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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* &amp;quot;leading grammatical bit ('s-) can be distracting to the reader...&amp;quot; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did you mean this: [[touché]]? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:24, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''&amp;quot;we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans&amp;quot;''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't call anyone ''stubborn'', I called the behavior of refusing to change the article and refusing to address our arguments without apparent reason to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. Apologies if I had phrased that incorrectly to cause a misunderstanding before. But like AugustO said, let's try and focus on the substance of this issue here and take some action. All this talk is getting rather one-sided. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:49, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== West Point==&lt;br /&gt;
Ed Poor, above you wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used.''&lt;br /&gt;
But here at Conservapedia [[West Point]] redirects to [[United States Military Academy]]. And though their web-site uses the name ''West Point'', the web-site's address is ''www.usma.edu'' (and not www.wp.edu).&lt;br /&gt;
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The same should happen with Den Bosch/'s-Hertogenbosch: the unofficial name (Den Bosch) should redirect to the official name ('s-Hertogenbosch). And it's easy to find out the official name: the city has the web-site ''www.s-hertogenbosch.nl'', while ''www.denbosch.nl'' doesn't exist. It's the other way round with [[The Hague]]: www.denhaag.nl exists, while www.s-gravenhage.nl doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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And please keep in mind that - other than for [[The Hague]] there is no traditional English transliteration which would be quite acceptable as an article's title.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed Poor, you stated on your talk page: ''But I also believe in correcting my mistakes. '' Please correct this mistake of yours and move this article to [['s-Gravenshage]]. You are now informed about the arguments and it shouldn't be necessary to involve other editors with the right to move pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW: calling your position mistaken is just a factual assessment of the whole situation, not an attack on your person.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 05:43, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sooo, since there apparently are no more objections, shall we just move this? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm for moving, but it should be done the right way: using the command &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;move via redirect&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;  which only sysops have. That way, the edit history of the article is preserved - which get muddled if we just copy the article from one place to the other.&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought to wait that [[User:Ed Poor]] (who is a sysop) sees that his position is untenable and moves the article.&lt;br /&gt;
::If this doesn't happen, I'm all for asking another sysop to review the case - perhaps one week after [[User:Ed Poor]]'s last edit on this subject...&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:23, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should be moved to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]. The reason for this move are stated above, and no valid counterargument has been made. Indeed, [[User:Ed Poor]], the only advocate for keeping the article at [[Den Bosch]] seemed to have conceded (''touché'') - until he didn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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For me the whole thing has becoming at litmus-test for Conservapedia: I was ''put on probation'' over this non-issue, at least on other editor was blocked indefinitely. And this over a point which isn't debatable, '' 's-Hertogenbosch'' is the official name of the city, ''Den Bosch'' isn't. There is no conservative or liberal interpretation of this point (as it is the other way round for [[The Hague]]). Is [[User:Ed Poor]] not able to correct his mistake - or at least allow his mistake to be corrected? It's a week since his last edit to this talk-page, so I now ask other sysops to move the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:54, 22 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's been moved by Aschafly. Thanks Aschafly! -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 10:18, 24 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's now &amp;quot;Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; which seems to be wrong as well.  If someone could move it back that would be good.[[User:Cmurphynz|Cmurphynz]] 05:17, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== merge ==&lt;br /&gt;
A merge seems to be unusual and impractical:&lt;br /&gt;
*Conservapedia has many articles on cities, towns and even villages in various countries. Are they all to be merged?&lt;br /&gt;
*Ending up with a list of merged towns and some stand-alones ([[Amsterdam]], etc.) looks untidy&lt;br /&gt;
*Who decides when an article on a town gets important enough to be recreated? To merge some of the towns into the article of the country is a step which has to be undone later again when the sections grow. &lt;br /&gt;
*Editing the article on your home-town is often a starting-point for contributing to an online encyclopedia. &lt;br /&gt;
I don't see any compelling official reason for a merge. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:31, 26 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It just seems like a reaction to that whole name discussion debacle, really. -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 01:48, 26 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The proposal to merge this article (and [[Arnhem]], [[Delft]], [[South Holland]] and [[North Brabant]]) with [[Netherlands]] was made on Jun 26, 2012. I'll wait until Jul 3, 2012: a week should be ample time to state a reason for such a merge. If no reason is given, I'll delete the merge-templates on Jul 3, 2012. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:17, 28 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;leading grammatical bit ('s-) can be distracting to the reader...&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm a reader, I don't find it distracting at all. It's how the name of the town is spelled, right? Why spell it incorrectly for the benefit of people who can't focus enough to read? [[User:JeffreyB|JeffreyB]] 20:58, 10 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a &amp;quot;''Webster's Geographical Dictionary''&amp;quot; that belonged to my parents. It is American (as one would assume from the name) published by &amp;quot;G. &amp;amp; C. Merriam Co., Publishers, Springfield, Mass. U.S.A.&amp;quot; in 1955. I looked up &amp;quot;''Hertogenbosch''&amp;quot;. It said &amp;quot;''See 's Hertogenbosch''.&amp;quot; I think that if something as intrinsically American as Webster's uses the &amp;quot;apostrophe s&amp;quot; spelling as the main heading for the city, then that is what CP should follow. Or is it thought that the modern American is more easily &amp;quot;distracted&amp;quot; than those of the 1950s and should be mollycoddled accordingly? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 00:01, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Very interesting to see &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; being moved to &amp;quot;Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; now. I grant that there are arguments worth considering for moving the article to &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; given that that is a popular name given to the city. But Hertogenbosch is just wrong, there is no place that anyone calls &amp;quot;Hertogenbosch&amp;quot;. The argument given in the edit summary amounts to not much more than &amp;quot;Americans are stupid&amp;quot; - surely nobody here thinks so? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 16:35, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My take on this can be found at [[User talk:Aschlafly#What happens when a senior admin makes a mistake?]] --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 20:11, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If the users that seem to know most about the netherlands all agree that the correct name is s'Hertogenbosch then that should be the name of the article.  If there was a common English name it might be different (like Vienna or Florence) but there isn't one.  I think that there should be some kind of pronunciation guide for english speakers though.[[User:Cmurphynz|Cmurphynz]] 20:22, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Honestly, this is just getting laughable. As stated before, I actually live in 's-Hertogenbosch. It's a very clear cut case on what the only correct and official name is to everybody. There doesn't EXIST any &amp;quot;Hertogenbosch&amp;quot;, even if you google it you'll only get results of the actual name &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot;, including apostrophe, the dash and the s. It has been explained over and over again that there is just one single correct name in both Dutch and English, using many different sources. &lt;br /&gt;
::::However, one admin originally made an understandable mistake on the city's name (who could blame anyone for not knowing the spelling of some town thousands of kilometers away), but instead of correcting it he apparently got real angry and started a huge backlash on all articles concerning the Netherlands and threatening people to respect his admin status on people's talk pages.. I'm sure to get banned for coming to that conclusion but really, it's the only conclusion you can draw from seeing his actions. If there were any other reasons, he could've easily explained them in the many different sections we had on it on this talk page. But he chose to ignore all arguments and reasons. Nothing worse than an admin believing he can use his admin powers to force &amp;quot;being right&amp;quot; :-( --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:00, 12 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Redirect to 's Hertogenbosch ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh! I see there has been a long correspondence about the name of this city - I didn't know. I don't understand why there's any controversy because the city is called 's Hertogenbosch, not Hertogenbosch. I've set up a redirect to handle this.[[User:StaceyT|StaceyT]] 17:22, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know how to rename the Talk page (this page) so it's connected to the correct encyclopedia page, [['s Hertogenbosch]]. Perhaps a more experienced editor could do this? [[User:StaceyT|StaceyT]] 17:22, 11 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did you mean this: [[touché]]? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:24, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''&amp;quot;we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans&amp;quot;''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't call anyone ''stubborn'', I called the behavior of refusing to change the article and refusing to address our arguments without apparent reason to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. Apologies if I had phrased that incorrectly to cause a misunderstanding before. But like AugustO said, let's try and focus on the substance of this issue here and take some action. All this talk is getting rather one-sided. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:49, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== West Point==&lt;br /&gt;
Ed Poor, above you wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used.''&lt;br /&gt;
But here at Conservapedia [[West Point]] redirects to [[United States Military Academy]]. And though their web-site uses the name ''West Point'', the web-site's address is ''www.usma.edu'' (and not www.wp.edu).&lt;br /&gt;
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The same should happen with Den Bosch/'s-Hertogenbosch: the unofficial name (Den Bosch) should redirect to the official name ('s-Hertogenbosch). And it's easy to find out the official name: the city has the web-site ''www.s-hertogenbosch.nl'', while ''www.denbosch.nl'' doesn't exist. It's the other way round with [[The Hague]]: www.denhaag.nl exists, while www.s-gravenhage.nl doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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And please keep in mind that - other than for [[The Hague]] there is no traditional English transliteration which would be quite acceptable as an article's title.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed Poor, you stated on your talk page: ''But I also believe in correcting my mistakes. '' Please correct this mistake of yours and move this article to [['s-Gravenshage]]. You are now informed about the arguments and it shouldn't be necessary to involve other editors with the right to move pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW: calling your position mistaken is just a factual assessment of the whole situation, not an attack on your person.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 05:43, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sooo, since there apparently are no more objections, shall we just move this? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm for moving, but it should be done the right way: using the command &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;move via redirect&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;  which only sysops have. That way, the edit history of the article is preserved - which get muddled if we just copy the article from one place to the other.&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought to wait that [[User:Ed Poor]] (who is a sysop) sees that his position is untenable and moves the article.&lt;br /&gt;
::If this doesn't happen, I'm all for asking another sysop to review the case - perhaps one week after [[User:Ed Poor]]'s last edit on this subject...&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:23, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should be moved to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]. The reason for this move are stated above, and no valid counterargument has been made. Indeed, [[User:Ed Poor]], the only advocate for keeping the article at [[Den Bosch]] seemed to have conceded (''touché'') - until he didn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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For me the whole thing has becoming at litmus-test for Conservapedia: I was ''put on probation'' over this non-issue, at least on other editor was blocked indefinitely. And this over a point which isn't debatable, '' 's-Hertogenbosch'' is the official name of the city, ''Den Bosch'' isn't. There is no conservative or liberal interpretation of this point (as it is the other way round for [[The Hague]]). Is [[User:Ed Poor]] not able to correct his mistake - or at least allow his mistake to be corrected? It's a week since his last edit to this talk-page, so I now ask other sysops to move the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:54, 22 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's been moved by Aschafly. Thanks Aschafly! -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 10:18, 24 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== merge ==&lt;br /&gt;
A merge seems to be unusual and impractical:&lt;br /&gt;
*Conservapedia has many articles on cities, towns and even villages in various countries. Are they all to be merged?&lt;br /&gt;
*Ending up with a list of merged towns and some stand-alones ([[Amsterdam]], etc.) looks untidy&lt;br /&gt;
*Who decides when an article on a town gets important enough to be recreated? To merge some of the towns into the article of the country is a step which has to be undone later again when the sections grow. &lt;br /&gt;
*Editing the article on your home-town is often a starting-point for contributing to an online encyclopedia. &lt;br /&gt;
I don't see any compelling official reason for a merge. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:31, 26 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It just seems like a reaction to that whole name discussion debacle, really. -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 01:48, 26 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:GTac</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Please avoid personal remarks, such as calling someone stubborn. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:11, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry you misinterpreted my comment, I meant to call the behavior of refusing to change position without any arguments to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. It was an argument against the behavior, not against the person. -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 10:24, 24 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Request for move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did you mean this: [[touché]]? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:24, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''&amp;quot;we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans&amp;quot;''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't call anyone ''stubborn'', I called the behavior of refusing to change the article and refusing to address our arguments without apparent reason to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. Apologies if I had phrased that incorrectly to cause a misunderstanding before. But like AugustO said, let's try and focus on the substance of this issue here and take some action. All this talk is getting rather one-sided. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:49, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== West Point==&lt;br /&gt;
Ed Poor, above you wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used.''&lt;br /&gt;
But here at Conservapedia [[West Point]] redirects to [[United States Military Academy]]. And though their web-site uses the name ''West Point'', the web-site's address is ''www.usma.edu'' (and not www.wp.edu).&lt;br /&gt;
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The same should happen with Den Bosch/'s-Hertogenbosch: the unofficial name (Den Bosch) should redirect to the official name ('s-Hertogenbosch). And it's easy to find out the official name: the city has the web-site ''www.s-hertogenbosch.nl'', while ''www.denbosch.nl'' doesn't exist. It's the other way round with [[The Hague]]: www.denhaag.nl exists, while www.s-gravenhage.nl doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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And please keep in mind that - other than for [[The Hague]] there is no traditional English transliteration which would be quite acceptable as an article's title.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed Poor, you stated on your talk page: ''But I also believe in correcting my mistakes. '' Please correct this mistake of yours and move this article to [['s-Gravenshage]]. You are now informed about the arguments and it shouldn't be necessary to involve other editors with the right to move pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW: calling your position mistaken is just a factual assessment of the whole situation, not an attack on your person.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 05:43, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sooo, since there apparently are no more objections, shall we just move this? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm for moving, but it should be done the right way: using the command &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;move via redirect&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;  which only sysops have. That way, the edit history of the article is preserved - which get muddled if we just copy the article from one place to the other.&lt;br /&gt;
::I thought to wait that [[User:Ed Poor]] (who is a sysop) sees that his position is untenable and moves the article.&lt;br /&gt;
::If this doesn't happen, I'm all for asking another sysop to review the case - perhaps one week after [[User:Ed Poor]]'s last edit on this subject...&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:23, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should be moved to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]. The reason for this move are stated above, and no valid counterargument has been made. Indeed, [[User:Ed Poor]], the only advocate for keeping the article at [[Den Bosch]] seemed to have conceded (''touché'') - until he didn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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For me the whole thing has becoming at litmus-test for Conservapedia: I was ''put on probation'' over this non-issue, at least on other editor was blocked indefinitely. And this over a point which isn't debatable, '' 's-Hertogenbosch'' is the official name of the city, ''Den Bosch'' isn't. There is no conservative or liberal interpretation of this point (as it is the other way round for [[The Hague]]). Is [[User:Ed Poor]] not able to correct his mistake - or at least allow his mistake to be corrected? It's a week since his last edit to this talk-page, so I now ask other sysops to move the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:54, 22 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's been moved by Aschafly. Thanks Aschafly! -[[User:GTac|GTac]] 10:18, 24 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989205</id>
		<title>'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
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		<updated>2012-06-24T14:17:24Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;'''`s-Hertogenbosch''' (old Dutch for &amp;quot;the Duke's Wood&amp;quot;; or ''Bois-le-Duc'' in French, ''Herzogenbusch'' in [[German]]) is the capital of the southern Dutch province of [[North Brabant]]. It is also known by the unofficial name &amp;quot;'''Den Bosch'''&amp;quot;. `s-Hertogenbosch gained its city rights in 1185, it was an important center in the [[Middle Ages]] and as late as the sixteenth century was the second-largest city in the present [[Netherlands]]. It suffered during the [[History of the Netherlands#Dutch Revolt 1568-1648|Dutch Wars of Independence]], and later in the 19th century from blinkered municipal authorities who forbade industrial or educational development in the city. This has, however, led to the preservation of an antique townscape which has made `s-Hertogenbosch a tourist center. The most notable tourist attractions are the St. John's Cathedral and the &amp;quot;Bossche bol&amp;quot; (a large chocolate pastry filled with whipped cream).&lt;br /&gt;
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The city has a population of 142,000 as of 2012.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dutch Cities and Towns]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989204</id>
		<title>'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989204"/>
		<updated>2012-06-24T14:16:46Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;'''`s-Hertogenbosch''' (old Dutch for &amp;quot;the Duke's Wood&amp;quot;; or ''Bois-le-Duc'' in French, ''Herzogenbusch'' in [[German]]) is the capital of the southern Dutch province of [[North Brabant]]. It is also known by the unofficial name &amp;quot;'''Den Bosch'''&amp;quot;. `s-Hertogenbosch gained its city rights in 1185, it was an important center in the [[Middle Ages]] and as late as the sixteenth century was the second-largest city in the present [[Netherlands]]. It suffered during the [[History of the Netherlands#Dutch Revolt 1568-1648|Dutch Wars of Independence]], and later in the 19th century from blinkered municipal authorities who forbade industrial or educational development in the city. This has, however, led to the preservation of an antique townscape which has made `s-Hertogenbosch a tourist center. The most notable tourist attractions are the St. John's Cathedral and the &amp;quot;Bossche bol&amp;quot; (a large chocolate pastry filled with whipped cream).&lt;br /&gt;
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The city has a population of 136,000.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dutch Cities and Towns]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989203</id>
		<title>'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989203"/>
		<updated>2012-06-24T14:15:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''`s-Hertogenbosch''' (old Dutch for &amp;quot;the Duke's Wood&amp;quot;; or ''Bois-le-Duc'' in French, ''Herzogenbusch'' in [[German]]) is the capital of the southern Dutch province of [[North Brabant]]. It is also known by the unofficial name &amp;quot;'''Den Bosch'''&amp;quot;. `s-Hertogenbosch gained its city rights in 1185, it was an important center in the [[Middle Ages]] and as late as the sixteenth century was the second-largest city in the present [[Netherlands]]. It suffered during the [[History of the Netherlands#Dutch Revolt 1568-1648|Dutch Wars of Independence]], and later in the 19th century from blinkered municipal authorities who forbade industrial or educational development in the city. This has, however, led to the preservation of an antique townscape which has made `s-Hertogenbosch a tourist center. The most notable tourist attactions are the Sint-Jans cathedral and the &amp;quot;Bossche bol&amp;quot; (a large chocolate pastry filled with whipped cream).&lt;br /&gt;
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The city has a population of 136,000.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dutch Cities and Towns]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989202</id>
		<title>'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989202"/>
		<updated>2012-06-24T14:11:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''`s-Hertogenbosch''' (old Dutch for &amp;quot;the Duke's Wood&amp;quot;; or ''Bois-le-Duc'' in French, ''Herzogenbusch'' in [[German]]) is the capital of the southern Dutch province of [[North Brabant]]. It is also known by the unofficial name &amp;quot;'''Den Bosch'''&amp;quot;. `s-Hertogenbosch gained its city rights in 1185, it was an important center in the [[Middle Ages]] and as late as the sixteenth century was the second-largest city in the present [[Netherlands]]. It suffered during the [[History of the Netherlands#Dutch Revolt 1568-1648|Dutch Wars of Independence]], and later in the 19th century from blinkered municipal authorities who forbade industrial or educational development in the city. This has, however, led to the preservation of an antique townscape which has made Den Bosch a tourist center.&lt;br /&gt;
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The city has a population of 136,000.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dutch Cities and Towns]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989199</id>
		<title>'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=989199"/>
		<updated>2012-06-24T14:07:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''`s-Hertogenbosch''' (old Dutch for &amp;quot;the Duke's Wood&amp;quot;; or ''Bois-le-Duc'' in French, ''Herzogenbusch'' in [[German]]), the capital of the southern Dutch province of [[North Brabant]]. Created a city in 1185, it was an important center in the [[Middle Ages]] and as late as the sixteenth century was the second-largest city in the present [[Netherlands]]. It suffered during the [[History of the Netherlands#Dutch Revolt 1568-1648|Dutch Wars of Independence]], and later in the 19th century from blinkered municipal authorities who forbade industrial or educational development in the city. This has, however, led to the preservation of an antique townscape which has made Den Bosch a tourist center.&lt;br /&gt;
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The city has a population of 136,000.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dutch Cities and Towns]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=988061</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=988061"/>
		<updated>2012-06-21T06:12:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* West Point */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did you mean this: [[touché]]? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:24, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''&amp;quot;we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans&amp;quot;''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't call anyone ''stubborn'', I called the behavior of refusing to change the article and refusing to address our arguments without apparent reason to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. Apologies if I had phrased that incorrectly to cause a misunderstanding before. But like AugustO said, let's try and focus on the substance of this issue here and take some action. All this talk is getting rather one-sided. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:49, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== West Point==&lt;br /&gt;
Ed Poor, above you wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used.''&lt;br /&gt;
But here at Conservapedia [[West Point]] redirects to [[United States Military Academy]]. And though their web-site uses the name ''West Point'', the web-site's address is ''www.usma.edu'' (and not www.wp.edu).&lt;br /&gt;
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The same should happen with Den Bosch/'s-Hertogenbosch: the unofficial name (Den Bosch) should redirect to the official name ('s-Hertogenbosch). And it's easy to find out the official name: the city has the web-site ''www.s-hertogenbosch.nl'', while ''www.denbosch.nl'' doesn't exist. It's the other way round with [[The Hague]]: www.denhaag.nl exists, while www.s-gravenhage.nl doesn't.&lt;br /&gt;
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And please keep in mind that - other than for [[The Hague]] there is no traditional English transliteration which would be quite acceptable as an article's title.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed Poor, you stated on your talk page: ''But I also believe in correcting my mistakes. '' Please correct this mistake of yours and move this article to [['s-Gravenshage]]. You are now informed about the arguments and it shouldn't be necessary to involve other editors with the right to move pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW: calling your position mistaken is just a factual assessment of the whole situation, not an attack on your person.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 05:43, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sooo, since there apparently are no more objections, shall we just move this? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:12, 21 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986894</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986894"/>
		<updated>2012-06-17T06:49:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Did you mean this: [[touché]]? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:24, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As an American (although I've been living in Europe for several years now), I do not find the official name confusing at all. Out of respect (a conservative value) for other people, other cultures and other languages, I also support moving the article back to 's-Hertogenbosch. Having &amp;quot;Den Bosch&amp;quot; redirect to &amp;quot;'s-Hertogenbosch&amp;quot; is fine and surely required, but also sufficient given that it just an inofficial name. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 12:08, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Ed Poor]], you have read [[User:GTac]]'s comment - as you object to his use of ''stubbornness'' on his [[User talk:GTac|talk page]]. Why not addressing the substance of his comment - and just move [[Den Bosch]] to [['s-Hertogenbosch]] via redirect? Give your American compatriots some credit (''&amp;quot;we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans&amp;quot;''), some may even enjoy the leading apostrophe!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:52, 16 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't call anyone ''stubborn'', I called the behavior of refusing to change the article and refusing to address our arguments without apparent reason to be &amp;quot;seemingly stubborn&amp;quot;. Apologies if I had phrased that incorrectly to cause a misunderstanding before. But like AugustO said, let's try and focus on the substance of this issue here and take some action. All this talk is getting rather one-sided. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:49, 17 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986561</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986561"/>
		<updated>2012-06-15T15:42:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[United_States_of_America|this article]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986496</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986496"/>
		<updated>2012-06-15T06:13:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If the society isn't worth writing about, then I don't suppose their cause is worth bothering with; so we should keep using the page title that's easiest for us Americans. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Hahaha, but that doesn't make any sense. You're going to use the wrong, unofficial name because it's not interesting to write an entire article about a society which promotes the official name? So what if that society '''''didn't exist at all''''', would that mean you'd automatically go for the incorrect names for articles? Maybe you should rename [[this article|United_States_of_America]] to just USA, it's a lot easier to type! Also, as it was set up before the name Den Bosch would redirect to the 's-Hertogenbosch page, so that wouldn't really be too hard to use for Americans. Ed Poor, is there some kind of reason you keep fighting to use the incorrect name? AugustO showed you that the official correct naming is 's-Hertogenbosch, I've confirmed it as a local, I've shown you that there are even people working to promote use of the official proper name, yet you refuse to change it for no other apparent reason than seeming pure stubbornness, which I don't really get.. It's not like this is a debatable issue anywhere else. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 02:13, 15 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986239</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986239"/>
		<updated>2012-06-14T17:45:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
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:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;[[West Point]]&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
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Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about the campaign to promote the official name. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What do you want to know about them? They're called the ''Genootschap ter bevordering van het gebruik van de naam 's-Hertogenbosch'' (the society for the promotion of the name 's-Hertogenbosch) and their mission is to promote the proper use of the official name for clarity and for historical reasons. They have [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Genootschap-ter-bevordering-van-het-gebruik-van-de-naam-s-Hertogenbosch/159558774142645 a facebook] and [http://www.s-hertogenboschalstublieft.nl/ a website]. They seem to be a bunch of local guys (big surprise), so not sure what you want to know about them. I don't think they're important enough to put in an article, though they're a good indication on how people are very serious about the proper use and spelling of official names. &lt;br /&gt;
:So let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else translated here. To be honest I don't really understand what the problem is here in the first case. It's an obvious fact that the official name is 's-Hertogenbosch, so why not change the article's name? --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 13:45, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986214</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986214"/>
		<updated>2012-06-14T15:37:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
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:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;West Point&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
::''Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing?'' Sorry if I hurt your feeling. My, these New Yorkers are delicate flowers :-)&lt;br /&gt;
::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
::Does this have anything to do with your decision to put me on ''probation'' - an act to which I object. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For clarification: I didn't move the content of the article to [['s Hertogenbosch]] - this was another editor. Unfortunately this can't be seen any longer as the edit history of the new article was deleted (somewhat ironic, as Ed Poor stated in his comment on the deletion log that such a thing is a ''violation of core wiki rule: preserving edit history'')&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:Ed Poor]], if you start to threaten editors with blocks and probations, please make sure to address the right ones.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm starting to expect something more than a simple ''sorry'', btw. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:25, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:Ed Poor]], as long as [[User talk:Ed Poor]] is protected, comments like mine above will pop up on various talk-pages, even if they are only marginally related with the subject at hand. I'm for instance still interested in what my '''first strike''' was - could you please tell me? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 00:02, 12 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Graag bedankt! What are the odds... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:18, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there are more than 140k people living here, so the odds aren't infinitesimal :-). --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:37, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986209</id>
		<title>Talk:'s-Hertogenbosch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:%27s-Hertogenbosch&amp;diff=986209"/>
		<updated>2012-06-14T15:15:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Article move */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Should be merged into some other article, such as [[The Netherlands]]. Appears to have been created only because of it's odd spelling: it begins with a punctuation mark. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:37, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:''kind of weird to start an article with a punctuation mark'' well, it's a quirk of the Dutch language: look at [[The Hague]] a.k.a. '' 's Gravenshage'', or the '' 't Hooft operator'' in theoretical physics. But while ''Den Haag'' is the official name of '' 's Gravenshage'', with ''Den Bosch'' and '' 's Hertogenbosch'' it is the other way around.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:So the move is akin to redirecting ''New York'' to ''The Big Apple.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:And ''Den Bosch'' just means ''The Forest'', not ''The Duke's Forest'' - ''Hertog'' / ''Herzog'' is duke. The '' 's'' is the relict of the article indicating the genitive: ''Des Hertogens Bosch'' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the web-site of 's Hertogenbosch, you won't find the informal name ''Den Bosch'' prominently on display: http://www.s-hertogenbosch.nl/ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:58, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::You want to take charge of our Dutch geography articles? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:21, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's too big a task (and too desolate a field, I'm afraid). I'm just correcting errors where I find them. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:25, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*the capital of the province of Noord-Brabant is usually called &amp;quot;Den Bosch,&amp;quot; but the full, official name is &amp;quot; 's-Hertogenbosch &amp;quot; (The Duke's Forest.) [http://www.heardutchhere.net/NLPresent.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you want to mention the official name, go ahead. (Also, it's more like calling the army's main training college &amp;quot;West Point&amp;quot;, when it has a longer and more official name that is hardly ever used. It's not like calling New York the Big Apple. I live in New York and hardly ever hear that. Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:30, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*The city's official name is a contraction of the Dutch des Hertogen bosch—&amp;quot;the Duke's forest&amp;quot; (Wikipedia) {{unsigned|Ed Poor}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed, 's-Hertogenbosch is a contraction of ''des Hertogen bosch''. I mentioned that above. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:53, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::''Why would you say such and odd and untrue thing?'' Sorry if I hurt your feeling. My, these New Yorkers are delicate flowers :-)&lt;br /&gt;
::When someone talks about the ''Big Apple'', everyone knows that ''New York'' is meant. That's neither ''odd'' nor ''untrue''. But this moniker is not the official name of the city, or a generally accepted abbreviation.&lt;br /&gt;
::Take a look at the official home-page of 's Hertogenbosch: you won't find ''Den Bosch'' mentioned. Take a look at the Dutch wikipage of [http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27s-Hertogenbosch 's Hertogenbosch]: the first section is about the name...&lt;br /&gt;
:::''De naam Den Haag is officieel toegestaan. Men ziet die naam op wegwijzers en bij de spoorwegen. Voor Den Bosch ligt dat anders: de enige officiële naam is 's-Hertogenbosch. Ook in andere talen wordt 's-Hertogenbosch met de lange naam aangeduid: Bois-le-Duc in het Frans, Boscoducale in het Italiaans, Bolduque in het Spaans en Herzogenbusch in het Duits. De Latijnse naam is Silva Ducis of Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::That means something like&lt;br /&gt;
:::''The name ''Den Haag'' is officially accepted. You find this name on road signs and at railways. This is different for ''Den Bosch'': the only official name is  's-Hertogenbosch. In other languages the long name is also used: Bois-le-Duc in French, Boscoducale in Italian, Bolduque in Spanish en Herzogenbusch in German. The  Latin name is Silva Ducis or Buscum Ducis.''&lt;br /&gt;
::BTW, the existence of so many translations of the name are an indicator of the historical importance of the city.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:51, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Supporting AugustO. 's Hertogenbosch is used almost everywhere the official is required, e.g. railway timetables and road signs. But Den Bosch is usually used in informal conversation. [[User:PenelopeP|PenelopeP]] 17:29, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::[[St Petersburg]] might be a good parallel. The Russians who live there generally just refer to it as &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;, or sometimes &amp;quot;Petersburg&amp;quot;. But the official name is Saint Petersburg and indeed the Conservapedia article is under that name. It would be confusing to list the article under &amp;quot;Peter&amp;quot;!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:22, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::On the other hand, maybe it's more like [[Hull]]. In full, the town is Kingston upon Hull, but that is rarely used and even [http://www.hullcc.gov.uk the local council's website] just uses Hull. The Conservapedia page is actually entitled [[Kingston upon Hull]], but I think there would be a ''reasonably'' strong case for just using Hull, especially if Den Bosch is kept here.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 05:28, 13 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Conversation in Edit Comments==&lt;br /&gt;
''error? what error? This is like moving ''The United States'' to ''United States''''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Hertogenbosch'' is akin to moving ''The United States of America'' to ''The United States America'' - you are losing the genitive. Moving '' 's Hertogenbosch'' to ''Den Bosch'' is like moving ''''The United States of America'' to ''States''. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:LOL, touché. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:38, 9 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Article move ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
... could you move this article back to [['s-Hertogenbosch]]? I would have asked you at [[User talk:Ed Poor]], but unfortunately, that page is protected.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 10 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Didn't you read my objections above? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:23, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I read your objections. Frankly, I took your last comment (''touché'') as a concession to my objections. Nevertheless, I left the decision to move the article to you, but you really should to it: it's the right thing.&lt;br /&gt;
::Does this have anything to do with your decision to put me on ''probation'' - an act to which I object. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For clarification: I didn't move the content of the article to [['s Hertogenbosch]] - this was another editor. Unfortunately this can't be seen any longer as the edit history of the new article was deleted (somewhat ironic, as Ed Poor stated in his comment on the deletion log that such a thing is a ''violation of core wiki rule: preserving edit history'')&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:Ed Poor]], if you start to threaten editors with blocks and probations, please make sure to address the right ones.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm starting to expect something more than a simple ''sorry'', btw. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:25, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:Ed Poor]], as long as [[User talk:Ed Poor]] is protected, comments like mine above will pop up on various talk-pages, even if they are only marginally related with the subject at hand. I'm for instance still interested in what my '''first strike''' was - could you please tell me? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 00:02, 12 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I actually currently live in `s-Hertogenbosch. Both names are commonly used (in writing the Den Bosch variant is more often used because it's just easier to type), but the official name is `s-Hertogenbosch. A lot of people don't care that much either way, but some take it very seriously indeed. There's a whole committee to promote the proper use of the official name. This is why you won't find the informal name listed on any official sources. --[[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:15, 14 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Counterexamples_to_Global_Warming&amp;diff=892566</id>
		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Counterexamples_to_Global_Warming&amp;diff=892566"/>
		<updated>2011-07-23T19:44:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Global warming]] is the theory that the earth is gradually warming up due to human influence. Unusual cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal|liberals]] that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Global warming]] is the theory that the earth is gradually warming up due to human influence. Unusual cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal|liberals]] that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Global warming]] is the theory that the earth is gradually warming up due to human influence. Unusual cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal|liberals]] that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Global warming]] is the theory that the earth is gradually warming up due to human influence. Unusual cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberals|liberal]] that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Global warming]] is the theory that the earth is gradually warming up due to human influence. Unusual cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberals liberal]] that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* South America */ removing nonsensical link&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-10749124 Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather has caused [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops] in early February 2011. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In February 2011, [http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-weather-sanfrancisco-idUSTRE71P1NH20110226 some parts of San Francisco witnessed snow], though it was too little to count for an official measurement. San Francisco has not witnessed a recordable snow fall since 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug any more?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bisects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Counterexamples_to_Global_Warming&amp;diff=888522</id>
		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T15:32:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T15:31:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the communist and atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog during the winter of 2011 which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] during the winter of 2011, proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] during the winter of 2011, proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Indian Subcontinent and Asia */ updating&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people], proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Russian Landmass */ I really think we shouldn't put predictions in here, this is another one I can't verify actually happening.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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A severe cold [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ was expected by Dr. Ryan N. Maue to hit Russia in February 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Counterexamples_to_Global_Warming&amp;diff=888514</id>
		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T15:13:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Warm Weather Patterns */ trying to rephrase a sentence with triple negatives&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]]. Warm weather does not change the fact that record cold weather disproves global warming.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T15:07:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* Better focus of efforts on global warming issue */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Better focus of efforts on global warming issue  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Conservapedia's global warming article needs a revamp so I think time would be better spent improving Conservapedia's [[global warming]] article. I suggest the same with the [[Medieval Warm Period]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also suggest the below articles be created as I think people would be more interested in them. I think this would be a much better use of time in terms of informing the public on the global warming issue. &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming facts]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming causes]] (from time to time the world does increase in temperature)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming effects]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Consequences of global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming hoax]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Climate change and global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming myth]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming scam]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Causes and effects of global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Facts against global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming skeptics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming statistics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Arguments against global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Global warming news articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Climate change vs. global warming]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope this helps. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 17:33, 1 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why can't you just put that in the global warming article. It seems needlessly redundant to create a whole bunch of articles, it won't do anything but create a mess. [[User:GTac|GTac]] 11:07, 12 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
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Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* See also */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
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Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
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Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkScience|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GTac</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Counterexamples_to_Global_Warming&amp;diff=888506</id>
		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T15:01:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* See also */ makes more sense to link directly&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.JunkScience.org JunkScience.org] [[JunkSciene|(Our wiki entry on JunkScience.org)|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T14:57:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* See also */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ Find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ find the temperature in almost any city]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* See also */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.accuweather.com/ find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* See also */ this site has more options&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
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But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.accuweather.com/ (find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* North America/United States */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record-breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wunderground.com/ (find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* North America/United States */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many record breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years:&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wunderground.com/ (find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* North America/United States */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many record breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====China====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wunderground.com/ (find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Counterexamples to Global Warming</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-12T14:52:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;GTac: /* North America/United States */ looks like this used to be trailing something?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:GlobalTemps June2009.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Despite an increase in atmospheric CO2, the earth has been cooling slightly for the past decade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are counterexamples to global warming. Unusually cold weather disproves the politically motivated claim by [[liberal]]s that the [[Earth]] is rapidly warming.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Liberal bias]] is severe for this issue: the [[lamestream media]] are far more likely to report on unusually hot weather than unusually cold weather.&lt;br /&gt;
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(Please feel free to expand.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cold Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
====North America/United States====&lt;br /&gt;
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Many  record breaking cold temperatures and snowstorms have occurred in the last 10 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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*About as many snowfalls have occurred in Florida in the past 10 years as in the 100 years before that.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the first half of 2011, West Coast temperature have been consistently running at least 10-15 degrees below normal.  Could [[God]] be trying to tell [[Left Coast]] liberals something?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In Truckee-Tahoe in the second half of June 2011, every day the temperatures have been colder than normal, '''''often nearly 30 degrees below average'''''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KTRK/2011/5/30/MonthlyHistory.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Though unreported by the [[lamestream media]], temperatures in [[New Jersey]] at the beginning of July 2011 are about ten degrees below normal.&lt;br /&gt;
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*In January 2010, &amp;quot;coldest weather in 12 years hits North Texas.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Coldest-Weather-in-12-Years-Descends-on-North-Texas-80828417.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*In early February 2011, snow and ice pummeled Dallas and Houston, Texas, in a nearly unprecedented fashion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-04/houston-gripped-by-ice-under-winter-storm-forecast-to-turn-toward-new-york.html?nstrack=sid:5028563|met:104|cat:247|order:1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*February 2010, 241-mile Lake Erie was completely frozen over for the first time in 14 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100213/NEWS02/302129904&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Lake Michigan had not frozen over since the 1970s until ... 2009, when it froze over, and then again in 2010 and 2011.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[New York City]] had its sixth-largest snowstorm '''''ever''''' on the day after [[Christmas]] in 2010, and the [[liberals]] in charge were unprepared.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/snow_and_snowstorms/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Is it going to [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=280&amp;amp;linkbox=true snow on the city by the bay?] Where's your scissor lift now, Mister Gore? Perhaps you would prefer a mine shaft?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Meteorologists did a thirty-year study of California forecast data. 75% of measurement sites saw a reduction in temperatures. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/long-term-california-cooling-trend-blamed-on-global-warming/ Long-term California Cooling Trend Blamed on Global Warming, Gateway Pundit, July 6, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Australia====&lt;br /&gt;
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In spite of predictions, 2011 is shaping up to be a cold year for [[Australia]]. It saw the [http://www.qt.com.au/story/2011/06/24/ipswich-shivers-on-years-coldest-day/ coldest day on record for the east], the [http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/coldest-june-night-on-record-20100628-zdz9.html coldest June on record in the west], the [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html coldest May on record in the north], only *almost* record breaking [http://www.smh.com.au/national/coldest-may-on-record-for-darwin-20110531-1fe1x.html in the middle of the country], likewise for the [http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/05/31/260901_news.html south] and nationally it was [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/season/aus/summary.shtml the coldest Autumn on record, ever].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But, but, but global warming! Maybe the west should burn ''more'' fossil fuels to heat things up? Or maybe they can use the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even SMH, a notoriously Liberal men's magazine, is asking [http://globalfreeze.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/australia-wakes-to-a-deep-freeze/ &amp;quot;Where's my Global Warming, Dude?&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Europe====&lt;br /&gt;
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The North-Western part of the European continent had [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/snow-brings-parts-of-britain-to-a-standstill-2144267.html an unusually cold November and December in 2010], leaving even the most convinced &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; believer to ask &amp;quot;If everything is heating up and we're all going to die in a matter of a few years, why have these months been so cold!?&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The global-warming alarmist &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot;: [http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe/ &amp;quot;It's hotter, therefore it's colder. No really!&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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====South America====&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://andyrussell.wordpress.com/2011/01/06/why-has-this-winter-been-so-cold-in-europe Cold waves in Peru are so bad they have to issue safety warnings about them.]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Rowan from the American Thinker asks, [http://arcticsnap.com/index.php?id=65&amp;amp;linkbox=true&amp;amp;position=7 will 2011 be the year without Summer?]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirty-two inches of snow fell on the driest place on earth, the Atacama Desert in [[Chile]].  They record less than 50mm of rain per year, 80cm of snow July 2011. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://beforeitsnews.com/story/792/905/32_Inches_Of_Snow_Falls_In_Driest_Place_On_Earth.html 32 Inches Of Snow Falls In Driest Place On Earth!, beforeitsnews, July 7, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Indian Subcontinent and Asia====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Delhi, which is experiencing one of its coldest winters in years, has been hit by thick fog which disrupted flights, [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12125207 closed schools] and killed [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8438879.stm dozens of people] proving that even the Indian subcontinent is [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12106386 not immune to the cold wave sweeping over the globe for 2011].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even the BBC, a Liberal media bastion, is [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8439136.stm showing the pictures for all to see]. Is even the mainstream media abandoning &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot;, or is the evidence too much for them to sweep under the rug anymore?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, the Communist and Atheist nation of North Korea (known as the DPRK) is [http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/korea/2011/02/02/289892/N-Korea.htm freezing their little Atheist toes off]. The cold is so bad that the river that bysects Pyongyang has frozen over. &lt;br /&gt;
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The cold appears to be universal, among industrial and non-industrial nations alike. Is it really ''carbon'' causing these events? And why are there no answers from the &amp;quot;global warming&amp;quot; community about the obvious inconsistencies in their theories?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Central America====&lt;br /&gt;
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In Mexico the unseasonably cold weather is causing [http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3766 significant destruction of crops]. If it's so cold that corn can't survive, why do people keep claiming the planet is warming up?&lt;br /&gt;
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====Russian Landmass====&lt;br /&gt;
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Even by Russian standards, severe cold is [http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/15/russian-winter-severe-cold-to-invade-moscow-and-eastern-europe/ going to invade Moscow and Eastern Europe]. Things will get down to near -30°F in Moscow with surrounding areas -40° to -50°F, in a cold snap that will extend all the way east to Siberia.&lt;br /&gt;
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The famous Russian cold defeated Napoleon's armies, perhaps it will defeat the armies of Al Gore too?&lt;br /&gt;
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====China====&lt;br /&gt;
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Chaos in China as a cold snap there [http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-01/05/c_13677854.htm freezes over the highways, raises food price and causes Atheistic toes to curl]. Is there any part of the world actually affected by global warming? Going simply by the law of averages, at least *somewhere* must be getting warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Warm Weather Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Warm weather patterns are fully expected in the absence of [[global warming]]. With global warming we wouldn't expect cold weather patterns, because the earth would be warmer.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[lamestream media]] publicize reports of hot weather, but that is utterly ineffective in trying to prove the existence of [[global warming]].  None of warm weather contradicts the fact that record cold temperatures disprove the claim that the world is becoming rapidly and dangerously warmer.  All the following would still be expected without [[global warming]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/34756/moscow-breaks-alltime-high-tem.asp?partner=accuweather Moscow]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/feb/18/tri-cities-area-ties-all-time-record-high-thursday-ar-851560/ Tennessee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/04/syracuses_temperature_sets_his.html Syracuse]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-30/high-temperatures-hit-records-for-towns-in-oklahoma-arkansas.html Oklahoma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.kwes.com/story/14931869/record-high-temperatures West Texas], [http://capitalclimate.blogspot.com/2011/06/texas-toasted-20-all-time-record-high.html including the all-time record high in Amarillo, TX]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.lsureveille.com/news/baton-rouge-facing-record-high-temperatures-1.2601916 Louisiana]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wctv.tv/weather/headlines/105_DEGREES_Tallahassee_Sets_New_All-Time_Record_High_123943144.html Tallahassee]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/06/28/52485345.html  Western Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://english.sina.com/china/p/2011/0517/373689.html China]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://lubbockonline.com/sports/2011-06-26/record-temperatures-dont-stop-competitors-ironman South Africa]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KICT/2011/6/9/WeeklyHistory.html Wichita, Kansas (temperature rose above 100 F around midnight)]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Random temperature fluctuations, including those above, would occur in the absence of [[global warming]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== General Climate Patterns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Although Global warming should be causing massive droughts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.naturalnews.com/020649.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; massive flooding along the Mississippi river in 2011 has resulted in many deaths as well as billions in property damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Gore Effect ==&lt;br /&gt;
Often, when a climate conference is held, a new record low temperature is set for that location. Maybe [[God]] is trying to send the alarmists a message? In light of the global cold snap all around the world, perhaps the message extends beyond Al Gore?&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the Cancun climate conference, record low temperatures in the low 50s were set on three consecutive days. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/gore-effect-strikes-cancun-climate-conference-3-days-in-a-row/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:GoreFireBreathing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wunderground.com/ (find the temperature in almost any city)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://climate.rutgers.edu/stateclim_v1/norms/daily/index.html Daily Station Normals (extensive historical temperature data at NJ weather stations)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.surfacestations.org/ Surface Stations]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wattsupwiththat.com/ Watts Up With That]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/Climsum.html Western U.S. Climate Historical Summaries (find climate statistics for thousands of locations in the western United States)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ Science and Public Policy Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[JunkScience.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.globalclimatescam.com/ Global Warming Scam]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html NOAA Satellite &amp;amp; Information Service]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1871503 PDF: The Tragedy of the Risk-Perception Commons: Culture Conflict, Rationality Conflict, and Climate Change]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Counterexamples]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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