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Muhammad Ali

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[[Image:Reagan and Ali photo.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Reagan and Ali]]
'''Muhammed Ali''' was the adopted name of '''Cassius Clay''' (b. 1942). He is a retired American boxer and former three-time World Heavyweight Champion; possibly the most famous [[boxing|boxer]] of all time. Through his career Ali had 61 professional fights and went 56-5. Giving up his heavyweight title when he refused to go to fight in the [[Vietnam War]], Ali lost important years in his prime. Coming back after he was allowed to return to boxing, Ali beat the heavily favored [[George Foreman]] in the famous "Rumble in the Jungle," a bout held in 1974 in Kinshasa. It was Ali's first use of the "Rope-A-Dope" strategy, where he covered up and allowed his opponent to tire himself out with useless punching. Ali's most famous line during his fighting days was, "I'll be floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee."

Always undersized for a heavyweight, Ali made good use of his speed and technical boxing skills. His skills started to erode quickly once he reached a certain age and he lost his title to a lightly regarded [[Leon Spinks]], who went on to become a footnote in boxing history. Ali took the title back in a lackluster decision, but retired soon thereafter. He tried to make a comeback against then champion [[Larry Holmes]], but out of shape and past his best fighting years, Ali's corner threw in the towel between rounds in the middle of the fight.

After his boxing career, Ali was diagnosed with [[Parkinson's disease]]. Whether this was caused by his boxing is currently a subject of debate.

Ali was not without controversy in his career. In his rematch with [[Sonny Liston]] after taking the heavyweight title for the first time, Ali knocked out Liston in the first round with what has come to be called a "phantom punch". In other words no one is exactly sure what made Liston go down, but it doesn't appear to have been Ali.

'''Muhammad Ali''' was also the name of the [[Egyptian]] ruler who, along with his son, Ismail, arranged for the [[French]] to build the [[Suez Canal]].

==See also==
*[[Sport]]
*[[Knockout]]

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[[Category:Boxers]]
[[Category:Muslims]]

Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton

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==Photo==

Whoever selected the picture seems to have deliberately tried to find an unattractive one. Sorry, but conservative bias is just as bad as liberal bias.
: I disagree. This is '"Conservapedia" and I don't mind a conservative bias. I'm tired of the liberal bias everywhere else and liberals trying to get rid of anything they don't agree with. I'm annoyed at seeing Hillary's smiling, happy face on all the other sites and I'm happy to see this picture. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]][[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]] 13:27, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Do you know why bias (any bias) is bad in the first place? Becuase it makes us ignorant to the true state of the world. The cost of saying that "in my bias, slavery, the holocaust, and the murder and marginalization of the american indians never happened" is you are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. Has hillary made mistakes? sure! We all have. But no one's life is doomed to only their mistakes and failures, no matter how much that's all we care to see.

Bias, no matter where it comes from, is inevitable. We're all humans, we all have ideas, we can't help but convey at least a little of our ideas through what we do. So we may as well give up, for the most part, on trying to be impartial, because it's not really going to work anyway. As for ignorance, a person needs to be exposed to alot of bias before they can gain a good idea of the "true state of the world." --[[User:StevenM]] 11:52 Oct 10 2007

Did someone suggest that Hillary could be anything other than unattractive? LOL. The picture here is better than fair. --[[User:Bob Arctor|Bob Arctor]] 22:47, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

I'm trying so hard not to make a crude joke about that. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 22:48, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Huh? The criticism of Hillary Clinton consists entirely of a poll? [[User:Kolbe|Kolbe]] 23:12, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Most people it seems are made or broken based on their polls, even if the people polled do not understand the questions they are being polled on. [[User:TheComputerWizard|TheComputerWizard]]

== Presidential Campaign 2008 ==
I think what she meant that no mother had been a MAJOR candidate for president. The correction is basically of very minor importance.[[User:Alloco1|Alloco1]] 19:15, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

RObS entire new addition regarding Hillary's possible "clinical condition" should be removed as gossip at best. The cited reference is a conservative website that references a book written by someone with no medical training, and yet we are to accept her as an authority on Hillary's possible mental illness? This is just a baseless smear. [[User:QNA|QNA]] 12:08, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
:Baseless smear? Since when do smears need a base? It has been well documented, for instance, what an idiot George W. Bush is, without foundation. For example, Google Bush+idiot brings up 1,590,000 hits. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush%2Bidiot] [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:11, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

It may be true that some people call people names but reputable encyclopedias do not. The Wikipedia entry on George W. Bush does not call him an idiot and does not offer anyones psycho-analysis of his character. I may not like it that the entire article is devoted to creating a negative perception of Hillary Clinton but at least most of it is seems factual. If you want to be taken seriously at all, you should remove paragraph.[[User:Wismike|Wismike]]

:Oh really? What's this? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_on_the_Couch Bush on the Couch] and this [http://www.counterpunch.org/wormer1011.html Addiction, Brain Damage and the President] or this [http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/April05/slime-mold.Bush.Cheney.ssl.html Slime Mold Beetle named for Bush] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agathidium_rumsfeldi] All this found its way into the GW mainspace. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:40, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

The articles that you are citing are not part of the article on George W. Bush in Wikipedia. The "Bush on the Couch" article describes a book by that name and has a section that presents pro and con criticism of that book. The other articles aren't part of Wikipedia at all. Wikipedia has a whole section of books about George Bush and Hillary Clinton and divides them neatly into pro and con categories. [[User:Wismike|Wismike]]
:Go into the histories and you will find them. And you will also find a string of corpses from RfC's and Community banning of editors who protested that garbage for as long it stood. Sure, the trash was taken out after people who protested were banned for protesting it. That is the Wikiopedia way. And frrankly, at this point I don't care. It did it's damage when Bush still had better poll numbers, so obviously kicking the old boy when he's down seems cruel, doesn't it? Timing, is everything. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:03, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
I find it interesting that RobS justifies smearing Clinton in this article on the basis of smears against George Bush he alleges to have found on the internet at large. Sounds like he's got a small chip on his shoulder that is having a negative affect on his editorial policies. NitramNos 13:57, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
:I didn't say it, it's a reputable citation. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:06, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

The list of "intriguing" symptoms Buchanan purported to include in her endnotes -- specifically endnote 74, Chapter 1 -- appears to be missing from the book entirely. Buchanan does not reference her study of "narcissistic personality style" elsewhere in the book.

Additionally, Fox and MSNBC failed to identify Buchanan as a senior adviser for Republican presidential candidate Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO). Buchanan's biography on the back of the book's dust jacket also fails to note her role as an adviser for Tancredo's campaign. The back cover includes a note of praise from Tancredo.

Human Events and Regnery Publishing are both subsidiaries of Eagle Publishing, a "leading conservative publishing company."

== Recommend ==

[[Conservapedia:Manual of Style/Politicians]] - [[User:Myk|Myk]] 02:21, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

==A genuine classic==
For you serious students of politics, and others who worship at the alter of public opinion polls, this Poll is a classic in the genre of public opinion molding and shaping. You just gotta love the choices given respondents,

*Very corrupt
*Somewhat corrupt
*Not very corrupt
*Not at all corrupt

Can we suppose the key idea here must be "corrupt"? and what influence do you suppose the wording may have had on the findings of the poll? [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:56, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

==For those who dislike this woman==
I have a funny picture i would like to share with you all (espically those who dont like her): [http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jul2003/BabyPunch.jpg funny pic] --[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 12:02, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
: Hah. We can all find ''hilarious'' photoshoppings on the internet. We should probably also not try and look for the worst pictures of someone for their article - not too bad here, but the [[Al Gore]] article - eugh. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

== Hillary ==

Senator Clinton is the best Democratic candidate for President in the upcoming election.

Past both biases. You can't just insert opinion pieces into a "factual" article. If you want to be "conservative" in your writing, then get rid of the political/ideological opinion. This is ridiculous for a website that presupposes itself to be more factual than wikipedia.

== Her Friend, Dick Morris? ==

orly? [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 13:53, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

*Dick was always more Bill's friend that Hillary's...but the truth is, for the first several years, until Morris wised-up, they were indeed calling each other friends. Now I think it safe to say he detests everything about her, while still liking Bill. I am missing the reference. Help! --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 14:03, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

:I can't find any ref that he gets along with either of them, or has for years. As far as I can tell, they fell out years ago and Morris now makes a tidy living crapping all over the Clintons. And before anybody says it, I really don't CARE about the Clintons being pooped on, I just was curious if there was any reason to characterize Morris as anything other than a political enemy of Clinton at this point? [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 15:07, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

::Ok, so we've talked about "her friend" being inaccurate here on the talk page, as is suggested at the top of the article. What's the next step? I don't want to overwhelm the page with suggestions that could get lost in a shuffle... [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 10:59, 20 September 2007 (EDT) ''<-shut up and deal...''

== Corrections for this article ==

Well, for some reason I can't edit the article myself. However, I am Hillary Clinton. Your article characterizes me as a conspiracy theorist, which is unfair. I did not knowingly accept money from Peter Paul, but I have asked my staff to return the money which he supposedly donated if it is found that he is telling the truth. I do condemn the smear campaign on General Petraeus, which was clearly inappropriate. I am not an irresponsible cut-and-runner. I voted for and supported Barry Goldwater in 1964, though today I consider myself a moderate. I request that Conservapedia correct my article as it is rather offensive to me at the moment. [[User:HClinton|HClinton]] 20:14, 9 November 2007 (EST)

:Would you be willing to answer the question [[Ann Coulter]] posed:
::"How about having [[Tim Russert]] ask Hillary if she believes the [[New Testament]] is the [[perfection]] of the [[Old Testament]]? She claims to be a [[Christian]]. Let's get it on the table: Is she or isn't she? It doesn't get any more bare-bones than that.<ref>[http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23174 ''Human Events''], October 31, 2007.</ref>
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Rob, I don't see how an Ann Coulter quote you've dragged up is relevant to HClinton's suggestions. If you're curious, I would suggest posing such questions on her talk page instead. The talk pages for articles at Conservapedia, however, should remain on topic as much as possible. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 10:57, 10 November 2007 (EST)

*I hate to be a "party pooper", but when the ''real'' Hillary Clinton brought over danish this morning, she told me she had never registered with Conservapedia. Imagine my shock and dismay upon her telling me that face-to-face! I was absolutely crushed! Accordingly I have removed the parodist user. --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 11:33, 10 November 2007 (EST)

Fair enough... I suppose it's all irrelevant then. In any case, TK can always just ask her himself. XD [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 13:56, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:*Indeed I did! And like the user pretending to be Hillary, ''the real Hillary'' objected to being called a "cut-and-runner as well. She wanted to make sure everyone at CP, indeed in the United States, knows that long before she supported the War in Iraq, she opposed it, and vocally, just as she has since deciding she was duped by that evil President George Bush, with his conspiracy to launch World War III.
:*And in speaking of conspiracies, she also asked that I let everyone know she isn't as conspiracy theorist at all, and resents those anti-feminists who portray her as such. Aside from the vast Right-Wing conspiracy out to smear her and her husband and the massive conspiracy of George W. Bush and the Haliburton Corporation to publicly fund the Middle East oil grab, she does not generally subscribe to conspiracy theories at all.
:*She added she is happy to directly and plainly answer the questions of right-wing cabalist and smear merchant Ann Coulter, if only she would define what the meaning of the words "Christian" and "perfection" mean. She looks forward to an open dialog with Coulter and the American people!
--[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 14:43, 10 November 2007 (EST)

I don't see where it says she voted for Goldwater. She has always said she was a "Goldwater girl," and raised in a good Republican home. It wasn't until she went off to an Eastern elite college with a commie-dominated faculty and got mixed up with a lowlife scumbag that the [[prodigal]] child departed from the values her parents instilled in her as a girl. But there is such a thing as redemption; she can still make up for shame she brought to her parents by marrying that putz and find her Goldwater roots again. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:14, 10 November 2007 (EST)
::Easter elite college? Didn't bush go to Yale? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:57, 14 November 2007 (EST)
:::Yes, but he didn't actually do any "thinking" while he was there. [[User:Rkstiner|Rkstiner]] 19:53, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

I don't think anyone really supports abortion, as it claims Hillary does a few times in this article. Can we maybe change that to "supports the right for women to have abortions"?

:I think that sounds fair. Can I also raise a warning flag here - when you compare this page against Huckabee's, then H Clinton hasd a lot of controversies listed, but M Huckabee does not. This seems to be ludicrously unbalanced. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 20:04, 18 January 2008 (EST)

== Accusations of Stolen Gifts ==

I do not see how this section of the article is relevant. It appears that the first family quickly realized its misunderstanding, and corrected it. [[User:Adg2011|Adg2011]] 21:49, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

== Any POV here? ==

ok, im kinda new to conservapedia, but I am just wondering. This article seems to have a lot of right-wing POV without instating the good things that Hilary Clinton did. If possible, can someone please list the good things about Hilary Clinton?
::This is not Wikipedia. We don't give affirmative action to liberal nonsense. Relevancy is what matters and not catering to liberal tripe in order to give "balance". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:41, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

::So are you saying that Clinton's childhood, early years, career, time as wife of the Arkensas governor, and everything else about her is irrelevant as far as Conservapedia is concerned? Or are you saying that to say anything good about HC has to be an example of liberal bias? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 16:00, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

It's the classic cop out for CP.com We'll list all sorts of negatives for people on the wrong side of the political tracks for our tastes 'till the cows come home. Bu suggest that even one or two posiives be listed, and you're hit with som retarded come back insinuating that unlike wikipedia we do not have a liberal agenda. It's ignorance at work. Get used to it. [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 20:36, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

==Infobox==
I tried using the President infobox for Senators, like at [[Joe Biden]], but I realize it doesn't work, for either, actually as it mentions "president". They're useful, could someone make one for Senators? And use it for Biden's, which right now says "Candidate for Viceth President of the United States", which ''almost'' works. McCain's too, I think. [[User:Fyezall|Fyezall]] 21:13, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm the one who added that to McCain, Biden and Clinton and would like that to. It should be in every article for a politician with a lengthy biography. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 26 August 2008

== "Clean up" edits of entry ==

I question whether the "clean up" edits of [[Hillary Clinton]] tell us more or less about the person. Trivia about upbringing can obscure, while eyewitness accounts of senseless rage can reveal the person behind the image.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:49, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

=="Open Marriage"==
The term "open marriage" is defined as one in which both partners are freely allowed to have romantic relations outside the marriage. The sources provided for the open marriage claim only confirm what is widely known, Bill Clinton was a philanderer, and Hillary most likely tried to ignore the fact. This does not constitute an open marriage. Trying to add this content to the Bill Clinton article is a rather obvious response to Newt Gingrich's ex-wife's allegations against him, which I consider spurious and unworthy of this encyclopedia. An encyclopedia is not the place for people to draw conclusions about other people's relationships based on hearsay evidence. [[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 15:43, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:Absolutely agree. This is just an attempted smear on Clinton because CP doesn't like her politic leanings. As CP prides itself on not containing gossip, this is hypocrisy incarnate. RobS you should be ashamed of yourself. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 16:01, 20 January 2012 (EST)
::The "open marriage" term appears in the 1992 ''American Spectator'' article, pay the subscription fee if you can't read it. Barbara Olsen also uses the term. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:04, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:::Th Barbara Olsen book is not a reliable source - and I know that you know that. Even if it does say it in the Spectator article, it is still gossip, still a blatant attempt to smear someone because you disagree with their politics. It is pathetic and unbecoming of an encyclopedia that has as one of its commandments "no gossip". --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 16:09, 20 January 2012 (EST)
::::And frankly, who cares? Unless Bill or Hillary comes out and says it to be true, why does anyone care what some writer speculates about the Clintons? Its beneath this encyclopedia to be dragging gossip from the bottom of the barrel like this.[[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 16:13, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:::::Frankly, she is not worth the fuss. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 16:33, 20 January 2012 (EST)
::::::Considering the front page is calling the Gingrich "open marriage" accusation "gossip," the level of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance required to sustain similar material on another page is staggering. [[User:ScottDG|ScottDG]] 16:43, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::Bullocks. These sources point out the coiners of this neologism did not necessarily refer to extra-marital affairs. There is no doubt the Clinton's have practiced an open marriage both on the sexual plane ''and'' in the sense the original authors intended ([http://books.google.com/books/about/Open_marriage.html?id=dDNHAAAAMAAJ ''"the book is not necessarily about open sexual relationships, but more about trust and allowing one's life partner to be their own individual,"''] and [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/31/magazine/31o_neill.t.html ''"an open marriage might or might not include “sexual openness"'']). In the Gingrich case, "open marriage" clearly is intended to be slanderous, but that is not the issue here nor related to the Hillary Clinton bio. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:09, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::So when Newt Gingrich's ex-wife reports that he asked her for an open marriage while having an affair with a staffer, an affair he acknowledges was occurring, that is slanderous gossip. But when a publication takes hearsay evidence and decides to characterize someone's marriage as open, when the clear definition of an open marriage requires that the activities of the spouses be open and consented to by both partners, that is responsible fact checking that belongs in this encyclopedia.

I will say it again: Bill Clinton CHEATED on his wife. Hillary Clinton probably had some idea for a long time, but there is no reason to believe that she gave Bill explicit permission to have affairs with other women. They did not have an open marriage, they had a dishonest monogamous marriage, and your attempt to characterize it as open is not only factually wrong, it also minimizes the gravity of Bill Clinton's behavior, by making it sound like he was not sneaking around,which he was. [[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 16:49, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:We're using the term in the sense the inventors of it intended, and Hillary not staying home to bake cookies but pursuing a career as a high powered attorney involved in cattle futures trading, later Senator and Secretary of State, is part of an "open marriage". As well as Bill having female friends, like Kathleen Wiley, Juanita Broaderick, or Gennifer Flowers. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:07, 22 January 2012 (EST)
::I agree that Mr. Clinton was indeed "sneaking around", and have never heard anything about the Clinton relationship being "open". I believe, Rob, that you are trying to justify Newt Gingrich's eschewing of [[family values]] by pinning the same sort of thing on the Clinton relationship.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 17:12, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::Not true, according to ''Inside The White House'' by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 [http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hildabeast.asp] [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:29, 22 January 2012 (EST)
::::Lovely....--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 17:32, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::::And of course there's ample evidence, [http://books.google.com/books?id=JnnUQOC8xNkC&pg=PT33&lpg=PT33&dq=hilary%2Bbimbo+eruptions%2Bbetsey&source=bl&ots=zVOIETr_ZB&sig=esrT9To9e8FaFi62FUmo4OFRLXg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_Y8cT8PnFuWksQLHl-SsCw&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hilary%2Bbimbo%20eruptions%2Bbetsey&f=false "''Hillary worked with Susan Thomases and Betsey Wright to contain any more “bimbo eruptions,” '']. That's hardly "not knowing". [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:43, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::The point is, Rob, that an "open marriage" implies both spouses are okay with the cheating. Hillary didn't appear to approve. And why aren't you adding information to the Gingrich article as well about this? --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 17:46, 22 January 2012 (EST)
::::::::However, to Mr. Clinton's credit, he didn't have three different spouses. And we should add information on the Gingrich article, since any "conservative" who eschews family values should be criticized as well.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 17:55, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::Agreed. I'll add some info. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 17:57, 22 January 2012 (EST)
Why do you guys keep bring up Newt Gingrich? This has nothing to do with Newt Gingrich. This is the Talk/Hilary Clinton page. Hilary Clinton, and her husband Bill, clearly have practiced an "open marriage" in every sense of the term that the original authors of the book of the same title intended, as the Clinton's lives, careers, and relationship, of 40 years, and all sources, attest. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 18:04, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:RobS, that is not the definition of open marriage that the rest of the world uses. That is certainly not the definition that was used in the interview with Marianne Gingrich. A relationship where the woman is free to choose to have a career and the man is free to have friendships with women is actually referred to as a "normal marriage." If that were the real definition, I am fairly certain that a large percentage of marriages would be characterized as "open."

This is a blatant attempt to smear a Democrat with the same bad publicity that Newt Gingrich has been dealing with on this issue. It is COMPLETELY unnecessary. Let's not fall to the level of a cheap gossip rag and report on the rumored sexual proclivities of public figures, no matter what political leaning.

PS: it is not enough to cite sources for a claim. The sources have to be RELEVANT, and all your sources have done is tell us what we already know and have sources for: Bill cheated, Hillary put up with it semi-secretly, probably for political reasons.

PPS: we keep mentioning Gingrich because the idea of including the "open marriage" claim by his wife was rightly rejected as irrelevant gossip. If it's irrelevant when Gingrich's ex-wife tells a reporter that he wanted an open marriage, it's doubly irrelevant when an editor on Conservapedia simply decides that their marriage constituted an open marriage.

PPPS: True story: my mother met Bill at a charity event once. They spoke briefly and took a picture together. In the picture, he has his hand around her waist, low enough to almost feel her butt and definitely low enough to be inappropriate. My mom didn't even notice until after she saw the picture. Now that's charisma.[[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 18:13, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:Rachel, it's not. The book, ''Open Marriage'' appeared roughly the same time of the Clinton's courtship & early marriage. It expressed what might be described as a liberal/progressive view of marriage intended for young liberal/progressives & feminists. It had a revolutionary impact on many young liberal/progressives, among them evidently the Clinton's. That the concept of extra-marital infidelity is something perhaps shameful and repulsive, then and now, may perhaps be viewed as a conservative position -- something this book, the Clinton's in particular, and the myriads of their supporters and apologists repudiated. Now, suddenly, open marriage and infidelity is considered aberrant, at least in the Gingrich case. Perhaps all it means is Gingrich isn't the right-wing conservative monster the Clinton's smeared him as. But that is irrelevant to Hilary's bio. The plain fact is, she & Bill have practiced an open marriage since the day the book first appeared. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 18:27, 22 January 2012 (EST)

:::: At this point, Rob, you're just repeating the same ridiculous argument over and over again. The book "Open Marriage" clearly indicates that it's not an open marriage if one person sneaks around and the other one puts up with it grudgingly, so until you can cite a reliable source that says that Hillary gave her explicit blessing to Bill's infidelities, then the only marriage they have is broken, dishonest monogamous marriage, sadly only one of many in this country. Is that what you want, Rob? Do you want a new euphemism to describe such a terrible relationship? I don't understand why you would want to describe what Bill Clinton did as something "open'" especially when NOBODY else in the world has ever described it as such. Keep your personal opinions to yourself, and post content when it has been verified, not just if it makes perfect sense to YOU.[[User:RachelW|RachelW]] 18:58, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:::::See [[Last wordism]]. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:20, 22 January 2012 (EST)

This whole issue is not relevant - if according to Rob Gingrich's affairs aren't important, then the state of the Clintons marriage is equally unimportant. I move that the section be deleted. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 19:31, 22 January 2012 (EST)
:Let's not confuse the two. Enough evidence and citations have been presented the demonstrate the Clinton's have practiced an open marriage for 40 years. But the lie, for example, that Gingrich served his first wife divorce papers "on her deathbed", is part of the Clinton legacy and what George Steponopolous described as the [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_23_16/ai_62896460/ Clinton's "scorched earth policy"]. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:39, 22 January 2012 (EST)

::You're being disingenuous, Rob, by bringing up the "deathbed" papers and refusing to acknowledge what I '''''actually''''' added to the Gingrich article. But you keep on whitewashing. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 19:44, 22 January 2012 (EST)

==Mindy0's section==

''On June 2, 2013 [[User:Mindy0|Mindy0]] placed this section at the top of the talk page instead of the bottom, where it might have been read, responded to and used to help improve the article.''

The following 3 consecutive sentences of the introduction don't seem accurate or balanced.

Sentence 1: "Hillary Clinton resigned from her job as Obama's Secretary of State after her incompetence led to the deaths of four Americans during the Islamic terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.[1]" The sentence doesn't seem accurate for the listed citation, nor accurate for based on the chrononology of a multitude of actual news reports. Based on a simple Google search of Hillary's announcement of her resignation, she made it known that she would resign at the end of President Obaba's first term in early 2011:
3/16/11: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/03/16/callin-it-quits-hillary-clinton-to-step-down-as-sec-state-in-2012/
7/18/11: http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/hillary-clinton-resign-secretary-state-after-next-election-07-18-2011
1/26/12: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/hillary-clinton-says-she-done-high-wire-american-175721782.html
1/27/12: http://aragonhitchhikers.blogspot.com/2012/01/hillary-clinton-announces-that-she-will.html
1/27/12 http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2012/01/hillary_clinton_20_years_on_hi.html
etc. etc. etc.

Sentence 2: "She is a pro-abortion advocate, supports the death penalty, has yet to embrace same sex marriage publicly but does support civil unions, and supports federal funding for embryotic stem-cell research." Hillary is first and foremost a long-time advocate of women's and girls' rights. In Beijing, at the 1995 UN Conference on Women, Hillary delivered her famous speech that "Women's Rights are Human Rights" which was especially provocative given China's human rights violations at that time. Throughout her career she has continued this advocacy.
Also see "Hillary Clinton: Women's Rights Are 'The Unfinished Business Of The 21st Century'" at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/05/hillary-clinton-womens-rights_n_3020981.html It seems odd to only focus on controversial issues which polarize Americans.

Sentence 3: "Hillary Clinton has practiced an "open marriage" in the nearly four decade relationship with her husband, former President Bill Clinton.[2][3]" This seems absurd. It is not accurate for Hillary nor relevant to a person's legacy! Hillary has not been known to have wandered or had multiple partners. Also see RachelW's longer commentary below. [above] — unsigned comment by [[User:Mindy0|Mindy0]]

==Secretary of State==
This section was the last post of a particular editor, and the claims presented about the State Department are not supported by the referenced sources:

:While Secretary of State, Mrs. Clinton’s department covered up sexual assaults<ref name=halted>[http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57588456/state-department-memo-reveals-possible-cover-ups-halted-investigations/ "State Department memo reveals possible cover-ups, halted investigations"] (June 10, 2013). CBS News website.</ref> and pedophilia by her employees<ref name=halted/>. Hillary has a long history of supporting individuals accused of deviant sexual behavior, including her husband, Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton has a long history of accusations of unwanted sexual advances, sexual harassment, and even rape by a woman whose integrity and credibility is widely regarded as above reproach.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZ8ICvutc0 "Hillary threatened Juanita Broaddrick 2 weeks after rape"] (March 27, 2007). YouTube video, 4:57, posted by miat1111.</ref>. The victim has spoken publicly about Hillary's penchant for sympathy with the perpetrators of sexual misconduct. <ref>Broaddrick, Juanita (October 15, 2000). [http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Juanita.htm "An open letter to Hillary Clinton"]. Reprinted at American Patriot Friends Network website.</ref>

<references/>

== Barking mad! ==

She barked liked dog at a campaign event in Nevada: "And every time they say these things like, ‘oh, the Great Recession was caused by too much regulation,’ Arf! Arf! Arf! Arf!”[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/3046281/] [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:35, 16 February 2016 (EST)

==Overhaul==
Time for an overhaul. I'm gonna begin rotating out some of the older stuff into spinoffs to make room for this next sad chapter of U.S. history. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 10:09, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
:Not really sure why that is necessary? At least, not to the degree that you've removed content into these spinoffs. The page is now quite literally useless. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 16:42, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
::Yeah, and besides, I'm not even sure what the next sad chapter is referring to that directly relates to Clinton you alluded to, as there doesn't seem to be any major additions to the article. Certainly nothing that would necessitate rotating the older stuff into spinoff article extensions to leave room for it. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 22:50, 19 May 2016 (EDT)

== footnoting ==

I don't have time to get involved in major articles or to delve into politics, but I will say that all of the versions of the article need better footnoting.

Many people use wikis as a starting point in their research and for these people footnoting is important.

Also, footnoting adds credibility whether people use them or not.

I think footnoting is especially important for key articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:39, 19 May 2016 (EDT)
:You're referring to formatting, I presume. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 13:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
::I am referring to footnoting to support statements in an article. Many people want to be able to verify claims made in a wiki.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:42, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

== Hillary and same sex marriage ==

I know Hillary is a flip-flopper and it is hard to keep up with the various positions that she takes, but her latest stance as far as same-sex marriage is that she is for them if I am not mistaken. See the video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight]. Currently, the article says she is against them.

So I will update the article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:20, 20 May 2016 (EDT)

== I redid some titles of sections ==

People want the titles to be matter of fact and informative. In other words, a clear preview of the sections without editorializing. So I redid a few of the titles.

I found that having clear and brief titles of sections is what people are looking for - particularly mobile phone users. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:00, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
:Conservative, you have a nasty habit of reverting ''before'' discussion. Stop and think momentarily, "how much effort and time out of people's lives did they put into this work", ''before'' you throw it in the trash. It is extremely rude. Good luck collaborating with yourself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 12:07, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
::Tweaking a few titles so they are clearer is not a major revision to the article. It's not like I destroyed your work or threw your work in the trash. The article is not less informative after my revision. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:20, 21 May 2016 (EDT

==Ok, I guess I'm done for now==
Sorry, but since collaborative discussion is limited under the 90/10 rule, and I cannot explain why I feel a responsibility ''not'' to endanger the lives, safety, and wellbeing of sources for this article, I guess I'm through for the time being. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 12:02, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

:I think you are being surly about this. I haven't seen the 90/10 rule enforced for those engaging in constructive dialogue about an article. Maybe it has, but I am not aware of it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:42, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

::The owner of the website does not like "warning templates" and similar things like them. He thinks they cause the reader to immediately dismiss the article. I tend to agree. If an article is very bad, it should be removed from the mainspace until it is ready return.

::The italic warning at the beginning of the article was a big turn off in terms of reader's taking the article more seriously. It reads like a sudden and mysterious/unspecified "cloak and dagger" interjection which is not a good way to begin an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:38, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:::Oh, ok. Why didn't you just say that yesterday at 7:00AM Mountain time? why didn't you raise the question on talk? why did you vandalize my work first w/o discussion? The article would have been fully loaded by now, two days later. I've wasted two days. Now my day job awaits. I was ready to devote two full days to that article. Instead I was disrespected and ridiculed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 19:28, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

=== re: Intro to Hillary article ===

RobSmith is insisting this editors note be atop the [[Hillary Rodham Clinton]] article:

"Editor's Note: Due to harassment and intimidation of individuals with past relations and associations with the Clinton's, certain names are being redacted."

For a reader on the fence concerning the Clintons, it makes the article read like a spy novel from the gitgo and not a serious encyclopedia article. That is because it makes a serious claim without giving a source. It is a needless distraction. This is an invitation for a reader to click off the article quickly.

If you want your wiki to have an impact for the upcoming election and want to get new editors, keeping that editorial note is not a good way to do it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:12, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:The article got over 1000 hits the first two days I was working on it; it's got about 150 hits in the past 36 hours since you killed it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 19:35, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
::Using supportable claims and the use of footnotes to support those claims is a reasonable way of writing an encyclopedia article. There is no need for you to be contentious about this issue - especially given the gravity of the claim you are wanting the reader to accept. This is a basic and reasonable principle as far as writing an encyclopedia article and it is covered in the first two [[Conservapedia:Commandments|Conservapedia commandments]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:24, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:::I welcome the input. Thank you. You are welcome to begin formatting the footnotes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 22:36, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

::Would it be possible at all to begin a discussion on the disclaimer? If there was a problem with it, we could have dealt with it ''after'' I applied the sources and content. The immediate problem now is, I will not have two back-to-back 12+ hour days til probably ''next'' Saturday, meaning we've basically wasted a full week already, and the convention gets closer and closer all the time, so the window to win over the Sanders voters is closing.
::And the issue now is further complicated by the question of, ''how many more weeks out of my limited life do I have to throw away?''

::Go ahead, feel free to mock me once again, but you claim to have gotten quick action from this mysterious owner of the website in 1 hour and ten minutes, but get him to answer my extremely important question I placed on his talk page about what age group should I write about some fairly not very family-friendly scandals.

::And I asked for a simple commitment ''not'' to vandalize my work yesterday, which likewise you hav e ignored.

::The balls in your court, my friend. As I see it, you have one of two choices at this moment -- a public apology to me on this wiki, or more disrespect and abuse of volunteer services. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 22:51, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
=== Do whatever you want with the article ===

Do whatever you want with the Hillary Clinton article. I am not going to interfere again with any of your political content.

I will let the other Andy/admins/editors who are into politics more work with you on the political articles since they are more interested in politics than I am.

I am going to take a long break from the news and attend to other matters so I won't be doing any wiki content or oversight as far as political topics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:13, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

== to: RobS, re: my recent revisions to the article ==

RobS, given present demands on my time, I shouldn't have waded into the Hillary Clinton article and done it in a matter that minimized discussion.

If you want to revert the article to your last version, please do so.

Lastly, I don't see myself getting involved in any of the political oriented articles at Conservapedia in 2016 given my present priorities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:32, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

# I am 60 years old. Given normal life expectancy I have approx. 6570 days remaining (Ps. 90:12), less weekends + holidays = 4500 days. Minus sleep time = 3000 days. I have routinely worked 10, 12 , & 16 hour days my enter adult life, meaning I have approximately 36,000 productive, working hours remaining in this mortal flesh (Is. 48:17). My time is extremely valuable, at least to me (Pr. 14:23). My time is worth $60 per hour. I already have ''at least'' 40 hours into the Hillary Rodham Clinton article (cost to me in real dollars, that I could have used productively elsewhere, $2400 before taxes & inflation). I was prepared to devote all day Saturday, more than 12 hours to begin adding ''more'' content, using carefully researched materials which cost me quite a bit in valuable time.
# My time, which is the same as my life, was discarded without discussion.
# I am not a Democrat. I am not liberal. I am not someone who regards my life frivolously or the lives of others. I try to be respectful of other’s lives, opinions, feelings, and most importantly, time, which is the same as being respectful of their life.
# None of these substantive issues can be discussed in Conservapedia because of the 90/10 rule, which is what I was de-sysoped and banned for. The 90/10 rule discourages cooperative, collaborative writing and content.
# Virtually all wikis afford editors and Admins the courtesy of discussion before reverting and/or deletions.
# I hesitate posting here because, once again, my valuable time will be ignored. I hesitate posting on Andy’s talk page for the same reason. I hesitate emailing you or Andy for the same reason. Historically, the best chance of my efforts being read and acted upon are at the WIGO page on another wiki.
# Get me my sysop powers back and access to the Main Page and we will ''then'' have something to discuss. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 13:41, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
Andy can get your Sysop powers back. I cannot. And to my knowledge, Andy never reads material at the other wiki you alluded to.

If you want your Sysop powers back, I would suggest doing it the same way you originally got your Admin powers. Create content and re-establish a rapport with Andy and other editors. That seems to be the most doable way to do it.

At this time, I made some commitments to several individuals and I have to keep my promises. So for the foreseeable future, I am not going to create any political content at this wiki or alter anyone else's political content. I am also not going to get involved in any wiki politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:28, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
:We've been over that many times. If you'd like me to continue this piece, you need to make a commitment to me to be respectful of my time and effort, as I would be to you. I would never undo your serious efforts without consultation first, even if you made it difficult to communicate with you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 14:35, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
::I see irony in the combination of the most damning point in the article is that HRC is cultivating the Wikipedian vote, then this talk page starts to read like the typical Wikipedian discussion. Can't we all respect each other's work here and try to move forward together? [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 14:57, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
:::RobS, I indicated in my previous post that due to off wiki commitments I am not getting involved in any political content at this wiki for the foreseeable future and that you can revert the article back to your version. So my involvement in your political content is effectively zero.

:::Next, I also indicated that I am not getting involved in any wiki politics (disputes between editors, etc. etc.).

:::I do wish you the best. At the same time, I really don't see us having any future interaction as don't see myself editing of your content or getting involved in the matter of you becoming an Admin again. I do think you can be an Admin again if you want to. I don't think it would be hard to do. As far as us probably not having any future interaction, I am not saying this because I have an ill-will towards you, it is just a matter of keeping my off wiki commitments to people. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:24, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
::::I see. You can get my sysop rights taken away, but no influence in getting them back. You remind me of my ex-wife, you can only destroy a relationship and business, but can't build anything. Who's gonna do the Main Page over the conventions? or are the 500 million visitors still going to be reading about Ted Cruz? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 17:13, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
Why don't you contact [[User:Jpatt]] and work out an arrangement where he posts main page news stories that you find for him?

I do think it is possible that you could reestablish a working relationship with [[User: Karajou]]. Not sure how fast this would happen, but I think it is doable. Maybe he could post stories that you find to the main page.

I have done some things to facilitate you becoming an Admin again such as contacting Andy and one of the Admins, but the rest is up to you at this point. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:12, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
:Nothing is up to me. I'm not putting another minute into this work with the constant threat of having it obliterated without discussion. I'm working at Wikipedia now, I have enough well researched material at my fingertips which will survive on the No. 6 website on the planet. In fact, 93% of all my 12,000 edits over 10 years is intact at Wikipedia without begging for permission or having it arbitrarily removed.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]] 18:55, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

== I restored the version that Progressingamerica likes ==

After seeing RobS: egotistically rant about how his time is worth $60 per hour; provide calculations on how much time he estimates he has left in his life; whine about a nonexistent threat; bitterly complain about his ex-wife and other matters; provide some made up statistic on how much of his content is retained at Wikipedia and then issue a [[Parthian shot|parthian shot]], I said enough is enough.

I restored the version that Progressingamerica likes. If anyone want to improve the article, by all means do so.

If RobS returns, that is fine by me. If he doesn't that is fine too.
RobS has turned into a cranky individual who is spoiling for a fight. I am glad I terminated my discussion with him. Life is too short to deal with self-important, brooding drama queens. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:00, 21 May 2016 (EDT)
::[https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/sc/?user=Nobs01&project=en.wikipedia.org Educate yourself before you talk]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|shut up]] 23:23, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

:::RobS, I didn't see at the link you offered any statistic that 93% of your content is unchanged at Wikipedia. Maybe you create content on topics which don't have a wide audience, but for moderately to high traffic articles, the figure of 93% sounds high. Frankly, I am skeptical.

:::Second, you did assist me with one of my articles in the past and you created a lot of content at this wiki. That is why I lobbied to get your Admin rights.

:::At the same time, I don't regret my recent post to you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:17, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
::::This is a teachable moment for your comprehension skills: 9322 '''live''' edits ("live" edits meaning "active" edits, edits which have not been "deleted", "overwritten", or "oversited", etc.) divide by 9973 '''total''' edits = 93%. Heck, you deleted probably 93% of your own edits on this wiki just today. I doubt you could survive 200 edits in Wikipedia. I bet I got morethan 93% surviving on this wiki. I bet 93% of my mainspace edits survive at RW, where they hate my guts. I'll match my good, surviving, productive, educational mainspace stats on any wiki with you, Andy or anyone, for that matter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|shut up]] 01:52, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

:Coming here to see this was quite amusing on the one hand, but I did not mean to create any rancor or consternation around here. Some of the pages that he created could be quite useful if brought to their full fruition, such as Hillary's time in the Senate or her time as Secretary. It would make for a good encyclopedic article to recount the ways on those two topics in deep specificity, but not in the main HRC page; in the main page there might only be a series of paragraphs summarizing key points. However, when it comes to her early life, her fawning over Saul Alinsky at college, these are core items that describe who she is and are not footnotes to her life to be glossed over or left in a sub-page that will not be often read. In the main page is where these items should be detailed.

:Currently, at 66,000 plus bytes, the article just isn't long enough? for a split of content. That would assume a goal of several pages, all having 66,000 plus bytes worth of content give or take. The [[Barack Hussein Obama]] (series of) page(s) provides a good enough example of what I have in mind. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 22:34, 21 May 2016 (EDT)

::Progressingamerica, no apologies needed. And I am glad you found my comeuppance of the self-absorbed, Mr. "$60.00 an hour" amusing. I have my doubts that my message to him will cause his attitude to change, but perhaps it will. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:15, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:::So now you are making fun of the Word of God, God's wisdom, and what God teaches? I've no doubt you have no understanding of the time value of money or accrual accounting either. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 12:12, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:RobS, tell the owner of the website that your time is worth $60 an hour and ask him how much it will cost in content contribution for you to buy your admin status back taking into account the time value of money and any debits/credits you accrue in terms of your activities at this volunteer wiki. :) Good luck to you in this endeavor should you take this course of action (Your going to need it!).

:To me you would sound narcissistic/self-absorbed. You probably have a hard time realizing this though. Which is why I have my doubts that you will ever be an admin again. That is why I am going to do no further lobbying on your behalf concerning this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:55, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

== Message to RobS ==

RobS,

If you going to stamp your feet, end your editing at Conservapedia, fire off your parthian shot and go off to editing the leftist Wikipedia that is fine. That is your choice.

But you can't have your cake and eat it too.

In short, the only way your last version of the Hillary Clinton article is going to be retained is if you continue to be an active editor at this wiki. Otherwise, you have lost your input on how the article is going to be. Its not fair to Progressingamerica and editors who helped create the version that you trimmed back for things to be otherwise. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:34, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:Duh, the current version I, that is me, Rob Smith, and TK created 9 years ago, duh duh duh. Keep the outdated crap and reject volunteer offers to update, duh duh duh.... [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 12:08, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
::RobS, if you want to be an active editor and have a significant voice in article content, I have no problem with that. You are certainly welcome to do so.

::On the other hand, if you want to be an arrogant ex-editor who proclaims his time is worth $60 an hour, goes into detailed analysis of his remaining time on earth and other irrelevancies, then you lose your influence as far as this wikis content.

::I don't care which choice you make at this point. And I am not going to lobby for or against you regaining your admin rights should you wish to continue editing at this wiki.

::I will say, however, that my past lobbying for you to become appears to have had a positive effect and the admin User: Karajou is now for you being an admin again whereas before he was against it. I was also moving the owner of the website closer to the position of you regaining your admin rights back. At this point, however, I have zero interest in making any further efforts in you regaining your admin status back. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:::Duh, listen to my words once again: the present article you reverted to '''GAVE ME A SIGNIFICANT VOICE''' cause I wrote it 9 years ago. Geez, how dense can you be? [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 12:44, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
RobS, I restored the version to the version that User: ProgressingAmerica favored. I did this because I didn't see you filling in the content of the article to make it more robust again.

You appear to want contention for contentions sake. I got that impression when I tweaked the article's titles and received an outcry from you that was intemperate in tone. You appear to be holding resentment about me getting your admin rights stripped and want to hold onto to that resentment.

And as far as you dragging your ex-wife into this discussion and comparing me to your ex-wife, I will say two things: 1) In a marriage, when the ship goes down, the captain takes responsibility. He doesn't blame everything on the crew! 2) When you have conflict with others, examine what role you are playing to cause and/or increase the conflict. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:59, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

==Above postings and time stamp==
Above, User:Conservative's subhead and time stamp is at 12:00; my response is posted at 12:02. 

Why, why, why, why, why have you, that is, User:Conservative, reverted and removed MY MY MY posting at least 3 times now? 

Would it be possible, at all, for you to begin (a) editing in [[good faith]], and (b) treating other users and their comments with dignity and respect?

And remember, User's are taking a huge risk simply posting to a talk page, with a one-in-ten possibility they will be summarily executed for ''wanting'' to work together. [[User:RobSmith|RobS aka Nobs01]][[User talk:RobSmith|Enter if you Dare! 90/10 Awaits: Beware!]] 13:23, 22 May 2016 (EDT)
:I am not going to engage in pointless bickering with you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:35, 22 May 2016 (EDT)

== "Hillary" ==

I did not realize that Conservapedia was on a first-name basis with Secretary Clinton. Why does her article insist on the informal address when no other article on an individual person on the site does? [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 00:54, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
:Obviously because she is far better known as a presidential wife than as a secretary of state. Would Einstein's wife be "Einstein" too? That would be confusing. I'm not saying that's a good reason, only that there is a reason why people do it. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 06:05, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
::"Secretary Clinton," or even "Mrs. Clinton" would clear it up. So would, you know, the fact that she is the subject of the article. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 13:34, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
:::Fine with me. Change what you like. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:30, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
::::Can't. Last time I edited this article a guy named Rob undid me. I don't want to start any conflicts. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 00:57, 27 May 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton

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Calgary Flames

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The '''Calgary Flames''' are a professional [[hockey]] team based in [[Calgary]], [[Alberta]]. The Flames moved to Calgary from [[Atlanta]], [[Georgia]] in the 1980 season. Playing in Alberta, the Flames have a strong rivalry with the [[Edmonton Oilers]]. However the Oilers defeated the Flames in the playoffs in 1983, 1984, 1988, and 1991, and the Flames winning in 1986. These have made for some of the most exciting hockey series in [[NHL]] history. The Flames play in the Northwest Division of the Western Conference at [[Pengrowth Saddledome]], built as the [[Olympic Saddledome]] for the 1988 [[Winter Olympics]]. The Flames won the [[Stanley Cup]] in 1989, and appeared in the [[Stanley Cup]] Finals in 2004.

==Official Team Website==
*[http://flames.nhl.com/ Calgary Flames Official Website]

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[[Category:Alberta]]

Buffalo Sabres

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The '''Buffalo Sabres''' are a professional ice hockey team based in [[Buffalo, New York|Buffalo]], [[New_York|New York]]. The Sabres were founded in the 1970-71 season and play in the Northeast Division of the Eastern Conference of the [[NHL]] at home in the HSBC Arena. The Sabres have never won the [[Stanley Cup]], however they did win the President's Trophy for Best Record in the NHL in 2006-07. Many Canadians from Southwestern [[Ontario]] support the Buffalo Sabres because of the proximity to the people and the general love of Hockey in Canada. During home games regardless of the opponent, [[Oh Canada]], the Canadian national anthem is played along side the [[Star-Spangled Banner]]. Their games are televised by the MSG Network.<ref>http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/buffalo/sabres.html</ref> Radio coverage is provided by WGR 550AM and MXMO 101.5FM.
==Team's Official Website==
*[http://sabres.nhl.com/ Buffalo Sabres - Official Web Site]

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[[Category:New York]]

Boston Bruins

2016-05-26T05:28:08Z

GerryV: Years out of date

The [[Boston Bruins]] are a professional ice [[hockey]] team based in [[Boston]], [[Massachusetts]]. The Bruins are one of the "Original Six" Teams of the [[NHL]]. The Bruins have won 6 Stanley Cups, in years 1939, 1941, 1970, 1972 and 2011. The Bruins play in the Northeast Division of the Eastern Conference at home in the [[TD Banknorth Garden]], which is also the home of the [[Boston Celtics]]. Their regular season games air on [[New England Sports Network]]. Former [[ESPN]] anchor [[Jack Edwards]] handles the play-by-play while [[Andy Brickley]] serves as color commentator.<ref>http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/extras/bruins_blog/2008/09/extensions_for.html</ref> The team is also covered on the [[radio]] by WBZ 1030 AM.<ref>http://www.wbz.com/pages/92263.php</ref>

==Team's official website==
*[http://bruins.nhl.com Official website]

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Atlanta Thrashers

2016-05-26T05:26:40Z

GerryV: Seven years out of date.

The '''Atlanta Thrashers''' are a hockey team based in [[Atlanta]], [[Georgia]]. They are members of the Southeast Division of the Eastern Conference of the National Hockey League ([[NHL]]). They were founded in the 1999 league expansion, returning professional [[hockey]] to Atlanta after the [[Calgary_Flames|Flames]] moved to [[Calgary]], [[Alberta]] in 1980. They are named after the [[brown thrasher]], the state bird of Georgia. The Thrashers play in the Phillips Arena, also the home to the [[Atlanta Hawks]] of the [[NBA]].

== Team's Official Website ==

*[http://www.atlantathrashers.com Official Team Website]

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Anaheim Ducks

2016-05-26T05:25:51Z

GerryV: Seven years out of date.

The '''Anaheim Ducks''' are a [[hockey]] team based in [[Anaheim]], [[California]]. They are members of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference of the National Hockey League ([[NHL]]). The Ducks joined the NHL in 1993, owned by the [[Disney Corporation]], in part as a tie-in to the movie "The Mighty Ducks", however following their sale to private investors, the name was changed from the "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim" to the "Anaheim Ducks". The Ducks now play at the Honda Center. They would win their first [[Stanley Cup]] over the [[Ottawa Senators]] in the 2006-07 season.

== Team's Official Website ==

*[http://anaheimducks.com/ Official Team Website]

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New York Islanders

2016-05-26T05:25:01Z

GerryV: Seven years out of date.

The '''New York Islanders''' are a hockey team based in the Long Island suburbs of [[New York City]], [[New York]]. They are members of the Atlantic Division of the Eastern Conference of the National Hockey League ([[NHL]]). They were founded in 1972. The Islanders have won the [[Stanley Cup]] four times, in a successful dynasty in the 1980's. The Islanders play in Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, since their inaugural season.
== Team's Official Website ==

*[http://islanders.nhl.com/ Official Team Website]

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Chris Kyle

2016-05-26T05:06:21Z

GerryV: Add news that Kyle inflated his medal count.

'''Christopher Scott "Chris" Kyle''' (April 8, 1974 – February 2, 2013) was a [[United States Navy SEALs|United States Navy SEAL]] having the most recorded kills (160) by a [[sniper]] in American history, with the actual number estimated to be even more, up to 255. His best-selling autobiography, ''[[American Sniper]]'', was produced by [[Clint Eastwood]] as a wildly popular movie that was later snubbed by liberal [[Hollywood]] voters at the 2015 Academy Awards.<ref>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/american-sniper-snubbed-at-2015-776511</ref> Kyle was born, raised and lived in [[Texas]], which honored him by officially declaring February 2, 2015, as "Chris Kyle Day."<ref>http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/02/02/abbott-to-establish-chris-kyle-day-for-american-sniper-texas/22740267/</ref>

He served four times for the United States in Iraq, and claimed to have been awarded two Silver Stars and five Bronze Stars with Valor.<ref>http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2013/april/the-legend-of-chris-kyle-01?single=1</ref> The Navy is currently investigating claims about Kyle's service record, which reveals that he in fact earned only one Silver Star and
three Bronze Stars. <ref> [http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/05/25/navy-probes-discrepancies-seal-sniper-chris-kyles-medal-claims.html "Navy Probes 'Discrepancies' in SEAL Sniper Chris Kyle's Medal Claims," Military.com]</ref>

On February 2, 2013, Kyle and his friend Chad Littlefield were murdered by ex-Marine Eddie Ray Routh at a shooting range near Chalk Mountain, Texas. Routh was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison without parole.

==Quotes by Liberal Haters about Soldiers like Chris Kyle==
* “My uncle killed by sniper in [[WW2]]. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.” — [[Michael Moore]]

* “I think [[Bowe Bergdahl]], if he deserted, is a hero – I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” – [[Bill Ayers]]

==Bibliography - Further Reading==
* [[Chris Kyle|Kyle, Chris]], ''[[American Gun - A History of the U.S. in Ten Firearms]]''. [[New York]]: William Morrow Paperbacks, May 27, 2014, 336 pp, ISBN-10: 0062242725, ISBN-13: 978-0062242723. [[New York Times]] [[:Category:Best Selling Authors|Best-seller author]]. [https://www.amazon.com/American-Gun-History-U-S-Firearms/dp/0062242725 Book on Amazon.com]

* [[Chuck Baldwin|Baldwin, Chuck]], "[http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/2281/My-Thoughts-On-The-Movie-American-Sniper.aspx#chriskyle#americansniper#war#muslims# My Thoughts On The Movie “American Sniper”]", [[American Redoubt]] [[Montana]]: Chuck Baldwin Live. Published: Thursday, January 29, 2015. Accessed February 11, 2015.

* Hawkins, John, [http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/02/07/25-quotes-that-show-you-how-much-liberals-hate-soldiers-like-chris-kyle-n1954002/page/full 25 Quotes That Show You How Much Liberals Hate Soldiers Like Chris Kyle]. [[Town Hall]]. Published Feb 07, 2015. Accessed February 11, 2015.

== References ==
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Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton

2016-05-26T04:54:53Z

GerryV: /* "Hillary" */ new section

Jean Paul Sartre

2016-05-26T04:06:57Z

GerryV: Fanon was Martinican, not Algerian, and included some words about who he was.

[[Image:Ncgj688.jpg|right|thumb|Jean Paul Sartre]]
'''Jean-Paul Sartre''' (1905-1980) was one of several popularizers of the [[philosophy]] of [[existentialism]]. Sartre's version of existentialism (different in minor components from those of his contemporaries, and modern existentialists) taught (consistent with his [[atheism]]) that life has no external meaning at all and that the moral obligation of every person was to find or define subjective meaning of their own life (lest life be [[Atheism and meaninglessness|altogether meaningless]]).<ref>''Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy''[http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sartre/#4]</ref> Sartre did not solve the issue of the absence of objective meaning under an [[atheist worldview]] (see: [[Atheism and meaninglessness]]).<ref>
*[http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/can-life-have-meaning-without-god Can Life Have Meaning Without God?] by James Anderson
*[http://jwwartick.com/2011/01/03/atheism-meaningless/ Atheism’s Universe is Meaningless and Valueless] by J.W. Wartick, January 3, 2011
*[http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2014/06/03/can-atheists-have-meaning-and-purpose-in-life/ Can atheists have meaning and purpose in life?]
*[http://www.bethinking.org/atheism/reclaiming-reason-from-atheism Why atheism] by Katie Galloway, 2014
*[http://aviewfromtheright.com/2012/04/19/heat-death-and-atheist-inconsistency-or-isnt-it-ironic/ Heat Death and Atheist Inconsistency (or, Isn’t It Ironic?)]
*[http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8449/atheism.html Atheism and Death: Why the atheist must face death with despair] By Dustin Shramek
*[http://pleaseconvinceme.com/2013/apathy-atheism-and-the-absurdity-of-life-without-god/ Apathy, Atheism, and the Absurdity of Life Without God] by Aaron Brake
*[http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/the-meaningless-life-of-atheism/ The Meaningless Life Of Atheism] by Daniel Prayson, 2010</ref>

The term 'existentialism' itself was popularized by many other individuals, but resisted by Sartre himself. Sartre was also a Communist, and was known to be in bed with the KGB,<ref name="Who was the Real Che?">http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=33786</ref> although he himself viewed his motives and beliefs as closer to anarchism. He was also responsible for the claim that the executed Bolivian Marxist revolutionary/terrorist, [[Che Guevara|Ernesto "Che" Guevara]], was "the most complete human being of our time," as well as ensuring that French communist/terrorist and fellow member of Guevara's cadre, Régis Debray, was released from his prison sentence 27 years early (having earlier been sentenced to thirty years in prison). He also promoted the [[Baader-Meinhof Gang]].<ref name="Who was the Real Che?" /> In addition, he also gave advice to the Martinican psychiatrist and political theorist [[Frantz Fanon]] during the Algerian War for Independence, and wrote in his preface to Fanon's 1961 book ''Les Damnes de la terre'' ("The Wretched of the Earth") that for a Black man "to shoot down an European is to kill two birds with one stone, to destroy an oppressor and the man he oppresses at the same time.", which had been an update of Existentialism to include self-liberation through murder. He also implied that "for [Sartre], the ''essential problem'' is to reject the theory according to which the left ought not to answer violence with violence."<ref>Interview in ''France-Observateur'', 1 February 1962.</ref> This also led him to be responsible for the various terrorist acts in Africa during the 1960s to the present, including the genocidal policies of Africans onto other Africans. Similarly, he also had an influence on the Cambodian Revolution and the [[Khmer Rouge]]'s reign of terror, especially the crimes conducted by the Khmer Rouge's ruling class, the Angka Leu ("The Higher Organization), all of whom studied under Sartre as Communist Party members during the 1950s.
[[File:Beauvoir Sartre - Che Guevara -1960 - Cuba.jpg|thumb|350px|right|Jean-Paul Sartre in [[Cuba]].]]
He also spent a lot of his time seducing several females into having sex with him, betraying [[Simone de Beauvoir]] constantly. Each time he got older, his females got younger in age. His practices were well known enough that Robert Francis, during a hostile criticism of ''Huis clos'', wrote "We all know Monsieur Sartre. He is an odd philosophy teacher who has specialized in the study of his students' underwear."<ref>Quoted in Cohen-Solal, p. 213</ref>

Sartre published a number of philosophical works including:
*''[[Transcendence of the Ego]]'', published in 1936
*''[[The Psychology of Imagination]]'', published in 1940
*''[[Being and Nothingness]]'', published in 1943
*''[[The Age of Reason]]'', published in 1945
*''[[Search for a Method]]'', published in 1957
*''[[Critique of Dialectical Reason]]'', published in 1960 (including ''[[Search for a Method]]'' as its introduction)
*''[[Notebooks for Ethics]]'', published posthumously, but written between 1947 and 1948.

Sartre also wrote a number of works of fiction based on his philosophical ideas, these include:
*''[[Nausea]]'', published in 1938
*''[[The Wall and Other Stories]]'', published in 1939
*''[[The Flies]]'', published in 1942
*''[[No Exit]]'', published in 1942

In fact, Sartre’s writing was so well received that, in 1964, he was awarded the [[Nobel Prize]] for literature, which he declined.<ref>List of Nobel Prize laureates for litrature[http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/]</ref>

Sartre fought in the [[French]] resistance in [[World War II]] for a brief period and worked on an underground French paper of the time. However, his activities were only very brief, and otherwise did his own actions during that time, including several plays. After France was Liberated, Sartre mentioned that France had been "more free" under Nazi control.<ref>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3998943.ece</ref>

Towards the end of his life he expressed sympathy with the [[terrorists]] who kidnapped and killed Israelis during the 1972 [[Olympics]], asserting that it was “perfectly scandalous” how the French press criticized the terrorism. He described terrorism as “a terrible weapon, but the oppressed poor have no others”. He also implied while defending the terrorists' actions during the Munich Olympics that he felt that the [[Jacobins|Jacobin Club]] during their [[Reign of Terror]] during the [[French Revolution]] didn't kill enough people.<ref>http://www.hoover.org/research/absolute-intellectual “A revolutionary regime must get rid of a certain number of individuals that threaten it and I see no other means for this than death; it is always possible to get out of a prison; the revolutionaries of 1793 probably didn’t kill enough people,” he [Sartre] said.</ref>

He died on April 15, 1980 in [[Paris]], [[France]].

== Jean-Paul Sartre's doubts about atheism ==

''See also:'' [[Atheists doubting the validity of atheism]] and [[Denials that atheists exist]] and [[Atheism, agnosticism and flip-flopping]]

[[Jean-Paul Sartre]] was one of the leading proponents of atheism of the 20th Century.

Yet Jean-Paul Sartre made this candid confession:
{{cquote|As for me, I don’t see myself as so much dust that has appeared in the world but as a being that was expected, prefigured, called forth. In short, as a being that could, it seems, come only from a creator; and this idea of a creating hand that created me refers me back to God. Naturally this is not a clear, exact idea that I set in motion every time I think of myself. It contradicts many of my other ideas; but it is there, floating vaguely. And when I think of myself I ''often'' think rather in this way, for want of ''being able to think otherwise'' [emphasis added].<ref>[http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/apologetics/AP0702W4.htm Is Christianity Alone Fully True and is Jesus Christ Really the Only Way To God? -- Part 4]</ref>}}

==Reference==
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==See also==
*[[Professor values]]

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Linda Woolverton

2016-05-26T04:04:53Z

GerryV: Not dead. Present tense.

'''Linda Woolverton''' (born December 19, 1952) is a screenwriter, playwright, and novelist. A feminist, many of her works often tried to push the [[feminism|feminist agenda]]. Notable works of hers include Disney's ''Beauty and the Beast'', ''The Lion King'', ''Maleficent'', and the live action ''Alice in Wonderland'' movies. She had been hired into Disney by then-Chairman [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]] around the time of Beauty and the Beast's development, as he had demanded for a "feminist twist" to the tale.<ref>http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-22/features/2825583_1_beast-s-castle-fairy-tale-madame-gabrielle </ref> She also has donated to the left-wing group VOICES FOR A SENATE MAJORITY - Democrat Farm Labor in 2008.<ref>http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/linda-woolverton.asp?cycle=08</ref> She also was involved in the creation of the Environmental liberal propaganda documentary piece "Arctic Tale,"<ref>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lynn-davidson/2007/07/26/arctic-tale-scripted-not-documentary-tricks-kids-worrying-about-globa</ref> and was one of the multitude of leftist women showcased in the left-wing PBS documentary "Makers: Women who Make America."<ref>http://deadline.com/2014/01/tca-pbs-orders-more-women-who-make-america-interviews-lena-dunham-sarah-silverman-hillary-clinton-susan-collins-shonda-rhimes-martha-stewart-668598/</ref>

==Notes and references==
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Hillary Rodham Clinton

2016-05-23T21:43:59Z

GerryV: small fix

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'''Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton''' (b. 1947), is a former U.S. Secretary of State under [[Barack Obama]] and a former U.S. Senator from New York. She is currently a candidate for the [[Democratic Party]] in the [[2016 Presidential Election]]. She is the wife of former President [[Bill Clinton]] who was [[impeach]]ed in a [[sexual harassment]] scandal.

She is an [[elitist]], [[liberal]], [[pro-abortion]] advocate, supports the death penalty, federal funding for embryotic stem-cell research, [[same-sex marriage]], and civil unions.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight - video]</ref>

As a role model for women and girls, Hillary Clinton has facilitated Mr. Clinton's philandering, lied about it, covered up allegations of sexual harassment and abuse, attacks and vilifies critics, victims, and their advocates who get in the way of the Clinton's personal ambitions.<ref>Clinton, Hillary (January 1998). [http://leany.com/Conspiracy/hillary_clinton_transcript.htm "Interview with Matt Lauer"]. Today Show television program, NBC. Transcribed at Leany.com.</ref>

==Early life and background==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton early life and career]]''
As a young woman Hillary told classmates her ambition was to marry a Senator. Hillary was a solid [[Goldwater]] [[Republican]] in 1964; Goldwater was one of 6 Republicans who voted ''against'' the Republican party leadership and joined 21 Southern Democrat [[segregation]]ists to vote ''against'' the [[Civil Rights Act of 1964]]. Hillary later repeatedly made the claim when speaking to [[African-American]] audiences she had been inspired by Dr. [[Martin Luther King]] since 1962. Goldwater, who was considered an [[extremist]] at the time Hillary supported him, responded to critics without denying the label, saying, "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice".<ref>Goldwater also suggested the use of low-yield [[nuclear weapons]] in Vietnam; Hillary supported Goldwater's Vietnam policy.</ref><ref>https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/heres-what-hillary-clinton-did-in-her-senior-year-of-high-sc?utm_term=.pvEOdnVjl#.fvlebWD79 </ref> During Hillary's tenure at the White House and beyond, Hillary routinely calls all political opponents "extremists", essentially equating anyone with opposing opinions as [[terrorist]]s.<ref>https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/080100sen-ny-hillary.html</ref><ref>http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/27/hillary-clinton-republicans-terrorists-women </ref>

Only when she met Bill, did her political views flower and she became a [[Democrat]]. The Clinton marriage is fashioned upon precepts of ''The Art of the Deal''. She allowed him to chase any woman he saw fit, and he allowed her to run the [[Arkansas]] Governor's Mansion and [[White House]] as she saw fit.<ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-507762/Why-Hillary-Clinton-let-husband-Bill-seduce-woman-sight.html </ref> This was the deal Bill Clinton offered America, two for the price of one.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/18/us/1992-campaign-candidate-s-wife-hillary-clinton-aspiring-first-lady-role-model.html?pagewanted=all </ref>

== First Lady ==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton First Lady]]
Hillary Clinton was a colorless First Lady characterized by her drab personal appearance and dress, poor taste in interior design, rudeness and foul mouth mistreatment of subordinates-even to those protecting her life with their own lives-with a ruthless political ambition manifested in a failed Healthcare “reform” boondoggle ending in scandal.<ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3376503/From-funky-florals-ruffles-FEMAIL-reveals-Hillary-Clinton-s-20-WORST-fashion-faux-pas-past-50-years.html </ref><ref>http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/12/weekinreview/the-nation-hillary-rodham-clinton-strikes-a-new-pose-and-multiplies-her-images.html?pagewanted=all </ref><ref>http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657896 </ref><ref>http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-hillary-clinton-scandals-volume-1/ </ref>

As the breadwinner of the Clinton family Hillary mocked and ridiculed stay-at-home mothers.<ref>http://time.com/4054623/clinton-dunham-tea-cookies/ </ref>
[[File:Hillary-4.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hillary convinced Democrats based on her expertise that Saddam was in possession of WMD.]]
== U.S. Senate ==

:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton Senate career]]''
Sen. Hillary Clinton led the fight on the floor of the [[United States Senate]] among Democrats to grant President [[George W. Bush]] authority to remove [[Saddam Hussein]] from [[Iraq]]. Hillary Clinton claimed, based upon first hand experience during 8 years in the White House, that Saddam was in possession of [[Weapons of Mass Destruction]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0 </ref><ref>http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp </ref> Sen. [[Bernie Sanders]] later was to question her judgement, and was slandered and ridiculed.<ref>http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/democrats_who_backed_iraq_now_dare_slime_sanders_foreign_policy_experience/ </ref><ref>http://www.dailywire.com/news/4709/hillary-panics-sanders-arthritic-fingers-cling-her-ben-shapiro </ref>

== The "inevitable" Hillary Clinton, 2000-2008 version ==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign]]
===Clinton surrogates===
The London ''Telegraph'', for example, refers to [redacted] revelations into the Goldwater girl's "high mind".<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1558943/Hillary-Clinton-student-letters-reveal-high-mind.html Hillary Clinton student letters reveal high mind], By Toby Harnden, ''London Telegraph'', 30 Jul 2007.</ref> As the young woman at Wellesley College considered which of a "smorgasbord of personalities" she wanted to be, she asked, "Can you be a misanthrope and still love or enjoy some individuals?". A misanthrope - a hater of humanity, is opposite of a philanthrope - a lover of humanity. But it also can be understood in a sexual sense; a misogynist is a woman-hater, and a misanthrope is a man-hater.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=QesppquBwgsC&pg=PT1408&lpg=PT1408&dq=misogynist+woman-hater,+misanthrope+man-hater&source=bl&ots=F8br3x1wPm&sig=1koMfbtfuulHxZ9MOTFc48vIhNk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif6fT3zOnMAhUJGj4KHXu8C-8Q6AEIfjAT#v=onepage&q=misogynist%20woman-hater%2C%20misanthrope%20man-hater&f=false New American Roget's College Thesaurus in Dictionary Form (Revised & Updated)], By Philip D. Morehead, Penguin Books, 2002.</ref> Whatever its meaning, a college sophomore ought to understand it refers to an antisocial personality.

David Maraniss, while promoting a book during the Clinton's first term, broached the subject of one, the other, or both Clinton's remaining active in electoral politics beyond his presidency.<ref>[http://www.c-span.org/video/?64214-1/book-discussion-first-class Booknotes, C-Span, March 27, 1995.]</ref> By 2007, other Clinton surrogates like [[Media Matters]] rewrote the narrative to attack [[Barack Obama]] and Clinton critics.<ref>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3735821 </ref>

===Superdelegates===
While it looked like an open convention might have happened again, ultimately Hillary Clinton conceded. Even though she had won more primary votes,<ref>[http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2008&elect=1M 2008 Presidential Democratic Primary Election Results], Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections. uselectionatlas.org/ </ref> Obama gave more money to the superdelegates.<ref>[http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/02/superdelegate-update/ Superdelegate Update], By Lindsay Renick Mayer, Center For Responsive Politics, February 28, 2008. opensecrets.org </ref>

Veteran campaign consultant Rich Galen notes it is illegal to promise a federal job in exchange for doing something or not doing something; but in a closed door negotiation it might be legal for the Obama team to ask the Clinton team, "What would it take for you to release your delegates to us?".<ref>http://townhall.com/columnists/richgalen/2016/03/09/dont-bet-on-it-n2130755 </ref>

After the election Hillary was appointed Secretary of State to add foreign policy experience to her resumé, a decided weakness of the two previous presidents.

==Secretary of State==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton Secretary of State]]
Hillary Clinton's job as [[Obama]]'s [[Secretary of State]] was the subject of a Congressional investigation after it had become evident that the deaths of four Americans during the Islamic terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in [[Benghazi]] were caused by incompetence and malfeasance.<ref>Page, Susan (May 10, 2013). [http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/09/senator-lindsey-graham-hillary-clinton-testify-benghazi-subpoena/2147869/ "Sen. Graham: Hillary Clinton should testify on Benghazi"]. ''USA Today'' website.</ref>

==The "inevitable" Hillary Clinton, 2012-2016 version==
:''Main article [[United States presidential election, 2016]]''
On April 12, 2015, Hillary Rodham Clinton announced her candidacy for the Democratic Party's nomination in the [[2016 presidential election]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uY7gLZDmn4 "Getting Started | Hillary Clinton"] (April 12, 2015). YouTube video, 2:18, posted by Hillary Clinton.</ref>

===The truth comes out===
Speaking to a group of Democratic loyalists in Massachusetts in 2014, Hillary indulged some of the old-fashioned unprovoked, pointless partisanship and divisiveness well known to the victims of Clintonism. Hillary Clinton alleged, "Don't let anyone tell you that corporations and businesses create jobs."<ref>[http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPyUoCiWsTfI&ei=xzeCVYujEsTWoASs56HYCw&usg=AFQjCNFbNBSR0hvjFM2Csz0nD8oWQXzRiw&sig2=j25eCvPsMx5f-_-zQjEerg "Clinton shifts left: 'Don't let anyone tell you' that 'businesses create jobs'"] (October 24, 2014). YouTube video, 0:36, posted by GOP War Room.</ref>

===Job destruction===
After Congressional Democrats voted down President Obama's proposal to create a NAFTA-like Pacific Trade Zone with China, Japan, and about a dozen other countries, to no one one surprise Hillary Clinton once again flip-flopped to garner headlines in support of what public opinion polls were saying. CNN reported Hillary had spoken out in favor of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) no less than 45 times prior, an issue which supposedly she now opposes.<ref>Multiple references:
*Tapper, Jake et al. (June 15, 2015). [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2015%2F06%2F15%2Fpolitics%2F45-times-secretary-clinton-pushed-the-trade-bill-she-now-opposes%2F&ei=wC2CVeupMYO0oQTUj4HYCg&usg=AFQjCNEsFqVDafeOiL3RCS2RkzIM4yx07A&sig2=FjN1zCMVkBdQg3uHQ-cQvg "45 times Secretary Clinton pushed the trade bill she now opposes"]. CNN website/Politics.
*Swenson, Michele (June 24, 2014). [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fmichele-swenson%2Fnafta-the-transpacific-clinton_b_5523327.html&ei=CzKCVfvNFoq1oQTkg6iQDA&usg=AFQjCNH8zZ2k0O_82qbQ4lDs25S0ZL7LUQ&sig2=PUwH5dxq_fcRw17Tw9x7SQ "NAFTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Clinton Global Initiative"]. Huffington Post/The Blog.
*Shreckinger, Ben (February 21, 2014). [http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/how-obamas-free-trade-push-could-put-hillary-clinton-in-a-tight-spot/283958/ "How Obama's free trade push could put Hillary in a tight spot"]. ''The Atlantic'' website.</ref>

===No penny pinching Superdelegates this time===

===Wikipedia darling===
On the issue of the controversial, biased online encyclopedia, [[Wikipedia]], Clinton sent a message of congratulations that was read at the opening session of the Wikimania 2012 conference in Washington, DC.<ref>{{cite web|first=Nicholas Michael|last=Bashour|url=http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/17/wikimania-2012-swan-song/|title="Wikimania 2012 swan song"|publisher=Wikimedia blog website|date=July 17, 2012}}</ref>

==See also==
* [[Bill Clinton]]
* [[Hillary Clinton for President Exploratory Committee]]
* [[Freedom of Choice Act]]
* [[Previous Breaking News/Hillary Clinton|Articles about '''Hillary Clinton''' from previous "Breaking News"]]
* [[Charles Schumer]]
* [[Abbottabad raid]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==External Links==
*[https://www.hillaryclinton.com Hillary Rodham Clinton 2016 campaign website]

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Hillary Rodham Clinton

2016-05-23T21:43:03Z

GerryV: Her own identification should come before her marriage status.

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'''Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton''' (b. 1947), is a former U.S. Secretary of State under [[Barack Obama]] and a former U.S. Senator from New York. She is currently a candidate for the [[Democratic Party]] in the [[2016 Presidential election]]. She is the wife of former President [[Bill Clinton]] who was [[impeach]]ed in a [[sexual harassment]] scandal.

She is an [[elitist]], [[liberal]], [[pro-abortion]] advocate, supports the death penalty, federal funding for embryotic stem-cell research, [[same-sex marriage]], and civil unions.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight - video]</ref>

As a role model for women and girls, Hillary Clinton has facilitated Mr. Clinton's philandering, lied about it, covered up allegations of sexual harassment and abuse, attacks and vilifies critics, victims, and their advocates who get in the way of the Clinton's personal ambitions.<ref>Clinton, Hillary (January 1998). [http://leany.com/Conspiracy/hillary_clinton_transcript.htm "Interview with Matt Lauer"]. Today Show television program, NBC. Transcribed at Leany.com.</ref>

==Early life and background==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton early life and career]]''
As a young woman Hillary told classmates her ambition was to marry a Senator. Hillary was a solid [[Goldwater]] [[Republican]] in 1964; Goldwater was one of 6 Republicans who voted ''against'' the Republican party leadership and joined 21 Southern Democrat [[segregation]]ists to vote ''against'' the [[Civil Rights Act of 1964]]. Hillary later repeatedly made the claim when speaking to [[African-American]] audiences she had been inspired by Dr. [[Martin Luther King]] since 1962. Goldwater, who was considered an [[extremist]] at the time Hillary supported him, responded to critics without denying the label, saying, "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice".<ref>Goldwater also suggested the use of low-yield [[nuclear weapons]] in Vietnam; Hillary supported Goldwater's Vietnam policy.</ref><ref>https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/heres-what-hillary-clinton-did-in-her-senior-year-of-high-sc?utm_term=.pvEOdnVjl#.fvlebWD79 </ref> During Hillary's tenure at the White House and beyond, Hillary routinely calls all political opponents "extremists", essentially equating anyone with opposing opinions as [[terrorist]]s.<ref>https://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/080100sen-ny-hillary.html</ref><ref>http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/27/hillary-clinton-republicans-terrorists-women </ref>

Only when she met Bill, did her political views flower and she became a [[Democrat]]. The Clinton marriage is fashioned upon precepts of ''The Art of the Deal''. She allowed him to chase any woman he saw fit, and he allowed her to run the [[Arkansas]] Governor's Mansion and [[White House]] as she saw fit.<ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-507762/Why-Hillary-Clinton-let-husband-Bill-seduce-woman-sight.html </ref> This was the deal Bill Clinton offered America, two for the price of one.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/18/us/1992-campaign-candidate-s-wife-hillary-clinton-aspiring-first-lady-role-model.html?pagewanted=all </ref>

== First Lady ==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton First Lady]]
Hillary Clinton was a colorless First Lady characterized by her drab personal appearance and dress, poor taste in interior design, rudeness and foul mouth mistreatment of subordinates-even to those protecting her life with their own lives-with a ruthless political ambition manifested in a failed Healthcare “reform” boondoggle ending in scandal.<ref>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3376503/From-funky-florals-ruffles-FEMAIL-reveals-Hillary-Clinton-s-20-WORST-fashion-faux-pas-past-50-years.html </ref><ref>http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/12/weekinreview/the-nation-hillary-rodham-clinton-strikes-a-new-pose-and-multiplies-her-images.html?pagewanted=all </ref><ref>http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251657896 </ref><ref>http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-hillary-clinton-scandals-volume-1/ </ref>

As the breadwinner of the Clinton family Hillary mocked and ridiculed stay-at-home mothers.<ref>http://time.com/4054623/clinton-dunham-tea-cookies/ </ref>
[[File:Hillary-4.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hillary convinced Democrats based on her expertise that Saddam was in possession of WMD.]]
== U.S. Senate ==

:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton Senate career]]''
Sen. Hillary Clinton led the fight on the floor of the [[United States Senate]] among Democrats to grant President [[George W. Bush]] authority to remove [[Saddam Hussein]] from [[Iraq]]. Hillary Clinton claimed, based upon first hand experience during 8 years in the White House, that Saddam was in possession of [[Weapons of Mass Destruction]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0 </ref><ref>http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp </ref> Sen. [[Bernie Sanders]] later was to question her judgement, and was slandered and ridiculed.<ref>http://www.salon.com/2016/02/22/democrats_who_backed_iraq_now_dare_slime_sanders_foreign_policy_experience/ </ref><ref>http://www.dailywire.com/news/4709/hillary-panics-sanders-arthritic-fingers-cling-her-ben-shapiro </ref>

== The "inevitable" Hillary Clinton, 2000-2008 version ==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign]]
===Clinton surrogates===
The London ''Telegraph'', for example, refers to [redacted] revelations into the Goldwater girl's "high mind".<ref>[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1558943/Hillary-Clinton-student-letters-reveal-high-mind.html Hillary Clinton student letters reveal high mind], By Toby Harnden, ''London Telegraph'', 30 Jul 2007.</ref> As the young woman at Wellesley College considered which of a "smorgasbord of personalities" she wanted to be, she asked, "Can you be a misanthrope and still love or enjoy some individuals?". A misanthrope - a hater of humanity, is opposite of a philanthrope - a lover of humanity. But it also can be understood in a sexual sense; a misogynist is a woman-hater, and a misanthrope is a man-hater.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=QesppquBwgsC&pg=PT1408&lpg=PT1408&dq=misogynist+woman-hater,+misanthrope+man-hater&source=bl&ots=F8br3x1wPm&sig=1koMfbtfuulHxZ9MOTFc48vIhNk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif6fT3zOnMAhUJGj4KHXu8C-8Q6AEIfjAT#v=onepage&q=misogynist%20woman-hater%2C%20misanthrope%20man-hater&f=false New American Roget's College Thesaurus in Dictionary Form (Revised & Updated)], By Philip D. Morehead, Penguin Books, 2002.</ref> Whatever its meaning, a college sophomore ought to understand it refers to an antisocial personality.

David Maraniss, while promoting a book during the Clinton's first term, broached the subject of one, the other, or both Clinton's remaining active in electoral politics beyond his presidency.<ref>[http://www.c-span.org/video/?64214-1/book-discussion-first-class Booknotes, C-Span, March 27, 1995.]</ref> By 2007, other Clinton surrogates like [[Media Matters]] rewrote the narrative to attack [[Barack Obama]] and Clinton critics.<ref>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3735821 </ref>

===Superdelegates===
While it looked like an open convention might have happened again, ultimately Hillary Clinton conceded. Even though she had won more primary votes,<ref>[http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2008&elect=1M 2008 Presidential Democratic Primary Election Results], Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections. uselectionatlas.org/ </ref> Obama gave more money to the superdelegates.<ref>[http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/02/superdelegate-update/ Superdelegate Update], By Lindsay Renick Mayer, Center For Responsive Politics, February 28, 2008. opensecrets.org </ref>

Veteran campaign consultant Rich Galen notes it is illegal to promise a federal job in exchange for doing something or not doing something; but in a closed door negotiation it might be legal for the Obama team to ask the Clinton team, "What would it take for you to release your delegates to us?".<ref>http://townhall.com/columnists/richgalen/2016/03/09/dont-bet-on-it-n2130755 </ref>

After the election Hillary was appointed Secretary of State to add foreign policy experience to her resumé, a decided weakness of the two previous presidents.

==Secretary of State==
:''Main article [[Hillary Clinton Secretary of State]]
Hillary Clinton's job as [[Obama]]'s [[Secretary of State]] was the subject of a Congressional investigation after it had become evident that the deaths of four Americans during the Islamic terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in [[Benghazi]] were caused by incompetence and malfeasance.<ref>Page, Susan (May 10, 2013). [http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/09/senator-lindsey-graham-hillary-clinton-testify-benghazi-subpoena/2147869/ "Sen. Graham: Hillary Clinton should testify on Benghazi"]. ''USA Today'' website.</ref>

==The "inevitable" Hillary Clinton, 2012-2016 version==
:''Main article [[United States presidential election, 2016]]''
On April 12, 2015, Hillary Rodham Clinton announced her candidacy for the Democratic Party's nomination in the [[2016 presidential election]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uY7gLZDmn4 "Getting Started | Hillary Clinton"] (April 12, 2015). YouTube video, 2:18, posted by Hillary Clinton.</ref>

===The truth comes out===
Speaking to a group of Democratic loyalists in Massachusetts in 2014, Hillary indulged some of the old-fashioned unprovoked, pointless partisanship and divisiveness well known to the victims of Clintonism. Hillary Clinton alleged, "Don't let anyone tell you that corporations and businesses create jobs."<ref>[http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPyUoCiWsTfI&ei=xzeCVYujEsTWoASs56HYCw&usg=AFQjCNFbNBSR0hvjFM2Csz0nD8oWQXzRiw&sig2=j25eCvPsMx5f-_-zQjEerg "Clinton shifts left: 'Don't let anyone tell you' that 'businesses create jobs'"] (October 24, 2014). YouTube video, 0:36, posted by GOP War Room.</ref>

===Job destruction===
After Congressional Democrats voted down President Obama's proposal to create a NAFTA-like Pacific Trade Zone with China, Japan, and about a dozen other countries, to no one one surprise Hillary Clinton once again flip-flopped to garner headlines in support of what public opinion polls were saying. CNN reported Hillary had spoken out in favor of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) no less than 45 times prior, an issue which supposedly she now opposes.<ref>Multiple references:
*Tapper, Jake et al. (June 15, 2015). [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2015%2F06%2F15%2Fpolitics%2F45-times-secretary-clinton-pushed-the-trade-bill-she-now-opposes%2F&ei=wC2CVeupMYO0oQTUj4HYCg&usg=AFQjCNEsFqVDafeOiL3RCS2RkzIM4yx07A&sig2=FjN1zCMVkBdQg3uHQ-cQvg "45 times Secretary Clinton pushed the trade bill she now opposes"]. CNN website/Politics.
*Swenson, Michele (June 24, 2014). [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fmichele-swenson%2Fnafta-the-transpacific-clinton_b_5523327.html&ei=CzKCVfvNFoq1oQTkg6iQDA&usg=AFQjCNH8zZ2k0O_82qbQ4lDs25S0ZL7LUQ&sig2=PUwH5dxq_fcRw17Tw9x7SQ "NAFTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Clinton Global Initiative"]. Huffington Post/The Blog.
*Shreckinger, Ben (February 21, 2014). [http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/02/how-obamas-free-trade-push-could-put-hillary-clinton-in-a-tight-spot/283958/ "How Obama's free trade push could put Hillary in a tight spot"]. ''The Atlantic'' website.</ref>

===No penny pinching Superdelegates this time===

===Wikipedia darling===
On the issue of the controversial, biased online encyclopedia, [[Wikipedia]], Clinton sent a message of congratulations that was read at the opening session of the Wikimania 2012 conference in Washington, DC.<ref>{{cite web|first=Nicholas Michael|last=Bashour|url=http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/17/wikimania-2012-swan-song/|title="Wikimania 2012 swan song"|publisher=Wikimedia blog website|date=July 17, 2012}}</ref>

==See also==
* [[Bill Clinton]]
* [[Hillary Clinton for President Exploratory Committee]]
* [[Freedom of Choice Act]]
* [[Previous Breaking News/Hillary Clinton|Articles about '''Hillary Clinton''' from previous "Breaking News"]]
* [[Charles Schumer]]
* [[Abbottabad raid]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==External Links==
*[https://www.hillaryclinton.com Hillary Rodham Clinton 2016 campaign website]

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User talk:GerryV

2016-05-11T18:04:52Z

GerryV:

{{welcome|sig=--[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 17:29, 13 April 2016 (EDT)}}
Great contributions! Also, thanks for catching my capitalization error on [[Pepper spray]]! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 17:29, 13 April 2016 (EDT)
:Not a problem, and thanks much for the welcome. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 01:47, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

== Hi ==
I know we are on opposite sides on social issues but I just wanted to say that your edit to [[The Chalkening]] showcased your impressive English Composition skills. Keep up the good work!--Jpatt 13:54, 10 May 2016 (EDT)
:Thank you. Sadly, I was unable to edit for quite a while as my ip was server-side blocked from accessing the site until today. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 01:03, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
::Blocked? That's odd! Perhaps someone in your area or even on your network was banned for disallowed behavior? For it to end so soon, it must have been an autoblock, that is, a short-term block for an IP which was used to try to log in to a banned account. If that happens again, feel free to e-mail me or an admin who has listed their address and we'll see what we can do! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 01:48, 11 May 2016 (EDT)
:::It lasted almost a month, and it wasn't just a block -- my home ip (I'm the only user of this network) could not even open the web page, though my phone could open it up via its own 3G ip. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 14:04, 11 May 2016 (EDT)

Donald Trump

2016-05-11T05:05:11Z

GerryV: I used the wrong word here. Fixing.

[[File:Donald John Trump.jpg|200px|right|thumbnail|Donald J. Trump]]
'''Donald J. Trump''' (b. [[Queens]], [[New York]], on June 14, 1946), nickname "The Donald," (or simply - "The Don") is a successful businessman, entrepreneur, outspoken politician, and [[television]] personality. He the presumptive nominee for the [[Republican Party]] in the [[2016 presidential election]].

Trump has engaged in many financial pursuits and estimates that his net worth is $10 billion.<ref>LoGiurato, Brett (July 25, 2015). [http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-7 "We finally know a lot more about Donald Trump's 'massive' net worth"]. Business Insider website.</ref> He graduated from the New York Military Academy in 1964 and first attended college at [[Fordham University]] for two years before transferring to the more competitive [[University of Pennsylvania]] and then completing his studies at the prestigious Wharton School of Finance and Commerce. Trump has five children.

On June 16, 2015, he declared his candidacy for the Republican nomination in the [[2016 presidential election]].<ref>[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/16/trump-announces-white-house-bid-joins-crowded-gop-field/ "Trump announces White House bid, joins crowded GOP field"] (June 16, 2015). Fox News website/Politics. The front-runner in a record-breaking field of 17 [[Republican]] candidates, Trump announced that he did not anticipate "throwing punches" against his rivals in the first GOP debate. Chiacu, Donna and Torbati, Yeganeh (August 2, 2015). [http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/02/us-usa-election-debate-idUSKCN0Q70NI20150802 "Trump says won't be 'throwing punches' in U.S. Republican debate"]. But at the debate the [[Fox News Channel]]—particularly its [[feminist]] non-journalist [[Megyn Kelly]]—ambushed Trump with out-of-context quotations designed to smear him as somehow being anti-women. This ignited a national controversy that lasted for days, and Trump called upon Kelly to apologize, which she refused to do.</ref> Unlike most other U.S presidential candidates, Trump sharply criticizes the media and talks about issues that no elected official dares touch. For example, Trump stands up against [[feminists]], unlike most politicians. In another example, in 2011 Trump persistently doubted whether [[Barack Obama]] had been born in the [[United States]], which caused Obama's approval ratings to drop below 40% until Obama finally caved in to Trump and produced what Obama claimed was his birth certificate. Trump then scoffed at Obama's conduct.

In February 2011, Trump announced that he is [[pro-life]].<ref>But on August 11, 2015, he indicated that he might support taxpayer funding of [[Planned Parenthood]] for its non-[[abortion]] activities (which builds its brand and funds its overhead).</ref> During the campaign for the Republican nomination, Trump called for women who had [[abortion]]s to be punished for doing so. He quickly flip-flopped on that statement, saying instead that doctors who provide abortions should be punished, not the women who have them. <ref>[https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Donald Trump press release]</ref>. He later asserted that there should be no federal ban on abortions. <ref>[http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/01/politics/donald-trump-abortion-laws/index.html]"Trump says federal laws should not be changed to outlaw abortion," CNN.com, 1 April 2016.</ref>

Trump's central campaign theme has been to oppose [[illegal immigration]], and he enlisted Senator [[Jeff Sessions]] as an adviser on this issue. As reported by [[Breitbart News Network|Breitbart]], "Sen. Sessions, Chairman of the Senate’s Immigration Subcommittee, is widely regarded as the gold standard on immigration. Sessions has also become the intellectual thought leader in the Republican Party on appealing to the blue collar voters who have been abandoned by their political leaders." <ref>Hahn, Julia (August 14, 2015). [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/14/game-change-trump-consults-with-sen-jeff-sessions-on-immigration-strategy/ "Game change: Trump consults with Sen Jeff Sessions on immigration strategy"]. Breitbart website/Big government.</ref> However, in recent months, Trump has focused more on [[ISIS]] and terrorism.

In the 2015 [[Value Voters Debate|Value Voters]] poll, Trump performed poorly, coming in fifth, indicating many [[Christian]] [[conservatives]] had not yet warmed up to him.<ref>Flores, Reena (September 26, 2015). [http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-conservative-poll-donald-trump-could-not-win/ "The conservative poll Donald Trump could not win"]. CBSNews website.</ref> Trump is a big supporter of [[gambling]], which most [[conservatives]] oppose. But by 2016 Trump was winning more support from [[evangelical]]s than any other Republican candidate.

==Early life==

Donald Trump attended the First [[Presbyterian]] Church in Jamaica, [[Queens]]. He told the [[Christian Broadcasting Network]] that he still considers himself a [[Presbyterian]] and attends services for all major holidays and Sundays, and that "The [[Bible]] is certainly THE book." He receives Bibles from fans in the mail, and he either stores them or gives them away to others.<ref>Haberman, Maggie (April 11, 2011). [http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52942.html "Donald Trump talks about religion"]. Politico website.</ref>

==Career==
[[File:031711trump.jpg|right]]
Donald Trump began his career at Trump Organization. In his college years, he helped revitalize one of his father's failing real estate ventures. Trump began opening hotels and casinos, which provided him with the cash flow to engage in other ventures. He owns the world-famous Trump Tower and is the founder of the publicly traded Trump Hotel Casinos & Resorts. Trump also owns the Trump brand, which sells a variety of items, such as bottled water, steak, and even mortgages. Trump has authored a number of books and weathered changing business fortunes, but despite the challenges that he has encountered, he has continued to be a successful businessman and entrepreneur.

Trump considered [[presidential election 2012|running for President in 2012]] as a [[Republican]]. He, among others, questioned the citizenship of [[Barack Obama]], citing his failure to produce his birth certificate. After Obama produced his birth certificate, Trump and the other [[birther]]s continue to doubt its authenticity. Obama's approval ratings were around 40% during the peak of the controversy. Trump later exited the race, and gave the customary endorsement to [[Mitt Romney]] as the other [[Republican]] contenders did.

==Major properties==

*Trump World Tower: 845 United Nations Plaza, New York, NY.

*Trump Tower: 725 Fifth Ave, New York, NY 10022 Personal Residence

*Trump Taj Mahal

*Trump Marina

*Bank of America Center (San Francisco)

*The Trump Building at 40 Wall Street

*Trump Plaza

*Trump Park Avenue

*Trump Entertainment Resorts

*TrumpStreet Casino & Entertainment Complex, Philadelphia

*AXA Financial Center, 1290 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY

*Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago

*Trump International Hotel & Casino Las Vegas

*Mar-A-Lago Palm Beach

*Four golf courses in the U.S.

==Media==
[[File:Donald Trump star.JPG|thumbnail|left|Hollywood Walk of Fame]]
In 2003 Trump began as the host and executive producer of the reality [[television]] show ''The Apprentice'' and ''The Celebrity Apprentice'', where contestants compete for a position in Trump's organization. On this show, Trump popularized his catchphrase "You're fired!"

Trump owns the Miss Universe Pageant. Controversy arose when one of the winners, Tara Conner, was caught breaking pageant rules by drinking and other activities. Trump gave her a second chance after personally speaking with her and allowed her to retain her crown as she attended rehabilitation. For several weeks after this, [[Rosie O'Donnell]] berated Trump for his decision on ''The View''. A bitter media war ensued with the two exchanging insults.

Trump has made many guest appearances, usually as himself, on many TV shows and in several movies.

Childish [[liberals]] are vandalizing Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame three times a day. A person asked about the vandalism said Trump has it coming. <ref>[http://video.breitbart.com/?ndn.trackingGroup=90085&ndn.siteSection=breitbart2slider_nws_us_sec&ndn.videoId=30599129&freewheel=90085&sitesection=breitbart2slider_nws_us_sec&vid=30599129 Trump Walk of Fame Star vandalized daily]</ref>

==Political positions==

====Abortion====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, Trump announced he is [[pro-life]].<ref>Rahn, Will (February 10, 2011). [http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/10/trump-at-cpac-points-to-white-house-run/ "Trump at CPAC points to White House run"]. The Daily Caller website.</ref>

====Affordable Care Act====

Trump intends to "repeal and replace" [[Obamacare]].<ref name=Educ>Breitbart.tv (February 9, 2011). [http://www.breitbart.com/video/2011/02/09/pro-life-donald-trump-would-eliminate-dept-of-education-impose-25-tax-on-china-imports-if-president/ "Pro-life Donald Trump would eliminate Dept of Education, impose 25% tax on China imports if president"]. Breitbart.com.</ref> However, Trump has also said, "I like the mandate,"<ref>[http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/19/trump-on-obamacare-i-like-the-mandate-video/ "Trump On Obamacare: ‘I Like The Mandate’"]</ref> so it is difficult to tell how he would deal with the law as President.

====Controversy with Barack Obama====

Trump has also questioned Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to be President, in light of the ongoing questions surrounding his birth certificate.<ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=280533 "Trump: Obama spending millions to hide his past"] (March 28, 2011). WorldNetDaily website.</ref> Trump questioned whether the Obama Administration was successful in negotiating with foreign countries.

====Department of Education====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, he stated that he wants to eliminate the Department of Education.<ref name=Educ/>

====Foreign policy====
Trump wants to improve relationships with [[Russia]]n president [[Vladimir Putin]].<ref>Johnson, Simon (July 31, 2015). [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11775145/Donald-Trump-Id-get-on-very-well-with-Putin-if-I-were-president.html "Donald Trump: I'd get on 'very well' with Putin if I were president"]. The Telegraph [U.K.] website.</ref>

Trump says the [[Iran]] deal is bad, but as president he would enforce it anyway.

====Global warming====

Trump does not believe in the [[Climate Change]] hysteria, once stating the "Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from [[Al Gore]]."

====Second Amendment rights====

Trump is strongly pro-[[Second Amendment]] and against [[leftist]] [[gun control]] and gun free zones. As president, Trump has promised to re-arm military personnel on all American military bases as well as [[ROTC]] recruitment centers, which were disarmed by the [[Clinton Administration]] policy.<ref name=Educ/>

====Homosexual agenda====

For all practical purposes, Trump seems to be on the side of the [[homosexual agenda]]. He supports the creation of new law by the [[U.S. Supreme Court]], as in a new right to [[homosexual marriage]], and declares it the "law of the land" even though Congress passed no such law.

Trump has attended multiple [[same-sex marriage]] ceremonies, but has also said in the past that he opposes same-sex marriage. Trump's views are not yet known on other aspects of the [[homosexual agenda]], such as whether Trump would ban [[conversion therapy]] for minors as [[Chris Christie]] did. The [[Fox News Channel]] debate in August avoided these issues, but future debates will probably require Trump to declare his position.

====Immigration====

See the discussion in the introduction above. This is Trump's main campaign issue.

A central part of his immigration plan is to build a giant wall on the border with Mexico. Trump estimates it will cost $8 billion, approximately 35 to 40 feet high and stretch 2000 miles. <ref>[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/09/donald-trump-the-wall-is-probably-8-billion Trump Border Wall]</ref>

Trump has also proposed to temporarily ban [[Muslims]] from entering the United States, until "our leaders figure out what the hell is going on," in order to protect Americans from the threats posed by [[Islamic]] [[refugee|refugees]] (and those pretending to be<ref>[http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/isis-fighters-infiltrating-syrian-refugees-uk-is-warned/article/2572051 ISIS fighters infiltrating Syrian refugees, UK is warned]</ref>) entering the country.<ref>[http://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/donald-trump-insists-muslim-ban-is-about-safety-not-religion Donald Trump Insists Muslim Ban Is About Safety, Not Religion]</ref>

====Political contributions====

He has been criticized for his substantial contributions to [[Democrat]] lawmakers; the majority of those lawmakers are located in the states he resides in: New York and Florida. The amount he has donated since 2008 is $25,000, which is insignficant considering his wealth.<ref>Allin, Olivia (April 30, 2011). [http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Donald-Trump-calls-nations-leaders-stupid-people-and-blood-sucking-politicians/8104644 "OTRC: Donald Trump calls nation's leaders 'stupid people' and 'blood-sucking politicians'"]. OnTheRedCarpet [news]. Retrieved from ABC7 [KABC Television, Los Angeles] website.</ref>

====Tariffs====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, he stated that he supports a 25% tariff on Chinese goods.<ref name=Educ/> The number floated around in 2016 is a 45% tariff. Trump was speaking in regards to China and the [[World Trade Organization]], <ref>[http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-finance-ministerlou-jiwei-takes-aim-at-donald-trumps-trade-policies-1460892988 Chinese Finance Minister Lou Jiwei Takes Aim at Donald Trump’s Trade Policies, WallStreetJournal, April 17, 2016]</ref>

{{cquote|In a statement from his campaign, Mr. Trump charged that [[China]] was “in total violation of WTO regulations” and that the U.S. “has incompetently allowed them to get away with this” and has failed to impose “equal or greater taxes and tariffs” on China. If he is elected president, Mr. Trump said, China “will learn to deal fairly and justly or we will not deal at all” with Beijing.}}

====Vaccines====
Trump believes that [[vaccines]] cause [[autism]]<ref>Ferris, Sarah (September 16, 2015). [http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/253980-trump-links-vaccines-to-autism-epidemic "Trump links vaccines to autism 'epidemic'"]. The Hill website/Policy/Healthcare.</ref> and has argued against requiring that so many vaccines be given to infants.
==== Eminent domain====
Trump believes that the government has the right to take private property upon paying just compensation for both infrastructure and to promote economic development.
==== Supreme Court====
Trump opposes filling the Supreme Court seat held by [[Antonin Scalia]] before the next President takes office. When asked who he might select to the Supreme Court, he said that his sister, a sitting federal court judge, would make a great Supreme Court justice.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/423196/trump-praises-his-sister-pro-abortion-extremist-judge-ramesh-ponnuru|title=Trump Praises His Sister, a Pro-Abortion Extremist Judge|date=Aug 27, 2015|accessdate=February 21, 2016}}</ref>

==Books==
''Trump: The Art of the Deal'' with Tony Schwartz (1987) 
''Trump: Surviving at the Top'' with Charles Leerhsen (1990) 
''Trump: The Art of the Comeback'' with Kate Bohner (1997) 
''The America We Deserve'' with Dave Shiflett (2000) 
''Trump: How to Get Rich'' with Meredith McIver (2004) 
''Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know about Success, Real Estate and Life'' with Meredith McIver (2005) 
''Why We Want You to Be Rich: Two Men, One Message'' with Meredith McIver and Robert T. Kiyosaki (2006) 
''Think Big and Kick Ass in Business and Life'' with Bill Zanker (2007) 
''Trump: Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success'' with Meredith McIver (2008) 
''Think Like a Champion: An Informal Education in Business and Life'' with Meredith McIver (2009) 
''Midas Touch: Why Some Entrepreneurs Get Rich—and Why Most Don't'' with Robert T. Kiyosaki (2011) 
''Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again'' (2011) 
''Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again'' (2015)

==Quotes from the 2016 campaign for President==

Trump's tactics of naming and shaming candidates has been proven very effective. He called Jeb Bush 'low-energy Jeb' and it stuck. Then came Marco Rubio as 'Little Marco.' Next came 'Lyin' Ted' for Ted Cruz. For the Democrats, he calls Hillary Clinton 'Crooked Hillary'. He doesn't give Bernie Sanders the same treatment though he has referred to him as a Communist.

*"I think we have a president who, as a president, is totally incompetent, and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I think he has no idea what he’s doing. And our country is going to [[hell]]."<ref>http://time.com/4210983/republican-debate-barack-obama-incompetent/</ref>
*"I will be the greatest jobs president that [[God]] ever created."
*"I’m using my own money. I’m not using the lobbyists. I’m not using donors. I don’t care. I’m really rich."
*"Free trade is terrible. Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people. But we have stupid people."
*"Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump. Nobody. Within our military, I will find the General Patton, or I will find General MacArthur, I will find the right guy."
*"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have [[Mexico]] pay for that wall."
*"I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct."<ref>http://video.foxnews.com/v/4406746003001/watch-a-replay-of-fox-news-prime-time-presidential-debate/?#sp=show-clips</ref><ref>https://www.google.com/search?q=a+big+problem+with+our+country+is+too+politically+incorrect&oq=a+big+problem+with+our+country+is+too+politically+incorrect&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l3.8295j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8</ref>

==Quotes from Twitter==
[[File:Screenshot 2015-09-28-12-11-31-1.png|right|300px|Thumb|Tweet from Billionaire Carl Icahn]]

{{Cquote| '''Somebody said I’m the Ernest Hemingway of 140 characters.'''}}

* "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (August 6, 2012, 1:23 pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/232572505238433794 "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
* "It’s amazing how people can talk about me but I’m not allowed to talk about them."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (November 13, 2012, 12:23pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/268449146711703553 "It’s amazing how people can talk about me but I’m not allowed to talk about them."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
* "This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (January 1, 2014, 4:39pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/418542137899491328 "This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
====2015====
* "So many 'politically correct' fools in our country. We have to all get back to work and stop wasting time and energy on nonsense!" (August 8, 2015)
* "Notice that illegal immigrants will be given ObamaCare and free college tuition but nothing has been mentioned about our VETERANS #DemDebate" (October 13, 2015)
* "They laughed at me when I said to bomb the ISIS controlled oil fields. Now they are not laughing and doing what I said." (November 13, 2015)
* "President Obama said 'ISIL continues to shrink' in an interview just hours before the horrible attack in Paris. He is just so bad! CHANGE." (November 14, 2015)
* "Refugees from Syria are now pouring into our great country. Who knows who they are - some could be ISIS. Is our president insane?" (November 17, 2015)
* "Eight Syrians were just caught on the southern border trying to get into the U.S. ISIS maybe? I told you so. WE NEED A BIG & BEAUTIFUL WALL!" (November 19, 2015)
====2016====
* "Hillary said that guns don't keep you safe. If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!" (January 3, 2016)
* "I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!" (February 20, 2016)
* "The organized group of people, many of them thugs, who shut down our First Amendment rights in Chicago, have totally energized America!" (March 12, 2016)
* "Why is it that the horrendous protesters, who scream, curse punch, shut down roads/doors during my RALLIES, are never blamed by media? SAD!" (March 20, 2016)
* "Do you all remember how beautiful and safe a place Brussels was. Not anymore, it is from a different world! U.S. must be vigilant and smart!" (March 22, 2016)
* "For the 1st time in American history, America’s 16,500 border patrol agents have issue[d] a presidential primary endorsement—me! Thank you." (April 1, 2016)

==Other quotes==
* "[T]he country is going to hell."<ref>Cassidy, Chris (March 19, 2015). [http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/03/country_is_going_to_hell_claims_donald_trump "'Country is going to hell,' claims Donald Trump"]. BostonHerald.com website.</ref>
* "We have no leader in this country.”<ref>Reisner, Hiram (April 22, 2011). [http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/donaldtrump-karlrove-gop-birther/2011/04/22/id/393742 "Trump: I'd just take Libyan oil"]. NewsMax website.</ref>
* "Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people."<ref>Pierce, Tony (April 29, 2011). [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/donald-trump-in-vegas-our-leaders-are-stupid-they-are-stupid-people.html "Donald Trump in Vegas: 'Our leaders are stupid; they are stupid people'"]. Los Angeles Times website/Top of the Ticket blog.</ref>
* "I can tell you I am [the 2012 Obama campaign's] worst nightmare."<ref>Mooney, Alexander (April 11, 2011). [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/trump-says-he-is-obama-campaigns-worst-nightmare/comment-page-6/ "Trump says he is Obama campaign's worst nightmare"]. Cable News Network website/politicalticker blog.</ref>
* "Obama has no solutions."<ref>Coz, Steve (August 19, 2012). [http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-gibbs-fox-obama/2012/08/19/id/449050/ "Trump fires back at Obama campaign smear"]. Newsmax website/Newsfront.</ref>

==See also==
* [[Donald Trump's religious views]]
* [[The Chalkening]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==External Links==
* [http://www.trump.com Official website]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg The Untruth About Donald Trump] by [[Stefan Molyneux]], Published on Jan 18, 2016
* [http://www.untruthaboutdonaldtrump.com UntruthAboutDonaldTrump.com]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyoauXmzjg Do Emotions Trump Facts?] [[Thomas Sowell]] on Donald Trump - Rebutted! by Stefan Molyneux
* [http://shouldtrumprun.com/ Should Donald Run? Polling]
* [http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/04/trump-explains-conversion-on-abortion.html Trump explains his pro-life conversion]
* [https://www.donaldjtrump.com Donald Trump 2016 campaign website]

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[[File:Donald John Trump.jpg|200px|right|thumbnail|Donald J. Trump]]
'''Donald J. Trump''' (b. [[Queens]], [[New York]], on June 14, 1946), nickname "The Donald," (or simply - "The Don") is a successful businessman, entrepreneur, outspoken politician, and [[television]] personality. He the presumed nominee for the [[Republican Party]] in the [[2016 presidential election]].

Trump has engaged in many financial pursuits and estimates that his net worth is $10 billion.<ref>LoGiurato, Brett (July 25, 2015). [http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-net-worth-2015-7 "We finally know a lot more about Donald Trump's 'massive' net worth"]. Business Insider website.</ref> He graduated from the New York Military Academy in 1964 and first attended college at [[Fordham University]] for two years before transferring to the more competitive [[University of Pennsylvania]] and then completing his studies at the prestigious Wharton School of Finance and Commerce. Trump has five children.

On June 16, 2015, he declared his candidacy for the Republican nomination in the [[2016 presidential election]].<ref>[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/16/trump-announces-white-house-bid-joins-crowded-gop-field/ "Trump announces White House bid, joins crowded GOP field"] (June 16, 2015). Fox News website/Politics. The front-runner in a record-breaking field of 17 [[Republican]] candidates, Trump announced that he did not anticipate "throwing punches" against his rivals in the first GOP debate. Chiacu, Donna and Torbati, Yeganeh (August 2, 2015). [http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/02/us-usa-election-debate-idUSKCN0Q70NI20150802 "Trump says won't be 'throwing punches' in U.S. Republican debate"]. But at the debate the [[Fox News Channel]]—particularly its [[feminist]] non-journalist [[Megyn Kelly]]—ambushed Trump with out-of-context quotations designed to smear him as somehow being anti-women. This ignited a national controversy that lasted for days, and Trump called upon Kelly to apologize, which she refused to do.</ref> Unlike most other U.S presidential candidates, Trump sharply criticizes the media and talks about issues that no elected official dares touch. For example, Trump stands up against [[feminists]], unlike most politicians. In another example, in 2011 Trump persistently doubted whether [[Barack Obama]] had been born in the [[United States]], which caused Obama's approval ratings to drop below 40% until Obama finally caved in to Trump and produced what Obama claimed was his birth certificate. Trump then scoffed at Obama's conduct.

In February 2011, Trump announced that he is [[pro-life]].<ref>But on August 11, 2015, he indicated that he might support taxpayer funding of [[Planned Parenthood]] for its non-[[abortion]] activities (which builds its brand and funds its overhead).</ref> During the campaign for the Republican nomination, Trump called for women who had [[abortion]]s to be punished for doing so. He quickly flip-flopped on that statement, saying instead that doctors who provide abortions should be punished, not the women who have them. <ref>[https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-regarding-abortion Donald Trump press release]</ref>. He later asserted that there should be no federal ban on abortions. <ref>[http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/01/politics/donald-trump-abortion-laws/index.html]"Trump says federal laws should not be changed to outlaw abortion," CNN.com, 1 April 2016.</ref>

Trump's central campaign theme has been to oppose [[illegal immigration]], and he enlisted Senator [[Jeff Sessions]] as an adviser on this issue. As reported by [[Breitbart News Network|Breitbart]], "Sen. Sessions, Chairman of the Senate’s Immigration Subcommittee, is widely regarded as the gold standard on immigration. Sessions has also become the intellectual thought leader in the Republican Party on appealing to the blue collar voters who have been abandoned by their political leaders." <ref>Hahn, Julia (August 14, 2015). [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/14/game-change-trump-consults-with-sen-jeff-sessions-on-immigration-strategy/ "Game change: Trump consults with Sen Jeff Sessions on immigration strategy"]. Breitbart website/Big government.</ref> However, in recent months, Trump has focused more on [[ISIS]] and terrorism.

In the 2015 [[Value Voters Debate|Value Voters]] poll, Trump performed poorly, coming in fifth, indicating many [[Christian]] [[conservatives]] had not yet warmed up to him.<ref>Flores, Reena (September 26, 2015). [http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-conservative-poll-donald-trump-could-not-win/ "The conservative poll Donald Trump could not win"]. CBSNews website.</ref> Trump is a big supporter of [[gambling]], which most [[conservatives]] oppose. But by 2016 Trump was winning more support from [[evangelical]]s than any other Republican candidate.

==Early life==

Donald Trump attended the First [[Presbyterian]] Church in Jamaica, [[Queens]]. He told the [[Christian Broadcasting Network]] that he still considers himself a [[Presbyterian]] and attends services for all major holidays and Sundays, and that "The [[Bible]] is certainly THE book." He receives Bibles from fans in the mail, and he either stores them or gives them away to others.<ref>Haberman, Maggie (April 11, 2011). [http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52942.html "Donald Trump talks about religion"]. Politico website.</ref>

==Career==
[[File:031711trump.jpg|right]]
Donald Trump began his career at Trump Organization. In his college years, he helped revitalize one of his father's failing real estate ventures. Trump began opening hotels and casinos, which provided him with the cash flow to engage in other ventures. He owns the world-famous Trump Tower and is the founder of the publicly traded Trump Hotel Casinos & Resorts. Trump also owns the Trump brand, which sells a variety of items, such as bottled water, steak, and even mortgages. Trump has authored a number of books and weathered changing business fortunes, but despite the challenges that he has encountered, he has continued to be a successful businessman and entrepreneur.

Trump considered [[presidential election 2012|running for President in 2012]] as a [[Republican]]. He, among others, questioned the citizenship of [[Barack Obama]], citing his failure to produce his birth certificate. After Obama produced his birth certificate, Trump and the other [[birther]]s continue to doubt its authenticity. Obama's approval ratings were around 40% during the peak of the controversy. Trump later exited the race, and gave the customary endorsement to [[Mitt Romney]] as the other [[Republican]] contenders did.

==Major properties==

*Trump World Tower: 845 United Nations Plaza, New York, NY.

*Trump Tower: 725 Fifth Ave, New York, NY 10022 Personal Residence

*Trump Taj Mahal

*Trump Marina

*Bank of America Center (San Francisco)

*The Trump Building at 40 Wall Street

*Trump Plaza

*Trump Park Avenue

*Trump Entertainment Resorts

*TrumpStreet Casino & Entertainment Complex, Philadelphia

*AXA Financial Center, 1290 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY

*Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago

*Trump International Hotel & Casino Las Vegas

*Mar-A-Lago Palm Beach

*Four golf courses in the U.S.

==Media==
[[File:Donald Trump star.JPG|thumbnail|left|Hollywood Walk of Fame]]
In 2003 Trump began as the host and executive producer of the reality [[television]] show ''The Apprentice'' and ''The Celebrity Apprentice'', where contestants compete for a position in Trump's organization. On this show, Trump popularized his catchphrase "You're fired!"

Trump owns the Miss Universe Pageant. Controversy arose when one of the winners, Tara Conner, was caught breaking pageant rules by drinking and other activities. Trump gave her a second chance after personally speaking with her and allowed her to retain her crown as she attended rehabilitation. For several weeks after this, [[Rosie O'Donnell]] berated Trump for his decision on ''The View''. A bitter media war ensued with the two exchanging insults.

Trump has made many guest appearances, usually as himself, on many TV shows and in several movies.

Childish [[liberals]] are vandalizing Trump's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame three times a day. A person asked about the vandalism said Trump has it coming. <ref>[http://video.breitbart.com/?ndn.trackingGroup=90085&ndn.siteSection=breitbart2slider_nws_us_sec&ndn.videoId=30599129&freewheel=90085&sitesection=breitbart2slider_nws_us_sec&vid=30599129 Trump Walk of Fame Star vandalized daily]</ref>

==Political positions==

====Abortion====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, Trump announced he is [[pro-life]].<ref>Rahn, Will (February 10, 2011). [http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/10/trump-at-cpac-points-to-white-house-run/ "Trump at CPAC points to White House run"]. The Daily Caller website.</ref>

====Affordable Care Act====

Trump intends to "repeal and replace" [[Obamacare]].<ref name=Educ>Breitbart.tv (February 9, 2011). [http://www.breitbart.com/video/2011/02/09/pro-life-donald-trump-would-eliminate-dept-of-education-impose-25-tax-on-china-imports-if-president/ "Pro-life Donald Trump would eliminate Dept of Education, impose 25% tax on China imports if president"]. Breitbart.com.</ref> However, Trump has also said, "I like the mandate,"<ref>[http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/19/trump-on-obamacare-i-like-the-mandate-video/ "Trump On Obamacare: ‘I Like The Mandate’"]</ref> so it is difficult to tell how he would deal with the law as President.

====Controversy with Barack Obama====

Trump has also questioned Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to be President, in light of the ongoing questions surrounding his birth certificate.<ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=280533 "Trump: Obama spending millions to hide his past"] (March 28, 2011). WorldNetDaily website.</ref> Trump questioned whether the Obama Administration was successful in negotiating with foreign countries.

====Department of Education====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, he stated that he wants to eliminate the Department of Education.<ref name=Educ/>

====Foreign policy====
Trump wants to improve relationships with [[Russia]]n president [[Vladimir Putin]].<ref>Johnson, Simon (July 31, 2015). [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11775145/Donald-Trump-Id-get-on-very-well-with-Putin-if-I-were-president.html "Donald Trump: I'd get on 'very well' with Putin if I were president"]. The Telegraph [U.K.] website.</ref>

Trump says the [[Iran]] deal is bad, but as president he would enforce it anyway.

====Global warming====

Trump does not believe in the [[Climate Change]] hysteria, once stating the "Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from [[Al Gore]]."

====Second Amendment rights====

Trump is strongly pro-[[Second Amendment]] and against [[leftist]] [[gun control]] and gun free zones. As president, Trump has promised to re-arm military personnel on all American military bases as well as [[ROTC]] recruitment centers, which were disarmed by the [[Clinton Administration]] policy.<ref name=Educ/>

====Homosexual agenda====

For all practical purposes, Trump seems to be on the side of the [[homosexual agenda]]. He supports the creation of new law by the [[U.S. Supreme Court]], as in a new right to [[homosexual marriage]], and declares it the "law of the land" even though Congress passed no such law.

Trump has attended multiple [[same-sex marriage]] ceremonies, but has also said in the past that he opposes same-sex marriage. Trump's views are not yet known on other aspects of the [[homosexual agenda]], such as whether Trump would ban [[conversion therapy]] for minors as [[Chris Christie]] did. The [[Fox News Channel]] debate in August avoided these issues, but future debates will probably require Trump to declare his position.

====Immigration====

See the discussion in the introduction above. This is Trump's main campaign issue.

A central part of his immigration plan is to build a giant wall on the border with Mexico. Trump estimates it will cost $8 billion, approximately 35 to 40 feet high and stretch 2000 miles. <ref>[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/09/donald-trump-the-wall-is-probably-8-billion Trump Border Wall]</ref>

Trump has also proposed to temporarily ban [[Muslims]] from entering the United States, until "our leaders figure out what the hell is going on," in order to protect Americans from the threats posed by [[Islamic]] [[refugee|refugees]] (and those pretending to be<ref>[http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/isis-fighters-infiltrating-syrian-refugees-uk-is-warned/article/2572051 ISIS fighters infiltrating Syrian refugees, UK is warned]</ref>) entering the country.<ref>[http://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/donald-trump-insists-muslim-ban-is-about-safety-not-religion Donald Trump Insists Muslim Ban Is About Safety, Not Religion]</ref>

====Political contributions====

He has been criticized for his substantial contributions to [[Democrat]] lawmakers; the majority of those lawmakers are located in the states he resides in: New York and Florida. The amount he has donated since 2008 is $25,000, which is insignficant considering his wealth.<ref>Allin, Olivia (April 30, 2011). [http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Donald-Trump-calls-nations-leaders-stupid-people-and-blood-sucking-politicians/8104644 "OTRC: Donald Trump calls nation's leaders 'stupid people' and 'blood-sucking politicians'"]. OnTheRedCarpet [news]. Retrieved from ABC7 [KABC Television, Los Angeles] website.</ref>

====Tariffs====

At the 2011 [[CPAC]] conference, he stated that he supports a 25% tariff on Chinese goods.<ref name=Educ/> The number floated around in 2016 is a 45% tariff. Trump was speaking in regards to China and the [[World Trade Organization]], <ref>[http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese-finance-ministerlou-jiwei-takes-aim-at-donald-trumps-trade-policies-1460892988 Chinese Finance Minister Lou Jiwei Takes Aim at Donald Trump’s Trade Policies, WallStreetJournal, April 17, 2016]</ref>

{{cquote|In a statement from his campaign, Mr. Trump charged that [[China]] was “in total violation of WTO regulations” and that the U.S. “has incompetently allowed them to get away with this” and has failed to impose “equal or greater taxes and tariffs” on China. If he is elected president, Mr. Trump said, China “will learn to deal fairly and justly or we will not deal at all” with Beijing.}}

====Vaccines====
Trump believes that [[vaccines]] cause [[autism]]<ref>Ferris, Sarah (September 16, 2015). [http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/253980-trump-links-vaccines-to-autism-epidemic "Trump links vaccines to autism 'epidemic'"]. The Hill website/Policy/Healthcare.</ref> and has argued against requiring that so many vaccines be given to infants.
==== Eminent domain====
Trump believes that the government has the right to take private property upon paying just compensation for both infrastructure and to promote economic development.
==== Supreme Court====
Trump opposes filling the Supreme Court seat held by [[Antonin Scalia]] before the next President takes office. When asked who he might select to the Supreme Court, he said that his sister, a sitting federal court judge, would make a great Supreme Court justice.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/423196/trump-praises-his-sister-pro-abortion-extremist-judge-ramesh-ponnuru|title=Trump Praises His Sister, a Pro-Abortion Extremist Judge|date=Aug 27, 2015|accessdate=February 21, 2016}}</ref>

==Books==
''Trump: The Art of the Deal'' with Tony Schwartz (1987) 
''Trump: Surviving at the Top'' with Charles Leerhsen (1990) 
''Trump: The Art of the Comeback'' with Kate Bohner (1997) 
''The America We Deserve'' with Dave Shiflett (2000) 
''Trump: How to Get Rich'' with Meredith McIver (2004) 
''Trump: Think Like a Billionaire: Everything You Need to Know about Success, Real Estate and Life'' with Meredith McIver (2005) 
''Why We Want You to Be Rich: Two Men, One Message'' with Meredith McIver and Robert T. Kiyosaki (2006) 
''Think Big and Kick Ass in Business and Life'' with Bill Zanker (2007) 
''Trump: Never Give Up: How I Turned My Biggest Challenges into Success'' with Meredith McIver (2008) 
''Think Like a Champion: An Informal Education in Business and Life'' with Meredith McIver (2009) 
''Midas Touch: Why Some Entrepreneurs Get Rich—and Why Most Don't'' with Robert T. Kiyosaki (2011) 
''Time to Get Tough: Making America #1 Again'' (2011) 
''Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again'' (2015)

==Quotes from the 2016 campaign for President==

Trump's tactics of naming and shaming candidates has been proven very effective. He called Jeb Bush 'low-energy Jeb' and it stuck. Then came Marco Rubio as 'Little Marco.' Next came 'Lyin' Ted' for Ted Cruz. For the Democrats, he calls Hillary Clinton 'Crooked Hillary'. He doesn't give Bernie Sanders the same treatment though he has referred to him as a Communist.

*"I think we have a president who, as a president, is totally incompetent, and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I think he has no idea what he’s doing. And our country is going to [[hell]]."<ref>http://time.com/4210983/republican-debate-barack-obama-incompetent/</ref>
*"I will be the greatest jobs president that [[God]] ever created."
*"I’m using my own money. I’m not using the lobbyists. I’m not using donors. I don’t care. I’m really rich."
*"Free trade is terrible. Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people. But we have stupid people."
*"Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump. Nobody. Within our military, I will find the General Patton, or I will find General MacArthur, I will find the right guy."
*"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have [[Mexico]] pay for that wall."
*"I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct."<ref>http://video.foxnews.com/v/4406746003001/watch-a-replay-of-fox-news-prime-time-presidential-debate/?#sp=show-clips</ref><ref>https://www.google.com/search?q=a+big+problem+with+our+country+is+too+politically+incorrect&oq=a+big+problem+with+our+country+is+too+politically+incorrect&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64l3.8295j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8</ref>

==Quotes from Twitter==
[[File:Screenshot 2015-09-28-12-11-31-1.png|right|300px|Thumb|Tweet from Billionaire Carl Icahn]]

{{Cquote| '''Somebody said I’m the Ernest Hemingway of 140 characters.'''}}

* "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (August 6, 2012, 1:23 pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/232572505238433794 "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
* "It’s amazing how people can talk about me but I’m not allowed to talk about them."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (November 13, 2012, 12:23pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/268449146711703553 "It’s amazing how people can talk about me but I’m not allowed to talk about them."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
* "This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."<ref>Trump, Donald J. (January 1, 2014, 4:39pm). [http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/418542137899491328 "This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."] Tweet by @realDonaldTrump.</ref>
====2015====
* "So many 'politically correct' fools in our country. We have to all get back to work and stop wasting time and energy on nonsense!" (August 8, 2015)
* "Notice that illegal immigrants will be given ObamaCare and free college tuition but nothing has been mentioned about our VETERANS #DemDebate" (October 13, 2015)
* "They laughed at me when I said to bomb the ISIS controlled oil fields. Now they are not laughing and doing what I said." (November 13, 2015)
* "President Obama said 'ISIL continues to shrink' in an interview just hours before the horrible attack in Paris. He is just so bad! CHANGE." (November 14, 2015)
* "Refugees from Syria are now pouring into our great country. Who knows who they are - some could be ISIS. Is our president insane?" (November 17, 2015)
* "Eight Syrians were just caught on the southern border trying to get into the U.S. ISIS maybe? I told you so. WE NEED A BIG & BEAUTIFUL WALL!" (November 19, 2015)
====2016====
* "Hillary said that guns don't keep you safe. If she really believes that she should demand that her heavily armed bodyguards quickly disarm!" (January 3, 2016)
* "I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!" (February 20, 2016)
* "The organized group of people, many of them thugs, who shut down our First Amendment rights in Chicago, have totally energized America!" (March 12, 2016)
* "Why is it that the horrendous protesters, who scream, curse punch, shut down roads/doors during my RALLIES, are never blamed by media? SAD!" (March 20, 2016)
* "Do you all remember how beautiful and safe a place Brussels was. Not anymore, it is from a different world! U.S. must be vigilant and smart!" (March 22, 2016)
* "For the 1st time in American history, America’s 16,500 border patrol agents have issue[d] a presidential primary endorsement—me! Thank you." (April 1, 2016)

==Other quotes==
* "[T]he country is going to hell."<ref>Cassidy, Chris (March 19, 2015). [http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2015/03/country_is_going_to_hell_claims_donald_trump "'Country is going to hell,' claims Donald Trump"]. BostonHerald.com website.</ref>
* "We have no leader in this country.”<ref>Reisner, Hiram (April 22, 2011). [http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/donaldtrump-karlrove-gop-birther/2011/04/22/id/393742 "Trump: I'd just take Libyan oil"]. NewsMax website.</ref>
* "Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people."<ref>Pierce, Tony (April 29, 2011). [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/donald-trump-in-vegas-our-leaders-are-stupid-they-are-stupid-people.html "Donald Trump in Vegas: 'Our leaders are stupid; they are stupid people'"]. Los Angeles Times website/Top of the Ticket blog.</ref>
* "I can tell you I am [the 2012 Obama campaign's] worst nightmare."<ref>Mooney, Alexander (April 11, 2011). [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/trump-says-he-is-obama-campaigns-worst-nightmare/comment-page-6/ "Trump says he is Obama campaign's worst nightmare"]. Cable News Network website/politicalticker blog.</ref>
* "Obama has no solutions."<ref>Coz, Steve (August 19, 2012). [http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-gibbs-fox-obama/2012/08/19/id/449050/ "Trump fires back at Obama campaign smear"]. Newsmax website/Newsfront.</ref>

==See also==
* [[Donald Trump's religious views]]
* [[The Chalkening]]

==References==
{{reflist|2}}

==External Links==
* [http://www.trump.com Official website]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg The Untruth About Donald Trump] by [[Stefan Molyneux]], Published on Jan 18, 2016
* [http://www.untruthaboutdonaldtrump.com UntruthAboutDonaldTrump.com]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyoauXmzjg Do Emotions Trump Facts?] [[Thomas Sowell]] on Donald Trump - Rebutted! by Stefan Molyneux
* [http://shouldtrumprun.com/ Should Donald Run? Polling]
* [http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/04/trump-explains-conversion-on-abortion.html Trump explains his pro-life conversion]
* [https://www.donaldjtrump.com Donald Trump 2016 campaign website]

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All in the Family

2016-04-15T06:34:38Z

GerryV: wrong its

'''All in the Family''' was a popular [[liberal]] situation-comedy which aired on [[CBS]] from 1971 until 1979, created by left-wing producer [[Norman Lear]], and starring the late actor [[Carrol O'Connor]] as bigot [[Archie Bunker]]. It also starred [[Jean Stapleton]] as Archie's wife, Edith, [[Sally Struthers]] as their daughter, Gloria, and [[Rob Reiner]] as the liberal son-in-law Michael Stevich. The show's storylines featured Archie, inaccurately portrayed as a [[conservative]] bigot, engaging in constant arguments and debates with Mike Stevich (nick-named "Meathead" by Archie), most especially regarding Archie's [[racist]] tendencies and stereotypes. It was an adaptation of the English [[BBC]] sit-com ''Till' Death Do Us Part'', of which Lear was a fan.

''All in the Family'' was notable at the time of its airing for being the first show to feature controversial storylines focused on the political themes of [[racism]], [[homosexuality]], [[abortion]] and [[feminism]], among other topics, on mainstream American television. This reflects the time period during the early 1970's, during which [[Hollywood]]'s sharp [[Hollywood Values|turn to radical left-wing political themes]] in both film and television during the era of the [[Vietnam War]] saw a shift from [[conservative]] TV shows featuring strong moral and family values (such as [[westerns]] like ''[[Bonanza]]'' and ''[[The Rifleman]]'') towards liberal urban-set dramas and sit-coms, which also included ''[[The Jeffersons]]'' and ''[[Good Times]]'' (also created by Norman Lear).

While ''All in the Family'' is today considered to be a "groundbreaking" show in the history of television by the [[liberal media]], it is also viewed by conservatives as a glaring reminder of Hollywood's sharp turn to the left during the late 1960's and early 1970's.

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Firefighting

2016-04-15T06:12:38Z

GerryV: American spelling

[[Image:Chicago fire fighters.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Chicago Fire Department firefighters]]
'''Firefighting''' is the attempt to minimise injury or loss of life, or damage to property, caused by a [[fire]], either by extinguishing the fire or ensuring its containment.

Firefighters or firemen are those whose job it is to attempt to extinguish fires in a given area. Firefighters can either be paid (professional), or [[volunteer]]. In many rural areas and smaller communities, fire departments are volunteer, while in many large cities they are professional. In most places, firefighters also perform other [[emergency]] service work, including [[search and rescue]], and emergency [[medical]] services. Many firefighters are also certified as [[EMT]]s (Emergency Medical Technicians) or [[paramedics]].

==Types of firefighting==
'''Structural firefighting''' is fighting fires involving [[building]]s and other structures. Most city firefighting is structural firefighting. Structural firefighting is what most people think of when they think of what their local "fire department" does.

'''Wildland firefighting''' is fighting [[forest]] fires, brush or bush fires, and fires in other undeveloped areas. The [[United States Forest Service]] and other government agencies which administer public lands hire a large number of wildland firefighters every [[summer]], when fire conditions are at their peak.

'''Proximity firefighting''' is fighting fires in situations where the fire produces a very high level of heat, such as [[aircraft]] and some [[chemical]] fires. Proximity firefighting is not the same thing as structural firefighting and in some (but not all) cases takes place outdoors.

'''Entry firefighting''' is a highly specialized form of firefighting involving the actual direct entry of firefighters into a fire with a very high level of heat. It is not the same thing as proximity firefighting, although it is used in many of the same situations (such as flammable liquid fires).

== Methods and equipment ==
Three elements necessary for a fire to burn: [[oxygen]], [[fuel]], and a source of heat.
Remove any one of the three and the fire can no longer burn. (See [[Fire#Physics of fire|Fire]].)
All firefighting tactics are based on removing one or more of the three elements in the fire triangle.

Fire fighting involves a range of methods and equipment for fighting fires, depending on the circumstances and availability.

'''Water:''' The standard method is to pour water onto the fire.
This reduces the heat, hopefully to the point that the fire can no longer burn.
However, water is not suitable for liquid fuel fires, because it is likely to spread the fuel and make the fire larger, nor for electrical fires, because of the risk of electric shock.

'''Foam:''' Foam is put onto fires fueled by liquid fuel.
It works by preventing oxygen getting to the fire, but does not spread the fuel around.

'''Powder:''' Powder is used on electrical fires, as it does not conduct electricity.
Like foam, it works by cutting off the oxygen supply to the fire.

'''Gas:''' Non-combustible gases are sometimes used in fire-suppression systems installed in buildings.
They work by being heavier than air, thus displacing the oxygen.
However, because the oxygen is displaced from the building, humans are unable to survive for long either, so gas systems are only used in special circumstances.

'''Fire beaters and rakes:''' Fire beaters and rakes are low-tech ways to fight small fire in [[scrub]].
They work by spreading the fire out, thus reducing the concentration of heat, and by removing the source of fuel from the fire.

'''Extinguishers:''' Fire extinguishers are canisters of water, foam, or powder which can be carried by one person to the fire.
They are of limited capacity, but can be used to stop a fire before it becomes large.
See the "Extinguishers" section below.

'''Vehicles:''' Various vehicles are used by fire fighters, including trucks which pump water from a nearby supply onto a fire, and tankers which carry water to the site of the fire when no local supply is available.

'''Fire breaks:''' For fires in forested areas, [[bulldozer]]s or other heavy equipment may be used to cut a clear path through the forest in front of an advancing fire, or such fire breaks may be permanently maintained in forested areas.
Fire breaks provide an area with little fuel content, for the purpose of the fire stopping when it reaches the break.
However, strong winds might carry sparks from the fire across the fire break to further forest on the other side.
Even so, it may slow down the fire enough for fire crews to cope with the rest.

'''Back-burning:''' Instead of constructing fire breaks, an area ahead of an advancing fire might be set alight and burnt in a controlled manner to remove the fuel from that area, thus impeding the advance of the main fire.

'''Aircraft:''' Both fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft (helicopters) are used to drop water onto fires, particularly in areas difficult to reach on the ground.

== Extinguishers ==

For small fires, a [[fire extinguisher]] can be used. Remember P.A.S.S. (Pull - Aim - Squeeze - Sweep). Fire extinguishers are rated for the types of fires they are effective against. Class A: ordinary flammable solids, such as [[wood]] and [[paper]]. Class B: flammable [[liquid]]s, such as [[grease]], [[oil]], and [[gasoline]]. Class C: [[electricity|electrical]] fires. Class D: flammable [[metal]]s.

==Vehicles==
The "fire truck" and "fire engine" are two different vehicles, and the terms should not be used interchangeably. In general, fire engines are outfitted to pump [[water]] at a fire. Trucks do not pump water and are outfitted with [[ladder]]s and other equipment for use in [[ventilation]] of the building, rescue, and related activity. In many jurisdictions it is common to have a ladder (or truck) company and an engine company stationed together in the same firehouse, as was depicted in the movie ''Ladder 49''.

==Gear==
* Bunker gear - refers to the set of protective clothing worn by firefighters. This is made of a modern fire-resistant material such as [[Nomex]], and has replaced the old rubber coat which was traditionally worn.
* SCBA, or self-contained breathing apparatus, is worn in any IDLH (immediately dangerous to life or health) situation, which includes entry into burning buildings (where hot air and smoke inhalation present a danger) or any situation involving [[hazardous material]]s exposure. It consists of a breathing mask and a tank of air worn on the back.
* Helmet, boots, gloves
* Tools: traditional hand tools such as the pike, halligan, pulaski, axe, hydrant wrench; power tools such as saws.
* Hoses and nozzles
* Other equipment

==Safety==
* In the [[United States of America]], building standards, firefighting equipment standards, and other standards are set by the [[National Fire Protection Association]], or NFPA.
* "Two in, two out" refers to the rule that firefighters never enter a building or other IDLH situation alone but go in as a pair. Two go in and two come out; also, the two in can refer to the two who enter the building while a backup team of two remains outside the building ready to enter if needed.

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The Chalkening

2016-04-15T05:42:04Z

GerryV: Fixes

'''The Chalkening''' is a campaign launched by [[Donald Trump]] supporters on college campuses that involves writing pro-Trump messages in chalk on campus facilities (a common way to spread messages and announcements at many colleges). The term is a play on ''The Awakening,'' a popular horror movie.

The campaign began after students at [[Emory University]] complained about chalk writings on campus that promoted [[Donald Trump]], including such innocuous slogans as "Trump 2016," and "Make America Great," and the somewhat controversial "Build The Wall," a reference to Trump's campaign promise to build a wall along the [[Mexico|Mexican]] border and force Mexico to pay for it. Students told Emory's dean that the messages frightened them scared; after the story went viral, campus activists campuses across the country began to express thewir support for Trump in chalk.

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The Chalkening

2016-04-15T05:40:55Z

GerryV: Needs to exlain what it is in the first bit, not give the trivia of the name's origins.

'''The Chalkening''' is a campaign launched by [[Donald Trump]] supporters on college campuses that involves writing pro-Trump messages in chalk on campus facilities (a common way to spread messages and announcements at many colleges). The term is a play on ''The Awakening,'' a popular horror movie.

The campaign began after students at [[Emory University]] students complained of chalk writings on campus that promoted [[Donald Trump]], including such innocuous slogans as "Trump 2016," and "Make America Great," and the somewhat controversial "Build The Wall," a reference to Trump's campaign promise to build a wall along the [[Mexico|Mexican]] border and force Mexico to pay for it. Students told Emory's dean that the messages frightened them scared; after the story went viral, campus activists campuses across the country began to express thewir support for Trump in chalk.

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Category talk:Anti Second Amendment

2016-04-15T04:47:16Z

GerryV: /* "France" */

"Try naming one country that imposes gun control that isn't corrupt." Um... Denmark. Holland, Norway. Sweden. Closer to home: New Zealand. Australia. On it goes.... [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 02:44, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

== "France" ==

Is it really meaningful to add countries where the Second Amendment has no relevance (last I checked, no part of the U.S. Constitution applied to France, to pick one example from this list) to this category? [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 02:51, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

:France? Who mentioned France? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 03:13, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
::It jumped off the page at me -- it's listed on this page as being in the category of anti-second amendment." [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 03:28, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

::: I'l start again.... "Try naming one country that imposes gun control that isn't corrupt." Um... Denmark. Holland, Norway. Sweden. Closer to home: New Zealand. Australia. On it goes.....
:[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 03:44, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
[[File:Denmark map.gif|center|200px|thumbnail|[[Copenhagen]] is the largest city and capital of Denmark.
 
 
A 2015 ''Jerusalem Post'' article indicates "Copenhagen has for long been the bestiality capital of Europe and has attracted many tourists mainly visiting to have sex with animals. Legislation against this practice was only enacted this year."]]
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[[File:Flag of Denmark.png|center|200px|thumbnail|[[Denmark]] is the third most atheistic country in the world and the website adherents.com reports that 43 - 80% of Danes are [[agnosticism|agnostics]]/atheists/non-believers in God.
 
In 2009, Suzanne Ost reported in her book published by Cambridge University Press, that the child pornography material produced in [[Denmark]] (and Holland) still constituted the largest part of child pornography that was currently available, having been transferred into digital format and uploaded onto the internet.]]
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[[File:Flag of Sweden.png|thumbnail|200px|center|[[Sweden]] is one of the most atheistic countries in the world. In Sweden, 81 percent of women said they had been harassed at some point after the age of 15 - compared to the EU average of 55 percent.]]
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[[File:Flag of Australia.png|center|thumbnail|200px|The Australian National Council on Drugs (ANCD) report indicated that 20% of Australians drink at levels putting them at risk of lifetime harm.]]
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I hope the above information is of assistance to your discussion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:04, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

:I see your point. - User:GerryV
:Me too. That was of great assistance. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:11, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

::These countries can be anti-gun/pro-gun "control," but "anti-second amendment" seems like a bad category to put other countries in. Besides, the right to have and bear arms is only one of several rights granted in the second amendment. Even if the definition of "anti-second amendment" were stretched to say that other counties not bound by this are still against the principles of it (which I think is , that might not be accurate. Are they also against a "A well regulated militia?" Perhaps, but this is still a stretch. It seems to me they could be categorized as "anti-gun" or "gun control" but categorizing them as "Anti Second Amendment" seems a bit sloppy, unless they are actively fighting against the US' Second Amendment.--[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 09:37, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
:::"Pro Gun Control" seems to be the best fit. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:50, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
::::The biggest problem with TAR's additions to Conservapedia was that he misuses categories and likes to apply easy labels to people, states and nations. The category software feature is good for helping find related articles. If you want to discuss someone's political views, consider adding a sentence or a paragraph to the text of the article. The added text can have a footnote to the source. For example, one politician may oppose abortion in all cases, while a second may want to allow abortion in the case of rape or incest, while a third may allow fetal stem cell research. Similarly with gun control, one politician may want to end all legislation, a second may want instant background checks, and a third may want to ban private ownership of machine guns. If an editor wants to take the time to research someone's views on these issues, then please take the time to write a sentence and add a footnote to the articles. National views are more difficult to categorize than individual views. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 10:02, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
I apologize for having created this controversy. I was making unseemly edits to prove a larger point, and that is well known to be a really bad practice on a wiki.

The point I was so ineptly making is that it is insane to list Nazi Germany on a list of entities that oppose the second amendment to the United States Constitution. The fact that you consider any position favoring gun control to be evil, and that Nazi Germany was evil, doesn't mean you should lump them together in an article. Interesting factoid: Did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian? And that he liked dogs?

The text in this category probably needs a very thorough TAR-cleaning. Or perhaps get rid of the category altogether.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:11, 14 April 2016 (EDT)

:Cons. Sorry mate, it's me again. What is your definition of "corrupt" in any normal survey of nations on the subject? [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 23:33, 14 April 2016 (EDT)
::AlanE, you lost this argument. I know it and you know it. I am not going to stick around and beat your dead horse of an argument further. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:10, 15 April 2016 (EDT)
:::It still seems odd to include France or any other non-US country in a discussion of the Second Amendment, since the US Constitution doesn't really apply to them. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 00:47, 15 April 2016 (EDT)

John Lennox

2016-04-14T19:07:17Z

GerryV: minor edits

[[File:John Lennox.jpg|right|thumb|200px|John Lennox]]
'''John Carson Lennox''' is a professor of Mathematics at [[Oxford University]] and a [[Christian]] apologist. He has publicly debated various atheists including [[Richard Dawkins]] and [[Christopher Hitchens]]. He is particularly interested in the interface of science, philosophy and theology. He lives with his wife Sally near Oxford.

Dr. Lennox received his MA and PhD from [[Cambridge University]] in England.

Dr. Lennox speaks English, Spanish, French, and Russian and is interested in [[astronomy]].

==Publications==
Dr. Lennox has authored many books, including ''God's Undertaker: Has Science buried God?'' (2009), and ''God and Stephen Hawking'' (2011).

== External Links ==
*[http://www.johnlennox.org/ Official Website]

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Eagle Forum

2016-04-14T18:15:43Z

GerryV:

The Eagle Forum is [[Phyllis Schlafly | Phyllis Schlafly's]] conservative political organization. It is the umbrella organization which includes the [[Eagle Forum Education and Legal Defense Fund | Eagle Forum Education and Legal Defense Fund]], the [[Eagle Forum PAC | Eagle Forum Political Action Committee]], and [[Eagle Forum University | Eagle Forum University]].

During the [[2016 Presidential Election|2016 Republican Presidential campaign]], Mrs. Schlafly's support for [[Donald Trump]] led to internal tensions within Eagle Forum's leadership; in Mrs. Schlafly's words, members who opposed her endorsement of Trump attempted "to wrest control of the organization from me" and were "attempting to seize access to Eagle Forum bank accounts, to terminate employees, and to install members of their own Gang of 6 to control the bank accounts and all of Eagle Forum.” <ref>[http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/phyllis-schlafly-survives-coup-over-trump-endorsement/ Jerome Corsi, "Phyliss Schlafly Survives 'Coup' Over Trump Endorsement," WND, 11 April 2016]</ref>

==External links==
*[http://www.eagleforum.org/ Eagle Forum Official Website]
[[Category:Conservative Organizations]]

==References==
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Eagle Forum

2016-04-14T18:15:07Z

GerryV: 2016 update

Category talk:Anti Second Amendment

2016-04-14T07:28:02Z

GerryV: Reply

Category talk:Anti Second Amendment

2016-04-14T06:51:30Z

GerryV: /* "France" */ new section

2016-04-07T18:50:18Z

GerryV:

Trump was nominated for a Nobel prize.[http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-218695]

==Fear of giving offense==

Trump shows no more fear of giving offense than early American patriot [[Patrick Henry]], who said of the momentous questions facing the nation in his time:

:For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. [http://www.earlyamerica.com/ebooks/books/GiveMeLiberty/GiveMeLiberty.html]

Should we add this to the media section? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 16:20, 14 February 2016 (EST)

=="Unlike most other candidates,"==
There is nothing before this sentence that indicates that Mr. Trump is a candidate for anything. The article is locked (...at least for me), but the intro needs a few words about the fact that he is running for something, or the passage lacks context and does not make sense. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 14:49, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Donald Trump

2016-04-07T18:49:54Z

GerryV: Unlike most other candidates,

Trump was nominated for a Nobel prize.[http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-218695]

==Fear of giving offense==

Trump shows no more fear of giving offense than early American patriot [[Patrick Henry]], who said of the momentous questions facing the nation in his time:

:For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. [http://www.earlyamerica.com/ebooks/books/GiveMeLiberty/GiveMeLiberty.html]

Should we add this to the media section? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 16:20, 14 February 2016 (EST)

=="Unlike most other candidates,"
There is nothing before this sentence that indicates that Mr. Trump is a candidate for anything. The article is locked (...at least for me), but the intro needs a few words about the fact that he is running for something, or the passage lacks context and does not make sense. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 14:49, 7 April 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Donald Trump

2016-04-07T18:49:07Z

GerryV:

Trump was nominated for a Nobel prize.[http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-218695]

==Fear of giving offense==

Trump shows no more fear of giving offense than early American patriot [[Patrick Henry]], who said of the momentous questions facing the nation in his time:

:For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings. [http://www.earlyamerica.com/ebooks/books/GiveMeLiberty/GiveMeLiberty.html]

Should we add this to the media section? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 16:20, 14 February 2016 (EST)

There is nothing before this sentence that indicates that Mr. Trump is a candidate for anything. The article is locked (...at least for me), but the intro needs a few words about the fact that he is running for something, or the passage lacks context and does not make sense. [[User:GerryV|GerryV]] ([[User talk:GerryV|talk]]) 14:49, 7 April 2016 (EDT)