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Druidry

2007-05-15T22:36:19Z

CobdoScribe: /* Recent controversy */

'''Druidry''', or '''Druidism''', is the religion of the Druids, a [[pagan]] [[Celtic]] priesthood that existed in [[France]], [[Britain]] and [[Ireland]] before the coming of [[Christianity]] to those lands. Its international headquarters was on the island of Mona, now called Anglesey, off the north-west coast of [[Wales]], but was destroyed by the [[Romans]] in 61 AD during the revolt of [[Boudica]].

Druid beliefs, as recorded by [[Julius Caesar]], revolved around observations of the motions of the heavenly bodies and their influences on the earth, as in [[astrology]], and they were also firm believers in [[reincarnation]], so much that it was possible to defer the payment of debts until the next life. They also sacrificed criminals and enemy soldiers captured in battle in huge wicker men by burning them to death.

Druidic training was very hard, and involved spendind 20 years learning by heart thousands of lines of poetry and song, which included being placed under a rock in a river in order to recite them. If the postulant survived this ordeal he or she became a 'bard', the lowest grade of Druid. The next grade was 'ovate' (meaning seer), and then came Druid proper. A female Druid is known as a Dryad.

The Romans attempted to suppress Druidism but it survived into Christian times when a certain amount of assimilation took place. One of the Druidic gods was named Esus and the Druids believed that this was the same person as Jesus. Many Christian churches in the British Isles were built on the site of Druidic temples, especially those dedicated to the dragon-slaying saints Michael and George. It is also believed that the wizard [[Merlin]], companion to [[King Arthur]], was a Druid.

Druidism survived in remote areas of Wales until the 18th century, when it was revived in a new popular form by [[John Toland]] and others, who founded the first of the modern Druid orders in 1717. Modern Druids have dispensed with many of their ancient beliefs and practices and in many ways resemble [[Freemasonry]]. They congregate at [[Stonehenge]] on the [[summer solstice]] to enact their ceremonies.

==Recent controversy==

In 2006 the Council of British Druid Orders, the governing body of Druids in the British Isles and elsewhere, suffered an acrimonious split. The issue concerned the controversy surrounding the reburial of pre-Christian archeological remains of human bodies that are now on display in museums. One faction wished to lobby the government to allow Pagan reburial with Druidic rites, while the other faction wished to take a more conciliatory approach. Other factors such as clash of personalities were also involved. There are now two bodies calling themselves the Council of British Druid Orders, each denouncing the other as splitters, and a legal battle through the courts for the right to use the name is pending. Links to the official websites of both these bodies are provided below.

To clarify and correct the above, the split in the Council in September 2006 was not caused by the Reburial issue, but by a complaint that the Chair had abused their position, breaking the non-interference policy by interfering in the internal workings of other Member Orders and defaming other members online. This complaint was upheld and the former Chair and the Head of an Associate (non voting) Order refused to accept this decision and formed their own 'Council' which has some support in the West of the country. Its only full member Order is the Secular Order, and twelve longstanding full member Orders oppose its claim to be CoBDO and speak for and on its behalf.

The Reburial issue exacerbated the problem, with the recently appointed Reburial Officer taking part in a 'protest' in Avebury over reburial of museum remains in January 2007, claiming to speak on the Council's and the wider Pagan community's behalf when he was only speaking from his own individual viewpoint. He also issued guidelines in CoBDO's name to English Heritage, which has (still) not been seen by any other members of the Council and therefore was not authorised by CoBDO. He has since been dismissed from the post and the position revoked.

Those claiming to be the Council (.org) have attempted to take over the official website (.org.uk) fraudulently, by claiming to act on behalf of the person who set up and registered this website. The registration details were quickly returned to their rightful owner and the website reinstated.

A campaign of threats and defamation has ensued, with people pressurised to disassociate themselves from the original CoBDO. This is not 'spirituality' by anyone's measure and nor is it Druidry. Check out the links for yourself and make your own mind up.

Due to the nature of the online battle that has been raging, I fully expect this post to be altered by the other faction at some point. I have made a point of adding to an existing contribution and hope that others may have the courtesy to do the same, to enable people to make their own minds up.

Elected Scribe, Council of British Druid Orders

==Links==

*[http://www.cobdo.org Council of British Druid Orders]
*[http://www.cobdo.org.uk Council of British Druid Orders]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Religion]]
[[Category:Wales]]

Druidry

2007-05-15T22:27:31Z

CobdoScribe: /* Recent controversy */

'''Druidry''', or '''Druidism''', is the religion of the Druids, a [[pagan]] [[Celtic]] priesthood that existed in [[France]], [[Britain]] and [[Ireland]] before the coming of [[Christianity]] to those lands. Its international headquarters was on the island of Mona, now called Anglesey, off the north-west coast of [[Wales]], but was destroyed by the [[Romans]] in 61 AD during the revolt of [[Boudica]].

Druid beliefs, as recorded by [[Julius Caesar]], revolved around observations of the motions of the heavenly bodies and their influences on the earth, as in [[astrology]], and they were also firm believers in [[reincarnation]], so much that it was possible to defer the payment of debts until the next life. They also sacrificed criminals and enemy soldiers captured in battle in huge wicker men by burning them to death.

Druidic training was very hard, and involved spendind 20 years learning by heart thousands of lines of poetry and song, which included being placed under a rock in a river in order to recite them. If the postulant survived this ordeal he or she became a 'bard', the lowest grade of Druid. The next grade was 'ovate' (meaning seer), and then came Druid proper. A female Druid is known as a Dryad.

The Romans attempted to suppress Druidism but it survived into Christian times when a certain amount of assimilation took place. One of the Druidic gods was named Esus and the Druids believed that this was the same person as Jesus. Many Christian churches in the British Isles were built on the site of Druidic temples, especially those dedicated to the dragon-slaying saints Michael and George. It is also believed that the wizard [[Merlin]], companion to [[King Arthur]], was a Druid.

Druidism survived in remote areas of Wales until the 18th century, when it was revived in a new popular form by [[John Toland]] and others, who founded the first of the modern Druid orders in 1717. Modern Druids have dispensed with many of their ancient beliefs and practices and in many ways resemble [[Freemasonry]]. They congregate at [[Stonehenge]] on the [[summer solstice]] to enact their ceremonies.

==Recent controversy==

In 2006 the Council of British Druid Orders, the governing body of Druids in the British Isles and elsewhere, suffered an acrimonious split. The issue concerned the controversy surrounding the reburial of pre-Christian archeological remains of human bodies that are now on display in museums. One faction wished to lobby the government to allow Pagan reburial with Druidic rites, while the other faction wished to take a more conciliatory approach. Other factors such as clash of personalities were also involved. There are now two bodies calling themselves the Council of British Druid Orders, each denouncing the other as splitters, and a legal battle through the courts for the right to use the name is pending. Links to the official websites of both these bodies are provided below.

To clarify and correct the above, the split in the Council in September 2006 was not caused by the Reburial issue, but by a complaint that the Chair had abused their position, breaking the non-interference policy by interfering in the internal workings of other Member Orders and defaming other members online. This complaint was upheld and the former Chair and the Head of an Associate (non voting) Order refused to accept this decision and formed their own 'Council' which has some support in the West of the country. Its only full member Order is the Secular Order, and twelve longstanding full member Orders oppose its claim to be CoBDO and speak for and on its behalf.

Those claiming to be the Council (.org) have attempted to take over the official website (.org.uk) fraudulently, by claiming to act on behalf of the person who set up and registered this website. The registration details were quickly returned to their rightful owner and the website reinstated.

A campaign of threats and defamation has ensued, with people pressurised to disassociate themselves from the original CoBDO. This is not 'spirituality' by anyone's measure and nor is it Druidry. Check out the links for yourself and make your own mind up.

Due to the nature of the online battle that has been raging, I fully expect this post to be altered by the other faction at some point. I have made a point of adding to an existing contribution and hope that others may have the courtesy to do the same, to enable people to make their own minds up.

Elected Scribe, Council of British Druid Orders

==Links==

*[http://www.cobdo.org Council of British Druid Orders]
*[http://www.cobdo.org.uk Council of British Druid Orders]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Religion]]
[[Category:Wales]]

Druidry

2007-05-15T22:27:09Z

CobdoScribe: /* Recent controversy */

'''Druidry''', or '''Druidism''', is the religion of the Druids, a [[pagan]] [[Celtic]] priesthood that existed in [[France]], [[Britain]] and [[Ireland]] before the coming of [[Christianity]] to those lands. Its international headquarters was on the island of Mona, now called Anglesey, off the north-west coast of [[Wales]], but was destroyed by the [[Romans]] in 61 AD during the revolt of [[Boudica]].

Druid beliefs, as recorded by [[Julius Caesar]], revolved around observations of the motions of the heavenly bodies and their influences on the earth, as in [[astrology]], and they were also firm believers in [[reincarnation]], so much that it was possible to defer the payment of debts until the next life. They also sacrificed criminals and enemy soldiers captured in battle in huge wicker men by burning them to death.

Druidic training was very hard, and involved spendind 20 years learning by heart thousands of lines of poetry and song, which included being placed under a rock in a river in order to recite them. If the postulant survived this ordeal he or she became a 'bard', the lowest grade of Druid. The next grade was 'ovate' (meaning seer), and then came Druid proper. A female Druid is known as a Dryad.

The Romans attempted to suppress Druidism but it survived into Christian times when a certain amount of assimilation took place. One of the Druidic gods was named Esus and the Druids believed that this was the same person as Jesus. Many Christian churches in the British Isles were built on the site of Druidic temples, especially those dedicated to the dragon-slaying saints Michael and George. It is also believed that the wizard [[Merlin]], companion to [[King Arthur]], was a Druid.

Druidism survived in remote areas of Wales until the 18th century, when it was revived in a new popular form by [[John Toland]] and others, who founded the first of the modern Druid orders in 1717. Modern Druids have dispensed with many of their ancient beliefs and practices and in many ways resemble [[Freemasonry]]. They congregate at [[Stonehenge]] on the [[summer solstice]] to enact their ceremonies.

==Recent controversy==

In 2006 the Council of British Druid Orders, the governing body of Druids in the British Isles and elsewhere, suffered an acrimonious split. The issue concerned the controversy surrounding the reburial of pre-Christian archeological remains of human bodies that are now on display in museums. One faction wished to lobby the government to allow Pagan reburial with Druidic rites, while the other faction wished to take a more conciliatory approach. Other factors such as clash of personalities were also involved. There are now two bodies calling themselves the Council of British Druid Orders, each denouncing the other as splitters, and a legal battle through the courts for the right to use the name is pending. Links to the official websites of both these bodies are provided below.

To clarify and correct the above, the split in the Council in September 2006 was not caused by the Reburial issue, but by a complaint that the Chair had abused their position, breaking the non-interference policy by interfering in the internal workings of other Member Orders and defaming other members online. This complaint was upheld and the former Chair and the Head of an Associate (non voting) Order refused to accept this decision and formed their own 'Council' which has some support in the West of the country. Its only full member Order is the Secular Order, and twelve longstanding full member Orders oppose its claim to be CoBDO and speak for and on its behalf.

Those claiming to be the Council (.org) have attempted to take over the official website (.org.uk) fraudulently, by claiming to act on behalf of the person who set up and registered this website. The registration details were quickly returned to their rightful owner and the website reinstated.

A campaign of threats and defamation has ensued, with people pressurised to disassociate themselves from the original CoBDO. This is not 'spirituality' by anyone's measure and nor is it Druidry. Check out the links for yourself and make your own mind up.

Due to the nature of the online battle that has been raging, I fully expect this post to be altered by the other faction at some point. I have made a point of adding to an existing contribution and hope that others may have the courtesy to do the same, to enable people to make their own minds up.

Elected Scribe, Council of British Druid Orders

==Links==

*[http://www.cobdo.org Council of British Druid Orders]
*[http://www.cobdo.org.uk Council of British Druid Orders]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Religion]]
[[Category:Wales]]