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Talk:Essay:Conservapedia Awards

2010-02-28T16:25:01Z

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== Name of the Award ==

Suggestions:

* The [[William F. Buckley]] Award, for the first commentator in modern memory to make the case for [[conservative values]].
* The [[Ronald Reagan]] Award, after the one [[President of the United States]] in recent memory who has put those ideals into practice.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 13:38, 12 May 2008 (EDT)
::You and I think alike. I put my suggestion on the main page, though. It'd have a cool nickname, too: the Ronny. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 16:14, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

::: That's clever: the "Ronny"!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:08, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Perhaps we should coin a new name. Shocking as this may be, most of students have no recollection of Reagan. Most were born after he was president. Also, other awards are named after Reagan and even liberals invoke his memory now!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:29, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

== Makers of wiki ==
You are of course aware that the makers of the wiki software is the Wikimedia Foundation, the charity that run by Jim Wales, which owns Wikipedia, that has such an awful Liberal bias that you had to create this? [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:20, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

: No, the makers of the wiki software were individuals who volunteered their time, not an entity that has been taken over by a [[liberal]] mob.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:26, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

:: Check out there [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki website] down the bottom in the little bar it say "A Wikimedia Foundation Project". The wikimedia foundation owns this Wikipedia and about 8 other projects. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 23:10, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

::: That's silly, and says nothing about who developed the wiki software. If anything, that denies credit where credit is due.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:13, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

:::: Actually the irony only just occured to me. MediaWiki is funded by the Wikimedia Foundation. The Wikimedia Foundation gets most of it contributions through Wikipedia. Your website relise on MediaWiki, ergo your website relise on the donations brought in through Wikipedia. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 23:14, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

It is written the same way other open source projects are like LaTeX. Who ever happens to stop by and write some code. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 23:17, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

: In other words, you don't give credit where credit is due either, like Wikipedia itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:24, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

:: Oh no! Nobody thanks you. Is that why you started Conservapedia nobody thanked you for your help at Wikipedia?

:: All open source projects are like this lots of people do lots of work and nobody gets any recongition unless you creck open the code and have a look (LaTeX style files usually have the authors name commented out somewhere at the top of the source code). People have reasons other than recongnition when they participate in open source projects. LaTeX for example, you wanted to do something, you couldn't find a style file to do so you write one yourself and then upload it to the CTAN website so other people arn't met with the same problem. Nobody gets recognised but everyone gets something out of it. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 01:15, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I could be wrong, but it looks like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Cunningham this guy] is the one who should be thanked, not Jimbo Wales. Took me about a minute to find that out. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 01:00, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

: He invented the first wiki, not the software that powers Conservapedia. The software that powers Conservapedia is the same as the one that powers Wikipedia, which is the one that produced by people who submit program code to MediaWiki project in order to create Wikipedia. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 01:15, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::And Henry Ford just invented the modern assembly line, not the robots that work on them today. No need to recognize him for anything. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 13:34, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::Right. And Thomas Edison merely invented the first light bulb, not the ones we use today. No one should bother recognizing Edison either!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:00, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::: William Hammer did alot of the ground work research for the light bulb. He worked in Edison's lab and after the lab as a whole developed the light globe Edison took it and patented it. It looks like you enjoy rewarding the person who took the credit rather than the people who did the work, you should give your "award" to Jim Wales than. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 18:43, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

::::So now you're agreeing with us. How convenient. How typical! Your arguments are a joke. It doesn't matter what Jimbo Wales actually did - you just want him to get an award from Conservapedia. Please go troll elsewhere. (And from your edit history, looks like you're here pretty much just to [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#90.2F10_rule|talktalktalk]] anyway.) [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 11:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I didn't say I wanted to give Jim Wales an award, I said that you are ignoring the fact that the software you use was developed with support (bandwidth of the website, ect.) from money raised through Wikipedia. Andy must have relised this when he was on their website downloading the files.

:::::Your websites existence is entirly dependent on Wikipedia and any "award" for wikis will have to go in part to the Wikimedia Foundation for providing the platform for developing wikis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:08, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::: Jimxmchue, don't bother responding. DanielB did not take your hint and he violated the [[90/10 rule]], and has been appropriately blocked for it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:21, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::::I was done anyway. :) [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:08, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Nice job nominating Ward Cunningham he might be as proud of his "Values Award" as he is [http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3648131 that work lead to Wikipedia]. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 21:15, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

==Phyllis Schlafly==
Isn't she associated with Conservapedia? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|All the funny lines are banned]] 23:09, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

: No. Are you a conspiracy theorist, Ferno? Perhaps you believe in [[Hillary Clinton|Hillary]]'s claim of a vast right-wing conspiracy?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:17, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

::What? What does that have to do with anything? I know she is your mother, I just didn't know if she was technically associated with Conservapedia. Geeze . . . '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|All the funny lines are banned]] 23:22, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

::: Ferno, your first statement above is inconsistent with your second. When called on your contradiction, you just play dumb? Ferno, do you ever admit you're wrong?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:34, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Maybe I am dumb then, because I don't have a clue as to what I did that was wrong or contradictory. If you are saying that Phyllis is not associated with Conservapedia, then thank you for answering my question. As for your remarks, if you look closely at my first sentence you'll notice that it was a question, not a statement, and was intended to be read as such. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|All the funny lines are banned]] 23:45, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

::::: Ferno, I asked you a simple question. Are you going to answer it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:50, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::: As I explained above, that question has nothing to do with this topic because I asked a simple question. And yes, I do admit I am wrong ''if'' I'm actually wrong and ''if'' I'm not being randomly insulted by some guy on the internet who doesn't understand that my question was simply a question. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|All the funny lines are banned]] 23:55, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Well, gosh darn, it confuses me too Ferno.
[[User:AdenJ|AdenJ]] 00:25, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

:Ferno, I suggest your answers should be: no, no, no, yes. [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 01:27, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

:: Ferno, your answer that you admit that you are wrong "if" you're actually wrong is not much of an answer. You may never think you're wrong. You've been blocked six times here by numerous Sysops; your signature line pushes a false statement; and your question above that started this discussion implies a falsehood. Yet I haven't seen you admit you're wrong about anything yet. I'll ask the simple question one last time, do you ever admit you're wrong?

:: Regardless, Ferno, remove the falsehood from your signature line or your account will be blocked for the 7th time.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:08, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

If Mrs. Schlafly is not associated with Conservapedia then why did the April 25th CP News headline refer to her as "Conservapedian Phyllis Schlafly"? --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:10, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

: Clever try, but Ferno gave his "reason" and that was not it. "Conservapedian" is an honorary title, as in the context of giving someone an award. My problem is not with disqualifying this nominee, but with Ferno's style of reasoning and his repeatedly unjustified insinuations, as in his signature above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:45, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

:::I wasn't trying to be clever, and I really don't care about whether Mrs. Schlafly is eligible for a Conservapedia award or not - this site can honor anyone it chooses for any reason it wants to. When asked if she was a Conservapedian you answered "no", and I was simply asking for a clarification of what "Conservapedian" means since she was referred to as one. Lighten up. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:06, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

::Aschlafly, do you ever admit you're wrong? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Whenever I put something here I get in trouble]] 13:47, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

::: Yes. But notice how you couldn't say that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:50, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Your argument above is that it is pointless to say that you are wrong if you actually think that you're wrong, right? Why would someone admit they were wrong if they didn't think that they were wrong? You are using pretty circular logic. But to wrap this up, being a "Conservapedian" doesn't associate you with Conservapedia, and even questioning that makes you a conspiracy theorist. And BTW I never "gave" a reason why Phyllis Schlafly should not be included, I just asked a question. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User talk:FernoKlump|Whenever I put something here I get in trouble]] 13:58, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Whoa, stop the [[troll|trolling]] and [[bully|bullying]]. Conspiracies, Hillary Clinton, signatures, admitting being wrong, then threatening to block?... those go on user talk pages, not here where it appears as intimidation at best. I've seen others get life-long blocks for that. "Who polices the police?"
::::Although Conservapedia honored here on April 25 as "Conservapedian", it doesn't mean she is associated yet. That's like honoring my cat and saying my cat is associated. Being the mother of the owner of Conservapedia does not mean association to Conservapedia. But, this is a good way of defining how one is or isn't associated to Conservapedia through trial and error. Also, I'll add her founding of the Eagle Forum, since adding specifics to her lifetime contributions is pleasing to the eye. :) [[User:LardoBolger|LardoBolger]] 14:42, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

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==Reasons For Nomination==

I'm adding small specifics to some nominees, since some seem to be nominated for being something anyone can be. For example, Vice President Cheney being a true patriot. Anyone can be a true patriot... so I'd like to add better examples of nomination for better understanding. [[User:LardoBolger|LardoBolger]] 14:51, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

== Great Idea ==
I think this is a brilliant idea. Whoever thought of the awards needs to be congratulated. I have some thoughts.

1. The name : I believe the best name is "Conservapedia award for ....". This will also promote the encyclopedia as a brand.

2. Of the many in the list, only Mrs. Schlafly and Mrs. Thatcher can be considered worthy of such an award. Many others are not that well known.

3. May be there should be a ceremony as well to honour the winner.

don't ridicule me... just some thoughts.

--[[User:MRain|MRain]] 15:47, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

: Good thoughts, but part of being conservative is not to worship fame. So I don't think the degree of being "well known" is a factor.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:45, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

::Agreed. Fame shouldn't rule out a candidate, of course, but one of the values an award can have is to bring recognition to individuals who have earned it in quieter, low-key ways while making no less of a difference in the world. There's also value in raising the awareness of groups or causes that would have much more support if people only knew about them. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:10, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

== Prior winners ==

Who has won this award in years past? I think we should include a list of winners on the article page. [[User:QWest|QWest]] 13:37, 7 December 2008 (EST)
:This was only proposed in 2008, so I don't believe that there has been any formal or official presentation of an award from Conservapedia as yet. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 08:43, 10 December 2008 (EST)

== this article deserves attention ==

I nominate Karen Dior. --[[User:Hendrik|Hendrik]] 11:25, 28 February 2010 (EST)

Essay:Conservapedia Awards

2010-02-28T16:23:40Z

Hendrik: hey what happened to this article?

We are accepting nominations for acknowledging the "2009 Conservapedian of the Year Award," for standing up the truth and against liberal [[deceit]].

== Nominations for 2010 Conservapedian of the Year Award ==

A number of conservative activists deserve the award:

*Karen Dior
*Nicole Murray-Ramirez
*Mary Elizabeth Clark
*Lillie Brock

== Nominations for 2009 Conservapedian of the Year Award ==

*Conservapedians who filled a large bus for the March for Life on Jan. 22, 2009, joining 300,000 like-minded pro-lifers in D.C.

*[[Tea Party Movement]] - For frightening their Representative's 2010 reelection. If it weren't for them health care and cap and trade would have been signed by now. They've had more influence on shaping public policy than any member of Congress or person in the media. -[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]

*Senator [[Jim DeMint]] - best spokesman in the Senate against the [[Obama Administration]].

*Maryland state Senator [[Andrew P. Harris]] - For unflagging and uncompromising adherence to conservative principles. Harris refused to compromise his positions or soft-sell his viewpoints, and still came close to winning the 2008 Congressional election. In 2009, he has fought strongly to prevent pornography from being shown on college campuses at taxpayer expense as a "discussion activity."

*Congressman [[Joe Wilson]] - For telling the truth about [[Barack Obama]] to his face.

== Nominations for 2008 Conservapedia Awards for Recognition of Other Groups ==

#[http://www.cmrlink.org/ '''Center for Military Readiness'''], which took the lead in opposing the [[homosexual agenda]] for the military
#[http://www.studentsforlife.org/ '''Students for Life of America'''], which has taken the lead in exposing [[Planned Parenthood]] and [[abortion]]
#'''The [[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]]''', which provided leadership and support for passing [[Proposition 8]]
#'''[[Christian Voice]]''', for keeping the standard of Christian Conservatism flying proudly in the United Kingdom
#'''[http://www.mediaresearch.org/The Media Research Center]''' '''Its thorough, comprehensive, and ongoing analysis based on quantitative research allows conservatives, especially students, to document [[liberal bias]] in the media.'''
#'''Young America's Foundation''' - For preserving conservatism through youth activism.
#'''[[Sarah Palin]]''' - For demonstrating a positive conservative alternative to the liberal concept of feminism. For making a deeply flawed Republican candidate highly competitive and in fact nearly being responsible for a McCain win. For helping to prevent a Demoncratic supermajority by campaigning hard for [[Saxby Chambliss]]. And for not hesitating to speak the truth about Barack Hussein Obama and his dangerous ideas and associations.
#[http://www.strengthsandweaknesses.org/ Texans for Better Science Education (TBSE)] - For standing against censorship by the evolutionists who seek to suppress any criticism of the [[theory of evolution]] in [[Texas]] [[public schools]]

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== Guidelines ==
# Unique contributions to the world which enable more people to become aware of [[conservative values]].
# Insight in applying [[conservative values]] to help others individually.
# Effort in reaching teenagers who are troubled due to [[liberal]] indoctrination or lack of awareness of [[conservative values]]
# Someone who overcome personal challenges and spread [[conservative values]] for the benefit of others
# Use or development of innovation in connection with the contribution.
# Exemplification of [[conservative values]] in words and deeds
# No one associated with Conservapedia may be nominated for an initial award.

(please add)

== Name for the Award ==

(suggestions welcome)

*the [[Ronald Wilson Reagan|Ronny]]
*the Values Award
*Conservapedia awards
*the [[Phyllis Schlafly]] Award
*the Conservative of the Year Award

== Prior Individual Nominations (unrelated to year) ==

# Howard G. "Ward" Cunningham, who created wiki software for its value in bringing [[conservative values]] to millions of page views.
# [[Henry Morris]] II (posthumous), founder of the [[Institute for Creation Research]].
# [[Chris Ashcraft]], founder of the [[Northwest Creation Network]] and of [[CreationWiki]].
# [[Phyllis Schlafly]], for a lifetime of contributions to the Conservative movement, founder of the [[Eagle Forum]].
# Reverend [[Donald E. Wildmon]], founder of the [[American Family Association]] and [[American Family Radio]].
# [[Dick Cheney|Vice-President Cheney]], a true patriot against [[terrorism]].
# [[John Yoo]], legal advisor to the White House. Contributed to the USA PATRIOT Act and provided a concrete justification for enhanced interrogation of enemy combatants. Contributed immensely to the national security of the United States.
# [[Margaret Thatcher]], former prime minister of the [[U.K.]] for combating [[Communism]].
# [[Julianne Hough]], a conservative television star.
# Marcus Borden, for defending prayer as a [[public school|public high school]] football coach; [[atheists]] eventually succeeded in prohibiting him from even bowing his head.<ref>http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/court_rules_against_e_brunswic.html</ref>
# Randy Harris, a county commissioner in Florida, who created the concept of [[Choose Life License Plates]].
# [[Stephen Green]], Director of [[Christian Voice]], for his promotion of Christian conservative values and his courageous fight against blasphemy and the forces of institutional atheism in the [[United Kingdom]].
# [[Tony Perkins]], head of the [[Family Research Council]]

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== References ==

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[[Category:Conservapedia Essays]]