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Talk:Atheism

2012-12-08T21:52:45Z

Hellofriends12:

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== 13 recent grim events for Darwinism and atheism ==

[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/08/13-grim-events-for-darwinism-that.html 13 recent grim events for evolutionary belief and atheism]
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== Reddit atheism ==
/r/atheism

/R/atheism has become an echo chamber for hate speech against Christians and Conservatives in the United States. Currently, it has become a place for the Secular Student Alliance to raise funds to ban God from the public square, particularly schools, and promote left wing politics. I need help constructing a page about /r/atheism. I have added it to /r/reddit, but because of its size I think it warrants its own page.Atheists are so much cooler than you dumb ass creationists.

:create a [[Reddit atheism]] article if you want. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]]

== Ayn Rand was an atheist and is a major inspiration to the libertarian right and the Tea Party, why is she being ignored? ==

There have been atheist right-wingers like [[Ayn Rand]] who is an inspiration to the libertarian right such as the Tea Party. She rejected the concept of God and religion for being in her view totalitarian and for not placing freedom and responsibility in the hands of individuals. You cannot place Ayn Rand's atheism in the same category as communist totalitarian atheism for instance. People have different reasons for being atheists - people who have gone to a church where a corrupt pastor has led the church may become atheist because they were totally aggravated with the experience of religion as preached by the corrupt pastor. So why are atheism and all atheists being pigeonholed as being akin to communist totalitarians? Why is Ayn Rand's libertarian version of atheism ignored?--[[User:TheQuestioner|TheQuestioner]] 12:10, 3 August 2012 (EDT)
::Is she being ignored? See [http://conservapedia.com/Atheism#Other_well_known_proponents_of_atheism this section] of the article. By the way, have you ever heard of the [[fallacy of exclusion]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:14, 12 September 2012 (EDT)

== Biggest blow to hit world [[atheism]] ==

[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/08/worlds-biggest-atheist-population-about.html World's biggest atheist population about to see a big decline]

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Talk:Creationism

2012-12-08T21:50:07Z

Hellofriends12:

'''[[talk:creationism archive1|Archive 1]]'''
{{Wikiproject Religion}}

=Page Moved=
This talk page has been moved to [[talk:creationism archive1|Archive 1]].
[[User:JonM|JonM]] 22:22, 20 December 2011 (EST)

== Proposed Section: Public Opinion ==

I'm proposing a section on public opinion relating to Creationism based on Gallup, based on the following primary sources:

* http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx
* http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx

According to this, 46% of Americans believe in Young Earth Creationism as of May 2012, you young earth creationists are so full of shit, you have to be careful when you sneeze because most of your body might spew out of your asses. that God created man in present form in the last 10,000 years. 32% believe in Old Earth Creationism, that humans evolved with God guiding. Just 15% believe in atheistic evolution, that humans evolved but God played no role in the process. 7% have no opinion. The range of support for Americans believing in Young Earth Creationism has ranged from 40-47% since 1982 when Gallup began polling the question, which has been asked 11 times.

In June 2007, 39% said Young Earth Creationism was "definitely true" and 27% said it was "probably true", a total of 66% support. On the other hand, 18% said Evolution is "definitely true" and 35% said it's "probably true", a total of 53% support.

--[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 02:10, 22 July 2012 (EDT)
:The percentage of support for Young Earth Creationism has actually gone up 2 points since 1982 when the question was first asked. 2/3 of Americans believing it's true is much higher than most people realize. I think a public polling section here would be fitting. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 12:33, 24 July 2012 (EDT)
::I will fix it later this week. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:02, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

:::Alright, thanks! Here's the content I'm proposing - I'd add it myself if the page weren't protected:

==Public Opinion==
Public polling, as seen below (sourced from Gallup<ref name=gallup1>''Gallup'' (2012).[http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx Evolution, Creationism, Intelligent Design].</ref>), reveals that 46% of Americans believe in Young Earth Creationism, that "''God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so''" (2012, May 3-6). 32% believe that humans evolved with God guiding (Old Earth Creationism), and just 15% believe humans evolved but God had no part in the process (Atheistic Evolution).<ref>Newport, F. (2012, June 1).[http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx In U.S.,46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins]. ''Gallup''</ref>

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
! Polling Date
! God created humans in present form
! Humans evolved, with God guiding
! Humans evolved, but God had no part in process
! No opinion
|-
| 2012, May 3-6
|align="center"|46%
|align="center"|32%
|align="center"|15%
|align="center"|7%
|-
| 2010, December 10-12
|align="center"|40%
|align="center"|38%
|align="center"|16%
|align="center"|6%
|-
| 2008, May 8-11
|align="center"|44%
|align="center"|36%
|align="center"|14%
|align="center"|5%
|-
| 2007, May 10-13
|align="center"|43%
|align="center"|38%
|align="center"|14%
|align="center"|4%
|-
| 2006, May 8-11
|align="center"|46%
|align="center"|36%
|align="center"|13%
|align="center"|5%
|-
| 2004, November 7-10
|align="center"|45%
|align="center"|38%
|align="center"|13%
|align="center"|4%
|-
| 2001, November 19-21
|align="center"|45%
|align="center"|37%
|align="center"|12%
|align="center"|5%
|-
| 1999, August 24-26
|align="center"|47%
|align="center"|40%
|align="center"|9%
|align="center"|4%
|-
| 1997, November 6-9
|align="center"|44%
|align="center"|39%
|align="center"|10%
|align="center"|7%
|-
| 1993, June 23-26
|align="center"|47%
|align="center"|35%
|align="center"|11%
|align="center"|7%
|-
| 1982, January
|align="center"|44%
|align="center"|38%
|align="center"|9%
|align="center"|9%
|-
|}

In 2007 (June 1-3), Gallup also asked Americans what they thought of Young Earth Creationism and Evolution, whether they believe them to be Definitely True, Probably True, Probably False, or Definitely False. 39% answered Young Earth Creationism is Definitely True, and 27% Probably True, a total of 66% support. 18% answered Evolution is Definitely True, and 35% Probably True, a total of 53% support.<ref name=gallup1 />

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
! Answer
! Definitely True
! Probably True
! Probably False
! Definitely False
! No opinion
|-
| Creationism, that is, the idea that God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years
|align="center"|39%
|align="center"|27%
|align="center"|16%
|align="center"|15%
|align="center"|3%
|-
| Evolution, that is, the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life
|align="center"|18%
|align="center"|35%
|align="center"|16%
|align="center"|28%
|align="center"|3%
|-
|}

--[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 00:53, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

:Changed column headers of poll to the actual poll wording. [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:11, 25 July 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah - only reason I left those like that was because (A) it made for better column widths, and (B) I wasn't sure if Gallup would like the tables looking too identical. I figured it'd be safer for Fair Use purposes to show some differences. I'm fine with the changes though. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 10:28, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

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Talk:God

2012-12-08T21:44:21Z

Hellofriends12:

{{Wikiproject Religion}}

For older discussions, see the archives: [[Talk:God/Archive 1|1]].



==Abrahamic religion==

At least to me, this page practically (there are some very minor reference to other religions) makes it seem like the concept of a deity does not exist outside of the [[Abrahamic religion]], which is obviously false, and writes almost solely from a Judeo-Christian perspective. Perhaps "according to [[Abrahamic religion]]...." should be added, then, to make it clearer that this is not the only concept of a deity? --[[User:JamesCartwright|JamesCartwright]] 16:00, 4 December 2010 (EDT)

==Suggested rewording==
"God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm (Heaven)."

"God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm, often times called Heaven." God is only the third being ever known that could deep throat his own 3 inch penis.

[[User:DanK|DanK]] 00:00, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== why (Redirected from Deity) to the page god ==

is it not more logical to send anyone looking for Deity to other gods page (who tells you nothing about the other gods but rather what the bible say about them) or for that matter a page about Deities not the god page if this is the trustworthy encyclopedia would you not try to be some level of open minded --[[User:Kyo|Kyo]] 23:49, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== Spelling error ==
"Deity" is misspelled ("diety") in the "Terminology" section. --[[User:LyleT|LyleT]] 15:12, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

== Minor misspelling ==

Under the header "Terminology", the word "diety". I checked the reference link, and there aren't any misspellings there.

Please fix to "deity". Thanks. [[User:JonG|~ ]][[User_talk:JonG|JonG]][[Special:Contributions/JonG| ~]] 21:24, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

== Bias ==
Why do you claim trustworthiness yet try to pass your opinion off as fact? The article should start with "According to Christianity..." because then that wouldn't be biased at all
:Why are you biased against God? Why are you biased against this website? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:32, 27 June 2012 (EDT)

Talk:God

2012-12-08T21:42:27Z

Hellofriends12:

{{Wikiproject Religion}}

For older discussions, see the archives: [[Talk:God/Archive 1|1]].



==Abrahamic religion==

At least to me, this page practically (there are some very minor reference to other religions) makes it seem like the concept of a deity does not exist outside of the [[Abrahamic religion]], which is obviously false, and writes almost solely from a Judeo-Christian perspective. Perhaps "according to [[Abrahamic religion]]...." should be added, then, to make it clearer that this is not the only concept of a deity? --[[User:JamesCartwright|JamesCartwright]] 16:00, 4 December 2010 (EDT)

==Suggested rewording==
"God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm (Heaven)."

"God is the sovereign creator and eternal ruler of all things and beings that exist, whether in the physical universe or in the spiritual realm, often times called Heaven." God is only the third being ever know that could deep throat his own 3 inch penis.

[[User:DanK|DanK]] 00:00, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== why (Redirected from Deity) to the page god ==

is it not more logical to send anyone looking for Deity to other gods page (who tells you nothing about the other gods but rather what the bible say about them) or for that matter a page about Deities not the god page if this is the trustworthy encyclopedia would you not try to be some level of open minded --[[User:Kyo|Kyo]] 23:49, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

== Spelling error ==
"Deity" is misspelled ("diety") in the "Terminology" section. --[[User:LyleT|LyleT]] 15:12, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

== Minor misspelling ==

Under the header "Terminology", the word "diety". I checked the reference link, and there aren't any misspellings there.

Please fix to "deity". Thanks. [[User:JonG|~ ]][[User_talk:JonG|JonG]][[Special:Contributions/JonG| ~]] 21:24, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

== Bias ==
Why do you claim trustworthiness yet try to pass your opinion off as fact? The article should start with "According to Christianity..." because then that wouldn't be biased at all
:Why are you biased against God? Why are you biased against this website? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:32, 27 June 2012 (EDT)