love' for the men women share their lives with - husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, co-workers." - Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love <br />
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"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of 'sex acts' ... includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder" - Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document (A Southern Women's Writing Collective: Women Against Sex) <br />
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((Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as "The F---ing Molesters Society" (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feminist psychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory)) <br />
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((At the STONE ANGELS satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay in February, 1995, the following was contained in the handouts at a conference supported financially by the Ontario Government: FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY)) <br />
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"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do" -- Popular Feminist Graffiti <br />
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"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father's concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What's more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal" - Sylvia Fraser, Journalist <br />
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Catharine MacKinnon maintains that "the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women's exploited labor." In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state's nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid - ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed - they're "hiding from the truth" The family isn't a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don't simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to "breed" them for that purpose - Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al, tenets of misandric belief) <br />
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"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal - a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students - I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment ... of persuading students that women are oppressed" - Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women <br />
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"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact." - Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood. <br />
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Another posting on FEMISA: "Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men's violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers." (Both above quotes taken from Daphne Patai's excellent critical work, Heterophobia) <br />
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"At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert... writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages." - Heather Hart 7 <br />
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Here are 10 reasons why we are concerned about feminism and the National Organisation for Women <br />
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1. "The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times, January, 1988 <br />
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2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - feminist leader Sheila Cronan <br />
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3. In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world" - Gary Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China" The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989 <br />
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4. "Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole ... patriarch!" - [[Gloria Steinem]], radical feminist leader, editor of Ms. Magazine <br />
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5. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women.... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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6. "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God" - [[Gloria Steinem]], editor of Ms. Magazine) <br />
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7. "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women ... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist 'salvation' of this world" - Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist Salvation," The Humanist, p. 37, July/August 1988 <br />
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8. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" - Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman <br />
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9. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" - Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981 <br />
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10. "The most merciful thing a large family can to do one of its infant members is to kill it" - Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in "Women and the New Race" p. 67 <br />
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"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton <br />
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From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985: <br />
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MALE: ... represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants ... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female <br />
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MAN: ... an obsolete life form ... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ...a contradictory baby-man ... <br />
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TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning" <br />
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Letter to editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" "... Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is: if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down" Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia. 9 February, 1996 <br />
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“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism” - Catharine MacKinnon<br />
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The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
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<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
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The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
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<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=293171Feminism2007-09-14T18:52:53Z<p>Celtish: /* Quotations */</p>
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<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. <br />
<br />
==History==<br />
[[Feminism]] is originally an acknowledged medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
<br />
Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
<br />
The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
<br />
The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
<br />
During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
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==Quotations== <br />
"The nuclear family must be destroyed ... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process" - Linda Gordon <br />
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"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." - Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor <br />
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"I haven't the faintest notion what possible revolutionary role white hetero-sexual men could fulfill, since they are the very embodiment of reactionary-vested-interest-power. But then, I have great difficulty examining what men in general could possibly do about all this. In addition to doing the shitwork that women have been doing for generations, possibly not exist? No, I really don't mean that. Yes, I really do" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women ... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies <br />
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"I am woman! I am invincible! I am pooped!" - Author Unknown <br />
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"The feminista agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" - Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992 <br />
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"The people I'm furious with are the Women's Liberationists. They keep getting up on soapboxes and proclaiming women are brighter than men. That's true, but it should be kept quiet or it ruins the whole racket" - Anita Loos <br />
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"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire" - Robin Morgan <br />
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"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex" - Valerie Solanas, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men) <br />
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"The male is a domestic animal which, if treated with firmness...can be trained to do most things" - Jilly Cooper, SCUM (Society For Cutting Up Men, started by Valerie Solanas) <br />
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"Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW <br />
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"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"In my own life, I don't have intercourse. That is my choice" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"To be rapeable, a position that is social, not biological, defines what a woman is" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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Q: People think you are very hostile to men A: "I am" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"Men use the night to erase us" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"Men love death. In everything they make, they hollow out a central place for death, let its rancid smell contaminate every dimension of whatever still survives. Men especially love murder. In art they celebrate it, and in life they commit it. They embrace murder as if life without it would be devoid of passion, meaning, and action, as if murder were solace, stilling their sobs as they mourn the emptiness and alienation of their lives" - Andrea Dworkin <br />
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"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination" - Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"On the Left, on the Right, in the Middle; Authors, statesmen, thieves; so-called humanists and self-declared fascists; the adventurous and the contemplative, in every realm of male expression and action, violence is experienced and articulated as love and freedom" - Andrea Dworkin, Pornography: Men Possessing Women <br />
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"The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Feminism is the theory, lesbianism is the practice" - Ti-Grace Atkinson <br />
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"Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" - Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will p.6 <br />
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"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression" - Sheila Jeffrys <br />
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"Politically, I call it rape whenever a woman has sex and feels violated" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman" - Catharine MacKinnon <br />
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"You grow up with your father holding you down and covering your mouth so another man can make a horrible searing pain between your legs" - Catharine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; Universities of Michigan & Yale) <br />
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"In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent" - Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies <br />
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"The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men" - Sharon Stone, Actress <br />
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All men are good for is f---ing, and running over with a truck - statement made by an University of Maine Feminist Administrator and overheard by Richard Dinsmore who brought a successful civil suit against the university in the amount of $600,000. Richard had objected to what was said and as a result was dismissed on the grounds of 'harassment'. He responded by bringing suit against the university, 1995 settlement <br />
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"Ninety-five percent of women's experiences are about being a victim. Or about being an underdog, or having to survive ... women didn't go to Vietnam and blow things up. They are not Rambo" - Jodie Foster, Actress - as quoted in The New York Times Magazine <br />
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"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race" - Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female <br />
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"And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference" - Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime <br />
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"If life is to survive on this planet, there must be a decontamination of the Earth. I think this will be accompanied by an evolutionary process that will result in a drastic reduction of the population of males" - Mary Daly, former Professor at Boston College, 2001 <br />
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"If anyone is prosecuted for filing a false report, then victims of real attacks will be less likely to report them" - David Angier <br />
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"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience" - Catherine Comins <br />
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"As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women ... he can sexually molest his daughters ... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE" - Marilyn French (her emphasis) <br />
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My feelings about men are the result of my experience. I have little sympathy for them. Like a Jew just released from Dachau, I watch the handsome young Nazi soldier fall writhing to the ground with a bullet in his stomach and I look briefly and walk on. I don't even need to shrug. I simply don't care. What he was, as a person, I mean, what his shames and yearnings were, simply don't matter" - Marilyn French; The Woman's Room <br />
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"All patriarchists exalt the home and family as sacred, demanding it remain inviolate from prying eyes. Men want privacy for their violations of women ... All women learn in childhood that women as a sex are men's prey" - Marilyn French <br />
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"All men are rapists and that's all they are" - Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign) <br />
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"The media treat male assaults on women like rape, beating, and murder of wives and female lovers, or male incest with children, as individual aberrations ... obscuring the fact that all male violence toward women is part of a concerted campaign" - Marilyn French <br />
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"I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it" - Barbara Jordan, former congresswoman <br />
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"Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release" - Germaine Greer <br />
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"Man-hating is everywhere, but everywhere it is twisted and transformed, disguised, tranquilized, and qualified. It coexists, never peacefully, with the love, desire, respect, and need women also feel for men. Always man-hating is shadowed by its milder, more diplomatic and doubtful twin, ambivalence" - Judith Levine, Authoress <br />
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"I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men. It is hatred not only for the anonymous man who makes sucking noises on the street, not only for the rapist or the judge who acquits him, but for what the Greeks called philo-aphilos, 'hate in love' for the men women share their lives with - husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, co-workers." - Judith Levine, Authoress of My Enemy, My love <br />
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"There are no boundaries between affectionate sex and slavery in (the male) world. Distinctions between pleasure and danger are academic; the dirty-laundrylist of 'sex acts' ... includes rape, foot binding, fellatio, intercourse, auto eroticism, incest, anal intercourse, use and production of pornography, cunnilingus, sexual harassment, and murder" - Judith Levine; summarizing comment on the WAS document (A Southern Women's Writing Collective: Women Against Sex) <br />
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((Delaney Nickerson, of the American Coalition for ABUSE AWARENESS, refers to the False Memory Syndrome Foundation as "The F---ing Molesters Society" (Miami Herald, April 3, 1995) The ACAA is a lobbying group, which includes Ellen Bass (co-author of THE COURAGE TO HEAL), and Rene Frederickson, leading feminist psychotherapist and strong proponent of repressed memory theory)) <br />
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((At the STONE ANGELS satanic ritual abuse conference in Thunder Bay in February, 1995, the following was contained in the handouts at a conference supported financially by the Ontario Government: FMS stands for: FULL OF MOSTLY SHIT; FOR MORE SADISM; FELONS, MURDERERS, SCUMBALLS; FREQUENT MOLESTERS SOCIETY)) <br />
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"Women have their faults / men have only two: / everything they say / everything they do" -- Popular Feminist Graffiti <br />
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"I was, in reality, bred by my parents as my father's concubine... What we take for granted as the stability of family life may well depend on the sexual slavery of our children. What's more, this is a cynical arrangement our institutions have colluded to conceal" - Sylvia Fraser, Journalist <br />
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Catharine MacKinnon maintains that "the private is a sphere of battery, marital rape and women's exploited labor." In this way, privacy and family are reduced to nothing more than aspects of the master plan, which is male domination. Democratic freedoms and the need to keep the state's nose out of our personal affairs are rendered meaningless. The real reason our society cherishes privacy is because men have invented it as an excuse to conceal their criminality. If people still insist that the traditional family is about love and mutual aid - ideals which, admittedly, are sometimes betrayed - they're "hiding from the truth" The family isn't a place where battery and marital rape sometimes happen but where little else apparently does. Sick men don't simply molest their daughters, they operate in league with their wives to "breed" them for that purpose - Donna Laframboise; The Princess at the Window (in a critical explication of the Catharine MacKinnon, Gloria Steinhem et al, tenets of misandric belief) <br />
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"If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal - a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students - I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment ... of persuading students that women are oppressed" - Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women <br />
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"Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact." - Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood. <br />
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Another posting on FEMISA: "Considering the nature and pervasiveness of men's violence, I would say that without question, children are better off being raised without the presence of men. Assaults on women and children are mostly perpetrated by men whom they are supposed to love and trust: fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, step-fathers." (Both above quotes taken from Daphne Patai's excellent critical work, Heterophobia) <br />
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"At Brandies I discovered Feminism. And I instantly became a convert... writing brilliant papers in my Myths of Patriarchy class, in which I likened my fate as a woman to other victims throughout the ages." - Heather Hart 7 <br />
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Here are 10 reasons why we are concerned about feminism and the National Organisation for Women <br />
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1. "The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist" - National NOW Times, January, 1988 <br />
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2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage" - feminist leader Sheila Cronan <br />
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3. In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world" - Gary Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China" The Washington Times, Oct. 10, 1989 <br />
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4. "Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the whole ... patriarch!" - Gloria Steinem, radical feminist leader, editor of Ms. Magazine <br />
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5. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women.... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men ... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" (from "The Declaration of Feminism" November, 1971) <br />
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6. "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God" - Gloria Steinem, editor of Ms. Magazine) <br />
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7. "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace, and inspiration from real women ... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the feminist 'salvation' of this world" - Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist Salvation," The Humanist, p. 37, July/August 1988 <br />
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8. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them" - Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College, and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman <br />
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9. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family- maker is a choice that shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that" - Vivian Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, The Daily Illini, April 25, 1981 <br />
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10. "The most merciful thing a large family can to do one of its infant members is to kill it" - Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in "Women and the New Race" p. 67 <br />
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"We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton <br />
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From 'A feminist Dictionary; ed. Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985: <br />
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MALE: ... represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants ... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female <br />
<br />
MAN: ... an obsolete life form ... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ...a contradictory baby-man ... <br />
<br />
TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning" <br />
<br />
Letter to editor: "Women's Turn to Dominate" "... Clearly you are not yet a free-thinking feminist but rather one of those women who bounce off the male-dominated, male-controlled social structures. Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is: if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down" Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia. 9 February, 1996 <br />
<br />
“Feminism, Socialism, and Communism are one in the same, and Socialist/Communist government is the goal of feminism” - Catharine MacKinnon<br />
<br />
The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
<br />
<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
<br />
The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
<br />
<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=293144Feminism2007-09-14T18:31:52Z<p>Celtish: /* History */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. <br />
<br />
==History==<br />
[[Feminism]] is originally an acknowledged medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
<br />
Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
<br />
The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
<br />
The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
<br />
During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
<br />
==Quotations== <br />
<br />
The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
<br />
<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
<br />
The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
<br />
<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references/><br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=293141Feminism2007-09-14T18:30:20Z<p>Celtish: /* History */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Feminism''' is a philosophy which argues for equal treatment and responsibilities for men and women, and boys and girls. <br />
<br />
==History==<br />
[[Feminism]] is orininally a medical condition where men take on female physical characteristics. The expression was taken up by the campaigners - originally known as [[suffragettes]] - for the vote for landed, middle-class women in Britain during the early part of the 20th century. This was at a time when neither men nor women could vote unless they owned property.<br />
<br />
Roots of the movement in the United States and the United Kingdom include the [[Women's Suffrage]] movement of the early 1900's and the [[Women's Liberation]] (or "Second Wave Feminist") movement of the 1960's and 1970's.<br />
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The [[Equal Rights Amendment]], which proponents claimed would address the inadequacies of the [[Fourteenth Amendment]] concerning women and citizenship, was proposed in the US in 1923. The amendment passed Congress in 1972 but was ultimately defeated, falling just three states short of the required two-thirds majority on June 30, 1982. The majority of Americans felt that its passage would entail several consequences, including making girls subject to the military draft, the integration of single-sex schools, the possible recognition of homosexual marriage, and the revocation of laws that protect women in dangerous jobs, such as factory or mining work.<br />
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The feminist movement in the West evolved in the 1980s with the rise of so-called [[Post-Feminism]] (also called "[[Third-Wave]]" feminism), which stresses that women have many rights that go unrecognized, often by women themselves, in everyday life, and in the American legal structure. Most members of the feminist movement support reproductive rights currently guaranteed by American law, including the legal right to [[abortion]]. This stance is opposed by many conservatives, leading political commentator [[Rush Limbaugh]] to coin the term "Femi-nazis" to refer to extreme feminist activists. <br />
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During the administration of [[Bill Clinton]], feminism made a partial resurgence, but feminist leadership largely failed to criticize{{fact}} President Clinton's [[sexist]] behavior toward female employees as both Arkansas Governor{{fact}} and U.S. President{{fact}}.<br />
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==Quotations== <br />
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The English novelist and critic [[Rebecca West]] said <ref>http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/rebecca_west.html</ref> : <br />
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<blockquote> "I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute." </blockquote><br />
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The televangelist [[Pat Robertson]] said <ref> Fundraising letter, 1992 quoted on http://www.gainesvillehumanists.org/patr.htm </ref>: <br />
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<blockquote>"The [[Feminism|feminist agenda]] is not about equal rights for women. It is about a [[socialist]], anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, [[abortion|kill their children]], practice [[witchcraft]], destroy capitalism, and become [[Homosexuality|lesbian]]s." <ref>Pat Robertson, fund-raising letter, 1992</ref></blockquote><br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Gender equality]]<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External Links==<br />
*[http://www.feministezine.com/feminist/ The Feminist eZine] Archive of articles about Feminist History.<br />
*[http://www.cia-on-campus.org/surveil/steinem.html Gloria Steinem and the CIA], ''The New York Times'', February 21, 1967.<br />
*[http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg02217.html Inside the CIA with Gloria Steinem], Nancy Borman, ''The Village Voice''.</div>Celtishhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Masculism&diff=293131Masculism2007-09-14T18:06:59Z<p>Celtish: New page: Masculism, sometimes known as masculinism, is a reaction to what is seen as extremist feminism. Masculism is part of the Men's Movement, seeking to redress the balance between ...</p>
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<div>[[Masculism]], sometimes known as masculinism, is a reaction to what is seen as extremist [[feminism]]. Masculism is part of the [[Men's Movement]], seeking to redress the balance between the genders and establish genuine equality between the sexes.</div>Celtish