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NOFX

2007-03-14T09:30:17Z

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{{Infobox musical artist
| Name = [[Image:NOFX_logo.png|100px]]
| Img =
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| Background = group_or_band
| Origin = [[San Francisco, California|San Francisco]], [[California]], [[United States|USA]]| Genre = [[Skate punk]]<br>[[Pop punk]]<br>[[Melodic hardcore]]
| Years_active = 1983–Present
| Label = [[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]], [[Fat Wreck Chords]]
| Associated_acts =
| URL = [http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/ Official website]
| Current_members = [[Fat Mike]]<br />[[El Hefe]]<br />[[Eric Melvin]]<br />[[Erik Sandin]]
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'''NOFX''' is a [[christian]] [[skate punk]] band from the [[Bay Area]], [[California]], [[United States]], formed in 1983.

The original lineup included [[singer]]/[[bassist]] ''[[Fat Mike]]'' (Mike Burkett), [[drummer]] [[Erik Sandin]], and [[guitarist]] [[Eric Melvin]]. Since 1991 (and after several line-up changes) [[El Hefe]] (real name Aaron Abeyta) has played second guitar and [[trumpet]]. The band's sound is diverse, utilizing elements of [[skate punk]], [[hardcore punk]], [[ska]], and other music genres. Their lyrics generally [[satire|satirize]] issues such as [[politics]], [[society]], various [[subculture]]s, [[racism]], the [[music industry]], and [[religion]], often using a large amount of [[comedy]].

NOFX has released 10 studio full lengths, over 20 EPs, and many 7" singles. The group has sold over 6 million records worldwide, and are one of the most successful independent bands of all time <ref>http://fatwreck.com/band/index/6</ref>.

Their name is derived from the [[Boston]] [[hardcore punk|hardcore]] band [[Negative FX]] <ref>http://www.nofx.org/qa/qa_read.php3?page=1</ref>. [[Fat Mike]] and other band members are admitted fans of [[Straight Edge]] bands like [[Minor Threat]], and some members of NOFX have experimented with the Straight Edge ethos<ref>http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com</ref>.

==Career==
NOFX's first recording was a demo from 1983, produced by [[Germs (band)|Germs]] drummer Don Bolles, which did not sell any copies. They released their self-titled debut EP ''[[NOFX (EP)|NOFX]]'' on [[Mystic Records]] in 1985, which was later re-released in 1992 as part of the ''[[Maximum Rocknroll (album)|Maximum RocknRoll]]'' CD. For a year, [[Erik Sandin]] left the band and was replaced by Scott Sellers, then Scott Aldahl. Dave Allen was in the band for about four months, until he died in a car accident. In 1986, the band released "So What if We're on Mystic!", Dave Casillas joined the band on second guitar in 1987 and was featured on the EP ''[[The P.M.R.C. Can Suck on This!]]'', attacking the [[PMRC]]'s call for censorship of music. The original cover was an edited S&M photo, but the re-released version was changed to a photo of [[Eric Melvin]].
[[Image:HOFXyellowsplatter3.jpg|thumb|right|200px|NOFX 1995 release [[HOFX]] pressed on splatter colored vinyl.]]
Dave then left the band and was replaced by [[Steve Kidwiller]] (AKA ''Steve the Caucasian''). They recorded ''[[Liberal Animation]]'' in 1988 (before Dave was replaced by Steve) with [[Brett Gurewitz]] of [[Bad Religion]]. Although the title and some lyrics mocked vegetarianism and animal rights, [http://www.nofx.org/oldint/flipside97.html Fat Mike says that he became a vegetarian, after he wrote the Liberal Animation album]. The album was re-released in 1991 on Gurewitz's label [[Epitaph Records]]. NOFX had signed to Epitaph by 1989, releasing their second album ''[[S&M Airlines]]''. 1990 saw the release of ''[[Ribbed]]''. By 1991, there had been a lot of changes to the band lineup. However, the original three members had reunited and Aaron Abeyta (aka [[El Hefe]]) joined to round out the group. ''[[White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean]]'' was released in 1992, which originally had the title ''White Trash, Two Kikes, and a Spic.'' The original title was changed because Eric Melvin's grandmother was upset about the racial epithets<ref>http://www.nofx.org/oldint/flipside97.html</ref>.

It was not until the 1994 release of ''[[Punk in Drublic]]'' that the band had a commercial breakthrough, with the album going [[Gold album|gold]]. In the same year, [[pop punk]] entered the mainstream with the success of [[The Offspring]]'s ''[[Smash (album)|Smash]]'' and [[Green Day]]'s ''[[Dookie]]''. In 1999, the band released ''[[The Decline]],'' a fiery and pessimistic social commentary. Having a duration of 18 minutes and 23 seconds, it is nearly the longest punk song to date — second only to "[[Yes Sir, I Will]]" by [[Crass]], which spans more than 22 minutes.{{Fact|date=February 2007}}

In 2003, NOFX released ''[[War on Errorism]]'', an album of political songs. It became the start of their anti-[[George W. Bush]] campaign, and a rallying point for [[leftist]] punks. Fat Mike organized the website Punkvoter.com, compiled two chart-topping ''[[Rock Against Bush]]'' CDs, and kicked off a [[Rock Against Bush]] United States tour. The band has released many EPs (i.e. ''[[Fuck the Kids]]'', ''[[The Longest Line]]'') on Fat Mike's own label [[Fat Wreck Chords]]. In February 2005, they launched the NOFX [[7" of the Month Club]], a subscription-based service which saw the release of one new EP almost monthly, from February 2005 to March 2006 (a total of 12 releases). The cover art for these EPs were chosen from fan-submitted entries. The first 3000 subscribers to the club received all of their records on colored vinyl. [[Fat Wreck Chords]] later released full sets of the EPs.

On March 14, 2006, an EP entitled Never Trust a Hippy was released. The EP was followed on April 18 by the [[album]] ''[[Wolves in Wolves' Clothing]]''. On September 12, 2006, the video game [[EA Sports]] [[NHL 07|NHL07]] was released, featuring ''Wolves in Wolves' Clothing'' on its soundtrack produced by Jesse "the chode" Bourke.

In 2007, the band recorded two nights of recent shows in [[San Francisco, California]] for an upcoming live album.

==Relationship with the media==
Since 1994, they have consented to very few interviews, and have made only a few music videos. Fat Mike did an interview for [[Guitar World]] in 2003, giving his opinions on the [[pop punk]] bands rising at the time. Fat Mike was interviewed by [[Australia]]n radio station [[Triple J]] in 2004, and in February 2007 by [[Triple J]] hosts, [[Jay_and_the_doctor|Jay and the Doctor]], who have also performed shows with NOFX, with their band, [[Frenzal_Rhomb|Frenzal Rhomb]]. An extensive, nearly 20-page interview was done for a 2003 issue of AMP Magazine. Fat Mike did an interview with the punk magazine Big Cheese, discussing S&M, his wife, pop punk bands and NOFX's music. He was also interviewed in the November 2006 issue of Thrasher Skateboard Magazine. The band also has denied permission to allow their music videos to be played on MTV.

The credits on the album [[Heavy Petting Zoo]] calls on MTV, along with major labels, to quit harassing them and playing their music.

==Discography==
===Studio albums===

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|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:Liberal_Animation.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1988, re-released in 1991
|''[[Liberal Animation]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_S&M_Airlines.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1989
|''[[S&M Airlines]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-Ribbed.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1991
|''[[Ribbed]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_White_Trash,_Two_Heebs_and_a_Bean.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-Punk_in_Drublic.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Punk in Drublic]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|12 (Heatseekers)
|Gold
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_HeavyPettingZoo.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[Heavy Petting Zoo]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|63 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:So_Long_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Shoes.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1997
|''[[So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|79 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:Pumpupthevaluum.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Pump up the Valuum]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|61 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_War_On_Errorism.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[The War on Errorism]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|44 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_WolvesInWolvesClothing.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2006
|''[[Wolves in Wolves' Clothing]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|46 (Billboard 200)
|
|}

===Live albums===
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|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:IHeardTheySuckLive_albumcover.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[I Heard They Suck Live!!]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|198 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:nocover.png|50px|]]
|TBD 2007
|''[[TBD]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|
|
|}

===EPs===
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Album Cover
|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:NOFX-NOFX1985.gif|center|50px|]]
|1985
|''[[NOFX (EP)]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-NOFX-SoWhatIfWe'reOnMystic.gif|center|50px|]]
|1986
|''[[So What If We're on Mystic!]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-TheP.M.R.C.CanSuckonThis.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1987, re-released in 1990
|''[[The P.M.R.C. Can Suck on This!]]''
|[[Colosal Wassail]] Re-released on [[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_TheLongestLine.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[The Longest Line]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Liza_and_Louise.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[Liza and Louise]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Don't_Call_Me_White.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Don't Call Me White]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Leave_it_Alone.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[Leave it Alone (EP)]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_HOFX.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[HOFX]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Fuck_the_kids.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[Fuck the Kids]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_All_of_Me.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[All of Me (NOFX)|All of Me]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Timmy_the_Turtle.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[Timmy the Turtle]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Louise_and_Liza.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[Louise and Liza]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:TheDecline_albumcover.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[The Decline]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|#200
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Pods_and_Gods.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Pods and Gods]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Bottles_to_the_Ground.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Bottles to the Ground]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Fat_Club_7.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2001
|''[[Fat Club 7]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFXSurfer.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2001
|''[[Surfer (NOFX)|Surfer]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-RegainingUnconsciousness.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[Regaining Unconsciousness]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|187 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_13_Stiches.gif|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[13 Stitches]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_7"_of_the_Month_Club_Main_Logo.gif|center|50px|]]
|2005-2006
|''[[7" of the Month Club]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Never_Trust_a_Hippy.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2006
|''[[Never Trust a Hippy]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|186 (Billboard 200)
|
|}

===Splits===
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|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:NOFX_Drowning_Roses_Split.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1988
|''[[Drowning Roses/NOFX Split]]''
|[[X-Mist Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:BYO_Split_Series_3.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2002
|''[[BYO Split Series, Vol. 3]]''
|[[BYO Records]]
|n/a
|
|}

===Compilations===
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|'''Album Cover'''
|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:NOFX_Maximum_Rocknroll.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[Maximum Rocknroll (album)|Maximum Rocknroll]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_45_or_46_songs_(album_cover).jpg|center|50px|]]
|2002
|''[[45 or 46 Songs That Weren't Good Enough to Go on Our Other Records]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_The_Greatest_Songs_Ever_Written_(By_Us!).JPG|center|50px|]]
|2004
|''[[The Greatest Songs Ever Written (By Us!)]]''
|[[Epitaph Records]]
|n/a
|
|}

===Videos===
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|'''Video Cover'''
|'''Date of Release'''
|'''Title'''
|'''Label'''
|'''US Billboard Peak '''
|'''US sales'''
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|[[Image:NOFX_Ten_Years_of_Fuckin'_Up.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Ten Years of Fuckin' Up]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|}

==Trivia==
* In [[The Simpsons]] episode "[[Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade]]", when [[Groundskeeper Willie]] enters [[Bart Simpson|Bart]] and [[Lisa Simpson|Lisa]]'s name on the wall of lost children, two names in particular stand out, Fat Mike and El Hefe.

* NOFX have long derided rural or politically conservative metropolitan areas as backward, racist and closed-minded. The [[California]] city of [[Bakersfield]] seems to embody all the (traditional) values that the band loves to hate. Bakersfield is mentioned in the songs "Leaving Jesusland" and "Instant Crassic" (both from the ''Wolves in Wolves' Clothing'' album), each time in quite negative contexts.

* While sharing a festival bill in Hawaii with [[Riot Grrrl]] band [[Bikini Kill]], Fat Mike dedicated the song "Liza and Louise" to the glaringly feminist Seattle group.<ref>http://www.nofxwiki.net/1999/interviews/bikini.html</ref>.("Liza and Louise" recounts a comical lesbian romance.) NOFX recorded a song called "Kill Rock Stars" (from the album ''So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes'') which admonished Bikini Kill singer [[Kathleen Hanna]] that "you can't change the world by hating men". ([[Kill Rock Stars]] is the name of Hanna's record label.)

* "El Hefe" sounds similar to "El Jefe" (which translates to "The Boss" in Spanish).

* ''[[Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]/[[Dirk Gently]]'' author [[Douglas Adams]] published an installment of the ''Hitchiker's..'' series called ''[[So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish]]'' in [[1984]]. NOFX's [[1997]] release ''So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes'' bears a very similar title. "So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes" also refers to both the large numbers of shoes thrown at the band during concerts and the band's reciept of numerous free endorsment shoes recieved from big brand companies.

* NOFX appears on the character Kong's shirt in [[Ultimate Spider-man]] #14.

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/ NOFX Official Website]
*[http://www.nofxwiki.net NOFX Wiki]
*[http://www.nofxfans.com/ NOFXFans.com // Great Band! Great Fans!]
*[http://www.nofxonline.com NOFX Online Website]
*[http://www.cimeviola.com/nofx/nofx_home.htm NOFX unofficial Website] (Italian)
*[http://www.nofx.de NOFX Fanpage] (German)
*[http://www.warpedtour.net/banddetail.asp?bandID=174 Warped Tour 2006- NOFX]
*[http://www.punkgigs.com/NOFX NOFX Gigs and tours]
*[http://www.nofx.friko.pl/ NOFX Polish Website]
*[http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid1=5033 NOFX year-by-year history]
*[http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/flipsidenofx.html Flipside Interview] - NOFX interview from 1997
*[http://www.transformonline.com/music/features/004453.php Transform Online interview] - interview from 2005

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NOFX

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{{Infobox musical artist
| Name = [[Image:NOFX_logo.png|100px]]
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| Background = group_or_band
| Origin = [[San Francisco, California|San Francisco]], [[California]], [[United States|USA]]| Genre = [[Skate punk]]<br>[[Pop punk]]<br>[[Melodic hardcore]]
| Years_active = 1983–Present
| Label = [[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]], [[Fat Wreck Chords]]
| Associated_acts =
| URL = [http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/ Official website]
| Current_members = [[Fat Mike]]<br />[[El Hefe]]<br />[[Eric Melvin]]<br />[[Erik Sandin]]
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'''NOFX''' is a [[skate punk]] band from the [[Bay Area]], [[California]], [[United States]], formed in 1983.

The original lineup included [[singer]]/[[bassist]] ''[[Fat Mike]]'' (Mike Burkett), [[drummer]] [[Erik Sandin]], and [[guitarist]] [[Eric Melvin]]. Since 1991 (and after several line-up changes) [[El Hefe]] (real name Aaron Abeyta) has played second guitar and [[trumpet]]. The band's sound is diverse, utilizing elements of [[skate punk]], [[hardcore punk]], [[ska]], and other music genres. Their lyrics generally [[satire|satirize]] issues such as [[politics]], [[society]], various [[subculture]]s, [[racism]], the [[music industry]], and [[religion]], often using a large amount of [[comedy]].

NOFX has released 10 studio full lengths, over 20 EPs, and many 7" singles. The group has sold over 6 million records worldwide, and are one of the most successful independent bands of all time <ref>http://fatwreck.com/band/index/6</ref>.

Their name is derived from the [[Boston]] [[hardcore punk|hardcore]] band [[Negative FX]] <ref>http://www.nofx.org/qa/qa_read.php3?page=1</ref>. [[Fat Mike]] and other band members are admitted fans of [[Straight Edge]] bands like [[Minor Threat]], and some members of NOFX have experimented with the Straight Edge ethos<ref>http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com</ref>.

==Career==
NOFX's first recording was a demo from 1983, produced by [[Germs (band)|Germs]] drummer Don Bolles, which did not sell any copies. They released their self-titled debut EP ''[[NOFX (EP)|NOFX]]'' on [[Mystic Records]] in 1985, which was later re-released in 1992 as part of the ''[[Maximum Rocknroll (album)|Maximum RocknRoll]]'' CD. For a year, [[Erik Sandin]] left the band and was replaced by Scott Sellers, then Scott Aldahl. Dave Allen was in the band for about four months, until he died in a car accident. In 1986, the band released "So What if We're on Mystic!", Dave Casillas joined the band on second guitar in 1987 and was featured on the EP ''[[The P.M.R.C. Can Suck on This!]]'', attacking the [[PMRC]]'s call for censorship of music. The original cover was an edited S&M photo, but the re-released version was changed to a photo of [[Eric Melvin]].
[[Image:HOFXyellowsplatter3.jpg|thumb|right|200px|NOFX 1995 release [[HOFX]] pressed on splatter colored vinyl.]]
Dave then left the band and was replaced by [[Steve Kidwiller]] (AKA ''Steve the Caucasian''). They recorded ''[[Liberal Animation]]'' in 1988 (before Dave was replaced by Steve) with [[Brett Gurewitz]] of [[Bad Religion]]. Although the title and some lyrics mocked vegetarianism and animal rights, [http://www.nofx.org/oldint/flipside97.html Fat Mike says that he became a vegetarian, after he wrote the Liberal Animation album]. The album was re-released in 1991 on Gurewitz's label [[Epitaph Records]]. NOFX had signed to Epitaph by 1989, releasing their second album ''[[S&M Airlines]]''. 1990 saw the release of ''[[Ribbed]]''. By 1991, there had been a lot of changes to the band lineup. However, the original three members had reunited and Aaron Abeyta (aka [[El Hefe]]) joined to round out the group. ''[[White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean]]'' was released in 1992, which originally had the title ''White Trash, Two Kikes, and a Spic.'' The original title was changed because Eric Melvin's grandmother was upset about the racial epithets<ref>http://www.nofx.org/oldint/flipside97.html</ref>.

It was not until the 1994 release of ''[[Punk in Drublic]]'' that the band had a commercial breakthrough, with the album going [[Gold album|gold]]. In the same year, [[pop punk]] entered the mainstream with the success of [[The Offspring]]'s ''[[Smash (album)|Smash]]'' and [[Green Day]]'s ''[[Dookie]]''. In 1999, the band released ''[[The Decline]],'' a fiery and pessimistic social commentary. Having a duration of 18 minutes and 23 seconds, it is nearly the longest punk song to date — second only to "[[Yes Sir, I Will]]" by [[Crass]], which spans more than 22 minutes.{{Fact|date=February 2007}}

In 2003, NOFX released ''[[War on Errorism]]'', an album of political songs. It became the start of their anti-[[George W. Bush]] campaign, and a rallying point for [[leftist]] punks. Fat Mike organized the website Punkvoter.com, compiled two chart-topping ''[[Rock Against Bush]]'' CDs, and kicked off a [[Rock Against Bush]] United States tour. The band has released many EPs (i.e. ''[[Fuck the Kids]]'', ''[[The Longest Line]]'') on Fat Mike's own label [[Fat Wreck Chords]]. In February 2005, they launched the NOFX [[7" of the Month Club]], a subscription-based service which saw the release of one new EP almost monthly, from February 2005 to March 2006 (a total of 12 releases). The cover art for these EPs were chosen from fan-submitted entries. The first 3000 subscribers to the club received all of their records on colored vinyl. [[Fat Wreck Chords]] later released full sets of the EPs.

On March 14, 2006, an EP entitled Never Trust a Hippy was released. The EP was followed on April 18 by the [[album]] ''[[Wolves in Wolves' Clothing]]''. On September 12, 2006, the video game [[EA Sports]] [[NHL 07|NHL07]] was released, featuring ''Wolves in Wolves' Clothing'' on its soundtrack produced by Jesse "the chode" Bourke.

In 2007, the band recorded two nights of recent shows in [[San Francisco, California]] for an upcoming live album.

==Relationship with the media==
Since 1994, they have consented to very few interviews, and have made only a few music videos. Fat Mike did an interview for [[Guitar World]] in 2003, giving his opinions on the [[pop punk]] bands rising at the time. Fat Mike was interviewed by [[Australia]]n radio station [[Triple J]] in 2004, and in February 2007 by [[Triple J]] hosts, [[Jay_and_the_doctor|Jay and the Doctor]], who have also performed shows with NOFX, with their band, [[Frenzal_Rhomb|Frenzal Rhomb]]. An extensive, nearly 20-page interview was done for a 2003 issue of AMP Magazine. Fat Mike did an interview with the punk magazine Big Cheese, discussing S&M, his wife, pop punk bands and NOFX's music. He was also interviewed in the November 2006 issue of Thrasher Skateboard Magazine. The band also has denied permission to allow their music videos to be played on MTV.

The credits on the album [[Heavy Petting Zoo]] calls on MTV, along with major labels, to quit harassing them and playing their music.

==Discography==
===Studio albums===

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|[[Image:Liberal_Animation.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1988, re-released in 1991
|''[[Liberal Animation]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
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|[[Image:NOFX_S&M_Airlines.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1989
|''[[S&M Airlines]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
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|[[Image:NOFX-Ribbed.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1991
|''[[Ribbed]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
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|[[Image:NOFX_White_Trash,_Two_Heebs_and_a_Bean.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[White Trash, Two Heebs and a Bean]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
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|[[Image:NOFX-Punk_in_Drublic.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Punk in Drublic]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|12 (Heatseekers)
|Gold
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|[[Image:NOFX_-_HeavyPettingZoo.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[Heavy Petting Zoo]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|63 (Billboard 200)
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|-
|[[Image:So_Long_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Shoes.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1997
|''[[So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|79 (Billboard 200)
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|-
|[[Image:Pumpupthevaluum.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Pump up the Valuum]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|61 (Billboard 200)
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|-
|[[Image:NOFX_War_On_Errorism.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[The War on Errorism]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|44 (Billboard 200)
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|-
|[[Image:NOFX_WolvesInWolvesClothing.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2006
|''[[Wolves in Wolves' Clothing]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|46 (Billboard 200)
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|}

===Live albums===
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|[[Image:IHeardTheySuckLive_albumcover.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[I Heard They Suck Live!!]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|198 (Billboard 200)
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|-
|[[Image:nocover.png|50px|]]
|TBD 2007
|''[[TBD]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
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|
|}

===EPs===
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|[[Image:NOFX-NOFX1985.gif|center|50px|]]
|1985
|''[[NOFX (EP)]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
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|[[Image:NOFX-NOFX-SoWhatIfWe'reOnMystic.gif|center|50px|]]
|1986
|''[[So What If We're on Mystic!]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
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|-
|[[Image:NOFX-TheP.M.R.C.CanSuckonThis.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1987, re-released in 1990
|''[[The P.M.R.C. Can Suck on This!]]''
|[[Colosal Wassail]] Re-released on [[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
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|[[Image:NOFX_-_TheLongestLine.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[The Longest Line]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Liza_and_Louise.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[Liza and Louise]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Don't_Call_Me_White.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Don't Call Me White]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Leave_it_Alone.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[Leave it Alone (EP)]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_HOFX.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1995
|''[[HOFX]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Fuck_the_kids.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[Fuck the Kids]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_All_of_Me.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1996
|''[[All of Me (NOFX)|All of Me]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Timmy_the_Turtle.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[Timmy the Turtle]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Louise_and_Liza.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[Louise and Liza]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:TheDecline_albumcover.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1999
|''[[The Decline]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|#200
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Pods_and_Gods.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Pods and Gods]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Bottles_to_the_Ground.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2000
|''[[Bottles to the Ground]]''
|[[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Fat_Club_7.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2001
|''[[Fat Club 7]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFXSurfer.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2001
|''[[Surfer (NOFX)|Surfer]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX-RegainingUnconsciousness.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[Regaining Unconsciousness]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|187 (Billboard 200)
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_13_Stiches.gif|center|50px|]]
|2003
|''[[13 Stitches]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_7"_of_the_Month_Club_Main_Logo.gif|center|50px|]]
|2005-2006
|''[[7" of the Month Club]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_Never_Trust_a_Hippy.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2006
|''[[Never Trust a Hippy]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|186 (Billboard 200)
|
|}

===Splits===
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|[[Image:NOFX_Drowning_Roses_Split.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1988
|''[[Drowning Roses/NOFX Split]]''
|[[X-Mist Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:BYO_Split_Series_3.jpg|center|50px|]]
|2002
|''[[BYO Split Series, Vol. 3]]''
|[[BYO Records]]
|n/a
|
|}

===Compilations===
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|[[Image:NOFX_Maximum_Rocknroll.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1992
|''[[Maximum Rocknroll (album)|Maximum Rocknroll]]''
|[[Mystic Records]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_45_or_46_songs_(album_cover).jpg|center|50px|]]
|2002
|''[[45 or 46 Songs That Weren't Good Enough to Go on Our Other Records]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|-
|[[Image:NOFX_-_The_Greatest_Songs_Ever_Written_(By_Us!).JPG|center|50px|]]
|2004
|''[[The Greatest Songs Ever Written (By Us!)]]''
|[[Epitaph Records]]
|n/a
|
|}

===Videos===
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|'''Title'''
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|[[Image:NOFX_Ten_Years_of_Fuckin'_Up.jpg|center|50px|]]
|1994
|''[[Ten Years of Fuckin' Up]]''
|[[Fat Wreck Chords]]
|n/a
|
|}

==Trivia==
* In [[The Simpsons]] episode "[[Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade]]", when [[Groundskeeper Willie]] enters [[Bart Simpson|Bart]] and [[Lisa Simpson|Lisa]]'s name on the wall of lost children, two names in particular stand out, Fat Mike and El Hefe.

* NOFX have long derided rural or politically conservative metropolitan areas as backward, racist and closed-minded. The [[California]] city of [[Bakersfield]] seems to embody all the (traditional) values that the band loves to hate. Bakersfield is mentioned in the songs "Leaving Jesusland" and "Instant Crassic" (both from the ''Wolves in Wolves' Clothing'' album), each time in quite negative contexts.

* While sharing a festival bill in Hawaii with [[Riot Grrrl]] band [[Bikini Kill]], Fat Mike dedicated the song "Liza and Louise" to the glaringly feminist Seattle group.<ref>http://www.nofxwiki.net/1999/interviews/bikini.html</ref>.("Liza and Louise" recounts a comical lesbian romance.) NOFX recorded a song called "Kill Rock Stars" (from the album ''So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes'') which admonished Bikini Kill singer [[Kathleen Hanna]] that "you can't change the world by hating men". ([[Kill Rock Stars]] is the name of Hanna's record label.)

* "El Hefe" sounds similar to "El Jefe" (which translates to "The Boss" in Spanish).

* ''[[Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]/[[Dirk Gently]]'' author [[Douglas Adams]] published an installment of the ''Hitchiker's..'' series called ''[[So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish]]'' in [[1984]]. NOFX's [[1997]] release ''So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes'' bears a very similar title. "So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes" also refers to both the large numbers of shoes thrown at the band during concerts and the band's reciept of numerous free endorsment shoes recieved from big brand companies.

* NOFX appears on the character Kong's shirt in [[Ultimate Spider-man]] #14.

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.nofxofficialwebsite.com/ NOFX Official Website]
*[http://www.nofxwiki.net NOFX Wiki]
*[http://www.nofxfans.com/ NOFXFans.com // Great Band! Great Fans!]
*[http://www.nofxonline.com NOFX Online Website]
*[http://www.cimeviola.com/nofx/nofx_home.htm NOFX unofficial Website] (Italian)
*[http://www.nofx.de NOFX Fanpage] (German)
*[http://www.warpedtour.net/banddetail.asp?bandID=174 Warped Tour 2006- NOFX]
*[http://www.punkgigs.com/NOFX NOFX Gigs and tours]
*[http://www.nofx.friko.pl/ NOFX Polish Website]
*[http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid1=5033 NOFX year-by-year history]
*[http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/flipsidenofx.html Flipside Interview] - NOFX interview from 1997
*[http://www.transformonline.com/music/features/004453.php Transform Online interview] - interview from 2005

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Talk:Kangaroo

2007-03-14T08:59:28Z

Didz:

Commandment 1 of this site is "what you post must be truthful and verifiable". Anyone with half a brain knows ID is utter bollocks.

I think we should include both creationist and evolutionist perspectives on kangaroo origins. Conservatives aren't monolithically creationist, and even if that were the case it'd be useful to at least be familiar with the other side's position. --[[User:John|John]] 22:26, 7 March 2007 (EST)

:The evolutionist perspective on kangaroo origins is speculative at best. A Google.com search for "kangaroo evolution" only shows up 221 results, most of which are people selling kangaroo meat! If you think you can explain just what their views are, you're welcome to try. [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 02:28, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::Well there might be slim pickings on the 221 google hits you ran....we might have better luck looking at the roughly 4,000 peer review journal articles on kangaroo and marsupial evolution from http://scholar.google.com [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 02:34, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=kangaroo+evolution+-rat&btnG=Search so we are on the same page. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 02:35, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::If the scientific perspective on kangaroo origins is "speculative", what does that make the religious perspective? [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 05:54, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::::The Truth, perhaps? [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 06:45, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::Well, you are welcome to read through those to tease out the evolutionist perspective on kangaroo origins. Personally, I'd rather read through the [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22intelligent+design%22 7790 peer-reviewed articles] on Intelligent Design (which surely puts the lie to the claim of liberals that ID is not science) [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 06:45, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::::Bah! There is a MUCH easier way of settling this: [http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=kangaroo+evolution&word2=intelligent+design] ........hmmmm okay I guess I do loose. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 11:37, 8 March 2007 (EST)
Most of those are books, not peer reviewed papers. The rest appear to be about engineering, or pointing out the flaws in intelligent design as a biological mechanism (perhaps you should have read the papers before posting that?). Intelligent design proponents are old earth creationists, so they would state that the origins section as currently stands is incorrect. [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 06:58, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:While some ID proponents may have old-earth leanings, Intelligent Design Theory itself is neutral to the age of the earth and merely proposes to detect evidences of intelligent design in life, not the history of the earth and creation. [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 07:16, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::So you concede that "7790 peer-reviewed articles on intelligent design" is not an accurate statement? [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 08:26, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::Tmtoulouse's link above to kangaroo evolution was claimed to be "roughly 4,000 peer review journal articles" but that number includes books and articles not actually about kangaroo evolution. I made my point clearly with the link to search results using an even more stringent criteria of putting quotes around the term. Nematocyte, if you are going to be so knee-jerk hostile to anyone who isn't an evolutionist, perhaps you should go back to Wikipedia. Also, I'm glad you concede your incorrectness about Intelligent Design Theory's earth-age relevance. [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 11:27, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::: I'll presume that you are by this response agreeing that 7790 number is inaccurate. As to the kangaroo number, if you look through the actual citations in that google scholar search on the first page one has easily 3 or four relevant hits that are not books and a slightly larger number on the second page. If that continues one has presumably easily 300 peer reviewed sources. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 11:33, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::::In fact I do not contest that ID is age-neutral. My claim was that ''proponents'' were old-earth creationist, and by "proponents" I mean those who seriously attempt to forward the theory in at least a superficially scientific manner, such as Behe and Dembski, both of whom are old-earthers. [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 11:39, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::::What in the world does that have to do with anything I said above or the topic of kangaroo origins? Again, I think your anti-creation hostility is getting the best of your reason. [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 11:54, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::::::Dear Doctor, it related to your claim of the "7790" ID papers (which I take it you have retracted), and my assertation that those who did forward intelligent design would agree with me anyway. It appears you have no scientific base to speak of for your model of kangaroo origins.

:::::::Using the exact number 7790 was obviously in jest to point out the over-zealousness of the 4000 number. Were you not reading the light-hearted exchange between Tmtoulouse and myself above or were you just looking to pick nits (or a fight)? As to whether some ID proponents share with you errant views on the age of the earth and might speak outside of their specialty vis-à-vis kangaroo origins, that has nothing to do with anything preceding your assertion. Notice I referred to articles on "Intelligent Design", not "Intelligent Design proponents talking about something that isn't Intelligent Design". [[User:Rich P|Dr. Richard Paley]] 12:54, 8 March 2007 (EST)

::::::Incidently, are you the same Dr. Richard Paley I seem to recall reading an infamous article by extolling the evils of the Mac OS and Pokemon [[http://objectiveministries.org/creation/propaganda.html]]? I thought that was satire. [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 12:22, 8 March 2007 (EST)

For the record I wasn't totally serious with my number claim, I was being facetious to make the point that google hits is not a good measure of the potential for information in an entry, and also that the places in which to get your in depth information for the evolution of kangaroos is not personal webpages but rather more scholarly sources, which are available. I think number games are silly, as I hope my google fight post above demonstrates. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 12:05, 8 March 2007 (EST)

Dr. Richard Paley is not a Doctor, and certainly not trustworthy if we're basing everything on Google searches: http://www.lies.com/wp/2002/04/22/dr-richard-paley-on-evolutionist-propaganda/ As a matter of fact he's a hoax, which sadly is very realistic on this site: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/1720/item.name

:I suspected he might have been a hoax when I found the article, but he still seems indistinguishable from many of the other contributors. [[User:Nematocyte|Nematocyte]] 11:14, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

== "religious theories" ==

What is the point of the last paragraph on the kangaroo entry? Yes, australian aboriginal beliefs about the creation of the earth are religious in nature, but how is evolution a "religious theory"?

And more importantly, why can I not edit the page to remove this?

If this project is to be taken seriously, ridiculous comments like that need to be weeded out. [[User:dropkickmejesus|dropkickmejesus]] 22:21, 13 March 2007 (GMT)

:"Ridiculous comments like that" are preciesly what distinguish Conservapedia from pro-liberal sites like Wikipedia, and it's precisely why Conservapedia is so much better. We lack the bias that makes Wikipedia so unreliable. --[[User:Ashens|Ashens]] 04:47, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

== Space Ship Theory ==

I think the origin of the kangaroo should also include discussion of a belief held by many of Riley Martin's followers, the O-Qua Tangin Wann. They believe that Kangaroos originated from the "mothership" from the planet Tan. The alien visitors from Tan visited Earth a few hundred years ago and brought with them a male and female kangaroo. The "mothership" decided after visiting serveral continents that Australia was the best fit for their kangaroo species.

Lay off of the mushrooms. They're not good for you. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 04:48, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

:If some conservatives believe it, we should give it equal time! --[[User:Scrap|Scrap]] 04:52, 14 March 2007 (EDT)
:(And it's at least as believable as the idea that they migrated from the Middle East to Australia without ANY getting off along the way.)