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Real-Time Strategy

2009-09-03T18:47:46Z

DaveB7: Replaced erroneous example with an another; Advance Wars is a turn-based strategy game; the article explains the distinction.

'''Real-Time Strategy''' is a genre of [[video game]]s in which a player controls an army and moves it in real time (hence the name), as opposed to [[turn-based strategy]] games, such as chess, that involve turns.

==Examples==
*[[Age of Empires (series)|Age of Empires]]
*[[Starcraft]]

[[Category:Video Games]]

Wolverine

2009-09-03T18:37:26Z

DaveB7: formatting

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A '''wolverine''' (''Gulo gulo'') is a carnivorous animal that resembles a bear, but is substantially smaller and more squat, and is classified as more similar to [[weasel]]s than to bears. They can grow up to .87 meters and weigh up to 45 lbs. <ref>http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/wolverine.htm</ref>

==Wolverines in culture==
*The [[University of Michigan]] uses the wolverine as its mascot.
*Marvel Comics hero Wolverine takes his name from this animal.

[[Category:Mustelidae]]
[[Category:Carnivores]]

Wolverine

2009-09-03T18:37:04Z

DaveB7: General expansion

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A '''wolverine''' (''Gulo gulo'') is a carnivorous animal that resembles a bear, but is substantially smaller and more squat, and is classified as more similar to [[weasel]]s than to bears. They can grow up to .87 meters and weigh up to 45 lbs. <ref>http://www.blueplanetbiomes.org/wolverine.htm</ref>

==Wolverines in culture==
The [[University of Michigan]] uses the wolverine as its mascot.
Marvel Comics hero Wolverine takes his name from this animal.

[[Category:Mustelidae]]
[[Category:Carnivores]]

Spider

2009-09-03T18:25:03Z

DaveB7: Spiders aren't insects.

'''Spiders''' are a group of [[arachnid]]s characterized by possessing eight legs and usually 6-8 eyes (depending on species), a fused [[head]] and thorax and a large abdomen. Both [[land]] and [[sea]] varieties are known, with many of the [[sea]] spiders being known for their spindly legs and often strange appearances. Spiders feed on small prey such as [[insect]]s, although some exotic varieties are blood-drinkers. <ref>[http://spiders.ucr.edu/dermatol.html Entomology of Spiders; University of California, Riverside.]</ref> While spiders resemble insects in many ways, they are not true insects, but [[arachnid]]s.

Some people have an [[phobia|irrational fear]] of spiders. This is called [[Arachnophobia]].

== References ==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Invertebrates]]

Cricket (insect)

2009-09-03T18:22:28Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

'''Crickets''' are insects classified as similar to [[grasshopper]]s. Male crickets are known for making a "chirping" sound by rubbing their wings together at a fast rate.

[[Category:Insects]]

Ant

2009-09-03T18:20:22Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

'''Ants''' are social [[insects]] that live in highly organized colonies that include workers, drones, and [[queen]]s. Considered a highly successful insect, ants have colonized all parts of the world except for [[Greenland]], [[Antarctica]] and [[Iceland]]. Ants are classified part of the ''Hymenoptera'' family of species with [[bee]]s and [[wasp]]s and this similarity is evident in their similar social structure. There are over 12,000 known species of ants in the world [http://atbi.biosci.ohio-state.edu:210/hymenoptera/tsa.sppcount?the_taxon=Formicidae].

== Colony Organization ==

Highly organized, ant colonies are coordinated by the release of [[pheromones]] - chemical signals passed between individuals that allow information to be passed around the colony. Pheremones can be used for such diverse purposes as: marking trails, identifying which task group an ant belongs to, triggering alarms, and even spreading confusion among invading colonies.

Most ant colonies have male and female ants in highly specialised roles, such as queen, worker, etc. Some species of ant do not have any males at all, and reproduce asexually<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7998931.stm BBC News: Ants]</ref>.

== Relationship with People ==

While commonly seen as pests, ants actually have many benefits for human agriculture including pest control, and aerating soil, and even collecting seeds for farmers. They also regarded as food by many cultures - ant larvae known as ''escamoles'' in parts of Mexico are regarded as a kind of [[caviar]], and can sell for as much as $80 per kilo [http://cornellcollege.edu/biology/insects2005/9richardisaac/e%20is%20for%20escamoles.htm]. Remarkably, in some parts of the world Army Ants are even used as rudimentary sutures, their powerful jaws clamping wounds together to assist healing [http://www.ewma.org/pdf/fall04/Historical_Aspects.pdf].

== Intelligent Design ==

Creation scientists see the complex social behavior of ants to be evidence for an [[intelligent design]]er. <ref>[http://www.christiananswers.net/kids/insects.html Incredible insects of the rain forest]</ref>

== Ants in Fiction and the Bible ==

Ants have often been cited in [[pagan]] [[parable]]s as well as [[secular]] stories for their hard work. For example, in Aesop's fable about the ant and the grasshopper. They are also mentioned in the Bible:
<blockquote>
''Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest.'' [[Proverbs]] 6:6-8 (KJV)
</blockquote>
Observe that the Bible gets the gender of worker ants correctly whereas Aesop's ant character was originally personified using the incorrect masculine pronouns.

[[Category: Insects]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==External Links==
*[http://www.ento.csiro.au/education/insects/hymenoptera.html Hymenoptera: ants, bees and wasps]

Woolly mammoth

2009-09-03T18:18:57Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

'''Woolly mammoths''' were large terrestrial, and hairy mammals that lived during the [[Pleistocene]] epoch between 2 million and 10,000 years ago according to [[Theory of Evolution|evolutionists]]. Evolutionists claim that they went extinct at the end of the last [[ice age]] while [[creation|Creationists]] say that they likely died in [[Noah's Flood]]. Climate change is usually blamed for their extinction but humans may have played a part. They are classified as related to the modern [[elephant]] and preserved mammoth corpses have been found in Siberia. Scientists believe that it may be possible one day to clone the mammoth.

[[Category:Mammals]]

Skunk

2009-09-03T18:17:46Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

The '''skunk''' is an [[omnivorous]] [[mammal]] that lives in [[North America]] and [[South America]]. Some varieties of skunks also live in [[the Phillipines]] and in [[Indonesia]]. All skunks belong to the family ''Mephitidae''. Skunks are small, usually only 15 inches long and 1 pound, and are black with a white stripe or stripes along their back. Skunks are striped from birth, unlike most animals which only get their defined markings later in life.
[[Image:Skunk.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Striped Skunk]]‎

Skunks are most commonly known for their ability to spray a rotten smelling fluid up to 10 feet, as a defense to ward off attackers. Skunks usually do not spray until after hissing and stamping their feet.

Skunks are sometimes called polecats, because they resemble [[Europe]]an [[polecat]]s, although they are not classified as related.

[[Category:Mammals]]

Pangolin

2009-09-03T18:16:38Z

DaveB7: Added info

'''Pangolins''' are a [[mammal]] species found in [[Africa]] and [[Asia]] which lack [[teeth]]. They are roughly the size of a dog, and possess unusual scaled skin. They are among the few animal species that moves by rolling, though they normally walk. The feed on fruit and insects. [[Category:Mammals]]

African Elephant

2009-09-03T18:12:45Z

DaveB7: Added info

The '''African Elephant''' is a large terrestrial mammal native to the African savanna. It is normally gray in color, and possesses a long, prehensile nose, called a trunk, and large ears. As it is rather intelligent, it can be domesticated for labor or entertainment. In comparison to the [[Indian Elephant]] can attain a greater size, and is hunted for the sake of its [[tusks]], which may weigh as much as 70 pounds<ref>{{Nuttall|Elephant}}</ref>

[[Image:AfricanElephant.jpg|right|thumb]]
==Notes==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Mammals]]

Ocelot

2009-09-03T18:09:06Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

[[Image:Ocelot.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Ocelot]]
The '''ocelot''' is a wild [[feline]] resembling and classified as similar to the [[leopard]] and [[jaguar]], though it is substantially smaller.

[[Salvador Dali]] kept ocelots as pets.

{{Nb_zl_felines}}

Leopard

2009-09-03T18:04:29Z

DaveB7: number agreement

[[Image:Leopard.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Leopard]]
The '''leopard''' is a large spotted [[feline]], widely distributed throughout [[Africa]] and [[Asia]].
It is sometimes referred to as the panther, especially rare [[melanism|melanistic]] black leopards (which are also spotted, but black-on-black so that the spots are not readily apparent).

The three lions on the royal arms of [[England]] and [[Britain]] (and on the badge of the England football team) are known in heraldic terms as 'leopards'. The heraldic 'leopard' is a 'lion passant gardant'; a lion walking to the viewer's left and looking at the viewer.<ref>[http://www.burkes-peerage.net/articles/heraldry_l.aspx Burke's Peerage]</ref><ref>[http://www.heraldryclipart.com/dl.html Armorial Gold Heraldic Dictionary]</ref><ref>[http://www.royal.gov.uk/files/images/MTnew_ceremsym_symbols_armsi.jpg Arms of Britain]</ref>

== Habits ==

Leopards are solitary predators. They habitually climb trees, commonly storing their prey in a forked branch.

Leopards are prone to attacking and eating domestic [[dog]]s.

== Man-eating leopards ==

Although man-eating leopards are much rarer than man-eating [[tiger]]s, the Panar leopard claimed over 400 victims and the Man-Eating Leopard of Rudraprayag managed to eat at least 125 [[India]]n [[pilgrimage|pilgrims]] before it was shot by [[Jim Corbett]].

== Biblical references ==

Leopards historically occurred naturally in [[Palestine]] (where they are now either extinct or extremely rare) and are mentioned several times in the [[Bible]], including,

<blockquote>
''Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.'' Jeremiah 13:23
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
''And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.'' Revelations 13:2
</blockquote>

==See Also==
*[[The Leopard]] -- A Historical novel by [[Guiseppe di Lampedusa]].

== References ==
<references/>

{{Nb_zl_felines}}

[[Category:Felines]]
[[Category:Biblical Animals]]
[[Category:Dangerous Animals]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Asia]]
[[Category:Africa]]

Ferret

2009-09-03T18:02:23Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

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'''Ferrets''' are a domesticated [[carnivorous]] mammal, classified as similar to the wild [[stoat]], [[weasel]] and [[polecat]].

For centuries ferrets have been in [[Europe]] used for hunting small creatures such as [[rabbits]] which are a pest to [[farmers]]. Today they are still commonly used in hunting, but also commonly kept as [[pets]] due to their furry appeal and playfully inquisitive nature. Like weasels and their other wild counterparts, ferrets exude a strong [[musk]] or odor.

[[Category:Carnivores]]
[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Domestic Animals]]
[[Category:Mammals]]

Badger

2009-09-03T17:59:06Z

DaveB7: Moved some fiction info out intro, added culture bits.

[[Image:Badger.jpg|right|thumb|300px|American badger.]]

'''Badgers''' are several species of medium sized [[mustelid]] [[carnivore]]s, the Eurasian badger (''Meles meles''), the North American badger, both grey with striped black and white heads, and the Honey badger or [[Ratel]] of Africa.

Badgers are carnivorous upon various small animals such as [[rodent]]s, [[mole (animal)|mole]]s and [[hedgehog]]s. They live in elaborate underground burrow complexes called setts.

In the [[United Kingdom]] badgers are commonly blamed by farmers for spreading bovine [[tuberculosis]], although the disease is generally spread by uncontrolled livestock movements.

Badger hairs were sought after for making shaving-brushes, a practise that has ceased in many parts of the world due to the dwindling badger population. Badger hair shaving brushes now have something of an [[heirloom]] quality about them as commercially farming and shaving badgers has failed because they are not social animals and tend to aggression when in captivity.

== Badgers in the Bible ==

(According to the [[King James Version]]) the [[tabernacle]] in which [[Ark of the Covenant]] was kept included badger skins in its construction:

<blockquote>
''And he made a covering for the tent of rams' skins dyed red, and a covering of badgers' skins above that.'' Exodus 36:19, (KJV)
</blockquote>

(Some versions of the Bible (e.g. the NIV) state here that the hides of [[sirenian]]s were used however.)

==Badgers in culture==
*Badger is one of the main characters in [[The Wind in the Willows]].
*The dire badger is a fictional variety, larger, more savage, and sometimes more intelligent, occasionally encountered in [[role-playing game]]s.
*The badger is the state animal of [[Wisconsin]] and the mascot of the [[University of Wisconsin]].

[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Carnivores]]
[[Category:Biblical Animals]]

Stingray

2009-09-03T17:53:59Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed, appearance detail added, reordered sentence

A '''stingray''' is a cartilaginous [[fish]] classified as similar to [[shark]]s. They possess broad, flat bodies and a sharp, poisonous tail spine. They are usually docile, but can retaliate with their tail spine when they are stepped on or otherwise provoked.

==See also==
* [[Steve Irwin]] - Killed by a stingray

[[Category:Fish]]

Wasp

2009-09-03T17:48:07Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

''WASP is a disparaging acronym for "White Anglo-Saxon Protestant" see [[WASP (term)]]''

'''Wasps''' are flying insects classified as similar to [[bee]]s and [[ant]]s, of the order Hymenoptera. There are several [[species]] of wasps, found in many parts of the world.

==Appearance==

Wasps can come in a variety of different shapes and sizes. Most wasps are similar to bees. A wasp is typically half the length of an adult male human's thumb and its body is often yellow with black stripes, but may also be black with white stripes, or solid brown or solid black in color. Wasps are often mistaken for bees, but there are ways to distinguish the two from one another.

*Wasps are generally more slender, with a "wasp-waist".
*Segments of a wasp are more prominent to that of a bee.
*Bees appear to have hair while wasps don't.

One species of wasp which builds its nest in the ground and is known for particularly aggressive behavior is known as a "yellow jacket". Two different varieties are often called "hornets": one of them is the European hornet which is large (up to 1 1/2 inches), relatively gentle although they do sting, and black and yellow in color. Another is the North American hornet which is black and white in color, notoriously aggressive in behavior, and builds large football-shaped nests in trees. All of these are actually different species of wasps.

==Behavior==

Wasps are generally more aggressive than bees because they are hunters/scavengers rather than specialist nectar-feeders. They have catholic tastes, and constantly search for high-protein edibles among human garbage while bees just look for [[flowers]], which they [[pollinate]] while collecting their nectar food. Wasps are also more likely to sting a [[human]] unprovoked and unlike a bee, a wasp is capable of stinging a human multiple times.

[[Category:Insects]]

Leech

2009-09-03T17:47:26Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

'''Leeches''' are annelids or segmented [[worms]], which are classified as similar to earthworms. Although they are genetically similar, their behavior and anatomy are more specialized. They feed by clinging onto a host body and sucking their [[blood]]. Leeches mainly reside in fresh water [[lakes]] or swamps and their presence is usually undesired. Some species are also capable of living on land or in the ocean. Leeches have been used extensively in medicine for over 2000 years, and are still used to treat diseases such as [[gangrene]] even today.<ref>http://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/article.html?article_id=49262</ref>

Because they are well-known as blood-sucking parasites, the term "leech" is often used colloquially to refer to someone who sponges off of others or off of the system.

'''Leech''' is also an archaic term for a [[doctor]].

==References==
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[[Category:Invertebrates]]
[[Category:Medicine]]

Broccoli

2009-09-03T17:46:06Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

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'''Broccoli''' is a member of the [[cabbage]] family, similar to [[cauliflower]] and classified as closely related to it. Because of its different components, broccoli provides a range of tastes and textures, from soft and flowery (the floret) to fibrous and crunchy (the stem and stalk).

[[Category:Vegetables]]

Bee

2009-09-03T17:44:26Z

DaveB7: Evolutionist bias removed

'''Bees''' are a type of flying [[insect]] classified as similar to [[ant]]s and [[wasp]]s, all of the order Hymenoptera. They are an important pollinator of [[flower]]ing [[plant]]s, and vital to commercial growers in the [[United States]]. Many species of bees produce [[honey]].

==Bee genetics==

Unfertilized eggs laid by a queen bee contain 50% of her [[gene]]s in different combinations. These eggs develop into male bees (drones) that have one copy of each [[chromosome]]. All [[sperm]] produced by a drone are identical [[clone]]s.

Fertilized eggs laid by a queen bee develop into female bees (workers). These have two copies of each chromosome – one from the queen and one from the male who fertilized her.

Queens mate with 10-20 drones, so bee colonies are a mixture of subfamilies with the same mother but different fathers.

This means that workers in the same subfamily are related by 75% of their genes. They are therefore more closely related to their sisters than to their own offspring, who would only have 50% of their genes. This predisposes them to help raise their sisters or go with a new queen when she starts a new colony rather than seeking a mate.

==Bee Decline==

[[Albert Einstein]] wrote, "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left." <ref>[http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=38449 Einstein warned of bee deaths] Free Market News, April 11, 2007</ref> Because of their vital role as pollinators, bees are responsible for 15 to 30 percent of the food U.S. consumers eat. However, in recent years there has been a steep decline in the population of bees, and some scientists claim that unless this is arrested the supply of some fruits and vegetables may also decline. <ref> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1005_041005_honeybees.html </ref>

This decline is considered to be the result of diseases such as the varroa mite and other parasites, and the widespread practice of spraying crops with pesticides. Some [[liberal]] [[activist]]s have asserted that the increased use of genetically modified crops may have a role to play, but the evidence for that is not there. Another theory, cellular phone signals may be interfering with bee populations. <ref>[http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/04/cell_phones_bees.html Cell Phones Linked to Bee Decline] Consumer Reports, April 16, 2007 </ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Insects]]

Death knell

2009-09-03T17:39:29Z

DaveB7: formatting

A '''death knell''' is a [[bell]] rung to announce a [[death]]. So figuratively it is a [[harbinger]] or [[omen]] of the end of something.

[[Category:Dictionary]]

Percussion

2009-09-03T17:38:04Z

DaveB7:

[[Image:Percussion_Instruments1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|A varied array of percussion instruments, including [[bell]]s, [[cymbal]]s of different sizes, various kinds of [[drum]], a [[triangle (instrument)|triangle]], and even improvised items such as a pail. (Pic: Ottmar Liebert)]]

'''Percussion''' is one of the main categories of [[musical instrument]], which includes all instruments that produce a sound when struck or shaken. This encompasses a wide variety of [[drum]]s, as well as [[xylophone]]s, [[glockenspiel]]s and, technically, keyboard instruments such as the [[piano]], since the sound is produced by a [[hammer]] striking a [[string]].

== Classification ==

The instruments of the percussion family may be placed into one of four categories:<ref>Blatter, A. 1997. pg. 201. ''Instrumentation and Orchestration'', 2nd edition. Schirmer Thomson Learning. California, USA</ref>

# Wooden instruments (called woods)
# Metal instruments (called metals)
# Skin-covered instruments (called skins)
# Other sound sources

=== List of percussion instruments ===

==== Wooden ====

* marimba
* [[xylophone]]
* xylorimba ''or'' xylomarimba

==== Metals ====

* orchestral bells
* [[vibraphone]]
* tubular chimes
* [[celesta]]
* button gong
* [[gong]]
* crotales
* steel drum
* [[bell|handbells]]
* almglocken
* anvil
* musical saw
* flexatone
* tubaphone

==== Skin-Covered ====

* [[timpani]]
* roto-tom

==== Other Sound Sources ====

* slide whistle
* musical glasses

== Basic Percussion Strokes ==

The fundamental sound-producing gesture in percussion music is the single stroke. This consists simply of striking a sound-producing object once with something capable of setting the object into vibration <ref>Blatter, A. 1997. pg. 191. ''Instrumentation and Orchestration'', 2nd edition. Schirmer Thomson Learning. California, USA</ref>. Below is an outline of the various strokes used in percussion music.

* single stroke
* flam
** can be described as a fast combination of two single strokes, one played by each hand
* drag
** a fast combination of three strokes, usually played either left-left-right ''or'' right-right-left
* ruff
* open roll
* closed roll ''or'' buzz roll ''or'' crush roll

Percussion instruments are used in most forms of music, providing a [[rhythm]] for the other instruments to keep to, as well as dramatic sounds that can punctuate important passages of the music. In the modern [[orchestra]], the percussion section often includes [[timpani]] and a range of smaller instruments such as triangles, [[bell]]s and [[woodblock]]s.

Percussion is particularly important in types of music, such as most [[Latin America]]n and [[Africa]]n styles, that place a strong emphasis on rhythm; these genres often use an array of traditional percussive instruments such as [[bongos]] and [[guiro]]s. In recent years, some genres of [[popular music]] have abandoned 'real' percussion altogether in favor of [[drum machine]]s, but the sounds these produce still have their roots in traditional drums and [[cymbal]]s for the most part.

Percussion instruments are one of the oldest types of music-making device. Cymbals are often mentioned in the [[Bible]], eg in Psalm 150:5.

== References ==

<references/>

[[Category:Musical Instruments]]

Percussion

2009-09-03T17:37:39Z

DaveB7:

[[Image:Percussion_Instruments1.jpg|thumb|right|350px|A varied array of percussion instruments, including [[bell]]s, [[cymbal]]s of different sizes, various kinds of [[drum]], a [[triangle (instrument)|triangle]], and even improvised items such as a pail. (Pic: Ottmar Liebert)]]

'''Percussion''' is one of the main categories of [[musical instrument]], which includes all instruments that produce a sound when struck or shaken. This encompasses a wide variety of [[drum]]s, as well as [[xylophone]]s, [[glockenspiel]]s and, technically, keyboard instruments such as the [[piano]], since the sound is produced by a [[hammer]] striking a [[string]].

== Classification ==

The instruments of the percussion family may be placed into one of four categories:<ref>Blatter, A. 1997. pg. 201. ''Instrumentation and Orchestration'', 2nd edition. Schirmer Thomson Learning. California, USA</ref>

# Wooden instruments (called woods)
# Metal instruments (called metals)
# Skin-covered instruments (called skins)
# Other sound sources

=== List of percussion instruments ===

==== Wooden ====

* marimba
* [[xylophone]]
* xylorimba ''or'' xylomarimba

==== Metals ====

* orchestral bells
* [[vibraphone]]
* tubular chimes
* [[celesta]]
* button gong
* [[gong]]
* crotales
* steel drum
* [[bells|handbells]]
* almglocken
* anvil
* musical saw
* flexatone
* tubaphone

==== Skin-Covered ====

* [[timpani]]
* roto-tom

==== Other Sound Sources ====

* slide whistle
* musical glasses

== Basic Percussion Strokes ==

The fundamental sound-producing gesture in percussion music is the single stroke. This consists simply of striking a sound-producing object once with something capable of setting the object into vibration <ref>Blatter, A. 1997. pg. 191. ''Instrumentation and Orchestration'', 2nd edition. Schirmer Thomson Learning. California, USA</ref>. Below is an outline of the various strokes used in percussion music.

* single stroke
* flam
** can be described as a fast combination of two single strokes, one played by each hand
* drag
** a fast combination of three strokes, usually played either left-left-right ''or'' right-right-left
* ruff
* open roll
* closed roll ''or'' buzz roll ''or'' crush roll

Percussion instruments are used in most forms of music, providing a [[rhythm]] for the other instruments to keep to, as well as dramatic sounds that can punctuate important passages of the music. In the modern [[orchestra]], the percussion section often includes [[timpani]] and a range of smaller instruments such as triangles, [[bell]]s and [[woodblock]]s.

Percussion is particularly important in types of music, such as most [[Latin America]]n and [[Africa]]n styles, that place a strong emphasis on rhythm; these genres often use an array of traditional percussive instruments such as [[bongos]] and [[guiro]]s. In recent years, some genres of [[popular music]] have abandoned 'real' percussion altogether in favor of [[drum machine]]s, but the sounds these produce still have their roots in traditional drums and [[cymbal]]s for the most part.

Percussion instruments are one of the oldest types of music-making device. Cymbals are often mentioned in the [[Bible]], eg in Psalm 150:5.

== References ==

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Bell

2009-09-03T17:37:15Z

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A '''bell''' is a [[percussion]] instrument consisting of a metal casing with some way of striking the casing to produce a tone. Some bells, particularly large ones, have a clapper suspended inside. When the bell is rocked back and forth, the clapper strikes the inside of the bell, producing a tone. Other bells are struck with mallets to produce a tone, and some very small bells take the form of small [[spheres]] with a small ball inside. These bells are shaken to produce a tone.

==Culture==
Bells play an important role in culture, historically and in the present day. The [[Liberty Bell]] is famous symbol of American freedom. Bells are associated with [[church]]es, especially churches of classical design, which often incorporate bell towers. Chains of small bells, called jingle bells, are associated with cultural celebrations of [[Christmas]].

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Liberty Bell

2009-09-03T17:33:20Z

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The '''Liberty Bell''' was designed as the [[bell]] for the [[Pennsylvania]] State House in 1751. It was rung for many events, including the coronation of [[King George III]] in 1760.<ref>[http://www.nps.gov/history/nR/twhp/wwwlps/lessons/36liberty/36setting.htm The Liberty Bell - Setting the Stage] The National Park Service</ref> Among its most famous ringings was on July 8 1776 to announce the first public reading of the [[Declaration of Independence]].<ref name = "nps2">[http://www.nps.gov/archive/inde/liberty-bell.html The Liberty Bell] The National Park Service</ref>

The first bell was made in [[England]]. It arrived in Philadelphia in 1752 and cracked upon its first test ringing. A second bell was cast but its tone was found to be unsatisfactory. A third bell was cast, hung in the Pennsylvania State House (now Liberty Hall) in 1753. It weighs over 2000 pounds and its composition is 70% [[copper]], 25% [[tin]], and small amounts of [[lead]], [[zinc]], arsenic, [[gold]], and [[silver]]. <ref name = "nps2"/> It was rung on every anniversary of [[Independence Day]] (4th of July) until the time it cracked when rung on July 8, 1835 at the funeral of [[U.S. Supreme Court]] Justice [[John Marshall]].

Inscribed on the Liberty Bell is a verse from the [[Old Testament]]: <ref name = "nps2"/>

:"Proclaim Liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof." (Leviticus 25:10)

[[Image:Halfdollar.gif‎|left|thumb|300px|Benjamin Franklin Half Dollar Coin Reverse]]
The Liberty Bell is an important patriotic symbol and it's image can be found on many things including the reverse side of the [[Benjamin Franklin]] half-dollar coin issued by the [[United States Mint]] between 1948 and 1963. <ref> http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/circulatingCoins/index.cfm?action=CircHalfDollar </ref> <ref> http://www.silvercoinsbuyer.com/silver-half-dollar-coins.html </ref>

[[Image:Forever_Stamp.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Forever Stamp]]

The [[United States Postal Service]] features an image of the Liberty Bell on the "Forever stamp" which debuted on April 12, 2007. The stamp cost 41 cents and the Postal Service promises it will always be accepted as postage for First Class letters weighing 1 ounce or less anytime in the future regardless of price changes. <ref>http://pe.usps.gov/DMMAdvisory.asp?Dest=DMMAdvisory040207.htm</ref>
{{Clear}}
== See also ==

*[[Free enterprise]]
*[[Statue of Liberty]]
*[[Liberty]]

== References ==

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== Sources ==

[http://www.amerisearch.net/index.php?date=2004-07-08&view=View American Minute]

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Carl Sagan

2009-09-03T00:04:25Z

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'''Carl Sagan''' (1934-1996) was a professor of [[astronomy]] at [[Cornell University]] in Ithaca, New York, who became a celebrity on television and a vocal advocate for increased searches for intelligent life in outer space. ''Time'' magazine reported that Carl Sagan "talked with [[Jimmy Carter]] about such esoteric matters as [[black hole]]s and [[exobiology]] (the study of possible extraterrestrial life)."<ref>[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,951539,00.html Frederic Golden, "The Cosmic Explainer," Time.com 20 Oct. 1980.]</ref> He was instrumental in the development of Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence. ([[SETI]])

Professor Sagan, like many scientists throughout the 20th century, believed that intelligent life may exist on planets other than Earth. <blockquote>"The significance of a finding that there are other beings who share this universe with us would be absolutely phenomenal, it would be an epochal event in human history," Sagan declared.<ref>[http://www.cnn.com/US/9612/20/sagan/ Norma Quarles, "Carl Sagan Dies at 62," CNN.com 20 Dec. 1996.]</ref></blockquote>

Indeed, Sagan's most popular work of fiction ''Contact'', later made into a movie, was about finding extraterrestrial life.

To Sagan, there was nothing beyond physical reality.

<blockquote>"The cosmos is all that is, or ever was, or ever will be."<ref>Cosmos series, 1980</ref></blockquote>

Professor Sagan would slip in a subtle pitch for [[disarmament]] as he proclaimed his devotion to finding extraterrestrial life:<ref>[http://www.cnn.com/US/9612/20/sagan/ Quarles]</ref>

:"We have looked close-up at dozens of new worlds. Worlds we never saw before. And unless we are so stupid to destroy ourselves, we are going to be moving out to space in the next century," he said. "And if I'm fortunate enough to have played a part in the first preliminary reconnaissance in the [[solar system]], that's a terrifically exciting thing."

He often made his opposition to nuclear weapons clear. An episode of Cosmos, "Who Speaks for Earth," dealt with the possibility of nuclear annihilation explicitly.

From a religious point of view, Sagan was an [[atheist]] or an [[agnostic]] depending upon how it is interpreted. In practice he was an atheist, but as a scientist could never say with certainty that evidence couldn't arise that is currently unknown that would point toward a god force, he is more correctly described as being agnostic.<ref>http://www.nndb.com/people/324/000022258/</ref><ref>http://www.adherents.com/people/ps/Carl_Sagan.html</ref>

Sagan was also notable for his speech mannerisms, often spoofed and referenced in the media during the height of his popularity - as a celebrity scientist, he was an occasional guest on popular entertainment programs. The phrase "billions of billions of stars" is popularly associated with him, though he never actually used it.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1109.html</ref>

==Climate change==

<blockquote>
"Though Dr. Sagan is one of the most frequently cited experts on atmospheric issues by the media, his predictions are often wrong. For example, at the outset of the Persian Gulf War, Sagan warned that if Saddam Hussein delivered on his threat to set fire to Kuwait's oil wells, so much black soot would be sent into the stratosphere that sunlight would be blocked and a variation of the "[[nuclear winter]]" scenario would occur. Hussein followed through on his threat and by the close of the war over 600 wells were on fire. But the fires had little environmental or climatic effect beyond the Gulf region and virtually no ill effects globally."<ref>http://www.nationalcenter.org/dos7124.htm</ref></blockquote>

[[Fred Singer]] famously rebutted Sagan's prediction on national TV and was vindicated a few days later, when Sagan's nuclear winter scenario failed to materialize.<ref>"Retired atmospheric physicist Fred Singer dismissed Sagan's prediction as nonsense, predicting ['''correctly'''] that the smoke would dissipate in a matter of days." [http://www.crystalinks.com/sagan.html] </ref>

== References ==

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History of the Democrat party under Barack Obama

2009-09-02T23:54:23Z

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[[File:Obamunism.jpg|right|200px]]
'''Obamunism''' is a portmanteau of [[President Obama|Obama]] and [[Communism|Communism]],
coined by critics of the [[Obama administration]] to describe [[Barack Obama]]'s [[socialism|socialistic]] and "[[fascism]] light" economic policies ([[Benito Mussolini]] defined fascism as the wedding of state and corporate powers. Accordingly, trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] labels [[Obama administration corporate bailouts|Obama's corporate bailouts]] as being "fascism light" in nature).<ref>http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/daily-intel/2009/07/20/obamunism-inc</ref><ref>http://www.smallbusinessadvocate.com/small-business-interviews/gerald-celente-6944</ref> Obamunism can also refer to Obama's [[Obama administration fiscal policy|ruinous fiscal policies]] and [[Obama admistration monetary policy|reckless monetary policies]].

[[Wall Street]] firms and banks that were bailed out were among Obama's biggest campaign supporters.<ref>http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638</ref> Therefore, the Obama administration bailouts of corrupt, unproductive, and reckless Wall Street firms was hardly surprising, although it certainly was not helpful in making the United States economy more productive and prosperous. A 2005 study found that government corporate bailouts are often done for mere political considerations and the economic resources allocated exhibit significantly worse economic performance than resources that are invested using purely business considerations.<ref>http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=676905</ref>

==Economic policy==
=== Massive deficits ===

The Obama adminstration has also been criticized for its [[Obama admistration deficit spending|massive deficit spending]] and [[Obama admistration monetary policy|reckless monetary policy]] via vast increases in the [[Money supply|money supply]].<ref>http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching</ref><ref>http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm</ref><ref>http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/</ref>

Advocates of [[free market]] [[capitalism]] were also opposed to President [[George W. Bush]], who signed legislation passed by the Democratic House and Senate totaling over a trillion dollars in corporate bailouts in 2008. For example, the Treasury and Federal Reserve bailed out the leading banks and insurance companies in 2008 with hundreds of billions of dollars of guarantees of bad loans (called "toxic assets"). Bush demanded and in October 2008 Congress approved the $700 billion TARP program, which is the basis of most of Obama's bailouts. Bush also took the lead in the bail out General Motors, Chrysler and [[UAW]] jobs.

Trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] predicts that the corrupt economic policies of the Obama adminstration will lead to a second [[Great Depression|great depression]] that is global in scope (Celente predicted the 1987 US stock market crash, the dot.com crash, the US 2008/2009 recession, and the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s) and "second [[American Revolution]]" (Gerald Celente predicted the [[Tax Day Tea Party|tax protests]] that are now occurring in America).<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&feature=channel_page</ref><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&feature=response_watch</ref> Celente also asserts that the costly and inefficient temporary short term methods that the Obama administration is using to alleviate economic problems in the short term (which are causing massive increases in deficit spending) is only making matters worse and will not prevent the worse economic depression in United States history from occurring.<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8K7rWkGGw</ref><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBffdIW0XA&feature=response_watch</ref> In addition, Celente predicts that if a "second American Revolution" occurs in a peaceful and productive manner, it may include a [[Third Party System|third party movement]] of governance that will advocate a more [[free market]] [[capitalism]] approach to the American economy and a more strict interpretation of the [[United States Constitution|United States constitution]] as far as the authors' [[original intent]].<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&feature=channel_page</ref><ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&feature=response_watch</ref>

===Gerald Celente commentary on Obama's economic policy===
In a April 20, 2009 interview with ''Russia Today'', Gerald Celente stated concerning Barack Obama's economic policy:
{{cquote|America is going from what used to be the major capitalistic country in the world of free market – a crusader – into what [[Mussolini]] would have called fascism: the merger of state and corporate powers. So it is not socialism as people believe, it is socialism’s egalitarianism. It’s not communism where the state controls monopolies – it’s fascism, plain and simple. The merger of corporate and government powers. State-controlled capitalism is called fascism, and fascism has come to America in broad daylight. But they’re feeding them it in little bits and pieces. First [[AIG]] was too big to fail. Mortgage companies [[Fannie Mae]] and [[Freddie Mac]] were too big to fail. Banks too big to fail and auto companies. And now we give money to the people that make the auto parts. And now there’s talk about the technology companies, wanting their piece of the action. The merger of state and government is called fascism. Take it from Mussolini; he knew a thing or two about it.<ref>[http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/celente2.html interview]</ref>}}

==Command and Control==
===Census Bureau===

President Obama made a decision to have the director of the U.S. Census Bureau work directly with the White House, a move in advance of the 2010 census that will determine redistricting of congressional seats.

The Census is used to redraw district lines for elected seats in Congress and state legislatures. Efforts were made by the [[Bill Clinton|Clinton administration]] after the 2000 Census to adjust the totals for states and cities using statistical sampling and computer models. In 1999, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled 5-4 in ''Department of Commerce v. U.S. House'' that sampling could not be used to reapportion congressional seats. But it left open the possibility that sampling could be used to redraw political boundaries within the states.

Not only is it the basis for congressional redistricting, it provides the raw data by which government spending is allocated on everything from roads to schools. The Bureau of Labor Statistics also uses the Census to prepare the economic data that so much of business relies upon.

Rep. Darrell Issa of [[California]] and Rep. Patrick McHenry of [[North Carolina]] on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, addressed Presidnet Obama:
"Requiring the Census director to report directly to White House Chief of Staff [[Rahm Emanuel]] is a shamefully transparent attempt by your administration to politicize the Census Bureau and manipulate the 2010 Census. The constitutionally-mandated decennial Census needs to be fair, accurate and trusted. By circumventing the secretary of commerce's oversight of the Census Bureau and handing it directly to a political operative such as Mr. Emanuel, you are severely jeopardizing the fairness and accuracy of the 2010 Census." <ref>[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/05/census_director_to_report_to_w.html Census Director to Work Directly with White House], By Philip Rucker ''[[Washington Post]]'', February 5 2009.</ref> Issa also stated, "Any attempt by the [[Obama administration]] to circumvent the census process for their political benefit will be met with fierce opposition. This ill-conceived proposal undermines a constitutionally obligated process that speaks to the very heart of our [[democracy]]."

Michael Barone of ''[[USNews and WorldReport]]'' noted the White House power grab may violate the [[Constitution]].<ref>[http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2009/02/09/white-house-census-power-grab-may-violate-the-constitution.html ''White House Census Power Grab May Violate the Constitution''], Michael Barone, US News and World Report, February 09, 2009.</ref> Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution provides for an "actual enumeration" and a statute passed by Congress provides that the duties under this clause are to be performed by the secretary of commerce. Article is about the legislative, not the executive branch. Hence, the president can't substitute a sampling for the enumeration required to be done by the secretary.

Bruce Chapman, director of the U.S. Census Bureau under [[President Ronald Reagan]], explains
:"[I]f the nation's premier statistical agency were placed under White House direction, the danger to public trust would be enormous. The Decennial count is one of the few federal functions specifically described in the Constitution itself and must be operated above suspicion of politics. Power flows from an accurate census count. Everyone involved for years has seen the count therefore as a sacred trust. It must not be polluted with even a semblance of presidential meddling." <ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=88302 White House grabs 2010 census power], By Drew Zahn, ''WorldNetDaily'', February 07, 2009.</ref>

===National Security Council staff===

==Civilian National Security Force==
[[File:Def01.jpg|left|300px|thumb| A poster of the [[Maoist]] Red Guard during the Cultural Revolution. [http://www.okcu.edu/honors/colloquiums.pdf] ]]
Obama has called for a domestic "Civilian National Security Force" to be "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the United States military. ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s Video])<ref>http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html</ref> By contrast, the [[U.S. Army]] alone has nearly 500,000 troops, not counting reserves or [[National Guard]]. In 2007, the [[Pentagon|U.S. Defense]] budget was $439 billion.<ref>''[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=69601 Obama's 'civilian national security force']'', James Farah, [[WorldNetDaily.com]], July 15, 2008.</ref>

Rep. Bob Filner, a [[Democrat]] from [[California]] introduced H.R. 675, a bill that would amend title 10 of the United States Code and extend to civilian employees of the Department of Defense the authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms. The
bill would amend the United States code with the following: “Sec. 1585b. Law enforcement officers of the Department of Defense: authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms… for any offense against the United States.” The bill would define a “law enforcement officer of the Department of Defense” as “a civilian employee of the Department of Defense,” including federal police officers, detectives, criminal investigators, special agents, and game law enforcement officers classified by the Office of Personnel Management Occupational Series 0083. The United States Office of Personnel Management is described as an “independent agency” of the U.S. government that manages the civil service of the federal government.

The [[Department of Defense]] has issued Defense Directive 1404.10 ([http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/140410p.pdf read PDF]) that establishes a “DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce.” The Obama administration describes the Civilian Expeditionary Workforce as follows:

{{QuoteBox|Members of the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to deploy in support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations; humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05.}}

Both H.R. 675 and the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce directive will establish civilian “soft power” under the direction of the Pentagon. Alex Jones' Infowars.com site states, "Obama is now actively working to create a paramilitary 'civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded' as the military. In order to skirt Posse Comitatus, Obama’s paramilitary [[brownshirts]] will be organized and run out of the Office of Personnel Management with orders coming from the Pentagon."<ref>[http://www.infowars.com/hr-675-building-obamas-civilian-national-security-force/ H.R. 675: Building Obama’s Civilian National Security Force], Kurt Nimmo, Infowars, June 23, 2009.</ref>

Some critics have expressed concern over President Obama's intentions. <ref>[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94CDDM80&show_article=1 Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship], Bob Evans, Briebart, Nov 10 2008.</ref>

== Human Rights ==

=== Forced abortion ===
In March 2009 the [[Obama administration]] announced it would send $50 million to the United Nations Population Fund, or UNFPA. UNPFA actively promotes abortion and is working closely with Chinese population control officials to implement China's forced abotion policy. The [[CCP]]'s coercive one-child rule has resulted in forced abortions, involuntary sterilizations and other [[human rights]] abuses.<ref>[http://www.lifenews.com/int981.html Group Confirms Obama Would Fund Forced Abortions if UNFPA Money Restored], by Steven Ertelt, LifeNews.com Editor, November 12, 2008.</ref>

UNFPA officials work side-by-side their Chinese colleagues and even share the same offices.<ref>[http://www.lifenews.com/int1138.html Obama Administration Announces $50 Million for Pro-Forced Abortion UNFPA], by Steven Ertelt, LifeNews.com Editor, March 26, 2009.</ref>

===Guantanamo===

As the Democratic candidate for president Obama pledged on numerous occasions to countless audiences closing the [[Guantanamo Bay]] Detention facility housing uncharged captured combatants in order to "regain America's moral stature in the world." <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQXZoM__vU0 60 Minutes: Obama Reiterates Promise To Close Guantanamo Bay]</ref> After assuming office, Obama made a budget request to transfer the detainees to the [[United States]] without specifying where the detainees would be held. The Democratic-controlled Congress repudiated Obama by denying funding for that transfer, and leaders from both parties spoke against it.<ref>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6326589.ece</ref> Obama then endorsed indefinite detention without trial.<ref>[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052104045.html Obama Endorses Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Some], Peter Finn, Washington Post, May 22, 2009. </ref>

===Iran===
Obama has continued covert operations in [[Iran]] begun under President [[George W. Bush]]. Investigative journalist [[Seymour Hersh]] quotes numerous sources as saying that the [[U.S. Congress]] agreed to a Bush request in late 2007 to fund an escalation of covert operation in Iran. Hersh says those operations began as early as 2005. Bush signed a series of executive orders and findings [in late 2004] permitting the Pentagon to run clandestine, covert operations -- operations which Americans go into countries under cover.<ref>[http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/news/2009/intell-090113-rferl01.htm ''Reports Suggest Obama Faces Early Choice On Iran Covert Ops''] By Ron Synovitz, January 13, 2009.</ref> Jeremy R. Hammond writes in the [[progressive]] website ''Foreign Policy Journal'': "[G]iven the record of U.S. interference in the state affairs of Iran and clear policy of regime change, it certainly seems possible, even likely, that the U.S. had a significant role to play in helping to bring about the recent turmoil in an effort to undermine the government of the Islamic Republic.

According to Ken Timmerman, the executive director of the Foundation for Democracy in Iran ~ the Persian Service of [[Voice of America]] (VOA) clearly sided with Mir Hossein Mousavi against those dissident groups who wanted to boycott the election entirely, the position Timmerman favored. Timmerman saw the branding of Mousavi's "green revolution" as evidence that the US government was using its National Endowment for Democracy to support the former prime minister Mousavi. Post election violence claimed the lives of 69 people.<ref>[http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_13041572 ''Iranian reformists claim 69 dead in post-election violence''], By Nasser Karimi, The ''[[Associated Press]]'', 08/12/2009.</ref> Steve Weissman writes,
"[O]ur opposition to [ [[Ahmadinejad]] ] does not justify meddling in another country's election while proclaiming "universal democratic values."<ref>[http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2009/06/19.html ''Halt Cheney's And Now Obama's Covert Iran Operations''] by Allen L Roland, Salon.com, June 19, 2009.</ref>

Eric Margolis, a columnist for Quebecor Media Company in Canada and a contributor to ''The Huffington Post'', wrote: "While the majority of protests we see in Tehran are genuine and spontaneous, Western intelligence agencies and media are playing a key role in sustaining the uprising and providing communications, including the newest electronic method, via [[Twitter]]. These are covert techniques developed by the US during recent revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia that brought pro-US governments to power."

===Snitch list===
In July 2009 the [[White House]] began soliciting from its immense social media networks and the general public if the were to "see something on the web about [[Obamacare|health insurance reform]] that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov".<ref>http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/facts-are-stubborn-things/</ref><ref>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27655039/</ref>
Under the [[Privacy Act of 1974]], which was passed after the [[Richard Nixon|Nixon administration]] used federal agencies to illegally investigate individuals for [[political]] purposes, prohibits any federal agency from maintaining records on individuals exercising their right to [[free speech]].<ref>[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/ White House Move to Collect 'Fishy' Info May Be Illegal], [[FOXNews]].com, August 07, 2009</ref><ref>[http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/08/mark_your_calendar_flagwhiteho_1.asp Snitch List to be Released in 2018 (or 2022)?], Weeklystandard.com</ref>

Sen. [[John Cornyn]] of Texas stated in a letter to the White House, "I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed ‘fishy' or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests."<ref>http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ForPress.NewsReleases&ContentRecord_id=ebc2c77d-802a-23ad-4ae4-6ccf4c7a255c</ref>
Congressman Darrell Issa also expressed grave concern about the administration blurring the lines between political and official business by collecting data on administration critics.<ref>http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=8352544</ref>

===Patriot Act===

The Obama [[Justice Department]] has been accused of being "secretive, tyrannical, and oppressive" and compared with [[President George W. Bush]], "even worse."<ref>[http://donedems.com/2009/04/14/holy-crap-obama-actually-manages-to-make-the-patriot-act-worse-than-under-bush/ Obama Actually Manages to Make the Patriot Act WORSE than Under Bush], DONE, April 14, 2009,</ref> As a candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush Administration "invoked a legal tool known as the 'state secrets' privilege more than any other previous administration to get cases thrown out of civil court," however in a motion to dismiss ''Jewel v. NSA'', the Electronic Frontier Foundation litigation against the National Security Agency for the warrantless wiretapping, the [[Obama Administration]] argued that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. The Obama administration argued that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.

The Obama Jusitice Department then argued that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes. BirchBricker writing in the ''Auburn Journal'' then points out, "This is a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one — not the [[White House]], not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the [[Bush Administration]] — has ever interpreted the law this way....The Obama Administration goes two steps further than Bush did, and claims that the [[US PATRIOT Act]] also renders the U.S. immune from suit under the two remaining key federal surveillance laws: the Wiretap Act and the Stored Communications Act. Essentially, the Obama Adminstration has claimed that the government cannot be held accountable for illegal surveillance under any federal statutes." <ref>[http://my.auburnjournal.com/detail/111477.html?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=Patriot+Act&user_id=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&event_ts_to=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=2&sub_type=&town_id= It's Actually Possible... The Patriot Act Gets Worse], ''Auburn Journal'', 4/12/09.</ref>

===Religious persecution===

In May 2009 bibles were burned at Bagram Air Base in [[Afghanistan]].<ref>[http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/20/Military-burns-Bibles-sent-to-Afghanistan/UPI-70431242828660/ Military burns Bibles sent to Afghanistan], UPI, May 20, 2009.</ref><ref>[http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32000 Is the Military Supposed to Burn Bibles?], by Robert Maginnism, ''Human Events'', 05/26/2009.</ref>

===Free speech===

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 would give the administration authority to conduct warrentless spying and dictatorial power over Internet.<ref>[http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/should-obama-control-internet Should Obama Control the Internet?], ''Mother Jones'', April 2 2009.</ref>

*Section 215 -- drastically broadens the kinds of information the government can demand under Foreign Intelligenc Ssecurity Act to "any tangible thing" while lowering the burden of proof to obtain such an order. According to the ''[[Washington Post]]'' this measure "allows investigators probing terrorism to seek a suspect's records from third parties such as financial services and travel and telephone companies without notifying the suspect. The American Civil Liberties Union has criticized the provision, saying it violates the First Amendment rights of U.S. citizens."

*Section 206 -- grants the authority to use secret "roving wiretaps." "In the past, authorities had to seek court approval for each electronic device carried by a suspect, from a cellphone and a BlackBerry to a home computer," writes the ''Post'', "But under the provision, one warrant can cover all of those machines." "Unlike roving wiretaps authorized for criminal investigations," the ACLU explains, "section 206 does not require the order to identify either the communications device to be tapped nor the individual against whom the surveillance is directed, which is what gives section 206 the Kafkaesque moniker, the "John Doe roving wiretap provision."

*Section 6001 -- or the "lone wolf" provision, which allows for secret FISA surveillance orders against people who have no connections to a terror group or foreign nation. "The government justified this provision by imagining a hypothetical "lone wolf," an international terrorist operating independently of any terrorist organization," explains the ACLU, "but there is little evidence to suggest this imaginary construct had any basis in reality."

==Further reading==

*[http://blogsforvictory.com/2009/06/22/understanding-obamunism/ ''Understanding Obamunism''] by Mark Noonan on June 22nd, 2009.
*[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/hawaii-obama.pdf ''Communism in Hawaii and the Obama Connection''], Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein.
*[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/chicago-obama.pdf ''Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection''], Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein.

==See also==
*[[Obamacare]]
*[[Obama administration fiscal policy]]
*[[Obama administration monetary policy]]
*[[Obama administration corporate bailouts]]

==External Links ==

'''General Resources:'''

*[http://www.europac.net/whitepapers/BewareOfObamanomics.pdf Beware Of Obamanomics]
*[http://obamunism.us/ Obamunism]

'''Articles on Obama administration monetary policy''':

*[http://www.swifteconomics.com/2009/07/18/feds-treasury-purchases/ Fed’s Treasury Purchases March 2009 to July 2009]
*[http://military.rightpundits.com/2009/08/13/federal-reserve-is-printing-money-prepare-for-hyper-inflation/ Federal Reserve is Printing Money: Prepare for Hyper-Inflation] August 13, 2009
*[http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching Monetary Policy — Not Obama's Stimulus—Is What Needs Watching]
*[http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/ContrarianChronicles/printing-money-isnt-the-cure.aspx Printing money is not the cure]

'''2009 Obama Administration Monetary Policy Videos''':

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw1hkEor6sM&feature=channel_page Glenn Beck on Printing Money]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdEuXuslrLA Ron Paul, Glenn Beck & Company: Monetizing the Debt - The Truth]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4v5x932cNE Peter Schiff - Impending hyperinflation]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpQqLCbD1EY&feature=related Inflation Is Going To Increase Very Substantially As A Result Of Money Printing] May 30, 2009
*[http://www.youtube.com/user/hyperstagflation Hyperstagflation]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVOuC0qSrR8 $78.8 Trillion; United States Debt Obligations exceed world GDP; Monetary Collapse Looming?] February 16, 2009

'''2008 Obama Administration Monetary Policy Videos'''

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ahaczm7Ahw Peter Schiff - Obama = print print print print print] - November 06, 2008

'''2009 Articles on Obama administration fiscal policy:'''

*[http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm Bam's Wise Words] - [[New York Post]], May 17, 2009
*[http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/ Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures] - [[Heritage Foundation]], March 24th, 2009

'''2009 Videos on Obama administration fiscal policy:'''

*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac9TG15xbGg Over 200 top economist against the Obama plan]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gjzr0JQuic&feature=related Obamanomics 101 - Obama's Real Fiscal Policy]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72GLNrYwjlQ America, we must find a new fiscal policy]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yREOUxo6Qdc Stop Spending Our Future]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MsdCuuW0j8 Obama Deficit Dishonesty?]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVOuC0qSrR8 $78.8 Trillion; United States Debt Obligations exceed world GDP; Monetary Collapse Looming?] February 16, 2009

==References==
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[[Category: Politics]]
[[Category:Barack Hussein Obama]]

Leech

2009-09-02T19:26:32Z

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'''Leeches''' are annelids or segmented [[worms]], which are closely related to earthworms. Although they are closely related, their behavior and anatomy are more specialized. They feed by clinging onto a host body and sucking their [[blood]]. Leeches mainly reside in fresh water [[lakes]] or swamps and their presence is usually undesired. Some species are also capable of living on land or in the ocean. Leeches have been used extensively in medicine for over 2000 years, and are still used to treat diseases such as [[gangrene]] even today.<ref>http://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/article.html?article_id=49262</ref>

Because they are well-known as blood-sucking parasites, the term "leech" is often used colloquially to refer to someone who sponges off of others or off of the system.

'''Leech''' is also an archaic term for a [[doctor]].

==References==
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[[Category:Invertebrates]]
[[Category:Medicine]]

Hollywood Walk of Fame

2009-09-02T19:10:21Z

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The '''Hollywood Walk of Fame''' has a series of 2,500 stars embedded in the sidewalk of [[Hollywood]] Boulevard for famous or accomplished entertainers. These entertainers do not necessarily exist in real life; fictional monster [[Godzilla]], for example, has his own star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

== References ==

http://www.hollywoodchamber.net/explore/tourism.asp

[[category:landmarks]]

Hollywood Walk of Fame

2009-09-02T19:09:58Z

DaveB7: Wikilinking Godzilla and smoothing out sentence.

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The '''Hollywood Walk of Fame''' has a series of 2,500 stars embedded in the sidewalk of [[Hollywood]] Boulevard for famous or accomplished entertainers. These entertainers do not necessarily exist in real life, fictional monster [[Godzilla]], for example, has his own star in the Hollywood Walf of Fame.

== References ==

http://www.hollywoodchamber.net/explore/tourism.asp

[[category:landmarks]]

Hollywood Walk of Fame

2009-09-02T19:08:43Z

DaveB7: Improved reference - using Hollywood chamber of commerce site.

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The '''Hollywood Walk of Fame''' has a series of 2,500 stars embedded in the sidewalk of [[Hollywood]] Boulevard for famous or accomplished entertainers. These entertainers do not necessarily exist in real life, as Godzilla has his own star in the Hollywood Walf of Fame.

== References ==

http://www.hollywoodchamber.net/explore/tourism.asp

[[category:landmarks]]

Light Pollution

2009-09-02T19:04:20Z

DaveB7:

'''Light pollution''' is a man-made phenomenon whereby a detailed view of the night sky is obscured by excessive or poorly-designed artificial lighting, especially in or around cities and towns. This is a significant concern for amateur and professional [[astronomers]], since the vast majority of [[stars]] and astronomical features which would otherwise be visible from the earth's surface are hidden from view, or visible at a decreased resolution, within many miles of a developed population center. Many people consider light pollution unsightly, and it can have a detrimental effect on the fauna of nearby [[wilderness]] areas, especially for [[nocturnal]] animals.<ref>http://www.starrynightlights.com/lpIndex.html</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category: Astronomy]]

Dr. Seuss

2009-09-02T18:52:22Z

DaveB7: Eliminating book that doesn't actually exist from list. ?_?

'''Theodor Seuss Geisel''' (2 March 1904 – 24 September 1991) better known by his ''[[pen name|nom de plume]]'' of '''Dr. Seuss''', was an [[America|American]] author and illustrator. A graduate of [[Dartmouth]] and [[Oxford]], he spent many unsuccesful years before fame would find him. A keen proponent of [[phonics]], he expressed regrets that his books had been used as part of the "[[John Dewey|Dewey revolt]]" in the 1920s, "in which they threw out phonics reading and went to word recognition, as if you're reading [[Chinese character|Chinese pictographs]] instead of blending sounds of different letters. I think killing phonics was one of the greatest causes of [[illiteracy]] in the country."<ref>[http://www.nrrf.org/article_kcs_3-11-02.htm ''Dr. Seuss believed in phonics'']. Originally interviewed for ''Arizona Magazine''. June 1981. Sourced NRRF. 13 May 2008</ref>

==Notable Works==
*''[[Green Eggs and Ham]]''
*''[[How the Grinch Stole Christmas]]''
*''[[The Cat in the Hat]]''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Literature]]
[[category: poetry]]
[[Category:Books for Children]]

Dr. Seuss

2009-09-02T18:50:27Z

DaveB7: De-redding wikilinks

'''Theodor Seuss Geisel''' (2 March 1904 – 24 September 1991) better known by his ''[[pen name|nom de plume]]'' of '''Dr. Seuss''', was an [[America|American]] author and illustrator. A graduate of [[Dartmouth]] and [[Oxford]], he spent many unsuccesful years before fame would find him. A keen proponent of [[phonics]], he expressed regrets that his books had been used as part of the "[[John Dewey|Dewey revolt]]" in the 1920s, "in which they threw out phonics reading and went to word recognition, as if you're reading [[Chinese character|Chinese pictographs]] instead of blending sounds of different letters. I think killing phonics was one of the greatest causes of [[illiteracy]] in the country."<ref>[http://www.nrrf.org/article_kcs_3-11-02.htm ''Dr. Seuss believed in phonics'']. Originally interviewed for ''Arizona Magazine''. June 1981. Sourced NRRF. 13 May 2008</ref>

==Notable Works==
*''[[Green Eggs and Ham]]''
*''[[How the Grinch Stole Christmas]]''
*''[[The Cat in the Hat]]''
*''[[How the Whos Saved Whoville]]''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Literature]]
[[category: poetry]]
[[Category:Books for Children]]

Environmentalist

2009-09-02T18:46:37Z

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'''Environmentalists''' are concerned with "protecting" the environment instead of letting human beings take dominion over it. Going way beyond [[conservationism]], they seek legal limitations on human use of the Earth's natural environment and resources. Media reporting usually blurs the distinction between "no-use" environmentalism and "wise-use" conservation.

[[David Gelernter]] wrote:
*Passionate environmentalists reject the proposition that love of nature is ennobling because loving nature is good for human dignity and happiness. They flirt instead with a worldview in which human beings are a species on a par with every other, and nature is to be protected not because you damage other people’s happiness when you destroy it wantonly but because nature itself has rights to assert against man. The Smithsonian, for example, posted a label in its Museum of Natural History apologizing for a display in which “humans are treated as more important than other mammals.” [http://www.city-journal.org/html/6_4_the_immorality.html]

==Forest fires and "saving" trees==

In June 2007 residents of Lake Tahoe California were furious at environmentalists and the grip they hold on government regulators who refused to allow the clearing of dead trees. 1,300 homes sustained damage, and the newly homeless victims blamed the special interest environmentalists for their woes.

The amount of fuel in the Tahoe Basin reached critical levels after years of discord among environmentalists and government agencies over how to thin forests and reduce the fire threat. And it has led to predictions of a devastating wildfire because the basin is one of the areas with the most fire starts in the Sierra Nevada. <ref>[http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-clearance26jun26,0,2914697.story?coll=la-home-center Crowd aims fury at regional panel], Land use agency is criticized for failing to allow adequate clearing of combustible materials. By Eric Bailey and J. Michael Kennedy, ''Los Angelas Times'', June 26, 2007.</ref>

==Animal rights and vegetarians==

Citing a heretofore unknown connection between the environment, [[animal rights]], and [[vegetarianism]] movements, [[People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals]] (PETA) requested of [[Democratic]] Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives [[Nancy Pelosi]] and Senate Majority Leader [[Harry Reid]] special treatment in administration of tax laws used to support ecological sustainability. PETA President Ingrid Newkirk alleges, "[V]egetarians are responsible for far fewer [[greenhouse-gas]] emissions and other kinds of environmental degradation than meat-eaters," and that vegetarians should receive a tax break "just as people who purchase a hybrid vehicle enjoy a tax break."

Asked how would the government certify the special interest tax break would go to vegetarians only, PETA spokesman Matt Prescott said, "I imagine that a system could be adopted whereby taxpayers could show receipts for food purchases and/or sign an affidavit attesting … that they are vegetarian." <ref>[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/peta-seeks-tax-breaks-for-vegetarians-2007-05-31.html PETA seeks tax breaks for vegetarians], By Ilan Wurman, ''The Hill'', May 31, 2007.</ref>

==Worship of Gaia==
The environmentalist movement has taken on a new age religious philosophy, and this belief system is considered to be the religion of choice for urban [[Atheism|atheists]] and is one of the most powerful religions in the Western World:
{{Cquote|The religion of environmentalism is a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional [[Judeo-Christian]] beliefs and myths. There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe.

Eden, the fall of man, the loss of grace, the coming doomsday---these are deeply held mythic structures. They are profoundly conservative religious beliefs. These are not facts that can be argued. These are issues of faith. Facts aren't necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It's about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them. <ref>[[Michael Crichton]], [http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote05.html Environmentalism as Religion]," Commonwealth Club, San Francisco, CA, September 15, 2003. </ref>}}

Former U.S. Vice President [[Al Gore]] sees a "spiritual crisis" in [[global warming]]. <ref>[http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050607.01B.gore.35aecd4.html Gore sees 'spiritual crisis' in warming], Anton Caputo, ''San Antonio Express News'', 05/05/2007. </ref> He also believes that [[goddess]] worship is a better and more legitimate spiritual belief than [[Christianity]] and that the life of human beings is comparable to that of trees.<ref>http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45581</ref> British biologist James Lovelock <ref>*James Lovelock, [http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,,1738945,00.html ''Revenge of Gaia''], Publisher: Allen Lane, 02/02/2006. ISBN13: 9780713999143 </ref> first publicly explained the Gaia theory - that the earth as a whole is a living, conscious organism. <ref>[http://www.tcrnews2.com/gennewage.html Eco-spirituality, eco-feminism, global spirituality, ecological theology, creation spirituality, the new cosmology] </ref> Rep. Helen Chenoweth (R-Idaho) has described this phenomenon as "environmental religion" and says that it has "profound constitutional implications" because of the First Amendment prohibition on government establishment of religion. <ref>Cliff Kincaid, [http://www.usasurvival.org/cultofgaia.html ''Al Gore, the United Nations, and the Cult of Gaia''], (1999). </ref>

[[Reid Bryson|Dr. Reid Bryson]], founding chairman of the department of meteorology at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]] and of the Institute for Environmental Studies, now known as the [[Gaylord Nelson]] Institute for Environmental Studies and is known as the father of scientific climatology says of global warming:
{{Cquote|It's almost a religion. Where you have to believe in anthropogenic (or man-made) global warming or else you are nuts. <ref>[http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/topstories/197613 Local scientist calls global warming theory hooey], Samara Kalk Derby, ''The Capital Times'', 6/18/2007. </ref>}}

Environmentalism has been called "school prayer for liberals", in the sense that it functions as a substitute spiritual experience for them, since they lack a true spiritual connection to God. This allows them to feel good about themselves, if only temporarily. <ref>http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2009/07/01/environmentalism-is-school-prayer-for-liberals/?email=1</ref>

==The Bible and Environmentalism==
{{Cquote|And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis 1:28}}

Many Christians have looked to this passage to justify their use of the gifts God has left us in and on the Earth. [[Farming]], [[fishing]], [[mining]], [[oil drilling]], [[hunting]], [[industry]], and the like are all examples of human beings making the most of our dominion, converting it into glorious products that help our fellow man. Products like [[medicine]], [[shelter]], and [[food]] satisfy the basic needs of mankind, while other products make a life serving God easier and more effective.

However, other Christians interpret this as [[stewardship]], the belief that human beings are "caretakers" of the Earth.

== Deep Ecology ==
Deep ecology is an environmental movement that rejects [[modern]] culture and seeks to include non-human life in the moral circle. They find the cause of the current ecological crisis in the modern attitude towards the environment. The theory can be defined as the following principles;
1. The well-being and flourishing of human and non-human life on Earth have value in themselves. These values are independent of the usefulness of the non-human world for human purposes.
2. Richness and diversity of life forms contribute to the realization of these values and are also values in themselves.
3. Humans have no right to reduce this richness and diversity except to satisfy vital needs.
4. The flourishing of human life and cultures is compatible with a substantial decrease of the human population. The flourishing of non-human life requires such a decrease.
5. Present human interference with the non-human world is excessive, and the situation is rapidly worsening.
6. Policies must therefore be changed. The changes in policies affect basic economic, technological, and ideological structures. The resulting state of affairs will be deeply different from the present.
7. The ideological change is mainly that of appreciating quality (dwelling in situations of inherent worth) rather than adhering to an increasingly higher standard of living. There will be a profound awareness of the difference between big and great.
8. Those who subscribe to the foregoing points have an obligation directly or indirectly to participate in the attempt to implement the necessary changes.

Issues that arise from the practise of this theory is where one life form needs another life form as food. Such an example may include humans needing to eat a cow, how would a deep ecologist jusitify this?

== Wilderness ==
See [[wilderness]]

==See Also==
*[[Conservation and environmentalism]]
*[[Socialist Environmental Disasters]]
*[[Previous Breaking News/Environmentalist|Examples of Environmentalism from previous "Breaking News" articles]]

==References==

<references/>
For deep ecology see Environmental Ethics; A Guide. Hammerman and Gass 1993
[[Category:Political Terms]]
[[Category:Environmentalism]]

Mentor

2009-09-02T18:37:32Z

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A '''mentor''' is a person who acts as a wise [[counsel]]lor and guide to a younger or more inexperienced person, generally on an informal, one-to-one basis. Mentors can be found in most areas of life, but are most beneficial where the mentor helps his or her pupil to a more Godly or spiritual life. Mentors are also found in [[academia]], [[politics]] and other areas of life. In the business world, "mentoring", where an experienced business person takes a more junior, but promising, employee under his or her wing, is increasingly a recognised and formalised practice.

Rarely, the junior partner in a relationship can be the mentor. Such a case is the appointment of Senator [[Joseph Biden]] as the [[Democratic Party]] vice-presidential candidate, his role clearly being to mentor the inexperienced presidential candidate, Senator [[Barack Obama]].<ref>http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/obama-misspea-1.html</ref>

The word 'mentor' derives from a character in [[Homer]]'s [[Odyssey]]: the original Mentor was a wise old man who tutored Telemachus during Odysseus' long absence.

Mentor is also a city of 50,000 in the North Eastern Ohio suburb of Cleveland.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Education]]
[[Category:Ohio_Cities_and_Towns]]

Matt Lauer

2009-09-02T18:32:58Z

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'''''Matt Lauer''''' is a co-host of [[NBC]]'s ''[[The Today Show]]''. He is considered to have [[liberal]] viewpoints. <ref>http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/2007/fax20070105.asp</ref>
==References==
<references/>

{{DEFAULTSORT: Lauer, Matt}}
[[category:broadcasters]]

Talk:Conservative Bible Project

2009-09-02T18:27:53Z

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==The Example==
I learned on this site that the Adulteress Story might not be an original addition to the Bible, and after looking into it myself, there does seem to be a good deal of evidence supporting this. I've similarly been trying to find authorities who question the authenticity of the Luke passage given here, but I haven't been able to find any. What is the source for this, and perhaps should the second to last paragraph of [[Essay:Adulteress Story]] be modified to reflect that this passage is also in dispute? [[User:JacobB|JacobB]] 10:54, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

: That would be great if you added reference to the doubtful (but often-quoted by liberals) statement in Luke to the end of the Adulteress Story essay.

: As to sources, my hardcopy [[NIV]] (annotated with Greek/Hebrew and other references) explains that this statement in Luke is not in several of the earliest manuscripts. Thinking about the statement, it doesn't make sense and it's not corroborated anywhere else. It's obvious liberal bias.

: The advantage of this conservative Bible project is that it picks out the liberal bias (and thus lack authenticity) easier. Thanks for your contributions to this.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:03, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

This is a very interesting study project, but the problem to me is that it begins with the assumption that Christianity must fit with another ideology (conservatism) rather than accepting the possibility that Christianity might in fact not fit with conservatism. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 17:47, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

: That's a valid point, but I don't think that taking a conservative approach to translation assumes a perfectly conservative result. The conservative approach is simply a substantive alternative to other approaches, such as "word-for-word" ([[NASB]]) or "thought-for-thought" ([[NIV]]). How ''successful'' the conservative approach is, or how close a fit the text is to conservative substance, is a good topic for discussion ''after'' the approach is taken.

: There are already liberal approaches to translation of the Bible, as reflected by some liberal Bible versions on the market that were developed by predominantly liberal interpreters.

: By the way, on the issue of whether working on a new translation is itself objectionable, I recall that on my final exam in a Greek course the (monastic) teacher required us to translate a passage of the [[New Testament]] into English. No one raised an objection to that, except perhaps to its difficulty! :-) --[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:58, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

::I have no problem with new translations for purposes of learning, though I don't believe that any new translation could be singularly authoritative. I don't believe I could help as I know absolutely nothing about Biblical languages but good luck! [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 20:38, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

::: I can see from trying the first book (the [[Epistle to Philemon (Translated)]]) that this approach can be summed as a "conservative thought-for-thought" translation, as words are going to change. "Prisoner" in Christ, or "fellow laborer," just don't resonate as well today. Obviously this is not an easy task, but it is an educational one.

::: Or maybe this could be called a "conservative word-for-word" translation if only individual words are updated.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:58, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

::::Well it's a good idea to change words if the original is not powerful enough or does not properly convey the theological idea. However, my reservation is the possibility of an ideological translation, in which "conservative" words are substituted that might appear to change the original meaning. As you said, it's educational!

What are you considering as a better term for "prisoner" or fellow laborer"? By the way, you should look into [[the Message]] Bible, which attempts (sometimes badly) to update the Bible into modern times without changing the message. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 21:11, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

: I'm not sure [[the Message]] Bible adhered to conservative principles. Its modernization may have been a liberalization. Adhering to conservative principles is what gives credibility and guidance to a modern translation.

: "Laborer" has an overriding economic meaning today. That can't be what Paul meant - he was a volunteer! "Fellow traveler", perhaps, or more conservative (and more accurate) might be "fellow volunteer."--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:20, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

Do you have some person who speaks Hebrew to help with this? I am a native speaker. I will help if you give me specific problems you have to translate. [[User:ShmuelBernstein|ShmuelBernstein]] 00:19, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

: We welcome all legitimate contributions to this project.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:05, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
::I do not so far think I have much to contribute for what I have seen you working on so far from the Christian Gospels because it was not written in Hebrew, but please keep me in mind as a native speaker when you have questions about Biblical Hebrew from the Tanach. [[User:ShmuelBernstein|ShmuelBernstein]] 12:17, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

:::OK. You're welcome to post a book from the Hebrew Bible and start on it, just as I did from the New Testament. Our goal is to translate the entire Bible, so the sooner we include the Hebrew, the better!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:42, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
::::I think the project of updating a Bible by addressing idea by idea concerns about older translations is great because language evolves by its nature to accommodate the milieu and ethos of its time. One must be able to refer to the original language when there are questions about the real meaning of words. I think modern languages are most assuredly more capable of accurately and forcefully communicating ideas that make better sense to us than the old languages of our forefathers. But I do not know with what eye you would view the Tanach to make this translation of the Bible. It seems to me that for the most part any English language translation of the Bible that is written in such prose that pleases one would be an adequate starting point for then going in earnest to search for and root out translations that are not correct or could be more adequately expressed in modern language. I will examine the program for this project that you have put on the first page of this article and set to working on the Tanach with your guidance. [[User:ShmuelBernstein|ShmuelBernstein]] 14:06, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

:::::For a translation in English, it seems reasonable to use the [[King James Version]] as the baseline, since it has been widely accepted, it is written at the highest grade level, and it is freely available (public domain). Sound good?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:30, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::I do not have the King James Version, but I see that it is available online. It is filled with archaic Jacobean language, so I can certainly see why you would wish to make a modern translation. I have looked at the work done on the Gospel of Mark and have some questions about how this project is done. Is someone doing this translation from looking at the original Greek to modernize the language? Or is it being done through some other concern? The sentence structure is sometimes far different than the original King James Version that I think the sentences are being restated in some manner. Is this correct? I am trying to understand what makes a conservative bible, so wonder what some of the 12 conditions stated on the project page mean. For example, Number 11 says "use glorifying language for the remarkable achievements." Does this mean that if the idea of the glory of a person's conduct or person is not in the Bible it is to be added? Also "recognizing that Christianity introduced powerful new concepts that even the Greek and Hebrew were inadequate to express, but modern conservative language can express well" is not clear to me - if some concept was not adequately expressed in Hebrew or Greek it cannot be adequately expressed in a translation into another language because it was beyond the ability of the writer to communicate in the original language. One might surmise what the author intended and make appropriate notes. However the language of the Bible itself is what must be translated or it is not a translation but a restatement and amplification of ideas rather than language. I think this last point clarifies the source of my confusion about the project. I look forward to hearing from you. [[User:ShmuelBernstein|ShmuelBernstein]] 16:32, 18 August 2009 (EDT)

:::::::I don't agree that "if some concept was not adequately expressed in Hebrew or Greek it cannot be adequately expressed in a translation into another language." Parables, for example, transcend inadequacies in language and it is fully possible to take a parable written in a simplistic language and express it more fully in a richer language.

:::::::A [[conservative Bible]] uses the richness provided in part by conservative language to fully convey the concepts. The original Greek and Hebrew may help sometimes, or they may be inadequate. "Logos" in the beginning of John illustrates this point, as the term is merely the best the Greek has to offer. "Truth" as fully understood and used today, as developed and popularized by the conservative movement (it's rarely used by the Left), is a better term to convey the concept.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:56, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
Are you and who else is helping with the Gospel of Mark referring to the Greek when making your changes to the KJV? [[User:ShmuelBernstein|ShmuelBernstein]] 09:04, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== Wikilinking some things, Footnotes ==

Seeing the comment "Translate Beelzebub better?" in the Mark translation got me thinking. This project is unlike many other translation projects, in that it is being conducted on a wiki that has an absolute wealth of information on relevant topics. What do people think of wikilinking terms that might be unfamiliar to readers. I'm '''not''' suggesting that every term that has a corresponding wiki page get a link. That would just look messy. I do think it might be useful to link things like place names (provided that they have adequate associated pages.) It's like the best footnotes you could hope for. Of course, things should still be translated in such a way that everything makes sense without having to click on links for things, but there are places where I think that a wikilink would be just the thing. (Additionally, adding footnotes might not be a bad idea in general - there may be places where it's hard to capture the nuance and context without breaking the cadence or pace of the prose or adding an bunch of detail that isn't in the original text.) [[User:DaveB7|DaveB7]] 14:27, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

The Daily Show

2009-09-02T18:12:07Z

DaveB7: Added ref

'''''The Daily Show''''' purports to be a [[satire|satirical]] program that airs on cable network [[Comedy Central]]. It is known for catering to an audience of [[public school]] teenagers, more than 60% of whom, a study of one school district found, watch television for over three hours a day.<ref>http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/dec/01/memphis-youth-make-progress-on-risky-behavior/ (study of Memphis students)</ref>

[[Liberal]]s have recognized the [[leftist]] slant of the show by giving it a [[Peabody Awards|Peabody Award]] and nine [[Emmy]]s.<ref>IMDb - Awards for The Daily Show [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115147/awards]</ref>

== Early Years ==

The show was originally hosted by Craig Kilborn, but in 1998 [[Jon Stewart]] replaced Kilborn.

== Jon Stewart on ''The Daily Show'' ==

Jon Stewart is a noted [[liberal]] and is currently the host of ''The Daily Show''. He often satirizes [[George W. Bush]], the war in [[Iraq War|Iraq]], [[United States Congress|Congress]], and [[United States]] foreign policy.<ref>http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20060711_jon_stewart_bush_diplomacy/</ref> Like other network news channels, Stewart often shows video clips, sound bites, and news stories in which Republican and other Conservative [[politicians]] are made to look silly, often edited or taken out of context so that they appear to be contradicting themselves, or showing [[United States Senate|Senate]] speeches that seem ridiculous. However, he gives a notably easy ride to President [[Obama]] and most other [[liberal]]s.

== Correspondents ==

The comedians can be seen as showing a [[liberal bias]] while performing their "news" stories. The segments are usually aimed at poking fun at and satirizing the political parties in power. Thus, Stewart began by [[mockery|mocking]] [[Republicans]], but now makes fun of [[Democrats]], as well as other topics in the news. Some argue that he demeans [[conservative]] positions, such as the [[Second Amendment|Right to Bear Arms]] and the [[Pro-Life]] Movement, or [[Christianity]].<ref>http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2008/08/28/daily-show-billboard-mocks-republicans/</ref> One segment in particular, "This Week In God", satirizes [[religious]] values while mocking [[God]].<ref>http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=72342</ref> <ref>http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=72182</ref> During the episode aired June 27, 2007, [[Lewis Black]] compared Conservapedia's "[[Homosexuality]]" article to [[Wikipedia]]'s, sarcastically describing it as "way more interesting," mainly because Conservapedia's article described it far more graphically. In their coverage of the [[United States Presidential Election, 2008|2008 U.S. presidential election]], most of the guests have been liberal, such as former president [[Bill Clinton]], first lady [[Michelle Obama]] and former [[British]] [[Prime Minister]] [[Tony Blair]].

== References ==

<references/>

==External Links==

[http://www.thedailyshow.com The official ''The Daily Show with Jon Stewart'' website]

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[[category:Television Shows]]

Crab

2009-09-02T18:05:38Z

DaveB7: Added ref

[[Image:SallyLightfootCrab.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sally Lightfoot crab]]
'''Crabs''' are a large family of [[decapod]] [[crustacean]]s. There are hundreds of [[species]], mainly [[marine]], although [[freshwater]] species such as the [[Chinese]] [[mitten crab]], and land-dwelling species such as the [[robber crab]] (which climbs [[coconut]] trees to feed on the [[nut]]s), also exist.

The [[Alaska]]n [[king crab]] is the heaviest species of crab, but the [[Japan]]ese [[spider crab]] has much longer legs, sometimes spanning ten feet or more.<ref>http://www.vincelewis.net/spider.html</ref> The smallest species of crabs are the [[pea crab]]s, that live as [[commensal]]s inside the shells of many [[bivalve]] [[mollusc]]s.

Crabs are typically [[omnivorous]], feeding primarily on [[algae]], but happy to scavenge or capture live prey when available. Crabs are themselves the common prey of many marine [[organism]]s, including [[cod]], [[cuttlefish]] and [[octopus]]es.

Crabs are an important fishery in many parts of the world.

The [[horseshoe crab]], ''Limulus'', is not actually a crab, or even a crustacean.

==References==
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[[Category:Crustaceans]]
[[Category:Seafood]]
[[Category:Non-Kosher Animals]]

Cohabitation

2009-09-02T18:04:02Z

DaveB7: Added ref

'''Cohabitation''' is a term usually used to describe a couple living together in a sexual relationship without the benefit of marriage. Multiple studies from the 1970's through the present have shown that cohabitating couples are less stable than marriages. On average their relationships will not last as long and the level of satisfaction is lower. <ref>"Married men and women report very active sex lives—as do those who are cohabiting. But the married appear to be more satisfied with sex than others." [http://www.gwu.edu/~icps/waite.html]</ref>
There is also a higher incidence of domestic violence. Cohabitating couples also have significantly higher rates of divorce if they do get married. <ref>"... marriages that follow an extensive period of cohabitation ... end in divorce at disproportionately high rates" [http://larison.org/archives/000540.php] </ref>
The more partners someone cohabitates with before marriage, the less likely they are to have a stable marriage relationship.<ref>http://www.foreverfamilies.net/xml/articles/benefitsofchastity.aspx</ref>

In some countries with Laws based on English Common Law , couples who cohabit may find themselves legally married after a prescribed time. This is referred to as a common law marriage. <ref> common law marriage.[http://www.expertlaw.com/library/family_law/common_law.html] </ref>

==References==
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Hockey Stick Hoax

2009-09-02T18:00:40Z

DaveB7: Added ref

The '''"hockey stick graph"''' is a fraudulent<ref>"The hockey stick, the poster-child of the global warming community, turns out to be an artifact of poor mathematics,"[http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925431.400] Physicist Richard Mueller, ''Technology Review'', 2004.</ref> reconstruction of the [[Earth]]'s [[atmosphere]] temperature created by [[Michael Mann]] from various proxies such as tree rings, superimposed on the record of thermometer readings from ground-based weather stations. It was used to justify the [[anthropogenic global warming theory]] (AGW), but the fraud was exposed by two Canadian statistics experts.

Mann's graph, which was shaped like a hockey stick, portrayed temperatures as steadily declining since medieval times and then sharply rising in the last century and a half. Notably, his reconstruction fueled claims that 1998 and following years had the highest temperatures in 1,000 years.

Since this was obviously false, many scientists protested. However, Mann initially refused to reveal any of his data or methods - even though his work was supported by the U.S. government - which made it exceedingly difficult for other scientists to replicate his work.
*In the case of the Mann et al [1998,1999] study, used for the IPCC's 'hockey stick' graph, Mann was initially unable to remember where the data was located, then provided inaccurate data, then provided a new version of the data which was inconsistent with previously published material, etc. The ''National Post'' has recently reported on my experience as this unfolded. [http://www.climateaudit.org/index.php?p=66]

Eventually, McIntyre and McKitrick learned enough about Mann's data and methods to discover where he went wrong. But the political climate was such that it was very difficult for the correct information to find a publisher.

The proxy estimates go back 1,000 years, while the thermometer readings date from 1850.

The UN climate panel ([[IPCC]]) decided to stop using the traditionally accepted proxy estimates, which had shown a distinct (and naturally caused) [[Medieval Warm Period]] followed by a [[Little Ice Age]]. Without giving any reason for this change, they elevated recent PhD grantee [[Michael Mann]] (based at the highly liberal [[University of Massachusetts - Amherst]]) to a lead author of one of their assessments.

==References==
<references/>

==See also==

*[[Peer review]]
*[[Politics of global warming]]

[[category:meteorology]]

Gender-neutral

2009-09-02T17:52:52Z

DaveB7: Refrences, gender-neutral language in Bible translations.

'''Gender-neutral''' terminology is used by [[politically correct]] [[liberals]] in a ploy to efface the natural differences between [[men]] and [[women]]<ref>http://www.bible-researcher.com/inclusive.html#note2</ref><ref>http://www.hbu.edu/hbu/LMarkos_Gender_Neutral.asp?SnID=2</ref>, sometimes with absurd effect. Thus, although in legal texts the word "he" and "his" have been used for centuries to apply to both sexes, political correctness advocates insist on the cumbersome "he or she", "his or her". Sometimes people mistakenly use of "they" (or "their") despite the fact that this usage is grammatically incorrect. They also try to abolish terms as [[police]]man, [[fireman]], [[postman]], [[chairman]], [[actress]] and [[waitress]], claiming they are sexist terms. Use of gender-neutral language is a hallmark of overly [[liberal]] translations of the [[Bible]].

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Dictionary]]

Mobocracy

2009-09-02T17:46:43Z

DaveB7: Added ref

'''Mobocracy''' is a synonym for ''ochlocracy'', the rule by a group of [[people]] unrestrained by any meaningful principles. A mobocracy has a tendency to be arbitrary and to engage in [[bully]]ing towards critics or dissenters. Wiki's and other online communities tend towards mobocracy if strong measures aren't taken to prevent this. Many conservatives feel that [[Wikipedia]] takes inadequate measures. <ref>http://blog.hackingcough.com/2007/03/on-wikipedia-no.htm</ref>

==References==
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[[category:Forms of Government]]

My Girl

2009-09-02T17:43:12Z

DaveB7: Mentioned that it's a film

'''''My Girl''''', a 1991 film, introduces Annette Chlumsky as Vada, a precocious 11-year-old girl who can't get any normal adult attention from Harry, her widowed undertaker father ([[Dan Akroyd]]) or her grandmother who doesn't respond to anyone. She refuses to play with girls her own age, preferring the company of boys or unrelated adults. In the opening act of the movie, she fakes being sick (see [[hypochondriac]]) and teases some little boys of her acquaintance by pretending her grandmother is a not-quite-dead corpse. She gets more attention from her father's assistant.

Shelly, an attractive divorcee, starts working for her father as a makeup artist and takes an interest in Vada. Shortly after being refused $35 from her father to take a creative writing class, Vada is invited to Shelley's camper, where she discovers a cookie jar full of money. In the next scene, she has enrolled in a creative writing class taught by the schoolteacher she has a crush on. Shelly and Harry go out to play bingo, watched by Vada; afterwards, they share a romantic moment. At the Fourth of July picnic, her ex-husband shows up to claim the camper; Harry slugs him and threatens him.

When she notices that Shelly is wearing a new ring, her father announces they are engaged to be married before the end of the summer. Vada runs away with Thomas ([[Macaulay Culkin]]) for all of one day. The next morning, she screams because she hemorrhaging and believes herself to be pregnant. Shelly has [[birds and the bees|"the talk"]] with her, and strangely they bond over this. Not long after her father's first kiss in 20 years (with Shelly), Vada kisses Thomas.

Tragedy strikes when Thomas returns to the bees' nest the two had knocked down near the lake. He finds the mood ring she had lost (always black), but when he prods the beehive they swarm out and overcome him (he dies of allergic reaction). Vada is overcome with grief, makes a scene at funeral and runs over to her teacher's house. "I love you the way Shelly loves my father." The teacher introduces his fiancee, which upsets Vada further.

The happy ending comes when Vada expresses her sadness in poetry and finally makes friends with a little girl her age. Shelly has been the catalyst in all this.

==''My Girl 2''==

In the sequel, with most of the same cast, Vada takes on a challenging school assignment to research the life of a person who accomplished something admirable, but whom she's never met. She flies to Los Angeles to learn about her mother, who died two days after giving birth to her. She's picked up at the airport by Nick, sent by her Uncle Phil. Unlike ''My Girl'', which may have been intended as a romantic comedy, the sequel has some funny lines.

Vada: "You're Nick's mother?"
Rose, who works at Uncle Phil's car repair shop: "Did you think he was raised by wolves? Don't be misled by the haircut."

Nick goes with Vada to find her mother's high school, but it had closed after a fire. They find her yearbook in a book warehouse and visit her old classmates. Sgt. Tanaka is a cop, who reveals Vada's mother was suspended 2 weeks for smoking. [[Ben Stein]] plays a wedding photographer who had a crush on Vada's mother. They visit an aging poet who doesn't remember Maggie and tells Vada people don't read poetry but watch television ("Don't be a poet; be a TV repairman.") Saddened at finding nothing substantial about her mother from these people, Vada is taken by Nick to La Brea tar pits to cheer her up ("at least I'm not extinct like they are", he quips). He tries on her ring and teases her by pretending to drop her treasured reminder of her dead best friend, who was a boy if not a boyfriend.

At last she tracks down the man who had married her mother before she was born; no, he's not her real father, but he did have great home movies of her beautiful mother and a great story about how they went to New York to become actors and got married outside a French restaurant. Finally Vada discovers that her mother's greatest accomplishment was giving birth to her.

==Recommendations==

Each movie is likely to be of interest to 11-13 year old girls.
[[category:Movies]]

Time (album)

2009-09-02T17:35:37Z

DaveB7: Added release year.

'''Time''' is the third studio album released by [[Third Day]]. It was released in 1999. <ref>http://www.thirdday.com/timeline/99.htm </ref>

== '''Songs''' ==
# ''I've Always Loved You''
# ''Believe''
# ''Took My Place''
# ''Never Bow Down''
# ''Your Love Oh Lord''
# ''Don't Say Goodbye''
# ''What Good''
# ''Can't Take the Pain''
# ''Sky Falls Down''
# ''Give''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Albums]]

Intermarriage

2009-09-02T17:32:50Z

DaveB7: Clarified "intermarriage" can refer to non-religion demographic differences, added biblical, historical view.

'''Intermarriage''' means the [[bride]] and [[groom]] are from different demographic groups, such as religion or ethnic background. Historically, intermarriage was considered unacceptable in many places, but it is increasingly accepted today.

One common intermarriage situation is a marriage between two people of different religions or faiths, a practice that is condemned for Christians in the [[Bible]]. The Bible does not forbid interracial marriage or marrying outside of one's own culture. In the United States at present [[Buddhism|Buddists]] and the religiously unaffiliated are the most likely to marry outside their own faith, while [[Mormon]]s and [[Hinduism|Hindus]] are the least likely.

[[File:Intermarry.gif]]

====references====
<references/>
1. For mainline Protestants, evangelical Protestants and historically black Protestants, this category includes marriages and partnerships between people from different Protestant denominational families (e.g., a Methodist married to a Lutheran).

Source: Pew Forum U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, [http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1244/marriage-religious-faith] conducted in 2007 and released in 2008. Based on respondents who say they are married and respondents who say they are living with a partner. Results for other religious groups are not reported due to small sample sizes. Due to rounding, figures may not add to 100.

[[category:demography]]
[[Category:Ethnicities]]
[[Category:Marriage]]

Liberal arrogance

2009-07-07T20:28:25Z

DaveB7: Switched categories from "liberals" to "liberalism".

'''Liberal arrogance''' is the tendency of [[liberals]], in their unwarranted [[pride]], to make presumptuous assumptions. They are often forced to later backpedal on their statements.

== Examples of liberal arrogance ==
* During the 2000 election cycle, many liberal members of the mainstream media called the election for [[Democrat]] [[Al Gore]] before all the votes were counted. <ref>Angry Democrats: Florida and Beyond [http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/rbartley/?id=110004015]</ref>
* During the 2008 election cycle, various liberal media outlets made statements that seemed to imply that the election of Obama was inevitable weeks in advance, when in reality it was very much in doubt.
* [[Brokeback Mountain]], a 2005 [[film]] which became a liberal darling for its advancement of the [[homosexual agenda]], was considered a shoe-in for the [[Academy Award]] for Best Picture. It lost to [[Crash (film)|Crash]]. <ref>Bitter Boulevard [http://media.www.theeastcarolinian.com/media/storage/paper915/news/2006/01/18/Opinion/Bitter.Boulevard-2211050.shtml]</ref>
* The [[DNC]] advanced [[Barack Obama]] as a presidential candidate in 2008, confident that they would be able to conceal potentially devastating information about his faith and the location of his birth.
* [[Environmentalists]], confident that they would be vindicated by [[science]], insisted that [[global warming]] was an established fact. Global warming as a theory has now been thoroughly discredited. <ref>June 2009 Global Temperature Anomaly Update [http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/07/june-2009-global-temperature-anomaly-update-000-deg-c/]</ref>
* The [[archaeoraptor]] incident, where evolutionists eager for evidence for their theory fell for a simple hoax.

== References ==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:liberalism]]

Liberal arrogance

2009-07-07T20:27:26Z

DaveB7: Arhcaeoraptor, category

Grasshopper

2009-07-07T04:49:55Z

DaveB7: Spelling and evolutionist bias

'''Grasshoppers''' are terrestrial [[herbivore|plant-eating]] [[insect]]s of the order orthoptera. They have powerful hind legs adapted for leaping. They are classified as similar to [[cricket (insect)|cricket]]s. Some grasshoppers are considered [[pest]]s, such as [[locust]]s.

[[Category:Insects]]

User talk:RJJensen

2009-07-07T03:31:08Z

DaveB7: Undo revision 681609 by DaveB7 (Talk) Karajou beat us to it. :)

[[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 4 September 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for your fascinating addition to [[Barack Obama]] re: financing. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:26, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

== Welcome ==
Welcome indeed to CP! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:18, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
::hey thanks! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:25, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

==China==
Chinese history would appear not to be your forte. How describing the fluctuating state of authority in the warlord period counts as 'red propaganda', I am at a loss to understand. Please don't cause damage to other Chinese history articles. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:03, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
:: Ah but I am fairly familiar with 20c Chinese history. the article was full of Red propaganda (not that particular example)--which is bad for a conservative encyclopedia. for examples:
#the very title, and many of the pinyin terms, are the ones created in the 1950s by Communists in Beijing, and not used at the time or by the anti-communists in Taiwan.
#" However, Chiang was aided by the 'Guangxi Clique' of nationally-minded warlords; and the northern progress of the expedition was aided by carefully-timed popular uprisings planned by the CCP against local warlords."
#" Chiang again turned on the communists in the 'Shanghai Coup'. Aided by the police of the International Settlement and the French Concession in the city, and by gunmen of the influential 'Green Gang' criminal network, Chiang's troops and police rounded up and executed hundred of communists and trade unionists"
# "that to build a strong China it was necessary to defeat communism first, to an increasing number of Chinese his attitude appeared capitulationist and unpatriotic."
[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:13, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

All those are established facts, however unpalatable some of them may be. At Conservapedia we deal in truth, not propaganda. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:16, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

In addition, it is a very bad idea to build up Chiang as a conservative ideal type. He was - to put it mildly - an unsavoury and unscrupulous thug, who was portrayed as a democratic leader in the west for the sake of wartime unity, and wwas later loyal to the US as he had no choice but to be so. He was the very opposite of loyal at other stages of his career: vide his flirtation with [[Nazism]], and his cavalier treatment of General Stilwell. In terms of opersonal morality, well.... suffice to say that his avowal of Christianity was purely opportunistic; he presided over a regime of brutality and corruption that alienated all potential allies; he was the sort of man who actually made Communism look like a desirable alternative. How bad do you have to be to do that? [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:22, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

::- ::No, you have to read some of the history. I actually worked through the books in the bibliography. For example, who cliams " to an increasing number of Chinese his attitude appeared capitulationist and unpatriotic." (answer: the far left). The story of the Nanchang uprising ("carefully-timed popular uprisings planned" is from Communist folklore as told to Edgar Snow in "Red Star over China", a notorous far-left book. As for Chiang's character, it is NOT white washed here. He was a rough character and I do not call him democratic. As for Stillwell, I think Chiang and Chennault were mostly right and Stillwell mostly wrong. (My articles on Stillwell and Chennault are coming soon--they are now both at Citizensium--take a look also atmy CBI article there. I have read the major studies for China in the 1940s.). Corruption--alas that is the history of China for the last 150 years, continuously (for example, don't feed your baby on Chinese formula--or feed your cat with their stuff. That is 2008 corrpution.
:::I too know a bit about that period - the Americans backed a loser in Chiang; and the real blame for the fall of China to communism lies with him - not with Service or Lattimore or any of the other John Birch Society bugaboos. Chiang was a late era warlord who used the KMT as a personal vehicle, and whose corruption and nepotism ruined the infant republic. There were better warlords for the west to have dealt with - Yan Xishan at least would have kept his hands out of the till - or Li Zongren. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:42, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
::::well everyone to his own warlord. Fact is Chiang came to power in 1920s and remained so to 1940 with zero American help. I think we agree the US policy to support China in order to defeat Japan was a fiasco (this was Stillwell's idea.) --More on this in my WW2 articles to come. I did not drop the conspiracy interpretation of the late 1940s which was in the article for a months or years.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:46, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
:::::''well everyone to his own warlord'' hehe - I once attended a lecture by Jack Gray who was an ardent fan of Wu Peifu. I think his argument was that because he had no fixed territorial power base, this showed not that he had drawn the short straw geographically, but that it meant he was a truly 'national' leader rather than all those regionalist cliques, Zhang Zuolin in Manchuria, Feng in the north-west, etc. I thought it a dubious argument then and still do. But anyway... Chiang held power from the 20s to the 40s, but he certainly relied on Communist help both in 1925-27 (and he was plotted against as much as plotting, I have no doubt), and at the Xian incident. If the Young Marshal had had him put up against a wall, and seized power for himself, rather than bottling it.... [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:56, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
:::the happy fact (not yet in the article) is that he created a regime on Taiwan with far less corruption and it historically led to a pro-US nation with capitalism and democracy. As for Christianity, the issue was active persecution of the missionaries. Chiang's highly public conversion helped change the status of Christians and reduced the persecution they sufferedin 1930s. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:54, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

== Latino ==

Could we please talk about it before reverting? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 21:32, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
::Yes indeed--I have explained my edits. I fixed a several little grammar issues, enlarged the map to make it legible, expanded the caption. We don't want to illustrate a U.S. article with a Mexican coach in Spain. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:35, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

::: The image shows a latino, beening in the US or not he is a latino; it is illustrating the very first part of the article. It also shows that not all latinos are illegals or land workers. This is enough to have a place there. The map is much better where it was before according to the subject. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 21:43, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
:::::get a better image. This person is a Mexican living in Spain. The map was to small to figure out. The article makes it very clear that only a minority of latinos are illegal[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:45, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

We use to lock the articles while in the Main Page. If you need to edit it, please let me know. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 07:00, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
::OK, no problem. I won't be working on it for a while. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:06, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

== Warning ==

Please be more accurate in your edit summaries of "minor" edits. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 02:18, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
::sorry about that. I tried to change categories (Bryan was never a jurist) and the result was a bizarre edit I did not intend. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 09:40, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

== Newton ==

Hi, your calculus section in the [[Isaac Newton]] article had some conceptual errors in it -- I've rewritten the mathematics of this section appropriately. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 04:17, 3 November 2008 (EST)
::very nice job--thanks! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:25, 3 November 2008 (EST)

==National Socialist German Workers Party==

Just to let you know, I'm not interested in getting into an edit war here, but the listing of the Allies led by the US, Russia and Britain is inaccurate. The term Allies (for WWII) applies to all the countries that opposed the Axis powers, and that list included 21 countries or blocs before the US joined in 1941. Obviously the effort of the Allies had to be co-ordinated in the years between 1939-41 so the question of who led the Allies during WWII is, at best, not something that can be easily dispensed with a single sentence. Furthermore, saying that Russia was an member of the Allies is inaccurate, it was the USSR which was a member of the Allies, of which Russia was a part (an equivalent example would be if the sentence had read that .....by the Allies, led by Texas, Russia and Britain).

As a compromise I suggest: ......and was finally destroyed in [[World War II]] by the Allies, the major powers of which were the United States who led the Allied forces in Europe from 1941, the USSR (more commonly known as the Soviet Union) and Britain. [[User:Ieuan|Ieuan]] 22:03, 3/Nov/08 (GMT)
::the US joined the fighting in 1941 but had already been financing the war for both Britain and USSR, and was providing much of the munitions. Leadership also consists in setting strategy and policy which the US did--maybe 95% in the case of the war against Japan, 75% against Italy and say 40% in the case of Europe. As for the Soviets, they were Hitler's allies until June of 1941. You are right that USSR/Soviet is a better term than Russia. The debate should be on the article talk page, not here. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:42, 3 November 2008 (EST)

Copied the debate over to the talk page.

== ''Germania'' ==

I loved to read your article on the German Americans. Thanks for posting it! --[[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 15:49, 5 November 2008 (EST)
::hey thanks! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:53, 5 November 2008 (EST)

== Roosevelt ==

Why are you deleting sourced material from this article? Remember that the removal of relevant, sourced material from Conservapedia is considered vandalism. Please do not try to insert your own [[opinion]] into articles by censoring [[facts]]. --[[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]] 14:05, 6 November 2008 (EST)
::the article is supposed to be about FDR and introducing red herrings hurts students. CZ rules clearly state: "Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here." [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:18, 6 November 2008 (EST)

==[[Holocaust]] article==
The additions you placed in there now make that article repetative; things are said twice. It needs to be fixed so it runs smoothly. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:57, 10 November 2008 (EST)
::you're right and I will try to smooth it out. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 13:59, 10 November 2008 (EST)

== Category Military history ==

Thank you for your work on the project. When we create categories we use capitalization so the category should be Military History. I would also recommend that if you do feel that category is important, that it covers a specifically defined area. Perhaps it should probably deal with overlying changes in tactics or doctrine that has guided military functioning that has had a profound impact. I would not use it for things like Wars or Battles which already have their own categories.

Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:32, 15 November 2008 (EST)
::thanks for the tip. I think the demand for article on military history is enormous--look at the very heavy emphasis at Borders and Barnes and Noble, for example. My college courses on military history attracted far more students than other history topics. Of course a specific topic may well overlap several categories. People will want to use our category pages as an index to what is available here. Discussions of tactics, strategy, technology and doctrine, for example, are often included in articles on specific wars. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:41, 15 November 2008 (EST)

== First Black President ==

Hello, please do not censor correct information in the [[First Black president]] article. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 10:49, 19 November 2008 (EST)
::what information was correct? it did not check out. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:04, 19 November 2008 (EST)

I notice you are a controversial editor who has never geneflected before Mr. Schlafly, and neither have you praised his wisdom and judgement in his fascinating revelation that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim. Are you a Muslim sir? [[User:MarkBaley|MarkBaley]] 22:57, 20 November 2008 (EST)
::well actually more of a Catholic (a graduate of Notre Dame University class of 1962).[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:01, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Are you more like Barack Obama, a [[Liberal]] who lies about his religion, and then subverts the office of the United States, and then deceives the American people and then institutes an Islamic Caliphate, giving control of our nuclear arsenal to Iran and Bin Laden? If this is what you are, then we are better off without you. [[User:MarkBaley|MarkBaley]] 23:05, 20 November 2008 (EST)
::well no--but I was hoping Biden would be president--as a Catholic he will bring the Pope over to straighten us all aout. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:12, 20 November 2008 (EST)

I would rather the pope as my slavemaster than Bin Laden! Obama will, any day now I'm sure, give the nuclear launch codes to all of our enemies - Bin Laden, Iran, Satan, Green Goblin, France - and introduce an Islamic Caliphate to our great and glorious nation! Heel before the almighty Schlafly, only his logic and truth can save the world from the dark precipice it has gotten itself under! Only the bright and free can be saved! [[User:MarkBaley|MarkBaley]] 23:16, 20 November 2008 (EST)

==English and UK categories==

Question for you at [[Talk:William the Conqueror]] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 08:26, 21 November 2008 (EST)

*Thanks for meeting me there, and now a question on ...

==World War II fatalities==

Thank for [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Japan&curid=11154&diff=564889&oldid=555832&rcid=615850 this addition]. I had simply assumed that every Japanes soldier who died in WWII was directly killed by the US and its allies. Except maybe an insignificant number of accidents - oh, and the suicidal heroics of the [[Kamikaze]].

If a soldier dies from starvation, I'd lay that death at the feet of the man who sent him out. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 10:01, 21 November 2008 (EST)
::I was also surprised at the numbers. I knew about the starvation on the isolated Pacific islands but was surprised at China numbers. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:10, 21 November 2008 (EST)

== Shays' Rebellion ==

I wander why the ''Block quote'' was deleted? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:19, 25 November 2008 (EST)
::it was too vague and did not add information to what was already covered regarding the impact of Shays' on the government. It took a left-wing approach that did not help any. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:28, 25 November 2008 (EST)

== The so-called Progressive Era? ==

*Sorry for removing a category you only created today, but CP likes to not make stand-alone narrow cats. Somehow we need an over-arching category to easily facilitate searches, and not just one per person. It might be easier to discuss adding categories somewhere, rather than just doing it.....or at least leaving a trail of bread crumbs for the less historically blessed to follow! :-D --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 23:57, 30 November 2008 (EST)
::I agree. We need a page on CP where technical issues can be discussed and conventions established. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:14, 1 December 2008 (EST)

== Additional privileges ==

Congratulations, you've earned the additional privileges of 24-hour editing, uploading images, and blocking others. Well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:53, 1 December 2008 (EST)
::hey thanks--I appreciate that! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:55, 1 December 2008 (EST)
:::Congrats. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 16:01, 1 December 2008 (EST)
::::Congratulations from me too. Well deserved! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 05:41, 2 December 2008 (EST)

==Oz pic==
Just uploaded it for the article: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Woz_movie.jpg] [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:12, 4 December 2008 (EST)
::thanks--the visuals are great. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 03:21, 5 December 2008 (EST)

== [[Barry Goldwater]] ==

I see some recent stretching to include people like Goldwater as libertarians. You are too good a historian to muddle the waters with throw-away lines such as "many of his later views were libertarian". Yes? So? Many of his views would, today, be considered near leftist as well. ''Historians need to resist revisionism''. In his time, by his own definition, Goldwater rejected libertarianism, and self-branded himself a conservative. Goldwater did not believe in abortion as a substitute for abstaining or birth control, nor did he support "abortion on demand". Many views held by even Ted Kennedy could be considered "conservative", but that hardly gives license to brand him one, or make the statement "some of his views are conservative", that would be misleading, IMO. --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 16:55, 5 December 2008 (EST)
:well I knew Goldater personally since 1958 and followed his career very closely. After 1980 or so he was libertarian on most social issues, while remaining conservative on defense and spending issues. In his heyday as a conservative leader (1960-64) he rarely mentioned social issues and they were seldom on the agenda. Here is what Bill Buckley said of Goldwater:
<blockquote>
''Conspicuous here was his defense of Supreme Court decisions involving abortion, gay rights, and the separation of church and state. Most followers of the senator were surprised, and abashed, especially at his defense of abortion.''[http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/wfb200412101327.asp from National RreviewDec10, 2004]</blockquote>
[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:01, 5 December 2008 (EST)

::*Ditto for me. My family were neighbors at the Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, CA, for several decades. But this is straw snatching, trying to paint the man as a libertarian, by a few high-profile pronouncements later in life, to somehow add cred to the libertarian cause. Find your own hero's, but kindly do not snatch our conservative ones! I do not disagree with showing, with cites, his later libertarian views (many of which I agreed with), but putting him, and others, with the help of another libertarian editor, into the libertarian category, and implying some "conversion" isn't being honest. --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 17:19, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::Conversion? well, I think Barry was always a libertarian but only became outspoken about it in the 1980s when social issues got high on the political agenda. When he was a leader of the conservative movement (1958-64) he rarely mentioned social issues of any kind--he never mentioned abortion, for example. (he did mention gays in 1964 in the Walter Jenkins scandal--a top LBJ aide was arrested during the election campaign-- but did not condemn it.) His libertarianism after 1980 was not a "few" statements it was his high profile fight to get O'Connor on the Supreme Court. He was at that time a very powerful Senator and his views are quite important. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:42, 5 December 2008 (EST)

::*We mostly agree. Just please don't go adding him to the libertarian category, or make it seem he was not a conservative. We are obviously near-contemporary, and no doubt share the acquaintanceship/friendship of many, it seems. However to use your friendship and personal assumptions as to what he was, absent of his repudiating being a conservative, is wrong and purely anecdotal. That is my only objection. --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 17:48, 5 December 2008 (EST)
:::I'm glad we agree. I was not the one who added the libertarian category. But he publicly announced his positions and angered a lot of Arizona conservatives by so doing. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:52, 5 December 2008 (EST)

:::::I well remember! We should have a libation one day and swap old stories. --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 17:58, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::::::I'll drink to that. I left Arizona this summer and we moved to Montana, but there's a bar and a casino on every corner here. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 18:01, 5 December 2008 (EST)

== [[French Revolution]] ==
Hey, I noticed you're doing a bit of work around this area, and as you seem to be the resident historian, I thought I'd volunteer my services here, so you're free to do other area's that need some touching up or expanding. If there's any articles or stubs in the French Revolution section that need to be fixed, just let me know. Thanks [[User:Bolly|Bolly]] 21:54, 8 December 2008 (EST)
::GREAT! we can use short articles on the major players and events. Suggestion use the facts from the online Columbia Encyclopedia at [http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/sitesearch?FILTER=col65&query=French+Revolution&x=0&y=0 Columbia Enyc srticles on French Rev.] -- it's very good. Be sure to summarize & rewrite the facts, not quote exactly. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:02, 8 December 2008 (EST)

:::OK I'll get right onto it. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:Bolly|Bolly]] 22:05, 8 December 2008 (EST)

==Medieval Cats==
As the person who has probably edited more articles on medieval history in the last few months than all other editors put together (including six pages in the last hour or two, if I had been told that there was a new category for "Medieval history" I could have saved you a heckova lotta work.:) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 16:56, 26 December 2008 (EST)
::you're doing a great job and I've been trying to clean up all sorts of categories. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:58, 26 December 2008 (EST)
:::But are there any others I should know about? You see, on the 22nd I changed the cats of about 2 dozen English/British history entries. This new one could have been done at the same time. (And - just to let ''you'' know: I am thinking of starting a cat (sub-cat, whatever) for the "Wars of the Roses"....)[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 17:16, 26 December 2008 (EST)
::::what I did was go though all the articles in Category:European History and change the specific ones to specific countries, or eras. That cleans up European History and makes the other sub categories more useful. yes' War of Roses" car would be good idea [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:44, 26 December 2008 (EST)

== Invitation to join Wikiproject:News ==

RJJensen, since you have contributed a wanted page in the past, you are invited to [[Wikiproject:News#Members|sign up]] as a member of [[Wikiproject:News]]. <nowiki>[[Wikiproject:News/Guidelines|Review]]</nowiki> the Guidelines. Make your news suggestions <nowiki>[[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions|here]]</nowiki>. Add wanted pages [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted_page#Wanted_Pages_for_.22In_the_news.22_section_-_To_be_created|here]]. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 10:04, 28 December 2008 (EST)
::thanks for the invite; i just signed up. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:07, 28 December 2008 (EST)

==Dutch History==
RJ (if I may call you that), I see that you have replaced the material on Dutch fascism in the 1930s. I'm pleased that this was done under a separate heading, but I am still concerned that this gives a misleading impression of Dutch politics at the time (an analogy might be an assessment of American politics in the 1930s which only mentioned Charles Coughlin and the German 'Bund'). Would it be possible for you to give an overview of mainstream Dutch politics at this time, as even the NSB was a fringe organisation. As it stands, the article presents the Netherlands as a quasi-fascist nation. As the grandson of a Dutch patriot active in the resistance in the war years, this is extremely hurtful. I also altered the reference to liberation by Canadian troops to one recognising the role of all the allied forces - including my father, in the British Army. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 08:50, 31 December 2008 (EST)
::Thanks for the note. My intention all along is to emphasize the fascists were a fringe group. I'll rework it again to make that clear and give more emphasis to what the main parties were up to (following the Kossman book).[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 09:48, 31 December 2008 (EST)
:::Thank you very much. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:37, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== Happy New Year! ==

{{cquote|'''Cheers to a new year and another chance for us to get it right!'''--Oprah Winfrey}}
--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 23:24, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== Congratulations! ==

Congratulations on your promotion to Sysop (Admin) status! This gives you many new privileges. Well deserved!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 23:42, 31 December 2008 (EST)

:Indeed! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 00:12, 1 January 2009 (EST)
Congrats RJJensen. I look forward to working with you this year. Now you can protect all the great images you upload. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:31, 1 January 2009 (EST)
::hey THANKS EVERYBODY--I promise that 2009 will be better than 2008. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 04:10, 1 January 2009 (EST)
:::Well done RJJensen, you have been a prodigious contributor here and the promotion is deserved. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 05:47, 1 January 2009 (EST)
::::and many congratulations (and happy new year!) from me too. I look forward to working even closer with you this year. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']] 06:23, 1 January 2009 (EST)

::::: Congratulations! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 09:05, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Congrats and Happy New year! [[User:AddisonDM]]

::::: Happy New Year!

:::::: Congratulations on your promotion! --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 13:13, 4 January 2009 (EST)

==Tuskegee==
They were real. Can I suggest an undelete minus the parody?--Jpatt 20:41, 5 January 2009 (EST)
::they were indeed real. They did not fight the Japanese. Booker T Washington died many years before. The article has to be redone from start, since all the "facts" in this version are now suspect. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:57, 5 January 2009 (EST)
::: Following Jpatt's suggestion, I wrote a new article. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:49, 5 January 2009 (EST)
::::Looks fantastic--Jpatt 23:13, 5 January 2009 (EST)
:::::thanks :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:53, 5 January 2009 (EST)

==US Civil War==

Thanks for your massive additions (like [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=American_Civil_War_homefront&curid=84224&diff=603647&oldid=603640 this one]). How do you find the time to do so much writing? --
::hey THANKS. It's retirement --I used to spend all that good time in committees. Now I just write. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:55, 6 January 2009 (EST)

== Protecting images ==

I protected a number of images you uploaded (Image:Sherman2.jpg, Image:Weyrich.jpg, Image:1900HA.jpg, Image:~HANNA96.jpg). Please remember our policy of protecting all images. Thanks for your contributions to Conservpedia. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 11:42, 9 January 2009 (EST)
::thanks--I'll keep protecting them. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 03:19, 11 January 2009 (EST)

::: Thanks much for your insights. I've learned tremendously from them. However, as Dean says, it would be great if you could click "protect" at the bottom after you upload a new image, and then click on "Administrators Only" to give them the greatest protection. I just did that for your two most recent uploads. Thanks again.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:21, 12 January 2009 (EST)

== Third Party v Third Party System ==

Your opinion is sought! [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Third_Party_System#Merge.3F] --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 23:01, 13 January 2009 (EST)

== Democratic Governors category ==
There is already a [[:Category:Democrat Governors]]. If you are planning a move from that category to the new one, then please disregard this message. Otherwise, I wanted to catch you before you got halfway through. [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|Hello!]] 20:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)
::OK --it was my mistake (I have been trying to repair lost edits from the last week). [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:56, 29 January 2009 (EST)
:::Yeah, me too. I lost about 300 edits, including the lists of governors you were kind enough to add bibliologs to. [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|Hello!]] 11:36, 29 January 2009 (EST)

== Blago ==

I understand what your thinking is, RJ, but in this case you are too idealogical, and giving the liberals far too much credit. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 23:52, 29 January 2009 (EST)
::when we make serious allegations they have to be based on serious evidence or we are guilty of bearing false witness. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:50, 30 January 2009 (EST)

:::No,we are using plain old conservative common sense, RJ. The legislature didn't have evidence of anything, and until the United States Attorney presents his case in a Federal Court, and a jury convicts him, the will of the people should never be overturned by some legislature, based solely upon some contrived "disability" of being unpopular, having low poll numbers. If you don't want to cooperate, and accept the ruling of a senior administrator, so be it. But Mr. Schlafly has made his position crystal clear on this. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 01:14, 30 January 2009 (EST)
::::The rule throughout American history is that the legislature can impeach the executive for any reason. Conviction for crime is not necessary. What is the "will of the people"? The Founding Fathers were pretty clear that the will of the people resided in the legislature. My discussion with Schlafly was on an different issue; it had to do with the powers of the state supreme court to intervene (that is a moot question since it did not intervene).

== Economic Recovery Advisory Board ==

Is this an article you want to tackle, or perhaps have research or ancillary information on? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 03:51, 7 February 2009 (EST)

:good idea. I just wrote [[Economic Recovery Advisory Board]]. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:50, 13 February 2009 (EST)

::Super! And I was just being nice making sure you could log in, never thinking once about this article I knew was needed....;-) Glad it worked out. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 01:27, 13 February 2009 (EST)

==Velikovsky==
Richard, I left a question for you on the [[Talk:Immanuel_Velikovsky|Velikovsky talk page]], regarding category tags. --[[User:Eric2009|Eric2009]] 08:36, 10 February 2009 (EST)

:I left another comment regarding yours, on the [[Talk:Immanuel_Velikovsky|Velikovsky talk page]], --[[User:Eric2009|Eric2009]] 12:25, 14 February 2009 (EST)

== Your edits to [[Scopes trial]] ==

Dr. Jensen, your recent edits to the [[Scopes trial]] delete important information and introduce unjustified statements, like calling the [[atheist]] and stridently anti-Christian [[H.L. Mencken]] a "cultural conservative." We can discuss further on [[Talk:Scopes trial]] if you like.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 08:40, 14 February 2009 (EST)
::Mencken is one of the most famous names in the history of American conservatism. He ignored the religious questions and ridiculed the backwoods types. That's true and important to know. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:42, 14 February 2009 (EST)

::: Mencken was one of worst anti-Christian bigots ever. It's indisputable and completely distorted his reporting on the Scopes trial. And it wasn't just Christians whom Mencken was bigoted against.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:01, 14 February 2009 (EST)
:::: all true enough but he was a cultural conservative and strongly influenced libertarian thinking against government--and many people's ridicule of the South. Bryan of course was the leading big government liberal of the 1890-1930 era, which made him Mencken's target.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:28, 14 February 2009 (EST)

This really should be discussed on the article's talk page, where I've just added my comments. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:15, 15 February 2009 (EST)

== Category: Naval Battles ==

I don't think that Horatio Nelson belongs in that category. He is an admiral, not a battle. [[User:DuncanB|Duncan]][[User talk:DuncanB|Channel 16]] 15:34, 16 February 2009 (EST)
::the article is what gets categorized, and the article talks about naval battles in an important way.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:35, 16 February 2009 (EST)

I am trying to figure out why Trafalgar didn't make it into [[:Category:Naval Battles]], at least not when I click on it.. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 16:36, 16 February 2009 (EST)
::well it certainly belongs! please add it. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:37, 16 February 2009 (EST)
:::What I was getting at was that although you had changed the cat to "Naval Battles", for some reason it wasn't showing up on the Cat. page. I deleted it on the Article then added it and it has now come up. A mystery. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 16:49, 16 February 2009 (EST)
:;::good job! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:12, 16 February 2009 (EST)

==Vandalism patrol==

RJ, thanks for your recent efforts to block vandals and undo their damage. I don't know why some people enjoy messing up other people's work. Maybe they are intellectually lazy. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 18:16, 17 February 2009 (EST)
::well at least we attact a better class of vandals than Wikipedia! :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 18:28, 17 February 2009 (EST)

:::LOL, I think. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:09, 18 February 2009 (EST)

==Criminals and folk heroes==

What about that [[Che Guevera]] guy? Why is it that people who say they care about the poor and the oppressed lionize (idolize, idealize) murderers like Che? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:14, 18 February 2009 (EST)

== Cartoon ==

That pork factory thingy is a nice cartoon, but I'm not sure about the "fair use". Wouldn't "fair use" be if we put the image in an article ''about the cartoon itself'', or in an article about a controversy caused by the image?

From the copyright office's website:

<blockquote>
“quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author's observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”
</blockquote>

I'm worried this might get the site into hot water.

Sincerely,
[[User:EMaurice|EMaurice]] 11:24, 19 February 2009 (EST)
::no educational use has ever gotten into any legal hot water by using items like this that have been posted on the internet for free. CP uses the cartoon to comment upon a current news event, which is a legally protected form of fair use according to Congress. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 11:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)

:::I'm not sure that the fact that no-one has been prosecuted for it means it's legal. If we go down that road, we'll be just like the bums who get into debt and then ask the taxpayer to help them, claiming they didn't know what they were doing. And as for using the cartoon to comment, how is that under fair use? Fair use would be for commenting about the cartoon itself. Every big newspaper has a free online section. Would the Washington Post accept the Washington Times copying one of their cartoonists? Do you see what I mean? Thanks, [[User:EMaurice|EMaurice]] 11:46, 19 February 2009 (EST)
::::Congress says that fair use applies to nonprofit educational use, and the courts have always agreed. The Washington Times is a commercial operation and different rules apply to them. (The worst case scenario is that the copyright owner asks us to remove the cartoon, and we do so.) Conservatives need to uphold their legal and constutional rights or they lose them. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:37, 19 February 2009 (EST)

== Parodists ==
It would seem we have two users in need of a lengthy block, and you appear to be the only one present with block rights. See Ed Poor's talk page please! [[User:ETrundel|ETrundel]] 12:15, 21 February 2009 (EST)
::thanks for the heads-up. I'll be watching but so far I have not seen anthing more serious than a debate on chemistry. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:31, 21 February 2009 (EST)
:::The manganese edit was 100% wrong, so he's (KrisTree) a parodist. But everything which he's said about the other guy is actually pretty correct, and GFasten did indeed put up a stupid Bollywood video which was later reverted. [[User:ETrundel|ETrundel]] 12:34, 21 February 2009 (EST)
::::No the manganese edit was not 100% wrong (it is used in steel), and there is such a book as "Salters Chemistry". There may be errors but that is not the same as parody. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:37, 21 February 2009 (EST)

== The View From 1776...Tom Brewton ==

Presented for your inspection and consideration.....

* [http://www.thomasbrewton.com/index.php/weblog/the_limitations_of_econometric_computer_models/ The Limitations of Econometric Computer Models]

* [http://www.thomasbrewton.com/index.php/weblog/tooth_fairy_economics/ TOOTH FAIRY ECONOMICS]
--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 06:42, 22 February 2009 (EST)
::Thanks-- I enjoyed reading that! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:51, 22 February 2009 (EST)

== Gibbs ==

Thank you, good Doctor! Whenever I read something where the basic, minimum essentials are missing, and people are already arguing over rather common political tricks, I see red. Thanks for jumping in, but let's not save the protagonists from having to do some due diligence as well, okay? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 15:39, 3 March 2009 (EST)
::right! :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:13, 3 March 2009 (EST)

== CENTRISTS CONCERNED ==

[http://www.thomasbrewton.com/index.php/weblog/centrists_concerned/] It’s noteworthy that political moderates who supported President Obama in the election are worried that they may have been misled, that traditionalists’ forebodings may have been on the mark. Amazing! ;-) --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 23:31, 6 March 2009 (EST)
::thanks for the tip. I don't see a connection between Obama and the Social Gospel Movement myself, and the Socialists of 1910 (who included just ONE Social Gospeller, an obscure professor at Vassar) wanted to destroy the banks, not subsidize them. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:35, 6 March 2009 (EST)
:::Email Tom...he's a nice chap. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 23:43, 6 March 2009 (EST)

==Pearl Harbor edit==
Had to revert your edit to Pearl Harbor. The Air Force did not exist until 1947; prior to that it was the U.S. Army Air Corps. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 21:02, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
::the name was changed in 1941 -- before Pearl Harbor--to US Army Air Forces. There was no longer an "Air Corps". [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:48, 12 March 2009 (EDT)

== Can you add Obama's ignorant, disgusting joke to the front page news? ==

Joke here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXcgpZwsBPY]. Obama apologist Olbermann's desperate plea to comedian Craig Furgeson(sp?) to find an excuse - any excuse - to allow Obama to get away with the joke here: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0EcujFSn8]. Note that Craig immediately recognizes the joke for what it is and doesn't give the kind of answer Olbermann was hoping for. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 12:15, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

:On the [[Jay Leno]] show, Obama quipped that his bowling score of 129 was "like the [[Special Olympics]] or something". My question was whether he was putting himself down (i.e., being humble) in an innocent, lighthearted way - or whether (as his detractors are eager to say) he was making a derogatory reference to handicapped people. [[Craig Ferguson]] grimaced and called the reference "a misstep". --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 12:43, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:*I read later that he called up the Special Olympics and apologized - even before the show aired. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 23:22, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
:::That's called "damage control." [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 14:38, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

::::Beating him up for a slip like that is called A "[[personal attack]]". I would rather we contributors focus on principles and facts than on personalities. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 14:55, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

==Stimulus bill==

Thank you for continuing to work with me. My text moves are not to be taken as Editorial Prerogative. Feel free to reverse my edits when they don't make sense. What I want to do is collaborate, to work together to improve the article. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:53, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
::Ed--thanks for your stimulus to my thinking! :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:54, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

:::LOL, there's a [[Volvo]] radio ad I've heard dozens of times which talks about "stimulating your stimulus". --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:58, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

==Featured article==
Congrats on getting a weekly featured article! The financial crisis.
[[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 11:22, 22 March 2009 (EDT)
::hey thanks! :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:13, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

==A Glitch?==
This edit [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_Gresham_Machen&diff=644407&oldid=644405] looks like a glitch. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 12:07, 25 March 2009 (EDT)
::yes my "oops" (I was trying to move the reflist). Thanks for the good work--Machen has never looked so good in the last 70 years. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 13:22, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

== World History Lectures ==

I really enjoy your contributions. In fact, reading them drove me to Conservapedia. Couldn't you do some fact-checking on the '''World History Lectures''' of Aschlafly? [[User:ClementB|Clement ♗]] 15:56, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
::thanks for the nice words. I'll keep my eyes open. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:03, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Could you shed some light on [http://conservapedia.com/Talk:World_History_Lecture_Nine#Prussia_vs._Germany this discussion?] Thanks! [[User:ClementB|Clement ♗]] 12:13, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::I suggest the best approach is to propose an improved sentence for the text. think positive. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:21, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks==
I see you've been doing some really good work this past week, and thanks! We need more editing like that. Great job. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 23:03, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::HEY--thanks! :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:04, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

==Attribution==
Please endeavor to give proper attribution for the articles you are taking from Citizendium. A copy of our license is available on the front page of the site. Thank you. [[User:Citizendium|Citizendium]] 15:47, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

*'''He does, and was the original author of the items he has placed here.''' I was unaware, "Citizendium", you are a German encyclopedia, being that is where your ISP is located. Another fraud/troll bites the dust. Bye. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 18:57, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

==Historian?==

Are you really Richard Jensen? I read your midwest book when I was younger (If indeed you are) [[User:JamesFerguson|JamesFerguson]] 16:32, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
::yes. I wrote it when I was 24 years old. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:33, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

==Democrats and casual sex==

Jensen, I noticed that you deleted [[Democrats and casual sex|this article]], citing "inappropriate content". While I certainly find the actions of the Democrats to be inappropriate, I don't find the content of the article to be inappropriate. It was written without going into the lewd details of the online solicitations, but with enough evidence to incriminate the Democrats. Hard data doesn't lie: the Democratic convention had that spike in postings, while the RNC, which happened ''after'' and thus was under more scrutiny, did not have the spike in postings. It's a black and white testament to who actually lives family values, and therefore who has the family values in mind. Democrats may talk all they want about upholding morals, but their actions, ''especially'' those done in secret, tell a completely different story, one replete with [[duplicity]].

Furthermore, I'd argue precedent: this content has been listed in the articles on the [[2008 Democratic National Convention]] for some time. When I created the standalone article, I was pleasantly surprised to find the content had already been dutifully reported on CP. If you would, could you please restore the article? -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 16:00, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

::tens of thousands of people attend major conventions, so they all generate huge amounts of business. Not encyclopedic. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

:::I agree with Jensen. Pot/Kettle? Given the sex scandals that have and continue to hit both parties, singling out one of them is not the best road to go down..... --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 19:31, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
:::tk is ok. We have lots of middle school kids and tehy shouldn't be wasting their time on this stuff when they can read about Henry VIII. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 20:11, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

== Kingdom of the Netherlands ==

Could you move [[Kingdom of the Netherlands]] to the [[Netherlands]]? (See [[Talk:The_Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands#The_Kingdom_of_the_Netherlands_is_not_the_Netherlands.21|here]]) Thanks, [[User:ClementB|Clement ♗]] 13:24, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::ok--good idea. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 14:04, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Thanks again! [[User:ClementB|Clement ♗]] 14:30, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

== Arguing only.... ==

This: [http://www.conservapedia.com/World_History_Lecture_Nine] is exactly what I was talking about. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 17:42, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

== Pilgrim's Progress ==

Hi - sorry to bother. When you edited [[Pilgrim's Progress]] earlier, did the images load ok? For some reason I am only seeing an empty frame, yet the code looks correct and I am about to pull my hair out figuring out what is wrong! --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 09:03, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
::the images did not load --probably because they are too big. I can resize them now if you want. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 09:12, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
:::I would really appreciate that! Thank you so much. (I know it is a physical impossibility, but it seems I too have blonde moments *grin*) --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 09:17, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
::::yes it works! (I made the map smaller) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 09:37, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thank you again! That is one I owe you. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 09:49, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

== Fake Quotes ==
I will no longer use BrainyQuote.com, publishers of fake quotes. Thanks for the correction.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 11:05, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
::good idea. it's weird how so many quotes get faked these days. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:30, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

== Internet Vandals ==

Some of these anti-intellectual vandals and trolls were having some fun at your expense, Richard. If you've gotten wind of it, or hear of it at some point, pay it no mind. Mainly just a group of malcontented trolls who frequent several sites, and of course the usual gang of young teen vandals all too common to the Internet. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 20:28, 19 April 2009 (EDT)
::thanks--yes they do get under my skin :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:30, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

:::Oh, BTW:
<blockquote>
Lending at the biggest U.S. banks has fallen more sharply than realized, despite government efforts to pump billions of dollars into the financial sector.

According to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Treasury Department data, the biggest recipients of taxpayer aid made or refinanced 23% less in new loans in February, the latest available data, than in October, the month the Treasury kicked off the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

The total dollar amount of new loans declined in three of the four months the government has reported this data." [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124019360346233883.html#mod=rss_whats_news_us]
</blockquote>
--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 00:33, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
::thanks for the tip. I'll keep updating the article. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:42, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

== Great effort ==

Great effort cleaning up the vandalism this morning! You might observe that vandalism is almost perfectly correlated with products of the political left.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:51, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
::thanks. they are nettlesome gnats. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 11:54, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== Redneck ==

Perhaps it would be more accurate to state it was historically a derogatory term, but that since the late 1950's it has been co-opted by the targets of the term, and in modern usage it isn't necessarily viewed as a negative? Think Jeff Foxworthy, etc. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 16:03, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
::good point! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:18, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

:::Thanks, Richard! I remember that cartoon, too! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 16:45, 30 April 2009 (EDT)
::::It's one of my favorites. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:51, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

== [[Socialism]] ==

RJ, when you get a moment, could you look at [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Socialism#Grammatical_Edit_and_Rebuttal this?] The editor wants to add what he feels is a needed rebuttal to what he feels is something too pro-socialist...I don't see what he's getting at, but do want to accommodate him if possible. Since most of the work there is now yours, I am deferring to your judgment. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 00:12, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::OK I worked on it. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 11:09, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

== Lenin ==

Hey RJJensen, so, you're ''much'' better at history than I am, but I do feel compelled to ask about your moving of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin to Lenin (I put the full reasons on the talk page) - simply because I feel precedent would have us use his full name, but the reason I'm posting here is just to clarify that I in no way mean to question you and the request is in no way meant as an insult - I have a lot of respect for you and I just want to make sure there won't be a misunderstanding. Thanks!--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 15:20, 2 May 2009 (EDT)
::thanks for the note--no offense taken and i'm glad you asked disguise his identity and so it should not be treated like ordinary names. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:42, 2 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Understood - thanks very much! --[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 15:47, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

Lol, sorry about the misspelled name! I can't believe I did that ... in all seriousness though it really is awesome to work with you - so if you ever need a template or anything done, lemme know.--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 23:25, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
::hey thanks--I'm a klutz at progamming and appreciate the help. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:31, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

== Quotes ==
Trying to determine if a quote is a fake. I tried Google, it comes up everywhere with blogs only. I tried Google books, about 5 come up. I would think credible historical sites would list if true. Can you confirm Thomas Jefferson "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:02, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
::I searched around and it appears to be a fake. All genuine Jefferson quotes are well represented in books.google.com [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:20, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

== "the best"? ==

What constitutes the best prose writer? I would imagine that it is impossible to say in a way that does not involve a whole lot of personal opinion, which as you know is not the kind of objective fact you would expect to find in an encyclopedia. From what I gather you yourself are not an Italian literature scholar, and even if you can read Italian extremely well and have read a good deal of Italian prose I really don't think you can say "he is the best", simply because, as I just said, its subjective. thanks --[[User:MrEmerson|MrEmerson]] 20:48, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::objective fact---hmmm. what sort of facts are those? [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:13, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

:::I suspect liberal "facts", RJ. What is indisputeable is he wasn't a very good sockmaster! Brendanw, EmersonW, MrEmerson and several accounts that look like IP's were all his. Sorry to ruin your fun with this guy...I didn't see you had engaged him until after I had begun shutting him down. Next time I will let you have fun with them! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 21:23, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::::yeah--my goal is to drive them away redfaced and yours is to catch them red-handed (red moused?) :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:30, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

ROFL! Whatever happened to the apparently archaic practice of playing outside? Worries me these little kids no longer play outside.... --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 21:33, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::on Wikipedia I once was so annoyed by vandals that I complained to the school's principal in New Jersey. since they weren't harrassing HIM, he ignored my complaint. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:46, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

:::Sherry Lansing, once in the motion picture business, has lived her business life by one rule: she never leaves the office without returning, or attempting to return ALL calls. No matter that she doesn't know the person, or they end up being someone complaining about a movie they saw. Once, at a charity deal, I asked her why. She winked and said several of those calls had made her millions in good ideas or a writer looking for someone to buy their script. She just hated the thought of being rude and not responding, saying her mother raised her better than that. Sounds like that principal is reaping what he sows. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 00:47, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

==Revert==
Please revert User:ForTheWin's edits (I would myself, but I can't revert past one edit :(

==Thanks==
Thanks for the nice comments on my page! I am very excited for Princeton in the fall. I'll also definitely look up Liz Jensen - aerospace engineering, wow, that's great! I am considering engineering also, with mechanical/aerospace engineering near the top of my list. --[[User:PhyllisS|PhyllisS]] 21:56, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
::you might have Liz as your TA -- she loves to teach. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:04, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

== Upload ==

Can you give me upload picture rights?--  † [[User:FellowChristian16|Fellow]][[User talk:FellowChristian16|Christian]][[Special:Contributions/FellowChristian16|16]]  00:42, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
::I don't have the power; ask [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]].--[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:47, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Just out of curiosity, would you give it to me if you could?--  † [[User:FellowChristian16|Fellow]][[User talk:FellowChristian16|Christian]][[Special:Contributions/FellowChristian16|16]]  01:01, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

== Austria ==

Hello RJJensen. Just wanted to let you know that you mistakenly moved the picture of Stephansdom in Passau over to the page on Austria. Living in Austria myself, I can attest that Passau is indeed in Germany, and Vienna's Stephansdom looks nothing like this picture! [[User:JDWpianist|JDWpianist]] 08:33, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
::thanks for that. my mistake. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:59, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

== Excuse me, sir! ==

Sir, you seem to be an in-charge-type around here. This being so, could you inform me how to upload images, as I can't find the button that I am so used to using on other wikis.--[[User:Woloct|Woloct]] 00:17, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

== Furthermore... ==

What's more, the page D.C.[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=D.C&redirect=no] is currently locked, and yet it's only a double-redirect. Could you, as an admin, fix this? Thank you.--[[User:Woloct|Woloct]] 00:23, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

And while we're on the topic, [[President Harry S. Truman]] [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=President_Harry_S._Truman&redirect=no] has the same problem. Poor Harry.
Thanks again.--[[User:Woloct|Woloct]] 00:26, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
:: technical pages (like the Truman and DC examples) should not be altered. To request a picture upload goto [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:31, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Thank you for the response! While we're on the topic, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Gary_glitter] is completely devoid of content. Could you unlock it or, preferably, destroy it?--[[User:Woloct|Woloct]] 00:35, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

::::I could partially fix a few. However, the Truman article is problematic inasmuch as it should be titled "Harry S. Truman" not "Harry Truman". Lots of links, however, so I will work on changing them and moving the main article. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 00:38, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

==Silly stuff==

Could you check Gianni's contribs? [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Gianni] I think a lot of it is just random silliness. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 18:09, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
::I was just looking at those. agreed. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 18:10, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

== Plymouth Brethren ==

This article wasn´t accepted by liberal wikipedia, why you refuse it in Conservapedia, please give reasons.

== Conservapedia:Featured articles ==

Any proposal for new articles? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 19:45, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
::how about [[Atlanta]]. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 03:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

::: Done, now you may vote. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 08:32, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism==

Please revert my bad joke (see [[Counter Reformation]]). --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 08:44, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:Oh, so you '''are''' awake ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:00, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
::well I make too many typos when I write in my sleep, so I have a stiff cup of coffee right now. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 09:04, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

==new article==
Maybe you can add some historical background to my new article [[Melting pot]]. If so, thanks! [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 22:24, 29 May 2009 (EDT)
::yes...it's a favorite topic of mine. Thanks for getting it started! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 05:12, 30 May 2009 (EDT)

== Labour Pary ==

*Why do you keep vandalizing my correction on the "Labour Party" article. Stop it! The Labour Party IS a socialist party. The party officially describes itself as "democratic socialist." And by the way, Tony Blair has never officially renounced socialism. American conservatives need to get over this ridiculous idea that just because Blair supported the War on Terror that means he is a conservative. He's not! --- [[User:AmerICan|AmerICan]] 19:00, 11 June 2009 (EDT)
::take it to the talk page first or you will get banned for vandalism. Thanks. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 19:01, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for your helpful corrections to my new pages for the Obama czars! I'm new here, and looks like I went a bit overboard with the speculation into non-neutrality -- my summaries were written more as an anti-wikipedia than as truly neutral articles. I'll try to be more neutral in the future!
::and thank you for taking the initiative! [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 00:44, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

==Lusitania==
Whay are you insistant on hiding any information on the cargo of that ship, and why are you removing historical information? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:05, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::CP should condemn terrorism against helpless civilians, as all the world did at the time. The Germmans are the ones who tried to justify their actions, but they sank an unarmed undefended passenger ship deliberately in order to terrify the British. I added the German captain's own war diary account, which gives the German perspective. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:09, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Yes, I agree, and I would have posted the sub's war diary as well if and when I found it, but the fact remains that you have removed needed material from the article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:11, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::::well what historical material do you think should be included? [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:22, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::The past and present allegations pertaining to its munitions cargo and the current archaeological findings as reported in ''Archaeology'' Magazine and others; pertinent information regarding its passengers, sailing date, and final moments off Ireland; the German warnings in the New York Times, its declaration of the war zone around the British Isles, and its belief that ''Lusitania'' was carrying war cargo; current condition of the ship, the attempted destruction of the wreck by the British Government in the 1950's, and the case involving the owners of the wreck vs. the Irish Government...in short, just about everything. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:31, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::most of the info is in there. There should be a separate section on archaeology (which is ongoing--Wiki has some of the details). The "munitions" bit is a red herring that Germans used to justify killing innocent Americans. We need to keep an American perspective, not that of the discredited Kaiser's government that used terrorism and war crimes routinely. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 12:37, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Read what I posted here [http://www.conservapedia.com/File:Lusitania_warnings.png][http://www.conservapedia.com/File:WashingtonpostMay8_1915.jpg]; period newspaper reports from the Washington Post which suggest that ''Lusitania's'' captain scoffed at the danger from Germany. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:04, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::yes the ship shouild have been zig-zagging as ordered. not a good reason to kill americans. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 13:15, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
So, would a discussion of illegal arms shipments by the Wilson administration in contrast to the [[Iran contra affair]] be innappropriate? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 20:02, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::No, not true and not appropriate. and please if you insist on showing bias at least make it a pro-American bias, not anti-American. Better yet is no bias using the best scholarship. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 20:38, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Is being critical of Iran contra anti-American bias? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 20:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::left wing biases are unwelcome here.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 20:59, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Not necessarily so, solong as they are cited as such. Under those circumstances, they provide balance. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 21:02, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==Let's cut to the chase==
Here's the biggest problem you have to deal with: the Founder of the Roosevelt Presidential Library, [[Trude Lash]], was a [[Stalinist]] [[KGB]] operative. How do you propose we deal with this? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 00:34, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::I was at the fdr Library last week and talked to the archivist personally. What's the problem? [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:35, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

:::I'm still working on the Trude Lash material, you'll have to give me at least a few days. Incidentally, did you ever see this one at Hyde Park:
::::5. Joseph A. Michela, Military Attache Moscow Report 1903, "N.K.V.D. of the U.S.S.R.," 14 April 1941, Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, Harry Hopkins Papers, "MID Reports--USSR--Volume V," box 190.
:::all six pages [https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/venona-soviet-espionage-and-the-american-response-1939-1957/part1.htm available here] [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 21:28, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
Excerpted p.5:
:''Any governmental organization that has a crying need for labor simply calls upobn the N.K.V.D to supply it. If the amount of labor is insufficient to supply the need, it is relatively an easy matter to institute a reign of terror on any pretext and fill up the labor colonies to meet requirements. There is little doubt that during the purges of the past, one eye was kept on the labor needs of government projects...."'' [https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/venona-soviet-espionage-and-the-american-response-1939-1957/5d.gif]
That's only a random selection, there's much more. And this is dated six months before Pearl Harbor. Many Americans had to wait till the 1970s and Solzhenitsyn's book to hear of this. All our reliable sources told us up til then was Harry and Uncle Joe got on like a "house of fire." [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 21:40, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

::I did not see that particular document but I did see others like it. FDR founded the FDR Library, not Trude Lash. The FDR Library received the FDR papers only after FDR died--there were no secret documents there during the war years.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 11:06, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:::FDR founded the library? Where the papers his personal property when he did so? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 14:59, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::The archivist told me that FDR raised $400,000 in 1940 to build the library on his property at Hyde park. He deeded it to the federal government. Since his death the government (National Archives) has owned and operated it; they moved his papers there in the late 1940s. Trude Lash her Joseph Lash husband years later set up a separate private FDR institute that runs academic programs. I'm not sure about Trude's politics but her husband Joseph Lash was the leading ANTI-Communist in student affairs in 1939 when he met Eleanor and they became close friends. Eleanor strongly encouraged Joe's marriage to Trude in 1944. Joe Lash and ER were key leaders of the anti-communist movement in the US in the late 1940s.[[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:::::That structure, the government holding the deed to the FBI Library would then be different from other Presidential libraries under current law. So this is what you've been told.
:::::Two points. Let's clarify, (a) [[Joseph Lash]] was an anti-communist? even Wikipedia cites Joseph Lash heading a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_front#Alleged_CPUSA_front_organizations.2C_circa_1944 Communist front organization]] on the [[Attorney General]]'s list in 1944 (Attorney General Francis Biddle, that is. M.Stanton Evens says the FDR administration established this list in 1941).
:::::(b) were the FDR papers, moved to his personal residence, considered FDR's personal property? This obviously relates to Nixon taking a tax deduction for the donation of his vice-presidential papers, seeing that by precedent, FDR & Lyndon Johnson's papers were regarded as thier personal property. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::Lash had been a fellow traveler in the 1930s, broke with the Communists in 1939, and became the #1 anti-communist student leader. (he resigned from the Am. Youth Congress in 1940 when the reds took it over.) He later was a founder of the ADA, the leading anti-communist group in the late 1940s. FDR did not consider the presidential papers to be his personal property, but he did have many non-presidential papers. (For example, his widow sold off his stamp collection.) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:11, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::::Really? our sources say [[American_Youth_Congress#Dies_investigation| he defected from the Socialist Party]] to the Comintern in 1937 (the source being none other than himself <s>Trude Lash</s>). And that still doesn't explain how he ends up on the wartime [[Attorney General's list]] of [[subversive]] organizations. If memory serves me correct, there were only a dozen or so subversive organizations when the list began under FDR in 1941, of which Joe Lash's [[American Youth Congress]] is one. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:06, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:::::::::ER Encylopedia says: ''"the Soviet Union signed a nonaggression pact with Germany in August 1939. Led by Joseph Lash, a founder and executive secretary of the ASU, a number of members condemned the Soviet action. Although communists were a minority of the ASU, by this time they held a majority of the leadership positions and exerted powerful control over the organization’s national board. Communist ASU officers condemned Lash for his views, organized a successful campaign to vote him out of office, and adopted a communist, anti–New Deal, isolationist position."'' (p 15) It notes that most members then quit the ASU and many joined the new anti-communist International Student Service (ISS) which Lash headed. Lash was not on the Attorney General's list because it only listed organizations--it named groups that Lash had quit or been expelled from years before. SEE [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,763168,00.html TIME story Jan 8 1940] [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:36, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::So the time has come to do a [[Joe Lash]] bio; this has been on my to-do list for many years.... [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::yes, he's interesting. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 17:59, 2 July 2009 (EDT)