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Coldplay

2012-11-15T06:24:18Z

JNeumann: Added some more info

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'''Coldplay''' is an British [[rock]] band, formed in 1998. The band is one of the most successful [[rock]] bands of the century with more than 50 million records worldwide. Their first major song was "Yellow" which featured on their debut album Parachutes and was later released as a single. Other famous songs pformed by Coldplay include (In chronological order): Trouble, Clocks, The Scientist, Speed of Sound, Fix You, Viva La Vida and Paradise.

==Current Members==

*Chris Martin - [[singer]], [[piano]], [[guitar]]
*Guy Berryman - [[bass]], [[singer]]
*Jon Buckland - [[guitar]], [[singer]]
*Will Champion - [[drums]], [[harmonica]]

==Discography==

*Parachutes (2000)
*A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
*X&Y (2005)
*Prospekt's March - EP (2008)
*Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends (2008)
*Mylo Xyloto (2011)

[[Category:Rock Bands]]

Coldplay

2012-11-15T06:21:32Z

JNeumann: /* Discography */

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'''Coldplay''' is an British [[rock]] band, formed in 1998. The band is one of the most successful [[rock]] band of the century with more than 50 million records worldwide.

==Current Members==

*Chris Martin - [[singer]], [[piano]], [[guitar]]
*Guy Berryman - [[bass]], [[singer]]
*Jon Buckland - [[guitar]], [[singer]]
*Will Champion - [[drums]], [[harmonica]]

==Discography==

*Parachutes (2000)
*A Rush of Blood to the Head (2002)
*X&Y (2005)
*Prospekt's March - EP (2008)
*Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends (2008)
*Mylo Xyloto (2011)

[[Category:Rock Bands]]

User:ReganNP

2012-11-14T13:34:34Z

JNeumann: Created page with "{{welcome}}"

Straw man fallacy

2012-11-14T13:24:06Z

JNeumann: Added further explanation of example

A '''straw man fallacy''' (or straw man argument) is a [[logical fallacy|fallacy]] which occurs by first incorrectly attributing an argument to someone, disproving this argument, then claiming that the person was wrong. It is a caricature of an opponent's [[argument]], a [[distortion]] which can easily be "knocked down" (i.e., refuted) like a flimsy pile of [[straw]].

A strawman argument is a weakened version of a debating opponent's argument, which lacks the potency of the opponent's actual argument. In debates attended by the unwary, a clever but unscrupulous debater can fool the audience into thinking that the opponent's position has been disproved. Knocking down the powerless straw man takes the place of an authentic contest with the real man.

Straw man arguments are often found in politics. It is common in politically corrupt societies for demagogues to construct strawmen of their opponents' arguments to win debates and sway the masses.

Straw man arguments can sometimes be hard to detect, because a valid statement may be used in a distorted fashion. For example:

*Person A believes that a military program should be cut
*Person B argues that since Person A wants to cut military funding, he wants to leave the country defenseless to attack

This is fallacious reasoning, because there is no way to know ''why'' person A believes what he does, and Person B has used one reason which suits his own purpose. For example, it's quite possible that Person A wants to cut the program because he wants to change the funding to something which he thinks does a ''better'' job at defending the country. Person A's idea may include putting more money towards diplomatic efforts.

==See also==
*[[Nutpicking]], a similar fallacy
*[[Putting words in someone's mouth]]
*[[Reductio ad absurdum]], a different form of argument that is often confused with the straw-man fallacy

[[Category:Logical Fallacies]]

Talk:Straw man fallacy

2012-11-14T13:22:42Z

JNeumann: Corrected typing mistake

== Atheist Examples ==

Could we add in some examples of straw man arguments that atheists and evolutionists employ? [[User:JNeumann|JNeumann]] 08:12, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Debate:Should all access to Conservapedia be banned on Sundays?

2012-11-14T13:17:51Z

JNeumann:

My understanding of Biblical teaching is that the Sabbath should be kept as a day of rest and prayer, free from work. Surely this precludes even the Godly work being carried on by the editors and administrators of Conservapedia. I suggest that access to Conservapedia be barred on Sundays, and that this bar should take account of changing time zones - ie it should begin when the first part of the world enters Sunday (Western Pacific, Fiji etc) and ends only when the latest part of the world enters Monday (Eastern Pacific, Hawaii, etc).

:I don't think the wiki software on which this website is based is even capable of doing something like that short of locking every single page every Sunday which would defeat the whole purpose of your idea since it would be a whole lot of work. Not to mention the idea that Sunday is the Sabbath Day is a matter of some debate. [[User:Sulgran|Sulgran]] 05:29, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

::Can't the server(s) just be disconnected from the internets? Or turned off? [[User:Human|Human]] 22:09, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

If that is so, then maybe the front page could ask people not to edit or use Conservapedia on a Sunday. Or administrators could set a lead and example by not working on Sundays.

:The problem with that is if the administrators don't work on Sunday than it would essentially be a free for all day for vandals. [[User:Sulgran|Sulgran]] 05:36, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

How do you mean vandals? This is an encyclopedia. (And how do you get your 'signature' on the end of each posting, please?)

:Which version of the Sabbath should be kept though? Many sects believe it to be a Saturday rather than a Sunday. Making ''everybody'' stop on Sundays, would be good as it would force the semi-believers to do the Right Thing; I suspect they might complain about it though. (Signature: The swirly thing in the buttons, tenth button from the left.) --[[User:Jeremiah4-22|Jeremiah4-22]] 06:15, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

To make a signature use this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. From [[Wikipedia]]:

<blockquote style="background: #F9F9F9; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; padding: .3em;">

Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia.

The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities to pages, page blanking, or the insertion of bad (or good) jokes or other nonsense. Fortunately, these types of vandalism are usually easy to spot.

</blockquote>

While Wikipedia and Conservapedia do have many [[Conservapedia:Differences with Wikipedia|differences]] their basic definition of vandalism is applicable here. [[User:Sulgran|Sulgran]] 06:34, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Thank you. [[User:John11:35|John11:35]] 09:48, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

==No, but...==

There should be an edit rule (suggested but not enforced - a guideline), that after six days of frantically creating, improving and discussing articles, and contributing to these magnificent debate topics, an editor should take a day of rest and go outside. Sysops and admins could work out a rotating schedule so they don't all accidentally rest on the same day. [[User:Human|Human]] 22:07, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== OY ==

<pre>
1. Well for one your question is flawed the sabbath is NOT sunday.
2. its a long story but you'll need to read your bible on what happened to the sabbath.
3. again read your bible..is it okay to do good or evil on the sabbath or sunday?
</pre>
--[[User:Wally|Wally]] 20:05, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

== For who? ==

The Sabbath was instituted for the nation of Israel and was contained in the Mosaic law (Exodus 31:16, 17). Observant Jews, especially Orthodox Jews, continue to observe the weekly Sabbath (usually from sunset Friday until sunset Saturday).
*Christ Jesus set the standard for doing good work on the Sabbath when he healed the sick, much to the chagrin of the Pharisees who tended to be rigid in their interpretation of work. Jesus responded that just as his Father continued working, so he continued working. (John 5:5-17)
*Romans 10:4 states that Christ is the end of the Law (see also Galatians 4:9-11 and Ephesians 2:13-16). This means that Christians are no longer under the multitude of rules and regulations associated with the Law, but can have an approved standing with God based on Christ's sacrifice.
**Christians are still bound by the ''principles'' contained in the law as noted by Jesus himself when answering a Pharisee's question as to the greatest commandment (Matthew 22:34-39). Where the moral standards set out in the Ten Commandments, and other portions of the Mosaic Law, are restated and thus binding on Christians in the New Testament; the sabbath law was not included.
[[User:BibleBrown|BibleBrown]] 18:37, 15 December 2007 (EST)

I don't think so. I already find it hard enough to get time to do stuff before the stupid editing locks come on. --[[user:mssb57|m s s b 5 7]] // [[user talk:mssb57|blah !]] // [[special:contributions/mssb57|this was my fault]] 18:51, 15 December 2007 (EST)

= In my opinion... =

I must agree with what Sulgran said, it does seem that doing such a thing would be hard. However, if it can be done, then I fully agree with it. [[User:T2master|T2master]] 20:35, 19 December 2007 (EST)

= Not so fast... =

First Jesus made His remarks in the context of a situation that required urgency, secondly it would not be appropriate to enforce a one-size-fits all policy on an issue like this; it should be left to the individual. [[User:Qwestor|Qwestor]] 15:51, 22 December 2007 (EST)

: Right, it's up to the individual. For most of us, Conservapedia is enjoyment. I don't think hobbies and enjoyment have ever been banned on the Sabbath. Some small sects do ban the use of technology, such as automobiles, on the Sabbath.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:59, 22 December 2007 (EST)
[[Category:Debates about Conservapedia]]

== Dedication ==

I would say that contributing to Conservapedia and dedicating one's self to the site is a way of helping push God's word to the masses. This should surely be allowed on the Sabbath day? [[User:JNeumann|JNeumann]] 08:17, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:Straw man fallacy

2012-11-14T13:12:21Z

JNeumann: Created page with "== Atheist Examples == Could we add in some examples of straw man arguments that atheists and evolutionists emoy? ~~~~"

== Atheist Examples ==

Could we add in some examples of straw man arguments that atheists and evolutionists emoy? [[User:JNeumann|JNeumann]] 08:12, 14 November 2012 (EST)