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'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness, promotion of the [[homosexual agenda]] and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/news/article/20021--list-of-celebrities-taken-by-drug-use-tragic-and-growing&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, a notoriously reckless and frequently ticketed driver crashed fatally head-on into a car turning left in front of his Porsche (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43, drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne inadvertently promoted the use of heroin in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] songs &amp;quot;Hate to Feel&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Dirt&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;God Smack&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sickman&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Angry Chair&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;I didn't want my fans to think that heroin was cool. But then I've had fans come up to me and give me the thumbs up, telling me they're high. That's exactly what I didn't want to happen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/aliceinchains/articles/story/5934699/to_hell_and_back&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]] was sentenced to death for the murders of Tom and Jackie Hawkes, who were bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
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:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sicko]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Another [[Michael Moore]] film which spread many falsehoods about American healthcare while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of socialized healthcare. Memorably referred to Cuban healthcare as being better than American healthcare.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, the married [[David Letterman]] admitted to having had adulterous sexual relationships with multiple members of his staff; he had previously fathered a child out of wedlock.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Charlton Heston checked into rehab in early 2000 to treat alcoholism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/heston.rehab.reut/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field stated, &amp;quot;Surely this [award] belongs to all the mothers of the world.  May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised. Especially to the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait.  Wait for their children to come home from danger, from harm’s way, and from war. I am proud to be one of those women.  If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/the-emmys-reall.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Madonna engages in a lustful-lesbian kiss onstage to [[Britney Spears]] at the 2003 MTV Music Video Awards. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://top40.about.com/od/britneyspears/ig/Britney-Spears-Photo-Biography/Britney-Spears-Kissing-Madonna.htm Britney Spears and Madonna Kiss, About.com, 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissing a male keyboard player, and fondling several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainment industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness, promotion of the [[homosexual agenda]] and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/news/article/20021--list-of-celebrities-taken-by-drug-use-tragic-and-growing&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, a notoriously reckless and frequently ticketed driver crashed fatally head-on into a car turning left in front of his Porsche (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43, drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]] was sentenced to death for the murders of Tom and Jackie Hawkes, who were bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Sicko]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Another [[Michael Moore]] film which spread many falsehoods about American healthcare while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of socialized healthcare. Memorably referred to Cuban healthcare as being better than American healthcare.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, the married [[David Letterman]] admitted to having had adulterous sexual relationships with multiple members of his staff; he had previously fathered a child out of wedlock.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Charlton Heston checked into rehab in early 2000 to treat alcoholism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/heston.rehab.reut/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field stated, &amp;quot;Surely this [award] belongs to all the mothers of the world.  May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised. Especially to the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait.  Wait for their children to come home from danger, from harm’s way, and from war. I am proud to be one of those women.  If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/the-emmys-reall.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Madonna engages in a lustful-lesbian kiss onstage to [[Britney Spears]] at the 2003 MTV Music Video Awards. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://top40.about.com/od/britneyspears/ig/Britney-Spears-Photo-Biography/Britney-Spears-Kissing-Madonna.htm Britney Spears and Madonna Kiss, About.com, 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissing a male keyboard player, and fondling several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainment industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness, promotion of the [[homosexual agenda]] and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/news/article/20021--list-of-celebrities-taken-by-drug-use-tragic-and-growing&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, a notoriously reckless and frequently ticketed driver crashed fatally head-on into a car turning left in front of his Porsche (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43, drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]] was sentenced to death for the murders of Tom and Jackie Hawkes, who were bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sicko]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Another [[Michael Moore]] film which spread many falsehoods about American healthcare while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of socialized healthcare. Memorably referred to Cuban healthcare as being better than American healthcare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, the married [[David Letterman]] admitted to having had adulterous sexual relationships with multiple members of his staff; he had previously fathered a child out of wedlock.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Charlton Heston checked into rehad in early 2000 to treat alcoholism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/31/heston.rehab.reut/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field stated, &amp;quot;Surely this [award] belongs to all the mothers of the world.  May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised. Especially to the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait.  Wait for their children to come home from danger, from harm’s way, and from war. I am proud to be one of those women.  If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/the-emmys-reall.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Madonna engages in a lustful-lesbian kiss onstage to [[Britney Spears]] at the 2003 MTV Music Video Awards. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://top40.about.com/od/britneyspears/ig/Britney-Spears-Photo-Biography/Britney-Spears-Kissing-Madonna.htm Britney Spears and Madonna Kiss, About.com, 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissing a male keyboard player, and fondling several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainment industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness, promotion of the [[homosexual agenda]] and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/news/article/20021--list-of-celebrities-taken-by-drug-use-tragic-and-growing&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, a notoriously reckless and frequently ticketed driver crashed fatally head-on into a car turning left in front of his Porsche (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43, drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]] was sentenced to death for the murders of Tom and Jackie Hawkes, who were bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sicko]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Another [[Michael Moore]] film which spread many falsehoods about American healthcare while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of socialized healthcare. Memorably referred to Cuban healthcare as being better than American healthcare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, the married [[David Letterman]] admitted to having had adulterous sexual relationships with multiple members of his staff; he had previously fathered a child out of wedlock.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field stated, &amp;quot;Surely this [award] belongs to all the mothers of the world.  May they be seen, may their work be valued and raised. Especially to the mothers who stand with an open heart and wait.  Wait for their children to come home from danger, from harm’s way, and from war. I am proud to be one of those women.  If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2007/09/the-emmys-reall.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Madonna engages in a lustful-lesbian kiss onstage to [[Britney Spears]] at the 2003 MTV Music Video Awards. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://top40.about.com/od/britneyspears/ig/Britney-Spears-Photo-Biography/Britney-Spears-Kissing-Madonna.htm Britney Spears and Madonna Kiss, About.com, 2003]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissing a male keyboard player, and fondling several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainment industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Social Problems]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Possible Inclusions==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So?==&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
Or, as I suspect, is Conservapedia wearing the type of blinders that see any conservative's troubles with drugs or alcohol as a momentary temptation by the liberal side? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm disgusted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Artiefisk|Artiefisk]] 14:34, 12 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about Britney Spears? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not entirely accurate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it's valid for two reasons: it draws attention to the fact that CP doesn't yet have articles on them, and may make someone write one. Also, when an article is eventually written, the links are already there, so nobody has to go back and add them retroactively. If they're already there, you may as well leave them. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hollywood==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do we do? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:On what grounds? o.O [[User:NathanG|Nate]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:NathanG|my opinion matters?]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::My apologies, it appears that you are correct... or at least you were, before the last grammar fix. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 14:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is nothing &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot; about this.  Values and lifestyles can cause harm just as surely as smoking can.  Do we criticize anti-smoking statements as &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot;?  Of course not.  Highlighting the harm caused by [[Hollywood Values]] is not pious either.  In fact, it can be scientifically studied.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ridiculous==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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topless requires that the breasts be exposed since they were not she was not topless --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:49, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with Tom Moore on this one... There has been some mistake, just a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But, [[Hollywood values]] embrassed by all [[Liberals]] would mean they were desensortised to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that there may be a certain level of contradiction here. Although we ''can'' use arrests as a way to suggest hedonistic activity of Hollywood stars, we're mentioning an accusation without proof they were convicted of the actual crime.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it just me, or is this a bit one-sided? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only some people in Hollywood follow Hollywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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One cannot contract AIDS through a flamboyant onstage presence.  I'll leave it to someone else to straighten this one out.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Independence Day==&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another example? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michael Jackson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Dean ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also feel free to sign your posts! It's the box above when you compose, next to the circle with the slash through it. ;-) --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:37, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Cleared up some dead links in the references.  Working on a substantial rewrite on the article, adding subcategories and trying to cover more of the entertainment industry as a whole.  There is definitely room for improvement in this article, hence why I am devoting to much attention to the subject.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 23:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: ''&amp;quot;some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions&amp;quot;''- That statement is not proper. It's not an accident if fully knowing. You can argue that the person thought they could cheat the devil, didn't want to die, but did.  That is like saying they wanted to live but drugs ruined it for them. Drugs were the consequences of their decisions, suicide was the consequences of their actions. I'm for making the page better but I agree with Douglas, you have watered-down the meaning of suicide. Just make sure you add to- while making better, and a little less rewording.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I admit my choice of words there was a bit faulty, but what I'm really trying to say is that we aren't trying to demonize the individuals on this page, we are trying to show that Hollywood itself is the causation of these problems.  Drawing a distinction between those who meant to kill themselves by ingesting too much of a prescription, or illegal drug, and someone who accidentally dies from the same shows the inherent risk in the action and that both carry a heavy cost.  The intent of suicide may not have been there, but the end result is the same in both cases.  And if we can have details that have nothing to do with a persons death , like that Bruce Lee had trace amounts of weed in his system when he died of hypersensitivity to aspirin, then details surrounding the death of these people belong in the article too.  Unless you believe that putting these details in would somehow discredit the argument we are trying to prove.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 14:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; isn't an entity of and by itself. It is comprised of individuals, and like all communities the bigger players, have more influence and dictate the social mores that the others follow.  It isn't arguable that the Hollywood community is anything other than liberal...and that liberal bias influences how they wish to spin drug abuse and infanticide by abortion as well. I have to agree with Jpatt and Douglas that if one chooses to do illegal drugs, or abuse legal ones, they know, unless they are literally mentally incapacitated, there is always a possibility of death. Hollywood can spin it anyway they choose (and does), but even subconsciously, they like that risk...its part of the &amp;quot;high&amp;quot;. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:54, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yes Hollywood is comprised of individuals, as you point out.  But so is the rest of the country.  Could it not be argued that Hollywood is a cross-section of the United States, and that problems in the whole country look larger in Hollywood because of the smaller amount of people and the media coverage concerning said people?  People travel from all across the globe to make it big in Hollywood, can it not be said that the problems of the people in Hollywood started where they were raised, or is it that Hollywood itself is the corrupting influence?  And to say that it isn't arguable that Hollywood isn't anything other that liberal is silly when the article you are defending states &amp;quot;Ronald Reagan, James Stewart, Charlton Heston, Walt Disney and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood&amp;quot;.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 19:41, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There are exceptions to any general rule I have found. However the &amp;quot;artsy&amp;quot; culture has always been Bohemian in nature, and they protect their own.  Yes, it is magnified out of all measure simply because of the value liberal culture places on celebrity. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:56, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Reply to Lorddragyn''': I looked at many of your edits before reverting them and found a common thread:  you would downplay culpability by the Hollywood &amp;quot;star&amp;quot; for something that was due to his culturally bankrupt values.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously reckless driver.  His fatal accident consisted of ramming head-on into a car that was turning left in front of him.  James Dean even received a speeding ticket a few hours earlier, and his Porsche sported the offensive name on the back, &amp;quot;Little Bastard.&amp;quot;  Yet you tried to downplay his fault by saying that officials could not prove he was speeding when he collided with the other car (thereby endangering that driver's life also).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:21, 10 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What I was implying when I wrote that was that just because James Dean wasn't speeding when he died, it doesn't mean that his reckless behavior behind the wheel wasn't dangerous.  When he died the other car veered into his lane, but he was lucky that his years of reckless driving hadn't gotten him killed sooner.  His death among many others are what I would consider &amp;quot;toying with fate&amp;quot; because, like others on this list, he was doing something he knew to be dangerous (and most likely lethal) with complete disregard of the consequences.  Maybe what I wrote could be rewritten to make that thought more clear.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 20:00, 11 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it's valid for two reasons: it draws attention to the fact that CP doesn't yet have articles on them, and may make someone write one. Also, when an article is eventually written, the links are already there, so nobody has to go back and add them retroactively. If they're already there, you may as well leave them. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lenny Bruce/Sharon Tate/Blaming the victim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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And just to make sure you don't go off subject and say that I'm a typical liberal, I'll admit that I '''agree''' with the premise of the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with Tom Moore on this one... There has been some mistake, just a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But, [[Hollywood values]] embrassed by all [[Liberals]] would mean they were desensortised to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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(If you disagree with a critique of liberal values or actions, discuss it on the talk page - do not distort the truth. And in the rare case where a conservative writer appears to make an error, contact him for a clarification FIRST. Keep in mind the purpose of the project whenever you edit an article or comment on it. Debates and declarations of personal values are confined to debate pages and user pages.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==don't know where to put this==&lt;br /&gt;
This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: And it's not just popular opinion that says OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend.  Scientific tests proved it with overwhelming odds.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:44, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Independence Day==&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michael Jackson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is an encyclopedia.  Don't insert rants, or [[gossip]], or claims that lack proper substantiation.  Clear enough?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:14, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Dean ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also feel free to sign your posts! It's the box above when you compose, next to the circle with the slash through it. ;-) --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:37, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Cleared up some dead links in the references.  Working on a substantial rewrite on the article, adding subcategories and trying to cover more of the entertainment industry as a whole.  There is definitely room for improvement in this article, hence why I am devoting to much attention to the subject.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 23:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: ''&amp;quot;some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions&amp;quot;''- That statement is not proper. It's not an accident if fully knowing. You can argue that the person thought they could cheat the devil, didn't want to die, but did.  That is like saying they wanted to live but drugs ruined it for them. Drugs were the consequences of their decisions, suicide was the consequences of their actions. I'm for making the page better but I agree with Douglas, you have watered-down the meaning of suicide. Just make sure you add to- while making better, and a little less rewording.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I admit my choice of words there was a bit faulty, but what I'm really trying to say is that we aren't trying to demonize the individuals on this page, we are trying to show that Hollywood itself is the causation of these problems.  Drawing a distinction between those who meant to kill themselves by ingesting too much of a prescription, or illegal drug, and someone who accidentally dies from the same shows the inherent risk in the action and that both carry a heavy cost.  The intent of suicide may not have been there, but the end result is the same in both cases.  And if we can have details that have nothing to do with a persons death , like that Bruce Lee had trace amounts of weed in his system when he died of hypersensitivity to aspirin, then details surrounding the death of these people belong in the article too.  Unless you believe that putting these details in would somehow discredit the argument we are trying to prove.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 14:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; isn't an entity of and by itself. It is comprised of individuals, and like all communities the bigger players, have more influence and dictate the social mores that the others follow.  It isn't arguable that the Hollywood community is anything other than liberal...and that liberal bias influences how they wish to spin drug abuse and infanticide by abortion as well. I have to agree with Jpatt and Douglas that if one chooses to do illegal drugs, or abuse legal ones, they know, unless they are literally mentally incapacitated, there is always a possibility of death. Hollywood can spin it anyway they choose (and does), but even subconsciously, they like that risk...its part of the &amp;quot;high&amp;quot;. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:54, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yes Hollywood is comprised of individuals, as you point out.  But so is the rest of the country.  Could it not be argued that Hollywood is a cross-section of the United States, and that problems in the whole country look larger in Hollywood because of the smaller amount of people and the media coverage concerning said people?  People travel from all across the globe to make it big in Hollywood, can it not be said that the problems of the people in Hollywood started where they were raised, or is it that Hollywood itself is the corrupting influence?  And to say that it isn't arguable that Hollywood isn't anything other that liberal is silly when the article you are defending states &amp;quot;Ronald Reagan, James Stewart, Charlton Heston, Walt Disney and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood&amp;quot;.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 19:41, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So?==&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it's valid for two reasons: it draws attention to the fact that CP doesn't yet have articles on them, and may make someone write one. Also, when an article is eventually written, the links are already there, so nobody has to go back and add them retroactively. If they're already there, you may as well leave them. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Apologies - I may have inadvertantly removed this while dealing with vandalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:38, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lenny Bruce/Sharon Tate/Blaming the victim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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And just to make sure you don't go off subject and say that I'm a typical liberal, I'll admit that I '''agree''' with the premise of the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with Tom Moore on this one... There has been some mistake, just a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But, [[Hollywood values]] embrassed by all [[Liberals]] would mean they were desensortised to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Freddie Mercury also contracted AIDS through his homosexual lifestyle and flamboyant onstage presence.''  &lt;br /&gt;
One cannot contract AIDS through a flamboyant onstage presence.  I'll leave it to someone else to straighten this one out.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposed new section: &amp;quot;Shunning actors who disagree with Hollywood's values&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How to write an article==&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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(If you disagree with a critique of liberal values or actions, discuss it on the talk page - do not distort the truth. And in the rare case where a conservative writer appears to make an error, contact him for a clarification FIRST. Keep in mind the purpose of the project whenever you edit an article or comment on it. Debates and declarations of personal values are confined to debate pages and user pages.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==don't know where to put this==&lt;br /&gt;
This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: And it's not just popular opinion that says OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend.  Scientific tests proved it with overwhelming odds.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:44, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I hadn't heard that. I guess I din't really pay close enough attention to OJ news. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Independence Day==&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another example? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michael Jackson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is an encyclopedia.  Don't insert rants, or [[gossip]], or claims that lack proper substantiation.  Clear enough?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:14, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Dean ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also feel free to sign your posts! It's the box above when you compose, next to the circle with the slash through it. ;-) --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:37, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Cleared up some dead links in the references.  Working on a substantial rewrite on the article, adding subcategories and trying to cover more of the entertainment industry as a whole.  There is definitely room for improvement in this article, hence why I am devoting to much attention to the subject.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 23:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: ''&amp;quot;some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions&amp;quot;''- That statement is not proper. It's not an accident if fully knowing. You can argue that the person thought they could cheat the devil, didn't want to die, but did.  That is like saying they wanted to live but drugs ruined it for them. Drugs were the consequences of their decisions, suicide was the consequences of their actions. I'm for making the page better but I agree with Douglas, you have watered-down the meaning of suicide. Just make sure you add to- while making better, and a little less rewording.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I admit my choice of words there was a bit faulty, but what I'm really trying to say is that we aren't trying to demonize the individuals on this page, we are trying to show that Hollywood itself is the causation of these problems.  Drawing a distinction between those who meant to kill themselves by ingesting too much of a prescription, or illegal drug, and someone who accidentally dies from the same shows the inherent risk in the action and that both carry a heavy cost.  The intent of suicide may not have been there, but the end result is the same in both cases.  And if we can have details that have nothing to do with a persons death , like that Bruce Lee had trace amounts of weed in his system when he died of hypersensitivity to aspirin, then details surrounding the death of these people belong in the article too.  Unless you believe that putting these details in would somehow discredit the argument we are trying to prove.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 14:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Possible Inclusions==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So?==&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
Or, as I suspect, is Conservapedia wearing the type of blinders that see any conservative's troubles with drugs or alcohol as a momentary temptation by the liberal side? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about Britney Spears? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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topless requires that the breasts be exposed since they were not she was not topless --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:49, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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And just to make sure you don't go off subject and say that I'm a typical liberal, I'll admit that I '''agree''' with the premise of the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with Tom Moore on this one... There has been some mistake, just a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it just me, or is this a bit one-sided? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Freddie Mercury also contracted AIDS through his homosexual lifestyle and flamboyant onstage presence.''  &lt;br /&gt;
One cannot contract AIDS through a flamboyant onstage presence.  I'll leave it to someone else to straighten this one out.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposed new section: &amp;quot;Shunning actors who disagree with Hollywood's values&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: And it's not just popular opinion that says OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend.  Scientific tests proved it with overwhelming odds.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:44, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I hadn't heard that. I guess I din't really pay close enough attention to OJ news. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Independence Day==&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another example? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michael Jackson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is an encyclopedia.  Don't insert rants, or [[gossip]], or claims that lack proper substantiation.  Clear enough?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:14, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Dean ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also feel free to sign your posts! It's the box above when you compose, next to the circle with the slash through it. ;-) --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:37, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Cleared up some dead links in the references.  Working on a substantial rewrite on the article, adding subcategories and trying to cover more of the entertainment industry as a whole.  There is definitely room for improvement in this article, hence why I am devoting to much attention to the subject.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 23:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: ''&amp;quot;some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions&amp;quot;''- That statement is not proper. It's not an accident if fully knowing. You can argue that the person thought they could cheat the devil, didn't want to die, but did.  That is like saying they wanted to live but drugs ruined it for them. Drugs were the consequences of their decisions, suicide was the consequences of their actions. I'm for making the page better but I agree with Douglas, you have watered-down the meaning of suicide. Just make sure you add to- while making better, and a little less rewording.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I admit my choice of words there was a bit faulty, but what I'm really trying to say is that we aren't trying to demonize the individuals on this page, we are trying to show that Hollywood itself is the causation of these problems.  Drawing a distinction between those who meant to kill themselves by ingesting too much of a prescription, or illegal drug, and someone who accidentally dies from the same shows the inherent risk in the action and that both carry a heavy cost.  The intent of suicide may not have been there, but the end result is the same in both cases.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 14:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Solved?==&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a solution to this, the '''average''' age for being diagnosed with breast cancer is 64, but this doesn't mean that people cannot get breast cancer until they are 64.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have named five cases where breast cancer has been contracted at a younger age, out of a pool of possibly tens of thousands of subjects (noting that you have expanded the definition of Hollywood to include relatively minor Australian celebrities and musicians). This is well in check with broader society, sadly many people do suffer from breast cancer at a young age. Unless the proportion of young people in general suffering breast cancer is different to the proportion of young &amp;quot;Hollywoodians&amp;quot; suffering breast cancer then there really isn't a mystery here to solve.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only way that anyone will be able to demonstrate the possibility that Hollywood promotes breast cancer is by using statistics which show that the average age of breast cancer in Hollywood is significantly lower than that of society in general. [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 22:18, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Medline, one of the largest databases relating to medical articles, returned just two articles for a search of &amp;quot;&amp;quot;Breast Neoplasms (exp)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot;. One of these only referenced Hollywood because to establish a timeframe (it was translated from Japanese, and used the term &amp;quot;Hollywood syndrome&amp;quot; in its title) whereas the other referred to the geographic location of a clinic. I think this establishes that there is no medical evidence supporting the claim that Hollywood somehow increases the likelihood of breast cancer. If you have alternative search terms or databases you want me to use post them here and I will. [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 22:46, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Conservapedia is not limited to [[liberal]] medical journals.  We are smart enough, I submit, to observe facts ourselves and let the readers draw conclusions.  We do not simply regurgitate readily available information here.  We tell the truth, even if it is censored elsewhere.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:19, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Medline reports from almost all major medical journals, it does not discriminate based on political ideology. All you have done is listed a few cases and suggested that being famous and connected to Hollywood somehow increases the risk of breast cancer. You have not provided any evidence that the average age of breast cancer amongst stars is any less than the broader average. It is an unfortunate fact that young people do get breast cancer, but there is nothing to suggest that rate of young people in Hollywood being diagnosed with breast cancer is any different to the rate of young people in broader society. Until you refute this point you cannot claim that there is a mystery. [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 23:26, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Mr. Schlafly, as I can see it, you seem to be a fan of false causality. X happened to this person and that person meets Y criteria therefore the event X is related to the criteria Y. If 5 people with brown hair contracts testicular cancer, does that mean that having brown hair predisposes you to testicular cancer? Just because someone meets one criteria and also fits another criteria does not mean they are related. That is exactly why medical studies are done, to establish if there is '''repeated''' and '''explainable''' links between any two things. You have no idea of these individuals medical history. There are no sources whatsoever to back this claim. Individuals can claim anything they want, it is only statistics and studies that can help justify them. 	&lt;br /&gt;
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==A Demonstration==&lt;br /&gt;
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It is suggested that Belinda Emmett being diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 24 shows that Hollywood increases the risk of breast cancer.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are around 20 million people in Australia, it's safe to assume that 10 million of those will be female. Using the statistics on the page 1 in 19,608 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer by the time they're 25, this is approximately 0.0051%. At this rate about 510 Australia women will have been diagnosed with breast cancer by the time they're 25.&lt;br /&gt;
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Belinda Emmett is one person out of 510 who has been diagnosed with Breast cancer, this is a rate of about 0.2%. Now, film and television in Australia employs about 50,000 people [http://www.afact.org.au/factsheets/AFACT_Consumer_Guides_Internet.pdf] (the best figure I could find for now), this is approximately 0.5% of the population. Assuming that camerawomen and writers have also been diagnosed with breast cancer then I see no reason why the rate of women connected with &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; and who have been diagnosed with breast cancer is any lower than that of the broader population.&lt;br /&gt;
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The reason Hollywood seems to have so many young stars being diagnosed with breast cancer is because these cases are very well publicised, but the sad truth is that many young women are diagnosed with breast cancer every year, and that their cases are largely forgotten. There is no mystery here, and there won't be until someone shows that the average age of breast cancer amongst Hollywood stars is any different to the rest of society. [[User:StatsMsn|StatsMsn]] 23:37, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good sir, we don't repeat readily known facts here! This is a crusade, good sir, and we're here to EXPOSE the FACT that HOLLYWOOD causes BREAST cancer IN starlets! [[User:IndianaJ|IndianaJ]] 00:55, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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When are you going to realise that you cannot base statistical conclusions upon a non-random sample?   You are selecting a category of people who are by definition, far, far younger than the normal population (actresses and pop stars being typically in an age range from 18-45).   Therefore, any incidences of breast cancer you find within that population will of course appear to trend younger.   Please, take Statistics 101 before jumping to such ludicrous conclusions - you're simply making a fool of yourself.   [[User:Bongabill|Bongabill]] 14:19, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Bongabill, you're clueless.  The 18-45 population of [[Hollywood]] certainly can be compared with the 18-45 general population as to incidence of disease.  I doubt you've taken half the statistics courses that I have.  You have typical [[liberal style]] in trying to intimidate.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:35, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure it can be compared Andy, but you haven't done that.  If you compare the number of young Hollywood breast cancer victims (of course you might want to define what you mean by that first) to the rest of the population in the same age group, fine.  You haven't done that.  You might also want to clarify where you got your 500 from - clearly an estimate, but based on what?  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 17:47, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The [[Hollywood]] community is a well-understood population that consists of performers and entertainers in movies, television and music.  Any ambiguity about that population is insignificant.  The incidence of breast cancer in the general population by age is known, and an estimate of a population of 500 female [[Hollywood]] types under age 35 or so who would admit to having breast cancer due to performance demands or openness is a reasonable estimate within a factor of 2 or so.&lt;br /&gt;
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: You're free to make suggestions on improving the accuracy.  But the attempts below to censor the inquiry altogether are, of course, absurd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:29, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Mr.Schalfly, actually, I am a professional statistician with both graduate and post-graduate degrees in the subject, and also a 34 year professional career as a statistician working for the official statistics bureau of a major nation.   Now, ''of course'' you can compare the 'Hollywood' 18-45 population to the general 18-45 population, but first you have to define that population.   How are you defining ''your'' population?   Is it that they are living in &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; - in which case it might be interesting to examine geographical factors upon the incidence of disease?   No - as I see you are including Australians who live in the UK, people born in six different countries, and it seems none of the members of your data set are actually ''from'' the geographical region of ''Hollywood'', and in fact many of them do not even live there either.   So how are you defining members of your data set?&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Bongabill, we don't fall for the unproven claims of credentials here.  Wikipedia might be a better home for you.  Your claim is absurd that no conclusions can be drawn from comparing disease incidence among [[Hollywood]] types to the general population.  Tell me, did you work for the tobacco industry also in denying that cigarettes cause cancer?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:13, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Secondly, I note that your article does not compare your data set to the general 18-45 population, but instead compares it to the general population of 'all ages', quoting an ''average'' age of diagnosis of 64 - which is clearly outside your terms of reference.    I'm afraid there's absolutely nothing correct here with any of your reasoning, which not only fails Statistics 101, but fails it in the first semester.   This article is specious nonsense.   [[User:Bongabill|Bongabill]] 14:59, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, I'm glad you're not a professor then.  Or are you going to claim that also???  Your &amp;quot;know nothing&amp;quot; approach and [[liberal denials]] are nonsensical.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:13, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Just to point out, Mr. Schlafly, you fell back on your &amp;quot;record&amp;quot; of statistical courses as evidence to your statistical competency. [[User:AndrasK|AndrasK] 15:27, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually ASchalfly, it was indeed you who first raised the issue of credentials in this thread - your comment &amp;quot;I doubt you've taken half the statistics courses I have&amp;quot; came after Bongabill's first and only comment on Conservapedia, and which never mentioned his or her credentials.  [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 18:52, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All right Andy, I'll make a couple of suggestions.  I suggest clarifying the basis of the estimate that there are 500 Hollywood women under 35 who would admit to having breast cancer.  I don't understand where the number comes from - what was the method or source used to come up with 500?  If that's a good estimate, your comparison is potentially legitimate.  Then, I would suggest you do an actual statistical test to determine whether the numbers are significantly different. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 18:48, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Female rock stars likely to admit to breast cancer (e.g., due to a performance schedule) number on the magnitude of, at most, 50; female movie stars under 35 are perhaps a 100-200, at most; and other female actresses are perhaps another 100-200.  Just look at how many albums and movies are released each year.  Also, note that many stars go out of their way to conceal and deny health problems, understandably so.  If you dispute any of these numbers, then I'd like to hear why.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:58, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not disputing them, I'm asking where they came from.  So you looked up how many albums and movies are typically released in a year and extrapolated from that?  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 19:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Note that a ballpark estimate would have -- and should have -- demonstrated that cigarettes cause lung cancer a half century before people accepted it.  Millions of lives would have been saved by acting on the evidence available rather than demanding unnecessary statistical detail.  Surely you don't defend that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:34, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Andy, my man, a &amp;quot;ballpark estimate&amp;quot; is one thing. Pulling numbers out y'arse is quite another. If this really means something to you, then go and do some ''proper'' research. Lord knows you've got enough time on your hands. Reliable numbers may or may not be forthcoming, but at least you'll have tried and you'll be able to argue from a much stronger position if you succeed. Meanwhile, I'd quietly retreat from this one if I were you.&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder how many of those who were included in the list of breast cancer cases would be included in the list of 500.  If that 500 is based on albums and movies released, it appears that many of those women shouldn't be included.  Shirley Temple is the only movie star there.  Most appear to be television actresses, and I suspect many more fall into that category than movie actresses.  So I suspect that 500 is a pretty big underestimate.  Either way though, if you want to make the case, you should include a real statistical analysis.  For example, in the last sentence, you could say ''There is likely no more than 1000 in the population of Hollywood types under age 35 who would have publicly disclose breast cancer. The list above has 8 cases (and growing). The expected rate is only 1.5 out of 1000 in that age group.  A chi-square test of proportions indicates that the difference between these groups is not statistically significant, X&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; (1 df) = 3.62, p = .109.''  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 21:28, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Mainly because I think the numbers given in the article have no basis in reality.  The 500 is said to be based on the number of movies and albums released each year.  According to [http://dissertations.ub.rug.nl/FILES/faculties/feb/2007/s.a.delre/c5.pdf] there are 473 movies each year - I think it's safe to say that nearly all have multiple women who would be included in this list if they had the misfortune to get breast cancer.  And taking a look at the list, it's clear that the article is also referring to television actresses, in the US and across the world.  So I think 500 is a gross underestimate.  Even if the true population of female &amp;quot;Hollywood types&amp;quot; under 30 was 1000 (and I suspect it's more than that), the difference is not significant.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 23:28, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The difference is significant, even if the 500 estimate is low.  Realize that the estimate of 500 is not for all female singers and actresses, but only those who have performance schedules requiring disclosure of a personal health problem.  A soap opera actress would be an example, of which there are perhaps only 50 in the relevant age group.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Multiple occurrences of a rarely occurring event are statistically significant, and it's incorrect to claim otherwise.  There is nothing special about a baseball pitcher who throws only one no-hitter, but there is something special about one who throws three no-hitters, which is analogous to the data here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:42, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, see, there's a couple of problems with that analysis.  Let's assume for the moment that your guesstimate of 500 actresses/singers at any one time whose schedules would necessitate an illness disclosure is roughly accurate.  Problems: 1)Your examples are not drawn from a single point in time, but from over a period of decades (which would stretch the 500 to thousands).  2)Many of these women, while well-known, were ill at a time in their life when disclosure would not have been necessary (that is, when they were no longer active, and not part of the 500).  3) Many of your examples are deeply obscure, and certainly not part of the 500.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:59, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Murry you are compeletly wrong. You are using frequentist statistics which was created by that godless, evolution believing, eugenics supporting, [[liberal]] Fisher. It is inherently [[deceit|deceitful]]. You should instead use that devinly inspired Bayesian satitical methods. I suggest an uniform distribution aprior for your parameter. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:54, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Except there's just one thing - we know that's not true.   So what's wrong with the reasoning?   Selective sampling, that's what's wrong.   And which is what you're doing in this article.   [[User:Bongabill|Bongabill]] 14:33, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Bongabill, your reasoning is so absurd that it does not merit a response.  Learn how to spell &amp;quot;fallacious&amp;quot; and return only if you can figure that out.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:35, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can you point out logical discrepancies between your logic and his? Refusing to respond does not give you credit, it makes you seem even more wrong. If your argument is correct, then why can you not point out problems in his? And by the way, taunting someone regarding one simple spelling error is puerile. [[User:AndrasK|AndrasK]] 14:42, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Well, duh, the incidence of homosexuality among evangelical preachers is 3 divided by thousands.  Should I do the arithmetic for you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:14, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Andy to try and translate Bongabill's reasoning into simpler terms: '''Selection bias/selective sampling is where the sample you choose for your study is rigged to give an inaccurate result'''. For example, let us suppose that Planned Parenthood did a study into teens and promiscuity and ecluded teens with STDs and tried to use that study to show teens were having &amp;quot;safe sex&amp;quot;. Obviously this would be false since the sample was not ''representative'' of the teenage population. '''Likewise your sample (the list) is inaccurate since it only includes &amp;quot;hollywood&amp;quot; women who ever got breast cancer'''. Also to ignore Bongabill's point and to point out his spelling mistakes smacks of a childish ''ad homniem'' attack, to repeat AndrasK.[[User:Luder|Luder]] 16:05, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is utter nonsense. The reasoning is absurd. It is just laughable. So you can name twenty well-known women who have had breast cancer. I can name twenty women I know who have had breast cancer. Does this mean women of my acquaintance are particularly susceptible? No, it's just a meaningless series of cases, anecdotal evidence of nothing whatsoever. This article is the same. Conservapedia really is a parody of itself! [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 17:20, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, your objections are incoherent.  The incidence of breast cancer in the [[Hollywood]] culture can and should be compared to its incidence in the overall population.  I realize that [[deliberate ignorance]] is a trademark [[liberal style]], but you're in the wrong place if you think you're going to censor attempts to compare those rates.  It can and should be done.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:19, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::''The incidence of breast cancer in the [[Hollywood]] culture can and should be compared to its incidence in the overall population.'' So where is this done? It is simple (the number of Hollywood types that have breast cancer)/(the number of hollywood types) vs. (the number of the overall population that have breast cancer)/(the number of the overall population). You have failed to provide even the simple mean, neverless the variance in order to conduct a hypothesis test. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 18:38, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::DanielB, you're correct, but that's not all - you would also need to conduct a Chi-Squared Test on the result to see whether or not the variance in the data actually had any statistical significance.   Different values are not necessarily statistically significant.   There is no valid or relevant statistical analysis in this article, none whatsoever.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 18:44, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: When the rates are vastly different, as in the case of lung cancer and cigarettes, conclusions can and should be drawn immediately based on the vast differences in the rates.  Of course further investigation is welcome, but unlikely to alter the obvious conclusion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:58, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Vastlty different rates could be the result of the variance of your sample. Your sample size might be too small to draw conclusions or as StatsFan said it might not be significant. Andy you should research statistical hypothesis testing of Student and Fisher instead of being [[deliberate ignorance|deliberalty ignorant]] of them. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:03, 4 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering what you're postulating is the cause of this apparent epidemic of breast cancer amongst the women of the entertainment industry.  A paragraph or two regarding possible causation might help to round out the article.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 09:04, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on [[Breast_cancer#Risk_factors|this]], perhaps [[Hollywood values]] encompass poor eating habits and abortions as well. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 13:18, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Those who don't have an open mind about a glaring 5-10x increase in breast cancer incidence in the [[Hollywood]] community are not likely to have an open mind about causation.  The cancer deniers could make a bundle working for the tobacco industry, however.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:31, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: From a factor of 2 to 5 to  10 times increase. These numbers are incredible and would be very impressive if you had any data what so ever to back this up. You have done no statistical analysis all you have done is make up &amp;quot;ballpark&amp;quot; numbers which suit your hypothesis. Get some data, analyse it and submit it to a medical journal if this as rock solid as you say. Otherwise there is no &amp;quot;mystery cause of Hollywood breast cancer&amp;quot; as you have failed to establish it is any higher than you might expect in the general population.  [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 02:01, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So was I... on the right track then? I'd like to think I was being open-minded about causation by considering possible factors, but perhaps I've missed it anyway. :( [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:01, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Geez, Andy, you're not going soft on us, are you?  I don't think you've ever censored yourself before in deference to the closed-minded.  Would you mind if I worked up a paragraph on causation, or would you rather just skip it?  (I don't want to step on your toes) --[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:18, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: RossC, I can't tell if you're serious or not.  If you're serious, then please try to improve the entry.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:00, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I am indeed serious (but don't fret--I get that a lot).  I'll whip up a paragraph on possible causation when I have a bit more time (tomorrow, hopefully).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 13:13, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: You probably &amp;quot;get that a lot&amp;quot; because most of your edits, like your recent one on the Main Page, are not to be taken seriously.  Try some substantive edits.  You'll benefit yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:27, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This does seem like a story that's not being covered in the MSM, and I think you've uncovered a real 'sleeper' news story with this original research.   Do you have a press agent who can help you publicize it - can you get this into the news 'wires'?   I'm sure various Hollywood press organs would be VERY interested in this story - why don't you try and get this to the LA Times, or Variety, or the Hollywood Reporter?   This is Front Page material!   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 14:07, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Please tell them for us, RobCross.  As you can see, the [[liberals]] are not happy about this, which means the publications you cite will not publish it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:00, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, maybe you should submit it to ''JPANDS''.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 11:00, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, its not that 'liberals are unhappy with this' hence it wont get published any where. Its that if you tried to publish this you'd get laughed at because your methodology is so poor. If the was a causation somewhere do you really think you'd be the first person to spot it?&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ah, there's that [[liberal]] over-reliance on mockery, point 25 of [[liberal style]].  You follow your style book well, AdenJ.  Fortunately, not everyone is afraid of being &amp;quot;laughed at,&amp;quot; particularly when the mockery is done to conceal causation of a deadly disease.  It's not very funny when you realize what you're trying to conceal.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:56, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahhhhh, again Aschlafly you dont know anything at all about me so I wouldn't throw around the liberal rubbish. Not that I have to prove anything to you however I will advise that in my countrys elections I vote for the right. Anyways my point is that this 'article' is not all convincing to anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy, if you wouldn't mind... would you like to pose a possible hypothesis as to what causes this apparent increased rate of breast cancer in Hollywood? What do you think is the explanation to this mystery? I've taken a guess already, although I don't know if I'm on the right track. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 23:17, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Mayo clinic suggests starting breast self exams at age 20.[http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/breast-self-exam/WO00026] I am curious if the women here would speak up about the age they started doing breast self exams and the age range that their doctors have informed them that breast cancer can develop along with the risk factors.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The rates of breast cancer by age in the general population are well-known, and the rates in [[Hollywood]] are 5-10x times higher.  You don't work for tobacco companies, do you?  We don't need to deny the obvious and await 30 more years of [[censorship]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:04, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Could you point to any study or news article akin to [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/05/30/BA70131.DTL]?  Have you ruled out other known risk factors?  Where is the data to support this?  I would be interested to see the data (rather than an list of 20 singers, actresses, and notables that at some time resided in Los Angeles) that supports the assertion. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 16:11, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't think that Mr Schlafly has to eliminate other risk factors. The claim is only that breast cancer is more prevalent amongst young 'Hollywood types' than others, not that the state of being a 'Hollywood type' causes breast cancer. He doesn't even claim that this this difference is statistically significant. To establish his claim all he has to do is come up with clear definitions of 'Hollywood type' and 'young', determine the size of this group (presumably fewer than the 546,969[http://www.imdb.com/database_statistics] actresses in the imdb database), take a representative sample thereof, determine the rate of early breast cancer within that group and compare it to the general population. --[[User:Jalapeno|Jalapeno]] 17:24, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: If anyone would like to work from some data - [http://statecancerprofiles.cancer.gov/cgi-bin/quickprofiles/profile.pl?06&amp;amp;055#incidence] has a table for breast cancer deaths by county in California.  Orange county slightly above the mean in California for incidence, but is certainly not at the top of the list.  I have yet to see any data suggesting the National Cancer Institutes's data is incorrect. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 17:28, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The above [[liberal denial]]s are almost as interesting as the entry itself.  Observe how no one objected to &amp;quot;Rutm&amp;quot;s observation that breast cancer deaths are higher in Orange County, yet every [[liberal]] here objected to the possibility that breast cancer rates are higher among [[Hollywood]] types.  Ever here the expression &amp;quot;he protests too much&amp;quot;?  It applies with full force here.  There is nothing logical to the protests above, which merely underscores how important it is to publicize this information.  The more it is irrationally denied, the more persuasive it becomes.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:49, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy: (a) Hollywood isn't in Orange County.  LA County is below the state average, according to Rutm's link.  Even if it were higher, that says nothing about the rate in Hollywood, or among &amp;quot;Hollywood types&amp;quot;.  (b) Some of the comments above may be a bit strident.  However, they raise challenges that haven't been answered.  If you want to make this case, it would be better to show your methods and to actually do the math.  The current approach is not convincing to those who understand statistics.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 21:47, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Andy the protest above are not about your conclusions they are about your compelete lack of data. What you are lacking is data. Rutm's observations are valid because they are based on data, something you lack. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:08, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Murray and DanielB miss the point.  I don't think we've seen such emotional denials of a health problem since the tobacco executives denied their products cause cancer, and they kept insisting on more and more and more data.  The odds of finding three women victimized by breast cancer in their 20s is astronomically small, and requires a very large population sample.  Three examples from the small community of [[Hollywood]], along with many other striking examples of young breast cancer victims, suggests a problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: However, judging by the emotional denials, it's clear your minds are not open about this.  You're not investigating further yourself; instead, the deniers are resorting to put-downs (e.g., &amp;quot;not convincing to those who understand statistics&amp;quot;).  As is said, &amp;quot;you protest too much.&amp;quot;--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:15, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Is it a small community? Do you have the exact number of people in this community or do you just have this strange 100-200 numbers from nowhere? You are making numbers up on gut instinct and calling it a sample. You would not get an arguement if you even had properly collected statistics. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::: As for the tabbaco companies thay argued that correlation dose not equal causation. Something you yourself argued on many occasion, because it is true. Life expectancy goes up with the rate of TV ownership in a country, would you advocate giving third world nations TVs to increase there lifespan? [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 22:33, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Demanding scientific evidence and accurate statistics is not protesting too much, it is common sense. [[User:AndrasK|AndrasK]] 22:22, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The put-downs are on both sides, Andy (&amp;quot;emotional denial&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;your minds are not open&amp;quot;).  How about a compromise - if you will explain how you derived your sample size, a productive discussion can take place about whether or not this indicates an increased risk of breast cancer.  Also, did you note above that the breast cancer rate in the county that Hollywood is in is actually lower than the state average? [[User:Murray|Murray]] 22:42, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Let's see if any of the deniers here will admit that, yes, it is quite possible that breast cancer incidence is higher in the [[Hollywood]] community than the general population.  It's irrational if that admission is not forthcoming.  (By the way, the physical county in which the town of Hollywood is located is obviously irrelevant because the issue is the lifestyle.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:54, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I disagree that your comments are not put-downs in the same sense, but we can disagree there.  I apologize for the comment.  I pointed out that Hollywood is not in Orange County because your comment above used the rate in Orange County to support your argument.  Sure, I will happily admit that it is ''possible'' that the breast cancer rate in the Hollywood district of Los Angeles is higher than in the general population.  It would be a powerful statement if it could be shown, given that the rate in all of LA County is lower than the rest of the state.  However, I am not convinced by the arguments currently put forth here.  As I mentioned above, it would be helpful to explain your methods, particularly the method for determining the size of the sample.  It would also be useful to define &amp;quot;Hollywood types&amp;quot;, because it appears that many of those in the list, including 1 in the under 30 section, did not live in Hollywood.  Research in any field is heavily dependent on explanations of how variables were defined and measured, and on descriptions of how the sample was derived and who it was composed of.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 23:15, 6 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I also happily admit that &amp;quot;it is quite possible that breast cancer incidence is higher in the Hollywood community than the general population&amp;quot;, and I'd be very happy to see Aschlafly's hypothesis proven, or disproven, or indeed to see any meaningful data one way or the other. My objection to this sort of pseudo-science is not emotional, and does not represent liberal or any other sort of denial. It's simply that the &amp;quot;conclusion&amp;quot; does not arise from any data. It's a misuse of epidemiological and statistical methods, an appeal to &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; merely to support a prejudice. For a start, you cannot make any comment on prevalence without first defining the population you are using as the denominator. I suggest that should be the first step. If you then ask a suitable question, and apply suitable methods to answer that question, that would be a couple more steps in the right direction. And if you can find anything that suports the contention that breast cancer is more prevalent among &amp;quot;Hollywood types&amp;quot; I'm sure even the &amp;quot;liberal medical journals&amp;quot; would be very interested in the study. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 01:38, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr.Schlafly, we will ''happily'' admit that breast cancer ''might'' be higher in 'Hollywood' - if you can show that is the case, it is certainly really interesting, and some decent , substantiated research with figures you can stand over would make for a really major news story - and your work would be celebrated.   '&amp;quot;Women working in the entertainment industry develop breast cancer at a much higher rate than normal'&amp;quot; is indeed headline news.   We can help you to make a rock-solid case.   Here's how to make your case watertight:&lt;br /&gt;
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1.   Define the population.   It seems you're not really intending ''Hollywood'' to be a geographical term here, instead I believe you wish it to refer to 'women between 18-45 working in the entertainment business' - regardless of physical location.   Nothing wrong with this so far, that's a perfectly reasonable population to analyse.   Please correct my definition if you you think I'm paraphrasing you incorrectly.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2.   Determine the size of that population.   This is where it starts to get tricky.   A global figure for young women between the ages of 18-45 could be estimated easily enough, but the number of people involved in the entertainment business may be harder to determine.   Do you wish your research to include, for example, hairdressers, make-up artists, production designers and art directors, as they would all work with the actors and singers and presumably work in a similar 'moral milleu'.   One problem here is that these women would typically work in the presence of chemicals, some of which may or may not be carcinogenic, which would need to be factored into the equations.   Another issue is - where does one include women from?   Are young Chinese actresses as likely to succumb to the perceived 'moral milleu' of the film business of Hong Kong (not known for its strict moral code either).    Might they be similarly affected?   What about Indian girls in Bollywood?   I notice that you are including Australians and UK residents, but what about French, German, Italians, etc?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
3.   Assuming you can eventually determine the total size of the population, then determine the rates of breast cancer in that total population.   This will be difficult, lengthy research, but it should be possible.   It would likely take many years of research though, as you will require data from health monitoring organizations around the globe.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
4.   Now factor in family medical histories, ethnic predispositions, working conditions, lifetime exposure to carcinogens, birth patterns, etc - and filter your data for these.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
5.   Compare the breast cancer rates of your study to the breast cancer rates of the global population in general.   Again, this shouldn't be too hard.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
6.   Test any differences in your discovered cancer rates for statistical significance.   Where you discover a trend, dig deeper into that data to ensure you are correct.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
7.   Publish, and celebrate good research!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Your hypothesis is interesting, but as yet unproven.   But if we can be of any assistance, let us know.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 11:58, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, Murray, the popular term &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; refers to an ''industry'', not a place.  Yes, I know, there is a small town called &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot;, but that is not what anyone means when they speak of the culture, lifestyle, values and industry of &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot;, as we are here.  I'm astonished, frankly, that you take such a narrow, literal meaning of the word.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, I'm gratified to have wrestled out an admission for all here that, yes, Hollywood types may have higher and younger incidence of breast cancer than the general population.  So why all the fuss?  Read the comments above and anyone objective would see a determination to censor a discussion and investigation of something that all now admit is quite possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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Third, looking at the data from a small population of successful, performing female pop singers, who number no more than 100, the rate of young breast cancer is astounding and many times, even orders of magnitude, higher than the rate in the general population.  It's unmistakable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fourth, there are medical reasons why one would expect, without seeing any data, that Hollywood actresses would have higher rates of breast cancer.  An astute, objective observer would expect it without seeing a single patient or reviewing data about a single case.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:08, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy, I interpreted your reference to the &amp;quot;small community&amp;quot; as referring to the town itself.  Apparently I misinterpreted.  Nobody is attempting to censor any discussion.  I am in fact trying to have a discussion.  I will ask again, would you please explain the methods that you used to derive these numbers, particularly the sample sizes but also the number of cancer diagnoses?  If you are correct, there is nothing to lose, and you can only gain from being transparent.  I have my doubts as to whether the population is truly as small as you say.  However, if you can show that it is, then your hypothesis is correct.  This is a matter of statistics, not of ideology.  An intro stats text will go into detail about why it is important to be clear and detailed about methodology, and that is what is missing here.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Out of curiosity, what are those medical reasons?  Regardless of what one would expect, one needs to show that the data back up the expectation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Finally, the &amp;quot;fuss&amp;quot; is not about the possibility.  It is about making a claim and showing data that are not clear.  It's possible that any community has a higher rate of breast cancer.  Ashkenazi Jewish women, for example, are at greater risk for BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations that are associated with breast cancer.  But we know that because clear, detailed data have been published. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 14:19, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::*First, yes, I understand you are referring to an industry and not a geographic location.   There's nothing inherently wrong about you attempting to do so.   '''Except''' that if you are defining it so, you need to define the 'what', 'how' and 'where' of that industry.   Geographical locations make research easy, as essentially you can simply start by analysing data within US zip codes.   But defining members of an industry is hard, particularly since the industry is global, and contains many people in many roles.   Sadly, the UN, WHO, or any other organization doesn't break out its health, age, income, etc statistics into 'pop singers' and 'actresses', so we must instead do the work ourselves.   So - how do you intend to define your population?&lt;br /&gt;
::*Secondly, it is one thing to admit that a possibility exists.   But is entirely another to admit that that possibility is indeed the case.   Would you be prepared to admit that web workers like yourself are more prone to testicular cancer?   If I can find thirty people who work on the web and have testicular cancer, will you believe me?   It may be so, and of course it's possible, but IS it so?   Only proper research can tell.   But if I claim it, you have every right to disagree with me.&lt;br /&gt;
::*Thirdly, here is where I must begin to disagree with you, and for very simply reasons.  No, it is NOT possible to make assumptions based upon a non-random data set comprising members you have selected who have shown the condition.   The population sample you provide is statistically biased, as it is non-random, and therefore does not properly represent the total population - all actresses and pop stars, including those who ''both do '''and do not''''' have breast cancer.   You have selected it to only include actresses and pop singers with breast cancer.   This sample does not include the very many pop singers and actresses who did ''not'' develop breast cancer.   This common mistake has a name in statistical analysis, and is referred to as '[[Selection Bias]]'.   Using the same method, I could equally list twenty CEO's of technology companies who are bald and claim that being a CEO causes baldness.   But it would not make it true.    I refer you to the famous 'joke' statistic that the rise and fall of the population of penguins in the Arctic is extremely tightly correlated with the UK Conservative party holding Government office (or Arts funding - the stories vary).   These examples and others are used to show that [[Correlation]] '''never''' automatically implies [[Causation]].   As a result of your selection bias, it is false to say that your conclusion &amp;quot;is unmistakeable&amp;quot; - though it doesn't for a second mean we shouldn't investigate your claim.  &lt;br /&gt;
::*Finally, what are those medical reasons?   What is your proposed theory of causation?'   Why would an acute observer expect it?   If you can be a little more clear, it would help.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your case remains completely unproven speculation, but is nevertheless interesting.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 14:31, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If I understand your theory correctly, the maths for your theory would work as follows (please correct me if I am wrong):&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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First, evaluate Global Breast Cancer Incidence in the [[Control Population]], i.e. the 'world at large':&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that since our hypothesis is that 'Hollywood' or 'lifestyle values' are what we are testing for (since we assume you don't intend to prove that there are, for example, more carcinogens in movie trailers than elsewhere), it would be important to exclude from 'B' those breast cancers caused by hereditary, environmental factors and other non-lifestyle factors.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Next, evaluate 'Hollywood' Breast Cancer Incidence:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
W=Global population of Actresses and Pop Singers aged 18-45&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If Z &amp;gt; Y, and passes the Chi Square Test, you're definitely onto something, and quite likely a large amount of funding would immediately be available for further research.   But with A, B, W and X as yet undefined, as here, we don't have proof yet of the trend.  But at least we have defined the numbers we are looking for, and we can continue to study your theory.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 17:57, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your symbols add nothing here, and your conclusion that &amp;quot;quite likely a large amount of funding would immediately be available for further research&amp;quot; is absurd.  The same hysterically [[liberal]] reaction posted on this talk page by others above would great any application for funding of this hypothesis.  Such application would find the trashcan before a closed-minded recipient looked beyond its first page.&lt;br /&gt;
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: That is all the more amusing when one realizes that there is a fundamental reason why [[Hollywood]] types must have higher breast cancer incidence than the general public.  Get past the symbols and look at this with an open mind, and you'll see it too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If you disagree with the methodology described above, what mathematical methodology do you instead propose?   And what is this &amp;quot;fundamental reason&amp;quot; you refer to?   I'm just curious as to how to prove this hypothesis.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 19:54, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't object to the methodology, but I don't think it adds anything meaningful to the issue.  If I asked whether a pitcher of unknown name who has thrown at least three no-hitters should likely be in the Hall of Fame, your methodology is not going help answer the statistical question.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:00, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: The methodology allows other people to reproduce it and not require having an open mind or a statement from an authority.  In making the claim &amp;quot;Hollywood types have higher breast cancer incidence than the general public&amp;quot; you are making a statement that can be tested.  Thus, people want to know how you came to that conclusion and how to test it for themselves so they can see if it is true or not. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 20:03, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::OK, great - we're on the same path then!   I'm delighted we can see eye-to-eye on something at last.   As to your analogy, it is interesting, but kind of irrelevant to this discussion.   So, if you agree with the math, then let's get to work!&lt;br /&gt;
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::::We know that C = approx. 1 in 93, from the NCI figures.   But those numbers refer to all women below 45.   The rate for women between 18-45 would be higher, we could make a reasonable guess at, say, 1 in 70 (since the rate for women below 50 is 1 in 50).   And you suggest a rate that is an order of magnitude higher than normal, correct?   That would be, say, 1 in 7.   Now, we need to establish the value of both W and X, the total population of women 18-45 who are in the entertainment business, and those within that population who have been diagnosed with breast cancer.   How do we obtain those numbers?   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 20:08, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Do note that this is the number of women in the entertainment business at some point in their lives (Shirley Temple was retired from the industry for 20 years when she was diagnosed) over the past 80 years (Shirley Temple was born in 1928).  This would include singers (country? bluegrass? pop? rock? musicals? vaudeville?), actresses (stage? TV? movies?).  Also be sure to include people from around the world in this - Australian soap opera star, Puerto Rican actress, Norwegian actress.  It would help to know what the hypothesis being tested is beyond the vague &amp;quot;people in entertainment.&amp;quot; --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 20:28, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, I have 2 questions for you.  First, will you share your methods for determining the size of the sample and the number of cases?  Second, what is your hypothesis as to causality?  Thanks.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 20:35, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''REPLY TO THE ABOVE''':  We have the data that we have.  We don't have a double-blind controlled study of millions of subjects.  We never will.  Smokers went 100 years without the kind of study the naysayers demand here.  Does that mean no one could conclude that smoking causes lung cancer?  Of course not.  Watch your relatives who smoke drop dead and then don't ignore it.  Ditto here for breast cancer and [[Hollywood]].  Tobacco companies to this day claim the studies are inclusive and more studies are needed.  If determined enough, one can often claim that.  The more interesting -- and more important -- challenge is to draw the conclusions that can be drawn from the data that are available.  Look at the very small population of pop female singers and breast cancer incidence, open your minds, and don't deny something that has deadly consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:45, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I take it you are refusing to share your methods, though it would be nice if you would just say that.  ''We have the data that we have.''  True enough, but you're the only one who knows what it looks like.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 21:16, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr.Schalfly, you keep suggesting that people are somehow disagreeing about the deadly risks of tobacco, but no-one is - they are incontestable, and the CEO's of tobacco companies, and their lawyers, just look utterly foolish as they make their arguments that they are not deadly.   But this thesis of yours, to be similarly incontestable, needs to be have solid reasoning behind it.   I doubt you'd disagree with that?   For example, if you are suggesting that approximately 1 in 7 is the risk factor for women between 18-45 in the 'Hollywood' industry, and you have listed 20 individuals, are you suggesting that the total population of 'Hollywood' types is really just 140 women?   I'm simply trying to get to the bottom of the maths.    [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 20:55, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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One other note - the point you make about &amp;quot;watch your smoker relatives drop dead&amp;quot; is an excellent example of selective sampling.   I had two uncle's who smoked until they died in their nineties, neither of smoking-related illnesses.   It doesn't prove for a moment though that smoking does not kill - it simply shows the effects of selective bias.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 20:59, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: StatsFan, of course counterexamples (your uncles) do not disprove causation.  But examples often do indicate causation when it is a rarely expected phenomenon.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Again, I ask you: is it likely that an unnamed pitcher who threw three no-hitters had an overall career worthy of the Hall of Fame?  That is a statistical question that you should be able to answer, but your incessant demand for more data is not going to help you solve it.  There is no further specific data to be disclosed in that question, nor is additional data necessary to answer it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:19, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am indeed confused by your metaphor.   For me to know the answer to that I would need to know if it was common for a pitcher to throw three no-hitters, and if many Hall f Famers had thrown three no-hitters?    If I'm correct (and I apologize if I am confused by your analogy), you are suggesting that since the data you present is 'obvious', then young Hollywood women do indeed contract breast cancer at higher rates, yes?   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 21:24, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: StatsFan, the only info you need is the obvious one that no more than a few no-hitters occur each baseball season.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::: More generally, note that if you confine yourself to well-funded studies, then you limit yourself to what the funders of those studies want for their money.  I'm interested in going outside of the narrow sphere of funded studies and looking at real-world data to draw important conclusions that no one is willing to fund and advertise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:48, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then let's look at the data.  Refusal to allow your conclusions to be examined (which is the effect of hiding your methods) suggests something to hide.  In addition to knowing the frequency of no hitters, it would be important to know the number of games pitched.  That's the piece that we're missing here.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 23:04, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But ''how many'' is 'a few' no-hitters?   More than three, less than three?   The answer affects whether they get into the Hall of Fame or not!    As for going straight to real-world data, that's totally fine with me - I encourage you to go beyond the regular data, and I'll help.   But wherever we get the data from, we STILL need to know two numbers:&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Am I correct?   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 22:11, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: This obviously does require orignal research as no one has so far put up a study that is already done. If you are as you say &amp;quot;interested in going outside of the narrow sphere of funded studies and looking at real-world data to draw important conclusions&amp;quot; then that is what need to do, but this is the problem. You have a list of some names, what you don't have is&lt;br /&gt;
:::::# A working definition of 'Hollywood types'&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::# The number of women in the age range you are interested in your definition of Hollywood type who have had breast cancer.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If you had these three things then you would be able to do the test discribed above and be able to draw importatnt conclusions. All you have now is your list, some rather arbitrary and vague numbers, which to be honest, you just made-up based on what you think is right and a hypothesis which is testable which you have not done. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 23:55, 7 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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One issue that I don't see addressed explicitly enough above (though I may have missed it, in which case apologies) is that of bias. I'll pick out just two sources of bias that (as far as I can see) completly undermine the article:&lt;br /&gt;
# What is the source of information on breast cancer cases among &amp;quot;Hollywood types&amp;quot;? It comes from the media, and is therefore heavily influenced by the Hollywood publicity machine and the priorities of the newspapers, TV channels, etc. The control group (the rest of the world, other female residents of California, whatever) is not subject to the same influences. Nobody reports a story about &amp;quot;32-year-old housewife dies of breast cancer&amp;quot;. The only way to do this comparison is to ignore all information that comes from the media, and use an equivalent data source - which I guess means official epidemiological data - for both Hollywood and control groups.&lt;br /&gt;
# The selection of cases in the &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; group is subject to serious ''selection bias'', because a woman of roughly the right age and roughly the right profession is assigned to the group after (and perhaps, one suspects, ''because of'') the diagnosis. You must ''first'' define the population (the denominator) and ''then'' look to see how many of those who are in that population have the condition (the numerator).&lt;br /&gt;
I'd be very interested to see (a) the hypothetical causal link between a high incidence of breast cancer and &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; and (b) some proper data, properly gathered and analysed. Insistence that &amp;quot;it's obvious&amp;quot;, and labeling those who ask for evidence as &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot;, is no substitute for a solid hypothesis, hard data, and a proper analysis. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Actually HumblePi is on to another problem that has been overlooked. You should start by defining 'Hollywood Types' before you collect your data not afterwards. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 21:35, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, DanielB, that's not quite true - Mr.Schlafly has agreed that the Control Population is defined as &amp;quot;Global Women 18-45&amp;quot;, and the study population is &amp;quot;Global Women 18-45 who are Performers in the Entertainment Business and have been diagnosed with breast cancer&amp;quot;, but he has not yet provided figures for the former population - either we are waiting for him to provide these figures, or we are expected to calculate them, I'm not sure.   He has however, provided us with the second population, a total of 20 women.   However, I believe he needs to be a little more precise, as we need to more clearly define ''when'' these women were diagnosed, how far back in time we must do this study, how long they must have been in the business for, and a few other conditions.   We also need a little more information from his as to his theory of causation - I think the suggestion is that somehow 'lifestyle' are involved, in which case we'll need to filter the Control Population for these lifestyle traits - and it's hard to do so without the details of what it is about the lifestyle we are to investigate.   Mr.Schlafly?   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 22:40, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Folks, the comments above are long on talk and insults and short on insights.  If none of the above naysayers are even willing to figure out why [[Hollywood]] types are expected to have higher incidence of breast cancer without even having to look at any data, then I'm wasting my time on this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to the request for a population, by the way, simply take the roughly 100 or so female pop singers (which I think I suggested before).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:13, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's not legitimate to take those 100 without knowing how the number was determined.  Why the reluctance to clarify?  And the cause is completely orthogonal to the question of whether the rate is elevated. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 23:48, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I’m sorry, Aschlafly, but I really have no idea what you mean. What is obvious? Why do you expect Hollywood types to have a higher incidence of breast cancer? But in any case (as Murray says), the hypothetical causal link is completely irrelevant to the study methods. And you have presented no data that provide any evidence whatsoever whether the incidence in Hollywood is higher, lower, or the same as that in the global population. Various people have pointed out flaws in the methodology. If you are not prepared to accept the help that is being offered, that's a pity. The ''Trustworthy Encyclopedia'' really should use trustworthy methods in its analysis. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 05:56, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems to me, (and forgive me if I'm wrong), but ''besides'' all of these young(ish) women being in show business (Hollywood-types) '''and''' being victims of breast cancer, thay all (must have) put their careers before the thought and &amp;quot;action&amp;quot; of having a family. It is a well known factor in risk assessment for BC that delaying childbirth or having an abortion has the likely but (of course) unsought side-effect of breast cancer. The woman so situated usually has the choice to advance her career '''or''' start her family but (often) the one comes at the expense of the other. [[User:MargeryCampbell|MargeryCampbell]] 12:45, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Exactly right.  God bless you for stating what should have been obvious to everyone else on this page.  All who commented above on this page, please take note of what Margery Campbell (whom I do not know, but am honored to learn from) has just said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:07, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, if what Margery said is what you actually meant then A) Why didnt you just state this a long time ago and avoid wasting your time and B) you just stated you learnt something from her which looks to me like you had no idea in the first place. Seems someone is straining to do some explaining.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But that simply ''doesn't make sense''. Of the first five in the list, one is the '''daughter''' of an actress, and one had two children in her early 20s. Not that this is even relevant - every time someone points out a flaw in your logic, you move the goalposts.[[User:PashaSuez|PashaSuez]] 15:19, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Merely having a relative who suffered from [[breast cancer]] does not explain a diagnosis at the young age of 31.  As you can see from our entry on [[breast cancer]], one relative having had the disease is not dispositive.  Something like 90% of breast cancer cases are not explained by family history.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, but then what is the theory here?   Because since most of these women did indeed have children, I can't see what the connections are to the theory?      [[User:GaryK|GaryK]] 18:34, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Reread what Margery Campbell said.  It's not difficult to understand, and no subsequent comments have contradicted it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If it's that airtight, I would think it would be time to publish it somewhere other than here.  Where are you going to send it?  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 20:45, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You know it occured to me Aschlalfy that when you are using the '100 or so singers' as an example you need to remove people like shirley temple from the list. You cant use her in relation to todays singers!&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It seems none of these individuals fit the thesis that is proposed here, and this 'mystery' seems like it doesn't exist, unless some better examples that fir the theory can be found.   I vote for deletion unless the argument can be made in some sensible way that is not &amp;quot;because someone says it is so&amp;quot;.   [[User:GaryK|GaryK]] 16:22, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Re. Margery Campbell's theory, I'm afraid that for your theory to be valid, the women listed here would have to be childless, which is not true in most of the cases, as I've pointed out above.   In fact, the cases listed in this article could not seem to have ''less'' relevance to such a theory, and without a shadow of a doubt, the case of Soraya needs to be removed, as in her case, it was clearly hereditary.   So what is the proposed theory that is so obvious?   [[User:GaryK|GaryK]] 17:50, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Reread what Margery Campbell said.  I'm not going to repeat myself again.  You have free will to reject logic.  None of your information contradicts what Margery Campbell said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, if what Margery said is what you actually meant then A) Why didnt you just state this a long time ago and avoid wasting your time and B) you just stated you learnt something from her which looks to me like you had no idea in the first place. Seems someone is straining to do some explaining.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Margery said that the likly cause of breast cancer was putting of having children to an older age, which is a developing trend right across society. As it is trend across society and not just amongst Hollywood types then this undermine your thesis that breast cancer rates are higher among Hollywood types as the rest of society's breast cancer rates would increase accordingly.&lt;br /&gt;
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:90% of breast cancers are not family related? Call be cynical but I think you pulled this statistic from the same place you pulled the 5 to 10 times increase than the general population and your 100 pop singers in the world. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 01:40, 10 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In short Mr.Schlafly, you have nothing, nothing at all except a hollow vessel, a wisp in the wind, a ship without water to sail upon.   But you do still have your interesting theory.   If you had properly defined your hypothesis, determined the population, and conducted the tests correctly, I can believe that you may well have a case.   But the problem is that this 'article' actually hurts your case terribly as it is so utterly lacking in credibility - and it also destroys any credibility you might have had as an analyst in future because you have chosen to fall upon the argument that is no argument at all - &amp;quot;It is so because I say it is so&amp;quot;.   Finally, when all you needed to prove your case was a simple, cold analysis of the facts, you instead choose to say &amp;quot;You have free will to reject logic&amp;quot;.   I - we - all of us who have stood in front of this vestigal edifice of thread and dust, rest our cases.   Please delete this mystery without mystery.   Good day to you.   [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 10:49, 10 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So that's it, then, is it? You are going to ignore all the helpful statistical advice on the talk page and just let the groundless assertion in the article stand? Up to you. It's your website. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 05:45, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK - here is my simple question. Where is the evidence to support the assertion that breast cancer incidence is higher among &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; women than in a general population of age-matched controls? [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 13:27, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The evidence is most striking with female rock stars.  Estimate the size of that population (perhaps 50) and look at how many have been stricken by breast cancer at a young age.  If they were working in a coal mine and you saw the same data, would you brush it off and ignore it?  I wouldn't.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:53, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sorry. I asked for evidence, and you reply with nothing more than an assertion. I am quite prepared to believe that it might be so, but there is nothing to demonstrate whether it is or not. You present no evidence that the incidence is unusually high. How is the study population defined, and how big is it, and what is is the incidence of breast cancer? What is the control group, and how does the incidence there compare with that in the study population? And how do you control for biases such as reporting bias? It's an interesting idea, and deserves proper study, but without such a study you simply have no grounds for the assertion. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 14:02, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: You wrote, &amp;quot;You present no evidence that the incidence is unusually high.&amp;quot;  Did you look at the list???  I'm sorry, but I want to see some &amp;quot;evidence&amp;quot; that you're looking at this with an open mind before I waste more time discussing it with you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:33, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Yes, an absolutely open mind. And yes, I have looked at the list. It is just that, a list. I could make a similar list of women of my acquaintance who have suffered from breast cancer, and it would produce an apparently high incidence (I won't right now go into the reasons why it would appear high, but I could do so if you really want to know) &amp;amp;mdash; but it would be meaningless. There is no defined study population, no defined control group, no stipulated method for gathering the data, no apparent attempt to take account of the biases inherent in compiling such a list. There is much detailed commentary on some of the statistical pitfalls and problems above, from various people, and I will not repeat it all here. What it comes down to is this: A statement that &amp;quot;Group X is particularly prone to develop problem Y&amp;quot; can only be made if the data are gathered by proper methods, and subjected to proper statistical analysis. You show neither adequate data collection nor adequate data analysis, and therefore have no evidence worthy of the name. I am quite open to the possibility that Hollywood women have a higher than normal incidence of cancer, and I can even think of some reasons why it might be so, but I see nothing to persuade me that it is so. The apparent high incidence looks much more like an artifact. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 14:50, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It does indeed seem as if this entire article contravenes Conservapedia Commandment No.1- &amp;quot;Everything you post must be true and '''verifiable'''&amp;quot;.   [[User:BenG|BenG]] 19:17, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think the problem here is verifying Mr. Schlafly's estimation of the number of female popular musicians under 30. He says there are 50, but I'm wondering how accurate that figure is. If we can ascertain the number that qualify under whatever parameters are set, and then figure out how many of those have developed breast cancer, we will have some solid preliminary figures to work with, which can at least set up a hypothesis, though we will still be short of having a final scientific result. If the numbers are indeed higher than the overall population (which we have solid figures for, I believe) then there may well be something to this. It would at least qualify as the stated &amp;quot;mystery&amp;quot;. [[User:DonaldG|DonaldG]] 19:56, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Humblpi, what evidence would you consider significant?  If 10x the expected cancer rate is not alarming to you, what would you require?  100x?  There isn't going to be a formal, double blind study, nor does there have to be if the expected incidence is exceeded by a high enough factor.  Demanding a formal study is like the tobacco companies demanding more, and more, and more studies before admitting the obvious, as the tobacco companies did for decades as they continued to cause the deaths of millions.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:50, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy, it wouldn't be possible to do a double-blind study.  You can't randomly assign anyone to either be a rock star or to get a cancer diagnosis.  I can't speak for anyone else I suppose, but I don't think anyone is asking for a formal study.  The problem that keeps being raised is the estimate of the denominator, which appears (to me and apparently to others) to be a substantial underestimate; specifically, you haven't explained how you got the number.  This is the point of Method sections in research papers - to explain how you did what it is that you did.  Without that explanation, no matter how solid your case actually is, you leave yourself open to doubts. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 22:57, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, you didn't ask me the question, so I didn't realize you wanted me to answer it, but ok.  Before I do though, I will say that without a description of the method used, the reader is unable to make any informed judgment about whether there's cause for concern.  That done, there are two things that I would want to see.  First is whether the effect of Hollywood on breast cancer is statistically significant.  Second, I would want to see an effect size.  The first indicates the probability that any difference among Hollywood types is due to chance, and the second indicates how big the difference is.  Both are needed.  If there is a significant difference, but the effect size shows that the risk is (as an example) 2% higher, I wouldn't say that's particularly meaningful.  Similarly, if the effect size shows that the risk is 100% higher but the p-value is .5 (ie, 50% chance that it's due to chance), I wouldn't make much of it.  On the other hand, if it was significant and the effect size was on the order of a 10% increase in risk or more, I would think of that as meaningful.  Notably, if your hypothesis is correct and there is a genuine effect, the effect size is likely to be closer to 10% higher than 100 or even 10x higher.  Cancers are mostly determined by multiple risk factors so it's unlikely that one is going to account for all that much variance.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 12:32, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Murray, don't presume ASchlafly has no evidence.   This is his site, and I'm sure he, more than anyone, is ready with verifiable evidence, just as his Commandment #1 demands.   Mr.Schlafly - I'm sure you're about to provide that evidence, and I'm sure you realize that asking rhetorical questions of your interlocutors is not the same as providing the methods behind your theory?   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 23:17, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I think you misunderstand, Aschlafly. It would indeed be inappropriate to attempt a prospective randomised double-blind study, but that is very far from saying that there should be no formal study of any kind. What is required is some sort of retrospective case-control study. That doesn't mean years of gathering data. In fact, it could be a fairly quick desk study &amp;amp;mdash; but what is absolutely critical is that you must follow rigorous methods. Your &amp;quot;unsanswered question&amp;quot; is completely the wrong question, because it focuses on results rather than on methods. The quality of an epidemiological study (or indeed any scientific study) is judged on its ''methods'', not on the magnitude of its ''results''. Any significant (i.e. ''statistically'' significant) increase in cancer incidence would be a &amp;quot;cause for concern&amp;quot;, but only if it was a real increase, and that means one that has been determined by proper analysis. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:15, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::ASchlafly, in the case of your hypothetical mine, the answer is an ''unreserved'' &amp;quot;of course not&amp;quot;.   But that is not a valid example, as in your story, you '''know''' the &amp;quot;number of women in the mine&amp;quot;.   In the case of young women in the entertainment business, an estimate of 50 is likely orders of magnitude short of reality - you don't &amp;quot;know the number of women in the mine&amp;quot;.   However, if you can figure out how many young women are in the entertainment business worldwide, you can contnue to test your thesis.   But until then, simply stating &amp;quot;the number of women in the entertainment business worldwide is 50&amp;quot; is ''not'' an adequate answer.   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 19:04, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Murray, StatsMsn, and other detractors here, what's your answer to the simple question?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, if you genuinely think that I didn't answer before you either didn't understand or didn't read what I wrote.  I explicitly said a 10% increase and a sufficiently low p value.  That couldn't be clearer.  But fine, I'll do the research for you when I have the time, to clarify that 50 is a gross underestimate.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 19:44, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Murray, EngelUmpocker has answered the simple question.  You have not.  Do I need to ask it again?  &amp;quot;Suppose a disease has an overall incidence of 1 in 1000.  Suppose next that among 50 people who worked in a particular mine, 5 came down with the disease.  Do you dismiss the data and continue sending more women into the mine?  Yes or no, please.&amp;quot;--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The list given on the previous page includes women being born in the 1940s.  Shirley Temple was born in 1928.  Going back to touring female singers who were between 22 and 30 with the same range can eaisly get 50 women.  And so, as I grab the list I had before... Michelle Phillips,  Carole King, Florence Ballard, Mary Wilson, Betty McGlown, Diana Ross, Barbara Martin, Cindy Birdsong, Jean Terrell, Lynda Laurence, Scherrie Payne, Susaye Greene, Martha Reeves, Rosalind Holmes, Annette Helton, Gloria Williams, Betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Sandra Tilley, Victoria Beckham, Melanie Brown, Emma Bunton, Melanie Chisholm, Geri Hallwell, Anasol, Carolina la O, Fanny Lu, Carolina Herrera, Shakira, Toto la Momposina, Veronica Orozco -- from just a quick sample of a few 'girl groups', some classic rock and a South American country.  --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 19:24, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I would recommend a look at the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_rock_singers list of Female Rock Singers on Wikipedia] (please set aside your distaste for that site for this one list - if nothing else, you can deride Wikipedia for being no use for anything other than 'good on rock music'!) - which contains over 400 singers at present.   And that's just rock singers.   But not [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_heavy_metal_singers Female Heavy Metal singers], which currently has 83 listed.   What about jazz singers?   Next, we have to include actresses, dancers, etc.   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 19:35, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: The Wikipedia list is all ages, including many under 22 years old and too young to develop breast cancer yet.  The Wikipedia list also includes non-touring singers who would have no reason to disclose breast cancer.  And even with that, the list is nowhere near the 5000 you implied.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:56, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::: I agree that I do not have the age breakdown of that list - and though the info is there, I simply don't have enough free time to do that.   So I will freely grant that until someone does that research, we don't exactly know the population size.   But let's guess that it's 200 out of the near 500 we see listed - that's not unreasonable.   But this is a list of mostly US and UK singers.   Where are the comparable lists of Japanese, Croatian and Italian singers, who also no doubt have a tendency to succumb to [[Hollywood Values]]?   How do we find out about the number of 'young hopefuls' in millions of towns around the world, rehearsing with a band in a garage somewhere, but not famous enough to be listed on Wikipedia, but very likely 'partying' and in the right age range?   And that's just rock and pop singers - we haven't covered rappers, actresses or TV 'people' (I'm guessing chat show hosts, weather girls, news readers, etc might be just as susceptible to [[Hollywood Values]]?.   IMDB lists well over half a million actresses - but again, only a portion of those will be in the right age range.   But a very large number will be, as the age range is the functioning age range for most actresses.   So while I'm openly admitting all these flaws in my own data, can you at least admit that your guess of 50 is very likely to be orders of magnitude off?   That the final numbers could easily be in the thousands or even tens of thousands internationally?   As you asked me - yes or no?   Is that possible?   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 22:01, 22 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Indeed it would be alarming.  And all the parts are given there - in particular, the size of the population in question.  And so we must now find out how many Australian, European, American, Latin American, South American ... singers, day time television stars, actresses, and models at some minimum level of fame (admit it - you don't know who 75% of the people in the list are) there are of various ages over the past 5 decades. At that point you can start looking at how many people are working in that particular mine. I would contend that for the population given that covers the list given, it is in the tens of thousands of people. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 16:26, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Aschlafly, your model is perfectly correct, and that would certainly reveal a fundamental problem.   However,there's a fundamental difference between your example and your proposed case.   In your case, you don't know how many people are 'in the mine'.   If there are a hundred times the number of people in the mine than you think, then the problem is a hundred times less severe than you've imagined.   And you are simply 'saying' that there's 50 rock singers in the whole world.   Since I can think of 50 rock singer girls between the age of 18-45 in the city of Akron, Ohio alone, I think your population estimate is '''wildly''' wrong.   And if your test population is much bigger, the problem is smaller.   At a guess, I would say you re out by at the very least a factor of 1,000.   If you want the redaer's here to start listing candidates, we can certainly start doing so, but the list will become very, very long.   And then there's actresses.   All over the world.   [[User:JerryMander|JerryMander]] 16:51, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Working with Mr. Schlafly's 50 under 30 estimate, I've compiled a list of 50 of the best selling female music stars under 30 years old (born after May 1978). This is not an exact list, but all of the following are among the 50 most popular female musicians under 30, and I'm sure well over half of them are indiputable in the current top 50. (No particular order, though obviously some of the biggest are mentioned first):&lt;br /&gt;
#Britney Spears&lt;br /&gt;
#Christina Aguilera&lt;br /&gt;
#Jessica Simpson&lt;br /&gt;
#Ashlee Simpson&lt;br /&gt;
#Rihanna&lt;br /&gt;
#Amy Winehouse&lt;br /&gt;
#Kelly Clarkson&lt;br /&gt;
#Lilly Allen&lt;br /&gt;
#Beyonce Knowles&lt;br /&gt;
#Kelly Rowland&lt;br /&gt;
#Michelle Williams&lt;br /&gt;
#Kate Nash&lt;br /&gt;
#Hillary Duff&lt;br /&gt;
#Vanessa Carlton&lt;br /&gt;
#Michelle Branch&lt;br /&gt;
#Miley Cyrus&lt;br /&gt;
#Lindsay Lohan&lt;br /&gt;
#Vanessa Hudgens&lt;br /&gt;
#Leann Rimes&lt;br /&gt;
#Jordan Sparks&lt;br /&gt;
#Mandy Moore&lt;br /&gt;
#Mary Kate Olsen&lt;br /&gt;
#Ashley Olsen&lt;br /&gt;
#Jamie Lynn Spears&lt;br /&gt;
#Ashley Tisdale&lt;br /&gt;
#Pink&lt;br /&gt;
#Avril Lavigne&lt;br /&gt;
#Carrie Underwood&lt;br /&gt;
#Fantasia Barrino&lt;br /&gt;
#Kellie Pickler&lt;br /&gt;
#Nelly Furtado&lt;br /&gt;
#Natasha Bedingfield&lt;br /&gt;
#Alicia Keyes&lt;br /&gt;
#Norah Jones&lt;br /&gt;
#Ashanti&lt;br /&gt;
#Mya&lt;br /&gt;
#Kelis&lt;br /&gt;
#Duffy&lt;br /&gt;
#Kelly Osbourn&lt;br /&gt;
#Joss Stone&lt;br /&gt;
#Tegan Quin&lt;br /&gt;
#Sara Quin&lt;br /&gt;
#Colbie Caillot&lt;br /&gt;
#Cassie&lt;br /&gt;
#Ciara&lt;br /&gt;
#Katherine McPhee&lt;br /&gt;
#Lady Sovereign&lt;br /&gt;
#Haylie Duff&lt;br /&gt;
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So that confirms there are at least 50 popular female pop stars in the genres of rock, pop, and country and in the English speaking world (I'm not going to start looking for young pop stars in China, India, Japan, and other places that I'm sure have many such singers we'll never hear of). All of these, I'm pretty sure, are currently under 30. I don't know of any who have breast cancer, but I don't know that they don't. If we can identify a significant number of them who do, or identify others not on this list who maybe should be who do have breast cancer, we can have some numbers to work with. They will not be exact, and won't in themselves confirm any hypothesis, but they will be a good start, and give us something to work with. After all, the title of this is &amp;quot;mystery&amp;quot;; it doesn't claim to give definite answers and we shouldn't demand any at this stage&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is a good start, and I haven't had a chance to review these individuals.  But the population should not include women who are too young to develop breast cancer, such as teenagers.  Also, it should not include women who lack performance schedules that would necessitate the disclosure of breast cancer as the reason for cancellations.  Most entertainers, particularly those who rely on a healthy and sexy image, would be reluctant for understandable reasons to disclose the disease unless they virtually have to.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:55, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The first is easy enough, we can limit the pool from performers born since May 1978 to born between May 1978 and May 1988. That will remove teenagers (though should any Hollywood teens turn out to have breast cancer they will have to be removed from the analysis as well, which could end up working against your hypothesis). Since the vast majority of those listed above are in their 20's the list won't change dramatically, I think.&lt;br /&gt;
::The second part is harder. Analysis of schedules and trying to make judgment calls on who is likely to hide a diagnosis is very subjective, particularly as we have no strong evidence of stars keeping it a secret. In fact, as a diagnosis of cancer is a surefire ticket to the cover of People magazine, they have an incentive to go public. Hollywood types thrive on publicity. Without compelling evidence of a statistically significant number of Hollywood women keeping cancer diagnoses secret, I don't see how it can be worked into even an informal study. If the results show a higher instance of breast cancer in this group, as you seem to think will be the case, then these potential secret cases won't matter, as we will already have established a higher rate without them. If they're lower for some reason, then that could be a sign that indeed some are not disclosing it. But I don't see any way of working theoretical non-disclosure into the study. Especially since if we make our study group too small, the probability of getting skewed results is greater. [[User:Cfred|Cfred]] 22:05, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I've been able to research two of them from the list, but both were near 20 in age (too young to develop breast cancer), and it was not clear they do any touring that would compel a disclosure.  Also, the two listed in the entry are not on the list above.  I'd limit (and expand) the list to include signers age 21 or 22 through 29 who are (or were) touring singers.  I'd be surprised if that list were 100, and astonished if it were as high as 200.  Yet 2 announced having breast cancer (one of whom died from it), despite the rate in the general population in that group being only 1 in 2500.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:20, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure why the limit is to born after 1978 for the population.  Minnie Riperton was born in 1947.  The people should include individuals like Michelle Phillips,  Carole King, Florence Ballard, Mary Wilson, Betty McGlown, Diana Ross, Barbara Martin, Cindy Birdsong, Jean Terrell, Lynda Laurence, Scherrie Payne, Susaye Greene, Martha Reeves, Rosalind Holmes, Annette Helton, Gloria Williams, betty Kelly, Lois Reeves, Sandra Tilley, etc... all the way through Victoria Beckham, Melanie Brown, Emma Bunton, Melanie Chisholm, Geri Hallwell.  Why limit ourselves to the list of what is popular now - the list given has many more.   There's a Colombian singer on the list too - so what about Anasol, Carolina la O, Fanny Lu, Carolina Herrera, Shakira, Toto la Momposina, Veronica Orozco.  There's an Australian soap opera actress - so what the women listed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_soap_opera_actors though I'm not sure why one would limit to just soap operas - so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_television_actors would be better to go from.  There's an Australian pop singer in there too - so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_pop_singers  should be added too.  Realize that this is just the list of what Wikipedia considers notable.  I am sure that PJR can attest that there are many more than 83 female pop artists in Australia since the 1940s. --[[User:Rutm|Rutm]] 00:49, 21 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Andy, are you not reading my words?  I said a 10% increase is sufficient cause for concern if it's significantly different from the population, and 5/50 vs 1/1000 is more than 10% and would be significant.  That should be clear enough.  I do note that I have not gotten an answer to my simple question:  where did 50 come from?  Why the reluctance to be transparent?  50 is obviously not correct.  You challenged someone above to name 50 touring female singers between 22 and 30.  Check my talk page for a list of 114.  Unlike your list, which includes South America and individuals diagnosed 30 years ago, I only included artists from English-speaking countries who   performed in 2007-08.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 14:45, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Two additional notes - Murray and Andy, did you notice my list of 'Girl Groups' above?   69 women of the right age.   And the other point is that of course these are only pop singers - and I'm curious to know how we can approach the over half a million actresses listed on IMDB?   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 15:05, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Murray, you say it is &amp;quot;clear enough&amp;quot; but you seem unwilling to answer the question about the mine hypothetical.  It's not productive trying to read someone else's mind.  You now seem to be saying that anything more than a 10% would be significant.  If that's your view, then the data presented on the content page here is plainly significant:  By age 30: 1 in 2,525 is the expected risk, yet there are at least 3 singers out of less than 1000 who have been afflicted.  No matter how you manipulate the numbers, that's more than 10% in increased risk.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought that would've been clear enough Andy but I guess you don't think so.  I said yes, that's enough cause for concern ''if'' that's the case, if you know that you only have 50 in the population.  I also explicitly said that in that case it would be significant. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 18:26, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You sampled 2, did you?  And which were they?  Which didn't appear to be touring?  You're still not explaining how you estimated 50, other than saying you estimated it.  I didn't include anyone who hadn't performed between 2007 and the present.  And it's far from a complete list.  You claimed that someone couldn't identify even 50 - that was incorrect. The point is, we have no idea what the denominator is.  In your list, there is 1 person who fits the critera that I used, and that would be Anastacia.  Minnie Riperton died 30 years ago, and your other under-30 isn't a musician.  Even if I accept your math in the paragraph above, we get a total of about 600.  Then we can include Minnie Riperton, and it becomes 2/600.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 18:26, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: EngelUmpocker, your list of 69 might also be good.  But the same analysis above applies.  By the way, there is no way that there are a half million touring female singers.  The entire New York City area, as large and entertainment-oriented as it is, can probably support only a handful on any given weekend.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: More generally, I don't have a pre-ordained conclusion, and present these data as a mystery.  If this were a mine and the data were the same, you can bet most of us would not send our daughters in there.  Why the reluctance to admit the possibility that the same is true about these data?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:30, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Andy, the &amp;quot;half million&amp;quot; refers to IMDB listed '''actresses''', which is where I thought this article had originally begun.   We have recently only been debating female singers - &amp;quot;let's now try to begin estimating how many of the half million actresses listed on IMDB are relevant&amp;quot;, is what my point was?   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 15:40, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Perhaps someone else mentioned that number.  I don't see how it is relevant.  It would include people who were in just one movie, and maybe never even quit their day job!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:47, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: It most definitely would include people who would not be 'relevant', but it's a start.   We must start to quantify these numbers ''somehow'', as otherwise it's just an assertion - and I know you don't want your theory based on an assertion.   But over a half a million is a good start.   Certainly I imagine there's tens of thousand of those who would fit our profile and are, or were professional actresses.   Certainly, we can see that there's at the very least hundreds of touring young women in the rock and pop business in the 'Western' world.   Next I hope to quantify jazz singers, classical musicians, circus performers and Broadway show-style performers.    [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 16:57, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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REPLY TO MURRAY AND ENGEL:  Murray, Natasha St-Pier from your list was one of the two I sampled who did not seem to be touring.  The other one (whose name escapes me) is touring but canceled a big concert, which could mean anything.  Engel, you can start with whatever list you like but the list of all actresses has far more irrelevant names than relevant ones.  We could also start with the New York City phone book, I suppose!  (Please don't be offended by that humor.)&lt;br /&gt;
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An intriguing possibility that I toss out for consideration by Murray and Engel, to which I don't yet know the answer, is whether we could use a ranking of the the most successful female singers and then note the frequency of breast cancer as a function of rank.  If 2 out of the top 20 developed breast cancer at a young age, wouldn't that be alarming?  That approach presents a good intellectual challenge.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Andy, Natasha St Pier was touring in 2007:  [http://www.concertandco.com/artiste/natasha-st-pier/billet-concert-27548.htm].  As to your comment about rank, it is a distraction given that the primary issues raised here are not resolved.  But nevertheless, it would be easy enough to approximate by categorizing artists based on sales and determining whether the risk differs by category.  Though a glance at your list on the &amp;quot;Mystery&amp;quot; page suggests (to me at least) you would find nothing, as only 2 singers got breast cancer under 30 that are listed, and the only place I've heard of either is right here. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 20:54, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What is Soraya Arnelas' relation to Hollywood?[[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 14:04, 19 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Let me guess, &amp;quot;Wandering&amp;quot;: you're another person who thinks &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; means merely the physical town in Southern California.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:09, 20 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_music_performers here's] a list of all Country &amp;amp; Western musicians.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jazz_vocalists Here's a list] of jazz singers].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_stage_actors Here's] a list of American stage actors.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.imdb.com/database_statistics Here's IMDB's overall statistics page], listing total number of actresses.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_rock_singers List of female rock singers].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_heavy_metal_singers List of female heavy metal singers].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_soap_opera_actors List of Australian Soap Opera actors].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_television_actors List of Australian TV actors].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_pop_singers List of Australian Pop singers].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_musicians List of Canadian musicians].&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_pop_musicians_of_the_2000s List of British Pop Musicians of the 2000's].&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately many of these are not broken down by gender, but maybe we can ask the various editors to help.   Warning - the lists get very, very long.   [[User:EngelUmpocker|EngelUmpocker]] 20:57, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Katy Cusack==&lt;br /&gt;
Ms. Cusack, according to the articles, was a stage actress only in the Austin area, and worked mainly at a clothing shop she owned.  I don't think she should be counted as part of Hollywood.  [[User:ZTak|ZTak]] 21:09, 24 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I plan on removing  her from the list soon.  I could be wrong, but I don't think she falls under the definition of a member of Hollywood.  It would be nice if someone else could respond one way or the other.  [[User:ZTak|ZTak]] 22:32, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If by &amp;quot;hollywood&amp;quot; you also include Norwegian actresses then you must also include all actresses from all of Europe at bare minimum and probably from all over the world.  No offence Andy, but this page is ridiculous and I'm surprised you can't see that. [[user:DamianJohn]]&lt;br /&gt;
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a delicate subject to be sure but is there ant statistical link to show that actresses with breast cancer ALSO had breast enhancements which may have increased the risks ? just a thought [[User:Markr|Markr]] 17:59, 17 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Seems unlikely and there are far larger studies of that issue with negative results.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:47, 17 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The article ONLY lists a very few cases of Hollywood (and even some who have nothing to do with Hollywood) actresses who have been diagnosed with breast cancer at a relatively young age. They have been listed because they are below the average age for diagnosis, but as has been pointed out this figure is the mean, by definition it will have values above and below. There will also be many examples of Hollywood actresses diagnosed with the condition after the average age, and I expect that if an actual survey were done the average age of diagnosis when limited to hollywood actresses would be very close to the national average. However, this raises another fundamental flaw. The group in question is far too small in mathematical terms for any meaningful conclusions to be drawn. The definition of the group of people in question is also highly arbitrary making any sort of mathematical assessment of the group difficult. [[User:RobertWDP|RobertWDP]] 07:49, 27 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Robert, please learn first here, then comment.  Your statistical analysis above is completely wrong.  Clusters within a group this size certainly are meaningful.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I can safely say I have never nor would I ever work for a tobacco company. My argument is that the statistics are not meaningful for the group size in question since for one thing the group size has not been accurately delimited. And for another the group has been selected by specifically identifying individual actresses that have been diagnosed at a young age. I'm sure there are hollywood actresses who have been diagnosed with breast cancer at a relatively old age and certainly ages much closer to or above the average stated in the article, however this has not been accounted for and in statistical terms there is a pre-existing bias towards the younger victims before any analysis is actually undertaken. You yourself also acknowledge the lack of complete numbers of those diagnosed within hollywood. The statistics regarding actual risk also differ temporally and spatially. Obviously hollywood actresses come from across the world and so the statistics that are more relevant to them would be those from their places of origin. Even within the USA there is variation in the chance of suffering from breast cancer. The different times at which the featured actresses were diagnosed also raises issues since the risk statistics have changed over time whereas the articles simply groups them all together. (also as you shall see i have edited the title of this section from both my original and your edit, to better reflect the nature of this discussion. [[User:RobertWDP|RobertWDP]] 12:35, 27 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::RobertWDP, you may or may not be aware of Mr Schlafly's considerable experience in the medico-legal world and that he has a commanding grip of statistical analysis displayed on numerous occasions in the pages of this encyclopaedia. It would be sensible, and courteous, to recognise and respect his expertise. [[User:CedP|CedP]] 12:58, 27 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I hope I have been courteous and that I will continue to be. I am willing to recognise the expertise of others if they will do me the same favour. I have studied statistics as a stand-alone subject in considerable depth. I do not think the need for any significant medical knowledge is all that great here, I am willing to accept the statistics provided regarding national rates and the like and medical questions as to what may actually cause the apparent mystery are never really raised to a significant extent and are not the focus of my critique. The specific issues of fundamental statistics I have referred to in both of my previous messages on this subject have yet to be addressed in any response thus far, and I think this might well prove to be a more constructive line of discussion as opposed to speculating about personal issues. [[User:RobertWDP|RobertWDP]] 13:03, 27 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: RobertWDP, I reread the beginning of your rant at the top of this section and stopped there.  I'll be honest:  I don't have time to explain simple statistics to you.  If the expected rate of lung cancer among the general non-smoking public is 1 in 10,000, and you observe a rate of 20% in a sample size of 20 smokers, then that ''is'' statistically significant and should be the cause for great alarm.  Deny it, as tobacco companies did for decades, and you can have a good job for a tobacco company but you're not helping any of the potential victims.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:32, 28 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, I'm afraid such a rate would not be statistically significant, especially with just the information you've provided in that hypothetical. And there is another major flaw in your example. Whilst of course such a high rate would be alarming, the sample does not link with the rate you have provided since the rate is for non-smoker whilst the sample is strictly smokers. As such to try and make a comparison between that sample and that figure is impossible. Certainly with a larger sample you could compare the rates of lung cancer amongst smokers and non-smokers and would most definitely find it to be much higher amongst the former. The fact is that the situation with regards to breast cancer in hollywood may ''appear'' to be like that hypothetical situation you have described, but as I have said repeatedly you have not accurately defined the sample size, and as such you cannot even state what the actual breast cancer rate is within that. Also, if in the smokers case you deliberately chose people who had lung cancer then you would be showing bias in the analysis. That is exactly what has been going on in the main article since people have been selected exclusively because they had cancer at a young age. There is no mention of any actresses who were diagnosed at a later age, which would affect the average, and this then links back into the point about the undefined actual number of 'hollywood' actresses. I have stated these points before and it is necessary to read the whole of my post to see this. As I have also stated I would rather you didn't make personal attacks against me, I have not done the same, please stick to discussing the actual issues. For one thing this example is not even comparable to the cigarettes causing cancer issue, which of course they most certainly do! No actual biological explanation for the apparent mystery is put forward and so I am not even trying to deny any cause, such as tobacco. Trying to frame my arguments in that light is only going to be counter-productive I fear. [[User:RobertWDP|RobertWDP]] 10:59, 1 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Reading this article, it seems like it either needs substantial expansion or deletion.  From the data given in this article I am seeing 22 cases, 14 of which I would actually associate with Hollywood, over a period of more than thirty years.  Even if you count every case as if they were associated, that's less than 1 case per year.  I would hardly call that a conclusive argument that somehow the Hollywood lifestyle leads to a higher incidence of breast cancer.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 12:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about Britney Spears? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not entirely accurate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it's valid for two reasons: it draws attention to the fact that CP doesn't yet have articles on them, and may make someone write one. Also, when an article is eventually written, the links are already there, so nobody has to go back and add them retroactively. If they're already there, you may as well leave them. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hollywood==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do we do? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Forrest Gump'' was not &amp;quot;a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives have learning disabilities.&amp;quot;  I'm taking it out. {{unsigned|Grapes}}&lt;br /&gt;
:On what grounds? o.O [[User:NathanG|Nate]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:NathanG|my opinion matters?]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, I think [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/censor censor] has a different meaning than [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delete delete.]  Now, I'm no big city lawyer.  Wait, yes I am.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 22:44, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::My apologies, it appears that you are correct... or at least you were, before the last grammar fix. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 14:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is nothing &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot; about this.  Values and lifestyles can cause harm just as surely as smoking can.  Do we criticize anti-smoking statements as &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot;?  Of course not.  Highlighting the harm caused by [[Hollywood Values]] is not pious either.  In fact, it can be scientifically studied.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miley Cyrus==&lt;br /&gt;
see http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;They include shots of the teen wrapped in what appears to be a satin bedsheet, looking over her shoulder with her back exposed.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Do we want to put our cards on the table people?  Clearly the reason that some here do not want this addition to the Hollywood values page is that Ms Cyrus appeared on the Main Page here not long ago as an exemplar of Christian virtue when she spoke of her ambition to abstain from sex until marriage (if memory serves).&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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topless requires that the breasts be exposed since they were not she was not topless --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:49, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it just me, or is this a bit one-sided? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is an encyclopedia.  Don't insert rants, or [[gossip]], or claims that lack proper substantiation.  Clear enough?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:14, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Cleared up some dead links in the references.  Working on a substantial rewrite on the article, adding subcategories and trying to cover more of the entertainment industry as a whole.  There is definitely room for improvement in this article, hence why I am devoting to much attention to the subject.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 23:04, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/entertainment/news/article/20021--list-of-celebrities-taken-by-drug-use-tragic-and-growing&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43. drown while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
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:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
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:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43. drown while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.  Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Hollywood television producer Bruce Beresford-Redman of CBS's &amp;quot;Survivor&amp;quot; series is arrested as the lead suspect in the murder of his wife. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/08/mexican-official-hollywood-tv-producer-suspect-wifes-death/?test=latestnews 'Survivor' Producer 'Suspected' in Wife's Death in Mexico, FOX News, April 8, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
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:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
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:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A 2006 poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43. drown while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43. drown while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuate [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Barrymore]], 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Belushi]], 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clara Blandick]], 81, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Bonham]], 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elisa Bridges]], 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Carradine]], 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Clark]], 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lana Clarkson]], 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ray Combs]], 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Costelloe]], 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bob Crane]],49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Dane]], 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eazy-E]], 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Epstein]], 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Farley]], 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucy Gordon]], 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Grivas]], 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Phil Hartman]], 49, murdered in his million-dollar house by his third wife Brynn Hartman &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaux Hemingway]], 42, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Hutchence]], 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Jeni]], 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Janis Joplin]], 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Koenig]], 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stuart Lubbock]], 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer [[Michael Barrymore]], having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sal Mineo]], 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Keith Moon]], drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brittany Murphy]], 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Penn]], 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[River Phoenix]], 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dana Plato]], 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Virginia Rappe]], 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Reed]], 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brad Renfro]], 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Reeves]], 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sharon Tate]], 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, [[Terry Melcher]] (son of [[Doris Day]]) and [[Candice Bergen]].) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lou Tellegen]], 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kenneth Williams]], 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Natalie Wood]], 43. drown while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paula Yates]], 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Layne Staley]], 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 [[Alice in Chains]] song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Possible Inclusions==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So?==&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
Or, as I suspect, is Conservapedia wearing the type of blinders that see any conservative's troubles with drugs or alcohol as a momentary temptation by the liberal side? &lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm disgusted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Artiefisk|Artiefisk]] 14:34, 12 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about Britney Spears? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not entirely accurate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikilinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think it's valid for two reasons: it draws attention to the fact that CP doesn't yet have articles on them, and may make someone write one. Also, when an article is eventually written, the links are already there, so nobody has to go back and add them retroactively. If they're already there, you may as well leave them. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:25, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hollywood==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I share Maestro's confusion. Can a sysop address this issue, please? I don't think I should just edit the article.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 12:29, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It doesn't do to be too literal. Hollywood obviousdly doesn't apply just to the motion picture studios in Hollywood, CA. The term is used in its broader sense of applying to the entertainment 'industry'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:35, 2 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What do we do? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bix Biederbecke ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just removed him from the list.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 20:05, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:On what grounds? o.O [[User:NathanG|Nate]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:NathanG|my opinion matters?]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::On the grounds that it isn't a clumsy attempt to imply that conservatives are conservative because of a mental disability. [[User:Grapes|Grapes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::My apologies, it appears that you are correct... or at least you were, before the last grammar fix. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 14:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is nothing &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot; about this.  Values and lifestyles can cause harm just as surely as smoking can.  Do we criticize anti-smoking statements as &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot;?  Of course not.  Highlighting the harm caused by [[Hollywood Values]] is not pious either.  In fact, it can be scientifically studied.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ridiculous==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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topless requires that the breasts be exposed since they were not she was not topless --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:49, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A little disgusted by the bit on Sharon Tate, I must say.  Hollywood values may be partially to blame for her death, but it wasn't her HV or her husband's HV, it was the Family's HV.  It reads like a cheap shot at a woman who was brutally murdered, or one at her bereaved husband (or both).--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:58, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Otherwise you should list every cannabis user who died, regardless of cause of death. For example - if a lone hunter was attacked by a black bear and died as a result, and they found traces of THC in his body, would you say that's the cause of death? That he died of drug use? Or that he died because of Hollywood values? (Now... if he got high and provoked the bear, that's an entirely different story...)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have to agree with Tom Moore on this one... There has been some mistake, just a misunderstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But, [[Hollywood values]] embrassed by all [[Liberals]] would mean they were desensortised to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that there may be a certain level of contradiction here. Although we ''can'' use arrests as a way to suggest hedonistic activity of Hollywood stars, we're mentioning an accusation without proof they were convicted of the actual crime.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it just me, or is this a bit one-sided? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only some people in Hollywood follow Hollywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Creepy, but by CP's definition, not paedophilia.  I see the inconsistency is still there.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Freddie Mercury also contracted AIDS through his homosexual lifestyle and flamboyant onstage presence.''  &lt;br /&gt;
One cannot contract AIDS through a flamboyant onstage presence.  I'll leave it to someone else to straighten this one out.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposed new section: &amp;quot;Shunning actors who disagree with Hollywood's values&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How to write an article==&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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I rewrote it to show that these men were trying to push back the tide. &lt;br /&gt;
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(If you disagree with a critique of liberal values or actions, discuss it on the talk page - do not distort the truth. And in the rare case where a conservative writer appears to make an error, contact him for a clarification FIRST. Keep in mind the purpose of the project whenever you edit an article or comment on it. Debates and declarations of personal values are confined to debate pages and user pages.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You've got the cart before the horse, Dirk; if celebrities outside the movie industry have Hollywood values, that shows how pervasive they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==don't know where to put this==&lt;br /&gt;
This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not our place to accuse people. Only God and OJ himself know whether OJ did it, and neither of them edit this wiki. An encyclopedia states the facts, and the facts are that he was acquitted, even though popular opinion holds that he was guilty. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:19, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: And it's not just popular opinion that says OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend.  Scientific tests proved it with overwhelming odds.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:44, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I hadn't heard that. I guess I din't really pay close enough attention to OJ news. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Actors, Actresses... What about the older shows ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I heard that TVLAND was going to air reruns of M*A*S*H*, I was heartbroken. I cannot find a single reference to how shows like M*A*S*H* encouraged bad behavior. In a moment, I will find a good website or book--[[User:CindyP|CindyP]] 17:01, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Independence Day==&lt;br /&gt;
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Precisely what conservative or 'non-Hollywod' values are being conveyed in ''Independence Day''?   It's OK to punch aliens if they want to raise your taxes?   Sneaking diseases on board alien spaceships will prevent them from making us abort our children?   Conspiracy theories about government cover-ups are actually all true?   It really is a tremendously stupid film, and it makes no sense whatsoever as an example of a film without Hollywood Values.  You might as well pick Pineapple Express, for all the sense it makes.   [[User:BenHur|BenHur]] 15:55, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another example? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure if [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478607,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime this] example is suitable for this article or not but i thought i'd suggest it. I'm not sure because i think the person in question worked mainly in New York. [[User:JamesDW|JamesDW]] 22:15, 11 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michael Jackson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is yet another conspicuous example and I have readded the entry for it. I do not understand why the entry was blanked when someone else had added it earlier (or was it because the claim about the drugs was not entirely accurate and came about due to media hysteria?). [[User:BillyD|BillyD]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is an encyclopedia.  Don't insert rants, or [[gossip]], or claims that lack proper substantiation.  Clear enough?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:14, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Dean ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could someone explain to me how James Dean's tragic death in an automobile accident was the result of 'Hollywood values'? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 17:07, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Dean was a reckless driver who had been ticketed for speeding two hours earlier, and was going at a high speed to cause the fatal accident.  He ran into a car turning in front of him, injuring not only himself but others also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:25, 5 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I understand that his driving record was far from acceptable and that he played a clear role in his demise, but I don't see this as directly attributable to Hollywood values. I belong to a staunchly conservative family, but I freely admit that relatives of mine have been reckless in their driving. Some have been lucky enough to escape deserved punishment, others have been ticketed. It saddens me to suggest that such behavior is rife in our society regardless of political affiliation. Thoughts? [[User:EnglishBob|EnglishBob]] 18:12, 5 July 2009 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;For years, fans of Hollywood get to watch the celebrities&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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JPatt, there's some serious verb-tense disagreement going on in your reversion of me. What tense do you want the sentence in? 01:06, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't revert you and feel free to rearrange the grammar properly. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 01:08, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also feel free to sign your posts! It's the box above when you compose, next to the circle with the slash through it. ;-) --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:37, 24 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brittany Murphy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just removed Brittany Murphy's name from the list. A coroner's report found pneumonia was the cause of her death and while prescription drugs were found in her system, they were prescribed for specific illnesses she had at the time of her death.[http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/02/04/brittany-murphy.html] [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 15:23, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion needed? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm inclined to revert Lorddragyn's edits, which repeatedly downplay the culpability here by the Hollywood &amp;quot;stars&amp;quot;.  For example, James Dean was a notoriously irresponsible driver who died by running into someone else, and could have killed him too.  It doesn't matter that the investigation could not conclude that speeding was the cause of the fatal wreck.  Often such investigations are inconclusive.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:52, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[User:Lorddragyn]]==&lt;br /&gt;
I dislike the username in addition to his edits. Hollywood values done to Wikipedia style of editing does not impress me. You can minimize that it was just an overdose, not a suicide, list all the fancy drug names, but it's still a suicide. He knew what he was doing was illegal and harmful. To reflect more on Wikipedia style you need look no further than The December 25th Bomber [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253&amp;amp;oldid=334150190] as an example. What is more important, knowing the plane model and color or that it was an Islamic Terrorist trained to kill Americans?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have to second/third this.  His entire objective is watering down hollywood behavior.  And note that this is his behavior immediately upon receiving a second chance. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 14:58, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My objective is not to water down Hollywood behavior.  My objective is to clarify that some of the people on the list died accidentally, while fully knowing the consequences of their actions, some died because they were trying to.  Knowing that someone died because they ingested multiple different types of pills, or had a history of reckless driving before dying in a car accident, proves Hollywood values more than just saying suicide.  And providing more details surrounding the deaths of these people shows the inherent corruption in Hollywood as a whole, not just the people on this page, which is what I thought we were trying to show with this article in the first place.  If I'm wrong let me know, but I think my argument makes sense.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 18:52, 7 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*John Barrymore, 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking of bad, and probably poisonous, Prohibition era illegal alcohol.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Belushi, 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Clara Blandick, 81, overdose of sleeping pills to escape the pain of severe arthritis and impending blindness.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Bonham, 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit.&lt;br /&gt;
*Elisa Bridges, 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, acute intoxication by the combined effects of heroin, methamphetamine, meperidine and alprazolam.&lt;br /&gt;
*David Carradine, 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Stephen Clark, 30, Def Leppard guitarist, overdose of codeine.  Also had Valium and morphine is his system and a blood alcohol level of .30.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lana Clarkson, 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ray Combs, 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Costelloe, 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Bob Crane, 49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*Karl Dane, 47, suicide by gunshot after severe depression due to several failed business ventures.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, died in a car accident in which the other car veered into his lane.  This was within hours of getting a speeding ticket, but speed was not a contributing factor to the accident.&lt;br /&gt;
*Eazy-E, 31, [[AIDS]] contracted through unprotected sex with female fans.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brian Epstein, 32, overdosed on Carbitral, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Farley, 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, accidental overdose of Seconal, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lucy Gordon, 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself after the death of a close friend. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Grivas, 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, died of a drug overdose linked to a massive illegal prescription-drug ring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Phil Hartman, 49, murdered in his sleep by his third wife Brynn Hartman, who was on cocaine and drunk.  She later committed suicide. &lt;br /&gt;
*Margaux Hemingway, 42, overdose of phenobarbital.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Hutchence, 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His lover, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*Richard Jeni, 49, suicide by gunshot due to severe clinical depression and psychotic paranoia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Janis Joplin, 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*Andrew Koenig, 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stuart Lubbock, 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer Michael Barrymore, having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sal Mineo, 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;, stabbed to death outside his apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, acute barbiturate poisoning, thought by many to have been murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Keith Moon, drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, became addicted to heroin after depression, died of possible heroin overdose.  Lack of autopsy leaves unanswered questions.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brittany Murphy, 32, motion picture actress died of cardiac arrest cased by pneumonia, with secondary factors of iron-deficiency anemia and multiple drug intoxication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Penn, 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], died accidentally of cardiomyopathy caused by an enlarged heart and promethazine and codeine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*River Phoenix, 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato, 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, overdose of Vanadom and Vicodin after an accountant left her nearly penniless and living in an RV in Navarre, Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, listed as cardiac arrhythmia on the coroners report to cover up the true cause, a cocktail of ten prescribed drugs taken in massive doses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virginia Rappe, 30, died of a ruptured bladder and secondary peritonitis incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Reed, 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from colon and bladder cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Brad Renfro, 25, accidental heroin/morphine intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*George Reeves, 45, played Superman on the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Tate, 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, Terry Melcher (son of [[Doris Day]]) and Candice Bergen.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lou Tellegen, 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kenneth Williams, 62, overdose of barbiturates.&lt;br /&gt;
*Natalie Wood, 43. drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Paula Yates, 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Layne Staley, 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 Alice in Chains song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, was HIV-positive and died of an epileptic seizure. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, perished of bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Nicholas Brendon had been arrested March '10 in a drunken scuffle with police. He is charged with resisting arrest, two counts of battery against a police officer and felony vandalism. Brendon has a history of alcoholism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.popeater.com/2010/04/07/nicholas-brendon-arrested-charged/ 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' Star Charged With Police Battery, Vandalism, PopEater.com, April 7, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Social Problems]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Binomial nomenclature''' is the scientific naming of species whereby each species receives a Latin or Latinized name of two parts, the first indicating the genus and the second being the species.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wile, Dr. Jay L. ''Exploring Creation With Biology''. Apologia Educational Ministries, Inc. 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The system was adopted by Swedish botanist and physician Carolus Linnaeus in the mid 18th century. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*John Barrymore, 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*John Belushi, 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Clara Blandick, 81, suicide.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Bonham, 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit.&lt;br /&gt;
*Elisa Bridges, 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*David Carradine, 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Stephen Clark, 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lana Clarkson, 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ray Combs, 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Costelloe, 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Bob Crane, 49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*Karl Dane, 47, suicide by gunshot after severe depression due to several failed business ventures.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, died in a car accident in which the other car veered into his lane.  This was within hours of getting a speeding ticket, but speed was not a contributing factor to the accident.&lt;br /&gt;
*Eazy-E, 31, [[AIDS]] contracted through unprotected sex with female fans.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brian Epstein, 32, overdosed on Carbitral, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Farley, 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, accidental overdose of Seconal, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lucy Gordon, 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Grivas, 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, died of a drug overdose linked to a massive illegal prescription-drug ring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Phil Hartman, 49, murdered in his sleep by his third wife Brynn Hartman, who was on cocaine and drunk.  She later committed suicide. &lt;br /&gt;
*Margaux Hemingway, 42, overdose of phenobarbital.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Hutchence, 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His lover, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*Richard Jeni, 49, suicide by gunshot due to severe clinical depression and psychotic paranoia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Janis Joplin, 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*Andrew Koenig, 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stuart Lubbock, 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer Michael Barrymore, having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sal Mineo, 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;, stabbed to death outside his apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, acute barbiturate poisoning, thought by many to have been murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Keith Moon, drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, became addicted to heroin after depression, died of possible heroin overdose.  Lack of autopsy leaves unanswered questions.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brittany Murphy, 32, motion picture actress died of cardiac arrest cased by pneumonia, with secondary factors of iron-deficiency anemia and multiple drug intoxication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Penn, 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], died accidentally of cardiomyopathy caused by an enlarged heart and promethazine and codeine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*River Phoenix, 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato, 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, overdose of Vanadom and Vicodin after an accountant left her nearly penniless and living in an RV in Navarre, Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, listed as cardiac arrhythmia on the coroners report to cover up the true cause, a cocktail of ten prescribed drugs taken in massive doses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virginia Rappe, 30, died of a ruptured bladder and secondary peritonitis incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Reed, 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from colon and bladder cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Brad Renfro, 25, accidental heroin/morphine intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*George Reeves, 45, played Superman on the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Tate, 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, Terry Melcher (son of [[Doris Day]]) and Candice Bergen.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lou Tellegen, 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kenneth Williams, 62, overdose of barbiturates.&lt;br /&gt;
*Natalie Wood, 43. Drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Paula Yates, 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Layne Staley, 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 Alice in Chains song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, was HIV-positive and died of an epileptic seizure. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, perished of bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*John Barrymore, 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*John Belushi, 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Clara Blandick, 81, suicide.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Bonham, 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit.&lt;br /&gt;
*Elisa Bridges, 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*David Carradine, 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Stephen Clark, 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lana Clarkson, 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ray Combs, 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Costelloe, 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Bob Crane, 49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*Karl Dane, 47, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below).&lt;br /&gt;
*Eazy-E, 31, [[AIDS]] contracted through unprotected sex with female fans.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brian Epstein, 32, overdosed on Carbitral, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Farley, 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lucy Gordon, 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Grivas, 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Phil Hartman, 49, murdered in his sleep by his third wife Brynn Hartman, who was on cocaine and drunk.  She later committed suicide. &lt;br /&gt;
*Margaux Hemingway, 42, overdose of phenobarbital.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Hutchence, 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His lover, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*Richard Jeni, 49, suicide by gunshot due to severe clinical depression and psychotic paranoia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Janis Joplin, 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*Andrew Koenig, 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stuart Lubbock, 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer Michael Barrymore, having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sal Mineo, 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;, stabbed to death outside his apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, acute barbiturate poisoning, thought by many to have been murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Keith Moon, drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, became addicted to heroin after depression, died of possible heroin overdose.  Lack of autopsy leaves unanswered questions.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brittany Murphy, 32, motion picture actress died of cardiac arrest cased by pneumonia, with secondary factors of iron-deficiency anemia and multiple drug intoxication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Penn, 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], died accidentally of cardiomyopathy caused by an enlarged heart and promethazine and codeine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*River Phoenix, 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato, 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, listed as cardiac arrhythmia on the coroners report to cover up the true cause, a cocktail of ten prescribed drugs taken in massive doses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virginia Rappe, 30, died of a ruptured bladder and secondary peritonitis incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Reed, 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from colon and bladder cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Brad Renfro, 25, accidental heroin/morphine intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*George Reeves, 45, played Superman on the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Tate, 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, Terry Melcher (son of [[Doris Day]]) and Candice Bergen.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lou Tellegen, 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kenneth Williams, 62, overdose of barbiturates.&lt;br /&gt;
*Natalie Wood, 43. Drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Paula Yates, 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Layne Staley, 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 Alice in Chains song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, was HIV-positive and died of an epileptic seizure. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, perished of bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* the U.S. military &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/hollywood_gets_it_right_p4d84a9jyymsfLw0THb7EM Hollywood gets it right, New York Post, March 09, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioral boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Tourists in Hollywood can visit over 30 sites of typically self-inflicted Hollywood celebrity deaths.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.hollywoodusa.co.uk/celebrity-death-sites.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A sampling of deaths caused by Hollywood values include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*John Barrymore, 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*John Belushi, 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Clara Blandick, 81, suicide.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Bonham, 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit.&lt;br /&gt;
*Elisa Bridges, 28, 'Playboy' magazine model, drug overdose combining heroin, methamphetamine and other drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*David Carradine, 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Stephen Clark, 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lana Clarkson, 40, actress and model murdered by [[Phil Spector]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ray Combs, 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Costelloe, 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Bob Crane, 49, the actor's success led to a bizarre life of sex addiction. He was bludgeoned to death.&lt;br /&gt;
*Karl Dane, 47, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below).&lt;br /&gt;
*Eazy-E, 31, [[AIDS]] contracted through unprotected sex with female fans.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brian Epstein, 32, overdosed on Carbitral, used to treat insomnia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Farley, 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lucy Gordon, 28, British actress from the movie Spiderman 3, hung herself. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/wireStory?id=7642829 Actress Lucy Gordon Found Dead at Age 28 in Paris, ABC News, May 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Grivas, 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Corey Haim, 38, teen idol who starred in many movies and then a reality show, died of a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8560246.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Phil Hartman, 49, murdered in his sleep by his third wife Brynn Hartman, who was on cocaine and drunk.  She later committed suicide. &lt;br /&gt;
*Margaux Hemingway, 42, overdose of phenobarbital.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Hutchence, 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His lover, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*Richard Jeni, 49, suicide by gunshot due to severe clinical depression and psychotic paranoia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Janis Joplin, 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*Andrew Koenig, 41, child actor in the TV series Growing Pains committed suicide. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://omg.yahoo.com/news/andrew-koenigs-body-found-in-vancouver-park/36485?nc Andrew Koenig's Body Found in Vancouver Park, Yahoo News, February 25, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stuart Lubbock, 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer Michael Barrymore, having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddie Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sal Mineo, 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;, stabbed to death outside his apartment.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, acute barbiturate poisoning, thought by many to have been murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Keith Moon, drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, became addicted to heroin after depression, died of possible heroin overdose.  Lack of autopsy leaves unanswered questions.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brittany Murphy, 32, motion picture actress died of cardiac arrest cased by pneumonia, with secondary factors of iron-deficiency anemia and multiple drug intoxication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/02/27/brittany-murphy-taken-vicodin-days/ Brittany Murphy May Have Taken 109 Vicodin in 11 Days, Fox News, February 27, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Official death from pneumonia and drug intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Penn, 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], died accidentally of cardiomyopathy caused by an enlarged heart and promethazine and codeine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*River Phoenix, 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato, 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose after posing for lesbian pornography.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, listed as cardiac arrhythmia on the coroners report to cover up the true cause, a cocktail of ten prescribed drugs taken in massive doses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virginia Rappe, 30, died of a ruptured bladder and secondary peritonitis incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Reed, 59, actor known as Mike Brady was a homosexual with AIDS, died from colon and bladder cancer in 1992. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/08/14/brady-bunch?slide=25 Robert Reed in 1990, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Brad Renfro, 25, accidental heroin/morphine intoxication.&lt;br /&gt;
*George Reeves, 45, played Superman on the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Tate, 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, Terry Melcher (son of [[Doris Day]]) and Candice Bergen.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lou Tellegen, 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kenneth Williams, 62, overdose of barbiturates.&lt;br /&gt;
*Natalie Wood, 43. Drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Paula Yates, 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Layne Staley, 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 Alice in Chains song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Junkhead-lyrics-Alice-In-Chains/3A665DABDFC00AD54825688F0010CD45&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession. He is a libertarian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucllibertarians.com/celebrities.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who advocates marijuana use.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/dailydish/detail?blogid=7&amp;amp;entry_id=21457&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He was convicted of second-degree murder. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor Elmore &amp;quot;Rip&amp;quot; Torn was arrested for breaking into a bank and carrying a firearm while intoxicated. In 2009, he was given probation in a drunk-driving case. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/01/30/actor-rip-torn-arrested-allegedly-breaking-connecticut-bank/?test=latestnews Actor Rip Torn Arrested for Allegedly Breaking Into Connecticut Bank, Fox News, January 30, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former teen actor Leif Garrett was arrested for possession of a controlled substance. He has a number of former arrests including [[heroin]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/02/03/crimesider/entry6170622.shtml Leif Garrett Arrested: Former Teen Idol Busted for Controlled Substance, CBS News, February 3, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Penn]] was charged with criminal battery and vandalism for attacking the paparazzi in October 2009. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/19/sean-penn-crime-battery-vandalism-prosecution-jail-paparazzi/ Sean Penn Charged With Crimes, TMZ, February 19, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
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:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
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:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jude Law]] had a sexual relationship with model Samantha Burke that produced a daughter. It is reported that Law finally went to visit his daughter for the first time, 5 months after she was born. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jude-law-makes-first-visit-to-love-child-216056/ Jude Law Makes First Visit To Love Child, CelebrityGossip.net, March 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Tom Hanks]] called Mormons 'un-American' for their support of Proposition 8 in California. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/01/23/tom-hanks-apologizes-calling-mormon-supporters-proposition-american/ Tom Hanks Apologizes for Calling Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American', Fox News, January 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Downey Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/07/15/lovely-talented-khloe-kardashian?test=faces The youngest of the Kardashian gals decided flashing photographers was the best way to get some attention, FOX News, April 1, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood. It's not uncommon for the stars to act cool by cussing to the audience during acceptance speeches. These awards shows have become tawdry events that are marketed mostly to teens. &lt;br /&gt;
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*A notoriously self-serving [[Kayne West]] jumped onstage at the [[MTV Video Awards]] to interrupt an acceptance speech by Taylor Swift. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-15972-Raleigh-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2009m9d14-MTV-Video-Music-Awards-inspire-annual-controversy MTV Video Music Awards inspire annual controversy, Examiner.com, September 14, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mariah Carey]] attended the Palm Springs International Film Festival. Her acceptance speech was made while completely drunk. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://neonlimelight.com/2010/01/06/video-mariah-carey-accepts-film-festival-award-drunk/ Video: Mariah Carey Accepts Film Festival Award Drunk, Neonlimelight.com, January 6, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Miley Cyrus]] performed at the [[Teen Choice Awards]] in August 2009. The 16-year old was dancing around on a stripper pole. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619183/20090820/cyrus__miley.jhtml Billy Ray Cyrus Defends Miley's Teen Choice Pole Dance, MTV.com, August 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Actor [[Jack Black]] opened the 2009 MTV Video Awards by leading everyone in a prayer to [[satan]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christianpress.com/content/entertainment/11-lifestyle/360-jack-black-leads-a-prayer-to-the-devil-at-the-2009-mtv-awards satan Jack Black Leads A Prayer To The Devil At The 2009 MTV Awards, Christian Press, September 14, 2009 ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Lambert’s [[American Music Awards]] performance received over 1500 complaints for flipping off the audience, kissed a male keyboard player and fondled several of his backup dancers. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ecanadanow.com/entertainment/2009/11/28/did-you-find-adam-lamberts-american-music-awards-performance-offensive/comment-page-1/ Did You Find Adam Lambert’s American Music Awards Performance Offensive?, eCanadanow.com, November 28, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties and corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programs that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cesspit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Liberal Traits]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Social Problems]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Multiculturalism vs Particularism==&lt;br /&gt;
This article seems to imply that Conservatives reject multiculturalism as a whole. I changed the article to reflect that it's actually particularism that Christian Conservatives reject--it's hard to deny multiculturalism's beneficial impact on the country. Think of all the things we ''wouldn't'' have if it wasn't for the country's historic status as a melting pot: hamburgers and hotdogs (both of German origin), corn and crab dishes (of Native American origin), virtually all of the traditional cuisine of the American Southwest (a mixture of Texan and Mexican culture), and what we know today as Chinese food (really a mixture of American West Coast cuisine and traditional Chinese food). To be against multiculturalism is to be against America, which is why I altered the article. If anybody disagrees please say so here. -[[User:Ilikecake|Ilikecake]] 14:50, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn't have put it better myself.[[User:Lorddragyn|Lorddragyn]] 00:48, 6 February 2010 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Hollywood values''' are characterized by decadence, [[narcissism]], rampant [[drug|drug use]], [[adultery|extramarital sex]] leading to the spread of sexually-transmitted [[disease]], lawlessness and death.  A poll by MSNBC said that 60% of [[Americans]] agree that &amp;quot;Hollywood's values are not in line with the rest of America and that the quality of movies has diminished in recent years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11714540/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The lack of [[morals]] and [[values]] in [[Hollywood]] culture has been destroying the fabric of American culture, particularly the family.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been, however, a handful of prominent people whose work in Hollywood opposed these values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[James Stewart]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood and the productions of these and many others also reflect these values, irrespective of the star names associated with them: [[The Chronicles of Narnia]] and [[Independence Day]] being recent examples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood values include a flagrant disrespect and disregard for:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[marriage]] and [[abstinence]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[patriotism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[accountability]]&lt;br /&gt;
* family responsibilities, like childrearing&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Britney Spears]] &amp;quot;doesn't want [her] kids back.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/nationalnews/brit_doesnt_want_her_kids__1st_ex_97425.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* laws that apply to everyone else&lt;br /&gt;
* Commonly accepted behavioural boundaries and values of human decency&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deaths ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values are deadly.  Some examples include:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4174733&amp;amp;page=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_18845.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*John Barrymore, 60, cirrhosis of the liver from heavy drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*John Belushi, 33, was a repeated drug abuser who ultimately died of a lethal injection of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*Clara Blandick, 81, overdose of sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*John Bonham, 32, after too much drinking, asphyxiated on vomit&lt;br /&gt;
*David Carradine, 72, died from suffocation most likely suicide, had history of suicidal thoughts, alcohol and narcotics abuse &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525177,00.html Thai Police: Carradine Death May Be Accidental Suffocation] Fox News, June 05, 2009 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Stephen Clark, 30, Def Leppard guitarist, drug and alcohol overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1108020/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kurt Cobain]], 27, lead singer from the band Nirvana, a heroin addict who committed suicide with a shotgun blast to the head.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ray Combs, 40, host of the TV game show Family Feud committed suicide by hanging himself in a psychiatric ward.&lt;br /&gt;
*John Costelloe, 47, actor from HBO's The Sopranos known as &amp;quot;Johnny Cakes&amp;quot;, shot himself in the head. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,472864,00.html 'Sopranos' Actor Shocks Fans, Loved Ones With Holiday Suicide] NYPost, December 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Karl Dane, 47, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]], 24, auto accident (see also crime, below)&lt;br /&gt;
*Eazy-E, 31. [[AIDS]] contracted through drug use.&lt;br /&gt;
*Brian Epstein, 32, overdosed on sleeping pills and alcohol&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Farley, 33, overdose of morphine and cocaine&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Garland]], 47, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*Lee Grivas, 26, the on-again, off-again boyfriend of actress Christina Applegate, 36, was found dead of an apparent drug overdose&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloggernews.net/116552a&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Margaux Hemingway, 42, phenobarbitol overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimi Hendrix]], 27, an enthusiastic abuser of illegal drugs, choked on his own vomit after overdose of sleeping pills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rock Hudson]], 59, AIDS&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Hutchence, 37, asphyxiated during an auto-erotic act while alone in a Sydney hotel. His wife, Paula Yates (see below), also fell victim to Hollywood Values.&lt;br /&gt;
*Richard Jeni, 49, suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,258231,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Janis Joplin, 27, heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Ledger]], 28, found dead in his [[Manhattan]] apartment. &amp;quot;Prescription sleeping pills and anti-anxiety pills were found in bottles in Ledger's bedroom and bathroom, and police have speculated the death was caused by an accidental drug overdose.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328828,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bruce Lee]] (Li Xiaolong), actor, 33, collapsed and died; trace amounts of cannabis found in bloodstream at postmortem; the official cause of death was acute cerebral edema (swelling of the brain) from hypersensitivity to aspirin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Stuart Lubbock, 31, found dead in the swimming pool of popular TV entertainer Michael Barrymore, having suffered severe anal trauma, after a drug-fueled party at the star's home &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Queen (band)|Freddy Mercury]], 45, born Farrokh Bulsara, lead singer of the band Queen, died from AIDS-related bronchial pneumonia.&lt;br /&gt;
*Sal Mineo, 37, murdered under circumstances that suggested &amp;quot;a homosexual motive&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marilyn Monroe]], 36, overdosed on sleeping pills&lt;br /&gt;
*Keith Moon, drummer of [[The Who]], 32, overdose of Clomethiazole prescribed to treat his [[alcoholism]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Morrison]], 27, died of an apparent heroin overdose&lt;br /&gt;
*Brittany Murphy, 32, motion picture film actress died of cardiac arrest from combining prescription drugs &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.taragana.com/e/2009/12/23/brittany-murphy-autopsy-reports-available-73153/ Brittany Murphy Autopsy Reports Available, Entertainment Daily, December 23, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; performing since age 2 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20332146,00.html INSIDE STORY: Brittany Murphy's 'Inner Demons', People Magazine, December 21, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/20/brittany-murphy-dead/ Brittany Murphy Dead, Fox News, December 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Penn, 40, brother of [[Sean Penn]], &amp;quot;died accidentally from an enlarged heart and the effects of a mix of multiple medications&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/02/13/entertainment/e162146S51.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*River Phoenix, 23, died from an overdose of cocaine and heroin&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato, 34, ''Diff'rent Strokes'' star, suicide by drugs overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elvis Presley]], 42, large drug intake causes a cardiac arrhythmia and rumored to have suffocated on the carpet when he collapsed from a drug overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Virginia Rappe, 30, died of a ruptured bladder incurred at a party hosted by [[Roscoe Arbuckle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Brad Renfro, 25, became addicted to heroin and was found dead after a night of drinking&lt;br /&gt;
*George Reeves, 45, played Superman from the series Adventures of Superman, suicide by gunshot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anna Nicole Smith]], 39, accidental overdose on prescription drugs&lt;br /&gt;
*Sharon Tate, 26, an actress with a [[hippie]] lifestyle who was murdered by followers of [[Charles Manson]], a [[Beatles]]-obsessed musician wannabee; Manson's followers murdered Tate, who was pregnant and only two weeks from birth, her unborn child, her prior lover, who was staying with her while her husband, movie producer [[Roman Polanski]] (see 'Crime', below), was away, and another unmarried couple staying in the house.  (It is believed that Manson had actually intended his followers to kill the home's previous residents, Terry Melcher (son of [[Doris Day]]) and Candice Bergen.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Polanski Problem [http://moviegeeksclub.blogspot.com/2008/04/polanski-problem.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sharon Tate Official Site: Sharon's Biography [http://www.sharontate.net/bio4.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lou Tellegen, 52, suicide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sid Vicious]], 21. [[Heroin]] overdose while awaiting trial for his girlfriend's murder.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kenneth Williams, 62, overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Natalie Wood, 43. Drowned while intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Paula Yates, 41, heroin overdose.&lt;br /&gt;
*Layne Staley, 34, found dead in apartment two weeks after a drug overdose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/staley1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Layne promoted the use of hard drugs in the 1992 Alice in Chains song &amp;quot;Junkhead&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lyricsfreak.com/a/alice+in+chains/junkhead_20005869.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
The loose sexual morals characteristic of the lifestyle defined by Hollywood Values often lead to sexually transmitted diseases.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rock Hudson]] died of AIDS-related complications after contracting the disease through homosexual intercourse.&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Jeter, who was homosexual, also died due to AIDS-related complications. &lt;br /&gt;
* Freddie Mercury of the rock group [[Queen (band)|Queen]], notorious for his flamboyant onstage presence, also contracted AIDS through his wildly promiscuous homosexual lifestyle, and subsequently perished of the self-inflicted condition.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Crime ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often include being arrested or convicted for a variety of crimes.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Actress Lori Petty, who was featured in &amp;quot;Free Willy&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A League of their Own&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Free Willy,&amp;quot; ran into a 14-year-old skateboarder and was arrested for felony drunk driving charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015343906&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Craig Phillip Robinson, the actor famous for playing Darryl Philbin on NBC's &amp;quot;The Office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;was arrested on June 29, 2008, on suspicion of possessing MDMA, also known as ecstasy, and methamphetamine.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/15/office.actor.arrested.ap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Winona Ryder]] was convicted of convicted of vandalism and grand theft for stealing designer merchandise worth $5,560.40.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.courttv.com/trials/ryder/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[O.J. Simpson]] is widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend, and was found liable in a civil (but not criminal) trial.  He has since been convicted of unrelated felonies.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paris Hilton]] was convicted of driving while intoxicated, and then violated the terms of her probation, leading to a 45-day prison sentence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18472845/ Paris Hilton sentenced to 45 days in jail], MSNBC, May 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hugh Grant]] was arrested in 1995 when found in a car with a prostitute.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mugshots.org/hollywood/hugh-grant.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stacy Keach]], movie actor, was sentenced to 9 months imprisonment in the [[United Kingdom]] in 1984 after being arrested at [[London]] [[Heathrow Airport]] in possession of a large quantity of [[cocaine]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kiefer Sutherland]] was given a 48-day sentence for DUI in 2007, an offense committed while still on probation following a 2004 conviction for DUI.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sutherland is released from jail [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7200633.stm BBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Michael]] was convicted of &amp;quot;Committing a lewd act in public&amp;quot;, having been arrested in a public restroom by a plain clothes police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Police confirm George Michael arrest [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/75904.stmBBC]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Arrested in September 2008 in a [[London]] public lavatory, he was found in possession of crack cocaine and cannabis - but merely received a caution. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKLL28201720080921&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snoop Dogg]], a popular [[rap|rapper]], was arrested in 2006 for [[marijuana]] possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roman Polanski]], Polish-born film producer, is unable to return to Hollywood as he skipped bail and fled to [[France]] after being convicted in 1978 on charges of unlawful sexual intercourse with a thirteen-year old girl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Rapper DMX (Earl Simmons) was caught on camera drag racing at a speed over 110 miles on a freeway, and then a SWAT team was used to arrest him three days later on drug and animal cruelty charges.  &amp;quot;The Maricopa County sheriff's office says the 37-year-old, whose real name is Earl Simmons, at first tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He came out as a SWAT team entered during the early-morning raid Friday.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.aol.com/entertainment/music/music-news-story/ar/_a/dmx-arrested-on-animal-cruelty-charges/20080509163709990001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tatum O'Neal]] arrested in 2008 for [[cocaine]] possession. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,361361,00.html Tatum O'Neal Released After Drug Arrest], [[Associated Press]], ''[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]'', June 02, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Dean]] displayed an unhealthy interest in a twelve-year-old boy. His former director Elia Kazan later commented: &amp;quot;I've known many actors who have been twisted up in their sex lives, but never anybody as sick and unhealthy as Dean was.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*Redmond O'Neal, son of Farrah Fawcett and Ryan O'Neal, plead guilty to possessing heroine and methamphetamine as well as driving under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_en_ot/people_redmond_o_neal;_ylt=AiQCBwpJpxqBOFWVyqEycXsDW7oF Redmond O'Neal pleads guilty to drug charges&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Actor]] Nick Nolte was arrested for drunk driving in 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/nolte1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sean Bean]] was arrested and spent the night in a cell after allegedly beating his wife.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hR3pX0eEytJcMo7m5LRLHOYpasSA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shelley Malil]], 43, worked as an actor in [[movies]] and television. He is charged with causing great bodily injury and using a deadly weapon on Kendra Beebe, a 35-year-old [[mother]] of two. He appeared on the back patio of Kendra's house and stabbed her 20 times. Now held on a $10 million dollar bond. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug13/0,4670,ActorArrested,00.html 40-Year-Old Virgin' actor pleads not guilty] AP, August 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Former Power Rangers actor [[Skylar Deleon]], will have three separate trials for four murders. The first trial is set for the murder of Tom and Jackie Hawks, who were allegedly bound to the anchor of their yacht and tossed overboard. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,433765,00.html 'Power Rangers' Actor Set to Stand Trial in Yacht Killings] AP, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  he was sentenced to death for committing murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&amp;amp;SubSectionID=1&amp;amp;ArticleID=66850&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician George O'Dowd, better known by his stage name, [[Boy George]], has been convicted (and will likely go to prison) for handcuffing a male escort to a bed against his will and then beating him with a chain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092168/Guilty-Boy-George-warned-judge-faces-jail-falsely-imprisoning-male-escort.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Earlier he had been convicted of cocaine possession.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dana Plato was arrested for armed robbery and prescription forgery.&lt;br /&gt;
*Todd Bridges assaulted a motorist and was repeatedly arrested for drug-related offenses.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gary Coleman was arrested for assaulting a woman by punching her in the face.&lt;br /&gt;
*Musician/Producer [[Phil Spector]] was found guilty of second-degree murder for the shooting death of actress Lana Clarkson. He could be jailed for up to 18 years. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30194936/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Kiefer Sutherland, Fox television's &amp;quot;24&amp;quot; star was charged with misdemeanor assault for allegedly head-butting a fashion designer at a nightclub. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=47880 ‘24’ Star Kiefer Sutherland Charged for Allegedly Head-Butting a Fashion Designer] Associated Press, May 8, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Falsehoods ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hollywood values]] perpetuates [[liberal]]-driven [[Essay:Liberal Falsehoods|falsehoods]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Matthew Shepard Fallacy&lt;br /&gt;
:Adherents to Hollywood values &amp;quot;green-lighted a troika of [[Matthew Shepard]] movies after he was senselessly killed because it affirmed their gut feeling that a gay young man living in backward America is destined for death at the hands of hateful ultraconservatives. A street in West Hollywood still stands in his name despite ABC News reporting the story false: He was killed by crazed meth addicts for drugs and money -- not because he was gay. Isn't that tragic enough?  Yet Shepard is still the icon of gay victims' rights, and the mistaken story of his 'fate' soon thereafter befell Jake Gyllenhaal's character in 'Brokeback Mountain.' The Oscar statuette stands as the exclamation point.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-dustup26sep26,0,1800794,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Inherit the Wind]] &lt;br /&gt;
:Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] in order to smear Christianity, including:&lt;br /&gt;
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:*portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists&lt;br /&gt;
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:*falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful&lt;br /&gt;
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:In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[U 571]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2000 film [[U 571]] had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in [[World War 2]].  However, in the film the capture is made by Americans.  In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Recount]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the [[Republicans]] stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hbos-recount-hanging-chads-and-black-humor/ HBO’s Recount: Hanging Chads, Black Humor] The Washington Times, May 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Winter Soldiers]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in [[Vietnam]] and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[An Inconvenient Truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
:The 2006 false documentary about man-made [[global warming]] created &amp;amp; hyped by [[Al Gore]]. A [[British]] court found the film contained at least [http://www.conservapedia.com/Global_warming#Al_Gore.27s_.22Inconvenient_Truth.22_Movie_Claims 11 material falsehoods]. The Science and Public Policy Institute has found 35 falsehoods associated with the film. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html 35 Inconvenient Truths, Science and Public Policy Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Fahrenheit 911]]&lt;br /&gt;
:A [[Michael Moore]] film that was a false portrayal of why America fought a war against [[Saddam Hussein]]'s Iraq. The main theme was to attack [[George W. Bush]] during wartime.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Disrespect for marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many celebrities and other exponents of Hollywood Values have no respect for the sanctity of marriage - their own or anyone else's. This is manifested in a high rate of marriage breakdown, and by the home-wrecking activities of the promiscuous, whose moral outlooks have been distorted by Liberal and atheistic teachings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Elizabeth Taylor]] has been married eight (8) times, including a nearly 6-year marriage to [[John Warner|Senator John Warner]] (R-VA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000072/bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Valerie Bertinelli]] said her divorce from [[Eddie Van Halen]] was caused by infidelity and drug use - by her too. She said she was &amp;quot;destroying my body,&amp;quot; trying to keep up with a rock-star lifestyle. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332551,00.html Valerie Bertinelli About Divorce From Eddie Van Halen: 'I Wasn't An Angel Either'], [[Fox News Channel]], ''[[Associated Press]]'', February 26, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Zsa Zsa Gabor]] has been married nine (9) times.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mickey Rooney]] has been married eight (8) times, but has been with his last wife for 30 years after embracing religion and abandoning his previous lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Chaplin]] married four (4) times, including his marriage at the age of 54 to an 18-year-old bride.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Johnny Carson]] married four (4) times, and frequently made light of his having divorced three times, as if this were something funny.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Meredith Baxter]] married and divorced four (4) times; she finally admitted in 2009 that she was a [[homosexual]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Offensive Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Trashing hotel rooms is a favorite form of offensive behavior by Hollywood types.  Many examples are readily available on the [[internet]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://www.budgettravel.com/bt-dyn/content/article/2007/12/21/AR2007122101034.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mel Gibson]], who had started drinking again, was arrested after being stopped for driving at 84 mph in a 45 mph zone on a notoriously dangerous road in Malibu, California.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Mel Gibson apologizes after DUI arrest'' [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14080210/ Associated Press]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A breathalyzer test confirmed he was drunk and next to him was an open bottle of Tequila; after being arrested he hurled Anti-Semitic abuse at a Jewish police officer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2292336,00.html Mel Gibson rants against Jews in drink-drive arrest], Times Online, July 30, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of [[Miley Cyrus]], just 15 years old, allowed [[Annie Liebowitz]] to pose the starlet without a shirt or bra (nominally [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/topless &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot;]) and with just a sheet covering her front for Vanity Fair magazine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/business/media/28hannah.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20195785,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23608789-5001026,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed,&amp;quot; Cyrus said Sunday in a statement through her publicist. &amp;quot;I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;... a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines,&amp;quot; a network statement said. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many Hollywood stars who have purposely sought fame have then turned upon photographers and fans. [[Sean Penn]] is well known to lash out at photographers.&lt;br /&gt;
*The parents of 16-year old Jamie Lynn Spears allowing her unwed pregnancy to be publicly portrayed as a normal act even though she is a role model for millions of underage teenagers. Mayor of Gloucester, Carolyn Kirk recently blamed the glamorizing of teen pregnancy by Jamie Lynn Spears for the 17 high school teenagers that got pregnant at the same time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/gloucester_mayo.html Gloucester mayor rebuts report of teen pregnancy pact], June 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite an upcoming ballot initiative to remove gay marriage from California law, [[Ellen DeGeneres]] proudly displays her [[gay]] sexuality for all to see. On August 16, 2008, DeGeneres &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; Portia de Rossi in a small ceremony in Beverly Hills. Fox News called it &amp;quot;the biggest celebrity union since California legalized same-sex marriage.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,405085,00.html Reports: Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi Wed] AP, August 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Now, her fans and millions of young girls can read about her gay marriage in magazines such as People and Us Magazine, hear about it on celebrity news television shows.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper [[Kanye West]] and bodyguard attacked the paparazzi at [[LAX]] airport and allegedly smashed a camera on the floor valued at $10,000. The pair were arrested for felony vandalism. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420869,00.html Kanye West Arrested in Altercation With Paparazzi] Ap, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heather Locklear]] was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of a controlled substance. The officer noticed Locklear's car parked on a state highway and blocking a lane in Montecito, Ca. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429388,00.html Heather Locklear Arrested on Suspicion of DUI] AP, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charlie Sheen]] was arrested on Christmas Day for domestic abuse of his current wife Brooke. He was booked for  second-degree assault, menacing, and criminal mischief. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2009/12/25/actor-charlie-sheen-arrested-domestic-violence-charges/?test=faces Actor Charlie Sheen Released From Jail After Domestic Abuse Arrest, Fox News, December 25, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sheen has a history that includes assaults against girlfriends and his former wife.&lt;br /&gt;
*Celebrity of the moment [[Kourtney Kardashian]] gave a risque lingerie shoot while pregnant with her boyfriend's child. After birth, Mom and baby adorned magazine covers, highlighting the modern acceptance of single motherhood. The cover reads ''&amp;quot;Baby Mason will bring our family together,&amp;quot;'' obscuring the traditional meaning of family. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/entertainment/2009/10/16/kardashian-sisters?slide=2 The Kardashian Family, Fox News]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Comedian [[Andy Dick]] was arrested for groping an employee and a patron of a nightclub in West Virginia. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.herald-dispatch.com/breaking/x818845820/Andy-Dick-arrested-by-HPD Andy Dick charged with felony, shows still on, Herald Dispatch, January 23, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rehab ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hollywood values often result in [[Celebrity|celebrities]] going into rehab. Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Kirsten Dunst]] checked into the [[Cirque Lodge]] treatment facility in [[Utah]] after a week of hard partying at the [[Sundance Film Festival]], according to a source at the lodge, although the lodge's director of operations denies this. &amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329545,00.html Reports Say Kirsten Dunst in Rehab; Rep for Facility Denies It], ''[[Fox News]]'', February 08, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following all checked into the above facility seeking treatment for various psychological problems:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Lindsay Lohan]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eva Mendes]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mary-Kate Olsen]]&amp;lt;ref name = &amp;quot;foxkirsten&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Courtney Love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Heather Locklear]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;A spokeswoman for the 47-year-old star said: 'Heather has been dealing with anxiety and depression.'&amp;quot;  She &amp;quot;checked into a clinic in [[Arizona]] that treats depression.&amp;quot;[http://www.pnas.org/content/101/11/3721.full]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[David Duchovny]], having boosted Hollywood Values through his role in a decadent television series, now finds himself trapped by the depravity that he promoted, and has had to enter rehab for his addiction to unchastity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2835847820080829&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hollywood personalities often propose legislation such as outlawing private gun ownership, or speak out against things such as anti-gun laws, but have at the same time acted in movies contrary to their public opinions: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[George Clooney]] on hearing that fellow actor and gun-rights advocate, [[Charlton Heston]], suffers from Alzheimer's disease, said: ''&amp;quot;I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the [[National Rifle Association]]. He deserves whatever anyone says about him.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funnyreign.com/quotes-georgeclooney.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Clooney starred in the film ''The Peacemaker'', in which he played an American military man defending the country from a nuclear attack; scenes in the film showed him using a gun to defend himself and others.   &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mark Wahlberg]] upon meeting Charlton Heston on the set of the remake of ''Planet of the Apes'', Wahlberg rudely told Heston, &amp;quot;It was very disturbing meeting you.&amp;quot; Later, Wahlberg would have this to say at the MTV Movie Awards: ''&amp;quot;I believe Charlton Heston is America's best villain because he loves guns so much. Maybe he should get the award for being president of the National Rifle Association.&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2360&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wahlberg's character in ''Planet of the Apes'' uses a gun to defend himself and other humans from the apes who would rule over them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Helen Mirren]] played Queen Elizabeth II in a movie 'The Queen', but [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,414361,00.html admits she used to use cocaine and was date-raped] as a result of her poor life choices as a younger woman.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Moral depravity==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Woody Allen]] seduced and took pornographic photographs of the youthful daughter of his then girlfriend [[Mia Farrow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Using appearances to promote their [[liberal]] political views==&lt;br /&gt;
*Rapper Kanye West infamously went way off script during a live benefit concert for victims of Hurricane Katrina, criticizing the media's treatment of images of black and white people and saying President [[George W. Bush]] &amp;quot;doesn't care about black people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During the live broadcast of the 2007 Emmy Awards, actress Sally Field went on a sputtering anti-war rant, eventually concluding by saying, &amp;quot;If the mothers ruled the world, there would be no g**d*** war in the first place.&amp;quot;  She received thunderous applause from the Hollywood audience for her vulgar remark.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=3610891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Moore]] surprised no one by criticizing President Bush during his 2003 Oscar acceptance speech for &amp;quot;Bowling for Columbine,&amp;quot; saying, &amp;quot;We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who's sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/features/20030323-2028-oscars-moore.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Jessica Lange verbally attacked President Bush and the Iraq War during a 2008 commencement speech at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers, New York, stating, &amp;quot;We are living in an America that, in the last seven and a half years, has waged an unnecessary war, established prison camps, condoned torture, employed corporate armies, eliminated the right of habeas corpus, practiced extraordinary rendition, and believe me, this is only a partial list.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs5.com/politics/Jessica.Lange.President.2.732264.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Actress Megan Fox was recently quoted by MSN in a piece entitled &amp;quot;The Wit and Wisdom of Megan Fox&amp;quot; discussing her new movie Transformers 2. She said &amp;quot;why not just take out all of the white trash, hillbilly, anti-gay, super bible-beating people in Middle America?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=559876 Megan Fox would barter using ‘Bible-beating white trash’]OneNewsNow.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Vanity and [[Idol]] Worship==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hollywood]] places a value on appearance and it is driven into the minds of those who they seek profits and adulation from. There is such the need to be rich and famous that anything goes. It may be glamorizing to reveal skin or shamelessly being sex symbols to audiences. Pat-your-back awards ceremonies whereby we breathlessly await the ''Stars'' to arrive. Naturally, scandals make big headlines and these people are no stranger to controversy, for [[money]]. These fake [[Gods]] have captured the hearts of millions upon millions who follow their every move. Negative stereotypes poison the minds of their followers. Women feel less worthy due to the overwhelming influence touching every part of society. Penn State's Media Research found the following regarding Women's magazines, &amp;quot;Past research indicates that exposure to thin models results in lower [[self-esteem]] and decreased weight satisfaction, and to increased depression, guilt, shame, [[stress]], insecurity and body dissatisfaction.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.psu.edu/dept/medialab/research/selfworth.html Construction of Beauty as a Measure of Self-Worth] Penn State Media Research&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Award Shows==&lt;br /&gt;
Fans of Hollywood are served copious amounts of vanity and glamour as celebrities are greeted on the red-carpet attending award events. Paparazzi snap pictures and the stars are rated for their appearance in various tabloids and entertainment television. Once the celebrities have arrived at the awards, television cameras capture for the masses acceptance speeches of their beloved stars. Once limited to couple of banquets such as the [[Emmy Award|Emmys]] or [[Golden Globe]]s, now some two-dozen award shows are vying for exposure. These new award shows offer glimpses into ego and moral depravity of Hollywood: Viacom's MTV Awards, for example, is a shameless event in which performers display lewd acts, give speeches while drunk, and almost always cuss.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Preying on Underage Stars==&lt;br /&gt;
Debbie Gibson reflects on her life as a sixteen-year-old teenage Pop star and her exposure to the very sinister side of show business. “It is very disheartening that there are so many older men that prey on young performers.”  What is even more disturbing than dirty male fans would be older male record executives trying to take her to adult parties, corrupt her with alcohol. Even the way the paparazzi stalk the younger artists is very different from following around adults. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533542,00.html?test=faces Debbie Gibson Speaks Out About Pedophile Fans Wanting to 'Corrupt Little Girls' Fox News, July 17, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
The diseased moral values of the Liberal-dominated entertainments industry are manifested all too clearly in many of the products of that industry - motion pictures and television programmes that offer no edification or instruction to the viewer, but plumb a cess-pit of license and depravity. Some recent examples include the television series ''Desperate Housewives'' and the TV series/movie ''[[Sex and the City]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Books==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Against America''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon'' (1965) by Kenneth Anger (US edition)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hollywood Babylon II'' (1984) by Kenneth Anger&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Supermodel]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[World Famous Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ic_Q3agTpruvzoCJ5UxWaAqGJW3A Bush attacks 'Hollywood values'], ''AFP'', Oct 1, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/index.html Mug-shots of arrested Hollywood stars]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Liberalism}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Traits]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Social Problems]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Buffalo</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:For the City of Buffalo, New York, click [[Buffalo, New York|here]].&lt;br /&gt;
:For an interesting quirk of the English language, click [[Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo. | here]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{uncited}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bison.jpg|400px|thumb|right|North American bison]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Buffalo''' is a term for several somewhat-related [[species]], cousins to the domestic [[cow]]; the most famous variant of buffalo are the North American Bison, which had reached dangerously low population levels due to over-hunting by the mid-Twentieth Century but which have since begun to slowly rebound.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Ruminants]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Batman</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:ARoss Batman.png|right|300px|thumb|''Batman'', by Alex Ross]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Batman''' is a fictional [[superhero]] first appearing in ''Detective Comics'' in May, 1939.  The creation of artist Bob Kane and writer Bill Finger, Batman remains one of the most famous and recognizable of the superhero genre, resulting in the creation of several television series, motion pictures, and graphic novels.  The original comics are highly-prized by collectors and routinely fetch hundreds of thousands of dollars on the auction block.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Comics lore==&lt;br /&gt;
The man who was to become Batman is Bruce Wayne, a Gotham City socialite who inherited his wealth from his father, a prominent doctor and philanthropist named Thomas Wayne.  A trip to the movies with the family ended in tragedy: Thomas and his wife Martha are murdered by a common thug in front of Bruce, whose childhood effectively ends at the age of eight.  &lt;br /&gt;
Wayne's anger at his parent's murder causes him to vow revenge against the criminal element in all of its forms.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Growing up in the care of his father's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, he inherits a vast fortune, his father's business and philanthropic empire. &lt;br /&gt;
Wayne uses his wealth to travel the world during his teenage years, seeking out instruction from experts in various fields including martial arts, chemistry, psychology, forensics, meditation and engineering among other things. He returns to his home of Gotham city and is nearly killed as he attempts to stop a robbery. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While recovering in his study at Wayne Manor, Bruce Wayne's brooding is disturbed by a bat as it crashes through the window of his room. He reflects, &amp;quot;Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The bat inspires Wayne to create an alter ego for himself, one that will create fear and panic in those he targets, he decides to become the Batman. Wayne fashions himself a costume and arms himself with a small arsenal of bat related weapons and gear, specifically shunning guns. The refusal of Wayne to use guns stems not only from his professed belief that they are tools of the weak and cowardly, but also from a psychological block against them due to the one used in his parents' murder. In the last issue of the DC series Final Crises, Batman overcomes his disdain of guns and uses a special bullet to mortally wound the villain Darkseid. Batman is seemingly killed by Darkseid in the process and as of yet his fate is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Batman is unusual for superheroes in that he has no superhuman powers, though he is certainly an unusually gifted human being: an athlete who would &amp;quot;win or place&amp;quot; in any Olympic event, master of a dizzying array of martial arts forms, genius detective and capable scientist, and a billionaire to top it off.  Despite this, he uses his brains, training, and resources to not only keep up but excel in comparison with many heroes with great superpowers, a testament to man's will in the face of adversity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Publication history==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:87 4 000027.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Detective Comics'' number 27, the first appearence of Batman]]&lt;br /&gt;
Vin Sullivan was the publisher of National Periodical (the forerunner of DC Comics), and during the end of the 1930's was basking in the success of [[Superman]], the first true comic book superhero; Sullivan was looking for another such character to publish.  The ''Detective Comics'' series would soon provide him with one, a costumed hero no less, having great intellect but without Superman's strength.  Bob Kane, influenced by [[Sherlock Holmes]], [[Zorro]], a recent comic character called &amp;quot;The Shadow&amp;quot;, the sketches of Leonardo Da Vinci, and a film titled ''The Bat'', came up with a character in a gray suit, black boots, and a black cape and cowl; the creation was called ''the Bat-Man''.  The drawings were taken to artist/writer Bill Finger, and by May 1939 an excited Sullivan published the character in a story called &amp;quot;The Case of the Chemical Syndicate,&amp;quot; part of several stories in ''Detective Comics'' issue number 27, which became an immediate and successful hit.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By November of that year, Batman's origin story - the murder of his parents - was set; this storyline of a boy growing up to avenge his parents struck a chord with readers, and sales of the comics grew.  The following year he appeared in his own series under the &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; name - published alongside ''Detective Comics'' - which also introduced &amp;quot;Robin, the Boy Wonder&amp;quot;, a successful attempt to gain younger readers as well as creating the popularity of the &amp;quot;sidekick&amp;quot; in the comics industry; Green Arrow and Speedy, the Human Torch and Toro, and [[Captain America]] and Bucky would be prime examples of this trend.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The combination of Bob Kane and Bill Finger (Finger was largely uncredited after Batman's creation) in the early-1940's also introduced to the comics world several of the most recognizable villians in fiction.  Created were &amp;quot;Two-Face&amp;quot;, a scarred villian reportedly based upon [[Robert Louis Stevenson]]'s ''[[Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]]''; the &amp;quot;Cat&amp;quot;, a sensuous woman who became better known as &amp;quot;Catwoman&amp;quot;; and the &amp;quot;[[Joker (comics)|Joker]]&amp;quot; - which Kane based upon the image he saw of actor Conrad Veidt in the silent film ''The Man Who Laughs'' - a nightmarish version of a clown who is the antithesis of everything Batman is, and who became one of the best known villians in fiction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Film and television==&lt;br /&gt;
The first dramatic appearance of Batman appeared as a reoccurring guest star on the &amp;quot;Superman&amp;quot; radio series. Interestingly, during the initial story line, Batman and Robin didn't interact with Superman, but Clark Kent.   Batman's young side-kick, &amp;quot;Robin&amp;quot;, was created specifically as an exposition device, desperately needed in radio.  Although a pilot episode was recorded, Batman never received his own radio series.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Film serials====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman 1943.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Lewis Wilson as Batman and Douglas Croft as Robin from the 1943 12-chapter serial ''Batman'' (copyright 1943 Columbia Pictures)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman-west-ward.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Adam West and Burt Ward as Batman and Robin, from the 1966 television series ''Batman'' (copyright 1966 William Dozier/20th Century Fox)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Quiz1053outcome1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Michael Keaton in the 1992 film ''Batman Returns'' (copyright 1992 Warner Brothers)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dead end batman.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Clark Bartram in the 2003 Collora fan-film ''Batman: Dead End'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman-begins01.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Batman (Christian Bale) interrogating in his own way a corrupt police detective in the film ''Batman Begins'' (copyright 2005 Legendary Films/Warner Brothers)]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first film dealing with the Caped Crusader was a 1943 12-chapter serial from Columbia Pictures starring Lewis Wilson and Douglas Croft as Batman and Robin.  The plot of the film centered on a nefarious, stereotypical Asian scientist, Dr. Daka (J. Carrol Naish), who has a plan to steal valuable resources from the United States in order to support the Axis during the World War II.  Although low-budget, ''Batman'' introduced the concept of the Batcave (called the &amp;quot;Bat's Cave&amp;quot; in the film) and the hidden entry to it, as well as altering the appearance of Alfred from a portly servant to a leaner, robust individual.  ''Batman and Robin'' would follow it in 1949, also as a serial, starring Robert Lowery and Johnny Duncan (Muir, 9; 72)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====''Batman'' television series====&lt;br /&gt;
In January 1966, ABC released a &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; television series starring Adam West and Burt Ward.  During the series pre-production, there was a heated debate over which direction the Caped Crusader should be taken.  Eventually, Producer William Dozier's vision won out - &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; would be a high budgeted, camp series which often made the character more droll than stern.   This portrayal of the character, while it was in line with the comics of the time, came in later years to be reviled by fans, particularly during the '80s and '90s.  During the summer of 1966, Dozier unleased a &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; feature film, also starring Adam West.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although the series caught on quickly, its ratings fell just as suddenly.  During the series' third season, Yvonne Craig was hired to portray &amp;quot;Batgirl&amp;quot;, but this did nothing to slow the ratings plunge.  The last few episode of &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; were among the lowest rated television series of the 60s.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For decades after, the &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; television series defined the filmed comic book template, which can be seen feature films such as &amp;quot;[[Doc Savage]]&amp;quot; and the television productions of &amp;quot;The Justice League&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Spirit&amp;quot;.  In 1978 Adam West and Burt Ward would both be reunited in the two-part television special &amp;quot;The Legend of the Superheroes&amp;quot;, in which Batman and Robin were part of a group of DC superheroes thwarting the attempts of a rival collection of villains to take over the world in a combination of camp and comedy; the second part of the special has both groups in a celebratory roast by Ed McMahon.  The camp-template was broken with the success of 1978's &amp;quot;[[The Incredible Hulk]]&amp;quot; starring [[Bill Bixby]], and based on the character owned by rival publisher [[Marvel Comics]].  Meanwhile, the course of the character in the comics since 1973 had returned him to his darker roots as writers and artists placed him in more compelling storylines and situations, culminating in 1986's four-part ''The Dark Knight Returns'' by Frank Miller, a work which helped influence director Tim Burton prior to putting Batman on the big screen once more.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Early animation====&lt;br /&gt;
Batman also found a new home on Saturday mornings, courtesy of the Filmation and Hanna-Barbera studios.  In 1968, Batman appeared with Superman in Filmation's &amp;quot;Batman/Superman Hour&amp;quot;, a program divided into individual shorts featuring &amp;quot;Dragnet&amp;quot; character-actor Olan Soule as the voice of Batman, and radio disk jockey Casey Kasem as Robin.  The following year the show would be cut to thirty minutes, with just the Batman shorts in Filmation's newly-titled &amp;quot;Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder&amp;quot;, also lasting a year.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hanna-Barbera created the &amp;quot;Superfriends&amp;quot; in 1973, again using Soule and Kasem for voice work, and placed Batman and Robin alongside Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman in a &amp;quot;hall of justice&amp;quot; as the team fought minor villains around the world with a built-in moral message for children watching it.  The &amp;quot;Superfriends&amp;quot; proved a success, ultimately spinning off several creations through the early-1980s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Tim Burton films====&lt;br /&gt;
''Batman'' film took a darker turn in 1989, when the [[Tim Burton]]-directed [[Batman (film, 1989)|film]], starring [[Michael Keaton]], portrayed Bruce Wayne as a reclusive, quirky billionaire who probably was not entirely sane.  While at first wary of an actor known primarily for comedies playing Batman, some fans ended up going to other movies before its release just to see the trailer for the Batman film, and then walked out, not even watching the movie they paid for.  The film was a success, and was widely-lauded for [[Jack Nicholson]]'s portrayal of Batman's nemesis, the Joker.  It was followed up with 1992's ''Batman Returns'', which, while not as well-reviewed or successful, was still accepted by the fans, and brought the iconic figures of Catwoman and the Penguin into the movie universe.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tim Burton was replaced with Joel Schumacher for the third Batman movie in the new movie canon, ''Batman Forever'' (1995), which introduced Robin (Batman's iconic sidekick), and the villains the Riddler and Two-Face.  Whereas Burton had tried for a more dark and Gothic look, Schumacher went with bright neon colors and brought back some of the camp of the '60s TV series.  The movie did well at the box office, but received mixed reviews.  The fourth and final film of this &amp;quot;universe&amp;quot; was ''Batman and Robin'', released in 1997.  Widely regarded as the worst of the series by fan and critic alike, ''Batman and Robin'' returned fully to the campy tone of the TV series, featuring &amp;quot;candy-coated&amp;quot; sets, poor special effects, weirder science than normal from Bat-Media, character derailment, and Arnold Schwarzennegger, as the lead villain Mr. Freeze, with barely 100 lines of dialogue, over half of which centered around cold-themed puns.  This film was reviled for years as having &amp;quot;killed&amp;quot; the franchise, and performed relatively poorly in ticket sales.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The tone of the new movies influenced the 1991 critically-acclaimed ''Batman: The Animated Series'', a cartoon shown at first in prime time.  Some of its takes on certain villains - such as Mr. Freeze - became iconic, and it introduced several characters that eventually &amp;quot;immigrated&amp;quot; to the comics, such as Detective Renee Montoya, and the Joker's hench-girlfriend, Harley Quinn.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Sandy Collora short====&lt;br /&gt;
Attempting to get attention for his directing skills, Sandy Collora spent $30,000 dollars to create a demonstration reel strictly for the fans.  The result was the 2003 short ''Batman: Dead End'', a film which drew on the imagery of comic artist Alex Ross, in addition to previously-published work by Dark Horse Comics, which pitted Batman against the Alien and Predator from the Hollywood films of the same names.  Starring Clark Bartram as Batman and Andrew Koenig as an escaped Joker, the film earned critical praise from comic veterans and fans alike.[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/tech/nextnews/archive/next030807.htm][http://www.collorastudios.com/projects/bde/bdemain.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Christopher Nolan films====&lt;br /&gt;
The film series was rebooted again in 2005, with ''Batman Begins'', a grittier, more &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; take on Batman.  In this film, director Christopher Nolan took Bruce Wayne, played by Christian Bale, halfway around the world in search of the answer to the riddle of criminality.  He learns to fight multiple opponents, conceal himself, and gains the will to act in defense of others.  Returning to Gotham after being declared legally dead, he deftly maneuvers himself back into the control of his murdered father's company and resolves to terrify the criminal element by making himself seem inhuman...and chooses the mantle of a bat, because bats scare ''him''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Several critically-acclaimed comic book stories - among them ''The Long Halloween'' and ''The Killing Joke'' - were used as in the most recent entry in Nolan's series, ''The Dark Knight'', which has thus far exceeded all expectations.  Almost universally lauded by critics and shattering numerous box-office records, ''The Dark Knight'' featured the final performance of [[Heath Ledger]], who died from a drug overdose after filming, as a monstrous version of the Joker, a psychotic who thinks the only sane way to live is without rules and wants to prove it to the world - and at the same time gave artists and writers who penned the Batman stories the version of the Joker they thought was closest to their own.  Though the tone at the start of the film is hopeful - Batman has inspired citizens to stand up for themselves again and has organized crime in the city reeling - it quickly spirals downward, embodying the theme that Nolan chose for the movie: things have to get worse before they get better.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
*Kane, Bob (with Tom Andrae).  ''Batman &amp;amp; Me'', Eclipse Books, Forestville, California (1989).&lt;br /&gt;
*Goulart, Ron.  ''Comic Book Encyclopedia'', Harper Entertainment, New York (2004). &lt;br /&gt;
*Muir, John Kenneth.  ''The Encyclopedia of Superheroes on Film and Television'', McFarland &amp;amp; Company, Jefferson, North Carolina (2004)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.collorastudios.com/projects/bde/bdemain.htm Collora Studios: ''Batman: Dead End'']&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsLQcOV2YeU ''The Man Who Laughs'', uploaded to YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: DC Comics Superheroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Comic Characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:ARoss Batman.png|right|300px|thumb|''Batman'', by Alex Ross]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Batman''' is a fictional [[superhero]] first appearing in ''Detective Comics'' in May, 1939.  The creation of artist Bob Kane and writer Bill Finger, Batman remains one of the most famous and recognizable of the superhero genre, resulting in the creation of several television series, motion pictures, and graphic novels.  The original comics are highly-prized by collectors and routinely fetch hundreds of thousands of dollars on the auction block.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Comics lore==&lt;br /&gt;
The man who was to become Batman is Bruce Wayne, a Gotham City socialite who inherited his wealth from his father, a prominent doctor and philanthropist named Thomas Wayne.  A trip to the movies with the family ended in tragedy: Thomas and his wife Martha are murdered by a common thug in front of Bruce, whose childhood effectively ends at the age of eight.  &lt;br /&gt;
Wayne's anger at his parent's murder causes him to vow revenge against the criminal element in all of its forms.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Growing up in the care of his father's butler, Alfred Pennyworth, he inherits a vast fortune, his father's business and philanthropic empire. &lt;br /&gt;
Wayne uses his wealth to travel the world during his teenage years, seeking out instruction from experts in various fields including martial arts, chemistry, psychology, forensics, meditation and engineering among other things. He returns to his home of Gotham city and is nearly killed as he attempts to stop a robbery. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While recovering in his study at Wayne Manor, Bruce Wayne's brooding is disturbed by a bat as it crashes through the window of his room. He reflects, &amp;quot;Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
The bat inspires Wayne to create an alter ego for himself, one that will create fear and panic in those he targets, he decides to become the Batman. Wayne fashions himself a costume and arms himself with a small arsenal of bat related weapons and gear, specifically shunning guns. The refusal of Wayne to use guns stems not only from his professed belief that they are tools of the weak and cowardly, but also from a psychological block against them due to the one used in his parents' murder. In the last issue of the DC series Final Crises, Batman overcomes his disdain of guns and uses a special bullet to mortally wound the villain Darkseid. Batman is seemingly killed by Darkseid in the process and as of yet his fate is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Batman is unusual for superheroes in that he has no superhuman powers, though he is certainly an unusually gifted human being: an athlete who would &amp;quot;win or place&amp;quot; in any Olympic event, master of a dizzying array of martial arts forms, genius detective and capable scientist, and a billionaire to top it off.  Despite this, he uses his brains, training, and resources to not only keep up but excel in comparison with many heroes with great superpowers, a testament to man's will in the face of adversity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Publication history==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:87 4 000027.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Detective Comics'' number 27, the first appearence of Batman]]&lt;br /&gt;
Vin Sullivan was the publisher of National Periodical (the forerunner of DC Comics), and during the end of the 1930's was basking in the success of [[Superman]], the first true comic book superhero; Sullivan was looking for another such character to publish.  The ''Detective Comics'' series would soon provide him with one, a costumed hero no less, having great intellect but without Superman's strength.  Bob Kane, influenced by [[Sherlock Holmes]], [[Zorro]], a recent comic character called &amp;quot;The Shadow&amp;quot;, the sketches of Leonardo Da Vinci, and a film titled ''The Bat'', came up with a character in a gray suit, black boots, and a black cape and cowl; the creation was called ''the Bat-Man''.  The drawings were taken to artist/writer Bill Finger, and by May 1939 an excited Sullivan published the character in a story called &amp;quot;The Case of the Chemical Syndicate,&amp;quot; part of several stories in ''Detective Comics'' issue number 27, which became an immediate and successful hit.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By November of that year, Batman's origin story - the murder of his parents - was set; this storyline of a boy growing up to avenge his parents struck a chord with readers, and sales of the comics grew.  The following year he appeared in his own series under the &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; name - published alongside ''Detective Comics'' - which also introduced &amp;quot;Robin, the Boy Wonder&amp;quot;, a successful attempt to gain younger readers as well as creating the popularity of the &amp;quot;sidekick&amp;quot; in the comics industry; Green Arrow and Speedy, the Human Torch and Toro, and [[Captain America]] and Bucky would be prime examples of this trend.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The combination of Bob Kane and Bill Finger (Finger was largely uncredited after Batman's creation) in the early-1940's also introduced to the comics world several of the most recognizable villians in fiction.  Created were &amp;quot;Two-Face&amp;quot;, a scarred villian reportedly based upon [[Robert Louis Stevenson]]'s ''[[Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]]''; the &amp;quot;Cat&amp;quot;, a sensuous woman who became better known as &amp;quot;Catwoman&amp;quot;; and the &amp;quot;[[Joker (comics)|Joker]]&amp;quot; - which Kane based upon the image he saw of actor Conrad Veidt in the silent film ''The Man Who Laughs'' - a nightmarish version of a clown who is the antithesis of everything Batman is, and who became one of the best known villians in fiction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Film and television==&lt;br /&gt;
The first dramatic appearance of Batman appeared as a reoccurring guest star on the &amp;quot;Superman&amp;quot; radio series. Interestingly, during the initial story line, Batman and Robin didn't interact with Superman, but Clark Kent.   Batman's young side-kick, &amp;quot;Robin&amp;quot;, was created specifically as an exposition device, desperately needed in radio.  Although a pilot episode was recorded, Batman never received his own radio series.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Film serials====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman 1943.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Lewis Wilson as Batman and Douglas Croft as Robin from the 1943 12-chapter serial ''Batman'' (copyright 1943 Columbia Pictures)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman-west-ward.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Adam West and Burt Ward as Batman and Robin, from the 1966 television series ''Batman'' (copyright 1966 William Dozier/20th Century Fox)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Quiz1053outcome1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Michael Keaton in the 1992 film ''Batman Returns'' (copyright 1992 Warner Brothers)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dead end batman.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Clark Bartram in the 2003 Collora fan-film ''Batman: Dead End'']]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Batman-begins01.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Batman (Christian Bale) interrogating in his own way a corrupt police detective in the film ''Batman Begins'' (copyright 2005 Legendary Films/Warner Brothers)]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first film dealing with the Caped Crusader was a 1943 12-chapter serial from Columbia Pictures starring Lewis Wilson and Douglas Croft as Batman and Robin.  The plot of the film centered on a nefarious, stereotypical Asian scientist, Dr. Daka (J. Carrol Naish), who has a plan to steal valuable resources from the United States in order to support the Axis during the World War II.  Although low-budget, ''Batman'' introduced the concept of the Batcave (called the &amp;quot;Bat's Cave&amp;quot; in the film) and the hidden entry to it, as well as altering the appearance of Alfred from a portly servant to a leaner, robust individual.  ''Batman and Robin'' would follow it in 1949, also as a serial, starring Robert Lowery and Johnny Duncan (Muir, 9; 72)&lt;br /&gt;
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====''Batman'' television series====&lt;br /&gt;
In January 1966, ABC released a &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; television series starring Adam West and Burt Ward.  During the series pre-production, there was a heated debate over which direction the Caped Crusader should be taken.  Eventually, Producer William Dozier's vision won out - &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; would be a high budgeted, camp series which often made the character more droll than stern.   This portrayal of the character, while it was in line with the comics of the time, came in later years to be reviled by fans, particularly during the '80s and '90s.  During the summer of 1966, Dozier unleased a &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; feature film, also starring Adam West.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Although the series caught on quickly, its ratings fell just as suddenly.  During the series' third season, Yvonne Craig was hired to portray &amp;quot;Batgirl&amp;quot;, but this did nothing to slow the ratings plunge.  The last few episode of &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; were among the lowest rated television series of the 60s.  &lt;br /&gt;
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For decades after, the &amp;quot;Batman&amp;quot; television series defined the filmed comic book template, which can be seen feature films such as &amp;quot;[[Doc Savage]]&amp;quot; and the television productions of &amp;quot;The Justice League&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The Spirit&amp;quot;.  In 1978 Adam West and Burt Ward would both be reunited in the two-part television special &amp;quot;The Legend of the Superheroes&amp;quot;, in which Batman and Robin were part of a group of DC superheroes thwarting the attempts of a rival collection of villains to take over the world in a combination of camp and comedy; the second part of the special has both groups in a celebratory roast by Ed McMahon.  The camp-template was broken with the success of 1978's &amp;quot;[[The Incredible Hulk]]&amp;quot; starring [[Bill Bixby]], and based on the character owned by rival publisher [[Marvel Comics]].  Meanwhile, the course of the character in the comics since 1973 had returned him to his darker roots as writers and artists placed him in more compelling storylines and situations, culminating in 1986's four-part ''The Dark Knight Returns'' by Frank Miller, a work which helped influence director Tim Burton prior to putting Batman on the big screen once more.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Early animation====&lt;br /&gt;
Batman also found a new home on Saturday mornings, courtesy of the Filmation and Hanna-Barbera studios.  In 1968, Batman appeared with Superman in Filmation's &amp;quot;Batman/Superman Hour&amp;quot;, a program divided into individual shorts featuring &amp;quot;Dragnet&amp;quot; character-actor Olan Soule as the voice of Batman, and radio disk jockey Casey Kasem as Robin.  The following year the show would be cut to thirty minutes, with just the Batman shorts in Filmation's newly-titled &amp;quot;Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder&amp;quot;, also lasting a year.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hanna-Barbera created the &amp;quot;Superfriends&amp;quot; in 1973, again using Soule and Kasem for voice work, and placed Batman and Robin alongside Superman, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman in a &amp;quot;hall of justice&amp;quot; as the team fought minor villains around the world with a built-in moral message for children watching it.  The &amp;quot;Superfriends&amp;quot; proved a success, ultimately spinning off several creations through the early-1980s.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Tim Burton films====&lt;br /&gt;
''Batman'' film took a darker turn in 1989, when the [[Tim Burton]]-directed [[Batman (film, 1989)|film]], starring [[Michael Keaton]], portrayed Bruce Wayne as a reclusive, quirky billionaire who probably was not entirely sane.  While at first wary of an actor known primarily for comedies playing Batman, some fans ended up going to other movies before its release just to see the trailer for the Batman film, and then walked out, not even watching the movie they paid for.  The film was a success, and was widely-lauded for [[Jack Nicholson]]'s portrayal of Batman's nemesis, the Joker.  It was followed up with 1992's ''Batman Returns'', which, while not as well-reviewed or successful, was still accepted by the fans, and brought the iconic figures of Catwoman and the Penguin into the movie universe.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tim Burton was replaced with Joel Schumacher for the third Batman movie in the new movie canon, ''Batman Forever'' (1995), which introduced Robin (Batman's iconic sidekick), and the villains the Riddler and Two-Face.  Whereas Burton had tried for a more dark and Gothic look, Schumacher went with bright neon colors and brought back some of the camp of the '60s TV series.  The movie did well at the box office, but received mixed reviews.  The fourth and final film of this &amp;quot;universe&amp;quot; was ''Batman and Robin'', released in 1997.  Widely regarded as the worst of the series by fan and critic alike, ''Batman and Robin'' returned fully to the campy tone of the TV series, featuring &amp;quot;candy-coated&amp;quot; sets, poor special effects, weirder science than normal from Bat-Media, character derailment, and Arnold Schwarzennegger, as the lead villain Mr. Freeze, with barely 100 lines of dialogue, over half of which centered around cold-themed puns.  This film was reviled for years as having &amp;quot;killed&amp;quot; the franchise, and performed relatively poorly in ticket sales.&lt;br /&gt;
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The tone of the new movies influenced the 1991 critically-acclaimed ''Batman: The Animated Series'', a cartoon shown at first in prime time.  Some of its takes on certain villains - such as Mr. Freeze - became iconic, and it introduced several characters that eventually &amp;quot;immigrated&amp;quot; to the comics, such as Detective Renee Montoya, and the Joker's hench-girlfriend, Harley Quinn.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Sandy Collora short====&lt;br /&gt;
Attempting to get attention for his directing skills, Sandy Collora spent $30,000 dollars to create a demonstration reel strictly for the fans.  The result was the 2003 short ''Batman: Dead End'', a film which drew on the imagery of comic artist Alex Ross, in addition to previously-published work by Dark Horse Comics, which pitted Batman against the Alien and Predator from the Hollywood films of the same names.  Starring Clark Bartram as Batman and Andrew Koenig as an escaped Joker, the film earned critical praise from comic veterans and fans alike.[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/tech/nextnews/archive/next030807.htm][http://www.collorastudios.com/projects/bde/bdemain.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Christopher Nolan films====&lt;br /&gt;
The film series was rebooted again in 2005, with ''Batman Begins'', a grittier, more &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; take on Batman.  In this film, director Christopher Nolan took Bruce Wayne, played by Christian Bale, halfway around the world in search of the answer to the riddle of criminality.  He learns to fight multiple opponents, conceal himself, and gains the will to act in defense of others.  Returning to Gotham after being declared legally dead, he deftly maneuvers himself back into the control of his murdered father's company and resolves to terrify the criminal element by making himself seem inhuman...and chooses the mantle of a bat, because bats scare ''him''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Several critically-acclaimed comic book stories - among them ''The Long Halloween'' and ''The Killing Joke'' - were used as in the most recent entry in Nolan's series, ''The Dark Knight'', which has thus far exceeded all expectations.  Almost universally lauded by critics and shattering numerous box-office records, ''The Dark Knight'' featured the final performance of [[Heath Ledger]], who died from a drug overdose after filming, as a monstrous version of the Joker, a psychotic who thinks the only sane way to live is without rules and wants to prove it to the world - and at the same time gave artists and writers who penned the Batman stories the version of the Joker they thought was closest to their own.  Though the tone at the start of the film is hopeful - Batman has inspired citizens to stand up for themselves again and has organized crime in the city reeling - it quickly spirals downward, embodying the theme that Nolan chose for the movie: things have to get worse before they get better.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Kane, Bob (with Tom Andrae).  ''Batman &amp;amp; Me'', Eclipse Books, Forestville, California (1989).&lt;br /&gt;
*Goulart, Ron.  ''Comic Book Encyclopedia'', Harper Entertainment, New York (2004). &lt;br /&gt;
*Muir, John Kenneth.  ''The Encyclopedia of Superheroes on Film and Television'', McFarland &amp;amp; Company, Jefferson, North Carolina (2004)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.collorastudios.com/projects/bde/bdemain.htm Collora Studios: ''Batman: Dead End'']&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsLQcOV2YeU ''The Man Who Laughs'', uploaded to YouTube]&lt;br /&gt;
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