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URL

2007-06-01T23:00:37Z

John99: Redirecting to Uniform Resource Locator

#REDIRECT [[Uniform Resource Locator]]

Uniform Resource Locator

2007-06-01T23:00:09Z

John99:

{{stub}}

'''Uniform Resource Locator''' ('''URL''') is a technical term used in two distinct meanings:
* In popular usage, it is a widespread [[synonym]] for [[Uniform Resource Identifier]] (URI) — many popular and technical texts will use the term "URL" when referring to URI;
* Strictly, the idea of a uniform syntax for global identifiers of network-retrievable documents was the core idea of the World Wide Web. In the early times, these identifiers were variously called "document names", "Web addresses" and "Uniform Resource Locators". These names were misleading, however, because not all identifiers were locators, and even for those that were, this was not their defining characteristic. Nevertheless, by the time the RFC 1630 formally defined the term "URI" as a generic term best suited to the concept, the term "URL" had gained widespread popularity, which has continued to this day.

Uniform Resource Locator

2007-06-01T22:59:20Z

John99: URL Page started

'''Uniform Resource Locator''' ('''URL''') is a technical term used in two distinct meanings:
* In popular usage, it is a widespread [[synonym]] for [[Uniform Resource Identifier]] (URI) — many popular and technical texts will use the term "URL" when referring to URI;
* Strictly, the idea of a uniform syntax for global identifiers of network-retrievable documents was the core idea of the World Wide Web. In the early times, these identifiers were variously called "document names", "Web addresses" and "Uniform Resource Locators". These names were misleading, however, because not all identifiers were locators, and even for those that were, this was not their defining characteristic. Nevertheless, by the time the RFC 1630 formally defined the term "URI" as a generic term best suited to the concept, the term "URL" had gained widespread popularity, which has continued to this day.

Talk:Vlaams Belang

2007-06-01T22:15:54Z

John99: Assistance requested

Vlaams Belang is the largest political party in Vlaandere. It is therefore relevant to have an article on it.
* Assistance requested with the creation of an information box

Talk:Vlaams Belang

2007-06-01T22:01:56Z

John99: New page: Vlaams Belang is the largest political party in Vlaandere. It is therefore relevant to have an article on it.

Vlaams Belang is the largest political party in Vlaandere. It is therefore relevant to have an article on it.

Talk:Website

2007-05-31T09:20:00Z

John99:

New article on this very common subject is required. It can also be linked with, or redirected to "web pages". The assistance of an administrator is required on this.

Web page

2007-05-31T09:19:14Z

John99: Redirecting to Website

#REDIRECT [[website]]

Web pages

2007-05-31T09:18:45Z

John99: Redirecting to Website

#REDIRECT [[website]]

Talk:Website

2007-05-31T09:18:02Z

John99: New page: New article on this very common subject is required. It can also be linked with, or redirected to "web pages"

New article on this very common subject is required. It can also be linked with, or redirected to "web pages"

Website

2007-05-31T09:16:54Z

John99:

{{stub}}

A website (alternatively, Web site) is a collection of Web pages, images, videos and other digital assets that is hosted on a Web server, usually accessible via the Internet or a LAN.

A Web page is a document, typically written in HTML, that is almost always accessible via HTTP, a protocol that transfers information from the Web server to display in the user's Web browser.

Web site

2007-05-31T09:15:53Z

John99: redirect

#REDIRECT [[website]]

Website

2007-05-31T09:14:41Z

John99: New Article on website

A website (alternatively, Web site) is a collection of Web pages, images, videos and other digital assets that is hosted on a Web server, usually accessible via the Internet or a LAN.

A Web page is a document, typically written in HTML, that is almost always accessible via HTTP, a protocol that transfers information from the Web server to display in the user's Web browser.

South Africa

2007-05-16T21:03:31Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ SABC reporters banned for being critical of crisis in Zimbabwe

{| border="1" align="right" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="margin-left:5px"
|align="center" colspan="2"|
|-
!colspan="2" align="center" style="color: black; height: 30px; background: white no-repeat scroll top left;"|Republic of South Africa
|-
!colspan="2" align="center" style="color: black; height: 30px; background: white no-repeat scroll top left;"|[[Image:Sf-lgflag.gif|200px]]
Flag of South Africa
|-
|Capital
|[[Pretoria]] (administrative capital); [[Cape Town]] (legislative capital); [[Bloemfontein]] (judicial capital)
|-
|Government
|Republic
|-
|Languages
|IsiZulu 23.8%, IsiXhosa 17.6%, Afrikaans 13.3%, Sepedi 9.4%, English 8.2%, Setswana 8.2%, Sesotho 7.9%, Xitsonga 4.4%, other
|-
|President
|[[Thabo Mbeki]] (since 16 June 1999); note - the president is both the chief of state and head of government
|-
|Executive Deputy President
|[[Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka]] (since 23 June 2005)
|-
|Area
|1,219,912 sq km
|-
|Population (2007 estimate)
|43,997,828
|-
|GDP (2007 estimate)
|$576.4 billion (2006 est.)
|-
|GDP per capita (2007 estimate)
|$13,000 (2006 est.)
|-
|}
'''South Africa''' located on the southern tip of Africa is the wealthiest, and one of the largest countries on the continent.

It has a very advantageous location for trade routes by sea from Western Europe to India and the Far East. As a result, there was far more immigration by Europeans to South Africa than any other region of Africa, and whites of European ancestry (English and Dutch) ruled South Africa until the late twentieth century. Since then, democracy has brought representative government to the African ethnic groups.

==History==

The Dutch (or Boers) were the first to establish a European settlement in southern Africa, at Cape Colony on the very southern tip in 1652. This port supplied ships on the way to the Indiana Ocean. The Dutch emplyed Africans in conditions of indentured servitude, and set up farms for the unemployed Africans to work for the colonists' profit. In the 1800s the British arrived and took over Cape Colony, and disfavored the continuation of the Dutch system. The Dutch then moved inland, further north, in what is called the Great Trek. This created conflict with the native Africans.

In the late 1800s, an African ethnic group known as the Zulus rose to power in southern Africa, led by a military African genius named Shaka. But his successors could not retain power. By 1887 the British, with better military technology, defeated the Zulus.

The Boer War broke out between the British and the Boers in 1899. The dispute was sparked by disagreements over land, access to diamonds and gold discovered in South Africa, and whether immigrants should have political rights. The British won this war, and in 1902 established the Union of South Africa to include all the Boers republics. This country was controlled by the British but enjoyed some self-rule.

South Africa was the most complex, and the most prosperous, of the African colonies. As early as the 1600s the Dutch established Cape Town as a city at the southern tip of Africa. But during the Napoleonic Wars the British captured Cape Town (in 1815) and drove the Dutch (the “Boers”) inland. The Dutch favored continuation of slavery; the British abolished slavery in its empire in 1833.
[[Image:South_africa.gif|right|300px|thumb]]
The Boers fought the native Africans (Bantu tribes such as the Zulus) during the Great Trek of the Boers. The Boers founded two inland republics, the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. But the British were more powerful, and controlled wealthy diamond mines. The Brit Cecil Rhodes acquired great wealth through his monopoly of the diamond production in 1889, and he served as prime minister of the British Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896.

A Boer War ensued from 1899 to 1902, and afterwards it was the Boers (the Dutch) who established “apartheid”. Apartheid segregated the majority blacks from the minority whites in South Africa, with the white minority controlling the country.

The British granted South Africa independence in 1910, and it became a member of the British Commonwealth in 1931 with its constitution allowing white rule over the blacks. But the country was prosperous, and all enjoyed a higher standard of living than the remainder of Africa.

The Dutch South Africans (Afrikaner) gained control in 1948 when their National Party rose to power and enforced apartheid throughout South Africa. Homelands (segregated areas) were even established for the rival African tribes, and the whites reserved the best property for themselves. Ever since 1912 the all-black African National Congress (ANC) objected, but it was suppressed. Demonstrations, such as the 1960 Sharpeville Massacre, occasionally broke out but were violently put down. An ANC leader named Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for his role in that demonstration. Riots over school segregation occurred in Soweto in 1976, and in 1977 the government beat an outspoken critic, Steve Biko, to death.

There was increasing pressure worldwide for South Africa to end its racism. Its athletes were banned from the Olympics since the 1960s, and trade restrictions were imposed by other nations. A black South African bishop, Desmond Tutu, called for boycotts of his own nation.

Finally, in 1989, a new South African president named F.W. de Klerk was elected who would change the country. With international approval, de Klerk legalized the ANC, released Nelson Mandela from jail, and obtained repeal of apartheid laws, and agreed to fully democratic elections in 1994. Nelson Mandela then won those elections and the ANC won a majority in the National Assembly, the bigger house in the South African Parliament. A new constitution containing a bill of rights like that in the United States was adopted in 1996, though it also included entitlement and social rights.

South Africa will host the World Cup (soccer) in 2010, the first time it has ever been held in Africa.

== Crime in South Africa ==

One of the largest challanges which South Africa faces is Crime. [[Crime in South Africa]] is a major political and social issue.

Rape is endemic in South Africa. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1909220.stm]

[[South African Farm Murders]] is a highly political issue. According to the Government the murders are "just the result of ordinary crime", but the Agricultural Unions believe it forms part of [[Genocide]] committed against white people (People of European decent)in South Africa.
[http://www.tlu.co.za/International%20Bulletins/2007/IB070315%20%20Forced%20Sales,%20Expropriations%20and%20Farm%20Attacks%20-%20Two%20Sides%20of%20the%20same%20Coin.htm]

== Genocide in South Africa ==

The African National Congress is promoting Genocide against the boer in South Africa. [http://www.stopboergenocide.com/index2.html]. 1860 Farmers were killed in South Africa since 1994. 400,000 Afrikaners are destitute and starving in South Africa.

There is also a believe that there is a conspiricy to kill white people on a massive scale after the death of Nelson Mandela. One of the operations planned entails 70,000 armed black men "being transported to the Johannesburg city center within an hour" in taxicabs to attack whites. The plans are variously dubbed "Operation Vula," "Night of the Long Knives," "Operation White Clean-up," "Operation Iron Eagle" and "Red October campaign." [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37010]

The victims of this ongoing onslaught are invariably elderly, law-abiding, god-fearing whites, murdered in cold blood, in ways that beggar belief. For the edification of racism spotters in the West, "Carte Blanche" ought to have pointed out that their assailants are always black.
[http://www.ilanamercer.com/TheGenocideInDemocraticSA.htm]

== FIFA 2010 WORLD CUP ==

South Africa won the bid to host the [[FIFA 2010]] soccer world cup. [http://www.fifa.com/en/worldcup/index/0,3360,WF2010,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010]

== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ==

It is widely believed that the South African Government controls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a member of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the [[SABC]] (South African Broadcasting Corporation). [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html] Snuki Zakalala implemented an informal policy at the SABC to blacklist several highly credible commentators on the crisis in Zimbabwe, including Archbishop Pius Ncube, Moeletsi Mbeki, Trevor Ncube and Elinor Sisulu. [http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/466]

The Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] The informal media believe this is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas. It is also a method of the mainstream media to try and destroy opposition.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or on any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its professionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run there our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

The formal media selects the information it wants to publish. When letters are received from the public, only certain letters are published. Not all letters can be published due to a lack of space in a newspaper, but this is not the case with the informal media. Furthermore the formal media selects which letters it wants to publish, according to the political affiliation or agendas of the newspaper. It may deliberately censor certain individuals or political views, or any other comments on any subject it doesn't support. Distorted points of view can also be provided by selectively deleting sections of any letter or comments made by individuals. It is easy for the informal media to expose politicians who are protected (even supported) by the mainstream media.

The informal media provided the individual with the means to express themselves, and for others to take note.

As an example, the “[[Why South Africa Sucks]]” website is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/]

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]

The informal media in South Africa is not only critical about the situation in the country, but it also provides information on a wide range of subjects & different points of view.

== HIV and AIDS in South Africa ==

South Africa is currently experiencing one of the most severe [[AIDS]] epidemics in the world. [http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm]

== References ==

<references/>
*'''Taking the Bull out of Bullard''' Informal South African Media Response [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Category:African Countries]]

South Africa

2007-05-16T20:59:29Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ Publish and be damned? : Zimbabwean commentators ‘blacklisted’ by the SABC http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/466

{| border="1" align="right" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="margin-left:5px"
|align="center" colspan="2"|
|-
!colspan="2" align="center" style="color: black; height: 30px; background: white no-repeat scroll top left;"|Republic of South Africa
|-
!colspan="2" align="center" style="color: black; height: 30px; background: white no-repeat scroll top left;"|[[Image:Sf-lgflag.gif|200px]]
Flag of South Africa
|-
|Capital
|[[Pretoria]] (administrative capital); [[Cape Town]] (legislative capital); [[Bloemfontein]] (judicial capital)
|-
|Government
|Republic
|-
|Languages
|IsiZulu 23.8%, IsiXhosa 17.6%, Afrikaans 13.3%, Sepedi 9.4%, English 8.2%, Setswana 8.2%, Sesotho 7.9%, Xitsonga 4.4%, other
|-
|President
|[[Thabo Mbeki]] (since 16 June 1999); note - the president is both the chief of state and head of government
|-
|Executive Deputy President
|[[Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka]] (since 23 June 2005)
|-
|Area
|1,219,912 sq km
|-
|Population (2007 estimate)
|43,997,828
|-
|GDP (2007 estimate)
|$576.4 billion (2006 est.)
|-
|GDP per capita (2007 estimate)
|$13,000 (2006 est.)
|-
|}
'''South Africa''' located on the southern tip of Africa is the wealthiest, and one of the largest countries on the continent.

It has a very advantageous location for trade routes by sea from Western Europe to India and the Far East. As a result, there was far more immigration by Europeans to South Africa than any other region of Africa, and whites of European ancestry (English and Dutch) ruled South Africa until the late twentieth century. Since then, democracy has brought representative government to the African ethnic groups.

==History==

The Dutch (or Boers) were the first to establish a European settlement in southern Africa, at Cape Colony on the very southern tip in 1652. This port supplied ships on the way to the Indiana Ocean. The Dutch emplyed Africans in conditions of indentured servitude, and set up farms for the unemployed Africans to work for the colonists' profit. In the 1800s the British arrived and took over Cape Colony, and disfavored the continuation of the Dutch system. The Dutch then moved inland, further north, in what is called the Great Trek. This created conflict with the native Africans.

In the late 1800s, an African ethnic group known as the Zulus rose to power in southern Africa, led by a military African genius named Shaka. But his successors could not retain power. By 1887 the British, with better military technology, defeated the Zulus.

The Boer War broke out between the British and the Boers in 1899. The dispute was sparked by disagreements over land, access to diamonds and gold discovered in South Africa, and whether immigrants should have political rights. The British won this war, and in 1902 established the Union of South Africa to include all the Boers republics. This country was controlled by the British but enjoyed some self-rule.

South Africa was the most complex, and the most prosperous, of the African colonies. As early as the 1600s the Dutch established Cape Town as a city at the southern tip of Africa. But during the Napoleonic Wars the British captured Cape Town (in 1815) and drove the Dutch (the “Boers”) inland. The Dutch favored continuation of slavery; the British abolished slavery in its empire in 1833.
[[Image:South_africa.gif|right|300px|thumb]]
The Boers fought the native Africans (Bantu tribes such as the Zulus) during the Great Trek of the Boers. The Boers founded two inland republics, the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. But the British were more powerful, and controlled wealthy diamond mines. The Brit Cecil Rhodes acquired great wealth through his monopoly of the diamond production in 1889, and he served as prime minister of the British Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896.

A Boer War ensued from 1899 to 1902, and afterwards it was the Boers (the Dutch) who established “apartheid”. Apartheid segregated the majority blacks from the minority whites in South Africa, with the white minority controlling the country.

The British granted South Africa independence in 1910, and it became a member of the British Commonwealth in 1931 with its constitution allowing white rule over the blacks. But the country was prosperous, and all enjoyed a higher standard of living than the remainder of Africa.

The Dutch South Africans (Afrikaner) gained control in 1948 when their National Party rose to power and enforced apartheid throughout South Africa. Homelands (segregated areas) were even established for the rival African tribes, and the whites reserved the best property for themselves. Ever since 1912 the all-black African National Congress (ANC) objected, but it was suppressed. Demonstrations, such as the 1960 Sharpeville Massacre, occasionally broke out but were violently put down. An ANC leader named Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for his role in that demonstration. Riots over school segregation occurred in Soweto in 1976, and in 1977 the government beat an outspoken critic, Steve Biko, to death.

There was increasing pressure worldwide for South Africa to end its racism. Its athletes were banned from the Olympics since the 1960s, and trade restrictions were imposed by other nations. A black South African bishop, Desmond Tutu, called for boycotts of his own nation.

Finally, in 1989, a new South African president named F.W. de Klerk was elected who would change the country. With international approval, de Klerk legalized the ANC, released Nelson Mandela from jail, and obtained repeal of apartheid laws, and agreed to fully democratic elections in 1994. Nelson Mandela then won those elections and the ANC won a majority in the National Assembly, the bigger house in the South African Parliament. A new constitution containing a bill of rights like that in the United States was adopted in 1996, though it also included entitlement and social rights.

South Africa will host the World Cup (soccer) in 2010, the first time it has ever been held in Africa.

== Crime in South Africa ==

One of the largest challanges which South Africa faces is Crime. [[Crime in South Africa]] is a major political and social issue.

Rape is endemic in South Africa. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1909220.stm]

[[South African Farm Murders]] is a highly political issue. According to the Government the murders are "just the result of ordinary crime", but the Agricultural Unions believe it forms part of [[Genocide]] committed against white people (People of European decent)in South Africa.
[http://www.tlu.co.za/International%20Bulletins/2007/IB070315%20%20Forced%20Sales,%20Expropriations%20and%20Farm%20Attacks%20-%20Two%20Sides%20of%20the%20same%20Coin.htm]

== Genocide in South Africa ==

The African National Congress is promoting Genocide against the boer in South Africa. [http://www.stopboergenocide.com/index2.html]. 1860 Farmers were killed in South Africa since 1994. 400,000 Afrikaners are destitute and starving in South Africa.

There is also a believe that there is a conspiricy to kill white people on a massive scale after the death of Nelson Mandela. One of the operations planned entails 70,000 armed black men "being transported to the Johannesburg city center within an hour" in taxicabs to attack whites. The plans are variously dubbed "Operation Vula," "Night of the Long Knives," "Operation White Clean-up," "Operation Iron Eagle" and "Red October campaign." [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37010]

The victims of this ongoing onslaught are invariably elderly, law-abiding, god-fearing whites, murdered in cold blood, in ways that beggar belief. For the edification of racism spotters in the West, "Carte Blanche" ought to have pointed out that their assailants are always black.
[http://www.ilanamercer.com/TheGenocideInDemocraticSA.htm]

== FIFA 2010 WORLD CUP ==

South Africa won the bid to host the [[FIFA 2010]] soccer world cup. [http://www.fifa.com/en/worldcup/index/0,3360,WF2010,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010]

== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ==

It is widely believed that the South African Government controls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a member of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the [[SABC]]. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html] The [[SABC]] even banned and blacklisted certain reporters from reporting on the situation in Zimbabwe.[http://www.sokwanele.com/thisiszimbabwe/archives/466]

The Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] The informal media believe this is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas. It is also a method of the mainstream media to try and destroy opposition.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or on any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its professionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run there our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

The formal media selects the information it wants to publish. When letters are received from the public, only certain letters are published. Not all letters can be published due to a lack of space in a newspaper, but this is not the case with the informal media. Furthermore the formal media selects which letters it wants to publish, according to the political affiliation or agendas of the newspaper. It may deliberately censor certain individuals or political views, or any other comments on any subject it doesn't support. Distorted points of view can also be provided by selectively deleting sections of any letter or comments made by individuals. It is easy for the informal media to expose politicians who are protected (even supported) by the mainstream media.

The informal media provided the individual with the means to express themselves, and for others to take note.

As an example, the “[[Why South Africa Sucks]]” website is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/]

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]

The informal media in South Africa is not only critical about the situation in the country, but it also provides information on a wide range of subjects & different points of view.

== HIV and AIDS in South Africa ==

South Africa is currently experiencing one of the most severe [[AIDS]] epidemics in the world. [http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm]

== References ==

<references/>
*'''Taking the Bull out of Bullard''' Informal South African Media Response [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Category:African Countries]]

South Africa

2007-05-16T00:27:07Z

John99: == Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ==

{{stub}}

[[Image:South_africa.gif|right|250px]]

'''South Africa''' located on the southern tip of Africa is the wealthiest, and one of the largest countries on the continent.

It has a very advantageous location for trade routes by sea from Western Europe to India and the Far East. As a result, there was far more immigration by Europeans to South Africa than any other region of Africa, and whites of European ancestry (English and Dutch) ruled South Africa until the late twentieth century. Since then, democracy has brought representative government to the African ethnic groups.

==History==

The Dutch (or Boers) were the first to establish a European settlement in southern Africa, at Cape Colony on the very southern tip in 1652. This port supplied ships on the way to the Indiana Ocean. The Dutch emplyed Africans in conditions of indentured servitude, and set up farms for the unemployed Africans to work for the colonists' profit. In the 1800s the British arrived and took over Cape Colony, and disfavored the continuation of the Dutch system. The Dutch then moved inland, further north, in what is called the Great Trek. This created conflict with the native Africans.

In the late 1800s, an African ethnic group known as the Zulus rose to power in southern Africa, led by a military African genius named Shaka. But his successors could not retain power. By 1887 the British, with better military technology, defeated the Zulus.

The Boer War broke out between the British and the Boers in 1899. The dispute was sparked by disagreements over land, access to diamonds and gold discovered in South Africa, and whether immigrants should have political rights. The British won this war, and in 1902 established the Union of South Africa to include all the Boers republics. This country was controlled by the British but enjoyed some self-rule.

South Africa was the most complex, and the most prosperous, of the African colonies. As early as the 1600s the Dutch established Cape Town as a city at the southern tip of Africa. But during the Napoleonic Wars the British captured Cape Town (in 1815) and drove the Dutch (the “Boers”) inland. The Dutch favored continuation of slavery; the British abolished slavery in its empire in 1833.

The Boers fought the native Africans (Bantu tribes such as the Zulus) during the Great Trek of the Boers. The Boers founded two inland republics, the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. But the British were more powerful, and controlled wealthy diamond mines. The Brit Cecil Rhodes acquired great wealth through his monopoly of the diamond production in 1889, and he served as prime minister of the British Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896.

A Boer War ensued from 1899 to 1902, and afterwards it was the Boers (the Dutch) who established “apartheid”. Apartheid segregated the majority blacks from the minority whites in South Africa, with the white minority controlling the country.

The British granted South Africa independence in 1910, and it became a member of the British Commonwealth in 1931 with its constitution allowing white rule over the blacks. But the country was prosperous, and all enjoyed a higher standard of living than the remainder of Africa.

The Dutch South Africans (Afrikaner) gained control in 1948 when their National Party rose to power and enforced apartheid throughout South Africa. Homelands (segregated areas) were even established for the rival African tribes, and the whites reserved the best property for themselves. Ever since 1912 the all-black African National Congress (ANC) objected, but it was suppressed. Demonstrations, such as the 1960 Sharpeville Massacre, occasionally broke out but were violently put down. An ANC leader named Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for his role in that demonstration. Riots over school segregation occurred in Soweto in 1976, and in 1977 the government beat an outspoken critic, Steve Biko, to death.

There was increasing pressure worldwide for South Africa to end its racism. Its athletes were banned from the Olympics since the 1960s, and trade restrictions were imposed by other nations. A black South African bishop, Desmond Tutu, called for boycotts of his own nation.

Finally, in 1989, a new South African president named F.W. de Klerk was elected who would change the country. With international approval, de Klerk legalized the ANC, released Nelson Mandela from jail, and obtained repeal of apartheid laws, and agreed to fully democratic elections in 1994. Nelson Mandela then won those elections and the ANC won a majority in the National Assembly, the bigger house in the South African Parliament. A new constitution containing a bill of rights like that in the United States was adopted in 1996, though it also included entitlement and social rights.

South Africa will host the World Cup (soccer) in 2010, the first time it has ever been held in Africa.

== Crime in South Africa ==

One of the largest challanges which South Africa faces is Crime. [[Crime in South Africa]] is a major political and social issue.

Rape is endemic in South Africa. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1909220.stm]

[[South African Farm Murders]] is a highly political issue. According to the Government the murders are "just the result of ordinary crime", but the Agricultural Unions believe it forms part of [[Genocide]] committed against white people (People of European decent)in South Africa.
[http://www.tlu.co.za/International%20Bulletins/2007/IB070315%20%20Forced%20Sales,%20Expropriations%20and%20Farm%20Attacks%20-%20Two%20Sides%20of%20the%20same%20Coin.htm]

== Genocide in South Africa ==

The African National Congress is promoting Genocide against the boer in South Africa. [http://www.stopboergenocide.com/index2.html]. 1860 Farmers were killed in South Africa since 1994. 400,000 Afrikaners are destitute and starving in South Africa.

There is also a believe that there is a conspiricy to kill white people on a massive scale after the death of Nelson Mandela. One of the operations planned entails 70,000 armed black men "being transported to the Johannesburg city center within an hour" in taxicabs to attack whites. The plans are variously dubbed "Operation Vula," "Night of the Long Knives," "Operation White Clean-up," "Operation Iron Eagle" and "Red October campaign." [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37010]

The victims of this ongoing onslaught are invariably elderly, law-abiding, god-fearing whites, murdered in cold blood, in ways that beggar belief. For the edification of racism spotters in the West, "Carte Blanche" ought to have pointed out that their assailants are always black.
[http://www.ilanamercer.com/TheGenocideInDemocraticSA.htm]

== FIFA 2010 WORLD CUP ==

South Africa won the bid to host the [[FIFA 2010]] soccer world cup. [http://www.fifa.com/en/worldcup/index/0,3360,WF2010,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010]

== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ==

It is widely believed that the South African Government controls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a member of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute (FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] The informal media believe this is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas. It is also a method of the mainstream media to try and destroy opposition.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or on any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its professionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run there our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

The formal media selects the information it wants to publish. When letters are received from the public, only certain letters are published. Not all letters can be published due to a lack of space in a newspaper, but this is not the case with the informal media. Furthermore the formal media selects which letters it wants to publish, according to the political affiliation or agendas of the newspaper. It may deliberately censor certain individuals or political views, or any other comments on any subject it doesn't support. Distorted points of view can also be provided by selectively deleting sections of any letter or comments made by individuals. It is easy for the informal media to expose politicians who are protected (even supported) by the mainstream media.

The informal media provided the individual with the means to express themselves, and for others to take note.

As an example, the “[[Why South Africa Sucks]]” website is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/]

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]

The informal media in South Africa is not only critical about the situation in the country, but it also provides information on a wide range of subjects & different points of view.

== HIV and AIDS in South Africa ==

South Africa is currently experiencing one of the most severe [[AIDS]] epidemics in the world. [http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm]

== References ==

<references/>
*'''Taking the Bull out of Bullard''' Informal South African Media Response
[http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Category:African Countries]]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-16T00:16:34Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

The formal media selects the information it wants to publish. When letters are received from the public, only certain letters are published. Not all letters can be published due to a lack of space in a newspaper, but this is not the case with the informal media. Furthermore the formal media selects which letters it wants to publish, according to the political affiliation or agendas of the newspaper. It may deliberately cencor certain individuals or political views, or any other comments on any subject it doesn't support. Distorted points of view can also be provided by selectively deleting sections of any letter or comments made by an individuals. It is easy for the informal media to expose politicians which are protected (even supported) by the mainstream media. Therefore politicians are against the informal media.

The informal media provided the individual with the means to express themselves, and for others to take note.

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]

The informal media in South Africa is not only critical about the situation in the country, but it also provide information on a wide range of subjects & differnt points of view.

____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-16T00:10:52Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

The formal media selects the information it wants to publish. When letters are received from the public, only certain letters are published. Not all letters can be published due to a a lack of space in a newspaper, but this is not the case with the informal media. Furthermore the formal media selects which letters it wants to publish, according to the political affiliation or agendas of the newspaper. It may deliberately cencor certain individuals or political views, or any other comments on any subject it doesn't support. Distorted points of view can also be provided by selectively deleting sections of any letter or comments made by individuals.

It is easy for the informal media to expose politicians which are protected by the mainstream media. Therefore politicians are against the informal media.

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-16T00:01:20Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing individuals to post unedited information. The informal media (blogs) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-16T00:00:15Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which does not serve the ruling political party's (political) agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing indiciduals to post unedited information. The informal media (blog) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:54:18Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ LINK (INFO IN COMMENT SECTION POSTED BY NICK) http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which serves the ruling political party's agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing indiciduals to post unedited information. The informal media (blog) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:49:09Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ Freedom of individuals to say what they want

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which serves the ruling political party's agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is filling this gap by allowing indiciduals to post unedited information. The informal media (blog) serves as an outlet for all of those individuals that have the need to say what they really think about the situation in South Africa, or any other topic.

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:43:32Z

John99: Freedom of speech

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.
==Reverted material==
All this material has been removed from the main page, and the sources must be vetted for content before reinclusion. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

=== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ===

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Dr. Snuki Zikalala, the chief of SABC news and a members of the ruling ANC Government, is controlling the content of the news on the SABC. [http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html]

The Freedom of Expression Institute(FXI) is seriously concerned about the state of media freedom in South Africa [http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html] According to the formal media in South Africa "Freedom of expression has limits." [http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?area=/insight/insight__columnists/&articleid=264715] This is used as an excuse to censor news which is not politically correct, or which serves the ruling political party's agendas.

Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is performing is filling this gap.

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]
____

== INFORMAL COMMENT MADE ON THE CRIME EXPO SOUTH AFRICA . NET WEBSITE REGARDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH ==

Freedom of speech
written by a guest, May 14, 2007

Real freedom of speech can only exist in a free society.
This is not the case in SA. This has never been the case in the past and I believe that real freedom of opinion will become even more dangerous in future. Example Zimbabwe.

The way I feel about what is happening in this place cannot be expressed publicly with my name attached to it. I cannot even openly say what I think except in a small circle of trusted friends.

The Sucs blog serves as an outlet for all of those that have the need to say what they really think about the f*ck*d up situation in this country with a government openly supporting the criminal in some cases where it suites them. Hate speech, but of course only in one direction, is openly practiced by government officials high up and they do all in their power to kill the culture of certain population groups.

On this site I can add my comment but I have to be very careful with my choice of words and I have to make sure not to be too critical.

On the Sucs blog I can add my comment saying exactly what I think and using a nickname of choice.

I think there is a real need for blogs where very disappointed and very angry South Africans can freely comment!

Nick

This note was made in the comment section. [http://crimexposouthafrica.net/crimexp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1558&Itemid=2]

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:27:20Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ Limits to freedom of expression

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:19:33Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ Freedom of expression Institute concerns: http://www.fxi.org.za/pages/Home%20Page/Breaking%20News/PR_worldpressfreeday.html

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:07:09Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:05:51Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ ANC controls SABC News

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-15T23:04:02Z

John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ THE ANC CONTROL THE SABC http://www.news24.com/Rapport/Hoofartikels/0,,752-800_2013532,00.html

South Africa

2007-05-15T22:53:38Z

John99: /* Genocide in South Africa */ The victims of this ongoing onslaught [http://www.ilanamercer.com/TheGenocideInDemocraticSA.htm]

South Africa

2007-05-15T22:48:05Z

John99: /* Genocide in South Africa */ Night of the Long Knives

South Africa

2007-05-15T22:42:48Z

John99: Genocide in South Africa

Talk:South Africa

2007-05-14T17:45:50Z

John99: New page: Thanks for allowing conservative postings! Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia! Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.

Thanks for allowing conservative postings!

Thanks for not deleting posts, like done by Wikipedia!

Thanks for allowing the posting of the truth.

South Africa

2007-05-14T17:43:12Z

John99: THIS VERSION CONTAIN CONSERVATIVE INFORMATION. THE INFORMAL MEDIA IS SILENCED BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA BIAS.

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[[Image:South_africa.gif|right|250px]]

'''South Africa''' located on the southern tip of Africa is the wealthiest, and one of the largest countries on the continent.

It has a very advantageous location for trade routes by sea from Western Europe to India and the Far East. As a result, there was far more immigration by Europeans to South Africa than any other region of Africa, and whites of European ancestry (English and Dutch) ruled South Africa until the late twentieth century. Since then, democracy has brought representative government to the African ethnic groups.

The Dutch (or Boers) were the first to establish a European settlement in southern Africa, at Cape Colony on the very southern tip in 1652. This port supplied ships on the way to the Indiana Ocean. The Dutch emplyed Africans in conditions of indentured servitude, and set up farms for the unemployed Africans to work for the colonists' profit. In the 1800s the British arrived and took over Cape Colony, and disfavored the continuation of the Dutch system. The Dutch then moved inland, further north, in what is called the Great Trek. This created conflict with the native Africans.

In the late 1800s, an African ethnic group known as the Zulus rose to power in southern Africa, led by a military African genius named Shaka. But his successors could not retain power. By 1887 the British, with better military technology, defeated the Zulus.

The Boer War broke out between the British and the Boers in 1899. The dispute was sparked by disagreements over land, access to diamonds and gold discovered in South Africa, and whether immigrants should have political rights. The British won this war, and in 1902 established the Union of South Africa to include all the Boers republics. This country was controlled by the British but enjoyed some self-rule.

South Africa was the most complex, and the most prosperous, of the African colonies. As early as the 1600s the Dutch established Cape Town as a city at the southern tip of Africa. But during the Napoleonic Wars the British captured Cape Town (in 1815) and drove the Dutch (the “Boers”) inland. The Dutch favored continuation of slavery; the British abolished slavery in its empire in 1833.

The Boers fought the native Africans (Bantu tribes such as the Zulus) during the Great Trek of the Boers. The Boers founded two inland republics, the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. But the British were more powerful, and controlled wealthy diamond mines. The Brit Cecil Rhodes acquired great wealth through his monopoly of the diamond production in 1889, and he served as prime minister of the British Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896.

A Boer War ensued from 1899 to 1902, and afterwards it was the Boers (the Dutch) who established “apartheid”. Apartheid segregated the majority blacks from the minority whites in South Africa, with the white minority controlling the country.

The British granted South Africa independence in 1910, and it became a member of the British Commonwealth in 1931 with its constitution allowing white rule over the blacks. But the country was prosperous, and all enjoyed a higher standard of living than the remainder of Africa.

The Dutch South Africans (Afrikaner) gained control in 1948 when their National Party rose to power and enforced apartheid throughout South Africa. Homelands (segregated areas) were even established for the rival African tribes, and the whites reserved the best property for themselves. Ever since 1912 the all-black African National Congress (ANC) objected, but it was suppressed. Demonstrations, such as the 1960 Sharpeville Massacre, occasionally broke out but were violently put down. An ANC leader named Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for his role in that demonstration. Riots over school segregation occurred in Soweto in 1976, and in 1977 the government beat an outspoken critic, Steve Biko, to death.

There was increasing pressure worldwide for South Africa to end its racism. Its athletes were banned from the Olympics since the 1960s, and trade restrictions were imposed by other nations. A black South African bishop, Desmond Tutu, called for boycotts of his own nation.

Finally, in 1989, a new South African president named F.W. de Klerk was elected who would change the country. With international approval, de Klerk legalized the ANC, released Nelson Mandela from jail, and obtained repeal of apartheid laws, and agreed to fully democratic elections in 1994. Nelson Mandela then won those elections and the ANC won a majority in the National Assembly, the bigger house in the South African Parliament. A new constitution containing a bill of rights like that in the United States was adopted in 1996, though it also included entitlement and social rights.

South Africa will host the World Cup (soccer) in 2010, the first time it has ever been held in Africa.

== Criticism by the informal media in South Africa ==

It is widely believed that the South African Government controlls the South African Media. Therefore the public does not have access to uncencored news and information. The informal media is performing is filling this gap.

The official South African media criticised the informal media, and questioned its proffessionalism, but some bloggers are actually reporters, or they have worked as reporters in the formal media. Some bloggers are highly intelligent, qualified and degreed, they run their our own successful companies and are well informed on the political situation in South Africa. [http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] is one of the most popular South African Internet Blogs, critical of the [[crime]], [[Corruption]] & [[Genocide]] in South Africa. It was started on 13 Nov 2006. It recorded 222,006 hits since inception. There are 4 persons contributing to Articles on Why South Africa Sucks.[http://www.southafricasucks.blogspot.com/] They are:

* Knorrig
* Eli the Bearded
* The Uhuru Guru
* The Real Realist

Other websites in the informal media is also critical of the government. The mainstream media tries to ignore these websites. They refuse to refer to them.

The website [[African Crisis]] also reports on issues critical to South Africa. [http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php]

Other informal websites critical of the situation in South Africa is:
* '''[[Crime Expo South Africa]] . Net''' [http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/]

* '''[[The Right Perspective]]''' [http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/]

== Crime in South Africa ==

One of the largest challanges which South Africa faces is Crime. [[Crime in South Africa]] is a major political and social issue.

Rape is endemic in South Africa. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1909220.stm]

[[South African Farm Murders]] is a highly political issue. According to the Government the murders are "just the result of ordinary crime", but the Agricultural Unions believe it forms part of [[Genocide]] committed against white people (People of European decent)in South Africa.
[http://www.tlu.co.za/International%20Bulletins/2007/IB070315%20%20Forced%20Sales,%20Expropriations%20and%20Farm%20Attacks%20-%20Two%20Sides%20of%20the%20same%20Coin.htm]

== FIFA 2010 WORLD CUP ==

South Africa won the bid to host the [[FIFA 2010]] soccer world cup. [http://www.fifa.com/en/worldcup/index/0,3360,WF2010,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010]

== HIV and AIDS in South Africa ==

South Africa is currently experiencing one of the most severe [[AIDS]] epidemics in the world. [http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm]

== References ==

<references/>

[[Why South Africa Sucks]] '''Taking the Bull out of Bullard''' Informal South African Media Response
[http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html]

[[Category:African Countries]]

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==Intelligent design lock==
hi, I tried making a suggestion for the structuring of the ID page about a month ago and listed my comments on the talk page. I haven't received any replies indicating problems with my suggestion (see Evidence -> Support). Can you update the main article please? --[[User:Propro|Propro]] 14:03, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Uploads ==

Dude, what is the deal with [[Special:Upload]]? I can ''never'' cause it to function appropriately. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 18:58, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

==Pic==
LOL! Love the banner on your user page. Ames will be pleased :P. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:58, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

== User Boxes... ==

Do I understand yours to mean you have something against Poultry? I'm shocked! Were do you stand on Turkey and Chicken, Mr. Webmaster? Exactly. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 20:00, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Love==
I think the new look of your user page is simply ''fabulous!''.[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 21:35, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Sysop Pledge==

As my good deed of the day I am requesting that you place this template on your userpage. Participating sysops will earn my respect and gratitude. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 23:55, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

{{Sysop Pledge}}

Ben... you're a riot [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

==Proposed Block Policy==
There has recently been some disagreement over blocks, so I have created a [[User:CPAdmin1/Proposed Block Policy|proposed block policy]]
Tell me what you think. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 23:23, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

: Responded via email... dislike it. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

::Gosh, that is so "un-wiki" like, a private response, I would have been insulted for doing that, lol. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 04:01, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::Philip, could you please explain what you have against my policy. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 09:32, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::: Tim, I believe that this Wiki is something like a free-market. You have the supply (us editors) and the demand (people who want to use the site). What usually happens when a free-market becomes regulated? It is no longer free. Rules and regulations destroy the system. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 09:44, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::So you prefer Anarchy? --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 14:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::: No Tim. Rules that are essential to the site such as no obscenity, etc. are the only rules that are needed. In the real world this would be comparable to laws against murder, stealing, etc. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 17:05, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

==Unblock Myk==
I have agreed to unblocking Myk. Is there a function with which to do so? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:09, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

*Thanks, Karajou, I was supposed to message you too, but so much is happening it was delayed. I will do it for you, the unblocking.--~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 01:23, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Change to the T-Rex page==
CPwebmaster, why the change on the T-Rex page? The research was cited and just released. Did you happen to read it before reverting?--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:04, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:I don't agree with TimS' edits (and I will explain why on the talk page tomorrow), but neither do I agree with the amount that you removed. In cases like there where there is obviously or likely to be disagreement, couldn't you at the very least explain your rationale in the edit comment or on the talk page? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:27, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:: Yes... I did remove too much information... fixed [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:43, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Missing Links ==

For the computer illiterate, like me, would you consider restoring the link to "Special Pages" on the left? It is missing on several pages I was just on, but shows here on your own page...... --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 06:33, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== Good block ==

Good block this morning. The contributor has made many valid edits, so the one week time period is appropriate.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:24, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== request ==

I sent a letter of assistance regarding our abortion articles to right to life groups and I sent about 40 emails. Keep an eye on my user discussion page for people saying they are interested in being Admins/SYSOPS. Look at their edits and promote them to Admins if you think it is warranted. Here is my discussion page: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Conservative [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

:Could you please revert the [[macroevolution]] article to the way it was before it was submitted to the panel? I left you a diff on the talk page. I understood that this was the policy regarding the panel - at least that's how it was with [[evolution]].-'''AmesG'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!] 11:52, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

::I really don't see why this should be done. The article in its present state is perfectly acceptable. Also, I don't know of the policy you speak of. Can you point it out? Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:12, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

== [[CP:RFA]] ==

Someone needs to periodically update this, and take the appropriate course of action for the applicants, and you seem to be a likely canidate. Thanks. --[[User:Hacker|Hacker]]<code>([[User talk:Hacker|Write some code]])</code> 21:53, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

== Anti Gun ==

I'm anti-gun, however I like to play devil's advocate sometimes. I do not believe that academic discourse can progress without competing ideas. --[[User:TrueGrit|TrueGrit]] 20:30, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

: That is awesome! It's great to see some thinkers around here. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:33, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

== Edit War with Conservative ==

CPWebmaster, I was upholding the decision of the panel. See the discussion on Philip J. Rayment's talk page [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Philip_J._Rayment#question_regarding_pro_evolutionary_books_being_added_to_TOE_article here]. The Panel approved a version of the article ''with'' the free online text of "The Origin of Species", though Conservative removed the link merely eight minutes before the Panel made it's decision (Conservative removed book at 18:21 April 9, decision made 18:29 April 9); clearly too short of a time, as the panel had been deliberating for quite some time. Andy has also made his anti-censorship view very explicit. Other sysops had also supported the inclusion of the book, as it is the single most relevant book on the topic that exists. The pro-inclusion sysops provided their reasons and justifications, though Conservative kept reverting without ''any'' justification, or discussion (except for an attempt to draw the conversation off topic at [[Talk:Theory of evolution]]). Perhaps you should warn [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] to not work against what has been made explicitly clear. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

: Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't. Please do not get into any more revert wars with Conservative or any other user. Thank you. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 19:58, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Theory_of_evolution&diff=prev&oldid=96144 Here] is where the panel says that addition of references and further reading books is acceptable. And please, warn the other party in this edit war as well, as he is equally guilty. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::: I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:06, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::: Forgive me, but it is hard to avoid an edit war when you cite justifications for your edits, ''prove'' that you are undoubtedly correct, and the [[User:Conservative|other user]] provides no justification and runs from answering any kind of question. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:07, 18 April 2007 (EDT) 
::::What other revert wars is [[User:Hojimachong| Hojimachong]] engaged in?[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 20:14, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::None, at the moment. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:16, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::: You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:17, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::::::: I fully understand that edit wars are bad to engage in, and should be avoided. But I think you are missing my point as well; There was evidence to back up a specific view, posted on the talk page, and told to Conservative even ''before'' he removed the books (He ''asked'' Philip J. Rayment about removing the books. Philip said he shouldn't; Conservative did it anyways). I think Conservative needs to be reprimanded in some way, shape, or form; I don't see him being warned for the edit war. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:19, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::::: Once again, Conservative made a change against the panel, consensus, and Andy. When is this ''vandalism'' going to be taken note of? --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 22:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

CPWebmaster, I want to highlight two things that you said:
* "''I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case.''"
* "''You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time.''"
Okay, perhaps Hojimachong has been involved in other edit wars; I haven't checked. And if true, and if that is not true of Conservative, then perhaps you do have a defence for what is otherwise a prima-facie case of favouritism. But you also seem to be "dodging the bullet" yourself. On Wikipedia, ''both'' editors would have been given blocks twice over for this particular incident, and ''both'' editors are "wasting everyone's time". You also said:
* "''Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't.''"
That's precisely the point. I "changed" (added) some references (books for further reading), and Conservative started the revert war (in the sense that he made the first reversion) by removing them on the grounds that they were against the Panel's decision. You have here acknowledged that they are not against the Panel's decision, indicating that it was Conservative who was in the wrong, yet it is Hojimaching that you are warning.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I agree with Conservative's worldview, and disagree with some of Hojimachong's. And it was Conservative that first suggested that I be a sysop. It pains me to have to take a stand against him on this, but I believe that truth and justice  warrants it in this case.

[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:10, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

:Well spoken, Philip. For me, this all fell under the "two wrongs don't make a right" consideration. Those who have been around more than a month know I have publicly disagreed with Sysop Conservative many times. Not on ideological or political grounds, but because of this absolute unwillingness to engage others, or even answer their questions. And I don't agree with blocking people without some explanation, if only to fellow Sysop's. He has gotten much better at responding, however. All of the points above, raised by everyone don't make engaging in a squalid public fight over editing, conducted by Sysop's, right. It is hard to preach to editors not to do something Administrators are constantly doing, eh? No matter if it is reverting each other's edits, or reverting blocks, it is the same principle; "Do as I say, not as I do". I think that is more what the Webmaster's point was, knowing full well the danger of supposition. ;-) --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 03:10, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

== Problems with my watchlist ==

I appear to be having problems with my watchlist. Occasionally I notice articles that are changed are not appearing on my watchlist. It appears to be articles which have been protected. Protected articles that I put on my watchlist, or that I edit, are okay, but articles that I already have on my watchlist that are then protected don't appear, at least sometimes (until I edit them again). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:18, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

== small favor ==

I permanently blocked someone and it was by mistake. I think I fixed it but I am not sure. Please make sure Bill_M can edit. 00:04, 22 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

: He's not blocked. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 00:06, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Please vote for me ==

Please vote for me here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Request_for_Bureaucratship [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:38, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Changing User Name ==

I'm wondering how I can change my User Name. Can it be done? If so, how? Please let me know. --[[User:Jtpaladin|Jtpaladin]] 21:47, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
: It would probably be best to just create a new account. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 23:10, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
::Any bureaucrat can handle a name change for you. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]][[User_talk:ColinR|talk]] 02:09, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== My contributions ==

I think there's something wrong with my contributions, all edits prior to today seem to have vanished [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Aschl%D0%B0fly link]. Would you be able to look into it for me? Thank you and God bless. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:17, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
: No there isn't. Look back in the recent changes for the creation of a new 'User:Aschlafly'. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Log/newusers Here]. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

So is it possible to ban the fake ASchlafly and the fake Conservative before they do more damage to the site and to the reputations of the real things?--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 13:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

:Sure, as long as the person doing it know what they are doing and pays attention. Oh................well...........it would normally be possible but after all SYSOP promotion here has little to do with understanding what the heck you are doing. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 13:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
:: I don't know. No mods seem to be currently active. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

==thank you==

thank you for fixing my talk page. --[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 10:34, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

: you're welcome [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:31, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== Edit to wombat ==

Please see the talk page and explain your reversion. Thanks. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 11:16, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Image libs ==

Are we using GD or ImageMagick? --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 15:33, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==Merge==

Thanks for this merge. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dinosaur&curid=6394&diff=155595&oldid=155117]
What other maintenance tasks can we do together? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:04, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

: It seems that there are a '''lot''' of templates that are not being user and/or are worthless. Going through those would be good. Thanks for the help! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:07, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::I deleted 4 unused templates. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:17, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:::Could you also remove them from [[help:templates]] please? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:38, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::::I was addressing that request to Ed, but thanks anyway. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:26, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Actually, a few of those deleted templates were either in use (although in only one or two pages). Also, a few were designed to be used with Subst:, which means that they aren't "in use" but may still be required. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:43, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

== MediaWiki stuff ==

I have two suggestions:

# You really should install [http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking interwiki links] to Wikipedia, it would make life easier.
# [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExtraNamespaces Extra namespaces], i.e. "Debate:" would also be helpful. Currently, all debate pages reside in the Project namespace, which, to a techie like myself, is physically painful :).

--[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 20:23, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:What's the point of the interwiki links if we are normally not supposed to link to Wikipedia anyway?
:I agree with the second suggestion.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:29, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

*Yes, I agree with Philip. Another Sysop on Friday found several pictures linked to article pages here, from WP. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:53, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Kewl. Thanks. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:05, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Once more thing: for a wiki of this description, [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] might be quite useful. For instance, if Icew*dge decides to use an edit summary of "F*** F*** F*** F*** F***", it can be hidden, so people won't stumble across it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 17:47, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Oh yes, and you should add a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ImageMagick#Licensing licensing menu] to the upload page. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:20, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Spam Filters... ==

My talk page, somewhere on it is the ice name, and spam filter is not allowing me to save my changes with it on there.....--[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:05, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:Fixed it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:44, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Now, now, you fixed it on my page, but don't the filters need tweaking really? --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 12:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Just put I**W*****. We really don't want them to be able to post that anywhere on the site. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::: Unless that is case-sensitive and excludes spaces, I can easily imagine that having too many false positives. By the way, you beat me to ban the latest incarnation of said vandal by a very few seconds! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:36, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Our two Philip's are like dynamos today! --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 13:45, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::I used Unicode… --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Something has indeed changed, for I cannot remain logged in as I used to. I didn't change my comp settings, but now being idle for 15 + minutes, I must log in again. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 19:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Changing Signature ==

I can't figure out how to change my default signature and decided you would be the most appropriate person to ask.--Favor 19:41, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Problem with spam filter ==

It is now impossible to post in a section that contains the signature of a certain vandal who's signature I cannot post because the spam filter wont let me.--[[User:Favor|Favor]] 00:25, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

What I recommend you do it go ahead and remove all instances of that name on said page. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:29, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: Yes, replace all instances with I**W*****. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:00, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

== Why did you delete the article on "Why South Africa Sucks" ==
Please comment on my talk page. Did you delete it, or did you move it? {{unsigned|John99}}

I hope you won't mind. I created another article of "[[Why South Africa Sucks]]". The reason being that there is to much information available on this blog to warrent further expantion on the [[South Africa]] article. This website may be used as a source of information on South African Issues. --[[User:John99|John99]] 12:48, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

I NOTED THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES WERE DELETED:

* [[The Right Perspective]] http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/

* [[African Crisis]] http://www.africancrisis.org/default2.asp

* [[Crime Expo South Africa]] http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/

Thanks for your understanding. All these articles were sabotaged on Wikipedia.

==Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is incorrect==
CPWebmaster, the Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is not the correct name for the neanderthal. It is Homo neanderthalensis. Neanderthalensis and Sapiens are different species. Please correct.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: That is incorrect, they are not different species. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:08, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:CPWebmaster, you are wrong. Please provide your proof. According to Taxonomy they are different.
::http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/neand.htm
::http://www.archaeologyinfo.com/homoneaderthalensis.htm
::--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:12, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Both of those are false, biased sources of information. Read [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/worthy-ancestors this] please. Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:22, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: AIG is unbiased? You are saying that AIG is more valid than the Smithsonian Institution? Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is a contraversial subspecies of the Homo sapiens whereas Homo neanderthalensis is the accepted species for the neanderthal. The correct way of listing taxonomy is genius and then species not genius, species then subspecies. So by your way of resoning this should be listed under Homo sapiens. Anyone one with a little biological taxonomy traning would see this as a farse.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:33, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: When it comes to origins, AIG is obviously more valid than the Smithsonian. I am aware that Homo neanderthalensis is the "accepted" species, but this is merely hopeful thinking by evolutionists. In reality, Homo neanderthalensis is HUMAN. I placed it under a sub-species because I did not want it to conflict with the human article. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:49, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

::If homo neanderthalensis is human as you said above, then why not list it with Homo sapiens? CPWebmaster, I can not understand why you would perceive AIG as more valid than the Smithsonian. There are thousands more scientists working and submitting to the Smithsonian than AIG. This provides a more critical environment for research. AIG struggles to have PhDs write articles within the scope of their discipline. How many times have you seen a physicist write about biology at AIG? The point is that if you plan to use taxonomy to describe an organism then you must follow taxonomy rules to describe the organism. Meaning if you wish to say that Neanderthal was a subspecies of Homo sapiens then you need to list Neanderthal as Homo sapiens. Otherwise you need to place it back with homo neanderthalensis.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Your source is also overstepping its bounds by claiming that Neanderthals and humans are both able to speak in the same manner. This is a mater still under debate by most physical anthropologists. There are also many skeletal differences between the two species. [[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 12:18, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Do I even have to mention that based on a taxonomy the way this article is listed Neanderthal is of the same level as European, African, Asian, ect. If this is the case then why did they die out while Europeans thrived?--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 13:19, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

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==Intelligent design lock==
hi, I tried making a suggestion for the structuring of the ID page about a month ago and listed my comments on the talk page. I haven't received any replies indicating problems with my suggestion (see Evidence -> Support). Can you update the main article please? --[[User:Propro|Propro]] 14:03, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Uploads ==

Dude, what is the deal with [[Special:Upload]]? I can ''never'' cause it to function appropriately. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 18:58, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

==Pic==
LOL! Love the banner on your user page. Ames will be pleased :P. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:58, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

== User Boxes... ==

Do I understand yours to mean you have something against Poultry? I'm shocked! Were do you stand on Turkey and Chicken, Mr. Webmaster? Exactly. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 20:00, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Love==
I think the new look of your user page is simply ''fabulous!''.[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 21:35, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Sysop Pledge==

As my good deed of the day I am requesting that you place this template on your userpage. Participating sysops will earn my respect and gratitude. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 23:55, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

{{Sysop Pledge}}

Ben... you're a riot [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

==Proposed Block Policy==
There has recently been some disagreement over blocks, so I have created a [[User:CPAdmin1/Proposed Block Policy|proposed block policy]]
Tell me what you think. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 23:23, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

: Responded via email... dislike it. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

::Gosh, that is so "un-wiki" like, a private response, I would have been insulted for doing that, lol. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 04:01, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::Philip, could you please explain what you have against my policy. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 09:32, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::: Tim, I believe that this Wiki is something like a free-market. You have the supply (us editors) and the demand (people who want to use the site). What usually happens when a free-market becomes regulated? It is no longer free. Rules and regulations destroy the system. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 09:44, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::So you prefer Anarchy? --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 14:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::: No Tim. Rules that are essential to the site such as no obscenity, etc. are the only rules that are needed. In the real world this would be comparable to laws against murder, stealing, etc. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 17:05, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

==Unblock Myk==
I have agreed to unblocking Myk. Is there a function with which to do so? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:09, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

*Thanks, Karajou, I was supposed to message you too, but so much is happening it was delayed. I will do it for you, the unblocking.--~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 01:23, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Change to the T-Rex page==
CPwebmaster, why the change on the T-Rex page? The research was cited and just released. Did you happen to read it before reverting?--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:04, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:I don't agree with TimS' edits (and I will explain why on the talk page tomorrow), but neither do I agree with the amount that you removed. In cases like there where there is obviously or likely to be disagreement, couldn't you at the very least explain your rationale in the edit comment or on the talk page? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:27, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:: Yes... I did remove too much information... fixed [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:43, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Missing Links ==

For the computer illiterate, like me, would you consider restoring the link to "Special Pages" on the left? It is missing on several pages I was just on, but shows here on your own page...... --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 06:33, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== Good block ==

Good block this morning. The contributor has made many valid edits, so the one week time period is appropriate.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:24, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== request ==

I sent a letter of assistance regarding our abortion articles to right to life groups and I sent about 40 emails. Keep an eye on my user discussion page for people saying they are interested in being Admins/SYSOPS. Look at their edits and promote them to Admins if you think it is warranted. Here is my discussion page: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Conservative [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

:Could you please revert the [[macroevolution]] article to the way it was before it was submitted to the panel? I left you a diff on the talk page. I understood that this was the policy regarding the panel - at least that's how it was with [[evolution]].-'''AmesG'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!] 11:52, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

::I really don't see why this should be done. The article in its present state is perfectly acceptable. Also, I don't know of the policy you speak of. Can you point it out? Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:12, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

== [[CP:RFA]] ==

Someone needs to periodically update this, and take the appropriate course of action for the applicants, and you seem to be a likely canidate. Thanks. --[[User:Hacker|Hacker]]<code>([[User talk:Hacker|Write some code]])</code> 21:53, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

== Anti Gun ==

I'm anti-gun, however I like to play devil's advocate sometimes. I do not believe that academic discourse can progress without competing ideas. --[[User:TrueGrit|TrueGrit]] 20:30, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

: That is awesome! It's great to see some thinkers around here. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:33, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

== Edit War with Conservative ==

CPWebmaster, I was upholding the decision of the panel. See the discussion on Philip J. Rayment's talk page [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Philip_J._Rayment#question_regarding_pro_evolutionary_books_being_added_to_TOE_article here]. The Panel approved a version of the article ''with'' the free online text of "The Origin of Species", though Conservative removed the link merely eight minutes before the Panel made it's decision (Conservative removed book at 18:21 April 9, decision made 18:29 April 9); clearly too short of a time, as the panel had been deliberating for quite some time. Andy has also made his anti-censorship view very explicit. Other sysops had also supported the inclusion of the book, as it is the single most relevant book on the topic that exists. The pro-inclusion sysops provided their reasons and justifications, though Conservative kept reverting without ''any'' justification, or discussion (except for an attempt to draw the conversation off topic at [[Talk:Theory of evolution]]). Perhaps you should warn [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] to not work against what has been made explicitly clear. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

: Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't. Please do not get into any more revert wars with Conservative or any other user. Thank you. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 19:58, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Theory_of_evolution&diff=prev&oldid=96144 Here] is where the panel says that addition of references and further reading books is acceptable. And please, warn the other party in this edit war as well, as he is equally guilty. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::: I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:06, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::: Forgive me, but it is hard to avoid an edit war when you cite justifications for your edits, ''prove'' that you are undoubtedly correct, and the [[User:Conservative|other user]] provides no justification and runs from answering any kind of question. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:07, 18 April 2007 (EDT) 
::::What other revert wars is [[User:Hojimachong| Hojimachong]] engaged in?[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 20:14, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::None, at the moment. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:16, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::: You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:17, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::::::: I fully understand that edit wars are bad to engage in, and should be avoided. But I think you are missing my point as well; There was evidence to back up a specific view, posted on the talk page, and told to Conservative even ''before'' he removed the books (He ''asked'' Philip J. Rayment about removing the books. Philip said he shouldn't; Conservative did it anyways). I think Conservative needs to be reprimanded in some way, shape, or form; I don't see him being warned for the edit war. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:19, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::::: Once again, Conservative made a change against the panel, consensus, and Andy. When is this ''vandalism'' going to be taken note of? --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 22:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

CPWebmaster, I want to highlight two things that you said:
* "''I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case.''"
* "''You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time.''"
Okay, perhaps Hojimachong has been involved in other edit wars; I haven't checked. And if true, and if that is not true of Conservative, then perhaps you do have a defence for what is otherwise a prima-facie case of favouritism. But you also seem to be "dodging the bullet" yourself. On Wikipedia, ''both'' editors would have been given blocks twice over for this particular incident, and ''both'' editors are "wasting everyone's time". You also said:
* "''Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't.''"
That's precisely the point. I "changed" (added) some references (books for further reading), and Conservative started the revert war (in the sense that he made the first reversion) by removing them on the grounds that they were against the Panel's decision. You have here acknowledged that they are not against the Panel's decision, indicating that it was Conservative who was in the wrong, yet it is Hojimaching that you are warning.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I agree with Conservative's worldview, and disagree with some of Hojimachong's. And it was Conservative that first suggested that I be a sysop. It pains me to have to take a stand against him on this, but I believe that truth and justice  warrants it in this case.

[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:10, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

:Well spoken, Philip. For me, this all fell under the "two wrongs don't make a right" consideration. Those who have been around more than a month know I have publicly disagreed with Sysop Conservative many times. Not on ideological or political grounds, but because of this absolute unwillingness to engage others, or even answer their questions. And I don't agree with blocking people without some explanation, if only to fellow Sysop's. He has gotten much better at responding, however. All of the points above, raised by everyone don't make engaging in a squalid public fight over editing, conducted by Sysop's, right. It is hard to preach to editors not to do something Administrators are constantly doing, eh? No matter if it is reverting each other's edits, or reverting blocks, it is the same principle; "Do as I say, not as I do". I think that is more what the Webmaster's point was, knowing full well the danger of supposition. ;-) --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 03:10, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

== Problems with my watchlist ==

I appear to be having problems with my watchlist. Occasionally I notice articles that are changed are not appearing on my watchlist. It appears to be articles which have been protected. Protected articles that I put on my watchlist, or that I edit, are okay, but articles that I already have on my watchlist that are then protected don't appear, at least sometimes (until I edit them again). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:18, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

== small favor ==

I permanently blocked someone and it was by mistake. I think I fixed it but I am not sure. Please make sure Bill_M can edit. 00:04, 22 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

: He's not blocked. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 00:06, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Please vote for me ==

Please vote for me here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Request_for_Bureaucratship [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:38, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Changing User Name ==

I'm wondering how I can change my User Name. Can it be done? If so, how? Please let me know. --[[User:Jtpaladin|Jtpaladin]] 21:47, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
: It would probably be best to just create a new account. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 23:10, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
::Any bureaucrat can handle a name change for you. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]][[User_talk:ColinR|talk]] 02:09, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== My contributions ==

I think there's something wrong with my contributions, all edits prior to today seem to have vanished [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Aschl%D0%B0fly link]. Would you be able to look into it for me? Thank you and God bless. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:17, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
: No there isn't. Look back in the recent changes for the creation of a new 'User:Aschlafly'. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Log/newusers Here]. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

So is it possible to ban the fake ASchlafly and the fake Conservative before they do more damage to the site and to the reputations of the real things?--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 13:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

:Sure, as long as the person doing it know what they are doing and pays attention. Oh................well...........it would normally be possible but after all SYSOP promotion here has little to do with understanding what the heck you are doing. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 13:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
:: I don't know. No mods seem to be currently active. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

==thank you==

thank you for fixing my talk page. --[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 10:34, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

: you're welcome [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:31, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== Edit to wombat ==

Please see the talk page and explain your reversion. Thanks. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 11:16, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Image libs ==

Are we using GD or ImageMagick? --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 15:33, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==Merge==

Thanks for this merge. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dinosaur&curid=6394&diff=155595&oldid=155117]
What other maintenance tasks can we do together? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:04, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

: It seems that there are a '''lot''' of templates that are not being user and/or are worthless. Going through those would be good. Thanks for the help! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:07, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::I deleted 4 unused templates. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:17, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:::Could you also remove them from [[help:templates]] please? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:38, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::::I was addressing that request to Ed, but thanks anyway. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:26, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Actually, a few of those deleted templates were either in use (although in only one or two pages). Also, a few were designed to be used with Subst:, which means that they aren't "in use" but may still be required. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:43, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

== MediaWiki stuff ==

I have two suggestions:

# You really should install [http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking interwiki links] to Wikipedia, it would make life easier.
# [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExtraNamespaces Extra namespaces], i.e. "Debate:" would also be helpful. Currently, all debate pages reside in the Project namespace, which, to a techie like myself, is physically painful :).

--[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 20:23, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:What's the point of the interwiki links if we are normally not supposed to link to Wikipedia anyway?
:I agree with the second suggestion.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:29, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

*Yes, I agree with Philip. Another Sysop on Friday found several pictures linked to article pages here, from WP. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:53, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Kewl. Thanks. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:05, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Once more thing: for a wiki of this description, [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] might be quite useful. For instance, if Icew*dge decides to use an edit summary of "F*** F*** F*** F*** F***", it can be hidden, so people won't stumble across it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 17:47, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Oh yes, and you should add a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ImageMagick#Licensing licensing menu] to the upload page. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:20, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Spam Filters... ==

My talk page, somewhere on it is the ice name, and spam filter is not allowing me to save my changes with it on there.....--[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:05, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:Fixed it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:44, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Now, now, you fixed it on my page, but don't the filters need tweaking really? --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 12:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Just put I**W*****. We really don't want them to be able to post that anywhere on the site. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::: Unless that is case-sensitive and excludes spaces, I can easily imagine that having too many false positives. By the way, you beat me to ban the latest incarnation of said vandal by a very few seconds! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:36, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Our two Philip's are like dynamos today! --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 13:45, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::I used Unicode… --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Something has indeed changed, for I cannot remain logged in as I used to. I didn't change my comp settings, but now being idle for 15 + minutes, I must log in again. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 19:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Changing Signature ==

I can't figure out how to change my default signature and decided you would be the most appropriate person to ask.--Favor 19:41, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Problem with spam filter ==

It is now impossible to post in a section that contains the signature of a certain vandal who's signature I cannot post because the spam filter wont let me.--[[User:Favor|Favor]] 00:25, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

What I recommend you do it go ahead and remove all instances of that name on said page. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:29, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: Yes, replace all instances with I**W*****. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:00, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

== Why did you delete the article on "Why South Africa Sucks" ==
Please comment on my talk page. Did you delete it, or did you move it? {{unsigned|John99}}

I hope you won't mind. I created another article of "[[Why South Africa Sucks]]". The reason being that there is to much information available on this blog to warrent further expantion on the [[South Africa]] article. This website may be used as a source of information on South African Issues. --[[User:John99|John99]] 12:48, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

==Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is incorrect==
CPWebmaster, the Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is not the correct name for the neanderthal. It is Homo neanderthalensis. Neanderthalensis and Sapiens are different species. Please correct.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: That is incorrect, they are not different species. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:08, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:CPWebmaster, you are wrong. Please provide your proof. According to Taxonomy they are different.
::http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/neand.htm
::http://www.archaeologyinfo.com/homoneaderthalensis.htm
::--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:12, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Both of those are false, biased sources of information. Read [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/worthy-ancestors this] please. Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:22, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: AIG is unbiased? You are saying that AIG is more valid than the Smithsonian Institution? Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is a contraversial subspecies of the Homo sapiens whereas Homo neanderthalensis is the accepted species for the neanderthal. The correct way of listing taxonomy is genius and then species not genius, species then subspecies. So by your way of resoning this should be listed under Homo sapiens. Anyone one with a little biological taxonomy traning would see this as a farse.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:33, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: When it comes to origins, AIG is obviously more valid than the Smithsonian. I am aware that Homo neanderthalensis is the "accepted" species, but this is merely hopeful thinking by evolutionists. In reality, Homo neanderthalensis is HUMAN. I placed it under a sub-species because I did not want it to conflict with the human article. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:49, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

::If homo neanderthalensis is human as you said above, then why not list it with Homo sapiens? CPWebmaster, I can not understand why you would perceive AIG as more valid than the Smithsonian. There are thousands more scientists working and submitting to the Smithsonian than AIG. This provides a more critical environment for research. AIG struggles to have PhDs write articles within the scope of their discipline. How many times have you seen a physicist write about biology at AIG? The point is that if you plan to use taxonomy to describe an organism then you must follow taxonomy rules to describe the organism. Meaning if you wish to say that Neanderthal was a subspecies of Homo sapiens then you need to list Neanderthal as Homo sapiens. Otherwise you need to place it back with homo neanderthalensis.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Your source is also overstepping its bounds by claiming that Neanderthals and humans are both able to speak in the same manner. This is a mater still under debate by most physical anthropologists. There are also many skeletal differences between the two species. [[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 12:18, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

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==Intelligent design lock==
hi, I tried making a suggestion for the structuring of the ID page about a month ago and listed my comments on the talk page. I haven't received any replies indicating problems with my suggestion (see Evidence -> Support). Can you update the main article please? --[[User:Propro|Propro]] 14:03, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Uploads ==

Dude, what is the deal with [[Special:Upload]]? I can ''never'' cause it to function appropriately. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 18:58, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

==Pic==
LOL! Love the banner on your user page. Ames will be pleased :P. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:58, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

== User Boxes... ==

Do I understand yours to mean you have something against Poultry? I'm shocked! Were do you stand on Turkey and Chicken, Mr. Webmaster? Exactly. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 20:00, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Love==
I think the new look of your user page is simply ''fabulous!''.[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 21:35, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

==Sysop Pledge==

As my good deed of the day I am requesting that you place this template on your userpage. Participating sysops will earn my respect and gratitude. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 23:55, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

{{Sysop Pledge}}

Ben... you're a riot [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

==Proposed Block Policy==
There has recently been some disagreement over blocks, so I have created a [[User:CPAdmin1/Proposed Block Policy|proposed block policy]]
Tell me what you think. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 23:23, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

: Responded via email... dislike it. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

::Gosh, that is so "un-wiki" like, a private response, I would have been insulted for doing that, lol. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 04:01, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::Philip, could you please explain what you have against my policy. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 09:32, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::: Tim, I believe that this Wiki is something like a free-market. You have the supply (us editors) and the demand (people who want to use the site). What usually happens when a free-market becomes regulated? It is no longer free. Rules and regulations destroy the system. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 09:44, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::So you prefer Anarchy? --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 14:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

:::::: No Tim. Rules that are essential to the site such as no obscenity, etc. are the only rules that are needed. In the real world this would be comparable to laws against murder, stealing, etc. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 17:05, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

==Unblock Myk==
I have agreed to unblocking Myk. Is there a function with which to do so? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:09, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

*Thanks, Karajou, I was supposed to message you too, but so much is happening it was delayed. I will do it for you, the unblocking.--~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 01:23, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Change to the T-Rex page==
CPwebmaster, why the change on the T-Rex page? The research was cited and just released. Did you happen to read it before reverting?--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:04, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:I don't agree with TimS' edits (and I will explain why on the talk page tomorrow), but neither do I agree with the amount that you removed. In cases like there where there is obviously or likely to be disagreement, couldn't you at the very least explain your rationale in the edit comment or on the talk page? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:27, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
:: Yes... I did remove too much information... fixed [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:43, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

== Missing Links ==

For the computer illiterate, like me, would you consider restoring the link to "Special Pages" on the left? It is missing on several pages I was just on, but shows here on your own page...... --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 06:33, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== Good block ==

Good block this morning. The contributor has made many valid edits, so the one week time period is appropriate.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:24, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

== request ==

I sent a letter of assistance regarding our abortion articles to right to life groups and I sent about 40 emails. Keep an eye on my user discussion page for people saying they are interested in being Admins/SYSOPS. Look at their edits and promote them to Admins if you think it is warranted. Here is my discussion page: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Conservative [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:35, 14 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

:Could you please revert the [[macroevolution]] article to the way it was before it was submitted to the panel? I left you a diff on the talk page. I understood that this was the policy regarding the panel - at least that's how it was with [[evolution]].-'''AmesG'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:AmesG yo!] 11:52, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

::I really don't see why this should be done. The article in its present state is perfectly acceptable. Also, I don't know of the policy you speak of. Can you point it out? Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:12, 15 April 2007 (EDT)

== [[CP:RFA]] ==

Someone needs to periodically update this, and take the appropriate course of action for the applicants, and you seem to be a likely canidate. Thanks. --[[User:Hacker|Hacker]]<code>([[User talk:Hacker|Write some code]])</code> 21:53, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

== Anti Gun ==

I'm anti-gun, however I like to play devil's advocate sometimes. I do not believe that academic discourse can progress without competing ideas. --[[User:TrueGrit|TrueGrit]] 20:30, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

: That is awesome! It's great to see some thinkers around here. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:33, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

== Edit War with Conservative ==

CPWebmaster, I was upholding the decision of the panel. See the discussion on Philip J. Rayment's talk page [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Philip_J._Rayment#question_regarding_pro_evolutionary_books_being_added_to_TOE_article here]. The Panel approved a version of the article ''with'' the free online text of "The Origin of Species", though Conservative removed the link merely eight minutes before the Panel made it's decision (Conservative removed book at 18:21 April 9, decision made 18:29 April 9); clearly too short of a time, as the panel had been deliberating for quite some time. Andy has also made his anti-censorship view very explicit. Other sysops had also supported the inclusion of the book, as it is the single most relevant book on the topic that exists. The pro-inclusion sysops provided their reasons and justifications, though Conservative kept reverting without ''any'' justification, or discussion (except for an attempt to draw the conversation off topic at [[Talk:Theory of evolution]]). Perhaps you should warn [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] to not work against what has been made explicitly clear. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 19:56, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

: Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't. Please do not get into any more revert wars with Conservative or any other user. Thank you. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 19:58, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Theory_of_evolution&diff=prev&oldid=96144 Here] is where the panel says that addition of references and further reading books is acceptable. And please, warn the other party in this edit war as well, as he is equally guilty. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::: I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:06, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::: Forgive me, but it is hard to avoid an edit war when you cite justifications for your edits, ''prove'' that you are undoubtedly correct, and the [[User:Conservative|other user]] provides no justification and runs from answering any kind of question. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:07, 18 April 2007 (EDT) 
::::What other revert wars is [[User:Hojimachong| Hojimachong]] engaged in?[[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]][[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]] 20:14, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::None, at the moment. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:16, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::: You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 20:17, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
::::::: I fully understand that edit wars are bad to engage in, and should be avoided. But I think you are missing my point as well; There was evidence to back up a specific view, posted on the talk page, and told to Conservative even ''before'' he removed the books (He ''asked'' Philip J. Rayment about removing the books. Philip said he shouldn't; Conservative did it anyways). I think Conservative needs to be reprimanded in some way, shape, or form; I don't see him being warned for the edit war. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 20:19, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::::: Once again, Conservative made a change against the panel, consensus, and Andy. When is this ''vandalism'' going to be taken note of? --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 22:02, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

CPWebmaster, I want to highlight two things that you said:
* "''I'm talking about the revert wars in general, not so much this specific case.''"
* "''You're dodging the bullet. Please just don't get into any revert wars. They waste everyone's time.''"
Okay, perhaps Hojimachong has been involved in other edit wars; I haven't checked. And if true, and if that is not true of Conservative, then perhaps you do have a defence for what is otherwise a prima-facie case of favouritism. But you also seem to be "dodging the bullet" yourself. On Wikipedia, ''both'' editors would have been given blocks twice over for this particular incident, and ''both'' editors are "wasting everyone's time". You also said:
* "''Where does the Panel's decision state that the ref's cannot be changed? It doesn't.''"
That's precisely the point. I "changed" (added) some references (books for further reading), and Conservative started the revert war (in the sense that he made the first reversion) by removing them on the grounds that they were against the Panel's decision. You have here acknowledged that they are not against the Panel's decision, indicating that it was Conservative who was in the wrong, yet it is Hojimaching that you are warning.

Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I agree with Conservative's worldview, and disagree with some of Hojimachong's. And it was Conservative that first suggested that I be a sysop. It pains me to have to take a stand against him on this, but I believe that truth and justice  warrants it in this case.

[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:10, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

:Well spoken, Philip. For me, this all fell under the "two wrongs don't make a right" consideration. Those who have been around more than a month know I have publicly disagreed with Sysop Conservative many times. Not on ideological or political grounds, but because of this absolute unwillingness to engage others, or even answer their questions. And I don't agree with blocking people without some explanation, if only to fellow Sysop's. He has gotten much better at responding, however. All of the points above, raised by everyone don't make engaging in a squalid public fight over editing, conducted by Sysop's, right. It is hard to preach to editors not to do something Administrators are constantly doing, eh? No matter if it is reverting each other's edits, or reverting blocks, it is the same principle; "Do as I say, not as I do". I think that is more what the Webmaster's point was, knowing full well the danger of supposition. ;-) --~ [[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 03:10, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

== Problems with my watchlist ==

I appear to be having problems with my watchlist. Occasionally I notice articles that are changed are not appearing on my watchlist. It appears to be articles which have been protected. Protected articles that I put on my watchlist, or that I edit, are okay, but articles that I already have on my watchlist that are then protected don't appear, at least sometimes (until I edit them again). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:18, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

== small favor ==

I permanently blocked someone and it was by mistake. I think I fixed it but I am not sure. Please make sure Bill_M can edit. 00:04, 22 April 2007 (EDT)conservative

: He's not blocked. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 00:06, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Please vote for me ==

Please vote for me here: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Request_for_Bureaucratship [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 19:38, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

== Changing User Name ==

I'm wondering how I can change my User Name. Can it be done? If so, how? Please let me know. --[[User:Jtpaladin|Jtpaladin]] 21:47, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
: It would probably be best to just create a new account. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 23:10, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
::Any bureaucrat can handle a name change for you. [[User:ColinR|ColinR]][[User_talk:ColinR|talk]] 02:09, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== My contributions ==

I think there's something wrong with my contributions, all edits prior to today seem to have vanished [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Aschl%D0%B0fly link]. Would you be able to look into it for me? Thank you and God bless. [[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:17, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
: No there isn't. Look back in the recent changes for the creation of a new 'User:Aschlafly'. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]
:: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Log/newusers Here]. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

So is it possible to ban the fake ASchlafly and the fake Conservative before they do more damage to the site and to the reputations of the real things?--[[User:Epicurius|Steve]] 13:25, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

:Sure, as long as the person doing it know what they are doing and pays attention. Oh................well...........it would normally be possible but after all SYSOP promotion here has little to do with understanding what the heck you are doing. [[User:Tmtoulouse|Tmtoulouse]] 13:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)
:: I don't know. No mods seem to be currently active. --Wikinterpreter'''[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Wikinterpreter talk?]

==thank you==

thank you for fixing my talk page. --[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 10:34, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

: you're welcome [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:31, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

== Edit to wombat ==

Please see the talk page and explain your reversion. Thanks. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 11:16, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

== Image libs ==

Are we using GD or ImageMagick? --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 15:33, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

==Merge==

Thanks for this merge. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dinosaur&curid=6394&diff=155595&oldid=155117]
What other maintenance tasks can we do together? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:04, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

: It seems that there are a '''lot''' of templates that are not being user and/or are worthless. Going through those would be good. Thanks for the help! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:07, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::I deleted 4 unused templates. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:17, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:::Could you also remove them from [[help:templates]] please? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:38, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

::::I was addressing that request to Ed, but thanks anyway. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:26, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Actually, a few of those deleted templates were either in use (although in only one or two pages). Also, a few were designed to be used with Subst:, which means that they aren't "in use" but may still be required. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:43, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

== MediaWiki stuff ==

I have two suggestions:

# You really should install [http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking interwiki links] to Wikipedia, it would make life easier.
# [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExtraNamespaces Extra namespaces], i.e. "Debate:" would also be helpful. Currently, all debate pages reside in the Project namespace, which, to a techie like myself, is physically painful :).

--[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 20:23, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

:What's the point of the interwiki links if we are normally not supposed to link to Wikipedia anyway?
:I agree with the second suggestion.
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:29, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

*Yes, I agree with Philip. Another Sysop on Friday found several pictures linked to article pages here, from WP. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:53, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Kewl. Thanks. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:05, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Once more thing: for a wiki of this description, [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight Oversight] might be quite useful. For instance, if Icew*dge decides to use an edit summary of "F*** F*** F*** F*** F***", it can be hidden, so people won't stumble across it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 17:47, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Oh yes, and you should add a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ImageMagick#Licensing licensing menu] to the upload page. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:20, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Spam Filters... ==

My talk page, somewhere on it is the ice name, and spam filter is not allowing me to save my changes with it on there.....--[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:05, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:Fixed it. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 11:44, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Now, now, you fixed it on my page, but don't the filters need tweaking really? --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 12:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Just put I**W*****. We really don't want them to be able to post that anywhere on the site. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::: Unless that is case-sensitive and excludes spaces, I can easily imagine that having too many false positives. By the way, you beat me to ban the latest incarnation of said vandal by a very few seconds! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:36, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Our two Philip's are like dynamos today! --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 13:45, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

::I used Unicode… --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbohacker]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 16:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

*Something has indeed changed, for I cannot remain logged in as I used to. I didn't change my comp settings, but now being idle for 15 + minutes, I must log in again. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 19:01, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Changing Signature ==

I can't figure out how to change my default signature and decided you would be the most appropriate person to ask.--Favor 19:41, 13 May 2007 (EDT)

== Problem with spam filter ==

It is now impossible to post in a section that contains the signature of a certain vandal who's signature I cannot post because the spam filter wont let me.--[[User:Favor|Favor]] 00:25, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

What I recommend you do it go ahead and remove all instances of that name on said page. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 00:29, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: Yes, replace all instances with I**W*****. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 10:00, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

== Why did you delete the article on "Why South Africa Sucks" ==
Please comment on my talk page. Did you delete it, or did you move it? {{unsigned|John99}}

I hope you won't mind. I created another article of "Why South Africa Sucks". The reason being that there is to much information available on this blog to warrent further expantion on the South Africa article. This website may be used as a source of information on South African Issues. --[[User:John99|John99]] 12:48, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

==Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is incorrect==
CPWebmaster, the Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is not the correct name for the neanderthal. It is Homo neanderthalensis. Neanderthalensis and Sapiens are different species. Please correct.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

: That is incorrect, they are not different species. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:08, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:CPWebmaster, you are wrong. Please provide your proof. According to Taxonomy they are different.
::http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/neand.htm
::http://www.archaeologyinfo.com/homoneaderthalensis.htm
::--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:12, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: Both of those are false, biased sources of information. Read [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n2/worthy-ancestors this] please. Thanks [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:22, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: AIG is unbiased? You are saying that AIG is more valid than the Smithsonian Institution? Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is a contraversial subspecies of the Homo sapiens whereas Homo neanderthalensis is the accepted species for the neanderthal. The correct way of listing taxonomy is genius and then species not genius, species then subspecies. So by your way of resoning this should be listed under Homo sapiens. Anyone one with a little biological taxonomy traning would see this as a farse.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 11:33, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

:: When it comes to origins, AIG is obviously more valid than the Smithsonian. I am aware that Homo neanderthalensis is the "accepted" species, but this is merely hopeful thinking by evolutionists. In reality, Homo neanderthalensis is HUMAN. I placed it under a sub-species because I did not want it to conflict with the human article. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 11:49, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

::If homo neanderthalensis is human as you said above, then why not list it with Homo sapiens? CPWebmaster, I can not understand why you would perceive AIG as more valid than the Smithsonian. There are thousands more scientists working and submitting to the Smithsonian than AIG. This provides a more critical environment for research. AIG struggles to have PhDs write articles within the scope of their discipline. How many times have you seen a physicist write about biology at AIG? The point is that if you plan to use taxonomy to describe an organism then you must follow taxonomy rules to describe the organism. Meaning if you wish to say that Neanderthal was a subspecies of Homo sapiens then you need to list Neanderthal as Homo sapiens. Otherwise you need to place it back with homo neanderthalensis.--[[User:Tims|TimS]] 12:01, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Your source is also overstepping its bounds by claiming that Neanderthals and humans are both able to speak in the same manner. This is a mater still under debate by most physical anthropologists. There are also many skeletal differences between the two species. [[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 12:18, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

South Africa

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John99: HIV and AIDS in South Africa http://www.avert.org/aidssouthafrica.htm

South Africa

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John99: /* Crime in South Africa */ Rape is endemic in South Africa. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1909220.stm

South Africa

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John99: /* Crime in South Africa */ http://www.tlu.co.za/International%20Bulletins/2007/IB070315%20%20Forced%20Sales,%20Expropriations%20and%20Farm%20Attacks%20-%20Two%20Sides%20of%20the%20same%20Coin.htm

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ INFORMAL VERSUS FORMAL MEDIA http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.html

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

South Africa

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John99: /* References */

South Africa

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John99: /* References */ Informal South African Media Response http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/05/taking-bull-out-of-bullard.htm

South Africa

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John99: /* Crime in South Africa */

South Africa

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John99: /* Crime in South Africa */

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ Crime Expo South Africa & The Right Perspective http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/ http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ URL of other critical websites: http://www.crimexposouthafrica.net/ http://www.therightperspectivepodcastblog.blogspot.com/

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism by the informal media in South Africa */ African Crisis http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Home.php

South Africa

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John99: /* Criticism */ Criticism by the informal media in South Africa