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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Casmier.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Senator John McCain, R-Arizona''']] '''John Sidney McCain III''' (born in the U.S. [[Panama Canal]] Zone, August 29, 1936) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m0003http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Button_enter.png Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, is the Republican nominee for President in 2008, prominent maverick politician and Vietnam War hero, and is the senior [[United States Senate|Senator]] of [[Arizona]]. He has been an influential leader in American politics since 1986, when he ran for office crusading against corruption, attacking pork barrel spending and working for campaign finance reform.  He was defeated by [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2008 kept his distance from the president, despite efforts of Democrats to paint the two as close allies.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a pilot for the United States Navy and former Prisoner-of-War (POW), he served in the military for 22 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m000303 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain, a [[Baptist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296973,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has impressive credentials on issues of foreign policy and national security, which have propelled him in the forefront of national politics as both an outspoken voice for the United States military and as a Presidential contender for the Republican Party since 1993.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain is the [[Republican]] nominee for [[President of the United States of America|President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 Election]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NATIONWORLD/803050441/0/LOCAL1901 ''McCain clinches GOP nomination; Huckabee bows out''] 5 March 2008 IndyStar.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255535,00.html John McCain Announces Plans for '08 Presidential Candidacy on 'Late Night With David Letterman'], Associated Press, 1 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's family has a long history of military service, including ancestors who fought as army soldiers in the Indian Wars, [[American Revolutionary War]], [[War of 1812]], for the Confederate States of America in the [[American Civil War]], and in [[World War I]]. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking United States Navy admirals. In addition, McCain's two sons are currently serving in the U.S. Navy. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1951, the McCain family moved to Northern [[Virginia]] and he attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. McCain was on the wrestling team and went on to graduate in 1954. He later joined the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in 1958.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Military career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain 1965.jpg|left|thumb|200px|McCain photographed in 1965]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain served heroically in the [[United States Navy]] from 1958 to 1981. He spent two and a half years as a naval aviator in training at the Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas. By 1967, McCain was a veteran pilot aboard the ''USS Forrestal'' aircraft carrier off the coast of Vietnam. On 29 July 1967, while preparing to take off on a bombing run over North Vietnam, a missile accidentally fired from another plane, hitting the fuel tanks on McCain's aircraft and triggering explosions and a fire. McCain escaped from his plane by crawling onto the nose of the aircraft and diving on to the ship's deck which was ablaze from burning fuel. His attempt to rescue a fellow pilot whose flight suit was on fire was prevented when McCain was blown over by further explosions. When the fire was contained 24 hours later, 134 men had been killed and hundreds more injured. It was called the worst non-combat-related accident in U.S. naval history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=526451&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The coronation of the ultimate survivor, John McCain''] 5 March 2008 [[Daily Mail]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-Of-War (1967 - 1973)===&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 26, 1967, as McCain was flying over Hanoi's Thermal Power Plant during his 23rd bombing mission, he was shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese. He had just released his bombs when [[A-4 Skyhawk|his plane]] was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. As he ejected, unconscious from the accident, he broke his knee and both arms and descended by parachute into a lake. When he floated ashore, Vietnamese locals spit and kicked him, nearly killing him. The police took him to Hoa Loa Prison where he was held in solitary captivity without medical attention or sufficient food. During brutal interrogations, he was asked for information in return for medical care. McCain refused, giving only his name and date of birth. When it was discovered that he was the son of a top U.S. Admiral, he was given medical care. Hospital personnel never believed he would survive, as he had large wounds and weighed a mere 100 lbs. He also had completely white hair, a product of accelerated aging under harsh conditions. Nonetheless, his health improved and McCain was held as a Prisoner-Of-War (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton. As a prisoner, guards tortured him with frequent beatings and painful contortions, breaking his teeth and bones. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After months of beating sessions and intense interrogations, McCain was psychologically and physically weakened. At one point, he was forced to sign a statement which made claims exonerating his captors of inhumane treatment. The paper was intended for use as propaganda, but in all their subsequent attempts for promoting a &amp;quot;humane&amp;quot; image of the POW camp, McCain worked his hardest to thwart them. In 1971, four years from his capture, he was placed with 20 to 30 other Americans in better treatment. They were allowed to celebrate Christian holidays, including Christmas. McCain, who served as an impromptu chaplain, recalled that during their services, men cried; &amp;quot;They were tears of joy that for the first time... we were able to celebrate Christmas together.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of his father's high military status, McCain was offered early release, which he adamantly refused in honor of the &amp;quot;First in, first out&amp;quot; clause of the POW Code of Conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 14, 1973, after five and a half years of imprisonment, McCain was released alongside 106 other pilots under the Nixon administration. McCain received a heartfelt reception at the White House and was pronounced a war hero and eminent voice for the Vietnam War.  Awards from the military followed, including the Legion of Merit, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, a [[Purple Heart]], the [[Distinguished Flying Cross]], and the Vietnamese Legion of Honor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain's severe war injuries prevent him today from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return to the Navy (1973 - 1981)===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Vietnam War and his military service remained strong in McCain's memory. He immediately wanted to rejoin the Navy, and spent years preparing with excruciating physical therapy and a year of study in the Naval War College, where he attacked the liberal anti-war movement for weakening the morale of his fellow POWs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kirkpatrick, David D. &amp;quot;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/14/america/15pows.php In '74 thesis, the seeds of McCain's war views.]&amp;quot; The New York Times (June 15, 2008) p. A1.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With his extensive experience in the Navy's Aviation division, he was selected to reform the flying fleet as Commanding Officer. John McCain quickly transformed his crew's personnel, which had been underfunded in the post-Vietnam era. Carl Smith, who served under McCain, stated, &amp;quot;He immediately began making changes. He fired people, and he replaced people at the top who he thought were not being as effective as he wanted them to be. He wanted real leadership. He wanted the squadron to come to life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 57&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many in his staff were disappointed to have him leave, and praised his work in promoting efficiency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Command of a training squadron (1976-77), gave him some executive experience, which his supporters contrast to [[Barack Obama]]'s lack of any executive experience whatsoever. Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate [[Mike Huckabee]] said that this experience should be valued because just one choice he makes in that position could have disastrous consequences.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his assignment to the Senate as the Navy's liaison, 1977-81, McCain began to join the ranks of politicians. He transformed the position from a rather unimportant post into one of authority and respect{{fact}}, gaining allies in the Senate. The Senate liaison role provided a learning experience in national security policy and foreign affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political career==&lt;br /&gt;
===Congressional (1982 - 1986)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to entering public service, McCain worked in [[Phoenix]] for his father-in-law's company, Hensley &amp;amp; Co, which was an Anheuser-Busch beer wholesaler and distributor. With nagging injuries and limited physical mobility, McCain realized he would never become a four-star general like his forefathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography (1936-)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some biographers argue that he shifted into politics so that he could achieve the equivalent in politics, leading to his Senatorial career. After gaining support from local business leaders, he ran for a congressional seat for Arizona's 1st congressional district as a Republican in 1982. His [[liberal]] opponents labeled him as a &amp;quot;carpetbagger&amp;quot;. McCain responded to a voter making the charge of &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot; saying,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With the endorsements of local newspapers, McCain easily won the election. In 1983, he became President of the Republican freshman class of representatives. At the time, he largely supported Reagan's hard stance against the [[Soviet Union]], his tax cuts and matters on Indian Affairs. He did, however, break with the President on the decision to place a U.S. military presence in Lebanon, saying {{cquote|''I do not foresee obtainable objectives in Lebanon; I believe the longer we stay, the more difficult it will be to leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 100&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} During his four years in [[Congress]], McCain and his wife Cindy had three children.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senatorial (1986 - Present)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Reagan mccain.jpg|left|thumb|300px|3/3/1987 President Reagan and Nancy Reagan greet John McCain in the Blue Room during a dinner for newly elected members of the 100th Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Republican and [[conservative]] icon [[Barry Goldwater]] retired from the United States Senate in Arizona in 1986, Congressman McCain announced his candidacy for the seat. He easily won the election, defeating his Democratic opponent Richard Kimball by 20 percentage points. When entering the Senate, he became a member of the powerful Armed Services Committee and he also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. During the 1988 Presidential Election, McCain was named chairman of Veterans for Bush. In 1991, Senator McCain became part of the &amp;quot;Keating Five&amp;quot; scandal, where McCain and four other Senators (all Democrats) were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received approximately $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined that McCain was not involved in any wrongdoing, and McCain, along with the four other Senators, was not charged with any crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; Image in the Senate====&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has gained a reputation as a &amp;quot;maverick&amp;quot; for his sponsorship of many bills and leadership on almost every issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic [[Wisconsin]] Senator [[Russ Feingold]] on campaign finance reform. The McCain-Feingold bill banned &amp;quot;soft money&amp;quot;. It passed and was signed into law on November 6th, 2002, by President Bush. In the 1990's, McCain gained attention for his strong opposition to pork barrel spending. He championed the 1996 Line Item Veto Act, which gave the President the power to veto individual spending items. However, in 1998, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled the act unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;
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Voteview.com rated McCain as the second most conservative Senator in the 109th Congress (Jan. 2005 - Jan. 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://voteview.com/SEN109.HTM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time in 2007, according to Congressional Quarterly's &amp;quot;Presidential Support Scores&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/512/ Politifact fact checks McCain's voting support&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Issues include making the Bush tax cuts permanent (even though he originally opposed and voted against them), energy independence, winning the war in Iraq, reforming Social Security, and continuing and expanding Bush's supply-side economic policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, McCain asked for $0 in earmarks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database 2008 ''Pig Book''], Council for Citizens Against Government Waste&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 100% in 2007 (88% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain launched his first campaign for President in 2000, when he challenged then-[[Texas]] Governor [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican nomination. McCain's campaign was surprisingly strong. By ignoring the [[Iowa Caucus]], he was able to win the [[New Hampshire]] Primary by nineteen percentage points. He then won the [[Michigan]] Primary. However, he went on to lose [[South Carolina]] and 9 out of the 13 [[Super Tuesday]] states. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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====After 2000====&lt;br /&gt;
Following McCain's loss in the 2000 Presidential primary and reports of dirty tricks in [[South Carolina]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/21/the_anatomy_of_a_smear_campaign/ The anatomy of a smear campaign,  March 21, 2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2007/12/30/top-romney-advisor-tied-to-anonymous-attacks-of-previous-presidential-primary/ Top Romney advisor tied to anonymous attacks of previous presidential primary, December 30, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, McCain began to disagree with President Bush on many issues, such as tax cuts, climate change, and gun legislation. After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]], McCain wrote legislation that created the 9/11 Commission, while he and Democratic Senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security. In May 2005, McCain led the so-called &amp;quot;[[Gang of 14]]&amp;quot; in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;. McCain also co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform (see below under political record for details).   In addition to bipartisan work in the Senate, it was during this period that McCain was courted by the Senate Democrats, and considered switching parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2008 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:McCain_nomination.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain accepting his party's presidential nomination, 09/04/08]] McCain announced his run for President in the highly volatile 2008 Republican primary early in 2007 at New Hampshire. Throughout the early months, the debates represented a splintered Party among the strong Christian constituency (Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee), anti-immigration activists (Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo), and the blockbuster fundraising by Mitt Romney and Giuliani, who appeared to be media favorites upon entry. Mitt Romney raised $23 million in the first three months of 2007, for instance, three times that of Sen. McCain. In addition, McCain's refusal to sign pacts with important donors and his distaste for political fundraising&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;often left him at odds with the other candidates, namely Rudy Giuliani, who amassed over $10 million in March 2007 alone.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;amp;sid=aZ7SuEo0wuMM&amp;amp;refer=home&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain failed to win strong support because of his maverick image, especially with difficult relationships with key Christian leaders. Social conservatives flocked to Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee with strong disfavor for McCain because of his mixed statements on abortion and religious initiatives. Many evangelicals remained reluctant to support McCain because of longstanding offense he had raised during his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush; news had been raised that many influential Christian organizations would schism from the GOP if they did not reconcile relationships with the Republican Party nominee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luo, Michael. &amp;quot;Evangelicals see Dilemma in GOP Field.&amp;quot; July 8, 2007. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain also suffered from his strong support for the Iraq war, which had erupted in sharp violence during early 2007, and was attacked for his position on immigration reform, a hotly-debated issue among conservatives. A damaging false story by the New York Times, which claimed McCain had an affair with a lobbyist, hurt his stature. &lt;br /&gt;
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When news had spread that McCain's campaign bankrupted and &amp;quot;imploded&amp;quot; in the summer of 2007, the Republican nomination began a period of quick shifting; other candidates began to soar in the polls, detracting McCain's support. Rudy Giuliani, who collected a strong following based on his leadership as &amp;quot;America's Mayor&amp;quot;, began to court evangelical Christians who felt uneasy about McCain, gaining the endorsement of televangelist Pat Robertson. However, as his less-than-flattering personal life and liberal positions on social issues became apparent, he quickly lost momentum to Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Fred Thompson, who entered late in the race, quickly withdrew because of lackadaisical popularity and poor fund-raising efforts. Huckabee remained popular in the Southern United States, but failed to win major contests among independents and Democrat voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Romney had the edge in early races, but couldn't deliver a knockout blow.  McCain's poll numbers slowly increased and benefited as the field narrowed.  After McCain defeated top contender Mitt Romney by a large margin on Super Tuesday in delegate-rich states like New York, California, and Arizona,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Neuman and Howard Berkes. &amp;quot;Mitt Romney Drops Out of GOP Presidential Race.&amp;quot; Feb. 7, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18772382&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Mitt Romney withdrew with some protest, leaving McCain the clear front-runner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumiller, Elisabeth, Kirkpatrick, David. &amp;quot;Romney Is Out; McCain Emerges as G.O.P. Choice.&amp;quot; Feb. 8, 2008. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although McCain's proportion of the vote was not much higher than Romney's, he won most of the 'winner take all' states giving him a much higher proportion of the delegate count.  Without Romney's well-financed opposition, McCain easily clinched the necessary delegate lead of 1,191 in March after a spirited yet short-lived fight from Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NPR.org. &amp;quot;Election 2008: Huckabee, Romney Stay in Race for GOP Nomination.&amp;quot; Feb. 6, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18739137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain became the official Republican nominee on September 3 at the Republican National Convention. His running mate is Governor [[Sarah Palin]] of [[Alaska]] and his [[Democrat]] opponent is Senator [[Barack Obama]] of [[Illinois]]. Election day will be on November 4, 2008.  After trailing Obama in the national polls, McCain suddenly took the lead after the two conventions, baffling the Democrats who had built their own campaign entirely on attacking President Bush, whom McCain ignored.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The latest poll results are summarized at [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html Real Clear Politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Domestic Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain discusses his opinions with Tim Russert on &amp;quot;Meet the Press&amp;quot;, 2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Balanced Budget===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has emphasized reducing government spending over tax cuts. He is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of pork barrel spending and has pledged to veto any bill with pork as President. Congressional experience has enabled John McCain to identify items that are unnecessary. McCain is fiscally responsible with the taxpayers' money and created a simple method to detect spending abuses. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9] , http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9, U.S. Senate Pork Barrel Spending&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* An appropriation that is not properly authorized by the Senate and not requested by the Administration.&lt;br /&gt;
* An unauthorized and unrequested, locality-specific or facility-specific earmark (including those funds that are above the Administration request).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economy===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a staunch advocate of freedom in the [[economy]]. He has spent his career fighting for deregulation and the prosperity of a free market. In 1999, McCain voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00105&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill promoted more freedom for banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00192&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2005 McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act which would allow the office of Federal Housing Enterprise oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over Federal Home Associations. McCain said the following on May 26th, 2006: &lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that [[Fannie Mae]] and [[Freddie Mac]] pose to'' ''the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.&amp;quot;'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccain-supported-a-proposal-for-an-agency-to-oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2005/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Congress did not act, with the bill dying in committee.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports school vouchers and charter schools. His voting record shows support for reducing the federal government's role in [[education]]. He voted for school vouchers for Washington, D.C., education savings accounts, and against $5 billion for grants to local educational agencies. McCain sponsored the Education A-Plus bill in 1997 and again in 1999, which allowed parents to open tax-free saving accounts for their children's school supplies. McCain also co-sponsored the Child Nutrition Act, which would provide federal funding for at-risk children. He has publicly stated he supports [[intelligent design]] teaching in schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069 &amp;quot;On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools...McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes &amp;quot;all points of view&amp;quot; should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health Care===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record and stated positions on [[health care]] are based on true conservative principles. He is against socialized health care and health coverage mandates. McCain supports tax credits for personal health savings accounts and enhancing competition in the health care industry to improve quality and lower costs. He also supports allowing citizens to purchase out-of-state health insurance. In an October 2007 statement, McCain said: &amp;quot;In health care, we believe in enhancing the freedom of individuals to receive necessary and desired care. We do not believe in coercion and the use of state power to mandate care, coverage or costs.&amp;quot; McCain is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/healthcare.htm Pro Healthcare]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energy===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has stated &amp;quot;ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/4dbd2cc7-890e-47f1-882f-b8fc4cfecc78.htm], McCain Economic Plan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “America’s most vital interests call us to the mission of energy security, and so does our sense of honor. And the straightest, swiftest path to energy security is to produce more, use less, and find new sources of power — so that no commodity can determine our security, and no crisis can undermine our economy,” McCain said in Houston, TX, June 16, 2008. He proposes to remove federal obstacles to offshore drilling. Among his major initiatives is the removal of the 27-year old federal moratorium on states’ abilities to explore and drill for oil and natural gas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/17/mccain-slaps-obama-on-energy-calls-for-more-drilling/], McCain slaps Obama on energy, June 17th, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, he wants the states to receive incentives and royalties to drill. The current ban on offshore drilling covers an estimated 80 percent of U.S. coastal waters.&amp;quot;We've seen the impact of it in the form of food prices, in the form of gasoline, in the form of threats of inflation and indeed indications of inflation, and we must embark on a national mission to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain] , http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain , AP McCain urges end to ban on offshore drilling , June 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He indicated, though, that the end of the ban on offshore drilling would have mostly psychological effects in the short term.  At a town hall meeting, McCain stated, &amp;quot;I don't see an immediate relief, but I do see that exploitation of existing reserves that may exist -- and in view of many experts that do exist off our coasts -- is also a way that we need to provide relief. Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
He would support incentives for building new nuclear power plants. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/24/1163504.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain wants more nuclear reactors to increase America's energy independence. He is calling for the construction of 45 new reactors by 2030. Also, McCain wants to increase federal funds for clean coal technology by 2 billion dollars to reduce dependence on foreign oil. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1] , http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1 , AP McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors, June 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports increasing ethanol imports and more production of hybrid vehicles. He is co-sponsor of a Senate cap-and-trade bill designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions. He has consistently voted for preserving the budget for ANWR but against drilling for [[oil]] in the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]] (ANWR), because of environmental concerns.  Conservationists differ from conservatives that 2000 acres for oil drilling is not enough to impact [[polar bears]] in the region.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Environment===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's position on [[global warming]] issues has put him at odds with conservatives. His [[environment]]al proposals are mostly sound modern thinking by someone that understands the enormity of the problem.  McCain says that we can go green as a nation without bankrupting America. Per his website, Senator McCain &amp;quot;wants to leave a better future for our children.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
On January 2007, McCain said, &amp;quot;we continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing this environmental problem. The science tells us that urgent and significant action is needed.&amp;quot; On October 30, 2003, he co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act (S.139), which was defeated. McCain is a member of, and was endorsed by, the Republicans for Environmental Protection organization. His conservative stances include voting to confirm Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior and he is in favor of renewable energy such as solar, hydro, and wind. &amp;quot;Wind power is one of many alternative energy sources that are changing our economy for the better, and one day they will change our economy forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Immigration===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain says that he will secure the borders first and many [[immigration]] issue are still needed but will have to come later. In 2007, McCain worked to provide border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants. Conservatives wanted nothing to do with the proposal and in June 2007, Congress' efforts collapsed. McCain said of the outcome,&amp;quot;I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm] , http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm, AP McCain emphasizes border security, November 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;..I support the same solution. But we've got to secure the borders first&amp;quot; says McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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On Jan. 5, regarding the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Senator McCain announced that anyone who says he supported amnesty is &amp;quot;a liar, is lying.&amp;quot; The senator stated &amp;quot;I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and I never have supported [[Social Security]] benefits for people who are in this country illegally. Any assertion to the contrary is absolutely false.&amp;quot; During the comprehensive immigration reform debate, Senator McCain voted to table an amendment that would have prevented illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security who &amp;quot;are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00130&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Senator McCain stated in a May 29, 2003 interview, &amp;quot;Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.&amp;quot; Arguing amnesty is not a free pass or a reward for law breaking, McCain stated, &amp;quot;Well, because amnesty, according to the dictionary, is forgiveness. The proposal that we had- would require fines, would require back in the line, would require deportation for some. It would require others to go back to the country of their origin&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm] , Ontheissues.com, John McCain on Immigration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the [[Republican]] debate at the Reagan Library, McCain stated he supports the deportation of 2 million illegals who have committed crimes in the USA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversely, in a June 2008 meeting with Hispanic leaders in Chicago, McCain indicated he would push legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.  According to one attendee, Rosanna Pulido, head of the Illinois [[Minuteman Project]], &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics...&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/mccain-discusses-immigrat_n_108297.html McCain Discusses Immigration With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-06-19-4020801806_x.htm McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Pulido further stated, &amp;quot;He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another, I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Due to his support, members of the Minuteman Project, participating in the Minuteman Project Caravan, traveled to Washington, D.C. to register their disapproval.  They made an entry into McCain's Guest Log Book asking him to uphold the Constitution and enforce the law.  After making the entry, the group was forced to leave by a senior staffer for Senator McCain or be reported to the police. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643181/posts Minuteman Project Thrown Out of McCain's Office&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator McCain's position on illegal immigration has arguably resulted in the most criticisms from conservatives. On May 12, 2005, McCain joined Senator [[Ted Kennedy]] (D-[[Massachusetts]]) as co-sponsor of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. The bill would legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million [[illegal alien]]s in the United States and have them immediately start collecting social security and other government benefits. The bill never came for a vote on the Senate floor. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 are two additional compromises based on the original McCain-Kennedy bill. McCain has consistently voted for visas for skilled workers. McCain voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and has said border security should be a bigger priority then the illegal aliens who are currently here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Global Trade===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has actively supported reducing barriers to trade and has shown leadership in the [[Senate]] on Free Trade Agreements (FTA). Senator McCain supports both pending FTAs for Columbia and [[South Korea]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/p/McCain_Trade.htm], John McCain and Trade&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He voted for and defends the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Social Security===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a strong supporter of private [[Social Security]] accounts. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Tax Reform===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2001, McCain gained attention as one of only two Republicans who voted against President Bush's tax cuts. He opposed accelerating the cuts in 2003, saying, &amp;quot;I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit.&amp;quot; He has now changed his stance, by voting to make the tax cuts permanent, and says he would do the same as President. In 2002, Senator McCain was one of only two Republicans to twice vote against the permanent repeal of the Death Tax. He has also refused to sign a pledge put forth by Americans for Tax Freedom not to impose any new taxes or increase existing taxes. However, many of McCain's votes has shown support for lower taxes, such as eliminating the marriage penalty, a 1997 vote to cut capital gains taxes and he introduced measures that would require a sixty-vote majority to pass a tax increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain urges the Senate to pass FISA. “For months, House Democrats, the [[ACLU]], and the trial lawyers have held up legislation to modernize our nation’s terrorist surveillance laws.  Today, the House passed a compromise bill to end this impasse.  While I would have preferred to see the Senate bill enacted, which I voted for earlier this year, I am pleased Congressional leaders and the Administration were able to reach an agreement to reform our current surveillance law and not let FISA expire in August.  I hope [[Senate]] Democrats will allow this matter to quickly be considered by the Senate and sent to the President for his signature.  I will support this measure and hope that politics will be put aside in favor of this vital national security matter.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=a7f9dc6c-da0e-459d-dd6c-91e20a46e1e5] , McCAIN URGES SENATE PASSAGE OF FISA &lt;br /&gt;
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McCain has voted in support of the [[Patriot Act|USA PATRIOT Act]] as well as National Missile Defense. However, he has joined [[liberal]]s in support of immediately closing [[Guantanamo Bay]], and moving all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. On October 3, 2005, he introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment which prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The bill was passed and signed by President [[George W. Bush]]. McCain has recently criticized the practice of [[waterboarding]], saying &amp;quot;they should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.&amp;quot; McCain voted against HR 2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which included provisions that would have prevented the CIA from water boarding prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Afghanistan===&lt;br /&gt;
After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] McCain was a strong advocate for military action in [[Afghanistan]], saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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''We did not cause this war. Our enemies did, and they are to blame for the deprivations and difficulties it occasions. They are to'' ''blame for the loss of innocent life. They are to blame for the geopolitical problems confronting our friends and us. We can help'' ''repair the damage of war. But to do so, we must destroy the people who started it.'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95001375&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is currently calling for 15,000 additional troops to address the situation in Afghanistan, similar to his victorious 2007 troop surge in Iraq.   &lt;br /&gt;
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===Iran===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has said that &amp;quot;We continue to be concerned about [[Iran]]ian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons.&amp;quot; He tried to ban Iran from playing in the 2006 World Cup, citing Iranian President [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]'s [[Holocaust]] denials.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Iraq===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:610x.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, 03/17/08]] McCain voted with the majority [[Republican]] Party and 29 Democrats of the Senate in favor of the 2002 &amp;quot;[[Iraq War]] Resolution&amp;quot; authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war against Iraq and overthrow the [[Saddam Hussein]] regime. In 1998, McCain voted in favor of HR 4655 Iraq Liberation Act, signed by then President Clinton. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm], http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm, HR4655 Public Law: 105-338, October 31, 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; HR 4655 declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government. McCain went on to became a critic of the management of the war, arguing that there wasn't enough troop strength in the area. However, he never became a defeatist advocating surrender. McCain publicly stated that he had &amp;quot;no confidence&amp;quot; in then-Secretary of Defense [[Donald Rumsfeld]]. However, he refused to call for his resignation, saying that &amp;quot;the President picks his team, and the president has the right to stay with that team if he wants to.&amp;quot; McCain became one of the strongest leading advocates in the Senate for the 2007 troop surge, which increased the number of American troops by 20,500, deployed to provide security to [[Baghdad]] and Al Anbar Province. On February 4, he criticized a non-binding resolution opposing the troop buildup, calling it a reckless &amp;quot;vote of no confidence&amp;quot; in the U.S. Commanders and in the military. Additionally, he voted against all measures aimed at withdrawal of U.S. forces and voted against cutting off of war funds. McCain rightly believes that Congress should not micromanage the war and to give the military everything they ask for to successfully complete the mission. He has mentioned in a town hall forum that staying the course in Iraq for 'a hundred years' would not bother him if no American soldier's were losing their lives. This became an issue for Democratic political strategy. The DNC lead by chairman [[Howard Dean]] repeatedly tried to use false statements in justifying attacking McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html, Washington post Fact Checker, April 2, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What McCain said is very different from what the liberal media and the DNC were reporting. Asked in Derry, NH of the willingness to keep troops in Iraq for 50 years, he said &amp;quot;Make it 100&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
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===Russia===&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCain has strongly criticized [[Russia]]n President [[Vladimir Putin]]. During a primary debate he sad, &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He bullies his neighbors and he wants to get a control of the energy supply of Western Europe. This is a dangerous person. And he has to understand that there's a cost to some of his actions.&amp;quot; In 2005 McCain and [[Connecticut]] senator [[Joe Lieberman]] drafted a resolution banning Russia from attending the Group of 8 (G8) international forum. McCain is also a strong supporter of ballistic national missile defenses.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cuba===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain forcefully supports the [[Cuban embargo]] and believes it should be maintained until certain specific political freedoms are restored to the country. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&amp;amp;adxnnl=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;fta=y&amp;amp;adxnnlx=1222106556-zea3cQG12OakFI9P97dogQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Social Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
===Abortion===&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. John McCain has more than a twenty year anti-[[abortion]] record, first in the [[U.S. House of Representatives]], then in the U.S. Senate. McCain voted 11 times on anti-abortion and other [[pro-life]] issues in  the House. Senator McCain has voted 119 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life measures in the Senate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf], http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record in the Senate on abortion is pro-life. He voted for the 2003 Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. McCain has also voted against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00214 Voted Nay on an amendment to authorize grants to carry out programs to provide education on preventing teen pregnancies&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00075 Vote against allocation of $100m for prevention of unintended pregnancies &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nowpublic.com/quiet-campaign-against-contraception Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast that he has &amp;quot;consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs.&amp;quot; And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During his first Presidential campaign for the 2000 election, McCain said the following on [[Roe v. Wade]], &amp;quot;I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07021908.html McCain's &amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has since changed his position, saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Voted against a [[Roe v. Wade]] resolution&lt;br /&gt;
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* Voted for four anti-abortion U.S. Supreme Court judges&lt;br /&gt;
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* Supported H.R.3913, to prohibit federal funds for abortion services in any case &lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ann Althouse, Rudy &amp;amp; Mitt Hem &amp;amp; Haw on Abortion, N.Y. TIMES, Feb. 24, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;I have many, many votes and it’s been consistent. And I’ve got a consistent zero from NARAL throughout all those years….&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My record is clear, and I think the important thing is you look at people’s voting record because sometimes rhetoric can be a little… misleading…. As you know I don’t support Roe v. Wade…. I thought it was a bad decision, and I think that the decision should be made in the states&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*“I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen.” McCain explained further that he “will try to find clones of Alito and Roberts” to fill future court vacancies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26539], Letter from Sen. John McCain to Pro‐Life Community Janary 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gun Control===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record on [[gun control]] is mixed. He co-sponsored the Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. This act would reduce the number of gun shows, require gun-owners to purchase trigger locks, and allow federal agents to arrest those who violate federal gun laws. However, McCain has frequently voted in support of the Second Amendment, such as voting against background checks at gun shows and voting in support of prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. In August of 1999, McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details. However, he still voted against the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and the efforts to renew it, as well as the Brady Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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A top official of the [[National Rifle Association]] said McCain has been a reliable ally of gun owners despite divisions with the powerful lobbying group on some issues. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press &amp;quot;...We're not foolish enough to ignore the vast areas of agreement in which John McCain has been a friend to gun owners.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Republican presidential nominee has voted against a ban on assault-type weapons with restrictions which were objected.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Same-sex marriage===&lt;br /&gt;
In the speech on the Senate floor July 13th, 2004, McCain stated “Mr. President, most Americans believe, as I do, that the institution of marriage should be reserved for the union of a man and a woman.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.friendsofmccain.com/news/dspnews.cfm?id=143&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain revealed his decision based on super majority requirements and the current political realities within Congress. “By my count, there is not at this time even a small majority of senators who would vote for Senator Allard’s amendment, much less the 67 votes required by the Constitution. That won’t change, Mr. President, unless public opinion changes significantly. The [[Founders]], wisely, made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend, and, as a practical political matter, can’t be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that. Were it any easier I fear we could not make the claim for the Constitution’s enduring success that I have just made.&amp;quot; Further, he explained his approach to the amendment's ultimate success “If a constitution is to be amended, Mr. President, it should be a state constitution.&amp;quot; McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In May 2008, the California Supreme Court effectively created a ruling to grant same-sex partners equal rights to [[Marriage]] and to be recognized by the state. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator &amp;quot;doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Votes missed == &lt;br /&gt;
As of August 2007, McCain had missed more votes during the current session of Congress than any Senator other than [[South Dakota]] [[Democrat]] [[Tim Johnson]], who had suffered a brain hemorrhage that had kept him from Congress. He had missed over 48% of his votes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lawrence Journal-World, August 10, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is due to the fact that he is running a nationwide campaign for President.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cindy McCain.jpg|thumb|Cindy McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has been married twice.  His first marriage, to Carol Shepp, ended in [[divorce]] in 1980 after 15 years, of which he spent five in captivity. McCain admitted responsibility for the breakup.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/rules021299.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His second and current wife is Cindy Lou Hensley, to whom he has been married for 28 years.  His son John Sidney IV is a Midshipman at the [[United States Naval Academy]], Annapolis, and his son James is a non-commissioned officer in the [[United States Marine Corps]], who is serving in [[Iraq]] as part of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]].  Also, the McCains adopted a ten-week old baby girl in 1993, who they named Bridget, from [[Mother Teresa]]'s orphanage in [[Bangladesh]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3183 Bridget McCain Biography] Rightpundits.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/109022008.htm Bridget vs Sonia: McCain vs Rajiv Gandhi] News Analysis India&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Cindy McCain was in the country as part of the American Voluntary Medical Team &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-bio,1,2151434.story Bio of Cindy McCain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in response to the 1991 [[Bangladesh]] cyclone.&lt;br /&gt;
===McCain's family===&lt;br /&gt;
*Wife Cindy &lt;br /&gt;
*4 sons &lt;br /&gt;
**Douglas &lt;br /&gt;
**Andrew &lt;br /&gt;
**John (''&amp;quot;Jack&amp;quot;'') Sidney IV &lt;br /&gt;
**James &lt;br /&gt;
*3 daughters&lt;br /&gt;
**Sidney&lt;br /&gt;
**Meghan&lt;br /&gt;
**Bridget &lt;br /&gt;
*Parents &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Admiral]] John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from [[Indiana]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Roberta McCain|Roberta Wright McCain]] (from [[Oklahoma]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Faith of My Fathers'' (Random House; 1999) ISBN 0-3755-0191-6&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Odysseus in America'' (Scribner; 2002) ISBN 0-7432-1156-1&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Worth Fighting For: A Memoir'' (Diane Publ. Co; 2002) ISBN 0-7567-6759-8&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Medal of Honor'' (Artisan; 2003) ISBN 1-5796-5240-9&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life'' (Random House; 2004) ISBN 1-4000-6030-3&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember'' (Random House; 2005) ISBN 1-4000-6412-0&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them'' (Twelve; 2007) ISBN 0-4466-9911-X&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCain, John [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513224&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''My six years of hell: John McCain recalls life as a prisoner of war in Vietnam''] 8 February 2008 [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 9 February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Previous Breaking News/John McCain|Articles about John McCain from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[White House]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cindy McCain]], spouse of John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberta McCain]], mother of John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsckD9trn4&amp;amp;eurl=http://evangelicalsformccain.org/meetthesenator.htm ''John McCain: Courageous Service''] - Streaming video documentary hosted at YouTube, including footage of McCain's time as a POW and the Forrestal incident. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://evangelicalsformccain.org/index.htm Evangelicals for McCain] - Christians, Families and Patriots for John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://studentsformccain08.blogspot.com/ Students for McCain 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/mccains-mom-pop.html McCain's Mom Pops Off]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rd.com/national-interest/people-and-politics/our-interview-with-sen-john-mccain/article.html Presidential Candidate John McCain on the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Casmier.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Senator John McCain, R-Arizona''']] '''John Sidney McCain III''' (born in the U.S. [[Panama Canal]] Zone, August 29, 1936) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m0003http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Button_enter.png Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, is the Republican nominee for President in 2008, prominent maverick politician and Vietnam War hero, and is the senior [[United States Senate|Senator]] of [[Arizona]]. He has been an influential leader in American politics since 1986, when he ran for office crusading against corruption, attacking pork barrel spending and working for campaign finance reform.  He was defeated by [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2008 kept his distance from the president, despite efforts of Democrats to paint the two as close allies.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a pilot for the United States Navy and former Prisoner-of-War (POW), he served in the military for 22 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m000303 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain, a [[Baptist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296973,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has impressive credentials on issues of foreign policy and national security, which have propelled him in the forefront of national politics as both an outspoken voice for the United States military and as a Presidential contender for the Republican Party since 1993.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain is the [[Republican]] nominee for [[President of the United States of America|President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 Election]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NATIONWORLD/803050441/0/LOCAL1901 ''McCain clinches GOP nomination; Huckabee bows out''] 5 March 2008 IndyStar.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255535,00.html John McCain Announces Plans for '08 Presidential Candidacy on 'Late Night With David Letterman'], Associated Press, 1 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's family has a long history of military service, including ancestors who fought as army soldiers in the Indian Wars, [[American Revolutionary War]], [[War of 1812]], for the Confederate States of America in the [[American Civil War]], and in [[World War I]]. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking United States Navy admirals. In addition, McCain's two sons are currently serving in the U.S. Navy. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1951, the McCain family moved to Northern [[Virginia]] and he attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. McCain was on the wrestling team and went on to graduate in 1954. He later joined the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in 1958.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Military career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain 1965.jpg|left|thumb|200px|McCain photographed in 1965]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain served heroically in the [[United States Navy]] from 1958 to 1981. He spent two and a half years as a naval aviator in training at the Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas. By 1967, McCain was a veteran pilot aboard the ''USS Forrestal'' aircraft carrier off the coast of Vietnam. On 29 July 1967, while preparing to take off on a bombing run over North Vietnam, a missile accidentally fired from another plane, hitting the fuel tanks on McCain's aircraft and triggering explosions and a fire. McCain escaped from his plane by crawling onto the nose of the aircraft and diving on to the ship's deck which was ablaze from burning fuel. His attempt to rescue a fellow pilot whose flight suit was on fire was prevented when McCain was blown over by further explosions. When the fire was contained 24 hours later, 134 men had been killed and hundreds more injured. It was called the worst non-combat-related accident in U.S. naval history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=526451&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The coronation of the ultimate survivor, John McCain''] 5 March 2008 [[Daily Mail]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-Of-War (1967 - 1973)===&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 26, 1967, as McCain was flying over Hanoi's Thermal Power Plant during his 23rd bombing mission, he was shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese. He had just released his bombs when [[A-4 Skyhawk|his plane]] was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. As he ejected, unconscious from the accident, he broke his knee and both arms and descended by parachute into a lake. When he floated ashore, Vietnamese locals spit and kicked him, nearly killing him. The police took him to Hoa Loa Prison where he was held in solitary captivity without medical attention or sufficient food. During brutal interrogations, he was asked for information in return for medical care. McCain refused, giving only his name and date of birth. When it was discovered that he was the son of a top U.S. Admiral, he was given medical care. Hospital personnel never believed he would survive, as he had large wounds and weighed a mere 100 lbs. He also had completely white hair, a product of accelerated aging under harsh conditions. Nonetheless, his health improved and McCain was held as a Prisoner-Of-War (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton. As a prisoner, guards tortured him with frequent beatings and painful contortions, breaking his teeth and bones. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After months of beating sessions and intense interrogations, McCain was psychologically and physically weakened. At one point, he was forced to sign a statement which made claims exonerating his captors of inhumane treatment. The paper was intended for use as propaganda, but in all their subsequent attempts for promoting a &amp;quot;humane&amp;quot; image of the POW camp, McCain worked his hardest to thwart them. In 1971, four years from his capture, he was placed with 20 to 30 other Americans in better treatment. They were allowed to celebrate Christian holidays, including Christmas. McCain, who served as an impromptu chaplain, recalled that during their services, men cried; &amp;quot;They were tears of joy that for the first time... we were able to celebrate Christmas together.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of his father's high military status, McCain was offered early release, which he adamantly refused in honor of the &amp;quot;First in, first out&amp;quot; clause of the POW Code of Conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 14, 1973, after five and a half years of imprisonment, McCain was released alongside 106 other pilots under the Nixon administration. McCain received a heartfelt reception at the White House and was pronounced a war hero and eminent voice for the Vietnam War.  Awards from the military followed, including the Legion of Merit, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, a [[Purple Heart]], the [[Distinguished Flying Cross]], and the Vietnamese Legion of Honor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain's severe war injuries prevent him today from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return to the Navy (1973 - 1981)===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--He was recovering and studying until about  1975. 1982 was the beginning of his Congress years--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Vietnam War and his military service remained strong in McCain's memory. He immediately wanted to rejoin the Navy, and spent years preparing with excruciating physical therapy and a year of study in the Naval War College, where he attacked the liberal anti-war movement for weakening the morale of his fellow POWs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kirkpatrick, David D. &amp;quot;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/14/america/15pows.php In '74 thesis, the seeds of McCain's war views.]&amp;quot; The New York Times (June 15, 2008) p. A1.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With his extensive experience in the Navy's Aviation division, he was selected to reform the flying fleet as Commanding Officer. John McCain quickly transformed his crew's personnel, which had been underfunded in the post-Vietnam era. Carl Smith, who served under McCain, stated, &amp;quot;He immediately began making changes. He fired people, and he replaced people at the top who he thought were not being as effective as he wanted them to be. He wanted real leadership. He wanted the squadron to come to life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 57&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many in his staff were disappointed to have him leave, and praised his work in promoting efficiency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Command of a training squadron (1976-77), gave him some executive experience, which his supporters contrast to [[Barack Obama]]'s lack of any executive experience whatsoever. Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate [[Mike Huckabee]] said that this experience should be valued because just one choice he makes in that position could have disastrous consequences.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his assignment to the Senate as the Navy's liaison, 1977-81, McCain began to join the ranks of politicians. He transformed the position from a rather unimportant post into one of authority and respect{{fact}}, gaining allies in the Senate. The Senate liaison role provided a learning experience in national security policy and foreign affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political career==&lt;br /&gt;
===Congressional (1982 - 1986)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to entering public service, McCain worked in [[Phoenix]] for his father-in-law's company, Hensley &amp;amp; Co, which was an Anheuser-Busch beer wholesaler and distributor. With nagging injuries and limited physical mobility, McCain realized he would never become a four-star general like his forefathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography (1936-)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some biographers argue that he shifted into politics so that he could achieve the equivalent in politics, leading to his Senatorial career. After gaining support from local business leaders, he ran for a congressional seat for Arizona's 1st congressional district as a Republican in 1982. His [[liberal]] opponents labeled him as a &amp;quot;carpetbagger&amp;quot;. McCain responded to a voter making the charge of &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot; saying,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With the endorsements of local newspapers, McCain easily won the election. In 1983, he became President of the Republican freshman class of representatives. At the time, he largely supported Reagan's hard stance against the [[Soviet Union]], his tax cuts and matters on Indian Affairs. He did, however, break with the President on the decision to place a U.S. military presence in Lebanon, saying {{cquote|''I do not foresee obtainable objectives in Lebanon; I believe the longer we stay, the more difficult it will be to leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 100&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} During his four years in [[Congress]], McCain and his wife Cindy had three children.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senatorial (1986 - Present)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Reagan mccain.jpg|left|thumb|300px|3/3/1987 President Reagan and Nancy Reagan greet John McCain in the Blue Room during a dinner for newly elected members of the 100th Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Republican and [[conservative]] icon [[Barry Goldwater]] retired from the United States Senate in Arizona in 1986, Congressman McCain announced his candidacy for the seat. He easily won the election, defeating his Democratic opponent Richard Kimball by 20 percentage points. When entering the Senate, he became a member of the powerful Armed Services Committee and he also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. During the 1988 Presidential Election, McCain was named chairman of Veterans for Bush. In 1991, Senator McCain became part of the &amp;quot;Keating Five&amp;quot; scandal, where McCain and four other Senators (all Democrats) were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received approximately $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined that McCain was not involved in any wrongdoing, and McCain, along with the four other Senators, was not charged with any crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; Image in the Senate====&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has gained a reputation as a &amp;quot;maverick&amp;quot; for his sponsorship of many bills and leadership on almost every issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic [[Wisconsin]] Senator [[Russ Feingold]] on campaign finance reform. The McCain-Feingold bill banned &amp;quot;soft money&amp;quot;. It passed and was signed into law on November 6th, 2002, by President Bush. In the 1990's, McCain gained attention for his strong opposition to pork barrel spending. He championed the 1996 Line Item Veto Act, which gave the President the power to veto individual spending items. However, in 1998, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled the act unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;
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Voteview.com rated McCain as the second most conservative Senator in the 109th Congress (Jan. 2005 - Jan. 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://voteview.com/SEN109.HTM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time in 2007, according to Congressional Quarterly's &amp;quot;Presidential Support Scores&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/512/ Politifact fact checks McCain's voting support&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Issues include making the Bush tax cuts permanent (even though he originally opposed and voted against them), energy independence, winning the war in Iraq, reforming Social Security, and continuing and expanding Bush's supply-side economic policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, McCain asked for $0 in earmarks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database 2008 ''Pig Book''], Council for Citizens Against Government Waste&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 100% in 2007 (88% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain launched his first campaign for President in 2000, when he challenged then-[[Texas]] Governor [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican nomination. McCain's campaign was surprisingly strong. By ignoring the [[Iowa Caucus]], he was able to win the [[New Hampshire]] Primary by nineteen percentage points. He then won the [[Michigan]] Primary. However, he went on to lose [[South Carolina]] and 9 out of the 13 [[Super Tuesday]] states. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following McCain's loss in the 2000 Presidential primary and reports of dirty tricks in [[South Carolina]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/21/the_anatomy_of_a_smear_campaign/ The anatomy of a smear campaign,  March 21, 2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2007/12/30/top-romney-advisor-tied-to-anonymous-attacks-of-previous-presidential-primary/ Top Romney advisor tied to anonymous attacks of previous presidential primary, December 30, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, McCain began to disagree with President Bush on many issues, such as tax cuts, climate change, and gun legislation. After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]], McCain wrote legislation that created the 9/11 Commission, while he and Democratic Senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security. In May 2005, McCain led the so-called &amp;quot;[[Gang of 14]]&amp;quot; in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;. McCain also co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform (see below under political record for details).   In addition to bipartisan work in the Senate, it was during this period that McCain was courted by the Senate Democrats, and considered switching parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:McCain_nomination.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain accepting his party's presidential nomination, 09/04/08]] McCain announced his run for President in the highly volatile 2008 Republican primary early in 2007 at New Hampshire. Throughout the early months, the debates represented a splintered Party among the strong Christian constituency (Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee), anti-immigration activists (Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo), and the blockbuster fundraising by Mitt Romney and Giuliani, who appeared to be media favorites upon entry. Mitt Romney raised $23 million in the first three months of 2007, for instance, three times that of Sen. McCain. In addition, McCain's refusal to sign pacts with important donors and his distaste for political fundraising&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;often left him at odds with the other candidates, namely Rudy Giuliani, who amassed over $10 million in March 2007 alone.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;amp;sid=aZ7SuEo0wuMM&amp;amp;refer=home&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain failed to win strong support because of his maverick image, especially with difficult relationships with key Christian leaders. Social conservatives flocked to Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee with strong disfavor for McCain because of his mixed statements on abortion and religious initiatives. Many evangelicals remained reluctant to support McCain because of longstanding offense he had raised during his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush; news had been raised that many influential Christian organizations would schism from the GOP if they did not reconcile relationships with the Republican Party nominee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luo, Michael. &amp;quot;Evangelicals see Dilemma in GOP Field.&amp;quot; July 8, 2007. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain also suffered from his strong support for the Iraq war, which had erupted in sharp violence during early 2007, and was attacked for his position on immigration reform, a hotly-debated issue among conservatives. A damaging false story by the New York Times, which claimed McCain had an affair with a lobbyist, hurt his stature. &lt;br /&gt;
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When news had spread that McCain's campaign bankrupted and &amp;quot;imploded&amp;quot; in the summer of 2007, the Republican nomination began a period of quick shifting; other candidates began to soar in the polls, detracting McCain's support. Rudy Giuliani, who collected a strong following based on his leadership as &amp;quot;America's Mayor&amp;quot;, began to court evangelical Christians who felt uneasy about McCain, gaining the endorsement of televangelist Pat Robertson. However, as his less-than-flattering personal life and liberal positions on social issues became apparent, he quickly lost momentum to Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Fred Thompson, who entered late in the race, quickly withdrew because of lackadaisical popularity and poor fund-raising efforts. Huckabee remained popular in the Southern United States, but failed to win major contests among independents and Democrat voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Romney had the edge in early races, but couldn't deliver a knockout blow.  McCain's poll numbers slowly increased and benefited as the field narrowed.  After McCain defeated top contender Mitt Romney by a large margin on Super Tuesday in delegate-rich states like New York, California, and Arizona,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Neuman and Howard Berkes. &amp;quot;Mitt Romney Drops Out of GOP Presidential Race.&amp;quot; Feb. 7, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18772382&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Mitt Romney withdrew with some protest, leaving McCain the clear front-runner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumiller, Elisabeth, Kirkpatrick, David. &amp;quot;Romney Is Out; McCain Emerges as G.O.P. Choice.&amp;quot; Feb. 8, 2008. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although McCain's proportion of the vote was not much higher than Romney's, he won most of the 'winner take all' states giving him a much higher proportion of the delegate count.  Without Romney's well-financed opposition, McCain easily clinched the necessary delegate lead of 1,191 in March after a spirited yet short-lived fight from Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NPR.org. &amp;quot;Election 2008: Huckabee, Romney Stay in Race for GOP Nomination.&amp;quot; Feb. 6, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18739137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain became the official Republican nominee on September 3 at the Republican National Convention. His running mate is Governor [[Sarah Palin]] of [[Alaska]] and his [[Democrat]] opponent is Senator [[Barack Obama]] of [[Illinois]]. Election day will be on November 4, 2008.  After trailing Obama in the national polls, McCain suddenly took the lead after the two conventions, baffling the Democrats who had built their own campaign entirely on attacking President Bush, whom McCain ignored.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The latest poll results are summarized at [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html Real Clear Politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Domestic Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain discusses his opinions with Tim Russert on &amp;quot;Meet the Press&amp;quot;, 2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Balanced Budget===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has emphasized reducing government spending over tax cuts. He is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of pork barrel spending and has pledged to veto any bill with pork as President. Congressional experience has enabled John McCain to identify items that are unnecessary. McCain is fiscally responsible with the taxpayers' money and created a simple method to detect spending abuses. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9] , http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9, U.S. Senate Pork Barrel Spending&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* An appropriation that is not properly authorized by the Senate and not requested by the Administration.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economy===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a staunch advocate of freedom in the [[economy]]. He has spent his career fighting for deregulation and the prosperity of a free market. In 1999, McCain voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00105&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill promoted more freedom for banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00192&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2005 McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act which would allow the office of Federal Housing Enterprise oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over Federal Home Associations. McCain said the following on May 26th, 2006: &lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports school vouchers and charter schools. His voting record shows support for reducing the federal government's role in [[education]]. He voted for school vouchers for Washington, D.C., education savings accounts, and against $5 billion for grants to local educational agencies. McCain sponsored the Education A-Plus bill in 1997 and again in 1999, which allowed parents to open tax-free saving accounts for their children's school supplies. McCain also co-sponsored the Child Nutrition Act, which would provide federal funding for at-risk children. He has publicly stated he supports [[intelligent design]] teaching in schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069 &amp;quot;On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools...McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes &amp;quot;all points of view&amp;quot; should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health Care===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record and stated positions on [[health care]] are based on true conservative principles. He is against socialized health care and health coverage mandates. McCain supports tax credits for personal health savings accounts and enhancing competition in the health care industry to improve quality and lower costs. He also supports allowing citizens to purchase out-of-state health insurance. In an October 2007 statement, McCain said: &amp;quot;In health care, we believe in enhancing the freedom of individuals to receive necessary and desired care. We do not believe in coercion and the use of state power to mandate care, coverage or costs.&amp;quot; McCain is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/healthcare.htm Pro Healthcare]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energy===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has stated &amp;quot;ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/4dbd2cc7-890e-47f1-882f-b8fc4cfecc78.htm], McCain Economic Plan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “America’s most vital interests call us to the mission of energy security, and so does our sense of honor. And the straightest, swiftest path to energy security is to produce more, use less, and find new sources of power — so that no commodity can determine our security, and no crisis can undermine our economy,” McCain said in Houston, TX, June 16, 2008. He proposes to remove federal obstacles to offshore drilling. Among his major initiatives is the removal of the 27-year old federal moratorium on states’ abilities to explore and drill for oil and natural gas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/17/mccain-slaps-obama-on-energy-calls-for-more-drilling/], McCain slaps Obama on energy, June 17th, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, he wants the states to receive incentives and royalties to drill. The current ban on offshore drilling covers an estimated 80 percent of U.S. coastal waters.&amp;quot;We've seen the impact of it in the form of food prices, in the form of gasoline, in the form of threats of inflation and indeed indications of inflation, and we must embark on a national mission to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain] , http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain , AP McCain urges end to ban on offshore drilling , June 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He indicated, though, that the end of the ban on offshore drilling would have mostly psychological effects in the short term.  At a town hall meeting, McCain stated, &amp;quot;I don't see an immediate relief, but I do see that exploitation of existing reserves that may exist -- and in view of many experts that do exist off our coasts -- is also a way that we need to provide relief. Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
He would support incentives for building new nuclear power plants. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/24/1163504.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain wants more nuclear reactors to increase America's energy independence. He is calling for the construction of 45 new reactors by 2030. Also, McCain wants to increase federal funds for clean coal technology by 2 billion dollars to reduce dependence on foreign oil. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1] , http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1 , AP McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors, June 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports increasing ethanol imports and more production of hybrid vehicles. He is co-sponsor of a Senate cap-and-trade bill designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions. He has consistently voted for preserving the budget for ANWR but against drilling for [[oil]] in the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]] (ANWR), because of environmental concerns.  Conservationists differ from conservatives that 2000 acres for oil drilling is not enough to impact [[polar bears]] in the region.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Environment===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's position on [[global warming]] issues has put him at odds with conservatives. His [[environment]]al proposals are mostly sound modern thinking by someone that understands the enormity of the problem.  McCain says that we can go green as a nation without bankrupting America. Per his website, Senator McCain &amp;quot;wants to leave a better future for our children.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
On January 2007, McCain said, &amp;quot;we continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing this environmental problem. The science tells us that urgent and significant action is needed.&amp;quot; On October 30, 2003, he co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act (S.139), which was defeated. McCain is a member of, and was endorsed by, the Republicans for Environmental Protection organization. His conservative stances include voting to confirm Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior and he is in favor of renewable energy such as solar, hydro, and wind. &amp;quot;Wind power is one of many alternative energy sources that are changing our economy for the better, and one day they will change our economy forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Immigration===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain says that he will secure the borders first and many [[immigration]] issue are still needed but will have to come later. In 2007, McCain worked to provide border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants. Conservatives wanted nothing to do with the proposal and in June 2007, Congress' efforts collapsed. McCain said of the outcome,&amp;quot;I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm] , http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm, AP McCain emphasizes border security, November 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;..I support the same solution. But we've got to secure the borders first&amp;quot; says McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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On Jan. 5, regarding the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Senator McCain announced that anyone who says he supported amnesty is &amp;quot;a liar, is lying.&amp;quot; The senator stated &amp;quot;I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and I never have supported [[Social Security]] benefits for people who are in this country illegally. Any assertion to the contrary is absolutely false.&amp;quot; During the comprehensive immigration reform debate, Senator McCain voted to table an amendment that would have prevented illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security who &amp;quot;are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00130&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Senator McCain stated in a May 29, 2003 interview, &amp;quot;Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.&amp;quot; Arguing amnesty is not a free pass or a reward for law breaking, McCain stated, &amp;quot;Well, because amnesty, according to the dictionary, is forgiveness. The proposal that we had- would require fines, would require back in the line, would require deportation for some. It would require others to go back to the country of their origin&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm] , Ontheissues.com, John McCain on Immigration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the [[Republican]] debate at the Reagan Library, McCain stated he supports the deportation of 2 million illegals who have committed crimes in the USA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversely, in a June 2008 meeting with Hispanic leaders in Chicago, McCain indicated he would push legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.  According to one attendee, Rosanna Pulido, head of the Illinois [[Minuteman Project]], &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics...&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/mccain-discusses-immigrat_n_108297.html McCain Discusses Immigration With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-06-19-4020801806_x.htm McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Pulido further stated, &amp;quot;He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another, I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Due to his support, members of the Minuteman Project, participating in the Minuteman Project Caravan, traveled to Washington, D.C. to register their disapproval.  They made an entry into McCain's Guest Log Book asking him to uphold the Constitution and enforce the law.  After making the entry, the group was forced to leave by a senior staffer for Senator McCain or be reported to the police. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643181/posts Minuteman Project Thrown Out of McCain's Office&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator McCain's position on illegal immigration has arguably resulted in the most criticisms from conservatives. On May 12, 2005, McCain joined Senator [[Ted Kennedy]] (D-[[Massachusetts]]) as co-sponsor of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. The bill would legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million [[illegal alien]]s in the United States and have them immediately start collecting social security and other government benefits. The bill never came for a vote on the Senate floor. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 are two additional compromises based on the original McCain-Kennedy bill. McCain has consistently voted for visas for skilled workers. McCain voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and has said border security should be a bigger priority then the illegal aliens who are currently here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Global Trade===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has actively supported reducing barriers to trade and has shown leadership in the [[Senate]] on Free Trade Agreements (FTA). Senator McCain supports both pending FTAs for Columbia and [[South Korea]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/p/McCain_Trade.htm], John McCain and Trade&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He voted for and defends the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Social Security===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a strong supporter of private [[Social Security]] accounts. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Tax Reform===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2001, McCain gained attention as one of only two Republicans who voted against President Bush's tax cuts. He opposed accelerating the cuts in 2003, saying, &amp;quot;I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit.&amp;quot; He has now changed his stance, by voting to make the tax cuts permanent, and says he would do the same as President. In 2002, Senator McCain was one of only two Republicans to twice vote against the permanent repeal of the Death Tax. He has also refused to sign a pledge put forth by Americans for Tax Freedom not to impose any new taxes or increase existing taxes. However, many of McCain's votes has shown support for lower taxes, such as eliminating the marriage penalty, a 1997 vote to cut capital gains taxes and he introduced measures that would require a sixty-vote majority to pass a tax increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Foreign Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain urges the Senate to pass FISA. “For months, House Democrats, the [[ACLU]], and the trial lawyers have held up legislation to modernize our nation’s terrorist surveillance laws.  Today, the House passed a compromise bill to end this impasse.  While I would have preferred to see the Senate bill enacted, which I voted for earlier this year, I am pleased Congressional leaders and the Administration were able to reach an agreement to reform our current surveillance law and not let FISA expire in August.  I hope [[Senate]] Democrats will allow this matter to quickly be considered by the Senate and sent to the President for his signature.  I will support this measure and hope that politics will be put aside in favor of this vital national security matter.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=a7f9dc6c-da0e-459d-dd6c-91e20a46e1e5] , McCAIN URGES SENATE PASSAGE OF FISA &lt;br /&gt;
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McCain has voted in support of the [[Patriot Act|USA PATRIOT Act]] as well as National Missile Defense. However, he has joined [[liberal]]s in support of immediately closing [[Guantanamo Bay]], and moving all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. On October 3, 2005, he introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment which prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The bill was passed and signed by President [[George W. Bush]]. McCain has recently criticized the practice of [[waterboarding]], saying &amp;quot;they should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.&amp;quot; McCain voted against HR 2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which included provisions that would have prevented the CIA from water boarding prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Afghanistan===&lt;br /&gt;
After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] McCain was a strong advocate for military action in [[Afghanistan]], saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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''We did not cause this war. Our enemies did, and they are to blame for the deprivations and difficulties it occasions. They are to'' ''blame for the loss of innocent life. They are to blame for the geopolitical problems confronting our friends and us. We can help'' ''repair the damage of war. But to do so, we must destroy the people who started it.'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95001375&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is currently calling for 15,000 additional troops to address the situation in Afghanistan, similar to his victorious 2007 troop surge in Iraq.   &lt;br /&gt;
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===Iran===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has said that &amp;quot;We continue to be concerned about [[Iran]]ian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons.&amp;quot; He tried to ban Iran from playing in the 2006 World Cup, citing Iranian President [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]'s [[Holocaust]] denials.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Iraq===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:610x.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, 03/17/08]] McCain voted with the majority [[Republican]] Party and 29 Democrats of the Senate in favor of the 2002 &amp;quot;[[Iraq War]] Resolution&amp;quot; authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war against Iraq and overthrow the [[Saddam Hussein]] regime. In 1998, McCain voted in favor of HR 4655 Iraq Liberation Act, signed by then President Clinton. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm], http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm, HR4655 Public Law: 105-338, October 31, 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; HR 4655 declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government. McCain went on to became a critic of the management of the war, arguing that there wasn't enough troop strength in the area. However, he never became a defeatist advocating surrender. McCain publicly stated that he had &amp;quot;no confidence&amp;quot; in then-Secretary of Defense [[Donald Rumsfeld]]. However, he refused to call for his resignation, saying that &amp;quot;the President picks his team, and the president has the right to stay with that team if he wants to.&amp;quot; McCain became one of the strongest leading advocates in the Senate for the 2007 troop surge, which increased the number of American troops by 20,500, deployed to provide security to [[Baghdad]] and Al Anbar Province. On February 4, he criticized a non-binding resolution opposing the troop buildup, calling it a reckless &amp;quot;vote of no confidence&amp;quot; in the U.S. Commanders and in the military. Additionally, he voted against all measures aimed at withdrawal of U.S. forces and voted against cutting off of war funds. McCain rightly believes that Congress should not micromanage the war and to give the military everything they ask for to successfully complete the mission. He has mentioned in a town hall forum that staying the course in Iraq for 'a hundred years' would not bother him if no American soldier's were losing their lives. This became an issue for Democratic political strategy. The DNC lead by chairman [[Howard Dean]] repeatedly tried to use false statements in justifying attacking McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html, Washington post Fact Checker, April 2, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What McCain said is very different from what the liberal media and the DNC were reporting. Asked in Derry, NH of the willingness to keep troops in Iraq for 50 years, he said &amp;quot;Make it 100&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
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===Russia===&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCain has strongly criticized [[Russia]]n President [[Vladimir Putin]]. During a primary debate he sad, &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He bullies his neighbors and he wants to get a control of the energy supply of Western Europe. This is a dangerous person. And he has to understand that there's a cost to some of his actions.&amp;quot; In 2005 McCain and [[Connecticut]] senator [[Joe Lieberman]] drafted a resolution banning Russia from attending the Group of 8 (G8) international forum. McCain is also a strong supporter of ballistic national missile defenses.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cuba===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain forcefully supports the [[Cuban embargo]] and believes it should be maintained until certain specific political freedoms are restored to the country. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&amp;amp;adxnnl=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;fta=y&amp;amp;adxnnlx=1222106556-zea3cQG12OakFI9P97dogQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Abortion===&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. John McCain has more than a twenty year anti-[[abortion]] record, first in the [[U.S. House of Representatives]], then in the U.S. Senate. McCain voted 11 times on anti-abortion and other [[pro-life]] issues in  the House. Senator McCain has voted 119 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life measures in the Senate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf], http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record in the Senate on abortion is pro-life. He voted for the 2003 Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. McCain has also voted against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00214 Voted Nay on an amendment to authorize grants to carry out programs to provide education on preventing teen pregnancies&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00075 Vote against allocation of $100m for prevention of unintended pregnancies &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nowpublic.com/quiet-campaign-against-contraception Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast that he has &amp;quot;consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs.&amp;quot; And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During his first Presidential campaign for the 2000 election, McCain said the following on [[Roe v. Wade]], &amp;quot;I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07021908.html McCain's &amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has since changed his position, saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain:&lt;br /&gt;
* Voted against a [[Roe v. Wade]] resolution&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-sponsored and voted for the Federal Abortion Ban&lt;br /&gt;
* Supported H.R.1997, the Unborn Victims of Violence Act&lt;br /&gt;
* Voted for four anti-abortion U.S. Supreme Court judges&lt;br /&gt;
* Voted for six anti-abortion lower court judges&lt;br /&gt;
* Supported H.R.3913, to prohibit federal funds for abortion services in any case &lt;br /&gt;
* Voted to make it a federal crime for anyone but a parent to cross state lines for abortion termination&lt;br /&gt;
* Voted in favor of a national network of parental notification.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quotations====&lt;br /&gt;
“I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ann Althouse, Rudy &amp;amp; Mitt Hem &amp;amp; Haw on Abortion, N.Y. TIMES, Feb. 24, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*QuoteBox|&amp;quot;I have many, many votes and it’s been consistent. And I’ve got a consistent zero from NARAL throughout all those years….&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;My record is clear. And I think the important thing is you look at people’s voting record because sometimes rhetoric can be a little… misleading…. As you know I don’t support Roe v. Wade…. I thought it was a bad decision, and I think that the decision should be made in the states&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*“I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen.” McCain explained further that he “will try to find clones of Alito and Roberts” to fill future court vacancies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26539], Letter from Sen. John McCain to Pro‐Life Community Janary 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gun Control===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record on [[gun control]] is mixed. He co-sponsored the Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. This act would reduce the number of gun shows, require gun-owners to purchase trigger locks, and allow federal agents to arrest those who violate federal gun laws. However, McCain has frequently voted in support of the Second Amendment, such as voting against background checks at gun shows and voting in support of prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. In August of 1999, McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details. However, he still voted against the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and the efforts to renew it, as well as the Brady Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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A top official of the [[National Rifle Association]] said McCain has been a reliable ally of gun owners despite divisions with the powerful lobbying group on some issues. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press &amp;quot;...We're not foolish enough to ignore the vast areas of agreement in which John McCain has been a friend to gun owners.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Republican presidential nominee has voted against a ban on assault-type weapons with restrictions which were objected.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Same-sex marriage===&lt;br /&gt;
In the speech on the Senate floor July 13th, 2004, McCain stated “Mr. President, most Americans believe, as I do, that the institution of marriage should be reserved for the union of a man and a woman.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.friendsofmccain.com/news/dspnews.cfm?id=143&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain revealed his decision based on super majority requirements and the current political realities within Congress. “By my count, there is not at this time even a small majority of senators who would vote for Senator Allard’s amendment, much less the 67 votes required by the Constitution. That won’t change, Mr. President, unless public opinion changes significantly. The [[Founders]], wisely, made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend, and, as a practical political matter, can’t be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that. Were it any easier I fear we could not make the claim for the Constitution’s enduring success that I have just made.&amp;quot; Further, he explained his approach to the amendment's ultimate success “If a constitution is to be amended, Mr. President, it should be a state constitution.&amp;quot; McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In May 2008, the California Supreme Court effectively created a ruling to grant same-sex partners equal rights to [[Marriage]] and to be recognized by the state. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator &amp;quot;doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Votes missed == &lt;br /&gt;
As of August 2007, McCain had missed more votes during the current session of Congress than any Senator other than [[South Dakota]] [[Democrat]] [[Tim Johnson]], who had suffered a brain hemorrhage that had kept him from Congress. He had missed over 48% of his votes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lawrence Journal-World, August 10, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is due to the fact that he is running a nationwide campaign for President.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cindy McCain.jpg|thumb|Cindy McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has been married twice.  His first marriage, to Carol Shepp, ended in [[divorce]] in 1980 after 15 years, of which he spent five in captivity. McCain admitted responsibility for the breakup.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/rules021299.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His second and current wife is Cindy Lou Hensley, to whom he has been married for 28 years.  His son John Sidney IV is a Midshipman at the [[United States Naval Academy]], Annapolis, and his son James is a non-commissioned officer in the [[United States Marine Corps]], who is serving in [[Iraq]] as part of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]].  Also, the McCains adopted a ten-week old baby girl in 1993, who they named Bridget, from [[Mother Teresa]]'s orphanage in [[Bangladesh]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3183 Bridget McCain Biography] Rightpundits.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/109022008.htm Bridget vs Sonia: McCain vs Rajiv Gandhi] News Analysis India&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Cindy McCain was in the country as part of the American Voluntary Medical Team &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-bio,1,2151434.story Bio of Cindy McCain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in response to the 1991 [[Bangladesh]] cyclone.&lt;br /&gt;
===McCain's family===&lt;br /&gt;
*Wife Cindy &lt;br /&gt;
*4 sons &lt;br /&gt;
**Douglas &lt;br /&gt;
**Andrew &lt;br /&gt;
**John (''&amp;quot;Jack&amp;quot;'') Sidney IV &lt;br /&gt;
**James &lt;br /&gt;
*3 daughters&lt;br /&gt;
**Sidney&lt;br /&gt;
**Meghan&lt;br /&gt;
**Bridget &lt;br /&gt;
*Parents &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Admiral]] John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from [[Indiana]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Roberta McCain|Roberta Wright McCain]] (from [[Oklahoma]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Faith of My Fathers'' (Random House; 1999) ISBN 0-3755-0191-6&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Odysseus in America'' (Scribner; 2002) ISBN 0-7432-1156-1&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Worth Fighting For: A Memoir'' (Diane Publ. Co; 2002) ISBN 0-7567-6759-8&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Medal of Honor'' (Artisan; 2003) ISBN 1-5796-5240-9&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life'' (Random House; 2004) ISBN 1-4000-6030-3&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember'' (Random House; 2005) ISBN 1-4000-6412-0&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them'' (Twelve; 2007) ISBN 0-4466-9911-X&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCain, John [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513224&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''My six years of hell: John McCain recalls life as a prisoner of war in Vietnam''] 8 February 2008 [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 9 February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Previous Breaking News/John McCain|Articles about John McCain from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[White House]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cindy McCain]], spouse of John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberta McCain]], mother of John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsckD9trn4&amp;amp;eurl=http://evangelicalsformccain.org/meetthesenator.htm ''John McCain: Courageous Service''] - Streaming video documentary hosted at YouTube, including footage of McCain's time as a POW and the Forrestal incident. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://evangelicalsformccain.org/index.htm Evangelicals for McCain] - Christians, Families and Patriots for John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://studentsformccain08.blogspot.com/ Students for McCain 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/mccains-mom-pop.html McCain's Mom Pops Off]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rd.com/national-interest/people-and-politics/our-interview-with-sen-john-mccain/article.html Presidential Candidate John McCain on the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{2008 presidential candidates}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Arizona Senators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Suicide</title>
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&lt;div&gt;This needs some clarification, but I'm drawing a blank on how to do so. Killing oneself is not always suicide. For example, jumping on a grenade to save fellow soldiers is (in the case of mortal injury) killing oneself, but this isn't considered suicide. Any suggestions? [[User:ColinR|ColinR]] 20:44, 14 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Killing oneself is always suicide. According to [[Durkheim]], a famous sociologist, he states that there are four different types of suicides. The example you mention above would be defined as altruistic suicide because it is killing oneself for the good of others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:although some radical Islamic Mullahs (teachers) claim that if it is committed as part of a religious war, the suicide will be rewarded in Paradise.&lt;br /&gt;
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Too controversial for such an off-hand reference. Should be more than a subordinate clause. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 11:54, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-sacrifice and self-destruction==&lt;br /&gt;
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Jumping on a grenade is not generally considered &amp;quot;suicide&amp;quot; but an act of self-sacrifice. However, storming a pill box has been described as a &amp;quot;suicidal charge&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, let's get into it. Were the Japanese [[kamikaze]] &amp;quot;[[suicide bomber]]s&amp;quot;? Is strapping yourself with explosives, entering a crowded bus or restaurant and detonating them an &amp;quot;murder-suicide&amp;quot; or what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 11:57, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Certain Islamist groups such as [[Al-Qaeda]], [[Hamas]] and [[Islamic Jihad]], however, say suicide is justified in attacks against infidels or apostate Muslims.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a number of objections to this sentence.&lt;br /&gt;
#What in tarnation does [[Islamist]] mean?&lt;br /&gt;
#Who cares what terrorists groups say - about ''anything''?&lt;br /&gt;
#Sources: Is there really a quote saying that suicide is a weapon for Muslims to use against non-Muslims? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 11:54, 18 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::martyrdom is rewarded in the koran.  it says that if you kill an infidel as a martyr you get the whole deal.  i thought an islamist was a terrorist who uses islam to justify his acts.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please write about this in [[Martyrdom]] or [[Koran]]. I'd also like to see more about the difference between [[Islam]] (the religion) and [[Islamist]] (someone who ''uses'' Islam to justify terrorism or other nasty things. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:01, 18 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll try.  Im not even sure thats what an islamist is though.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:No one else is, either. Wikipedia failed to address this problem and wound up with multiple articles like Islamofascist, Islamicist, Islamist, etc. We should have an article on the religion + ONE article on political ''use'' of Muslim religious ideas. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:14, 18 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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agreed[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== request for expansion.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any article on suicide would be incomplete without some mention of [[depression]], which is treatable.  [[User:Npov2|Npov2]] 18:39, 13 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime or sin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In an [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Suicide&amp;amp;diff=next&amp;amp;oldid=370357 edit comment], MexMax asks &amp;quot;in what jurisdictions is suicide not a crime?&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe that here in Australia it's not considered a crime.  So the &amp;quot;crime or sin&amp;quot; phrase in Australia would leave it saying that suicide is the ''sin'' of killing oneself, and whilst that would be true, many people who would not ''consider'' it a sin would still consider it ''suicide'', so the definition in the article would not satisfy everyone.  On the other hand, CSGuy's edit would ''imply'' (although it doesn't explicitly state) that whether or not it's a sin depends on one's religion, whereas it is either a sin or not a sin regardless of what one believes about it.  So his wording is not perfect either.&lt;br /&gt;
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My dictionary says that suicide is the ''deliberate'' killing of oneself, yet there's no mention of that in the introduction.  And further to discussions above about self-sacrifice, I think the distinction is that suicide has the ''intention'' of killing oneself, whereas self-sacrifice has the intention of saving others, knowing that one will die in the process, but killing oneself is not the intention.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:28, 13 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal bias ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We're not going to allow liberal bias in this entry, or any other here.  Hence the reversion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:08, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am puzzled. Is it &amp;quot;liberal bias&amp;quot; to state (as a simple definition) that suicide means the act of killing oneself, and then to move on to state that for a Christian it is a crime/sin? I thought it made more sense to deal with the simple fact before moving on to what might be seen as its interpretation in various religions. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 13:47, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It is [[placement bias]] to move that description to later, and dilute the first sentence.  Placement bias is rampant at Wikipedia, but not here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:05, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy just to let you know I did delete the &amp;quot;sin&amp;quot; in the first sentence - but only because it was repeated in the second sentence (so the article had read &amp;quot;Suicide is the crime or sin of killing of oneself. This is a sin ...&amp;quot; - which is obviously redundant). However, Humblpi - I agree with Andy that you deleting both &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;sin&amp;quot; was placement bias--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:13, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Fine - though as a matter of fact I did not delete the word &amp;quot;sin&amp;quot;. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 14:19, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Thanks, Iduan, but I think we need &amp;quot;crime or sin&amp;quot; in the first sentence, both to avoid [[placement bias]] and because it may not universally be true that it is a crime.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:20, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ok no problem, although I might rephrase the first two sentences if that's ok with you - I'll leave the first sentence as is, but I'll try to combine the second sentence better so it doesn't seem as redundant.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:22, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Done.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:25, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Suicide is not a crime==&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's be honest people. Suicide is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world. This encyclopedia is supposed to report the TRUTH. Saying that suicide is a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; is simply dishonest, unless the Consevapedia is aimed mainly at the people of Syria and Turkmenistan. But of course it isn't; the vast majority of readers and editors of Conservapedia are American (just look at the logo). It is irrelevant whether suicide OUGHT to be illegal, fact is that it is legal in the United States and most other countries, and this FACT should not be distorted. &lt;br /&gt;
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I have nothing agaist phrases such as &amp;quot;sucide ''was'' a crime&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;suicide is immoral&amp;quot;, but saying that &amp;quot;suicide is a crime&amp;quot; is a lie, plain and simple. At least according to Conservapedias ''own'' definition of [[crime]] [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 20:51, 22 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think they used to give you a suspended sentence in some places for a botched suicide attempt. There's a dark joke I'm reminded of &amp;quot;The penalty for attempting suicide is death&amp;quot; [[User:DLerner|The user formerly known as DLerner]] 21:01, 22 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: If you acknowledge that it ''is'' a crime in some countries, how is is &amp;quot;dishonest&amp;quot; to call it a crime?  Misleading, perhaps, but not dishonest, and not a lie.  Changing it to &amp;quot;was a crime&amp;quot; when it still is in some places ''would'' be dishonest.  And your comment about the American-ness of Conservapedia, although accurate, is unconvincing to this Aussie.  Can you supply some evidence that it &amp;quot;is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world&amp;quot;.  If so, I might add that into a footnote in order that the statement is clearer.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:36, 23 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: It would be just as dishonest to call [[Soccer|Women's Soccer]] a crime just becuase it's illegal in [[Iran]] and a handful of other obscure countries. Failing to mention the whole truth is also a form of lying.  [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 08:10, 25 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I asked if you can supply evidence that it &amp;quot;is not against the law in the VAST majority of countries in the world&amp;quot;.  How about trying to be constructive by answering that instead of continuing to criticise when I've already said that it could be altered to be clearer?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:28, 25 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: By the way, [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]], you need a remedial lesson in not taking God's name in vain.  (I meant to post this last night, but I got caught by the night-time editing restrictions.)  Fortunately, an admin cleared that up for you, but I'd suggest following the First Commandment around here.  --[[User:Elkman|Elkman]] 11:34, 23 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What are you on about? The [[Conservapedia:Commandments|First Commandment]] states &amp;quot;Everything you post must be true and verifiable. Do not copy from Wikipedia or elsewhere unless it was your original work.&amp;quot; It mentions nothing about using the expression &amp;quot;for Christ's sake&amp;quot;. Neither do any of the other commandments. In fact, I could not find a rule in Conservapedia that forbids this. Besides, &amp;quot;for Christ's sake&amp;quot; is just a figure of speech in this context, and altough it has a Christian origin I did not use it in a religious context here, so i don't see why it's offensive to you. The English language is teeming with figures of speech of a biblical origin. [[User:Harebrained|Harebrained]] 08:10, 25 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Try Conservapedia commandment 3.  It's trivialising Christ to use it that way.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:28, 25 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Try a direct order from me, Harebrained: you will not use that expression, nor any other form of foul or insulting language, on this website, period.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:06, 25 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We should include some information about demoralization due to anti-war politician's activities. During Vietnam, many soldiers began to doubt the cause they were fighting for due to the debate that raged at home, and many turned to drugs such as heroin and marijuana. Considering that this is a place where many military families may come to learn about the subject, we should include a line or a disclaimer which states that liberals and their anti-military stances can lead to psychological distress amongst our Fighting Men and Women, and potentially suicide. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:58, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;This obviously needs more stuff, but I stub'd it so the red link on the main page went away.-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 22:58, 22 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Unlike reality, which clearly has none of these things. Perhaps a random use of the word &amp;quot;glamourization&amp;quot; is in order? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 00:01, 23 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Barikada, I think that's a central point!  It's not only disrespect for morals, it's flagrant glamorization of lack of morals!  I'll leave it to you to add it, but good call.-[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 19:59, 23 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 20:11, 23 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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MexMax - please stop reinserting the unsubstantiated information into the article.    Thank you.  [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 23:23, 24 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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MexMax - any and all talk of whether Heath Ledger's death was due to 'Hollywood Values' should be left until AFTER the autopsy and inquest have been published.   Mr. Schalfly's previous version of the article was based on a celebrity gossip article, and has been superceded by real information from the police.   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 23:40, 24 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm sorry for jumping the gun.  That seems truthful, I apologize for reverting without looking closer.  I thought we were just doing the same edit war over and over again...[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 23:46, 24 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::One point: I think the MTV article should be treated as, errr, second best.  Is there a better citation?  I think we'd rather not cite to MTV unless we have no other chance.[[User:MexMax|MexMax]] 23:47, 24 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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A few suggestions for the list, off the top of my head:  Marilyn Monroe would be a prime (and notorious) example.  Chris Farley, who's stated goal was to live and die like Belushi.  Janis Joplin.  Anna Nicole Smith.  Freddie Prinze.  Rock Hudson.  And depending on how comprehensive you want the list to be, there's an almost endless parade of people who were more famous as part of a group than as individuals, such as Keith Moon or Dennis Wilson.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 08:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I did a search for Hollywood liberals and came up with [http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ this] website. On the front page I see that the cops are invertviewing Mary Kate Olsen about the suspicious circumstances in Ledger's death, David Copperfield has had two childred out of wedlock, Britney Spears is finally making it to her custody hearing to see if she can stay off drugs long enough to take care of her own kids, and Kiefer Sutherland is being let out of jail after a DUI charge. Hollywood values at their best! (Or should I say worst?) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 10:13, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If an MTV reference is frowned upon, I can hardly see a credible argument for references to The National Enquirer?   It's not exactly known for its adherence to fact-based logic, is it?   [[User:Misterlinx|Misterlinx]] 12:29, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why not? I bet they had articles on every one of the people we have in the article right now. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:21, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There's a reason that tabloids are also known as &amp;quot;Gossip rags.&amp;quot; [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 22:36, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The people putting these lists together do not seem to realize that in making a case linking &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;--not coherently defined in the article, by the way--to early death or criminality it is not enough simply to cite examples; it needs to be demonstrated that these alleged consequences are ''more likely'' to occur to those who adopt these values than to the general population. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:19, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Heath Ledger==&lt;br /&gt;
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How did Hollywood values contribute to his death? [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 04:49, 1 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is clear upon reviewing [[User_talk:Fox#Heath_Ledger|this]] and [[Talk:Main_Page#Milking_deaths_for_political_gain|this]] that nobody has justified how Hollywood values contributed to Ledger's death. We all acknowledge that during his life he probably did take drugs and was a selfish individual, however there is no evidence that his overdose on legal prescription drugs was a suicide attempt or reasonably affected by his drug habit. Given that the example is used in the context of death (&amp;quot;Hollywood values are deadly. Some examples include:&amp;quot;) then I think it would be prudent to remove Ledger's entry until sufficient evidence connecting Hollywood to his death has been found, otherwise we are just sponsoring gossip. [[User:TheGuy|TheGuy]] 07:22, 2 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of what significance is it that he was found naked in his bed? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 11:20, 7 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So? What does this article intend to prove? What is its thesis? Is this article intended to somehow connect the unfortunate deaths of some people who got too involved in drugs or alcohol as an indicator that hollywood films are a bad influence? &lt;br /&gt;
Is this article supposed to somehow connect these so-called &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; with liberal politics? &lt;br /&gt;
Last time I checked, Rush Limbaugh had had an embarrassing addiction to opiate painkillers, George W. Bush had admitted to a cocaine problem, and Mel Gibson had such a drinking problem that he was accusing &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; of all the evils that had ever plagued him. These three men, for example, are CONSERVATIVES. Mel Gibson even functions as part of the industry centered in HOLLYWOOD. Why is good ol' Mel not mentioned in this article? &lt;br /&gt;
Is the anti-liberal bias in this article too overwhelming to include even one conservative who's had problems?&lt;br /&gt;
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If you simply blame everything on your opponents, all the time, then you never have to think it through or acknowledge reality. Seems to be the basic M.O. here. &lt;br /&gt;
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I, for one, fail to see how Heath Ledger's accidental death from combining the wrong medications (all of which seem to have been prescribed for him) as indicative of a &amp;quot;Hollywood Value&amp;quot; system. Well, I'm sure the response will go like this: &amp;quot;He was NAKED! Surely, nakedness is indicative of SOME evil-doing. After all, LIBERALS SLEEP NAKED! No God-fearing person should sleep sans pajamas!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Britney is a very famous person, and hasn't she been to rehab?&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn't she be mentioned in connection with &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
Just a suggestion. [[User:MikeSchwartz|MikeSchwartz]] 20:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article doesn't really give an accurate definition of the phrase, 'Hollywood Values'.  I don't really blame you, as it is very difficult, if not impossible, to accurately define it.  I also made this point on the 'Liberal Denial' Talk Page, so I'll just copy the relevant part of what I said here:&lt;br /&gt;
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This phrase means different things to different people.  Simply Googling the phrase gives many different meanings.  To some, 'Hollywood values' means exactly what Conservapedia says it means.  To others, it is summarised as, 'Save a tree, kill a baby. Ban cigarettes, legalize pot. Screw the Iraqi’s, save Darfur. McCarthy is bad, Castro is good. Bush is Hitler, Che is a hero. Save the planet, live in a mansion.'  To still others, it means being very egotistical, not very well grounded in reality, and not having a lot of common sense.  To yet others, it's all about doing anything at all, as long as you're paid enough.  And, by far, that is not a complete list of the various different things this phrase actually means to various different people. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:48, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It should also be noted that the meaning of 'Hollywood Values', according to some, is directly contradicted by what others mean by 'Hollywood Values'. [[User:Urushnor|Urushnor]] 14:50, 13 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are all these actors, singers, etc. wikilinked? Do we plan to have articles on them all? I removed most of them at some point, but I see they were added back. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:26, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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For the crime section, please stick to actual crimes. Maybe there could be another section for offensive comments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:48, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:TBH Roger, I think the linked [[Mel Gibson]] article covers it sufficiently, so - in Gibson's case at least - there's probably no need to mention it in the article at all. But perhaps you're right that there should be a section for those celebs who have demonstrated consistent/repeated immoral behaviour/outbursts but have stopped short of actually breaking the law. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are musicians and athletes included in an article about [[Hollywood]]? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 14:34, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if Hollywood values are in fact a problem, what can we possibly do about it? Make extramarital and premarital sex illegal? Or just force everyone to convert to Christianity? [[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 23:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; star - Jazz musicians at the time were more liable to spend their lives in NY (as he did), Chicago, or New Orleans. Lots of jazz musicians, of course, had serious addiction problems, but it's not really intellectually honest to lump in struggling musicians - many of America's greatest jazz artists never made much money - in with wealthy movie stars. Remove? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 21:56, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Bix Biederbecke is hardly the only problem here.  What about Brian Epstein?  What did he have to do with Hollywood?  What about Sid Viscious?  Hollywood?  I hardly think so.  Richard Jeni suffered from clinical depression.  Do you think that might have had something to do with his suicide?  Clara Blandick was in pain and facing blindness.  What has her suicide got to do with Hollywodd values?  Sharon Tate was murdered by the Manson family.  Why is she in the article?  The circumstances of Virginia Rappe's death remain unknown and controversial.  What has Heath Ledger's accidental overdose got to do with Hollywood or any other values?  What has John Bonham got to do with Hollywood?  The inquest into the death of Kenneth Williams returned an open verdict as it was not posibble to determine whether his overdose was accidental.  In any case he was suffering from declining health and depression at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is extremely sloppy work.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 22:33, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tate was murdered. How is that her fault? Maybe that part should just mention the Manson Family--a depraved group, indeed. [[User:Cisnon|Cisnon]] 22:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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reply to the above criticisms (prior to Tate):  [[liberals]] become so literal when it becomes a basis for censoring things they don't like.  [[Hollywood values]] are not literally confined to Hollywood, California, and, by the way, things like depression and overdosing on prescription drugs are a symptom of [[Hollywood values]] and occur in that group in far higher percentages than the general public.  Please, no [[liberal denial]] on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As to Tate, I welcome more information before censoring it from the entry.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:40, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, I think [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/censor censor] has a different meaning than [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delete delete.]  Now, I'm no big city lawyer.  Wait, yes I am.-[[User:PhoenixWright|PhoenixWright]] 22:44, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Riiight... So, any time any entertainer somewhere in the (English speaking?) world suffers depression or overdoses on drugs, whether legal or prescription, whether accidentally or on purpose, that goes to show that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; (whatever they are) are evil.  Did I say sloppy work?  I withdraw that.  I meant stupid, religiously driven nonsense.  --[[User:VincentMC|VincentMC]] 23:04, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Listing a pregnant murder victim as somehow indicative of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; is a disgrace. Sharon Tate did nothing to encourage Charles Manson to murder her; no aspect of her behavior or beliefs can excuse that, or played any role in it. Perhaps we should list her fetus as another sinner who deserved to be murdered? -- [[User:Factcheck|Factcheck]] 23:08, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Death is a value? Sexually-transmitted disease is a value? I have no clue what you're trying to say here-- That Hollywood is responsible for death and STDs? Or that actors somehow worship these two things? [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:08, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You are clueless.  Drug use and promiscuity are [[Hollywood values]], and they cause death.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:11, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The paranoia in that comment aside, that still doesn't make death a value... Or disease, for that matter. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 10:18, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You're misreading (or misunderstanding) the entry, Bari.  It doesn't say that disease and death ''are'' Hollywood values, it says that Hollywood values breed a culture that ''leads to'' disease and death.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:03, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::My apologies, it appears that you are correct... or at least you were, before the last grammar fix. [[User:Barikada|Barikada]] 14:53, 6 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the new section Hypocrisy deleted? It was a fair point as explained eloquently at [[Liberal Hypocrisy]] I would have asked the reverting Sysop but the talk page is locked.  [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The context of Clooney portraying a US military officer was not explained. Please cease trying to attract my attention, and go back to your own website where I'm sure you will be much happier. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:39, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Context has now been added. I don't have a website. But thank you for your concern about my happiness. [[User:JoeSoap|JoeSoap]] 10:51, 17 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is full of finger-pointing. I realize that Hollywood stars live lives full of questionable behavior, and I agree that they do not set good role models for all of the young fans that watch their movies and follow their lives, but we should look at our own lives, and not be so quick to point fingers like this. Shouldn't we be promoting forgiveness, as the Lord intends us?&lt;br /&gt;
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: This isn't &amp;quot;finger-pointing&amp;quot;, and of course forgiveness remains available to anyone who requests it.  But we're not going to stand by quietly as certain values destroy people.  Would you also object if we identified how smoking has killed many people who smoke?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, perhaps finger-pointing was the wrong word. I'm just saying, we shouldn't piously observe Hollywood stars and forget our own behavior. I would not object to identifying the wrongs of smoking, but what I find a little silly is the big list of stars and their own individual crimes. I think a more general article would be better, and we should avoid a &amp;quot;more words is better&amp;quot; approach, like Wikipedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
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: There is nothing &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot; about this.  Values and lifestyles can cause harm just as surely as smoking can.  Do we criticize anti-smoking statements as &amp;quot;pious&amp;quot;?  Of course not.  Highlighting the harm caused by [[Hollywood Values]] is not pious either.  In fact, it can be scientifically studied.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The individual examples, just like individual examples of prominent smokers who died young, are powerful and just as compelling as more-difficult-to-find statistics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:22, 1 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To quote Aschlafly (look at the talk page for the Mathematics page) &amp;quot;Conservapedia does not take the childish approach of &amp;quot;more words is better.&amp;quot; We strive to be concise as a good encyclopedia should. Godspeed.&amp;quot; Perhaps this principle should be applied to this page. I think everyone understands that Hollywood values are corrupted. I don't see the need for a long list of people who have done wrong things.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can you justify Tate being a victim of hollywood values? Please point to it? I dont want to get into an edit but you cant just add with the tag &amp;quot;because I say so&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's self-evident from the explanation given.  Tate was not a perpetrator of the crime, but became a victim of the culture in which she joined.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:30, 24 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No it is not self evident. What culture did she join? married a film director? Associated with hippies? If that so then she was a victim of hippies values. Her 'culture' lead her to be murdered? many people get murdered and she was targeted because she was famous. That has nothing to do with so called holloywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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Right removing the Tate stuff again. At the time of the murder Sharon Tate has not been using drugs or alcohol, she was pregnant and the Mason family was actually interested in killing a man who refused to sign his band up. Tate was unlucky but it is clearly at odds with other deaths listed with hers as she was murdered!&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow: Tate's murder was just the product of chance, like getting hit by a car!  No, AdenJ, Tate's murder was the result of [[Hollywood values]].  Maybe the initial intended victim was someone else, but that reinforces how [[Hollywood values]] work that they killed her instead.  The entry is staying in.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:06, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I give up, its totally ridiculous. Sharon Tate was murdered, It was nothing, repeat, NOTHING to do with values. Unless its the values of Manson.	 &lt;br /&gt;
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: AdenJ, Tate's murder had ''everything'' to do with values.  And, duh, that does include the [[Hollywood values]] of Manson and his followers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:26, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So its 'duh' now is it? How did Mason have hollywood values? He was in no movies and was a poor musician. How was he affected by hollywood values? Because he was obessed with The Beatles? Who wasnt at that time. He was a drug crazed hippie with a severe mental problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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I thought the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears statement was accurate but it was removed in its entirety, just curious as to the decision.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article just cherry-picks famous people (or...not, in the case of &amp;quot;1920s cornettists&amp;quot; and similar cases), and stretches a granule, albeit a malleable one, miles and miles away from the true root causes of their deaths to make some point that these people's deaths are connected to some Spectre of Glittery Death looming up over Mulholland. How many famous people are there? There must be...untold millions of YouTube phenoms, game show contestants, sandwich shop spokesman, and to highlight a few flare-ups is entirely counter to any kind of legitimacy an encyclopedic volume should have. When I look at that list, I see Sid Vicious, who, as far as I know, lived in the UK for 98% of his life. I see Elvis Presley (maybe there should be a &amp;quot;Memphis values&amp;quot; page). And Sharon Tate...Sharon Tate? Wasn't Manson actually trying to kill somebody else, someone who wasn't there (supposedly a record honcho or someother such person who denied him a chance to be on a Beach Boys record). If that's how we're gonna be about it, and say innocent pregnant sober bystanders are perpetrators of Hollywood values, then let's say those whores that Jack the Ripper killed were victims of &amp;quot;West End values&amp;quot;. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 18:23, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Linus has given us the fundamental [[liberal denial]]: denying that [[liberal]] values have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:04, 25 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''I don't see anywhere in my graph where I denied that liberal values have consequences'''. I think that this whole liberal/conservative jive is basically a distraction, an abstract that exists only theoretically, and even then, as a theory lend creedence by consensus. If these people's death is going to be attributed to a set of industries in a geographic location, then it's already got the integrity of arguing about air temperature. Who cares? I'm not some objectivist/nihilist (probably mutually exclusive philosophies, but often combined nonetheless by people who don't understand them), so I'm not going to deforest the issue by going on some bleat about how we're all just &amp;quot;computers made out of meat&amp;quot; or whatnot, but I think this issue is...not an issue. I'm not arguing at it from any perspective other than one which states all perspectives are already invalid if it comes from a person who cares about things like this. So to say that anybody's neurons are any better than anyone else's simply because of the choices which all the electric 1's and 0's in our brains combine to create, is stupid. Even the whole idea of &amp;quot;liberal denial&amp;quot;, which is supposed to be some kind of searing label which supercedes all the fray of bickering and mudslinging, has been trampled on by reductive childishness that's rampant here. Liberal denial. That's all your arguement is here. You'll say, I'm using liberal denial because what I'm saying is a denial coming from a liberal viewpoint. You define my point of view, incorrectly, sure, but you're still just defining it. Not '''re'''fining it, not clarifying or showing how it's wrong and maybe trying to excise the benign liberal tumors you probably surmise exist within my brain stem, you're just defining it. I should have taken a hint from the logo and realized that &amp;quot;applying logos&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;slapping labels&amp;quot; is basically the fundamental economy of Conservapedia. All apologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miley Cyrus==&lt;br /&gt;
see http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYLnT2kyPIgNUurQ71aNM3EJKpRAD90ARTGO0&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;They include shots of the teen wrapped in what appears to be a satin bedsheet, looking over her shoulder with her back exposed.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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she was not topless--&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:34, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's your opinion and you are not an accepted reference for material.  I provided not one, not two but THREE references that described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot; [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:42, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Do we want to put our cards on the table people?  Clearly the reason that some here do not want this addition to the Hollywood values page is that Ms Cyrus appeared on the Main Page here not long ago as an exemplar of Christian virtue when she spoke of her ambition to abstain from sex until marriage (if memory serves).&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, now she's been photographed topless.  I'll bet if it were Hillary Clinton you would all be loudly insisting that the description &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; was absolutely accurate.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:44, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Er, no. What *is* clear is that her parents and Disney decided to let her be posed in as risque a fashion as possible - thus largely '''negating''' her value as a role model. My only objection is to the word ''topless'' which implies visible headlights rather than shrouded ones. Perhaps you'd like to right about teen [[role model]]s. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::As I said, three references described the photo as &amp;quot;topless.&amp;quot;  However, I've now clarified the extend of the toplessness in the article. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 21:50, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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topless requires that the breasts be exposed since they were not she was not topless --&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;margin-top: -3px;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;[[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;position:relative; overflow:hidden; width:88px; height:15px; z-index:2;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [[User:Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;gray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(contributions)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] [[User_talk:Deborah|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;darkslategray&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; 21:49, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*sigh* Jinx, you can say that some sources said the girl was topless. That would come under the heading of &amp;quot;exaggeration&amp;quot;, I'd say. Unless the editor in chief overturns my decision, I intend to have us all avoid that word. Let's not embarrass the girl any more than she already has been. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's pretty rich having regard to a number of the other accustaions and comments in the article.  --[[User:ElizabethR|ElizabethR]] 21:55, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, it actually doesn't require that the breasts be exposed.  Neither does &amp;quot;nude&amp;quot; require that genitals be exposed.  Demi Moore was nude when she posed for Vanity Fair's cover when pregnant even though neither her breasts or genitals were exposed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:08, 2 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm an easily lead, ignorant Christian. Tell me what change you'd like to see in the article - or make it yourself. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's dial down the fuss a bit, folks.  I was the one who originally posted the Cyrus line, and I didn't intend to start a war.  I used the term &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; because, a) that's the way I've heard it reported today, and b) it's accurate, strictly speaking.  However, while I recognize that in common vernacular, &amp;quot;topless&amp;quot; implies a more explicit condition than exists in this case, I expected someone to come up with a better term rather than a complete (and unwarranted) reversion.  So, maybe we can keep the item, but change the descriptive word?  &amp;quot;Suggestive&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Racy&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Controversial&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Provocative&amp;quot;?  &amp;quot;Naughty&amp;quot;?  Suggestions welcome...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:58, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm letting Deborah decide this one. (If you must apply an adjective, try &amp;quot;risqué&amp;quot;.) Anyway, the emphasis should be on the parents, as she is a minor and not responsible for photo shoot decisions. &lt;br /&gt;
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:We can write an article on how parents of teen stars, such as Britney Spears, Hillary Duff &amp;amp; Lindsay Lohan, have managed their daughters' careers. But do we have a decent article on [[Modesty]] yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::All good suggestions.  And don't forget Brooke Shields and her mother--They were a notorious pair a quarter-century ago (not that I'm old enough to remember such things [cough]).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:28, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As a former Disney employee, I must say the company needs to pay more attention to its [[role model]]s for tweens. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:32, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Call me cynical but I think it's just like any mega multi-national corporation, all that matters is the bottom line. And let's face it, sex (and abstinence) sells. You know back in the studio days women had to behave very nicely otherwise they'd be fired from their contract, then the supreme court broke them up and there went the Golden (or was it Silver?) age of Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
::::And anyway, shouldn't their '''parents''' be more concerned then a board of directors? '''---[[user:DLerner]]---''' 22:38, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While Lenny did die because of a heroin OD, he was a standup comic (Comedian Values?), not an actor he only appeared on TV six times on variety/talk shows, definitely not Hollywood. I'd like to believe the government's horrible persecution of him led to his downward spiral.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the Tate case. Andy, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the story, here is a [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/manson/mansonaccount.html link to it,] '''if you still think that she did herself in because of Hollywood values, then ''by all means'' put it back in.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for me, it makes me sick to my stomach to somehow imply that she was anyway responsible for her own death, that's worse then saying &amp;quot;well if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that low-cut dress&amp;quot;.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Goodness, no, we would never insult you like that. ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:06, 28 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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ATang, please stop removing this item. Edit wars are frowned on at CP, so I suggest that if you want it deleted you seek the advice of a sysop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bruce Lee died of cerebral edema. Traces of a painkiller and cannabis were found postmortem. However, the cause of death was not cannabis; ergo, the link between Hollywood values and his death was not established.&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was a cannabis user, and the health risks of cannabis are well known; even today (literally) the leftist British government has reclassified cannabis as a class B drug (from being class C, the lowest class of illegal substance, A being the highest). It is scarcely surprising that cannabis use - an HV practice in itself - may well have contributed to Lee's early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:32, 8 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yeah, it 'may' have - but by the same argument, UV exposure or asbestos inhalation may have contributed to his death too. My point is - when the cause of death is not conclusive, you cannot point to one single factor. Cannabis is not known to cause swelling of the brain; until there is an established link between the cerebral edema and cannabis use, I don't see how HV caused his death. Like I stated before, you cannot list every death of persons who have Hollywood Values. [[User:ATang|ATang]] 09:37, 9 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rob Knox==&lt;br /&gt;
He died protecting his little brother from two armed assailants.  If those are Hollywood Values, sign me up.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2026826/Harry-Potter-actor's-father-Colin-Knox-visits-murder-scene.html &amp;quot;The father of a teenage actor who appears in the next Harry Potter film today visited the scene where the 18-year-old was stabbed to death trying to protect his younger brother from a knifeman.&amp;quot;] [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 18:30, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Folks, we need more than a few minutes to discuss something before deleting it like that.  Some good new information is provided above, but some of it missed the point.  No one is trying to blame the victim here.  [[Hollywood values]] include carousing amid drunken people, and can often include underage drinking.  Trouble breaks out and victims get killed.  This doesn't happen as often to people who are, for example, sleeping by midnight.  More comments welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:04, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hey, like I said, if Hollywood values include defending your little brother from being one of the many stabbed by a stranger with two knives, sign me up as a proponent.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, that's not saying much, because I would expect you to have been a proponent before.  By the way, before you jump to conclusions, do you know who brought Rob Knox's under-aged 16-year-old brother to that drunken, late-night mayhem?  Or is that question considered inappropriate when the controlling standards are [[Hollywood values]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:28, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no notion who brought him there.  I am not sure it matters, since the problem there would be a young man bringing his under-age brother out on the town drinking, something that is relatively minor and which doesn't seem worthy of condemnation.  But since you bring it up, do you know?  If not, why did you put this up in the article before you found out?&lt;br /&gt;
::::Eh, who cares... it's your site.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:36, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I looked, and can't find that information.  I'll check the CNN report of the story.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:37, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nope, doesn't seem to have been reported.  Although incidentally, while you're reading this, you might want to add to the News section that Bob Barr was nominated as the Libertarian candidate for this year.  [http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/25/barr.election/index.html Story is here], and conservatives are probably interested.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:40, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The account the fight which killed Rob Knox is described differently from your accounts above here: [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1204418.ece]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was going by the link above, wherein a stranger with two kitchen knives approached them and began stabbing people.  This is a much more detailed account, but no less tragic.  His friend thought a stranger had stolen his phone and accused the guy of it, and later the guy comes back with some friends, one of whom starts stabbing people.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::At the very least, this change to the article is in very bad taste so soon.  But again, you own this place, so I guess you get to make that final call.  I obviously disagree with the whole premise of the article, so I don't expect you to take my views much to account on the matter.--[[user:TomMoore|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Tom Moore&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:14, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At best, it's a weak example that doesn't serve the broad thrust of your argument particularly well. As charity decreases, it looks variously: inappropriate -&amp;gt; ridiculous -&amp;gt; mean-spirited. If you insist on keeping it, I'd suggest making a new section and leading in with the kind of qualifications you made above. --[[User:Leda|Leda]] 20:22, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I'm seeking the truth just as others should be here, and there is obviously more to the Rob Knox tragedy than the simple story that you insisted upon above.  According to the more detailed account, the fight was expected.  Note also that the victim's under-aged brother is an Olympic-level expert in karate, and that the fight was in or around a bar after midnight.  This is still a terrible tragedy, to be sure, but values undeniably played a role in it, as in deaths from drunken driving.  We'll say prayers for the victims '''and''' speak out against the causes.  Liberals do neither.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:26, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A young man who has played a minor role in a movie is stabbed to death in London, and within hours of his death you add him to this page as an example of &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. That is '''vile'''. I do not know the details of the case, but nor do you, and nor does anyone. Someone has just been arrested, and the facts are simply not known. Jumping to conclusions like this, and acting with unseemly haste to use the Knox family's tragedy as fuel for your anti-Hollywood/anti-liberal campaign is disgusting. Please delete this appalling addition to the article. It does not do the Conservapedia image any good at all. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 08:29, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There's probably a name for those who make capital out of the suffering of others. Oh yes - SCUM! [[User:WarrenG|WarrenG]] 08:31, 27 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to reopen the dabate to remove Knox's name from this list, whilst I have issue with the page as a whole and other entries, I feel that this in particular is a totally unwarranted addition.  If for no other reason than it detracts from the article's thrust as there is no evidence that Knox ever exibited any 'Hollywood values'.  All you seem to be basing this assertion on is the facts that a) he was an actor and b) he was at a pub when he was murdered.  He was not under-age drinking (as he was 18, and there is no evidence both cited or that I can uncover that he was drinking alcohol at all).  Although not outside the realms of possibility, there is no evidence either to suggest he was encouraging others to under-age drink (added to the fact that his brother, despite being 17 at the time, could legally drink alcohol at that age provided an 18+ year old bought the drink).&lt;br /&gt;
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For goodness sake this kid was tragically murdered, and I for one have no doubt that he now resides peacrfully in Heaven. [[User:j00ni|j00ni]] 19:05, 30 Jun 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw the addition for Chaplin under divorce and I wonder if it's not worth mentioning some of the large age gaps between married Hollywood types? Chaplin met his last wife (Oona?) when she was dating one of his sons. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wow, that's shocking.  Yes, please add that with a citation.  (I should have added a citation for mine also.)  Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, will do so. I have it mentioned in a book at home, so I'll put it up later tonight, with a few other examples  I know are in there. --[[User:JessicaT|JessicaT]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''Ohayo gozaimasu!'']]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy - all specious ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would someone please tell me what is ''hypocritical'' an actor &amp;quot;act[ing] in movies contrary to their public opinions&amp;quot;? Isn't that simply what actors do - '''act'''? This section of the article seems to be based on a very naive confusion of an actor's role-playing with his or her real-life views and actions. In its present form, I don't think it adds anything of value. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 06:05, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: To a degree, you're right, but when an actor profits enormously by exploiting a sentiment which he simultaneously harshly criticizes (in appeasement of [[liberals]]), it begs the question: dude, if you think it's so wrong, then why do you profit so much from it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not convinced. You seem to be saying that no actor should accept an offer to play roles like Shylock, Iago, or Hannibal Lecter. That would make for some pretty thin plot-lines... [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 10:34, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, you overstate it.  A better example would be if a [[conservative]] starred in a movie featuring sex and nudity.  The howls of protest by [[liberals]] would be deafening!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:55, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But, [[Hollywood values]] embrassed by all [[Liberals]] would mean they were desensortised to this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually could you explain this why would &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; be out raged, you have spent all this time saying they like that in their movies. People only seem to care about movies featuring sex and nudity when some former child star appears in them and news reporting go along the line &amp;quot;she (it is always she they care about) is sheading her innocent image&amp;quot;. This might comes as a shock to you but most of the world doesn't think of actors as liberal/conservative and judge their movies on that basis. [[User:DanielB|DanielB]] 19:30, 3 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== At a certain point, it would probably pay to be selective ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point I would advise to only use examples that best show the point trying to be made.  For instance there are certainly many Hollywood divorces, but we have chosen to only point to a few that give the greatest examples of particular excess.  Other areas of the article may wish to do the same.  Drew Barrymore's stint in rehab as a young girl would be a good one.  Ryan O'Neal thinking that Lee Majors telling him to look out for his wife while he was away on a trip meant to have sex with her would be another.  Woody Allen's picture taking, the death of Dorothy Stratten, Morrison's burnout death and his girlfriend being beaten to death by a baseball bat by her next boyfriend, all would be notable examples. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:20, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Crime: Innocent until proven guilty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that there may be a certain level of contradiction here. Although we ''can'' use arrests as a way to suggest hedonistic activity of Hollywood stars, we're mentioning an accusation without proof they were convicted of the actual crime.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we can delete and find other conviction examples. If not we can provide a reminder that we recognize that they are innocent until proven guilty. BTW: I'm not suggesting it's wrong in essence, but it could potentially confuse readers who are trying to understand things.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it just me, or is this a bit one-sided? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that this entire article, from the first line, is very condescending and even slanderous. This isn't an article about &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; (which I am convinced is a made up word), it's simply a list of drug deaths and crimes committed by people who happen to be / have been in Hollywood.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the sources for the statistics are cited, perhaps it would be more appropriate to include interviews and quotes from Hollywood stars on their values. One could also delve into the history of Hollywood, and how it has molded the culture and values that are present there now.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this is really an article on Hollywood Values, someone needs to gather up primary sources relevant to this topic. Otherwise, this article should be renamed &amp;quot;List of Bad Things about Hollywood People.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Charity work==&lt;br /&gt;
I notice that a section on charity work has been removed. If entertainers are in fact sincerely raising money to help the needy isn't that part of their values and should be included in &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 10:41, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, because Hollywood Values are not the across-the-board-values of all who have worked in Hollywood. Do not be fooled into over-literalism, a crutch of [[Liberals]] who are unable to make logical pointsin debate. [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[Charlton Heston]] worked in Hollywood, and did a huge amount for good causes, but were a world away from 'Hollywood Values'. Try reading the article properly! Best wishes, [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:47, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Only some liberals follow liberal style and every other article beginning with the word &amp;quot;Liberal&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Only some people in Hollywood follow Hollywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
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So really, nothing substantiative is in these articles, and it's little more than a shoddy smearjob against the rich (Hollywood) and the Left.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trustworthy indeed. [[User:EBrown|EBrown]] 10:49, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So are you saying that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; refers only to the ''negative'' values of people who work in Hollywood, and that any positive values that might be held by people in Hollywood are ''not'' considered part of Hollywood values? Isn't that a bit biased? How would we feel if people started talking about &amp;quot;Republican values&amp;quot; but meant only the negative aspects? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 11:20, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Daphnea and EBrown, you are hopeless cases. HV refers to the pernicious effects of the cult of celebrity, which leads sufferers to feel that they are above all legal, moral or societal rules. It is, perhaps, significant that you are quibbling with the title and definitions through the medium of an absurd literalism. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:29, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I assumed that &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; would be about the values espoused by Hollywood; while that is largely negative in contrast with conservative values I feel it is only honest to mention the positive aspects when they occur; unless the article ''by definition'' is only about the negative aspects, which is the question I asked. I'm assuming from your reply that it ''is'' only about the negative values. Now I can edit it accordingly. When did asking for clarification become an &amp;quot;absurd literalism&amp;quot;? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 13:32, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Daphnea; it does appear that you are saying that Hollywood Values really are the &amp;quot;across the board&amp;quot; values held by many celebrities.  And when you say &amp;quot;lack of morals and values in Hollywood culture&amp;quot;, doesn't that suggest that Hollywood entertainers hold few of these, which of course isn't true.  They may well not hold all values that you and I hold dear, but they hold many.&lt;br /&gt;
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¬Patriotism is listed as a value disrespected in Hollywood; however, the tone of this article suggest that these values are deemed desirable.  Whilst you may argue that patriotism is a virtue (I will note that I don't agree), there are certainly Christian arguments against patriotism, and I think it is a bit shaky to use it as an example of something &amp;quot;good&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
¬Is Narnia really conservative?  I'm an evangelical, charismatic Christian from the UK, and I am convinced that Christianity is neither conservative nor liberal, but rather a mixture of both, slightly veering to liberalism.  Yes, liberalism is associated with atheism (in the States, anyway); however, this says nothing about the essence of Christianity and the essences of liberalism and conservatism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Productions==&lt;br /&gt;
I put back a deleted edit after revising it on the advice of [[User:Bugler]]. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:09, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Please don't revert edits that '''you told me to do'''! To be a little more conversational, I was following an edit which was approved by another editor pointing out that not everybody in Hollywood goes along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. Likewise it is sensible to point out that not all Hollywood productions go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;. If we don't do this then in the first case someone reading this (especially a child) might go away with the impression that ''everyone'' involved in Hollywood is evil, and thus grow up hating Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. I the second case they might avoid seeing The Chronicle of Narnia because it's a &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; production. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:18, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I didn't tell you to do it here, Daphnea. I said that the correct place for such a statement was on a page bout Hollywood, or about the entertainment industry. HV is not the same as Hollywood. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So what do you think of what I said above? Do you want people to start thinking Ronald Reagan went along with Hollywood Values? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:22, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Add it to [[Hollywood]] [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:28, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I asked you a question. Are you intending to answer it? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I will certainly not answer if addressed in so aggressive a fashion. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:32, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, let's be polite. Are you going to answer my question, please? [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:33, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes. Naturally RR is not an example of HV, nor is James Stuart, or Charlton Heston, or Audie Murphy. Perhaps a line at the start to differentiate the industry as a whole from HV might be appropriate. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: ... and in fact already exists. ''Not all people who currently work or have worked in Hollywood espouse Hollywood values. [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Charlton Heston]], [[Walt Disney]] and many others practiced conservative values while working in Hollywood''. That would seem to cover matters. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:37, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good, good, now we're getting somewhere. You've just found out that there already is a line at the top pointing this out. I knew that already because I helped put it there. All I'm doing is saying the same thing about productions: just as not all people in Hollywood go along with &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot;, not all productions do either. That's all I'm saying. If you like I can move the statement about the production up to the top of the article too. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:40, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, that wasn't so hard. Now all I'm going to do is add some production examples, because productions aren't always about who is in them; Chronicles of Narnia doesn't have an outstanding &amp;quot;non-Hollywood values&amp;quot; person at the helm, yet it reflects conservative values. Again, we don't want to give the idea that people should judge a production entirely on the basis of what stars are associated with it. [[User:Daphnea|Daphnea]] 17:45, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The phrase 'their productions' refers (in my interpretation) to the 'many others' as well as to Ronny, Jimmy, Chuck and Walt, so I would argue that the sentences could be merged, but otherwise that is OK and in an appropriate part of the page. Thank you. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:49, 26 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
A story on Yahoo news backs up this articles assertions about Hollywood divorces. It is called &amp;quot;Want a successful marriage? Don't marry a celebrity!&amp;quot;[http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&amp;amp;cl=8576056&amp;amp;ch=4226715&amp;amp;src=news]--[[User:Hurst|Hurst]] 13:25, 30 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Paedophile&amp;quot; movie producer Roman Polanski ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article describes Roman Polanski as a paedophile, referring to his charges of violating a teenage girl. Yet the article [[Roman Catholicism]] reads, and I quote,  &amp;quot;''in truth 90% of the cases involved priests making overtures towards teenage boys, and not pedophilia.''&amp;quot; So do we claim that Polanski isn't a paedophile, or that the priests are? It's inconsistent. I've removed the paedophile claim from this article before, but it got re-inserted. [[User:MrGrieves|MrGrieves]] 23:02, 1 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:From a technical standpoint you are correct, although he certainly did seek out a very young girl when he could have chosen a woman of any age. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bruce lee==&lt;br /&gt;
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I had removed his name from the list because the people there were included because of the assertion that &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; had something to do with their deaths.  Lee's cerebral edema was completely unrelated to his lifestyle, and the presence of cannabis in his bloodstream had nothing to do with his death.  If you want to add his name to a list of people who use cannabis that's fine, but he should ''not'' be on this &amp;quot;cause of death&amp;quot; list.  I'd suggest that anyone who thinks Bruce Lee represents the stereotype of &amp;quot;Hollywood Values&amp;quot; on this page should read ''Striking Thoughts: Bruce Lee's Wisdom for Daily Living'' first, and then reconsider. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 11:19, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: There's a whole industry of people who have a financial interest in denying that illegal drugs played a role in an unexpected death of a healthy, young person like Bruce Lee.  They're right that the link may not be proved.  They're wrong to try to censor the possibility.  We provide the information and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'm not taking issue with the other names on the list, but in this specific case like this I have to disagree.  The coroner confirmed the cause of death, and unless there is verifiable medical evidence to prove that his death was cannabis-related, implying that this was the case is misleading.  Conservapedia is supposed to be a trustworthy encyclopedia, and articles like this need to be based on facts like medical autopsies, and not innuendo.  There are enough valid entries on the list to not have to add those based on unfounded speculation as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:20, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sexually Transmitted Diseases==&lt;br /&gt;
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We note that one characteristic of hollywood values are rampant sexually transmitted diseases.  we need a section on this to support the claim.  For example: Rock Hudson and AIDS, Paris Hilton and herpes (herpes medication was found in storage that she defaulted payment on) --[[User:Ank|Ank]] 14:41, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Freddie Mercury also contracted AIDS through his homosexual lifestyle and flamboyant onstage presence.''  &lt;br /&gt;
One cannot contract AIDS through a flamboyant onstage presence.  I'll leave it to someone else to straighten this one out.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 19:44, 11 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Proposed new section: &amp;quot;Shunning actors who disagree with Hollywood's values&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The recent hubbub over John Voight's comments about Obama is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood attacks on anyone who dares use their freedom of speech to disagree with Hollywood's far-left ''status quo''.  [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This would appear to be a valid subsection.  The treatment of Charlton Heston comes to mind.  As President of an organization that has the support of most Americans (although it obviously has its detractors) you would think by the way he was attacked that he was head of the KKK. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:51, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How to write an article==&lt;br /&gt;
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Never imply that a sweeping condemnation of liberal evils is &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;exaggerated&amp;quot;. The intro to this article, until I corrected it just now, had implied that Reagan, Disney, et al., were counterexamples which disproved the thesis. &lt;br /&gt;
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(If you disagree with a critique of liberal values or actions, discuss it on the talk page - do not distort the truth. And in the rare case where a conservative writer appears to make an error, contact him for a clarification FIRST. Keep in mind the purpose of the project whenever you edit an article or comment on it. Debates and declarations of personal values are confined to debate pages and user pages.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Renaming suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The title is somewhat inaccurate and potentially misleading since it seems to be applied to all sorts of celebrities (not just people in the movie industry) all around the globe (most recent case being the current main page headline accusing two English singers and an English model of ''Hollywood'' Values). So maybe [[Celebrity values]] would be a more fitting location for this term. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 08:21, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You've got the cart before the horse, Dirk; if celebrities outside the movie industry have Hollywood values, that shows how pervasive they are.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please write about the influence Hollywood has had on the world at large. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:18, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If they don't apply to all the people within Hollywood but do apply to a truckload of people with absolutely no connection to Hollywood, then I think we might as well call them '''American Values''' because &amp;quot;decadence, narcissism, rampant drug use, extramarital sex, sexually-transmitted disease, lawlessness and death&amp;quot; can be found pretty much in every corner of the country. And the fact that non-Americans are influenced by it only shows how pervasive they are. See, that's the &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; I see here.&lt;br /&gt;
::I really don't want to be difficult, but I think this is a case of a poorly named &amp;quot;[[discovery]]&amp;quot; (which, btw, doesn't link to what you'd expect - could you move it?).&lt;br /&gt;
::I think these symptoms had been around before Hollywood existed (actually, I'd be quite willing to bet that they were around before America had been discovered), and some of the cases shown here have zero connection to Hollywood or even the movie industry (which is what &amp;quot;Hollywood&amp;quot; is usually a synonym of). They are, however, all ''celebrities'', and I can readily agree that ''celebrities'' are somehow more prone to strange and questionable behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::And while I'm by God no fan of liberals, I'd guess that the explanation here is not that they're being influenced by some sort of &amp;quot;liberal evil&amp;quot;, but rather that they don't have the [[willpower]] to cope with the fame and media attention. I'm not happy with how Wikipedia is slightly tilted in favor of liberals (especially during the election times), but this sort of demonization of liberals and glorification of conservatives is at least equally troubling.&lt;br /&gt;
::About that &amp;quot;writing assignment&amp;quot; (as you called it on my talk page), I think I'll decline. When I'm not working on Dean's Wanted List (for the News Project), I'm trying to fix existing articles. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 14:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This should probably go on this page, but I'm not sure what subsection to put it under, because it includes booze, drugs, divorce, child endangerment, rehab, ''and'' mental illness:  http://www.ktla.com/landing_news/?Heather-Locklear-Arrested-on-Possible-DU=1&amp;amp;blockID=71448&amp;amp;feedID=171 &lt;br /&gt;
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==OJ Simpson==&lt;br /&gt;
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The part about OJ being &amp;quot;widely believed to have murdered his wife and her friend&amp;quot; should be deleted. We shouldn't try to appease little crybabies who long ago stuffed their ears with cotton to avoid hearing the truth. Just come out and say &amp;quot;he brutally murdered his wife and Ron Goldman&amp;quot; because '''he did'''. Nuff said. He's written a book outlining the &amp;quot;hypothetical&amp;quot; situation, there's overwhelming evidence, and he was found guilty in civil court. It's not fair to act like public opinion is the only thing that matters here, especially when his acquittal was only the result of exploiting anti-police bias and what basically passes judicial affirmative action. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:34, 5 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2008-10-05T13:25:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: gave historical example of gaffes and public/media reaction to them. please add more if you come across them.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A '''gaffe''' is a mistake or error made in a [[social]] situation, particularly one that causes [[embarrassment]] to the one making the error.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[2008 Presidential Election]], liberals in the media repeatedly referred to [[Joe Biden]]'s lies as &amp;quot;gaffes&amp;quot;, in order to downplay their [[deceit|deceitful]] nature.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rhetoric]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;addref&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Articles_for_deletion&amp;diff=529333</id>
		<title>Conservapedia:Articles for deletion</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T18:53:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: /* Deleted */&lt;/p&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Articles_for_deletion&amp;diff=529332</id>
		<title>Conservapedia:Articles for deletion</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T18:52:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: /* Current discussions */&lt;/p&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=MS_NOW&amp;diff=529327</id>
		<title>MS NOW</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T18:46:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: examples of the liberal bias in their coverage are legend, and has been shown on the Main Page many times.&lt;/p&gt;
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'''MSNBC''' is a [[liberal]] 24-hour cable news channel. It is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels.&lt;br /&gt;
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The channel was started in 1996 as a joint venture between [[Microsoft]] and [[NBC]]. On December 23, 2005, ending a partnership that soured long before, Microsoft and NBC announced that they would dissolve their joint ownership of the cable news channel, with NBC taking control. NBC completed a deal to assume majority control of the channel, with an 82 percent stake.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30610F93E540C778EDDAB0994DD404482&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The MSNBC network has perenially had very low ratings. In 2002, the network was regularly beaten in the ratings by [[CNN Headline News]]. The CEO of Microsoft once even admitted that he wouldn't have started MSNBC knowing what he knew now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.com.com/2100-1023-268073.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In June of 2006, [[CNN]] co-founder Reese Schoenfeld told journalist Don Kaplan that &amp;quot;Everybody compares MSNBC to Fox and CNN - when its real competition is Headline News&amp;quot;. Schoenfeld pointed out that the ratings for MSNBC and Headline News are roughly the same, about 300,000 viewers on average and that &amp;quot;by comparison, Fox and CNN regularly average three or four times as many viewers.&amp;quot; Kaplan even joked that &amp;quot;the running joke in TV news is Fox and CNN are news channels with websites, but MSNBC is a website with a cable channel&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsbusters.org/node/5891&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Shock jock Don Imus's radio show ''Imus in the Morning'' was simulcast on MSNBC for over ten years. During this time, the program become well-known for displaying offensive commentary. However, MSNBC continued to support the show. In April of 2007, the network sparked outrage when during a broadcast of ''Imus in the Morning'', Don Imus and another MSNBC staff member made remarks about the Rutgers University women's basketball team, considered to be both racist and sexist. Initially, MSNBC refused to cancel the show. After sponsors started withdrawing their advertisements from the show, MSNBC canceled the simulcast of ''Imus in the Morning''.&lt;br /&gt;
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MSNBC has been criticized regarding the channel's [[liberal]] slant. The media watchdog group the Media Research Center&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.mediaresearch.org/about/aboutwelcome.asp About Media Research Center] www.mediaresearch.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has cited MSNBC shows by [[Keith Olbermann]], [[Dan Abrams]] and [[Chris Matthews]] in it criticism of the network's bias reporting.&lt;br /&gt;
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Olbermann has denounced President [[George W. Bush|Bush]] and the [[Republican Party]], calling the latter a &amp;quot;terrorist organization&amp;quot;. He has called on President Bush and Vice President] [[Dick Cheney|Cheney]] to resign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Olbermann has conducted post-debate interviews of Republican presidential candidates and led live coverage of presidential primaries. In the February 2008 issue of ''Men's Journal'' magazine, a senior executive at MSNBC stated that Olbermann &amp;quot;runs MSNBC&amp;quot; and that &amp;quot;because of his success, he's in charge&amp;quot; of the network.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/olbermann_talks_office_politics_other_politics_74648.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[left-wing]] advocacy group Media Matters for America&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://mediamatters.org/ Media Matters for America homepage] www.mediamatters.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has criticized the MSNBC's commitment to promoting a left-wing agenda since the channel has had shows hosted by [[Libertarian|left-libertarian]] [[Tucker Carlson]] and former moderate [[Republican]] Congressman [[Joe Scarborough]]. Ironically, on August 16, 2007 Scarborough revealed an incident in which people in the MSNBC newsroom ceaselessly booed [[President of the United States|President]] [[George W. Bush|Bush]] during a State of the Union address.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsbusters.org/node/14899/print&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Msnbc dem.jpg|right|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the past, MSNBC shows have featured [[Mitch Albom]], [[Ann Coulter]], [[Phil Donahue]], [[Bill Moyers]], [[Maury Povich]], and [[Michael Savage]], among others. That varied programming was gradually reduced as NBC veered more [[leftist]] in its point-of-view.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2003, in an apparent effort to appear more balanced, MSNBC fired talk-show host Phil Donahue. An internal memo read, in part, &amp;quot;Donahue represents a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. At the same time, our competitors are waving the flag at every opportunity.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mediamatters.org/items/200410290004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On November 5, 2007, the ''[[New York Times]]'' reported that the cable news channel was in serious discussions with [[Rosie O'Donnell]] to have a prime-time show on the network. Under one scenario, O'Donnell would be given the 9 p.m. slot where she would compete with ''Larry King Live'' on [[CNN]] and ''Hannity &amp;amp; Colmes'' on the [[Fox News Channel]]. Her show would replace ''Live with Dan Abrams'', a low-rated program that only recently replaced ''Scarborough Country''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/05/business/media/05cnd-msnbc.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The deal later fell through as O'Donnell leaked information about the agreement without MSNBC's permission.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later in November of 2007, the president of MSNBC, Phil Griffin, flat out admitted that the network has a left-wing liberal bias. In a ''New York Times'' article, he said that &amp;quot;it happened naturally&amp;quot; and that &amp;quot;there is a Go for it&amp;quot; mentality when it comes to pushing the liberal agenda among the MSNBC staff.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/business/media/06msnb.html?_r=2&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;pagewanted=print&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Continuing its offensive against the Bush administration and its reposition as a left-wing &amp;quot;news&amp;quot; outlet, in December of 2007, the network ran a series titled ''Bush League Justice'' with the explicit purpose of attacking the [[United States Department of Justice|U.S. Justice Department]] under the presidency of [[George W. Bush]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://msnbc.msn.com Official Site] &lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.setstudio.com/pages/msnbc/ Photos of the MSNBC studio]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/11/16/msnbc-president-admits-lineup-tilts-leftward MSNBC President Admits: Lineup Tilts Leftward]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/business/media/06msnb.html?_r=2&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;pagewanted=print&amp;amp;oref=slogin Cable Channel Nods to Ratings and Leans Left]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Cable_News_Network&amp;diff=529326</id>
		<title>Cable News Network</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Cable_News_Network&amp;diff=529326"/>
		<updated>2008-10-04T18:45:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: cleaned up intro. changed &amp;quot;is the oldest&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;was the first&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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The '''Cable News Network''' (CNN) was the first 24-hour cable [[news]] channel in the [[United States]].  First started in 1980 by [[Ted Turner]], it is a division of the Turner Broadcasting System, which is owned by AOL Time Warner.&lt;br /&gt;
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From its origin as a cable-only service, CNN now broadcasts worldwide by satellite, with programs presented from studios in several countries in addition to their headquarters in Atlanta. Some regions receive locally produced opt-outs (under the name &amp;quot;CNN International&amp;quot;), and there are also broadcasts in [[Spanish]], [[German]], [[Italian]], [[Croatian]], [[Turkish]] and [[Gaelic]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
CNN is owned by media mogul Ted Turner and made its debut in 1980 as the first US 24-hour news network. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.turner.com/about/corporate_history.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
During its early years it struggled to achieve the success and credibility of older news agencies, such as the [[BBC]]. However it achieved a great deal of recognition during its coverage of the first Gulf War during which it was the only news agency reporting during the initial night of the war. These events led to a movie, [[Live from Baghdad]], which portrays the events. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Coursetexts/gulf-war-arnett.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The network has also been accused of having a conservative bias. For example CNN's Paula Zahn show caused controversy after they hosted several guests, one of whom said atheists should &amp;quot;Shut Up.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== News Anchors ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Larry King]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.cnn.com/ CNN official site]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bloggasm.com/cnn-creates-blogging-policy-encourages-employees-to-engage-in-sockpuppetry CNN creates blogging policy, encourages employees to engage in sockpuppetry], Simon Owens, ''Bloggasm'', August 2, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Rowan Atkinson</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: they were different people, who had the same name.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Rowan Atkinson''' (b. January 6, 1955) is an [[England|English]] comedian and actor. He is best known for his roles in [[Great Britain|British]] television comedies [[Mr. Bean]] and [[Blackadder]], in which he played a group of characters sharing the name Edmund Blackadder who, during the course of four series, played a role in different historical periods.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:John McCain</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Mcliff: /* Prisoner-of-War */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This article seems to have many unsourced claims and needless speculation.  Statements such as &amp;quot;The Bush administration was rumored to have...&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The media could damage...&amp;quot; are clearly not rooted in provable fact, but merely in likelihoods and possibilities (in the case of the Bush rumor, libelous ones).  I suggest the author(s) provide news reports or other reliable publications to directly support the claims and speculation in the article. --[[User:Daniel B. Douglas|Daniel B. Douglas]] 21:56, 11 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why remove the &amp;quot;this article needs citations&amp;quot; thingy?  This article is *clearly* in need of citations, and, quite frankly, serious editing to remove the gossip.  A &amp;quot;citations needed&amp;quot; flag gives readers an extra &amp;quot;heads up&amp;quot; to be extra-critical in their reading - important if the site is to be used by high school students.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 01:19, 12 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed minor spelling mistakes on the page. I also agree that this page is disgraceful to Conservapedia. It has no references cited. It breaks both commandments #2 and #6 as it currently stands, and quite possibly #1. The authors/contributors to the information in this article need to add their citations and make certain they are also not adding their own opinions. Serious revision must be undertaken quickly. --[[User:Dikaiosune|Dikaiosune]] 00:23, 12 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with all of the above.  The article also participates in speculation (what the media and Democrats will bring up regarding his health) and it is factually inaccurate (Reagan was 70 when he assumed office, not 72, and so most Republicans would not use that as a defense). [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:36, 15 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok... so no one cared enough to remove the uncited opinion from the article so I went ahead and did it.  I left the uncited fact because that is less egregious.  I have no idea how to make references look nice. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 18:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Myk, it's lookin' good to me.  You're building an article of facts with citations, rather than gossip, opinions, and speculation - much improved, IMHO.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What is this page going to be? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschafly, all of the things you just listed under electability may be true and verifiable but are they encyclopedic?  What encyclopedia has items on how electable someone is?  Is this going to be a biography of the man or a list of reasons why not to vote.  &lt;br /&gt;
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His age at primary time is easily discernible by subtracting the year of his birth from the year of his election.  His cancer is something easily added to his personal life section (or create a personal life section as I didn't add one thinking it would be gossipy).  His conduct during the Keating Five incidient could be cited and sourced and put in his political career section.  And, as he is a public figure, the Dobson quote can be placed in a &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; section.  There is a way to make this at least look like an encyclopedia article rather than a &amp;quot;reason why Aschlafly doesn't want him nominated&amp;quot; page. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:06, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Perhaps, Andy, you would entertain the idea of changing the title block from &amp;quot;Electability&amp;quot; to something else?  Or, in fairness, we should add the same, highly subjective information to each of the potential candidates? Personally I think that would be pissing on our own shoes.  If you agree, I can create a &amp;quot;Quick Facts&amp;quot; area for your information, incorporate other pertinent information, and present it as I did in the Margaret Thatcher page.  Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:TK|TK]] 17:53, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We could add Electability as one of the Conservapedia debates, such as &amp;quot;Which of the Republican candidates is most electable?&amp;quot; At the very least, it's something I would be interested in discussing. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 01:27, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, looks as if Geo beat you to it, dude, lol --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:24, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a featured article.  The unsourced comment should either be removed or given a citation.  It is a clear violation of the Second Commandment.  There are only seven commandments, we should follow them.  Especially on featured articles. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 02:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Gee, I wonder who made it the featured article?  If he doesn't care, or doesn't think its that big of deal, and it's his place, why do you? What comment are you talking about? Maybe it was removed before I read this?  --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:23, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Political Record 1-10.  And if he doesn't feel it's a problem, great, but I never want to see any other &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; removed because they didn't have a source.  Conservapedia would lend an awfully bad name for conservatives if the leader of the site could just flaunt the rules like that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, there's no mention that his cancer is in remission, no source for cancer hurting Paul Tsongas, and no where in the article cited  does it mention anything about poor fundraising being a sign of weakness.  That's commentary.[[User:Myk|Myk]] 11:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need for personal/family section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should mention that McCain has seven children, of whom two are today in the U. S. military.  [[Duncan Hunter]] is the only other candidate who can claim even one.  [[User talk:Amyz|Amyz]] 18:17, June 8, 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Article says he is Baptist. Does that mean he is a member of a Baptist church? If so, which one. And which denomination was he a member of before. This is only important if Obama's UCC affilation is deemed important.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not doubting that there are sources for the information in this section, however considering much of it is in opposition to what his election platform is, I think it might be a good idea to show sources.  In fact, it would lend a lot of credibility to this site, and raise usefulness.  Any intelligent person would have to realize that McCain's position is inconsistent with his track-record.  This is what killed Kerry for a lot of people, including me.  Who knows what he's going to do when gets to be president, nothing is truthful.  At the very least his platform could be considered deceitful being that it would be in conflict with his actual behavior.  I would say, it would be out right lying! --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 18:37, 3 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Fundraising&amp;quot; section is really irrelevant at this point.  Delete it? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 12:34, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|McCain is a living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces, and has the greatest claim of any of the candidates to be Commander-in-Chief.}}&lt;br /&gt;
This... doesn't look encyclopedic, I'm sorry. Why don't we say &amp;quot;He is the second-greatest American who ever lived (just after Ronald Reagan)&amp;quot; while we're at it?&lt;br /&gt;
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I normally would have reworded it (or tried to find a source so we can say &amp;quot;X said that he can be considered...&amp;quot;), but I see that some other bloke just got a 1-week block for edit warring in this sentence, and I don't really want to join him. So I'll just file my protest here and hope that somebody will pick it up. --[[User:DHayes|DHayes]] 18:07, 12 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Another Image==&lt;br /&gt;
Not that it's a big deal, but I was wondering if a Sysop can add one or two small images for McCain. Like McCain with Reagan, or McCain campaigning for President.[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree, Chip...I will find some, and ask someone to upload them, unless you have something in mind. --&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1E90FF&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Comic Sans MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TK|₮K]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;DC143C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 8 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hate speech laws==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports hate speech laws. Is this really the guy today's conservatives want? [[User:CaptainRoemer|CaptainRoemer]] 11:00, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a related note, is the vocal opposition to McCain by some conservative political commentators significant enough to merit mention in the article?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 19:43, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Don't know if any are criticizing him now.  We keep current here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:52, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ann Coulter's still pretty critical of him.  Her most recent column, after mentioning that it's the end of the road for Hillary, follows with &amp;quot;Now we just have to get rid of the other two&amp;quot; and describes the remaining choice as being between &amp;quot;a young liberal who is friendly with terrorists or an old liberal who is friendly with Teddy Kennedy.&amp;quot;  Again, not sure if it's significant enough to merit inclusion, but she's a fairly influential media personality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, but Ann Coulter is a joke of a media personality. Every time she opens her mouth people wince. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 11:49, 28 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This is not the Ann Coulter article. And whatever he supports he's what we have so we gotta stick by him.&lt;br /&gt;
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He hasn't clinched.  Regardless of the difference in numbers, as you said yourself ASchlafly---the media can't appoint the nominee.  He isn't the nominee until the convention or until he has no further opponents. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He is technically the 'presumptive nominee', the same status as Obama. Can we change the wording so that it is accurate? I would do it myself, but I've seen too many people get banned for changing articles like this. '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 18:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is not flattering, maybe the reality of his position. However, I just read the article on Life News that is credible. As it currently stands, no reference points are made and a different subject, embryonic stem cell is inserted. Please advise for I am to completely change this section unless told not to.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 09:53, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because it's not flattering, but true, you want to remove it?  Keep the quote, and I'll find a reference for it now. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:58, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jareddr, you still need a reference &amp;quot;McCain is also against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;quot; This section does not reflect his true record on abortion. I will add to but will not replace current article. I can clearly tell you have nothing but discontent for McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:48, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::About the same as your discontent with Barack Obama. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:51, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: touché--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:54, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Jared from Subway, like the changes?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Actually, since they were complete copy and pastes and none of it was your own original work, no, I don't like the changes.  First clue that it was a copy and paste---your first edit after pasting it was going through and changing all the &amp;quot;anti-choice&amp;quot; phrases to &amp;quot;anti-abortion&amp;quot;.  Why, I asked myself, would you write an entire section using one phrase and then change it?  Quick google search took me to the NARAL source of the material.  If you would like to do a complete rewrite to bring within the guidelines, that would be acceptable.  But as it was, it was a violation of [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines#Copying_from_other_sources CP Commandment #1]. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:40, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Sorry, you are wrong and I'll fight to change it back.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:19, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You are claiming you wrote the entire section you added [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_McCain&amp;amp;diff=472712&amp;amp;oldid=472465 here] on your own? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:23, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You can't take from the article the sentences with umbiguous meaning and claim copy. e.g. 'McCain cast 11 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues'. Do I have to change to 'McCain voted 11 times on abortion and other child-in-womb measures'. ? No Way. Next you'll be claiming I have turn 11 into eleven because of plagarism.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:50, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::: You seem to be backing up to a position of unambiguous statements.  Are you admitting the greater point that the passage was taken whole from another publication in violation of CP Commandment #1? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:53, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: Sorry, it is a cite reference needed issue and not a delete.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 00:00, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2nd paragraph, first sentence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues&amp;quot; this is a common democrat strategy to link Bush and McCain. I had changed it to John McCain and the Republican party... Reverted back to original. --[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:32, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Actually, the citation showed that the change I made was properly referenced.  And speaking of common strategies---it's Democratic, not democrat, when using as an adjective. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Proof a democrat has edited this section to show the connection between Bush and McCain. When in fact, McCain has had more than two decades of relationship with Republicans in congress and only 7.5 years with Bush. Change required without warring please.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Happy to have both statements in there.  You provide your citation about the voting relationship of McCain and his party, (and of course, remove any &amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; references, if there are any), and I'll provide my citation about the Bush relationship---which is important information since he is the incumbent president. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:54, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well John McCain has voted alongside George W. Bush 90% of the time. That's pretty close. That's not a liberal bias, that's just how it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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This paragraph is complete liberal bias and should be removed--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:55, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Re: Reversion==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I'm not sure we should create a new category; the article extols his honors&amp;quot; I didn't. The category was already there. That's also not the purpose of categories. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 18:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only other person in the category was a Russian astronaut who never fought in a war.  If it was in wide use, I would understand.  It's not meant to say anything negative about your choice to put it in, only that it doesn't seem appropriate in the wider picture. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jareddr seems to think Huffington post citations are exceptable for CP. We don't simply repeat self-serving liberal claims here and I am not talking Minute-men. Find another citation or I delete again.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Re-read the section.  I've added AP report, USA Today, and ABC News.  They all repeated the same remarks by the woman in question.  I'm going to be adding further remarks the she made in an interview with ABC News. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:15, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conflicting Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
Which of the following is true? John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues -or- After George W. Bush was elected President in 2000, McCain began to disagree with the President on many issues. Both of these on the same page are conflicting. Anyone beside jareddr want to comment?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoa. He was married to his first wife at the same time that he recieved a marriage certificate? Does this mean that, legally speaking, he was married to two people at the same time? Or, at the very least, does it mean he was in(volved with) Cindy before he had divorced his wife? I'm not trying to stir up controversy here, I swear on that, but I was just curious because if so, I think it speaks a lot about his commitment to her and creates a better picture of his character. Thanks. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 20:30, 11 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The technical term is bigamy, since he was only married to two women at the same time.  And yes, he was married to both of them at the same time. [[User:Knullmaskin|Knullmaskin]] 12:36, 12 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== NOT A BIGAMIST! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article seems to have borrowed some lines from the Bush smear campaign. John McCain divorced his first wife Carol (April 2, 1980) and married Cindy (May 17, 1980) about six weeks apart. There is, and never has been, any controversy about his marriage except for those who say that he did not work hard to resolve issues with his first wife, and that he had little care for her.&lt;br /&gt;
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Those statements are all lies. McCain came back from Vietnam a changed man. He was eager to rebuild his life and wanted to begin a strong, bold career change. Politics came as second nature to him, and as some have stated,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. ''John McCain: Man of the People'' 2003. pg. 93&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain was resolute on having more children and on improving his condition. His wife, who was struggling with the effects of a life-changing car accident, was unable to meet many of the stressful challenges that faced McCain after the war, and their marriage was said to have fell apart mutually.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''When questioned during the 2000 presidential campaign about his experience in captivity, he replied, &amp;quot;I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.&amp;quot; Later, when asked about whether he meant an ethnic slur, he replied, &amp;quot;I was referring to my prison guards, and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed this quote from the 2000 election section. It is unimportant trivia, and in many ways, it only represents a journalist's spin on an ambiguous statement. More importantly, it reveals little to nothing about the political issues or beliefs that McCain had at the time. Nonetheless, I am sure there are those who will disagree and who want this quote re-instated, so post feedback below:&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems a pretty unambiguous statement.  Where's the ambiguity and how exactly would you spin it?  I think anyone who uses such racial slurs reveals something about themselves.  What section of his entry would you like to put this in instead? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:06, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The statement was spun against him by Bush and many liberal pundits then and now. What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate; you are suggesting that what he said was a slur directed at race, while he explicitly stated that it was not. Also, it is put forward without context or resolution, especially because he apologized and it is written in a PR format. Rather, it may help to identify the basis that it holds in the context of the 2000 election, ex: California was considered a swing state in the primaries, for instance.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 22:27, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think the use of a slur, however you want to deem it was directed, is important, and I attempted to put it within the time line you insist upon.  As far as my views on those who use slurs, how do you feel about them?  Do you condone the use of a slur word, even when the user has to go on to spin/explain that it wasn't directed at a race?  He even acknowledges that it's offensive, &amp;quot;in language that may offend some people.&amp;quot;  If he's not afraid to use the term, then I think people should be aware of that fact.  Perhaps our ideas of what a dictionary is are different.  I believe it should be a fact-filled resource, and you'd prefer to put those aside and use laudatory statements instead.  Maybe we can compromise and just find a good section for the remarks, perhaps a Quotes section? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First and foremost, this is not a personal matter between us. We are working together on an encyclopedia, and your attempts to call me racist or culturally insensitive are unwarranted, uncivil, and downright disgusting. Slandering others is not and should not be your reason for being here. That being said, I would like to remind you that McCain was a longstanding supporter of Vietnam-American relations, and cultivated a very favorable opinion among Vietnamese Americans. The statement in question was not a matter or racism, but rather, or political correctness. Apparently, you haven't made the distinction, as you said &amp;quot;If he's not afraid to use the term, I think that's a problem&amp;quot; whereas the more factual approach would be &amp;quot;he still has hatred towards his prison guards, and expresses it in ways that are reckless&amp;quot;. Furthermore, given the coverage of the 2000 election, I would find it hard to justify placing the quote inside that section; there simply isn't any context explaining the significance or historical background. Perhaps if the campaign was explained in better terms, and I mean far more extensively, this statement could be put in the section within appropriate context.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 09:31, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You were actually the one who first made this a personal matter when you stated, &amp;quot;What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate;&amp;quot;  I wasn't even making a judgment about the quote in the entry.  I was including the information so that other people could come to their own conclusions.  If you don't want it in the 2000 election section, perhaps we should put it amongst his Vietnam service section.  I think immediately concluding his POW section would be a good spot, as it directly relates to his captivity and prison guards.  Would you like to place it there or shall I?  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:40, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Oh, and can you please point to the spot where I called you a racist or culturally insensitive?  I don't recall using either of those words, so I'd be interested in you locating that quote.  If, on the other hand, you can't find the spot where I called you either of those, then I do expect an apology, as it was an unwarranted, uncivil, and completely false accusation on your part. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:42, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the article mentions McCain's positions on Iraq and Iran, how about mentioning his views on [[Czechoslovakia]]? He's mentioned twice in speeches in the last week concerns about events going on right now in Czechoslovakia.... (Czechoslovakia has not existed at all since 1993).&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I reverted the edits, I tend to agree with them as the sections he removed are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia.  Certainly they would be appropriate in a very lengthy essay about the presidential compaign but I don't think it's necessary here.  I suggest we try to get a consensus over the next 48 hours and so if no-one objects I'll delete the comments.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 17:45, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Some of them are valid in the context that McCain has been getting more press lately regarding his gaffes, not because they are simple mistakes, but because of concerns about his age and fitness to serve for the next 4-8 years.  The Iran/Al-Qaeda gaffe was noteworthy because Senator Lieberman had to interrupt him and correct him in front of reporters.  In the past week he also talked about tensions on &amp;quot;the Iraq/Afghanistan border&amp;quot;.  McCain has made comments I can research (read them on Huffington) denying his prior positions and quotes, which are either complete reversals of position or lapses in memory.  Are these actual signs of unfitness?  I'm not sure about that, but including them in the McCain article under the heading &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot; would be entirely appropriate since it has been discussed in the press ans Sunday talk shows as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:58, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I disagree that these should be filed under &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot;, because I don't think they're necessarily age-related.  Rather, Shia v. Sunni is particularly important, and for him to make the mistake twice brings questions to his knowledge and criticisms of Obama over foreign policy.  But to put them under &amp;quot;concerns about age&amp;quot; trivializes them and makes it seem petty, IMO.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I absolutely object.  I think two of the quotes are very appropriate for the article.  The first is relevant in that Obama was being criticized here for the use of the word &amp;quot;bomb&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;bomb'''s'''&amp;quot;, and saying &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot;.  Also, McCain's criticism of Obama and foreign policy, when McCain has repeatedly confused Sunni and Shia, and who makes up the majority of the Iranian population and Al Qaeda.  If you want to delete the second one, I won't be terribly opposed to it.  And the third is important in that much of McCain's campaign centers around his military service.  When Wes Clark made his remarks recently about military service as a qualification for president, there was an uproar.  I think it is, therefore, very relevant when McCain talks about military service---especially when he's said something that flies in the face of what he now claims.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Re the Obama Criticism.  Remember that that was in the main page, which is basically just a trivia/blog section, whereas this article is part of the encyclopedia proper, and thus must be accurate and trustworthy like all the other pages are.  Therefore I don't think its fair to compare the Obama gaffe with that here.  I suggest that the first should be left in as being relevant to his ability to perform the presidency, but the second and third should be removed as trivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The second example, misstating &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot; was not part of the trivia/blog section, but is in the article.  And it wasn't a misstatement, but he stated it on two consecutive days, so you know his campaign corrected him after the first instance.--[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:29, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While I commend everyone for your work and interest, we should remember this generic article is about John McCain.  Saying who he is, how he got there, and what he believes is fine, but individual elements and speeches during his Presidential run should probably be handled under the Presidential campaign articles.  It could certainly be grouped there in ways that could flow more easily. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mention of NY Times Op-Ed rejection under Iraq Heading==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure the rejection of a single Op-Ed piece merits a mention in an encyclopedia article on McCain - It's already covered in CP under [[Liberal Bias]] anyway, and seems trivial in this context.  If its inclusion here can be justified, then it should be moved to a different heading like &amp;quot;McCain and the Media&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Iraq&amp;quot;, since the nature of the Op-Ed piece the Times was looking for spanned more than Iraq.  It should also be revised, because in it's current form it's misleading as to why the original piece was rejected. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:42, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, its trivial fluff and it's prejudicial content is greater than its probative value.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 09:49, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have removed the section. The story itself is irrelevant to McCain's political beliefs, and in consideration of the longstanding cooperation that the New York Times has provided to the Senator, I feel that there is no wrongdoing or substantial political swipe connected to this. I appreciate the well-cited, researched information, but placing the day-to-day events of what is included or excluded in a newspaper does not connect well with the article. It would be more appropriate for the Presidential campaign, but even in that context, it is rather weak and inconsequential.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 11:18, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== McCain vs. Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the obvious bias towards McCain shown in the difference between the two articles, why not just SAY that Conservapedia endorses McCain? Both men have flaws; if you lead with the flaws in the Obama article, and suppress McCain's flaws due to bias, how is this an encyclopedia and how is it &amp;quot;trustworthy?&amp;quot; Yes, I am a liberal, but I may vote for McCain based on experience, but until the election, it would be nice to see unbiased versions of the articles. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 10:16, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We are keeping the McCain article as unbiased as possible as a stand-alone piece. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:25, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And the Obama article? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:26, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Should be discussed on the Obama page.  We do the best we can with the John McCain article on this, the John McCain page. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:34, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes, but the original question pertained to both the McCain and Obama article.  You only answered about the McCain article, and quite clearly stated about keeping it as unbiased as possible.  You have the ability to give an answer to me about the Obama article here, but specifically chose not to relate it to the question, but instead said take it elsewhere.  Since the original question pertained to both, I hope that you will answer both---or let me know and I'll post it on the Obama talk page and you can answer it there instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:38, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::This is the McCain article.  I answer questions on John McCain and how to make this article the best it can be.  Feel free to post the question on Obama's talk page since, ostensibly, that is the article where you have the most concerns.  As I no longer frequent that article, you will not receive a reply from me. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:58, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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My edit to the Personal Life section of the article should not be reverted, as it is a valid contribution to the page.  It is part of his personal life, and it is note-worthy.  In the interest of keeping the article unbiased, both the positive and negative should be included. --[[User:AlrightThen|AlrightThen]] 20:48, 8 August 2008 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm, so men don't cheat on their wives anymore.  They &amp;quot;have difficulties with&amp;quot; them.  Glad you guys are working so hard to defend the institution of marriage.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 19:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Both of the above comments are incomplete, and it's impossible to glean what your points are.  Try to be clearer.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:58, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This issue has come up in the past.  Please see my talk page under McCain Edit and the reasons why your edit is inappropriate.  Then please move on to constructive edits.  Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridget McCain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be conflicting information regarding Bridget McCain's birth year (1991 or 1993).  According to the other reference Jpratt uses, &amp;quot;rightpundits.com&amp;quot;, the site states, &amp;quot;Cindy McCain was touring 3rd world countries with Mother Teresa in 1991 to provide medical attention to needy children. During this tour, Cindy and Mother Teresa toured an orphanage in Bangladesh where Cindy picked up a baby that was only a few months old.&amp;quot;  Also, under the Bio section, &amp;quot;Bridget McCain was born in 1991 in Bangladesh.&amp;quot; [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1636 Bridget McCain is John McCain's Daughter].  Any suggestions for a way to resolve the differing information? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:26, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The India link wasn't enough for ya? Google search 1-70k for 1993, 1-58k for 1991-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:37, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The India link, which was confusing and not very clear, I would match with the rightpundits site I provided.  So two sites with differing information.  And if the Google results were 70k to 12, then I would consider that evidence.  But 70k v. 58k isn't a strong case for one or the other.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:51, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, and if you google &amp;quot;Bridget McCain&amp;quot; 1991, you get 779 results.  Doing the same with 1993 yields 546 results.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:52, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, if your Google search is limited to english only sites, you get 58k Bridget McCain 1991 and you get 71k Bridget McCain 1993-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article has become so long, I think it would look nicer if there were more pictures. I was hoping one of you could upload these into the article. http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/rice-mccain-741881.jpg under &amp;quot;foreign policy&amp;quot; and this under &amp;quot;2008 Presidential campaign.&amp;quot; http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg If not that's fine, but I would appreciate it. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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: You need to check out who owns those pictures first and whether it's OK with them for others to copy them.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:31, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got them from a blog while searching Google images. Hard for me to find out who &amp;quot;owns&amp;quot; them. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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O.K., I emailed Top News.com, which is where I got this image, http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg. They said I could use it because it's under &amp;quot;creative commons license.&amp;quot; [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 21 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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On the main page, much was made of Obama's lack of educational achievements. [http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/]  That article mentions that McCain actually graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy.  I think that this information that should go into the McCain article.  --[[User:DrHubertJNugz|DrHubertJNugz]] 15:38, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So yes, ASchlafly is censoring the truth, even though his edit summary claims that Obama didn't release his college performance. ''Magna cum laude'' is a really good performance. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 10:08, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You will have to take it up with Andy.  Based on the idea that Obama has not opened up his college record for review, a decision was made to remove that information on McCain.  It it were permissible, I would want to see the wording, &amp;quot;near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;.  It seems less sensational that way. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:41, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You mean [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3ADesk%2FAbuse&amp;amp;diff=513169&amp;amp;oldid=510916 this Andy]? Yeah, right, the only result I can think of is hitting my head against a brick wall. Since when does Obama's college record have anything to do with disclosing McCain's? Obama says &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot;, it's jumped all over. Obama says &amp;quot;my Muslim faith&amp;quot;, its jumped all over. McCain doesn't remember how many houses he owns, but its vehemently denied into his article. Pretty simple to see what's going on, but I shouldn't be the one (powerless) who stands up to it. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 14:50, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is just b.s. SamuelHTD. Obama need not disclose but since McCains has, it is fair game? This is a site with conservative POV but that doesn't mean liberals have not included 'not-in-the-best-light' statements on McCain's page. Do we need to include every liberal attack against McCain? Hell no. BTW, I am not expecting your return comment since you're gone. ta ta-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'm baaaack, your [[parthian shot]] failed. If you don't include the information because the other candidate didn't disclose yadda yadda, what's with the hubbub over Obama's &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; birth, with birth certificate provided, compared to McCain's ''lack of'' birth certificate, and doesn't even show on the [http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/Americaneocon/PH2008050201443.jpg record of births]? Going by your logic, we should either a) post that McCain can't prove his birth record, or b) remove all the gossip and ideology regarding Obama's birth? [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 10:36, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::For what it's worth, the [[Joe Biden]] article mentions quite a bit about his academic record, including the current cost of the high school he attended over 40 years ago, and the fact that he graduated ''&amp;quot;from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968 near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;''.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 11:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Same-sex marriage section, it includes a quote where McCain refers to &amp;quot;Senator Allard's amendment&amp;quot;, but the section makes no reference before this to what Senator Allard's amendment is. Perhaps the section could be cleaned up a bit, and a short description included. I know many people can derive a general sense of the bill's content through context, but younger readers might find this a bit confusing, and I didn't want to perform major &amp;quot;article surgery&amp;quot; without an idea of what the &amp;quot;operation&amp;quot; should be! [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:22, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Many of those sections near the ends need some work. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:34, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This article seems to have many unsourced claims and needless speculation.  Statements such as &amp;quot;The Bush administration was rumored to have...&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The media could damage...&amp;quot; are clearly not rooted in provable fact, but merely in likelihoods and possibilities (in the case of the Bush rumor, libelous ones).  I suggest the author(s) provide news reports or other reliable publications to directly support the claims and speculation in the article. --[[User:Daniel B. Douglas|Daniel B. Douglas]] 21:56, 11 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why remove the &amp;quot;this article needs citations&amp;quot; thingy?  This article is *clearly* in need of citations, and, quite frankly, serious editing to remove the gossip.  A &amp;quot;citations needed&amp;quot; flag gives readers an extra &amp;quot;heads up&amp;quot; to be extra-critical in their reading - important if the site is to be used by high school students.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 01:19, 12 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed minor spelling mistakes on the page. I also agree that this page is disgraceful to Conservapedia. It has no references cited. It breaks both commandments #2 and #6 as it currently stands, and quite possibly #1. The authors/contributors to the information in this article need to add their citations and make certain they are also not adding their own opinions. Serious revision must be undertaken quickly. --[[User:Dikaiosune|Dikaiosune]] 00:23, 12 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with all of the above.  The article also participates in speculation (what the media and Democrats will bring up regarding his health) and it is factually inaccurate (Reagan was 70 when he assumed office, not 72, and so most Republicans would not use that as a defense). [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:36, 15 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok... so no one cared enough to remove the uncited opinion from the article so I went ahead and did it.  I left the uncited fact because that is less egregious.  I have no idea how to make references look nice. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 18:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Myk, it's lookin' good to me.  You're building an article of facts with citations, rather than gossip, opinions, and speculation - much improved, IMHO.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What is this page going to be? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschafly, all of the things you just listed under electability may be true and verifiable but are they encyclopedic?  What encyclopedia has items on how electable someone is?  Is this going to be a biography of the man or a list of reasons why not to vote.  &lt;br /&gt;
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His age at primary time is easily discernible by subtracting the year of his birth from the year of his election.  His cancer is something easily added to his personal life section (or create a personal life section as I didn't add one thinking it would be gossipy).  His conduct during the Keating Five incidient could be cited and sourced and put in his political career section.  And, as he is a public figure, the Dobson quote can be placed in a &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; section.  There is a way to make this at least look like an encyclopedia article rather than a &amp;quot;reason why Aschlafly doesn't want him nominated&amp;quot; page. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:06, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Perhaps, Andy, you would entertain the idea of changing the title block from &amp;quot;Electability&amp;quot; to something else?  Or, in fairness, we should add the same, highly subjective information to each of the potential candidates? Personally I think that would be pissing on our own shoes.  If you agree, I can create a &amp;quot;Quick Facts&amp;quot; area for your information, incorporate other pertinent information, and present it as I did in the Margaret Thatcher page.  Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:TK|TK]] 17:53, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We could add Electability as one of the Conservapedia debates, such as &amp;quot;Which of the Republican candidates is most electable?&amp;quot; At the very least, it's something I would be interested in discussing. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 01:27, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, looks as if Geo beat you to it, dude, lol --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:24, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a featured article.  The unsourced comment should either be removed or given a citation.  It is a clear violation of the Second Commandment.  There are only seven commandments, we should follow them.  Especially on featured articles. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 02:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Gee, I wonder who made it the featured article?  If he doesn't care, or doesn't think its that big of deal, and it's his place, why do you? What comment are you talking about? Maybe it was removed before I read this?  --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:23, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Political Record 1-10.  And if he doesn't feel it's a problem, great, but I never want to see any other &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; removed because they didn't have a source.  Conservapedia would lend an awfully bad name for conservatives if the leader of the site could just flaunt the rules like that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, there's no mention that his cancer is in remission, no source for cancer hurting Paul Tsongas, and no where in the article cited  does it mention anything about poor fundraising being a sign of weakness.  That's commentary.[[User:Myk|Myk]] 11:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should mention that McCain has seven children, of whom two are today in the U. S. military.  [[Duncan Hunter]] is the only other candidate who can claim even one.  [[User talk:Amyz|Amyz]] 18:17, June 8, 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not doubting that there are sources for the information in this section, however considering much of it is in opposition to what his election platform is, I think it might be a good idea to show sources.  In fact, it would lend a lot of credibility to this site, and raise usefulness.  Any intelligent person would have to realize that McCain's position is inconsistent with his track-record.  This is what killed Kerry for a lot of people, including me.  Who knows what he's going to do when gets to be president, nothing is truthful.  At the very least his platform could be considered deceitful being that it would be in conflict with his actual behavior.  I would say, it would be out right lying! --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 18:37, 3 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Fundraising&amp;quot; section is really irrelevant at this point.  Delete it? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 12:34, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This... doesn't look encyclopedic, I'm sorry. Why don't we say &amp;quot;He is the second-greatest American who ever lived (just after Ronald Reagan)&amp;quot; while we're at it?&lt;br /&gt;
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I normally would have reworded it (or tried to find a source so we can say &amp;quot;X said that he can be considered...&amp;quot;), but I see that some other bloke just got a 1-week block for edit warring in this sentence, and I don't really want to join him. So I'll just file my protest here and hope that somebody will pick it up. --[[User:DHayes|DHayes]] 18:07, 12 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that it's a big deal, but I was wondering if a Sysop can add one or two small images for McCain. Like McCain with Reagan, or McCain campaigning for President.[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree, Chip...I will find some, and ask someone to upload them, unless you have something in mind. --&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1E90FF&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Comic Sans MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TK|₮K]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;DC143C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 8 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hate speech laws==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports hate speech laws. Is this really the guy today's conservatives want? [[User:CaptainRoemer|CaptainRoemer]] 11:00, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Don't know if any are criticizing him now.  We keep current here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:52, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ann Coulter's still pretty critical of him.  Her most recent column, after mentioning that it's the end of the road for Hillary, follows with &amp;quot;Now we just have to get rid of the other two&amp;quot; and describes the remaining choice as being between &amp;quot;a young liberal who is friendly with terrorists or an old liberal who is friendly with Teddy Kennedy.&amp;quot;  Again, not sure if it's significant enough to merit inclusion, but she's a fairly influential media personality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, but Ann Coulter is a joke of a media personality. Every time she opens her mouth people wince. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 11:49, 28 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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He hasn't clinched.  Regardless of the difference in numbers, as you said yourself ASchlafly---the media can't appoint the nominee.  He isn't the nominee until the convention or until he has no further opponents. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He is technically the 'presumptive nominee', the same status as Obama. Can we change the wording so that it is accurate? I would do it myself, but I've seen too many people get banned for changing articles like this. '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 18:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is not flattering, maybe the reality of his position. However, I just read the article on Life News that is credible. As it currently stands, no reference points are made and a different subject, embryonic stem cell is inserted. Please advise for I am to completely change this section unless told not to.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 09:53, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because it's not flattering, but true, you want to remove it?  Keep the quote, and I'll find a reference for it now. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:58, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jareddr, you still need a reference &amp;quot;McCain is also against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;quot; This section does not reflect his true record on abortion. I will add to but will not replace current article. I can clearly tell you have nothing but discontent for McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:48, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::About the same as your discontent with Barack Obama. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:51, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Jared from Subway, like the changes?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Actually, since they were complete copy and pastes and none of it was your own original work, no, I don't like the changes.  First clue that it was a copy and paste---your first edit after pasting it was going through and changing all the &amp;quot;anti-choice&amp;quot; phrases to &amp;quot;anti-abortion&amp;quot;.  Why, I asked myself, would you write an entire section using one phrase and then change it?  Quick google search took me to the NARAL source of the material.  If you would like to do a complete rewrite to bring within the guidelines, that would be acceptable.  But as it was, it was a violation of [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines#Copying_from_other_sources CP Commandment #1]. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:40, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Sorry, you are wrong and I'll fight to change it back.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:19, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You are claiming you wrote the entire section you added [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_McCain&amp;amp;diff=472712&amp;amp;oldid=472465 here] on your own? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:23, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You can't take from the article the sentences with umbiguous meaning and claim copy. e.g. 'McCain cast 11 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues'. Do I have to change to 'McCain voted 11 times on abortion and other child-in-womb measures'. ? No Way. Next you'll be claiming I have turn 11 into eleven because of plagarism.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:50, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues&amp;quot; this is a common democrat strategy to link Bush and McCain. I had changed it to John McCain and the Republican party... Reverted back to original. --[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:32, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Actually, the citation showed that the change I made was properly referenced.  And speaking of common strategies---it's Democratic, not democrat, when using as an adjective. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Proof a democrat has edited this section to show the connection between Bush and McCain. When in fact, McCain has had more than two decades of relationship with Republicans in congress and only 7.5 years with Bush. Change required without warring please.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Happy to have both statements in there.  You provide your citation about the voting relationship of McCain and his party, (and of course, remove any &amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; references, if there are any), and I'll provide my citation about the Bush relationship---which is important information since he is the incumbent president. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:54, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well John McCain has voted alongside George W. Bush 90% of the time. That's pretty close. That's not a liberal bias, that's just how it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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This paragraph is complete liberal bias and should be removed--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:55, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I'm not sure we should create a new category; the article extols his honors&amp;quot; I didn't. The category was already there. That's also not the purpose of categories. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 18:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only other person in the category was a Russian astronaut who never fought in a war.  If it was in wide use, I would understand.  It's not meant to say anything negative about your choice to put it in, only that it doesn't seem appropriate in the wider picture. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jareddr seems to think Huffington post citations are exceptable for CP. We don't simply repeat self-serving liberal claims here and I am not talking Minute-men. Find another citation or I delete again.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Re-read the section.  I've added AP report, USA Today, and ABC News.  They all repeated the same remarks by the woman in question.  I'm going to be adding further remarks the she made in an interview with ABC News. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:15, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conflicting Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
Which of the following is true? John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues -or- After George W. Bush was elected President in 2000, McCain began to disagree with the President on many issues. Both of these on the same page are conflicting. Anyone beside jareddr want to comment?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoa. He was married to his first wife at the same time that he recieved a marriage certificate? Does this mean that, legally speaking, he was married to two people at the same time? Or, at the very least, does it mean he was in(volved with) Cindy before he had divorced his wife? I'm not trying to stir up controversy here, I swear on that, but I was just curious because if so, I think it speaks a lot about his commitment to her and creates a better picture of his character. Thanks. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 20:30, 11 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The technical term is bigamy, since he was only married to two women at the same time.  And yes, he was married to both of them at the same time. [[User:Knullmaskin|Knullmaskin]] 12:36, 12 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those statements are all lies. McCain came back from Vietnam a changed man. He was eager to rebuild his life and wanted to begin a strong, bold career change. Politics came as second nature to him, and as some have stated,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. ''John McCain: Man of the People'' 2003. pg. 93&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain was resolute on having more children and on improving his condition. His wife, who was struggling with the effects of a life-changing car accident, was unable to meet many of the stressful challenges that faced McCain after the war, and their marriage was said to have fell apart mutually.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''When questioned during the 2000 presidential campaign about his experience in captivity, he replied, &amp;quot;I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.&amp;quot; Later, when asked about whether he meant an ethnic slur, he replied, &amp;quot;I was referring to my prison guards, and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed this quote from the 2000 election section. It is unimportant trivia, and in many ways, it only represents a journalist's spin on an ambiguous statement. More importantly, it reveals little to nothing about the political issues or beliefs that McCain had at the time. Nonetheless, I am sure there are those who will disagree and who want this quote re-instated, so post feedback below:&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems a pretty unambiguous statement.  Where's the ambiguity and how exactly would you spin it?  I think anyone who uses such racial slurs reveals something about themselves.  What section of his entry would you like to put this in instead? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:06, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The statement was spun against him by Bush and many liberal pundits then and now. What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate; you are suggesting that what he said was a slur directed at race, while he explicitly stated that it was not. Also, it is put forward without context or resolution, especially because he apologized and it is written in a PR format. Rather, it may help to identify the basis that it holds in the context of the 2000 election, ex: California was considered a swing state in the primaries, for instance.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 22:27, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think the use of a slur, however you want to deem it was directed, is important, and I attempted to put it within the time line you insist upon.  As far as my views on those who use slurs, how do you feel about them?  Do you condone the use of a slur word, even when the user has to go on to spin/explain that it wasn't directed at a race?  He even acknowledges that it's offensive, &amp;quot;in language that may offend some people.&amp;quot;  If he's not afraid to use the term, then I think people should be aware of that fact.  Perhaps our ideas of what a dictionary is are different.  I believe it should be a fact-filled resource, and you'd prefer to put those aside and use laudatory statements instead.  Maybe we can compromise and just find a good section for the remarks, perhaps a Quotes section? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First and foremost, this is not a personal matter between us. We are working together on an encyclopedia, and your attempts to call me racist or culturally insensitive are unwarranted, uncivil, and downright disgusting. Slandering others is not and should not be your reason for being here. That being said, I would like to remind you that McCain was a longstanding supporter of Vietnam-American relations, and cultivated a very favorable opinion among Vietnamese Americans. The statement in question was not a matter or racism, but rather, or political correctness. Apparently, you haven't made the distinction, as you said &amp;quot;If he's not afraid to use the term, I think that's a problem&amp;quot; whereas the more factual approach would be &amp;quot;he still has hatred towards his prison guards, and expresses it in ways that are reckless&amp;quot;. Furthermore, given the coverage of the 2000 election, I would find it hard to justify placing the quote inside that section; there simply isn't any context explaining the significance or historical background. Perhaps if the campaign was explained in better terms, and I mean far more extensively, this statement could be put in the section within appropriate context.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 09:31, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You were actually the one who first made this a personal matter when you stated, &amp;quot;What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate;&amp;quot;  I wasn't even making a judgment about the quote in the entry.  I was including the information so that other people could come to their own conclusions.  If you don't want it in the 2000 election section, perhaps we should put it amongst his Vietnam service section.  I think immediately concluding his POW section would be a good spot, as it directly relates to his captivity and prison guards.  Would you like to place it there or shall I?  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:40, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Oh, and can you please point to the spot where I called you a racist or culturally insensitive?  I don't recall using either of those words, so I'd be interested in you locating that quote.  If, on the other hand, you can't find the spot where I called you either of those, then I do expect an apology, as it was an unwarranted, uncivil, and completely false accusation on your part. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:42, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I reverted the edits, I tend to agree with them as the sections he removed are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia.  Certainly they would be appropriate in a very lengthy essay about the presidential compaign but I don't think it's necessary here.  I suggest we try to get a consensus over the next 48 hours and so if no-one objects I'll delete the comments.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 17:45, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Some of them are valid in the context that McCain has been getting more press lately regarding his gaffes, not because they are simple mistakes, but because of concerns about his age and fitness to serve for the next 4-8 years.  The Iran/Al-Qaeda gaffe was noteworthy because Senator Lieberman had to interrupt him and correct him in front of reporters.  In the past week he also talked about tensions on &amp;quot;the Iraq/Afghanistan border&amp;quot;.  McCain has made comments I can research (read them on Huffington) denying his prior positions and quotes, which are either complete reversals of position or lapses in memory.  Are these actual signs of unfitness?  I'm not sure about that, but including them in the McCain article under the heading &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot; would be entirely appropriate since it has been discussed in the press ans Sunday talk shows as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:58, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I disagree that these should be filed under &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot;, because I don't think they're necessarily age-related.  Rather, Shia v. Sunni is particularly important, and for him to make the mistake twice brings questions to his knowledge and criticisms of Obama over foreign policy.  But to put them under &amp;quot;concerns about age&amp;quot; trivializes them and makes it seem petty, IMO.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Re the Obama Criticism.  Remember that that was in the main page, which is basically just a trivia/blog section, whereas this article is part of the encyclopedia proper, and thus must be accurate and trustworthy like all the other pages are.  Therefore I don't think its fair to compare the Obama gaffe with that here.  I suggest that the first should be left in as being relevant to his ability to perform the presidency, but the second and third should be removed as trivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The second example, misstating &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot; was not part of the trivia/blog section, but is in the article.  And it wasn't a misstatement, but he stated it on two consecutive days, so you know his campaign corrected him after the first instance.--[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:29, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While I commend everyone for your work and interest, we should remember this generic article is about John McCain.  Saying who he is, how he got there, and what he believes is fine, but individual elements and speeches during his Presidential run should probably be handled under the Presidential campaign articles.  It could certainly be grouped there in ways that could flow more easily. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure the rejection of a single Op-Ed piece merits a mention in an encyclopedia article on McCain - It's already covered in CP under [[Liberal Bias]] anyway, and seems trivial in this context.  If its inclusion here can be justified, then it should be moved to a different heading like &amp;quot;McCain and the Media&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Iraq&amp;quot;, since the nature of the Op-Ed piece the Times was looking for spanned more than Iraq.  It should also be revised, because in it's current form it's misleading as to why the original piece was rejected. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:42, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, its trivial fluff and it's prejudicial content is greater than its probative value.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 09:49, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have removed the section. The story itself is irrelevant to McCain's political beliefs, and in consideration of the longstanding cooperation that the New York Times has provided to the Senator, I feel that there is no wrongdoing or substantial political swipe connected to this. I appreciate the well-cited, researched information, but placing the day-to-day events of what is included or excluded in a newspaper does not connect well with the article. It would be more appropriate for the Presidential campaign, but even in that context, it is rather weak and inconsequential.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 11:18, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== McCain vs. Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the obvious bias towards McCain shown in the difference between the two articles, why not just SAY that Conservapedia endorses McCain? Both men have flaws; if you lead with the flaws in the Obama article, and suppress McCain's flaws due to bias, how is this an encyclopedia and how is it &amp;quot;trustworthy?&amp;quot; Yes, I am a liberal, but I may vote for McCain based on experience, but until the election, it would be nice to see unbiased versions of the articles. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 10:16, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We are keeping the McCain article as unbiased as possible as a stand-alone piece. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:25, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And the Obama article? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:26, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Should be discussed on the Obama page.  We do the best we can with the John McCain article on this, the John McCain page. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:34, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes, but the original question pertained to both the McCain and Obama article.  You only answered about the McCain article, and quite clearly stated about keeping it as unbiased as possible.  You have the ability to give an answer to me about the Obama article here, but specifically chose not to relate it to the question, but instead said take it elsewhere.  Since the original question pertained to both, I hope that you will answer both---or let me know and I'll post it on the Obama talk page and you can answer it there instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:38, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::This is the McCain article.  I answer questions on John McCain and how to make this article the best it can be.  Feel free to post the question on Obama's talk page since, ostensibly, that is the article where you have the most concerns.  As I no longer frequent that article, you will not receive a reply from me. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:58, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Divorce==&lt;br /&gt;
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My edit to the Personal Life section of the article should not be reverted, as it is a valid contribution to the page.  It is part of his personal life, and it is note-worthy.  In the interest of keeping the article unbiased, both the positive and negative should be included. --[[User:AlrightThen|AlrightThen]] 20:48, 8 August 2008 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm, so men don't cheat on their wives anymore.  They &amp;quot;have difficulties with&amp;quot; them.  Glad you guys are working so hard to defend the institution of marriage.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 19:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Both of the above comments are incomplete, and it's impossible to glean what your points are.  Try to be clearer.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:58, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This issue has come up in the past.  Please see my talk page under McCain Edit and the reasons why your edit is inappropriate.  Then please move on to constructive edits.  Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridget McCain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be conflicting information regarding Bridget McCain's birth year (1991 or 1993).  According to the other reference Jpratt uses, &amp;quot;rightpundits.com&amp;quot;, the site states, &amp;quot;Cindy McCain was touring 3rd world countries with Mother Teresa in 1991 to provide medical attention to needy children. During this tour, Cindy and Mother Teresa toured an orphanage in Bangladesh where Cindy picked up a baby that was only a few months old.&amp;quot;  Also, under the Bio section, &amp;quot;Bridget McCain was born in 1991 in Bangladesh.&amp;quot; [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1636 Bridget McCain is John McCain's Daughter].  Any suggestions for a way to resolve the differing information? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:26, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The India link wasn't enough for ya? Google search 1-70k for 1993, 1-58k for 1991-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:37, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The India link, which was confusing and not very clear, I would match with the rightpundits site I provided.  So two sites with differing information.  And if the Google results were 70k to 12, then I would consider that evidence.  But 70k v. 58k isn't a strong case for one or the other.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:51, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, and if you google &amp;quot;Bridget McCain&amp;quot; 1991, you get 779 results.  Doing the same with 1993 yields 546 results.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:52, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, if your Google search is limited to english only sites, you get 58k Bridget McCain 1991 and you get 71k Bridget McCain 1993-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Suggestion for an administrator==&lt;br /&gt;
This article has become so long, I think it would look nicer if there were more pictures. I was hoping one of you could upload these into the article. http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/rice-mccain-741881.jpg under &amp;quot;foreign policy&amp;quot; and this under &amp;quot;2008 Presidential campaign.&amp;quot; http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg If not that's fine, but I would appreciate it. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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: You need to check out who owns those pictures first and whether it's OK with them for others to copy them.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:31, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got them from a blog while searching Google images. Hard for me to find out who &amp;quot;owns&amp;quot; them. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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O.K., I emailed Top News.com, which is where I got this image, http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg. They said I could use it because it's under &amp;quot;creative commons license.&amp;quot; [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 21 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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== education ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the main page, much was made of Obama's lack of educational achievements. [http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/]  That article mentions that McCain actually graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy.  I think that this information that should go into the McCain article.  --[[User:DrHubertJNugz|DrHubertJNugz]] 15:38, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So yes, ASchlafly is censoring the truth, even though his edit summary claims that Obama didn't release his college performance. ''Magna cum laude'' is a really good performance. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 10:08, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You will have to take it up with Andy.  Based on the idea that Obama has not opened up his college record for review, a decision was made to remove that information on McCain.  It it were permissible, I would want to see the wording, &amp;quot;near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;.  It seems less sensational that way. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:41, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You mean [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3ADesk%2FAbuse&amp;amp;diff=513169&amp;amp;oldid=510916 this Andy]? Yeah, right, the only result I can think of is hitting my head against a brick wall. Since when does Obama's college record have anything to do with disclosing McCain's? Obama says &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot;, it's jumped all over. Obama says &amp;quot;my Muslim faith&amp;quot;, its jumped all over. McCain doesn't remember how many houses he owns, but its vehemently denied into his article. Pretty simple to see what's going on, but I shouldn't be the one (powerless) who stands up to it. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 14:50, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is just b.s. SamuelHTD. Obama need not disclose but since McCains has, it is fair game? This is a site with conservative POV but that doesn't mean liberals have not included 'not-in-the-best-light' statements on McCain's page. Do we need to include every liberal attack against McCain? Hell no. BTW, I am not expecting your return comment since you're gone. ta ta-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'm baaaack, your [[parthian shot]] failed. If you don't include the information because the other candidate didn't disclose yadda yadda, what's with the hubbub over Obama's &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; birth, with birth certificate provided, compared to McCain's ''lack of'' birth certificate, and doesn't even show on the [http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/Americaneocon/PH2008050201443.jpg record of births]? Going by your logic, we should either a) post that McCain can't prove his birth record, or b) remove all the gossip and ideology regarding Obama's birth? [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 10:36, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::For what it's worth, the [[Joe Biden]] article mentions quite a bit about his academic record, including the current cost of the high school he attended over 40 years ago, and the fact that he graduated ''&amp;quot;from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968 near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;''.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 11:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Allard's amendment&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Same-sex marriage section, it includes a quote where McCain refers to &amp;quot;Senator Allard's amendment&amp;quot;, but the section makes no reference before this to what Senator Allard's amendment is. Perhaps the section could be cleaned up a bit, and a short description included. I know many people can derive a general sense of the bill's content through context, but younger readers might find this a bit confusing, and I didn't want to perform major &amp;quot;article surgery&amp;quot; without an idea of what the &amp;quot;operation&amp;quot; should be! [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:22, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Many of those sections near the ends need some work. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:34, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Also, does this need to be written this way &amp;quot;Prisoner-of-War&amp;quot;? I'm not used to seeing it written this way, with hyphens and capitalization. It's fine to keep War capitalized in the title, but it's written as &amp;quot;prisoner of war&amp;quot; in the article too, and it seems to me that it's not a proper noun.  [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prisoner+of+war]] [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:42, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;This article seems to have many unsourced claims and needless speculation.  Statements such as &amp;quot;The Bush administration was rumored to have...&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The media could damage...&amp;quot; are clearly not rooted in provable fact, but merely in likelihoods and possibilities (in the case of the Bush rumor, libelous ones).  I suggest the author(s) provide news reports or other reliable publications to directly support the claims and speculation in the article. --[[User:Daniel B. Douglas|Daniel B. Douglas]] 21:56, 11 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why remove the &amp;quot;this article needs citations&amp;quot; thingy?  This article is *clearly* in need of citations, and, quite frankly, serious editing to remove the gossip.  A &amp;quot;citations needed&amp;quot; flag gives readers an extra &amp;quot;heads up&amp;quot; to be extra-critical in their reading - important if the site is to be used by high school students.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 01:19, 12 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed minor spelling mistakes on the page. I also agree that this page is disgraceful to Conservapedia. It has no references cited. It breaks both commandments #2 and #6 as it currently stands, and quite possibly #1. The authors/contributors to the information in this article need to add their citations and make certain they are also not adding their own opinions. Serious revision must be undertaken quickly. --[[User:Dikaiosune|Dikaiosune]] 00:23, 12 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with all of the above.  The article also participates in speculation (what the media and Democrats will bring up regarding his health) and it is factually inaccurate (Reagan was 70 when he assumed office, not 72, and so most Republicans would not use that as a defense). [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:36, 15 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok... so no one cared enough to remove the uncited opinion from the article so I went ahead and did it.  I left the uncited fact because that is less egregious.  I have no idea how to make references look nice. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 18:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Myk, it's lookin' good to me.  You're building an article of facts with citations, rather than gossip, opinions, and speculation - much improved, IMHO.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What is this page going to be? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschafly, all of the things you just listed under electability may be true and verifiable but are they encyclopedic?  What encyclopedia has items on how electable someone is?  Is this going to be a biography of the man or a list of reasons why not to vote.  &lt;br /&gt;
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His age at primary time is easily discernible by subtracting the year of his birth from the year of his election.  His cancer is something easily added to his personal life section (or create a personal life section as I didn't add one thinking it would be gossipy).  His conduct during the Keating Five incidient could be cited and sourced and put in his political career section.  And, as he is a public figure, the Dobson quote can be placed in a &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; section.  There is a way to make this at least look like an encyclopedia article rather than a &amp;quot;reason why Aschlafly doesn't want him nominated&amp;quot; page. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:06, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Perhaps, Andy, you would entertain the idea of changing the title block from &amp;quot;Electability&amp;quot; to something else?  Or, in fairness, we should add the same, highly subjective information to each of the potential candidates? Personally I think that would be pissing on our own shoes.  If you agree, I can create a &amp;quot;Quick Facts&amp;quot; area for your information, incorporate other pertinent information, and present it as I did in the Margaret Thatcher page.  Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:TK|TK]] 17:53, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We could add Electability as one of the Conservapedia debates, such as &amp;quot;Which of the Republican candidates is most electable?&amp;quot; At the very least, it's something I would be interested in discussing. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 01:27, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, looks as if Geo beat you to it, dude, lol --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:24, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a featured article.  The unsourced comment should either be removed or given a citation.  It is a clear violation of the Second Commandment.  There are only seven commandments, we should follow them.  Especially on featured articles. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 02:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Gee, I wonder who made it the featured article?  If he doesn't care, or doesn't think its that big of deal, and it's his place, why do you? What comment are you talking about? Maybe it was removed before I read this?  --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:23, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Political Record 1-10.  And if he doesn't feel it's a problem, great, but I never want to see any other &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; removed because they didn't have a source.  Conservapedia would lend an awfully bad name for conservatives if the leader of the site could just flaunt the rules like that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, there's no mention that his cancer is in remission, no source for cancer hurting Paul Tsongas, and no where in the article cited  does it mention anything about poor fundraising being a sign of weakness.  That's commentary.[[User:Myk|Myk]] 11:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need for personal/family section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should mention that McCain has seven children, of whom two are today in the U. S. military.  [[Duncan Hunter]] is the only other candidate who can claim even one.  [[User talk:Amyz|Amyz]] 18:17, June 8, 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Article says he is Baptist. Does that mean he is a member of a Baptist church? If so, which one. And which denomination was he a member of before. This is only important if Obama's UCC affilation is deemed important.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not doubting that there are sources for the information in this section, however considering much of it is in opposition to what his election platform is, I think it might be a good idea to show sources.  In fact, it would lend a lot of credibility to this site, and raise usefulness.  Any intelligent person would have to realize that McCain's position is inconsistent with his track-record.  This is what killed Kerry for a lot of people, including me.  Who knows what he's going to do when gets to be president, nothing is truthful.  At the very least his platform could be considered deceitful being that it would be in conflict with his actual behavior.  I would say, it would be out right lying! --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 18:37, 3 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Fundraising&amp;quot; section is really irrelevant at this point.  Delete it? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 12:34, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|McCain is a living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces, and has the greatest claim of any of the candidates to be Commander-in-Chief.}}&lt;br /&gt;
This... doesn't look encyclopedic, I'm sorry. Why don't we say &amp;quot;He is the second-greatest American who ever lived (just after Ronald Reagan)&amp;quot; while we're at it?&lt;br /&gt;
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I normally would have reworded it (or tried to find a source so we can say &amp;quot;X said that he can be considered...&amp;quot;), but I see that some other bloke just got a 1-week block for edit warring in this sentence, and I don't really want to join him. So I'll just file my protest here and hope that somebody will pick it up. --[[User:DHayes|DHayes]] 18:07, 12 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not that it's a big deal, but I was wondering if a Sysop can add one or two small images for McCain. Like McCain with Reagan, or McCain campaigning for President.[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree, Chip...I will find some, and ask someone to upload them, unless you have something in mind. --&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1E90FF&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Comic Sans MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TK|₮K]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;DC143C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 8 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hate speech laws==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports hate speech laws. Is this really the guy today's conservatives want? [[User:CaptainRoemer|CaptainRoemer]] 11:00, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a related note, is the vocal opposition to McCain by some conservative political commentators significant enough to merit mention in the article?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 19:43, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Don't know if any are criticizing him now.  We keep current here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:52, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ann Coulter's still pretty critical of him.  Her most recent column, after mentioning that it's the end of the road for Hillary, follows with &amp;quot;Now we just have to get rid of the other two&amp;quot; and describes the remaining choice as being between &amp;quot;a young liberal who is friendly with terrorists or an old liberal who is friendly with Teddy Kennedy.&amp;quot;  Again, not sure if it's significant enough to merit inclusion, but she's a fairly influential media personality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, but Ann Coulter is a joke of a media personality. Every time she opens her mouth people wince. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 11:49, 28 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This is not the Ann Coulter article. And whatever he supports he's what we have so we gotta stick by him.&lt;br /&gt;
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He hasn't clinched.  Regardless of the difference in numbers, as you said yourself ASchlafly---the media can't appoint the nominee.  He isn't the nominee until the convention or until he has no further opponents. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He is technically the 'presumptive nominee', the same status as Obama. Can we change the wording so that it is accurate? I would do it myself, but I've seen too many people get banned for changing articles like this. '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 18:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is not flattering, maybe the reality of his position. However, I just read the article on Life News that is credible. As it currently stands, no reference points are made and a different subject, embryonic stem cell is inserted. Please advise for I am to completely change this section unless told not to.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 09:53, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because it's not flattering, but true, you want to remove it?  Keep the quote, and I'll find a reference for it now. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:58, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jareddr, you still need a reference &amp;quot;McCain is also against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;quot; This section does not reflect his true record on abortion. I will add to but will not replace current article. I can clearly tell you have nothing but discontent for McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:48, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::About the same as your discontent with Barack Obama. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:51, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: touché--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:54, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Jared from Subway, like the changes?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Actually, since they were complete copy and pastes and none of it was your own original work, no, I don't like the changes.  First clue that it was a copy and paste---your first edit after pasting it was going through and changing all the &amp;quot;anti-choice&amp;quot; phrases to &amp;quot;anti-abortion&amp;quot;.  Why, I asked myself, would you write an entire section using one phrase and then change it?  Quick google search took me to the NARAL source of the material.  If you would like to do a complete rewrite to bring within the guidelines, that would be acceptable.  But as it was, it was a violation of [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines#Copying_from_other_sources CP Commandment #1]. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:40, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Sorry, you are wrong and I'll fight to change it back.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:19, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You are claiming you wrote the entire section you added [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_McCain&amp;amp;diff=472712&amp;amp;oldid=472465 here] on your own? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:23, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues&amp;quot; this is a common democrat strategy to link Bush and McCain. I had changed it to John McCain and the Republican party... Reverted back to original. --[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:32, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Actually, the citation showed that the change I made was properly referenced.  And speaking of common strategies---it's Democratic, not democrat, when using as an adjective. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Proof a democrat has edited this section to show the connection between Bush and McCain. When in fact, McCain has had more than two decades of relationship with Republicans in congress and only 7.5 years with Bush. Change required without warring please.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Happy to have both statements in there.  You provide your citation about the voting relationship of McCain and his party, (and of course, remove any &amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; references, if there are any), and I'll provide my citation about the Bush relationship---which is important information since he is the incumbent president. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:54, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This paragraph is complete liberal bias and should be removed--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:55, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I'm not sure we should create a new category; the article extols his honors&amp;quot; I didn't. The category was already there. That's also not the purpose of categories. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 18:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only other person in the category was a Russian astronaut who never fought in a war.  If it was in wide use, I would understand.  It's not meant to say anything negative about your choice to put it in, only that it doesn't seem appropriate in the wider picture. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jareddr seems to think Huffington post citations are exceptable for CP. We don't simply repeat self-serving liberal claims here and I am not talking Minute-men. Find another citation or I delete again.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Re-read the section.  I've added AP report, USA Today, and ABC News.  They all repeated the same remarks by the woman in question.  I'm going to be adding further remarks the she made in an interview with ABC News. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:15, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Which of the following is true? John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues -or- After George W. Bush was elected President in 2000, McCain began to disagree with the President on many issues. Both of these on the same page are conflicting. Anyone beside jareddr want to comment?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The technical term is bigamy, since he was only married to two women at the same time.  And yes, he was married to both of them at the same time. [[User:Knullmaskin|Knullmaskin]] 12:36, 12 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article seems to have borrowed some lines from the Bush smear campaign. John McCain divorced his first wife Carol (April 2, 1980) and married Cindy (May 17, 1980) about six weeks apart. There is, and never has been, any controversy about his marriage except for those who say that he did not work hard to resolve issues with his first wife, and that he had little care for her.&lt;br /&gt;
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Those statements are all lies. McCain came back from Vietnam a changed man. He was eager to rebuild his life and wanted to begin a strong, bold career change. Politics came as second nature to him, and as some have stated,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. ''John McCain: Man of the People'' 2003. pg. 93&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain was resolute on having more children and on improving his condition. His wife, who was struggling with the effects of a life-changing car accident, was unable to meet many of the stressful challenges that faced McCain after the war, and their marriage was said to have fell apart mutually.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''When questioned during the 2000 presidential campaign about his experience in captivity, he replied, &amp;quot;I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.&amp;quot; Later, when asked about whether he meant an ethnic slur, he replied, &amp;quot;I was referring to my prison guards, and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed this quote from the 2000 election section. It is unimportant trivia, and in many ways, it only represents a journalist's spin on an ambiguous statement. More importantly, it reveals little to nothing about the political issues or beliefs that McCain had at the time. Nonetheless, I am sure there are those who will disagree and who want this quote re-instated, so post feedback below:&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems a pretty unambiguous statement.  Where's the ambiguity and how exactly would you spin it?  I think anyone who uses such racial slurs reveals something about themselves.  What section of his entry would you like to put this in instead? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:06, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The statement was spun against him by Bush and many liberal pundits then and now. What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate; you are suggesting that what he said was a slur directed at race, while he explicitly stated that it was not. Also, it is put forward without context or resolution, especially because he apologized and it is written in a PR format. Rather, it may help to identify the basis that it holds in the context of the 2000 election, ex: California was considered a swing state in the primaries, for instance.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 22:27, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think the use of a slur, however you want to deem it was directed, is important, and I attempted to put it within the time line you insist upon.  As far as my views on those who use slurs, how do you feel about them?  Do you condone the use of a slur word, even when the user has to go on to spin/explain that it wasn't directed at a race?  He even acknowledges that it's offensive, &amp;quot;in language that may offend some people.&amp;quot;  If he's not afraid to use the term, then I think people should be aware of that fact.  Perhaps our ideas of what a dictionary is are different.  I believe it should be a fact-filled resource, and you'd prefer to put those aside and use laudatory statements instead.  Maybe we can compromise and just find a good section for the remarks, perhaps a Quotes section? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First and foremost, this is not a personal matter between us. We are working together on an encyclopedia, and your attempts to call me racist or culturally insensitive are unwarranted, uncivil, and downright disgusting. Slandering others is not and should not be your reason for being here. That being said, I would like to remind you that McCain was a longstanding supporter of Vietnam-American relations, and cultivated a very favorable opinion among Vietnamese Americans. The statement in question was not a matter or racism, but rather, or political correctness. Apparently, you haven't made the distinction, as you said &amp;quot;If he's not afraid to use the term, I think that's a problem&amp;quot; whereas the more factual approach would be &amp;quot;he still has hatred towards his prison guards, and expresses it in ways that are reckless&amp;quot;. Furthermore, given the coverage of the 2000 election, I would find it hard to justify placing the quote inside that section; there simply isn't any context explaining the significance or historical background. Perhaps if the campaign was explained in better terms, and I mean far more extensively, this statement could be put in the section within appropriate context.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 09:31, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You were actually the one who first made this a personal matter when you stated, &amp;quot;What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate;&amp;quot;  I wasn't even making a judgment about the quote in the entry.  I was including the information so that other people could come to their own conclusions.  If you don't want it in the 2000 election section, perhaps we should put it amongst his Vietnam service section.  I think immediately concluding his POW section would be a good spot, as it directly relates to his captivity and prison guards.  Would you like to place it there or shall I?  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:40, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Oh, and can you please point to the spot where I called you a racist or culturally insensitive?  I don't recall using either of those words, so I'd be interested in you locating that quote.  If, on the other hand, you can't find the spot where I called you either of those, then I do expect an apology, as it was an unwarranted, uncivil, and completely false accusation on your part. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:42, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the article mentions McCain's positions on Iraq and Iran, how about mentioning his views on [[Czechoslovakia]]? He's mentioned twice in speeches in the last week concerns about events going on right now in Czechoslovakia.... (Czechoslovakia has not existed at all since 1993).&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I reverted the edits, I tend to agree with them as the sections he removed are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia.  Certainly they would be appropriate in a very lengthy essay about the presidential compaign but I don't think it's necessary here.  I suggest we try to get a consensus over the next 48 hours and so if no-one objects I'll delete the comments.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 17:45, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Some of them are valid in the context that McCain has been getting more press lately regarding his gaffes, not because they are simple mistakes, but because of concerns about his age and fitness to serve for the next 4-8 years.  The Iran/Al-Qaeda gaffe was noteworthy because Senator Lieberman had to interrupt him and correct him in front of reporters.  In the past week he also talked about tensions on &amp;quot;the Iraq/Afghanistan border&amp;quot;.  McCain has made comments I can research (read them on Huffington) denying his prior positions and quotes, which are either complete reversals of position or lapses in memory.  Are these actual signs of unfitness?  I'm not sure about that, but including them in the McCain article under the heading &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot; would be entirely appropriate since it has been discussed in the press ans Sunday talk shows as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:58, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I disagree that these should be filed under &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot;, because I don't think they're necessarily age-related.  Rather, Shia v. Sunni is particularly important, and for him to make the mistake twice brings questions to his knowledge and criticisms of Obama over foreign policy.  But to put them under &amp;quot;concerns about age&amp;quot; trivializes them and makes it seem petty, IMO.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Re the Obama Criticism.  Remember that that was in the main page, which is basically just a trivia/blog section, whereas this article is part of the encyclopedia proper, and thus must be accurate and trustworthy like all the other pages are.  Therefore I don't think its fair to compare the Obama gaffe with that here.  I suggest that the first should be left in as being relevant to his ability to perform the presidency, but the second and third should be removed as trivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The second example, misstating &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot; was not part of the trivia/blog section, but is in the article.  And it wasn't a misstatement, but he stated it on two consecutive days, so you know his campaign corrected him after the first instance.--[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:29, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While I commend everyone for your work and interest, we should remember this generic article is about John McCain.  Saying who he is, how he got there, and what he believes is fine, but individual elements and speeches during his Presidential run should probably be handled under the Presidential campaign articles.  It could certainly be grouped there in ways that could flow more easily. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure the rejection of a single Op-Ed piece merits a mention in an encyclopedia article on McCain - It's already covered in CP under [[Liberal Bias]] anyway, and seems trivial in this context.  If its inclusion here can be justified, then it should be moved to a different heading like &amp;quot;McCain and the Media&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Iraq&amp;quot;, since the nature of the Op-Ed piece the Times was looking for spanned more than Iraq.  It should also be revised, because in it's current form it's misleading as to why the original piece was rejected. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:42, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have removed the section. The story itself is irrelevant to McCain's political beliefs, and in consideration of the longstanding cooperation that the New York Times has provided to the Senator, I feel that there is no wrongdoing or substantial political swipe connected to this. I appreciate the well-cited, researched information, but placing the day-to-day events of what is included or excluded in a newspaper does not connect well with the article. It would be more appropriate for the Presidential campaign, but even in that context, it is rather weak and inconsequential.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 11:18, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the obvious bias towards McCain shown in the difference between the two articles, why not just SAY that Conservapedia endorses McCain? Both men have flaws; if you lead with the flaws in the Obama article, and suppress McCain's flaws due to bias, how is this an encyclopedia and how is it &amp;quot;trustworthy?&amp;quot; Yes, I am a liberal, but I may vote for McCain based on experience, but until the election, it would be nice to see unbiased versions of the articles. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 10:16, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We are keeping the McCain article as unbiased as possible as a stand-alone piece. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:25, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Should be discussed on the Obama page.  We do the best we can with the John McCain article on this, the John McCain page. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:34, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes, but the original question pertained to both the McCain and Obama article.  You only answered about the McCain article, and quite clearly stated about keeping it as unbiased as possible.  You have the ability to give an answer to me about the Obama article here, but specifically chose not to relate it to the question, but instead said take it elsewhere.  Since the original question pertained to both, I hope that you will answer both---or let me know and I'll post it on the Obama talk page and you can answer it there instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:38, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::This is the McCain article.  I answer questions on John McCain and how to make this article the best it can be.  Feel free to post the question on Obama's talk page since, ostensibly, that is the article where you have the most concerns.  As I no longer frequent that article, you will not receive a reply from me. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:58, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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My edit to the Personal Life section of the article should not be reverted, as it is a valid contribution to the page.  It is part of his personal life, and it is note-worthy.  In the interest of keeping the article unbiased, both the positive and negative should be included. --[[User:AlrightThen|AlrightThen]] 20:48, 8 August 2008 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm, so men don't cheat on their wives anymore.  They &amp;quot;have difficulties with&amp;quot; them.  Glad you guys are working so hard to defend the institution of marriage.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 19:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Both of the above comments are incomplete, and it's impossible to glean what your points are.  Try to be clearer.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:58, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This issue has come up in the past.  Please see my talk page under McCain Edit and the reasons why your edit is inappropriate.  Then please move on to constructive edits.  Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be conflicting information regarding Bridget McCain's birth year (1991 or 1993).  According to the other reference Jpratt uses, &amp;quot;rightpundits.com&amp;quot;, the site states, &amp;quot;Cindy McCain was touring 3rd world countries with Mother Teresa in 1991 to provide medical attention to needy children. During this tour, Cindy and Mother Teresa toured an orphanage in Bangladesh where Cindy picked up a baby that was only a few months old.&amp;quot;  Also, under the Bio section, &amp;quot;Bridget McCain was born in 1991 in Bangladesh.&amp;quot; [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1636 Bridget McCain is John McCain's Daughter].  Any suggestions for a way to resolve the differing information? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:26, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The India link wasn't enough for ya? Google search 1-70k for 1993, 1-58k for 1991-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:37, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The India link, which was confusing and not very clear, I would match with the rightpundits site I provided.  So two sites with differing information.  And if the Google results were 70k to 12, then I would consider that evidence.  But 70k v. 58k isn't a strong case for one or the other.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:51, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, and if you google &amp;quot;Bridget McCain&amp;quot; 1991, you get 779 results.  Doing the same with 1993 yields 546 results.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:52, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, if your Google search is limited to english only sites, you get 58k Bridget McCain 1991 and you get 71k Bridget McCain 1993-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article has become so long, I think it would look nicer if there were more pictures. I was hoping one of you could upload these into the article. http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/rice-mccain-741881.jpg under &amp;quot;foreign policy&amp;quot; and this under &amp;quot;2008 Presidential campaign.&amp;quot; http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg If not that's fine, but I would appreciate it. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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: You need to check out who owns those pictures first and whether it's OK with them for others to copy them.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:31, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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O.K., I emailed Top News.com, which is where I got this image, http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg. They said I could use it because it's under &amp;quot;creative commons license.&amp;quot; [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 21 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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On the main page, much was made of Obama's lack of educational achievements. [http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/]  That article mentions that McCain actually graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy.  I think that this information that should go into the McCain article.  --[[User:DrHubertJNugz|DrHubertJNugz]] 15:38, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So yes, ASchlafly is censoring the truth, even though his edit summary claims that Obama didn't release his college performance. ''Magna cum laude'' is a really good performance. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 10:08, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You will have to take it up with Andy.  Based on the idea that Obama has not opened up his college record for review, a decision was made to remove that information on McCain.  It it were permissible, I would want to see the wording, &amp;quot;near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;.  It seems less sensational that way. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:41, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You mean [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3ADesk%2FAbuse&amp;amp;diff=513169&amp;amp;oldid=510916 this Andy]? Yeah, right, the only result I can think of is hitting my head against a brick wall. Since when does Obama's college record have anything to do with disclosing McCain's? Obama says &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot;, it's jumped all over. Obama says &amp;quot;my Muslim faith&amp;quot;, its jumped all over. McCain doesn't remember how many houses he owns, but its vehemently denied into his article. Pretty simple to see what's going on, but I shouldn't be the one (powerless) who stands up to it. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 14:50, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is just b.s. SamuelHTD. Obama need not disclose but since McCains has, it is fair game? This is a site with conservative POV but that doesn't mean liberals have not included 'not-in-the-best-light' statements on McCain's page. Do we need to include every liberal attack against McCain? Hell no. BTW, I am not expecting your return comment since you're gone. ta ta-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'm baaaack, your [[parthian shot]] failed. If you don't include the information because the other candidate didn't disclose yadda yadda, what's with the hubbub over Obama's &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; birth, with birth certificate provided, compared to McCain's ''lack of'' birth certificate, and doesn't even show on the [http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/Americaneocon/PH2008050201443.jpg record of births]? Going by your logic, we should either a) post that McCain can't prove his birth record, or b) remove all the gossip and ideology regarding Obama's birth? [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 10:36, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::For what it's worth, the [[Joe Biden]] article mentions quite a bit about his academic record, including the current cost of the high school he attended over 40 years ago, and the fact that he graduated ''&amp;quot;from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968 near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;''.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 11:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Allard's amendment&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Same-sex marriage section, it includes a quote where McCain refers to &amp;quot;Senator Allard's amendment&amp;quot;, but the section makes no reference before this to what Senator Allard's amendment is. Perhaps the section could be cleaned up a bit, and a short description included. I know many people can derive a general sense of the bill's content through context, but younger readers might find this a bit confusing, and I didn't want to perform major &amp;quot;article surgery&amp;quot; without an idea of what the &amp;quot;operation&amp;quot; should be! [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:22, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Many of those sections near the ends need some work. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:34, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-of-War==&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Also, does this need to be written this way &amp;quot;Prisoner-of-War&amp;quot;? I'm not used to seeing it written this way, with hyphens and capitalization. It's fine to keep War capitalized in the title, but it's written as &amp;quot;prisoner of war&amp;quot; in the article too, and it seems to me that it's not a proper noun.  [[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prisoner+of+war]] [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:42, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;A '''lie''' is the deliberate fabrication or misrepresentation of the truth. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Lying in Religion==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This article seems to have many unsourced claims and needless speculation.  Statements such as &amp;quot;The Bush administration was rumored to have...&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The media could damage...&amp;quot; are clearly not rooted in provable fact, but merely in likelihoods and possibilities (in the case of the Bush rumor, libelous ones).  I suggest the author(s) provide news reports or other reliable publications to directly support the claims and speculation in the article. --[[User:Daniel B. Douglas|Daniel B. Douglas]] 21:56, 11 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why remove the &amp;quot;this article needs citations&amp;quot; thingy?  This article is *clearly* in need of citations, and, quite frankly, serious editing to remove the gossip.  A &amp;quot;citations needed&amp;quot; flag gives readers an extra &amp;quot;heads up&amp;quot; to be extra-critical in their reading - important if the site is to be used by high school students.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 01:19, 12 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed minor spelling mistakes on the page. I also agree that this page is disgraceful to Conservapedia. It has no references cited. It breaks both commandments #2 and #6 as it currently stands, and quite possibly #1. The authors/contributors to the information in this article need to add their citations and make certain they are also not adding their own opinions. Serious revision must be undertaken quickly. --[[User:Dikaiosune|Dikaiosune]] 00:23, 12 March 2007 (CST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with all of the above.  The article also participates in speculation (what the media and Democrats will bring up regarding his health) and it is factually inaccurate (Reagan was 70 when he assumed office, not 72, and so most Republicans would not use that as a defense). [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:36, 15 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok... so no one cared enough to remove the uncited opinion from the article so I went ahead and did it.  I left the uncited fact because that is less egregious.  I have no idea how to make references look nice. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 18:17, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Myk, it's lookin' good to me.  You're building an article of facts with citations, rather than gossip, opinions, and speculation - much improved, IMHO.  --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:25, 16 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What is this page going to be? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschafly, all of the things you just listed under electability may be true and verifiable but are they encyclopedic?  What encyclopedia has items on how electable someone is?  Is this going to be a biography of the man or a list of reasons why not to vote.  &lt;br /&gt;
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His age at primary time is easily discernible by subtracting the year of his birth from the year of his election.  His cancer is something easily added to his personal life section (or create a personal life section as I didn't add one thinking it would be gossipy).  His conduct during the Keating Five incidient could be cited and sourced and put in his political career section.  And, as he is a public figure, the Dobson quote can be placed in a &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; section.  There is a way to make this at least look like an encyclopedia article rather than a &amp;quot;reason why Aschlafly doesn't want him nominated&amp;quot; page. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:06, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Perhaps, Andy, you would entertain the idea of changing the title block from &amp;quot;Electability&amp;quot; to something else?  Or, in fairness, we should add the same, highly subjective information to each of the potential candidates? Personally I think that would be pissing on our own shoes.  If you agree, I can create a &amp;quot;Quick Facts&amp;quot; area for your information, incorporate other pertinent information, and present it as I did in the Margaret Thatcher page.  Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:TK|TK]] 17:53, 17 March 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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We could add Electability as one of the Conservapedia debates, such as &amp;quot;Which of the Republican candidates is most electable?&amp;quot; At the very least, it's something I would be interested in discussing. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 01:27, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, looks as if Geo beat you to it, dude, lol --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:24, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a featured article.  The unsourced comment should either be removed or given a citation.  It is a clear violation of the Second Commandment.  There are only seven commandments, we should follow them.  Especially on featured articles. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 02:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Gee, I wonder who made it the featured article?  If he doesn't care, or doesn't think its that big of deal, and it's his place, why do you? What comment are you talking about? Maybe it was removed before I read this?  --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:23, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Political Record 1-10.  And if he doesn't feel it's a problem, great, but I never want to see any other &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; removed because they didn't have a source.  Conservapedia would lend an awfully bad name for conservatives if the leader of the site could just flaunt the rules like that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, there's no mention that his cancer is in remission, no source for cancer hurting Paul Tsongas, and no where in the article cited  does it mention anything about poor fundraising being a sign of weakness.  That's commentary.[[User:Myk|Myk]] 11:30, 3 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Need for personal/family section ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should mention that McCain has seven children, of whom two are today in the U. S. military.  [[Duncan Hunter]] is the only other candidate who can claim even one.  [[User talk:Amyz|Amyz]] 18:17, June 8, 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Article says he is Baptist. Does that mean he is a member of a Baptist church? If so, which one. And which denomination was he a member of before. This is only important if Obama's UCC affilation is deemed important.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not doubting that there are sources for the information in this section, however considering much of it is in opposition to what his election platform is, I think it might be a good idea to show sources.  In fact, it would lend a lot of credibility to this site, and raise usefulness.  Any intelligent person would have to realize that McCain's position is inconsistent with his track-record.  This is what killed Kerry for a lot of people, including me.  Who knows what he's going to do when gets to be president, nothing is truthful.  At the very least his platform could be considered deceitful being that it would be in conflict with his actual behavior.  I would say, it would be out right lying! --[[User:Puellanivis|Puellanivis]] 18:37, 3 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fundraising ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Fundraising&amp;quot; section is really irrelevant at this point.  Delete it? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 12:34, 5 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|McCain is a living symbol of the honor and sacrifice of America's armed forces, and has the greatest claim of any of the candidates to be Commander-in-Chief.}}&lt;br /&gt;
This... doesn't look encyclopedic, I'm sorry. Why don't we say &amp;quot;He is the second-greatest American who ever lived (just after Ronald Reagan)&amp;quot; while we're at it?&lt;br /&gt;
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I normally would have reworded it (or tried to find a source so we can say &amp;quot;X said that he can be considered...&amp;quot;), but I see that some other bloke just got a 1-week block for edit warring in this sentence, and I don't really want to join him. So I'll just file my protest here and hope that somebody will pick it up. --[[User:DHayes|DHayes]] 18:07, 12 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Another Image==&lt;br /&gt;
Not that it's a big deal, but I was wondering if a Sysop can add one or two small images for McCain. Like McCain with Reagan, or McCain campaigning for President.[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree, Chip...I will find some, and ask someone to upload them, unless you have something in mind. --&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#1E90FF&amp;quot; face=&amp;quot;Comic Sans MS&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:TK|₮K]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;DC143C&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 8 April 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hate speech laws==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports hate speech laws. Is this really the guy today's conservatives want? [[User:CaptainRoemer|CaptainRoemer]] 11:00, 3 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a related note, is the vocal opposition to McCain by some conservative political commentators significant enough to merit mention in the article?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 19:43, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Don't know if any are criticizing him now.  We keep current here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:52, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ann Coulter's still pretty critical of him.  Her most recent column, after mentioning that it's the end of the road for Hillary, follows with &amp;quot;Now we just have to get rid of the other two&amp;quot; and describes the remaining choice as being between &amp;quot;a young liberal who is friendly with terrorists or an old liberal who is friendly with Teddy Kennedy.&amp;quot;  Again, not sure if it's significant enough to merit inclusion, but she's a fairly influential media personality.&lt;br /&gt;
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::--[[User:Benp|Benp]] 19:58, 12 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, but Ann Coulter is a joke of a media personality. Every time she opens her mouth people wince. [[User:Darkmind1970|Darkmind1970]] 11:49, 28 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This is not the Ann Coulter article. And whatever he supports he's what we have so we gotta stick by him.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technically ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He hasn't clinched.  Regardless of the difference in numbers, as you said yourself ASchlafly---the media can't appoint the nominee.  He isn't the nominee until the convention or until he has no further opponents. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He is technically the 'presumptive nominee', the same status as Obama. Can we change the wording so that it is accurate? I would do it myself, but I've seen too many people get banned for changing articles like this. '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]''' 18:40, 9 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Abortion==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is not flattering, maybe the reality of his position. However, I just read the article on Life News that is credible. As it currently stands, no reference points are made and a different subject, embryonic stem cell is inserted. Please advise for I am to completely change this section unless told not to.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 09:53, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Because it's not flattering, but true, you want to remove it?  Keep the quote, and I'll find a reference for it now. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:58, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jareddr, you still need a reference &amp;quot;McCain is also against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;quot; This section does not reflect his true record on abortion. I will add to but will not replace current article. I can clearly tell you have nothing but discontent for McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:48, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::About the same as your discontent with Barack Obama. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:51, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: touché--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:54, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Jared from Subway, like the changes?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:46, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Actually, since they were complete copy and pastes and none of it was your own original work, no, I don't like the changes.  First clue that it was a copy and paste---your first edit after pasting it was going through and changing all the &amp;quot;anti-choice&amp;quot; phrases to &amp;quot;anti-abortion&amp;quot;.  Why, I asked myself, would you write an entire section using one phrase and then change it?  Quick google search took me to the NARAL source of the material.  If you would like to do a complete rewrite to bring within the guidelines, that would be acceptable.  But as it was, it was a violation of [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines#Copying_from_other_sources CP Commandment #1]. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:40, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Sorry, you are wrong and I'll fight to change it back.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:19, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You are claiming you wrote the entire section you added [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=John_McCain&amp;amp;diff=472712&amp;amp;oldid=472465 here] on your own? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:23, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: You can't take from the article the sentences with umbiguous meaning and claim copy. e.g. 'McCain cast 11 votes on abortion and other reproductive-rights issues'. Do I have to change to 'McCain voted 11 times on abortion and other child-in-womb measures'. ? No Way. Next you'll be claiming I have turn 11 into eleven because of plagarism.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:50, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::: You seem to be backing up to a position of unambiguous statements.  Are you admitting the greater point that the passage was taken whole from another publication in violation of CP Commandment #1? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:53, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: Sorry, it is a cite reference needed issue and not a delete.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 00:00, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2nd paragraph, first sentence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues&amp;quot; this is a common democrat strategy to link Bush and McCain. I had changed it to John McCain and the Republican party... Reverted back to original. --[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:32, 12 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Actually, the citation showed that the change I made was properly referenced.  And speaking of common strategies---it's Democratic, not democrat, when using as an adjective. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 23:41, 13 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Proof a democrat has edited this section to show the connection between Bush and McCain. When in fact, McCain has had more than two decades of relationship with Republicans in congress and only 7.5 years with Bush. Change required without warring please.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Happy to have both statements in there.  You provide your citation about the voting relationship of McCain and his party, (and of course, remove any &amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; references, if there are any), and I'll provide my citation about the Bush relationship---which is important information since he is the incumbent president. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:54, 14 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well John McCain has voted alongside George W. Bush 90% of the time. That's pretty close. That's not a liberal bias, that's just how it is.&lt;br /&gt;
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This paragraph is complete liberal bias and should be removed--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:55, 15 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Re: Reversion==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I'm not sure we should create a new category; the article extols his honors&amp;quot; I didn't. The category was already there. That's also not the purpose of categories. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 18:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The only other person in the category was a Russian astronaut who never fought in a war.  If it was in wide use, I would understand.  It's not meant to say anything negative about your choice to put it in, only that it doesn't seem appropriate in the wider picture. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:08, 17 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jareddr seems to think Huffington post citations are exceptable for CP. We don't simply repeat self-serving liberal claims here and I am not talking Minute-men. Find another citation or I delete again.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:13, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Re-read the section.  I've added AP report, USA Today, and ABC News.  They all repeated the same remarks by the woman in question.  I'm going to be adding further remarks the she made in an interview with ABC News. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:15, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Fine with me--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 11:21, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Conflicting Facts==&lt;br /&gt;
Which of the following is true? John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues -or- After George W. Bush was elected President in 2000, McCain began to disagree with the President on many issues. Both of these on the same page are conflicting. Anyone beside jareddr want to comment?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:35, 24 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Whoa. He was married to his first wife at the same time that he recieved a marriage certificate? Does this mean that, legally speaking, he was married to two people at the same time? Or, at the very least, does it mean he was in(volved with) Cindy before he had divorced his wife? I'm not trying to stir up controversy here, I swear on that, but I was just curious because if so, I think it speaks a lot about his commitment to her and creates a better picture of his character. Thanks. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 20:30, 11 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The technical term is bigamy, since he was only married to two women at the same time.  And yes, he was married to both of them at the same time. [[User:Knullmaskin|Knullmaskin]] 12:36, 12 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== NOT A BIGAMIST! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article seems to have borrowed some lines from the Bush smear campaign. John McCain divorced his first wife Carol (April 2, 1980) and married Cindy (May 17, 1980) about six weeks apart. There is, and never has been, any controversy about his marriage except for those who say that he did not work hard to resolve issues with his first wife, and that he had little care for her.&lt;br /&gt;
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Those statements are all lies. McCain came back from Vietnam a changed man. He was eager to rebuild his life and wanted to begin a strong, bold career change. Politics came as second nature to him, and as some have stated,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. ''John McCain: Man of the People'' 2003. pg. 93&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain was resolute on having more children and on improving his condition. His wife, who was struggling with the effects of a life-changing car accident, was unable to meet many of the stressful challenges that faced McCain after the war, and their marriage was said to have fell apart mutually.&lt;br /&gt;
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== McCain quote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''When questioned during the 2000 presidential campaign about his experience in captivity, he replied, &amp;quot;I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.&amp;quot; Later, when asked about whether he meant an ethnic slur, he replied, &amp;quot;I was referring to my prison guards, and I will continue to refer to them in language that might offend some people because of the beating and torture of my friends.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/02/18/MN32194.DTL&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed this quote from the 2000 election section. It is unimportant trivia, and in many ways, it only represents a journalist's spin on an ambiguous statement. More importantly, it reveals little to nothing about the political issues or beliefs that McCain had at the time. Nonetheless, I am sure there are those who will disagree and who want this quote re-instated, so post feedback below:&lt;br /&gt;
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:It seems a pretty unambiguous statement.  Where's the ambiguity and how exactly would you spin it?  I think anyone who uses such racial slurs reveals something about themselves.  What section of his entry would you like to put this in instead? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:06, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The statement was spun against him by Bush and many liberal pundits then and now. What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate; you are suggesting that what he said was a slur directed at race, while he explicitly stated that it was not. Also, it is put forward without context or resolution, especially because he apologized and it is written in a PR format. Rather, it may help to identify the basis that it holds in the context of the 2000 election, ex: California was considered a swing state in the primaries, for instance.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 22:27, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think the use of a slur, however you want to deem it was directed, is important, and I attempted to put it within the time line you insist upon.  As far as my views on those who use slurs, how do you feel about them?  Do you condone the use of a slur word, even when the user has to go on to spin/explain that it wasn't directed at a race?  He even acknowledges that it's offensive, &amp;quot;in language that may offend some people.&amp;quot;  If he's not afraid to use the term, then I think people should be aware of that fact.  Perhaps our ideas of what a dictionary is are different.  I believe it should be a fact-filled resource, and you'd prefer to put those aside and use laudatory statements instead.  Maybe we can compromise and just find a good section for the remarks, perhaps a Quotes section? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 22:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First and foremost, this is not a personal matter between us. We are working together on an encyclopedia, and your attempts to call me racist or culturally insensitive are unwarranted, uncivil, and downright disgusting. Slandering others is not and should not be your reason for being here. That being said, I would like to remind you that McCain was a longstanding supporter of Vietnam-American relations, and cultivated a very favorable opinion among Vietnamese Americans. The statement in question was not a matter or racism, but rather, or political correctness. Apparently, you haven't made the distinction, as you said &amp;quot;If he's not afraid to use the term, I think that's a problem&amp;quot; whereas the more factual approach would be &amp;quot;he still has hatred towards his prison guards, and expresses it in ways that are reckless&amp;quot;. Furthermore, given the coverage of the 2000 election, I would find it hard to justify placing the quote inside that section; there simply isn't any context explaining the significance or historical background. Perhaps if the campaign was explained in better terms, and I mean far more extensively, this statement could be put in the section within appropriate context.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 09:31, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You were actually the one who first made this a personal matter when you stated, &amp;quot;What you think about people who use racial slurs is misleading and inappropriate;&amp;quot;  I wasn't even making a judgment about the quote in the entry.  I was including the information so that other people could come to their own conclusions.  If you don't want it in the 2000 election section, perhaps we should put it amongst his Vietnam service section.  I think immediately concluding his POW section would be a good spot, as it directly relates to his captivity and prison guards.  Would you like to place it there or shall I?  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:40, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Oh, and can you please point to the spot where I called you a racist or culturally insensitive?  I don't recall using either of those words, so I'd be interested in you locating that quote.  If, on the other hand, you can't find the spot where I called you either of those, then I do expect an apology, as it was an unwarranted, uncivil, and completely false accusation on your part. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 09:42, 17 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the article mentions McCain's positions on Iraq and Iran, how about mentioning his views on [[Czechoslovakia]]? He's mentioned twice in speeches in the last week concerns about events going on right now in Czechoslovakia.... (Czechoslovakia has not existed at all since 1993).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ctrooprers edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I reverted the edits, I tend to agree with them as the sections he removed are not really appropriate for an encyclopedia.  Certainly they would be appropriate in a very lengthy essay about the presidential compaign but I don't think it's necessary here.  I suggest we try to get a consensus over the next 48 hours and so if no-one objects I'll delete the comments.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 17:45, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Some of them are valid in the context that McCain has been getting more press lately regarding his gaffes, not because they are simple mistakes, but because of concerns about his age and fitness to serve for the next 4-8 years.  The Iran/Al-Qaeda gaffe was noteworthy because Senator Lieberman had to interrupt him and correct him in front of reporters.  In the past week he also talked about tensions on &amp;quot;the Iraq/Afghanistan border&amp;quot;.  McCain has made comments I can research (read them on Huffington) denying his prior positions and quotes, which are either complete reversals of position or lapses in memory.  Are these actual signs of unfitness?  I'm not sure about that, but including them in the McCain article under the heading &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot; would be entirely appropriate since it has been discussed in the press ans Sunday talk shows as well. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:58, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I disagree that these should be filed under &amp;quot;Concerns about age&amp;quot;, because I don't think they're necessarily age-related.  Rather, Shia v. Sunni is particularly important, and for him to make the mistake twice brings questions to his knowledge and criticisms of Obama over foreign policy.  But to put them under &amp;quot;concerns about age&amp;quot; trivializes them and makes it seem petty, IMO.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I absolutely object.  I think two of the quotes are very appropriate for the article.  The first is relevant in that Obama was being criticized here for the use of the word &amp;quot;bomb&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;bomb'''s'''&amp;quot;, and saying &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot;.  Also, McCain's criticism of Obama and foreign policy, when McCain has repeatedly confused Sunni and Shia, and who makes up the majority of the Iranian population and Al Qaeda.  If you want to delete the second one, I won't be terribly opposed to it.  And the third is important in that much of McCain's campaign centers around his military service.  When Wes Clark made his remarks recently about military service as a qualification for president, there was an uproar.  I think it is, therefore, very relevant when McCain talks about military service---especially when he's said something that flies in the face of what he now claims.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Re the Obama Criticism.  Remember that that was in the main page, which is basically just a trivia/blog section, whereas this article is part of the encyclopedia proper, and thus must be accurate and trustworthy like all the other pages are.  Therefore I don't think its fair to compare the Obama gaffe with that here.  I suggest that the first should be left in as being relevant to his ability to perform the presidency, but the second and third should be removed as trivia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The second example, misstating &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;47 states&amp;quot; was not part of the trivia/blog section, but is in the article.  And it wasn't a misstatement, but he stated it on two consecutive days, so you know his campaign corrected him after the first instance.--[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:29, 22 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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While I commend everyone for your work and interest, we should remember this generic article is about John McCain.  Saying who he is, how he got there, and what he believes is fine, but individual elements and speeches during his Presidential run should probably be handled under the Presidential campaign articles.  It could certainly be grouped there in ways that could flow more easily. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:37, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mention of NY Times Op-Ed rejection under Iraq Heading==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not sure the rejection of a single Op-Ed piece merits a mention in an encyclopedia article on McCain - It's already covered in CP under [[Liberal Bias]] anyway, and seems trivial in this context.  If its inclusion here can be justified, then it should be moved to a different heading like &amp;quot;McCain and the Media&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;Iraq&amp;quot;, since the nature of the Op-Ed piece the Times was looking for spanned more than Iraq.  It should also be revised, because in it's current form it's misleading as to why the original piece was rejected. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:42, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, its trivial fluff and it's prejudicial content is greater than its probative value.--[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 09:49, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have removed the section. The story itself is irrelevant to McCain's political beliefs, and in consideration of the longstanding cooperation that the New York Times has provided to the Senator, I feel that there is no wrongdoing or substantial political swipe connected to this. I appreciate the well-cited, researched information, but placing the day-to-day events of what is included or excluded in a newspaper does not connect well with the article. It would be more appropriate for the Presidential campaign, but even in that context, it is rather weak and inconsequential.--[[User:CTrooper|CTrooper]] 11:18, 23 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== McCain vs. Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the obvious bias towards McCain shown in the difference between the two articles, why not just SAY that Conservapedia endorses McCain? Both men have flaws; if you lead with the flaws in the Obama article, and suppress McCain's flaws due to bias, how is this an encyclopedia and how is it &amp;quot;trustworthy?&amp;quot; Yes, I am a liberal, but I may vote for McCain based on experience, but until the election, it would be nice to see unbiased versions of the articles. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 10:16, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We are keeping the McCain article as unbiased as possible as a stand-alone piece. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:25, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And the Obama article? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:26, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Should be discussed on the Obama page.  We do the best we can with the John McCain article on this, the John McCain page. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:34, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes, but the original question pertained to both the McCain and Obama article.  You only answered about the McCain article, and quite clearly stated about keeping it as unbiased as possible.  You have the ability to give an answer to me about the Obama article here, but specifically chose not to relate it to the question, but instead said take it elsewhere.  Since the original question pertained to both, I hope that you will answer both---or let me know and I'll post it on the Obama talk page and you can answer it there instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:38, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::This is the McCain article.  I answer questions on John McCain and how to make this article the best it can be.  Feel free to post the question on Obama's talk page since, ostensibly, that is the article where you have the most concerns.  As I no longer frequent that article, you will not receive a reply from me. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:58, 1 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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My edit to the Personal Life section of the article should not be reverted, as it is a valid contribution to the page.  It is part of his personal life, and it is note-worthy.  In the interest of keeping the article unbiased, both the positive and negative should be included. --[[User:AlrightThen|AlrightThen]] 20:48, 8 August 2008 (CDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm, so men don't cheat on their wives anymore.  They &amp;quot;have difficulties with&amp;quot; them.  Glad you guys are working so hard to defend the institution of marriage.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 19:55, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Both of the above comments are incomplete, and it's impossible to glean what your points are.  Try to be clearer.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:58, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This issue has come up in the past.  Please see my talk page under McCain Edit and the reasons why your edit is inappropriate.  Then please move on to constructive edits.  Thank you [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 20:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bridget McCain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There seems to be conflicting information regarding Bridget McCain's birth year (1991 or 1993).  According to the other reference Jpratt uses, &amp;quot;rightpundits.com&amp;quot;, the site states, &amp;quot;Cindy McCain was touring 3rd world countries with Mother Teresa in 1991 to provide medical attention to needy children. During this tour, Cindy and Mother Teresa toured an orphanage in Bangladesh where Cindy picked up a baby that was only a few months old.&amp;quot;  Also, under the Bio section, &amp;quot;Bridget McCain was born in 1991 in Bangladesh.&amp;quot; [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1636 Bridget McCain is John McCain's Daughter].  Any suggestions for a way to resolve the differing information? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:26, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The India link wasn't enough for ya? Google search 1-70k for 1993, 1-58k for 1991-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:37, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The India link, which was confusing and not very clear, I would match with the rightpundits site I provided.  So two sites with differing information.  And if the Google results were 70k to 12, then I would consider that evidence.  But 70k v. 58k isn't a strong case for one or the other.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:51, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, and if you google &amp;quot;Bridget McCain&amp;quot; 1991, you get 779 results.  Doing the same with 1993 yields 546 results.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:52, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh, if your Google search is limited to english only sites, you get 58k Bridget McCain 1991 and you get 71k Bridget McCain 1993-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:55, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Suggestion for an administrator==&lt;br /&gt;
This article has become so long, I think it would look nicer if there were more pictures. I was hoping one of you could upload these into the article. http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/rice-mccain-741881.jpg under &amp;quot;foreign policy&amp;quot; and this under &amp;quot;2008 Presidential campaign.&amp;quot; http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg If not that's fine, but I would appreciate it. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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: You need to check out who owns those pictures first and whether it's OK with them for others to copy them.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:31, 20 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got them from a blog while searching Google images. Hard for me to find out who &amp;quot;owns&amp;quot; them. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 20 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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O.K., I emailed Top News.com, which is where I got this image, http://www.topnews.in/usa/files/John_mccain_returns_to_NH.jpg. They said I could use it because it's under &amp;quot;creative commons license.&amp;quot; [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 21 August 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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== education ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the main page, much was made of Obama's lack of educational achievements. [http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/]  That article mentions that McCain actually graduated in the bottom 1% of his class at the Naval Academy.  I think that this information that should go into the McCain article.  --[[User:DrHubertJNugz|DrHubertJNugz]] 15:38, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So yes, ASchlafly is censoring the truth, even though his edit summary claims that Obama didn't release his college performance. ''Magna cum laude'' is a really good performance. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 10:08, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You will have to take it up with Andy.  Based on the idea that Obama has not opened up his college record for review, a decision was made to remove that information on McCain.  It it were permissible, I would want to see the wording, &amp;quot;near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;.  It seems less sensational that way. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:41, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You mean [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3ADesk%2FAbuse&amp;amp;diff=513169&amp;amp;oldid=510916 this Andy]? Yeah, right, the only result I can think of is hitting my head against a brick wall. Since when does Obama's college record have anything to do with disclosing McCain's? Obama says &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot;, it's jumped all over. Obama says &amp;quot;my Muslim faith&amp;quot;, its jumped all over. McCain doesn't remember how many houses he owns, but its vehemently denied into his article. Pretty simple to see what's going on, but I shouldn't be the one (powerless) who stands up to it. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 14:50, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is just b.s. SamuelHTD. Obama need not disclose but since McCains has, it is fair game? This is a site with conservative POV but that doesn't mean liberals have not included 'not-in-the-best-light' statements on McCain's page. Do we need to include every liberal attack against McCain? Hell no. BTW, I am not expecting your return comment since you're gone. ta ta-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:07, 10 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'm baaaack, your [[parthian shot]] failed. If you don't include the information because the other candidate didn't disclose yadda yadda, what's with the hubbub over Obama's &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; birth, with birth certificate provided, compared to McCain's ''lack of'' birth certificate, and doesn't even show on the [http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/Americaneocon/PH2008050201443.jpg record of births]? Going by your logic, we should either a) post that McCain can't prove his birth record, or b) remove all the gossip and ideology regarding Obama's birth? [[User:SamuelHTD|Sam]] 10:36, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::For what it's worth, the [[Joe Biden]] article mentions quite a bit about his academic record, including the current cost of the high school he attended over 40 years ago, and the fact that he graduated ''&amp;quot;from the Syracuse University College of Law in 1968 near the bottom of his class&amp;quot;''.--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 11:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Allard's amendment&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Same-sex marriage section, it includes a quote where McCain refers to &amp;quot;Senator Allard's amendment&amp;quot;, but the section makes no reference before this to what Senator Allard's amendment is. Perhaps the section could be cleaned up a bit, and a short description included. I know many people can derive a general sense of the bill's content through context, but younger readers might find this a bit confusing, and I didn't want to perform major &amp;quot;article surgery&amp;quot; without an idea of what the &amp;quot;operation&amp;quot; should be! [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 14:22, 4 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Casmier.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Senator John McCain, R-Arizona''']] '''John Sidney McCain III''' (born in the U.S. [[Panama Canal]] Zone, August 29, 1936) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m0003http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Button_enter.png Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, is the Republican nominee for President in 2008, prominent maverick politician and Vietnam War hero, and is the senior [[United States Senate|Senator]] of [[Arizona]]. He has been an influential leader in American politics since 1986, when he ran for office crusading against corruption, attacking pork barrel spending and working for campaign finance reform.  He was defeated by [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2008 kept his distance from the president, despite efforts of Democrats to paint the two as close allies.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a pilot for the United States Navy and former Prisoner-of-War (POW), he served in the military for 22 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m000303 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain, a [[Baptist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296973,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has impressive credentials on issues of foreign policy and national security, which have propelled him in the forefront of national politics as both an outspoken voice for the United States military and as a Presidential contender for the Republican Party since 1993.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain is the [[Republican]] nominee for [[President of the United States of America|President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 Election]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NATIONWORLD/803050441/0/LOCAL1901 ''McCain clinches GOP nomination; Huckabee bows out''] 5 March 2008 IndyStar.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255535,00.html John McCain Announces Plans for '08 Presidential Candidacy on 'Late Night With David Letterman'], Associated Press, 1 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's family has a long history of military service, including ancestors who fought as army soldiers in the Indian Wars, [[American Revolutionary War]], [[War of 1812]], for the Confederate States of America in the [[American Civil War]], and in [[World War I]]. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking United States Navy admirals. In addition, McCain's two sons are currently serving in the U.S. Navy. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1951, the McCain family moved to Northern [[Virginia]] and he attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. McCain was on the wrestling team and went on to graduate in 1954. He later joined the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in 1958.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Military career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain 1965.jpg|left|thumb|200px|McCain photographed in 1965]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain served heroically in the [[United States Navy]] from 1958 to 1981. He spent two and a half years as a naval aviator in training at the Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas. By 1967, McCain was a veteran pilot aboard the ''USS Forrestal'' aircraft carrier off the coast of Vietnam. On 29 July 1967, while preparing to take off on a bombing run over North Vietnam, a missile accidentally fired from another plane, hitting the fuel tanks on McCain's aircraft and triggering explosions and a fire. McCain escaped from his plane by crawling onto the nose of the aircraft and diving on to the ship's deck which was ablaze from burning fuel. His attempt to rescue a fellow pilot whose flight suit was on fire was prevented when McCain was blown over by further explosions. When the fire was contained 24 hours later, 134 men had been killed and hundreds more injured. It was called the worst non-combat-related accident in U.S. naval history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=526451&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The coronation of the ultimate survivor, John McCain''] 5 March 2008 [[Daily Mail]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-Of-War (1967 - 1973)===&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 26, 1967, as McCain was flying over Hanoi's Thermal Power Plant during his 23rd bombing mission, he was shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese. He had just released his bombs when [[A-4 Skyhawk|his plane]] was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. As he ejected, unconscious from the accident, he broke his knee and both arms and descended by parachute into a lake. When he floated ashore, Vietnamese locals spit and kicked him, nearly killing him. The police took him to Hoa Loa Prison where he was held in solitary captivity without medical attention or sufficient food. During brutal interrogations, he was asked for information in return for medical care. McCain refused, giving only his name and date of birth. When it was discovered that he was the son of a top U.S. Admiral, he was given medical care. Hospital personnel never believed he would survive, as he had large wounds and weighed a mere 100 lbs. He also had completely white hair, a product of accelerated aging under harsh conditions. Nonetheless, his health improved and McCain was held as a Prisoner-Of-War (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton. As a prisoner, guards tortured him with frequent beatings and painful contortions, breaking his teeth and bones. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After months of beating sessions and intense interrogations, McCain was psychologically and physically weakened. At one point, he was forced to sign a statement which made claims exonerating his captors of inhumane treatment. The paper was intended for use as propaganda, but in all their subsequent attempts for promoting a &amp;quot;humane&amp;quot; image of the POW camp, McCain worked his hardest to thwart them. In 1971, four years from his capture, he was placed with 20 to 30 other Americans in better treatment. They were allowed to celebrate Christian holidays, including Christmas. McCain, who served as an impromptu chaplain, recalled that during their services, men cried; &amp;quot;They were tears of joy that for the first time... we were able to celebrate Christmas together.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of his father's high military status, McCain was offered early release, which he adamantly refused in honor of the &amp;quot;First in, first out&amp;quot; clause of the POW Code of Conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 14, 1973, after five and a half years of imprisonment, McCain was released alongside 106 other pilots under the Nixon administration. McCain received a heartfelt reception at the White House and was pronounced a war hero and eminent voice for the Vietnam War.  Awards from the military followed, including the Legion of Merit, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, a [[Purple Heart]], the [[Distinguished Flying Cross]], and the Vietnamese Legion of Honor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain's severe war injuries prevent him today from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return to the Navy (1973 - 1981)===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Vietnam War and his military service remained strong in McCain's memory. He immediately wanted to rejoin the Navy, and spent years preparing with excruciating physical therapy and a year of study in the Naval War College, where he attacked the liberal anti-war movement for weakening the morale of his fellow POWs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kirkpatrick, David D. &amp;quot;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/14/america/15pows.php In '74 thesis, the seeds of McCain's war views.]&amp;quot; The New York Times (June 15, 2008) p. A1.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With his extensive experience in the Navy's Aviation division, he was selected to reform the flying fleet as Commanding Officer. John McCain quickly transformed his crew's personnel, which had been underfunded in the post-Vietnam era. Carl Smith, who served under McCain, stated, &amp;quot;He immediately began making changes. He fired people, and he replaced people at the top who he thought were not being as effective as he wanted them to be. He wanted real leadership. He wanted the squadron to come to life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 57&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many in his staff were disappointed to have him leave, and praised his work in promoting efficiency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Command of a training squadron (1976-77), gave him some executive experience, which his supporters contrast to [[Barack Obama]]'s lack of any executive experience whatsoever. Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate [[Mike Huckabee]] said that this experience should be valued because just one choice he makes in that position could have disastrous consequences.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his assignment to the Senate as the Navy's liaison, 1977-81, McCain began to join the ranks of politicians. He transformed the position from a rather unimportant post into one of authority and respect{{fact}}, gaining allies in the Senate. The Senate liaison role provided a learning experience in national security policy and foreign affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political career==&lt;br /&gt;
===Congressional (1982 - 1986)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to entering public service, McCain worked in [[Phoenix]] for his father-in-law's company, Hensley &amp;amp; Co, which was an Anheuser-Busch beer wholesaler and distributor. With nagging injuries and limited physical mobility, McCain realized he would never become a four-star general like his forefathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography (1936-)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some biographers argue that he shifted into politics so that he could achieve the equivalent in politics, leading to his Senatorial career. After gaining support from local business leaders, he ran for a congressional seat for Arizona's 1st congressional district as a Republican in 1982. His [[liberal]] opponents labeled him as a &amp;quot;carpetbagger&amp;quot;. McCain responded to a voter making the charge of &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot; saying,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With the endorsements of local newspapers, McCain easily won the election. In 1983, he became President of the Republican freshman class of representatives. At the time, he largely supported Reagan's hard stance against the [[Soviet Union]], his tax cuts and matters on Indian Affairs. He did, however, break with the President on the decision to place a U.S. military presence in Lebanon, saying {{cquote|''I do not foresee obtainable objectives in Lebanon; I believe the longer we stay, the more difficult it will be to leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 100&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} During his four years in [[Congress]], McCain and his wife Cindy had three children.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senatorial (1986 - Present)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Reagan mccain.jpg|left|thumb|300px|3/3/1987 President Reagan and Nancy Reagan greet John McCain in the Blue Room during a dinner for newly elected members of the 100th Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Republican and [[conservative]] icon [[Barry Goldwater]] retired from the United States Senate in Arizona in 1986, Congressman McCain announced his candidacy for the seat. He easily won the election, defeating his Democratic opponent Richard Kimball by 20 percentage points. When entering the Senate, he became a member of the powerful Armed Services Committee and he also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. During the 1988 Presidential Election, McCain was named chairman of Veterans for Bush. In 1991, Senator McCain became part of the &amp;quot;Keating Five&amp;quot; scandal, where McCain and four other Senators (all Democrats) were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received approximately $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined that McCain was not involved in any wrongdoing, and McCain, along with the four other Senators, was not charged with any crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; Image in the Senate====&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has gained a reputation as a &amp;quot;maverick&amp;quot; for his sponsorship of many bills and leadership on almost every issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic [[Wisconsin]] Senator [[Russ Feingold]] on campaign finance reform. The McCain-Feingold bill banned &amp;quot;soft money&amp;quot;. It passed and was signed into law on November 6th, 2002, by President Bush. In the 1990's, McCain gained attention for his strong opposition to pork barrel spending. He championed the 1996 Line Item Veto Act, which gave the President the power to veto individual spending items. However, in 1998, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled the act unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time in 2007, according to Congressional Quarterly's &amp;quot;Presidential Support Scores&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/512/ Politifact fact checks McCain's voting support&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Issues include making the Bush tax cuts permanent (even though he originally opposed and voted against them), energy independence, winning the war in Iraq, reforming Social Security, and continuing and expanding Bush's supply-side economic policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, McCain asked for $0 in earmarks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database 2008 ''Pig Book''], Council for Citizens Against Government Waste&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 100% in 2007 (88% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain launched his first campaign for President in 2000, when he challenged then-[[Texas]] Governor [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican nomination. McCain's campaign was surprisingly strong. By ignoring the [[Iowa Caucus]], he was able to win the [[New Hampshire]] Primary by nineteen percentage points. He then won the [[Michigan]] Primary. However, he went on to lose [[South Carolina]] and 9 out of the 13 [[Super Tuesday]] states. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following McCain's loss in the 2000 Presidential primary and reports of dirty tricks in [[South Carolina]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/21/the_anatomy_of_a_smear_campaign/ The anatomy of a smear campaign,  March 21, 2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2007/12/30/top-romney-advisor-tied-to-anonymous-attacks-of-previous-presidential-primary/ Top Romney advisor tied to anonymous attacks of previous presidential primary, December 30, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, McCain began to disagree with President Bush on many issues, such as tax cuts, climate change, and gun legislation. After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]], McCain wrote legislation that created the 9/11 Commission, while he and Democratic Senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security. In May 2005, McCain led the so-called &amp;quot;[[Gang of 14]]&amp;quot; in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;. McCain also co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform (see below under political record for details).   In addition to bipartisan work in the Senate, it was during this period that McCain was courted by the Senate Democrats, and considered switching parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:McCain_nomination.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain accepting his party's presidential nomination, 09/04/08]] McCain announced his run for President in the highly volatile 2008 Republican primary early in 2007 at New Hampshire. Throughout the early months, the debates represented a splintered Party among the strong Christian constituency (Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee), anti-immigration activists (Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo), and the blockbuster fundraising by Mitt Romney and Giuliani, who appeared to be media favorites upon entry. Mitt Romney raised $23 million in the first three months of 2007, for instance, three times that of Sen. McCain. In addition, McCain's refusal to sign pacts with important donors and his distaste for political fundraising&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;often left him at odds with the other candidates, namely Rudy Giuliani, who amassed over $10 million in March 2007 alone.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;amp;sid=aZ7SuEo0wuMM&amp;amp;refer=home&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain failed to win strong support because of his maverick image, especially with difficult relationships with key Christian leaders. Social conservatives flocked to Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee with strong disfavor for McCain because of his mixed statements on abortion and religious initiatives. Many evangelicals remained reluctant to support McCain because of longstanding offense he had raised during his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush; news had been raised that many influential Christian organizations would schism from the GOP if they did not reconcile relationships with the Republican Party nominee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luo, Michael. &amp;quot;Evangelicals see Dilemma in GOP Field.&amp;quot; July 8, 2007. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain also suffered from his strong support for the Iraq war, which had erupted in sharp violence during early 2007, and was attacked for his position on immigration reform, a hotly-debated issue among conservatives. A damaging false story by the New York Times, which claimed McCain had an affair with a lobbyist, hurt his stature. &lt;br /&gt;
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When news had spread that McCain's campaign bankrupted and &amp;quot;imploded&amp;quot; in the summer of 2007, the Republican nomination began a period of quick shifting; other candidates began to soar in the polls, detracting McCain's support. Rudy Giuliani, who collected a strong following based on his leadership as &amp;quot;America's Mayor&amp;quot;, began to court evangelical Christians who felt uneasy about McCain, gaining the endorsement of televangelist Pat Robertson. However, as his less-than-flattering personal life and liberal positions on social issues became apparent, he quickly lost momentum to Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Fred Thompson, who entered late in the race, quickly withdrew because of lackadaisical popularity and poor fund-raising efforts. Huckabee remained popular in the Southern United States, but failed to win major contests among independents and Democrat voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Romney had the edge in early races, but couldn't deliver a knockout blow.  McCain's poll numbers slowly increased and benefited as the field narrowed.  After McCain defeated top contender Mitt Romney by a large margin on Super Tuesday in delegate-rich states like New York, California, and Arizona,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Neuman and Howard Berkes. &amp;quot;Mitt Romney Drops Out of GOP Presidential Race.&amp;quot; Feb. 7, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18772382&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Mitt Romney withdrew with some protest, leaving McCain the clear front-runner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumiller, Elisabeth, Kirkpatrick, David. &amp;quot;Romney Is Out; McCain Emerges as G.O.P. Choice.&amp;quot; Feb. 8, 2008. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although McCain's proportion of the vote was not much higher than Romney's, he won most of the 'winner take all' states giving him a much higher proportion of the delegate count.  Without Romney's well-financed opposition, McCain easily clinched the necessary delegate lead of 1,191 in March after a spirited yet short-lived fight from Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NPR.org. &amp;quot;Election 2008: Huckabee, Romney Stay in Race for GOP Nomination.&amp;quot; Feb. 6, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18739137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain became the official Republican nominee on September 3 at the Republican National Convention. His running mate is Governor [[Sarah Palin]] of [[Alaska]] and his [[Democrat]] opponent is Senator [[Barack Obama]] of [[Illinois]]. Election day will be on November 4, 2008.  After trailing Obama in the national polls, McCain suddenly took the lead after the two conventions, baffling the Democrats who had built their own campaign entirely on attacking President Bush, whom McCain ignored.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The latest poll results are summarized at [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html Real Clear Politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political Views==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Domestic Issues'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain discusses his opinions with Tim Russert on &amp;quot;Meet the Press&amp;quot;, 2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Balanced Budget===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has emphasized reducing government spending over tax cuts. He is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of pork barrel spending and has pledged to veto any bill with pork as President. Congressional experience has enabled John McCain to identify items that are unnecessary. McCain is fiscally responsible with the taxpayers' money and created a simple method to detect spending abuses. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9] , http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9, U.S. Senate Pork Barrel Spending&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is a staunch advocate of freedom in the economy. McCain has spent his career fighting for deregulation and the prosperity of a free market. In 1999, McCain voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00105&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill promoted more freedom for banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00192&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2005 McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act which would allow the office of Federal Housing Enterprise oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over Federal Home Associations. McCain said the following on May 26th, 2006: &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Education]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports school vouchers and charter schools. His voting record shows support for reducing the federal government's role in education. He voted for school vouchers for Washington, D.C., education savings accounts, and against $5 billion for grants to local educational agencies. McCain sponsored the Education A-Plus bill in 1997 and again in 1999, which allowed parents to open tax-free saving accounts for their children's school supplies. McCain also co-sponsored the Child Nutrition Act, which would provide federal funding for at-risk children. He has publicly stated he supports [[intelligent design]] teaching in schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069 &amp;quot;On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools...McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes &amp;quot;all points of view&amp;quot; should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health Care===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record and stated positions on health care are based on true conservative principles. He is against socialized health care and health coverage mandates. McCain supports tax credits for personal health savings accounts and enhancing competition in the health care industry to improve quality and lower costs. He also supports allowing citizens to purchase out-of-state health insurance. In an October 2007 statement, McCain said: &amp;quot;In health care, we believe in enhancing the freedom of individuals to receive necessary and desired care. We do not believe in coercion and the use of state power to mandate care, coverage or costs.&amp;quot; McCain is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/healthcare.htm Pro Healthcare]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energy===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has stated &amp;quot;ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/4dbd2cc7-890e-47f1-882f-b8fc4cfecc78.htm], McCain Economic Plan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “America’s most vital interests call us to the mission of energy security, and so does our sense of honor. And the straightest, swiftest path to energy security is to produce more, use less, and find new sources of power — so that no commodity can determine our security, and no crisis can undermine our economy,” McCain said in Houston, TX, June 16, 2008. He proposes to remove federal obstacles to offshore drilling. Among his major initiatives is the removal of the 27-year old federal moratorium on states’ abilities to explore and drill for oil and natural gas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/17/mccain-slaps-obama-on-energy-calls-for-more-drilling/], McCain slaps Obama on energy, June 17th, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, he wants the states to receive incentives and royalties to drill. The current ban on offshore drilling covers an estimated 80 percent of U.S. coastal waters.&amp;quot;We've seen the impact of it in the form of food prices, in the form of gasoline, in the form of threats of inflation and indeed indications of inflation, and we must embark on a national mission to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain] , http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain , AP McCain urges end to ban on offshore drilling , June 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He indicated, though, that the end of the ban on offshore drilling would have mostly psychological effects in the short term.  At a town hall meeting, McCain stated, &amp;quot;I don't see an immediate relief, but I do see that exploitation of existing reserves that may exist -- and in view of many experts that do exist off our coasts -- is also a way that we need to provide relief. Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
He would support incentives for building new nuclear power plants. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/24/1163504.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain wants more nuclear reactors to increase America's energy independence. He is calling for the construction of 45 new reactors by 2030. Also, McCain wants to increase federal funds for clean coal technology by 2 billion dollars to reduce dependence on foreign oil. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1] , http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1 , AP McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors, June 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports increasing ethanol imports and more production of hybrid vehicles. He is co-sponsor of a Senate cap-and-trade bill designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions. He has consistently voted for preserving the budget for ANWR but against drilling for [[oil]] in the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]] (ANWR), because of environmental concerns.  Conservationists differ from conservatives that 2000 acres for oil drilling is not enough to impact [[polar bears]] in the region.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's position on global warming issues has put him at odds with conservatives. His environmental proposals are mostly sound modern thinking by someone that understands the enormity of the problem.  McCain says that we can go green as a nation without bankrupting America. Per his website, Senator McCain &amp;quot;wants to leave a better future for our children.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
On January 2007, McCain said, &amp;quot;we continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing this environmental problem. The science tells us that urgent and significant action is needed.&amp;quot; On October 30, 2003, he co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act (S.139), which was defeated. McCain is a member of, and was endorsed by, the Republicans for Environmental Protection organization. His conservative stances include voting to confirm Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior and he is in favor of renewable energy such as solar, hydro, and wind. &amp;quot;Wind power is one of many alternative energy sources that are changing our economy for the better, and one day they will change our economy forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Immigration]]===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain says that he will secure the borders first and many immigration issue are still needed but will have to come later. In 2007, McCain worked to provide border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants. Conservatives wanted nothing to do with the proposal and in June 2007, Congress' efforts collapsed. McCain said of the outcome,&amp;quot;I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm] , http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm, AP McCain emphasizes border security, November 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;..I support the same solution. But we've got to secure the borders first&amp;quot; says McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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On Jan. 5, regarding the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Senator McCain announced that anyone who says he supported amnesty is &amp;quot;a liar, is lying.&amp;quot; The senator stated &amp;quot;I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and I never have supported [[Social Security]] benefits for people who are in this country illegally. Any assertion to the contrary is absolutely false.&amp;quot; During the comprehensive immigration reform debate, Senator McCain voted to table an amendment that would have prevented illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security who &amp;quot;are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00130&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Senator McCain stated in a May 29, 2003 interview, &amp;quot;Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.&amp;quot; Arguing amnesty is not a free pass or a reward for law breaking, McCain stated, &amp;quot;Well, because amnesty, according to the dictionary, is forgiveness. The proposal that we had- would require fines, would require back in the line, would require deportation for some. It would require others to go back to the country of their origin&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm] , Ontheissues.com, John McCain on Immigration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the [[Republican]] debate at the Reagan Library, McCain stated he supports the deportation of 2 million illegals who have committed crimes in the USA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversely, in a June 2008 meeting with Hispanic leaders in Chicago, McCain indicated he would push legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.  According to one attendee, Rosanna Pulido, head of the Illinois [[Minuteman Project]], &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics...&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/mccain-discusses-immigrat_n_108297.html McCain Discusses Immigration With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-06-19-4020801806_x.htm McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Pulido further stated, &amp;quot;He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another, I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Due to his support, members of the Minuteman Project, participating in the Minuteman Project Caravan, traveled to Washington, D.C. to register their disapproval.  They made an entry into McCain's Guest Log Book asking him to uphold the Constitution and enforce the law.  After making the entry, the group was forced to leave by a senior staffer for Senator McCain or be reported to the police. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643181/posts Minuteman Project Thrown Out of McCain's Office&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator McCain's position on illegal immigration has arguably resulted in the most criticisms from conservatives. On May 12, 2005, McCain joined Senator [[Ted Kennedy]] (D-[[Massachusetts]]) as co-sponsor of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. The bill would legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million [[illegal alien]]s in the United States and have them immediately start collecting social security and other government benefits. The bill never came for a vote on the Senate floor. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 are two additional compromises based on the original McCain-Kennedy bill. McCain has consistently voted for visas for skilled workers. McCain voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and has said border security should be a bigger priority then the illegal aliens who are currently here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Global Trade===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has actively supported reducing barriers to trade and has shown leadership in the [[Senate]] on Free Trade Agreements (FTA). Senator McCain supports both pending FTAs for Columbia and [[South Korea]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/p/McCain_Trade.htm], John McCain and Trade&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He voted for and defends the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Social Security]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a strong supporter of private Social Security accounts. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Tax Reform===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2001, McCain gained attention as one of only two Republicans who voted against President Bush's tax cuts. He opposed accelerating the cuts in 2003, saying, &amp;quot;I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit.&amp;quot; He has now changed his stance, by voting to make the tax cuts permanent, and says he would do the same as President. In 2002, Senator McCain was one of only two Republicans to twice vote against the permanent repeal of the Death Tax. He has also refused to sign a pledge put forth by Americans for Tax Freedom not to impose any new taxes or increase existing taxes. However, many of McCain's votes has shown support for lower taxes, such as eliminating the marriage penalty, a 1997 vote to cut capital gains taxes and he introduced measures that would require a sixty-vote majority to pass a tax increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Foreign Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain urges the Senate to pass FISA. “For months, House Democrats, the [[ACLU]], and the trial lawyers have held up legislation to modernize our nation’s terrorist surveillance laws.  Today, the House passed a compromise bill to end this impasse.  While I would have preferred to see the Senate bill enacted, which I voted for earlier this year, I am pleased Congressional leaders and the Administration were able to reach an agreement to reform our current surveillance law and not let FISA expire in August.  I hope [[Senate]] Democrats will allow this matter to quickly be considered by the Senate and sent to the President for his signature.  I will support this measure and hope that politics will be put aside in favor of this vital national security matter.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=a7f9dc6c-da0e-459d-dd6c-91e20a46e1e5] , McCAIN URGES SENATE PASSAGE OF FISA &lt;br /&gt;
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McCain has voted in support of the [[Patriot Act|USA PATRIOT Act]] as well as National Missile Defense. However, he has joined [[liberal]]s in support of immediately closing [[Guantanamo Bay]], and moving all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. On October 3, 2005, he introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment which prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The bill was passed and signed by President [[George W. Bush]]. McCain has recently criticized the practice of [[waterboarding]], saying &amp;quot;they should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.&amp;quot; McCain voted against HR 2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which included provisions that would have prevented the CIA from water boarding prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Afghanistan]]===&lt;br /&gt;
After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] McCain was a strong advocate for military action in Afghanistan, saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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''We did not cause this war. Our enemies did, and they are to blame for the deprivations and difficulties it occasions. They are to'' ''blame for the loss of innocent life. They are to blame for the geopolitical problems confronting our friends and us. We can help'' ''repair the damage of war. But to do so, we must destroy the people who started it.'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95001375&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is currently calling for 15,000 additional troops to address the situation in Afghanistan, similar to his victorious 2007 troop surge in Iraq.   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Iran]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has said that &amp;quot;We continue to be concerned about Iranian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons.&amp;quot; He tried to ban Iran from playing in the 2006 World Cup, citing Iranian President [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]'s [[Holocaust]] denials.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Iraq]]===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:610x.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, 03/17/08]] McCain voted with the majority [[Republican]] Party and 29 Democrats of the Senate in favor of the 2002 &amp;quot;Iraq War Resolution&amp;quot; authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war against Iraq and overthrow the [[Saddam Hussein]] regime. In 1998, McCain voted in favor of HR 4655 Iraq Liberation Act, signed by then President Clinton. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm], http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm, HR4655 Public Law: 105-338, October 31, 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; HR 4655 declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government. McCain went on to became a critic of the management of the war, arguing that there wasn't enough troop strength in the area. However, he never became a defeatist advocating surrender. McCain publicly stated that he had &amp;quot;no confidence&amp;quot; in then-Secretary of Defense [[Donald Rumsfeld]]. However, he refused to call for his resignation, saying that &amp;quot;the President picks his team, and the president has the right to stay with that team if he wants to.&amp;quot; McCain became one of the strongest leading advocates in the Senate for the 2007 troop surge, which increased the number of American troops by 20,500, deployed to provide security to [[Baghdad]] and Al Anbar Province. On February 4, he criticized a non-binding resolution opposing the troop buildup, calling it a reckless &amp;quot;vote of no confidence&amp;quot; in the U.S. Commanders and in the military. Additionally, he voted against all measures aimed at withdrawal of U.S. forces and voted against cutting off of war funds. McCain rightly believes that Congress should not micromanage the war and to give the military everything they ask for to successfully complete the mission. He has mentioned in a town hall forum that staying the course in Iraq for 'a hundred years' would not bother him if no American soldier's were losing their lives. This became an issue for Democratic political strategy. The DNC lead by chairman [[Howard Dean]] repeatedly tried to use false statements in justifying attacking McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html, Washington post Fact Checker, April 2, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What McCain said is very different from what the liberal media and the DNC were reporting. Asked in Derry, NH of the willingness to keep troops in Iraq for 50 years, he said &amp;quot;Make it 100&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Russia]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCain has strongly criticized Russian President [[Vladimir Putin]]. During a primary debate he sad, &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He bullies his neighbors and he wants to get a control of the energy supply of Western Europe. This is a dangerous person. And he has to understand that there's a cost to some of his actions.&amp;quot; In 2005 McCain and [[Connecticut]] senator [[Joe Lieberman]] drafted a resolution banning Russia from attending the Group of 8 (G8) international forum. McCain is also a strong supporter of ballistic national missile defenses.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Cuba]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain forcefully supports the [[Cuban embargo]] and believes it should be maintained until certain specific political freedoms are restored to the country. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&amp;amp;adxnnl=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;fta=y&amp;amp;adxnnlx=1222106556-zea3cQG12OakFI9P97dogQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Social Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Abortion]]===&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If I am fortunate enough to be elected as the next President of the United States, I pledge to you to be a loyal and unswerving friend of the right to life movement.&amp;quot;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. John McCain has more than a twenty year anti-abortion record, first in the [[U.S. House of Representatives]], then in the U.S. Senate. McCain voted 11 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life issues in  the House. Senator McCain has voted 119 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life measures in the Senate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf], http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Voted against a [[Roe v. Wade]] resolution&lt;br /&gt;
* Co-sponsored and voted for the Federal Abortion Ban&lt;br /&gt;
* Supported H.R.1997, the Unborn Victims of Violence Act&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Voted for four anti-abortion U.S. Supreme Court judges&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;Voted for six anti-abortion lower court judges&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Supported H.R.3913, to prohibit federal funds for abortion services in any case &lt;br /&gt;
* Voted to make it a federal crime for anyone but a parent to cross state lines for abortion termination&lt;br /&gt;
* Voted in favor of a national network of parental notification.&lt;br /&gt;
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''John McCain's Pro-Life Words''&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.”Ann Althouse, Rudy &amp;amp; Mitt Hem &amp;amp; Haw on Abortion, N.Y. TIMES, Feb. 24, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. McCain’s campaign website  “believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned.” John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;My record is clear. And I think the important thing is you look at people’s voting record because sometimes rhetoric can be a little… misleading…. As you know I don’t support Roe v. Wade…. I thought it was a bad decision, and I think that the decision should be made in the states&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
(John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life)&lt;br /&gt;
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“I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen.” McCain explained further that he “will try to find clones of Alito and Roberts” to fill future court vacancies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26539], Letter from Sen. John McCain to Pro‐Life Community Janary 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record in the Senate on abortion is pro-life. He voted for the 2003 Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. McCain has also voted against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00214 Voted Nay on an amendment to authorize grants to carry out programs to provide education on preventing teen pregnancies&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00075 Vote against allocation of $100m for prevention of unintended pregnancies &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nowpublic.com/quiet-campaign-against-contraception Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast that he has &amp;quot;consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs.&amp;quot; And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During his first Presidential campaign for the 2000 election, McCain said the following on [[Roe v. Wade]], &amp;quot;I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07021908.html McCain's &amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has since changed his position, saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Gun Control]]===&lt;br /&gt;
A top official of the [[National Rifle Association]] said Republican John McCain has been a reliable ally of gun owners despite divisions with the powerful lobbying group on some issues. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press &amp;quot;...We're not foolish enough to ignore the vast areas of agreement in which John McCain has been a friend to gun owners.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Republican presidential nominee has voted against a ban on assault-type weapons with restrictions which were objected.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record on gun control is mixed. He co-sponsored the Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. This act would reduce the number of gun shows, require gun-owners to purchase trigger locks, and allow federal agents to arrest those who violate federal gun laws. However, McCain has frequently voted in support of the Second Amendment, such as voting against background checks at gun shows and voting in support of prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. In August of 1999, McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details. However, he still voted against the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and the efforts to renew it, as well as the Brady Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Same-sex marriage]]===&lt;br /&gt;
In the speech on the Senate floor July 13th, 2004, McCain stated “Mr. President, most Americans believe, as I do, that the institution of marriage should be reserved for the union of a man and a woman.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.friendsofmccain.com/news/dspnews.cfm?id=143&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain revealed his decision based on super majority requirements and the current political realities within Congress. “By my count, there is not at this time even a small majority of senators who would vote for Senator Allard’s amendment, much less the 67 votes required by the Constitution. That won’t change, Mr. President, unless public opinion changes significantly. The [[Founders]], wisely, made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend, and, as a practical political matter, can’t be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that. Were it any easier I fear we could not make the claim for the Constitution’s enduring success that I have just made.&amp;quot; Further, he explained his approach to the amendment's ultimate success “If a constitution is to be amended, Mr. President, it should be a state constitution.&amp;quot; McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In May 2008, the California Supreme Court effectively created a ruling to grant same-sex partners equal rights to [[Marriage]] and to be recognized by the state. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator &amp;quot;doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Votes missed == &lt;br /&gt;
As of August 2007, McCain had missed more votes during the current session of Congress than any Senator other than [[South Dakota]] [[Democrat]] [[Tim Johnson]], who had suffered a brain hemorrhage that had kept him from Congress. He had missed over 48% of his votes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lawrence Journal-World, August 10, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is due to the fact that he is running a nationwide campaign for President.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cindy McCain.jpg|thumb|Cindy McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has been married twice.  His first marriage, to Carol Shepp, ended in [[divorce]] in 1980 after 15 years, of which he spent five in captivity. McCain admitted responsibility for the breakup.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/rules021299.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His second and current wife is Cindy Lou Hensley, to whom he has been married for 28 years.  His son John Sidney IV is a Midshipman at the [[United States Naval Academy]], Annapolis, and his son James is a non-commissioned officer in the [[United States Marine Corps]], who is serving in [[Iraq]] as part of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]].  Also, the McCains adopted a ten-week old baby girl in 1993, who they named Bridget, from [[Mother Teresa]]'s orphanage in [[Bangladesh]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3183 Bridget McCain Biography] Rightpundits.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/109022008.htm Bridget vs Sonia: McCain vs Rajiv Gandhi] News Analysis India&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Cindy McCain was in the country as part of the American Voluntary Medical Team &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-bio,1,2151434.story Bio of Cindy McCain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in response to the 1991 [[Bangladesh]] cyclone.&lt;br /&gt;
===McCain's family===&lt;br /&gt;
*Wife Cindy &lt;br /&gt;
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**John (''&amp;quot;Jack&amp;quot;'') Sidney IV &lt;br /&gt;
**James &lt;br /&gt;
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**Meghan&lt;br /&gt;
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**[[Admiral]] John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from [[Indiana]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Roberta McCain|Roberta Wright McCain]] (from [[Oklahoma]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Faith of My Fathers'' (Random House; 1999) ISBN 0-3755-0191-6&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Odysseus in America'' (Scribner; 2002) ISBN 0-7432-1156-1&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Worth Fighting For: A Memoir'' (Diane Publ. Co; 2002) ISBN 0-7567-6759-8&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Medal of Honor'' (Artisan; 2003) ISBN 1-5796-5240-9&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life'' (Random House; 2004) ISBN 1-4000-6030-3&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember'' (Random House; 2005) ISBN 1-4000-6412-0&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them'' (Twelve; 2007) ISBN 0-4466-9911-X&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCain, John [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513224&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''My six years of hell: John McCain recalls life as a prisoner of war in Vietnam''] 8 February 2008 [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 9 February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Previous Breaking News/John McCain|Articles about '''John McCain''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[White House]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cindy McCain]], spouse of [[John McCain]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberta McCain]], mother of [[John McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsckD9trn4&amp;amp;eurl=http://evangelicalsformccain.org/meetthesenator.htm ''John McCain: Courageous Service''] - Streaming video documentary hosted at YouTube, including footage of McCain's time as a POW and the Forrestal incident. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://evangelicalsformccain.org/index.htm Evangelicals for McCain] - Christians, Families and Patriots for John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://studentsformccain08.blogspot.com/ Students for McCain 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/mccains-mom-pop.html McCain's Mom Pops Off]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rd.com/national-interest/people-and-politics/our-interview-with-sen-john-mccain/article.html Presidential Candidate John McCain on the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Casmier.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Senator John McCain, R-Arizona''']] '''John Sidney McCain III''' (born in the U.S. [[Panama Canal]] Zone, August 29, 1936) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m0003http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Button_enter.png Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, is the Republican nominee for President in 2008, prominent maverick politician and Vietnam War hero, and is the senior [[United States Senate|Senator]] of [[Arizona]]. He has been an influential leader in American politics since 1986, when he ran for office crusading against corruption, attacking pork barrel spending and working for campaign finance reform.  He was defeated by [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2008 kept his distance from the president, despite efforts of Democrats to paint the two as close allies.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a pilot for the United States Navy and former Prisoner-of-War (POW), he served in the military for 22 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m000303 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain, a [[Baptist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296973,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has impressive credentials on issues of foreign policy and national security, which have propelled him in the forefront of national politics as both an outspoken voice for the United States military and as a Presidential contender for the Republican Party since 1993.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain is the [[Republican]] nominee for [[President of the United States of America|President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 Election]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NATIONWORLD/803050441/0/LOCAL1901 ''McCain clinches GOP nomination; Huckabee bows out''] 5 March 2008 IndyStar.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255535,00.html John McCain Announces Plans for '08 Presidential Candidacy on 'Late Night With David Letterman'], Associated Press, 1 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's family has a long history of military service, including ancestors who fought as army soldiers in the Indian Wars, [[American Revolutionary War]], [[War of 1812]], for the Confederate States of America in the [[American Civil War]], and in [[World War I]]. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking United States Navy admirals. In addition, McCain's two sons are currently serving in the U.S. Navy. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1951, the McCain family moved to Northern [[Virginia]] and he attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. McCain was on the wrestling team and went on to graduate in 1954. He later joined the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in 1958.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Military career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain 1965.jpg|left|thumb|200px|McCain photographed in 1965]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain served heroically in the [[United States Navy]] from 1958 to 1981. He spent two and a half years as a naval aviator in training at the Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas. By 1967, McCain was a veteran pilot aboard the ''USS Forrestal'' aircraft carrier off the coast of Vietnam. On 29 July 1967, while preparing to take off on a bombing run over North Vietnam, a missile accidentally fired from another plane, hitting the fuel tanks on McCain's aircraft and triggering explosions and a fire. McCain escaped from his plane by crawling onto the nose of the aircraft and diving on to the ship's deck which was ablaze from burning fuel. His attempt to rescue a fellow pilot whose flight suit was on fire was prevented when McCain was blown over by further explosions. When the fire was contained 24 hours later, 134 men had been killed and hundreds more injured. It was called the worst non-combat-related accident in U.S. naval history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=526451&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The coronation of the ultimate survivor, John McCain''] 5 March 2008 [[Daily Mail]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-Of-War (1967 - 1973)===&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 26, 1967, as McCain was flying over Hanoi's Thermal Power Plant during his 23rd bombing mission, he was shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese. He had just released his bombs when [[A-4 Skyhawk|his plane]] was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. As he ejected, unconscious from the accident, he broke his knee and both arms and descended by parachute into a lake. When he floated ashore, Vietnamese locals spit and kicked him, nearly killing him. The police took him to Hoa Loa Prison where he was held in solitary captivity without medical attention or sufficient food. During brutal interrogations, he was asked for information in return for medical care. McCain refused, giving only his name and date of birth. When it was discovered that he was the son of a top U.S. Admiral, he was given medical care. Hospital personnel never believed he would survive, as he had large wounds and weighed a mere 100 lbs. He also had completely white hair, a product of accelerated aging under harsh conditions. Nonetheless, his health improved and McCain was held as a Prisoner-Of-War (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton. As a prisoner, guards tortured him with frequent beatings and painful contortions, breaking his teeth and bones. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After months of beating sessions and intense interrogations, McCain was psychologically and physically weakened. At one point, he was forced to sign a statement which made claims exonerating his captors of inhumane treatment. The paper was intended for use as propaganda, but in all their subsequent attempts for promoting a &amp;quot;humane&amp;quot; image of the POW camp, McCain worked his hardest to thwart them. In 1971, four years from his capture, he was placed with 20 to 30 other Americans in better treatment. They were allowed to celebrate Christian holidays, including Christmas. McCain, who served as an impromptu chaplain, recalled that during their services, men cried; &amp;quot;They were tears of joy that for the first time... we were able to celebrate Christmas together.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of his father's high military status, McCain was offered early release, which he adamantly refused in honor of the &amp;quot;First in, first out&amp;quot; clause of the POW Code of Conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 14, 1973, after five and a half years of imprisonment, McCain was released alongside 106 other pilots under the Nixon administration. McCain received a heartfelt reception at the White House and was pronounced a war hero and eminent voice for the Vietnam War.  Awards from the military followed, including the Legion of Merit, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, a [[Purple Heart]], the [[Distinguished Flying Cross]], and the Vietnamese Legion of Honor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain's severe war injuries prevent him today from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return to the Navy (1973 - 1981)===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Vietnam War and his military service remained strong in McCain's memory. He immediately wanted to rejoin the Navy, and spent years preparing with excruciating physical therapy and a year of study in the Naval War College, where he attacked the liberal anti-war movement for weakening the morale of his fellow POWs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kirkpatrick, David D. &amp;quot;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/14/america/15pows.php In '74 thesis, the seeds of McCain's war views.]&amp;quot; The New York Times (June 15, 2008) p. A1.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With his extensive experience in the Navy's Aviation division, he was selected to reform the flying fleet as Commanding Officer. John McCain quickly transformed his crew's personnel, which had been underfunded in the post-Vietnam era. Carl Smith, who served under McCain, stated, &amp;quot;He immediately began making changes. He fired people, and he replaced people at the top who he thought were not being as effective as he wanted them to be. He wanted real leadership. He wanted the squadron to come to life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 57&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many in his staff were disappointed to have him leave, and praised his work in promoting efficiency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Command of a training squadron (1976-77), gave him some executive experience, which his supporters contrast to [[Barack Obama]]'s lack of any executive experience whatsoever. Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate [[Mike Huckabee]] said that this experience should be valued because just one choice he makes in that position could have disastrous consequences.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his assignment to the Senate as the Navy's liaison, 1977-81, McCain began to join the ranks of politicians. He transformed the position from a rather unimportant post into one of authority and respect{{fact}}, gaining allies in the Senate. The Senate liaison role provided a learning experience in national security policy and foreign affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political career==&lt;br /&gt;
===Congressional (1982 - 1986)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to entering public service, McCain worked in [[Phoenix]] for his father-in-law's company, Hensley &amp;amp; Co, which was an Anheuser-Busch beer wholesaler and distributor. With nagging injuries and limited physical mobility, McCain realized he would never become a four-star general like his forefathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography (1936-)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some biographers argue that he shifted into politics so that he could achieve the equivalent in politics, leading to his Senatorial career. After gaining support from local business leaders, he ran for a congressional seat for Arizona's 1st congressional district as a Republican in 1982. His [[liberal]] opponents labeled him as a &amp;quot;carpetbagger&amp;quot;. McCain responded to a voter making the charge of &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot; saying,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With the endorsements of local newspapers, McCain easily won the election. In 1983, he became President of the Republican freshman class of representatives. At the time, he largely supported Reagan's hard stance against the [[Soviet Union]], his tax cuts and matters on Indian Affairs. He did, however, break with the President on the decision to place a U.S. military presence in Lebanon, saying {{cquote|''I do not foresee obtainable objectives in Lebanon; I believe the longer we stay, the more difficult it will be to leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 100&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} During his four years in [[Congress]], McCain and his wife Cindy had three children.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senatorial (1986 - Present)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Reagan mccain.jpg|left|thumb|300px|3/3/1987 President Reagan and Nancy Reagan greet John McCain in the Blue Room during a dinner for newly elected members of the 100th Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Republican and [[conservative]] icon [[Barry Goldwater]] retired from the United States Senate in Arizona in 1986, Congressman McCain announced his candidacy for the seat. He easily won the election, defeating his Democratic opponent Richard Kimball by 20 percentage points. When entering the Senate, he became a member of the powerful Armed Services Committee and he also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. During the 1988 Presidential Election, McCain was named chairman of Veterans for Bush. In 1991, Senator McCain became part of the &amp;quot;Keating Five&amp;quot; scandal, where McCain and four other Senators (all Democrats) were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received approximately $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined that McCain was not involved in any wrongdoing, and McCain, along with the four other Senators, was not charged with any crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; Image in the Senate====&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has gained a reputation as a &amp;quot;maverick&amp;quot; for his sponsorship of many bills and leadership on almost every issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic [[Wisconsin]] Senator [[Russ Feingold]] on campaign finance reform. The McCain-Feingold bill banned &amp;quot;soft money&amp;quot;. It passed and was signed into law on November 6th, 2002, by President Bush. In the 1990's, McCain gained attention for his strong opposition to pork barrel spending. He championed the 1996 Line Item Veto Act, which gave the President the power to veto individual spending items. However, in 1998, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled the act unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;
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Voteview.com rated McCain as the second most conservative Senator in the 109th Congress (Jan. 2005 - Jan. 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://voteview.com/SEN109.HTM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time in 2007, according to Congressional Quarterly's &amp;quot;Presidential Support Scores&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/512/ Politifact fact checks McCain's voting support&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Issues include making the Bush tax cuts permanent (even though he originally opposed and voted against them), energy independence, winning the war in Iraq, reforming Social Security, and continuing and expanding Bush's supply-side economic policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, McCain asked for $0 in earmarks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database 2008 ''Pig Book''], Council for Citizens Against Government Waste&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 100% in 2007 (88% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain launched his first campaign for President in 2000, when he challenged then-[[Texas]] Governor [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican nomination. McCain's campaign was surprisingly strong. By ignoring the [[Iowa Caucus]], he was able to win the [[New Hampshire]] Primary by nineteen percentage points. He then won the [[Michigan]] Primary. However, he went on to lose [[South Carolina]] and 9 out of the 13 [[Super Tuesday]] states. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following McCain's loss in the 2000 Presidential primary and reports of dirty tricks in [[South Carolina]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/21/the_anatomy_of_a_smear_campaign/ The anatomy of a smear campaign,  March 21, 2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2007/12/30/top-romney-advisor-tied-to-anonymous-attacks-of-previous-presidential-primary/ Top Romney advisor tied to anonymous attacks of previous presidential primary, December 30, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, McCain began to disagree with President Bush on many issues, such as tax cuts, climate change, and gun legislation. After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]], McCain wrote legislation that created the 9/11 Commission, while he and Democratic Senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security. In May 2005, McCain led the so-called &amp;quot;[[Gang of 14]]&amp;quot; in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;. McCain also co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform (see below under political record for details).   In addition to bipartisan work in the Senate, it was during this period that McCain was courted by the Senate Democrats, and considered switching parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2008 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:McCain_nomination.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain accepting his party's presidential nomination, 09/04/08]] McCain announced his run for President in the highly volatile 2008 Republican primary early in 2007 at New Hampshire. Throughout the early months, the debates represented a splintered Party among the strong Christian constituency (Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee), anti-immigration activists (Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo), and the blockbuster fundraising by Mitt Romney and Giuliani, who appeared to be media favorites upon entry. Mitt Romney raised $23 million in the first three months of 2007, for instance, three times that of Sen. McCain. In addition, McCain's refusal to sign pacts with important donors and his distaste for political fundraising&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;often left him at odds with the other candidates, namely Rudy Giuliani, who amassed over $10 million in March 2007 alone.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;amp;sid=aZ7SuEo0wuMM&amp;amp;refer=home&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain failed to win strong support because of his maverick image, especially with difficult relationships with key Christian leaders. Social conservatives flocked to Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee with strong disfavor for McCain because of his mixed statements on abortion and religious initiatives. Many evangelicals remained reluctant to support McCain because of longstanding offense he had raised during his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush; news had been raised that many influential Christian organizations would schism from the GOP if they did not reconcile relationships with the Republican Party nominee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luo, Michael. &amp;quot;Evangelicals see Dilemma in GOP Field.&amp;quot; July 8, 2007. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain also suffered from his strong support for the Iraq war, which had erupted in sharp violence during early 2007, and was attacked for his position on immigration reform, a hotly-debated issue among conservatives. A damaging false story by the New York Times, which claimed McCain had an affair with a lobbyist, hurt his stature. &lt;br /&gt;
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When news had spread that McCain's campaign bankrupted and &amp;quot;imploded&amp;quot; in the summer of 2007, the Republican nomination began a period of quick shifting; other candidates began to soar in the polls, detracting McCain's support. Rudy Giuliani, who collected a strong following based on his leadership as &amp;quot;America's Mayor&amp;quot;, began to court evangelical Christians who felt uneasy about McCain, gaining the endorsement of televangelist Pat Robertson. However, as his less-than-flattering personal life and liberal positions on social issues became apparent, he quickly lost momentum to Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Fred Thompson, who entered late in the race, quickly withdrew because of lackadaisical popularity and poor fund-raising efforts. Huckabee remained popular in the Southern United States, but failed to win major contests among independents and Democrat voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Romney had the edge in early races, but couldn't deliver a knockout blow.  McCain's poll numbers slowly increased and benefited as the field narrowed.  After McCain defeated top contender Mitt Romney by a large margin on Super Tuesday in delegate-rich states like New York, California, and Arizona,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Neuman and Howard Berkes. &amp;quot;Mitt Romney Drops Out of GOP Presidential Race.&amp;quot; Feb. 7, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18772382&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Mitt Romney withdrew with some protest, leaving McCain the clear front-runner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumiller, Elisabeth, Kirkpatrick, David. &amp;quot;Romney Is Out; McCain Emerges as G.O.P. Choice.&amp;quot; Feb. 8, 2008. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although McCain's proportion of the vote was not much higher than Romney's, he won most of the 'winner take all' states giving him a much higher proportion of the delegate count.  Without Romney's well-financed opposition, McCain easily clinched the necessary delegate lead of 1,191 in March after a spirited yet short-lived fight from Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NPR.org. &amp;quot;Election 2008: Huckabee, Romney Stay in Race for GOP Nomination.&amp;quot; Feb. 6, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18739137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain became the official Republican nominee on September 3 at the Republican National Convention. His running mate is Governor [[Sarah Palin]] of [[Alaska]] and his [[Democrat]] opponent is Senator [[Barack Obama]] of [[Illinois]]. Election day will be on November 4, 2008.  After trailing Obama in the national polls, McCain suddenly took the lead after the two conventions, baffling the Democrats who had built their own campaign entirely on attacking President Bush, whom McCain ignored.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The latest poll results are summarized at [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html Real Clear Politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political Views==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Domestic Issues'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain discusses his opinions with Tim Russert on &amp;quot;Meet the Press&amp;quot;, 2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Balanced Budget===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has emphasized reducing government spending over tax cuts. He is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of pork barrel spending and has pledged to veto any bill with pork as President. Congressional experience has enabled John McCain to identify items that are unnecessary. McCain is fiscally responsible with the taxpayers' money and created a simple method to detect spending abuses. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9] , http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9, U.S. Senate Pork Barrel Spending&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is a staunch advocate of freedom in the economy. McCain has spent his career fighting for deregulation and the prosperity of a free market. In 1999, McCain voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00105&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill promoted more freedom for banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00192&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2005 McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act which would allow the office of Federal Housing Enterprise oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over Federal Home Associations. McCain said the following on May 26th, 2006: &lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that [[Fannie Mae]] and [[Freddie Mac]] pose to'' ''the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.&amp;quot;'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://beltwaysnark.com/2008/09/16/john-mccain-supported-a-proposal-for-an-agency-to-oversee-fannie-and-freddiein-2005/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Education]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports school vouchers and charter schools. His voting record shows support for reducing the federal government's role in education. He voted for school vouchers for Washington, D.C., education savings accounts, and against $5 billion for grants to local educational agencies. McCain sponsored the Education A-Plus bill in 1997 and again in 1999, which allowed parents to open tax-free saving accounts for their children's school supplies. McCain also co-sponsored the Child Nutrition Act, which would provide federal funding for at-risk children. He has publicly stated he supports [[intelligent design]] teaching in schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069 &amp;quot;On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools...McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes &amp;quot;all points of view&amp;quot; should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health Care===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record and stated positions on health care are based on true conservative principles. He is against socialized health care and health coverage mandates. McCain supports tax credits for personal health savings accounts and enhancing competition in the health care industry to improve quality and lower costs. He also supports allowing citizens to purchase out-of-state health insurance. In an October 2007 statement, McCain said: &amp;quot;In health care, we believe in enhancing the freedom of individuals to receive necessary and desired care. We do not believe in coercion and the use of state power to mandate care, coverage or costs.&amp;quot; McCain is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/healthcare.htm Pro Healthcare]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energy===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has stated &amp;quot;ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/4dbd2cc7-890e-47f1-882f-b8fc4cfecc78.htm], McCain Economic Plan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “America’s most vital interests call us to the mission of energy security, and so does our sense of honor. And the straightest, swiftest path to energy security is to produce more, use less, and find new sources of power — so that no commodity can determine our security, and no crisis can undermine our economy,” McCain said in Houston, TX, June 16, 2008. He proposes to remove federal obstacles to offshore drilling. Among his major initiatives is the removal of the 27-year old federal moratorium on states’ abilities to explore and drill for oil and natural gas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/17/mccain-slaps-obama-on-energy-calls-for-more-drilling/], McCain slaps Obama on energy, June 17th, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, he wants the states to receive incentives and royalties to drill. The current ban on offshore drilling covers an estimated 80 percent of U.S. coastal waters.&amp;quot;We've seen the impact of it in the form of food prices, in the form of gasoline, in the form of threats of inflation and indeed indications of inflation, and we must embark on a national mission to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain] , http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain , AP McCain urges end to ban on offshore drilling , June 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He indicated, though, that the end of the ban on offshore drilling would have mostly psychological effects in the short term.  At a town hall meeting, McCain stated, &amp;quot;I don't see an immediate relief, but I do see that exploitation of existing reserves that may exist -- and in view of many experts that do exist off our coasts -- is also a way that we need to provide relief. Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
He would support incentives for building new nuclear power plants. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/24/1163504.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain wants more nuclear reactors to increase America's energy independence. He is calling for the construction of 45 new reactors by 2030. Also, McCain wants to increase federal funds for clean coal technology by 2 billion dollars to reduce dependence on foreign oil. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1] , http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1 , AP McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors, June 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports increasing ethanol imports and more production of hybrid vehicles. He is co-sponsor of a Senate cap-and-trade bill designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions. He has consistently voted for preserving the budget for ANWR but against drilling for [[oil]] in the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]] (ANWR), because of environmental concerns.  Conservationists differ from conservatives that 2000 acres for oil drilling is not enough to impact [[polar bears]] in the region.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Environment]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's position on global warming issues has put him at odds with conservatives. His environmental proposals are mostly sound modern thinking by someone that understands the enormity of the problem.  McCain says that we can go green as a nation without bankrupting America. Per his website, Senator McCain &amp;quot;wants to leave a better future for our children.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
On January 2007, McCain said, &amp;quot;we continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing this environmental problem. The science tells us that urgent and significant action is needed.&amp;quot; On October 30, 2003, he co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act (S.139), which was defeated. McCain is a member of, and was endorsed by, the Republicans for Environmental Protection organization. His conservative stances include voting to confirm Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior and he is in favor of renewable energy such as solar, hydro, and wind. &amp;quot;Wind power is one of many alternative energy sources that are changing our economy for the better, and one day they will change our economy forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Immigration]]===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain says that he will secure the borders first and many immigration issue are still needed but will have to come later. In 2007, McCain worked to provide border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants. Conservatives wanted nothing to do with the proposal and in June 2007, Congress' efforts collapsed. McCain said of the outcome,&amp;quot;I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm] , http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm, AP McCain emphasizes border security, November 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;..I support the same solution. But we've got to secure the borders first&amp;quot; says McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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On Jan. 5, regarding the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Senator McCain announced that anyone who says he supported amnesty is &amp;quot;a liar, is lying.&amp;quot; The senator stated &amp;quot;I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and I never have supported [[Social Security]] benefits for people who are in this country illegally. Any assertion to the contrary is absolutely false.&amp;quot; During the comprehensive immigration reform debate, Senator McCain voted to table an amendment that would have prevented illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security who &amp;quot;are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00130&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Senator McCain stated in a May 29, 2003 interview, &amp;quot;Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.&amp;quot; Arguing amnesty is not a free pass or a reward for law breaking, McCain stated, &amp;quot;Well, because amnesty, according to the dictionary, is forgiveness. The proposal that we had- would require fines, would require back in the line, would require deportation for some. It would require others to go back to the country of their origin&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm] , Ontheissues.com, John McCain on Immigration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the [[Republican]] debate at the Reagan Library, McCain stated he supports the deportation of 2 million illegals who have committed crimes in the USA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversely, in a June 2008 meeting with Hispanic leaders in Chicago, McCain indicated he would push legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.  According to one attendee, Rosanna Pulido, head of the Illinois [[Minuteman Project]], &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics...&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/mccain-discusses-immigrat_n_108297.html McCain Discusses Immigration With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-06-19-4020801806_x.htm McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Pulido further stated, &amp;quot;He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another, I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Due to his support, members of the Minuteman Project, participating in the Minuteman Project Caravan, traveled to Washington, D.C. to register their disapproval.  They made an entry into McCain's Guest Log Book asking him to uphold the Constitution and enforce the law.  After making the entry, the group was forced to leave by a senior staffer for Senator McCain or be reported to the police. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643181/posts Minuteman Project Thrown Out of McCain's Office&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator McCain's position on illegal immigration has arguably resulted in the most criticisms from conservatives. On May 12, 2005, McCain joined Senator [[Ted Kennedy]] (D-[[Massachusetts]]) as co-sponsor of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. The bill would legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million [[illegal alien]]s in the United States and have them immediately start collecting social security and other government benefits. The bill never came for a vote on the Senate floor. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 are two additional compromises based on the original McCain-Kennedy bill. McCain has consistently voted for visas for skilled workers. McCain voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and has said border security should be a bigger priority then the illegal aliens who are currently here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Global Trade===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has actively supported reducing barriers to trade and has shown leadership in the [[Senate]] on Free Trade Agreements (FTA). Senator McCain supports both pending FTAs for Columbia and [[South Korea]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/p/McCain_Trade.htm], John McCain and Trade&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He voted for and defends the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is a strong supporter of private Social Security accounts. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Tax Reform===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2001, McCain gained attention as one of only two Republicans who voted against President Bush's tax cuts. He opposed accelerating the cuts in 2003, saying, &amp;quot;I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit.&amp;quot; He has now changed his stance, by voting to make the tax cuts permanent, and says he would do the same as President. In 2002, Senator McCain was one of only two Republicans to twice vote against the permanent repeal of the Death Tax. He has also refused to sign a pledge put forth by Americans for Tax Freedom not to impose any new taxes or increase existing taxes. However, many of McCain's votes has shown support for lower taxes, such as eliminating the marriage penalty, a 1997 vote to cut capital gains taxes and he introduced measures that would require a sixty-vote majority to pass a tax increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain urges the Senate to pass FISA. “For months, House Democrats, the [[ACLU]], and the trial lawyers have held up legislation to modernize our nation’s terrorist surveillance laws.  Today, the House passed a compromise bill to end this impasse.  While I would have preferred to see the Senate bill enacted, which I voted for earlier this year, I am pleased Congressional leaders and the Administration were able to reach an agreement to reform our current surveillance law and not let FISA expire in August.  I hope [[Senate]] Democrats will allow this matter to quickly be considered by the Senate and sent to the President for his signature.  I will support this measure and hope that politics will be put aside in favor of this vital national security matter.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=a7f9dc6c-da0e-459d-dd6c-91e20a46e1e5] , McCAIN URGES SENATE PASSAGE OF FISA &lt;br /&gt;
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McCain has voted in support of the [[Patriot Act|USA PATRIOT Act]] as well as National Missile Defense. However, he has joined [[liberal]]s in support of immediately closing [[Guantanamo Bay]], and moving all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. On October 3, 2005, he introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment which prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The bill was passed and signed by President [[George W. Bush]]. McCain has recently criticized the practice of [[waterboarding]], saying &amp;quot;they should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.&amp;quot; McCain voted against HR 2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which included provisions that would have prevented the CIA from water boarding prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] McCain was a strong advocate for military action in Afghanistan, saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is currently calling for 15,000 additional troops to address the situation in Afghanistan, similar to his victorious 2007 troop surge in Iraq.   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Iran]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has said that &amp;quot;We continue to be concerned about Iranian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons.&amp;quot; He tried to ban Iran from playing in the 2006 World Cup, citing Iranian President [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]'s [[Holocaust]] denials.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:610x.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, 03/17/08]] McCain voted with the majority [[Republican]] Party and 29 Democrats of the Senate in favor of the 2002 &amp;quot;Iraq War Resolution&amp;quot; authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war against Iraq and overthrow the [[Saddam Hussein]] regime. In 1998, McCain voted in favor of HR 4655 Iraq Liberation Act, signed by then President Clinton. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm], http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm, HR4655 Public Law: 105-338, October 31, 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; HR 4655 declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government. McCain went on to became a critic of the management of the war, arguing that there wasn't enough troop strength in the area. However, he never became a defeatist advocating surrender. McCain publicly stated that he had &amp;quot;no confidence&amp;quot; in then-Secretary of Defense [[Donald Rumsfeld]]. However, he refused to call for his resignation, saying that &amp;quot;the President picks his team, and the president has the right to stay with that team if he wants to.&amp;quot; McCain became one of the strongest leading advocates in the Senate for the 2007 troop surge, which increased the number of American troops by 20,500, deployed to provide security to [[Baghdad]] and Al Anbar Province. On February 4, he criticized a non-binding resolution opposing the troop buildup, calling it a reckless &amp;quot;vote of no confidence&amp;quot; in the U.S. Commanders and in the military. Additionally, he voted against all measures aimed at withdrawal of U.S. forces and voted against cutting off of war funds. McCain rightly believes that Congress should not micromanage the war and to give the military everything they ask for to successfully complete the mission. He has mentioned in a town hall forum that staying the course in Iraq for 'a hundred years' would not bother him if no American soldier's were losing their lives. This became an issue for Democratic political strategy. The DNC lead by chairman [[Howard Dean]] repeatedly tried to use false statements in justifying attacking McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html, Washington post Fact Checker, April 2, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What McCain said is very different from what the liberal media and the DNC were reporting. Asked in Derry, NH of the willingness to keep troops in Iraq for 50 years, he said &amp;quot;Make it 100&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Russia]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCain has strongly criticized Russian President [[Vladimir Putin]]. During a primary debate he sad, &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He bullies his neighbors and he wants to get a control of the energy supply of Western Europe. This is a dangerous person. And he has to understand that there's a cost to some of his actions.&amp;quot; In 2005 McCain and [[Connecticut]] senator [[Joe Lieberman]] drafted a resolution banning Russia from attending the Group of 8 (G8) international forum. McCain is also a strong supporter of ballistic national missile defenses.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Cuba]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain forcefully supports the [[Cuban embargo]] and believes it should be maintained until certain specific political freedoms are restored to the country. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&amp;amp;adxnnl=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;fta=y&amp;amp;adxnnlx=1222106556-zea3cQG12OakFI9P97dogQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Abortion]]===&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. John McCain has more than a twenty year anti-abortion record, first in the [[U.S. House of Representatives]], then in the U.S. Senate. McCain voted 11 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life issues in  the House. Senator McCain has voted 119 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life measures in the Senate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf], http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Voted against a [[Roe v. Wade]] resolution&lt;br /&gt;
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''John McCain's Pro-Life Words''&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.”Ann Althouse, Rudy &amp;amp; Mitt Hem &amp;amp; Haw on Abortion, N.Y. TIMES, Feb. 24, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. McCain’s campaign website  “believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned.” John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;My record is clear. And I think the important thing is you look at people’s voting record because sometimes rhetoric can be a little… misleading…. As you know I don’t support Roe v. Wade…. I thought it was a bad decision, and I think that the decision should be made in the states&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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“I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen.” McCain explained further that he “will try to find clones of Alito and Roberts” to fill future court vacancies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26539], Letter from Sen. John McCain to Pro‐Life Community Janary 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record in the Senate on abortion is pro-life. He voted for the 2003 Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. McCain has also voted against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00214 Voted Nay on an amendment to authorize grants to carry out programs to provide education on preventing teen pregnancies&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00075 Vote against allocation of $100m for prevention of unintended pregnancies &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nowpublic.com/quiet-campaign-against-contraception Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast that he has &amp;quot;consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs.&amp;quot; And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During his first Presidential campaign for the 2000 election, McCain said the following on [[Roe v. Wade]], &amp;quot;I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07021908.html McCain's &amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has since changed his position, saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
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A top official of the [[National Rifle Association]] said Republican John McCain has been a reliable ally of gun owners despite divisions with the powerful lobbying group on some issues. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press &amp;quot;...We're not foolish enough to ignore the vast areas of agreement in which John McCain has been a friend to gun owners.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Republican presidential nominee has voted against a ban on assault-type weapons with restrictions which were objected.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record on gun control is mixed. He co-sponsored the Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. This act would reduce the number of gun shows, require gun-owners to purchase trigger locks, and allow federal agents to arrest those who violate federal gun laws. However, McCain has frequently voted in support of the Second Amendment, such as voting against background checks at gun shows and voting in support of prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. In August of 1999, McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details. However, he still voted against the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and the efforts to renew it, as well as the Brady Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the speech on the Senate floor July 13th, 2004, McCain stated “Mr. President, most Americans believe, as I do, that the institution of marriage should be reserved for the union of a man and a woman.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.friendsofmccain.com/news/dspnews.cfm?id=143&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain revealed his decision based on super majority requirements and the current political realities within Congress. “By my count, there is not at this time even a small majority of senators who would vote for Senator Allard’s amendment, much less the 67 votes required by the Constitution. That won’t change, Mr. President, unless public opinion changes significantly. The [[Founders]], wisely, made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend, and, as a practical political matter, can’t be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that. Were it any easier I fear we could not make the claim for the Constitution’s enduring success that I have just made.&amp;quot; Further, he explained his approach to the amendment's ultimate success “If a constitution is to be amended, Mr. President, it should be a state constitution.&amp;quot; McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In May 2008, the California Supreme Court effectively created a ruling to grant same-sex partners equal rights to [[Marriage]] and to be recognized by the state. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator &amp;quot;doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Votes missed == &lt;br /&gt;
As of August 2007, McCain had missed more votes during the current session of Congress than any Senator other than [[South Dakota]] [[Democrat]] [[Tim Johnson]], who had suffered a brain hemorrhage that had kept him from Congress. He had missed over 48% of his votes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lawrence Journal-World, August 10, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is due to the fact that he is running a nationwide campaign for President.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cindy McCain.jpg|thumb|Cindy McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has been married twice.  His first marriage, to Carol Shepp, ended in [[divorce]] in 1980 after 15 years, of which he spent five in captivity. McCain admitted responsibility for the breakup.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/rules021299.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His second and current wife is Cindy Lou Hensley, to whom he has been married for 28 years.  His son John Sidney IV is a Midshipman at the [[United States Naval Academy]], Annapolis, and his son James is a non-commissioned officer in the [[United States Marine Corps]], who is serving in [[Iraq]] as part of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]].  Also, the McCains adopted a ten-week old baby girl in 1993, who they named Bridget, from [[Mother Teresa]]'s orphanage in [[Bangladesh]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3183 Bridget McCain Biography] Rightpundits.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/109022008.htm Bridget vs Sonia: McCain vs Rajiv Gandhi] News Analysis India&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Cindy McCain was in the country as part of the American Voluntary Medical Team &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-bio,1,2151434.story Bio of Cindy McCain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in response to the 1991 [[Bangladesh]] cyclone.&lt;br /&gt;
===McCain's family===&lt;br /&gt;
*Wife Cindy &lt;br /&gt;
*4 sons &lt;br /&gt;
**Douglas &lt;br /&gt;
**Andrew &lt;br /&gt;
**John (''&amp;quot;Jack&amp;quot;'') Sidney IV &lt;br /&gt;
**James &lt;br /&gt;
*3 daughters&lt;br /&gt;
**Sidney&lt;br /&gt;
**Meghan&lt;br /&gt;
**Bridget &lt;br /&gt;
*Parents &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Admiral]] John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from [[Indiana]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Roberta McCain|Roberta Wright McCain]] (from [[Oklahoma]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Faith of My Fathers'' (Random House; 1999) ISBN 0-3755-0191-6&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Odysseus in America'' (Scribner; 2002) ISBN 0-7432-1156-1&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Worth Fighting For: A Memoir'' (Diane Publ. Co; 2002) ISBN 0-7567-6759-8&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Medal of Honor'' (Artisan; 2003) ISBN 1-5796-5240-9&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life'' (Random House; 2004) ISBN 1-4000-6030-3&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember'' (Random House; 2005) ISBN 1-4000-6412-0&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them'' (Twelve; 2007) ISBN 0-4466-9911-X&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCain, John [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513224&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''My six years of hell: John McCain recalls life as a prisoner of war in Vietnam''] 8 February 2008 [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 9 February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Previous Breaking News/John McCain|Articles about '''John McCain''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[White House]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cindy McCain]], spouse of [[John McCain]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberta McCain]], mother of [[John McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsckD9trn4&amp;amp;eurl=http://evangelicalsformccain.org/meetthesenator.htm ''John McCain: Courageous Service''] - Streaming video documentary hosted at YouTube, including footage of McCain's time as a POW and the Forrestal incident. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://evangelicalsformccain.org/index.htm Evangelicals for McCain] - Christians, Families and Patriots for John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://studentsformccain08.blogspot.com/ Students for McCain 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/mccains-mom-pop.html McCain's Mom Pops Off]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rd.com/national-interest/people-and-politics/our-interview-with-sen-john-mccain/article.html Presidential Candidate John McCain on the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Casmier.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Senator John McCain, R-Arizona''']] '''John Sidney McCain III''' (born in the U.S. [[Panama Canal]] Zone, August 29, 1936) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m0003http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Button_enter.png Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, is the Republican nominee for President in 2008, prominent maverick politician and Vietnam War hero, and is the senior [[United States Senate|Senator]] of [[Arizona]]. He has been an influential leader in American politics since 1986, when he ran for office crusading against corruption, attacking pork barrel spending and working for campaign finance reform.  He was defeated by [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, and in 2008 kept his distance from the president, despite efforts of Democrats to paint the two as close allies.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a pilot for the United States Navy and former Prisoner-of-War (POW), he served in the military for 22 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=m000303 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain, a [[Baptist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296973,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has impressive credentials on issues of foreign policy and national security, which have propelled him in the forefront of national politics as both an outspoken voice for the United States military and as a Presidential contender for the Republican Party since 1993.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain is the [[Republican]] nominee for [[President of the United States of America|President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 Election]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080305/NATIONWORLD/803050441/0/LOCAL1901 ''McCain clinches GOP nomination; Huckabee bows out''] 5 March 2008 IndyStar.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255535,00.html John McCain Announces Plans for '08 Presidential Candidacy on 'Late Night With David Letterman'], Associated Press, 1 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's family has a long history of military service, including ancestors who fought as army soldiers in the Indian Wars, [[American Revolutionary War]], [[War of 1812]], for the Confederate States of America in the [[American Civil War]], and in [[World War I]]. Both his father and grandfather were high-ranking United States Navy admirals. In addition, McCain's two sons are currently serving in the U.S. Navy. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1951, the McCain family moved to Northern [[Virginia]] and he attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. McCain was on the wrestling team and went on to graduate in 1954. He later joined the U.S. Naval Academy and graduated in 1958.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Military career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain 1965.jpg|left|thumb|200px|McCain photographed in 1965]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain served heroically in the [[United States Navy]] from 1958 to 1981. He spent two and a half years as a naval aviator in training at the Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and the Naval Air Station Corpus Christi in Texas. By 1967, McCain was a veteran pilot aboard the ''USS Forrestal'' aircraft carrier off the coast of Vietnam. On 29 July 1967, while preparing to take off on a bombing run over North Vietnam, a missile accidentally fired from another plane, hitting the fuel tanks on McCain's aircraft and triggering explosions and a fire. McCain escaped from his plane by crawling onto the nose of the aircraft and diving on to the ship's deck which was ablaze from burning fuel. His attempt to rescue a fellow pilot whose flight suit was on fire was prevented when McCain was blown over by further explosions. When the fire was contained 24 hours later, 134 men had been killed and hundreds more injured. It was called the worst non-combat-related accident in U.S. naval history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=526451&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The coronation of the ultimate survivor, John McCain''] 5 March 2008 [[Daily Mail]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Prisoner-Of-War (1967 - 1973)===&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 26, 1967, as McCain was flying over Hanoi's Thermal Power Plant during his 23rd bombing mission, he was shot down and captured by the North Vietnamese. He had just released his bombs when [[A-4 Skyhawk|his plane]] was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. As he ejected, unconscious from the accident, he broke his knee and both arms and descended by parachute into a lake. When he floated ashore, Vietnamese locals spit and kicked him, nearly killing him. The police took him to Hoa Loa Prison where he was held in solitary captivity without medical attention or sufficient food. During brutal interrogations, he was asked for information in return for medical care. McCain refused, giving only his name and date of birth. When it was discovered that he was the son of a top U.S. Admiral, he was given medical care. Hospital personnel never believed he would survive, as he had large wounds and weighed a mere 100 lbs. He also had completely white hair, a product of accelerated aging under harsh conditions. Nonetheless, his health improved and McCain was held as a Prisoner-Of-War (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton. As a prisoner, guards tortured him with frequent beatings and painful contortions, breaking his teeth and bones. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After months of beating sessions and intense interrogations, McCain was psychologically and physically weakened. At one point, he was forced to sign a statement which made claims exonerating his captors of inhumane treatment. The paper was intended for use as propaganda, but in all their subsequent attempts for promoting a &amp;quot;humane&amp;quot; image of the POW camp, McCain worked his hardest to thwart them. In 1971, four years from his capture, he was placed with 20 to 30 other Americans in better treatment. They were allowed to celebrate Christian holidays, including Christmas. McCain, who served as an impromptu chaplain, recalled that during their services, men cried; &amp;quot;They were tears of joy that for the first time... we were able to celebrate Christmas together.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of his father's high military status, McCain was offered early release, which he adamantly refused in honor of the &amp;quot;First in, first out&amp;quot; clause of the POW Code of Conduct.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 14, 1973, after five and a half years of imprisonment, McCain was released alongside 106 other pilots under the Nixon administration. McCain received a heartfelt reception at the White House and was pronounced a war hero and eminent voice for the Vietnam War.  Awards from the military followed, including the Legion of Merit, a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, a [[Purple Heart]], the [[Distinguished Flying Cross]], and the Vietnamese Legion of Honor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. Published 2003 John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-47545-9&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain's severe war injuries prevent him today from combing his hair, typing on a keyboard, or tying his shoes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://graphics.boston.com/news/politics/campaign2000/news/McCain_character_loyal_to_a_fault+.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Return to the Navy (1973 - 1981)===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--He was recovering and studying until about  1975. 1982 was the beginning of his Congress years--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Vietnam War and his military service remained strong in McCain's memory. He immediately wanted to rejoin the Navy, and spent years preparing with excruciating physical therapy and a year of study in the Naval War College, where he attacked the liberal anti-war movement for weakening the morale of his fellow POWs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kirkpatrick, David D. &amp;quot;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/14/america/15pows.php In '74 thesis, the seeds of McCain's war views.]&amp;quot; The New York Times (June 15, 2008) p. A1.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With his extensive experience in the Navy's Aviation division, he was selected to reform the flying fleet as Commanding Officer. John McCain quickly transformed his crew's personnel, which had been underfunded in the post-Vietnam era. Carl Smith, who served under McCain, stated, &amp;quot;He immediately began making changes. He fired people, and he replaced people at the top who he thought were not being as effective as he wanted them to be. He wanted real leadership. He wanted the squadron to come to life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 57&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many in his staff were disappointed to have him leave, and praised his work in promoting efficiency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Command of a training squadron (1976-77), gave him some executive experience, which his supporters contrast to [[Barack Obama]]'s lack of any executive experience whatsoever. Former Arkansas Governor and Presidential candidate [[Mike Huckabee]] said that this experience should be valued because just one choice he makes in that position could have disastrous consequences.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his assignment to the Senate as the Navy's liaison, 1977-81, McCain began to join the ranks of politicians. He transformed the position from a rather unimportant post into one of authority and respect{{fact}}, gaining allies in the Senate. The Senate liaison role provided a learning experience in national security policy and foreign affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political career==&lt;br /&gt;
===Congressional (1982 - 1986)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Prior to entering public service, McCain worked in [[Phoenix]] for his father-in-law's company, Hensley &amp;amp; Co, which was an Anheuser-Busch beer wholesaler and distributor. With nagging injuries and limited physical mobility, McCain realized he would never become a four-star general like his forefathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography (1936-)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some biographers argue that he shifted into politics so that he could achieve the equivalent in politics, leading to his Senatorial career. After gaining support from local business leaders, he ran for a congressional seat for Arizona's 1st congressional district as a Republican in 1982. His [[liberal]] opponents labeled him as a &amp;quot;carpetbagger&amp;quot;. McCain responded to a voter making the charge of &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot; saying,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With the endorsements of local newspapers, McCain easily won the election. In 1983, he became President of the Republican freshman class of representatives. At the time, he largely supported Reagan's hard stance against the [[Soviet Union]], his tax cuts and matters on Indian Affairs. He did, however, break with the President on the decision to place a U.S. military presence in Lebanon, saying {{cquote|''I do not foresee obtainable objectives in Lebanon; I believe the longer we stay, the more difficult it will be to leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander, Paul. John McCain: Man of the People. pg. 100&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} During his four years in [[Congress]], McCain and his wife Cindy had three children.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senatorial (1986 - Present)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Reagan mccain.jpg|left|thumb|300px|3/3/1987 President Reagan and Nancy Reagan greet John McCain in the Blue Room during a dinner for newly elected members of the 100th Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
When Republican and [[conservative]] icon [[Barry Goldwater]] retired from the United States Senate in Arizona in 1986, Congressman McCain announced his candidacy for the seat. He easily won the election, defeating his Democratic opponent Richard Kimball by 20 percentage points. When entering the Senate, he became a member of the powerful Armed Services Committee and he also joined the Commerce Committee and the Indian Affairs Committee. During the 1988 Presidential Election, McCain was named chairman of Veterans for Bush. In 1991, Senator McCain became part of the &amp;quot;Keating Five&amp;quot; scandal, where McCain and four other Senators (all Democrats) were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board. Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received approximately $112,000 in political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined that McCain was not involved in any wrongdoing, and McCain, along with the four other Senators, was not charged with any crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&amp;quot;Maverick&amp;quot; Image in the Senate====&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has gained a reputation as a &amp;quot;maverick&amp;quot; for his sponsorship of many bills and leadership on almost every issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic [[Wisconsin]] Senator [[Russ Feingold]] on campaign finance reform. The McCain-Feingold bill banned &amp;quot;soft money&amp;quot;. It passed and was signed into law on November 6th, 2002, by President Bush. In the 1990's, McCain gained attention for his strong opposition to pork barrel spending. He championed the 1996 Line Item Veto Act, which gave the President the power to veto individual spending items. However, in 1998, the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] ruled the act unconstitutional.&lt;br /&gt;
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Voteview.com rated McCain as the second most conservative Senator in the 109th Congress (Jan. 2005 - Jan. 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://voteview.com/SEN109.HTM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain and the Bush administration agree on most issues. He voted with the Bush administration 95% of the time in 2007, according to Congressional Quarterly's &amp;quot;Presidential Support Scores&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/512/ Politifact fact checks McCain's voting support&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Issues include making the Bush tax cuts permanent (even though he originally opposed and voted against them), energy independence, winning the war in Iraq, reforming Social Security, and continuing and expanding Bush's supply-side economic policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, McCain asked for $0 in earmarks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2008_database 2008 ''Pig Book''], Council for Citizens Against Government Waste&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 100% in 2007 (88% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2000 Presidential Campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain launched his first campaign for President in 2000, when he challenged then-[[Texas]] Governor [[George W. Bush]] for the Republican nomination. McCain's campaign was surprisingly strong. By ignoring the [[Iowa Caucus]], he was able to win the [[New Hampshire]] Primary by nineteen percentage points. He then won the [[Michigan]] Primary. However, he went on to lose [[South Carolina]] and 9 out of the 13 [[Super Tuesday]] states. McCain withdrew from the race on March 9, 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Following McCain's loss in the 2000 Presidential primary and reports of dirty tricks in [[South Carolina]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/03/21/the_anatomy_of_a_smear_campaign/ The anatomy of a smear campaign,  March 21, 2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2007/12/30/top-romney-advisor-tied-to-anonymous-attacks-of-previous-presidential-primary/ Top Romney advisor tied to anonymous attacks of previous presidential primary, December 30, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, McCain began to disagree with President Bush on many issues, such as tax cuts, climate change, and gun legislation. After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]], McCain wrote legislation that created the 9/11 Commission, while he and Democratic Senator Fritz Hollings co-sponsored the Aviation and Transportation Security Act that federalized airport security. In May 2005, McCain led the so-called &amp;quot;[[Gang of 14]]&amp;quot; in the Senate, which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;. McCain also co-sponsored comprehensive immigration reform (see below under political record for details).   In addition to bipartisan work in the Senate, it was during this period that McCain was courted by the Senate Democrats, and considered switching parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democrats-say-mccain-nearly-abandoned-gop-2007-03-28.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:McCain_nomination.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain accepting his party's presidential nomination, 09/04/08]] McCain announced his run for President in the highly volatile 2008 Republican primary early in 2007 at New Hampshire. Throughout the early months, the debates represented a splintered Party among the strong Christian constituency (Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee), anti-immigration activists (Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo), and the blockbuster fundraising by Mitt Romney and Giuliani, who appeared to be media favorites upon entry. Mitt Romney raised $23 million in the first three months of 2007, for instance, three times that of Sen. McCain. In addition, McCain's refusal to sign pacts with important donors and his distaste for political fundraising&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;often left him at odds with the other candidates, namely Rudy Giuliani, who amassed over $10 million in March 2007 alone.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&amp;amp;sid=aZ7SuEo0wuMM&amp;amp;refer=home&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain failed to win strong support because of his maverick image, especially with difficult relationships with key Christian leaders. Social conservatives flocked to Sam Brownback and Mike Huckabee with strong disfavor for McCain because of his mixed statements on abortion and religious initiatives. Many evangelicals remained reluctant to support McCain because of longstanding offense he had raised during his 2000 campaign against George W. Bush; news had been raised that many influential Christian organizations would schism from the GOP if they did not reconcile relationships with the Republican Party nominee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luo, Michael. &amp;quot;Evangelicals see Dilemma in GOP Field.&amp;quot; July 8, 2007. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McCain also suffered from his strong support for the Iraq war, which had erupted in sharp violence during early 2007, and was attacked for his position on immigration reform, a hotly-debated issue among conservatives. A damaging false story by the New York Times, which claimed McCain had an affair with a lobbyist, hurt his stature. &lt;br /&gt;
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When news had spread that McCain's campaign bankrupted and &amp;quot;imploded&amp;quot; in the summer of 2007, the Republican nomination began a period of quick shifting; other candidates began to soar in the polls, detracting McCain's support. Rudy Giuliani, who collected a strong following based on his leadership as &amp;quot;America's Mayor&amp;quot;, began to court evangelical Christians who felt uneasy about McCain, gaining the endorsement of televangelist Pat Robertson. However, as his less-than-flattering personal life and liberal positions on social issues became apparent, he quickly lost momentum to Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cook, Charles. &amp;quot;The 2008 Presidential Primaries: What in America's Name Is Going On?&amp;quot; The Washington Quarterly Vol. 31 Issue 3 pp. 193-204.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Fred Thompson, who entered late in the race, quickly withdrew because of lackadaisical popularity and poor fund-raising efforts. Huckabee remained popular in the Southern United States, but failed to win major contests among independents and Democrat voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Romney had the edge in early races, but couldn't deliver a knockout blow.  McCain's poll numbers slowly increased and benefited as the field narrowed.  After McCain defeated top contender Mitt Romney by a large margin on Super Tuesday in delegate-rich states like New York, California, and Arizona,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Neuman and Howard Berkes. &amp;quot;Mitt Romney Drops Out of GOP Presidential Race.&amp;quot; Feb. 7, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18772382&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Mitt Romney withdrew with some protest, leaving McCain the clear front-runner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumiller, Elisabeth, Kirkpatrick, David. &amp;quot;Romney Is Out; McCain Emerges as G.O.P. Choice.&amp;quot; Feb. 8, 2008. New York Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although McCain's proportion of the vote was not much higher than Romney's, he won most of the 'winner take all' states giving him a much higher proportion of the delegate count.  Without Romney's well-financed opposition, McCain easily clinched the necessary delegate lead of 1,191 in March after a spirited yet short-lived fight from Mike Huckabee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NPR.org. &amp;quot;Election 2008: Huckabee, Romney Stay in Race for GOP Nomination.&amp;quot; Feb. 6, 2008. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18739137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain became the official Republican nominee on September 3 at the Republican National Convention. His running mate is Governor [[Sarah Palin]] of [[Alaska]] and his [[Democrat]] opponent is Senator [[Barack Obama]] of [[Illinois]]. Election day will be on November 4, 2008.  After trailing Obama in the national polls, McCain suddenly took the lead after the two conventions, baffling the Democrats who had built their own campaign entirely on attacking President Bush, whom McCain ignored.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The latest poll results are summarized at [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html Real Clear Politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political Views==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Domestic Issues'''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:McCain_on_Meet_the_Press.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain discusses his opinions with Tim Russert on &amp;quot;Meet the Press&amp;quot;, 2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Balanced Budget===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has emphasized reducing government spending over tax cuts. He is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of pork barrel spending and has pledged to veto any bill with pork as President. Congressional experience has enabled John McCain to identify items that are unnecessary. McCain is fiscally responsible with the taxpayers' money and created a simple method to detect spending abuses. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9] , http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Issues.View&amp;amp;Issue_id=d1a878d9-f16c-4570-b402-9d1bc3fe6ab9, U.S. Senate Pork Barrel Spending&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* An appropriation that is not properly authorized by the Senate and not requested by the Administration.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The transfer or disposal of federal property or items under terms that circumvent existing law.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Economy]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a staunch advocate of freedom in the economy. McCain has spent his career fighting for deregulation and the prosperity of a free market. In 1999, McCain voted in favor of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00105&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill promoted more freedom for banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies. In 2002 he voted for the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which passed the Senate without opposition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00192&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2005 McCain co-sponsored the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act which would allow the office of Federal Housing Enterprise oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over Federal Home Associations. McCain said the following on May 26th, 2006: &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Education]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports school vouchers and charter schools. His voting record shows support for reducing the federal government's role in education. He voted for school vouchers for Washington, D.C., education savings accounts, and against $5 billion for grants to local educational agencies. McCain sponsored the Education A-Plus bill in 1997 and again in 1999, which allowed parents to open tax-free saving accounts for their children's school supplies. McCain also co-sponsored the Child Nutrition Act, which would provide federal funding for at-risk children. He has publicly stated he supports [[intelligent design]] teaching in schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/politics/90069 &amp;quot;On Tuesday, though, he sided with the president on two issues that have made headlines recently: teaching intelligent design in schools...McCain told the Star that, like Bush, he believes &amp;quot;all points of view&amp;quot; should be available to students studying the origins of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health Care===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's record and stated positions on health care are based on true conservative principles. He is against socialized health care and health coverage mandates. McCain supports tax credits for personal health savings accounts and enhancing competition in the health care industry to improve quality and lower costs. He also supports allowing citizens to purchase out-of-state health insurance. In an October 2007 statement, McCain said: &amp;quot;In health care, we believe in enhancing the freedom of individuals to receive necessary and desired care. We do not believe in coercion and the use of state power to mandate care, coverage or costs.&amp;quot; McCain is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/healthcare.htm Pro Healthcare]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energy===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain has stated &amp;quot;ethanol subsidies, tariff barriers and sugar quotas drive up food prices and hurt Americans. However, we cannot take the wrong direction and cut off trade for American goods.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/4dbd2cc7-890e-47f1-882f-b8fc4cfecc78.htm], McCain Economic Plan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; “America’s most vital interests call us to the mission of energy security, and so does our sense of honor. And the straightest, swiftest path to energy security is to produce more, use less, and find new sources of power — so that no commodity can determine our security, and no crisis can undermine our economy,” McCain said in Houston, TX, June 16, 2008. He proposes to remove federal obstacles to offshore drilling. Among his major initiatives is the removal of the 27-year old federal moratorium on states’ abilities to explore and drill for oil and natural gas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/17/mccain-slaps-obama-on-energy-calls-for-more-drilling/], McCain slaps Obama on energy, June 17th, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, he wants the states to receive incentives and royalties to drill. The current ban on offshore drilling covers an estimated 80 percent of U.S. coastal waters.&amp;quot;We've seen the impact of it in the form of food prices, in the form of gasoline, in the form of threats of inflation and indeed indications of inflation, and we must embark on a national mission to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain] , http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080616/ap_on_el_pr/mccain , AP McCain urges end to ban on offshore drilling , June 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He indicated, though, that the end of the ban on offshore drilling would have mostly psychological effects in the short term.  At a town hall meeting, McCain stated, &amp;quot;I don't see an immediate relief, but I do see that exploitation of existing reserves that may exist -- and in view of many experts that do exist off our coasts -- is also a way that we need to provide relief. Even though it may take some years, the fact that we are exploiting those reserves would have psychological impact that I think is beneficial.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
He would support incentives for building new nuclear power plants. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/24/1163504.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain wants more nuclear reactors to increase America's energy independence. He is calling for the construction of 45 new reactors by 2030. Also, McCain wants to increase federal funds for clean coal technology by 2 billion dollars to reduce dependence on foreign oil. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1] , http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91CMT0O0&amp;amp;show_article=1 , AP McCain calls for building 45 new nuclear reactors, June 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCain supports increasing ethanol imports and more production of hybrid vehicles. He is co-sponsor of a Senate cap-and-trade bill designed to limit greenhouse gas emissions. He has consistently voted for preserving the budget for ANWR but against drilling for [[oil]] in the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]] (ANWR), because of environmental concerns.  Conservationists differ from conservatives that 2000 acres for oil drilling is not enough to impact [[polar bears]] in the region.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Environment]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain's position on global warming issues has put him at odds with conservatives. His environmental proposals are mostly sound modern thinking by someone that understands the enormity of the problem.  McCain says that we can go green as a nation without bankrupting America. Per his website, Senator McCain &amp;quot;wants to leave a better future for our children.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
On January 2007, McCain said, &amp;quot;we continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing this environmental problem. The science tells us that urgent and significant action is needed.&amp;quot; On October 30, 2003, he co-sponsored the Climate Stewardship Act (S.139), which was defeated. McCain is a member of, and was endorsed by, the Republicans for Environmental Protection organization. His conservative stances include voting to confirm Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior and he is in favor of renewable energy such as solar, hydro, and wind. &amp;quot;Wind power is one of many alternative energy sources that are changing our economy for the better, and one day they will change our economy forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Immigration]]===&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain says that he will secure the borders first and many immigration issue are still needed but will have to come later. In 2007, McCain worked to provide border security efforts with a temporary worker program and an eventual path to citizenship for many illegal immigrants. Conservatives wanted nothing to do with the proposal and in June 2007, Congress' efforts collapsed. McCain said of the outcome,&amp;quot;I say it is a lesson learned about what the American people's priorities are. And their priority is to secure the borders.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm] , http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-11-03-610628094_x.htm, AP McCain emphasizes border security, November 4, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;..I support the same solution. But we've got to secure the borders first&amp;quot; says McCain&lt;br /&gt;
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On Jan. 5, regarding the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007, Senator McCain announced that anyone who says he supported amnesty is &amp;quot;a liar, is lying.&amp;quot; The senator stated &amp;quot;I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and I never have supported [[Social Security]] benefits for people who are in this country illegally. Any assertion to the contrary is absolutely false.&amp;quot; During the comprehensive immigration reform debate, Senator McCain voted to table an amendment that would have prevented illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security who &amp;quot;are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00130&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Senator McCain stated in a May 29, 2003 interview, &amp;quot;Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.&amp;quot; Arguing amnesty is not a free pass or a reward for law breaking, McCain stated, &amp;quot;Well, because amnesty, according to the dictionary, is forgiveness. The proposal that we had- would require fines, would require back in the line, would require deportation for some. It would require others to go back to the country of their origin&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/John_McCain_Immigration.htm] , Ontheissues.com, John McCain on Immigration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the [[Republican]] debate at the Reagan Library, McCain stated he supports the deportation of 2 million illegals who have committed crimes in the USA.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conversely, in a June 2008 meeting with Hispanic leaders in Chicago, McCain indicated he would push legislation to overhaul federal immigration laws if elected.  According to one attendee, Rosanna Pulido, head of the Illinois [[Minuteman Project]], &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He's one John McCain in front of white Republicans. And he's a different John McCain in front of Hispanics...&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/20/mccain-discusses-immigrat_n_108297.html McCain Discusses Immigration With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-06-19-4020801806_x.htm McCain Meets With Hispanic Leaders&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Pulido further stated, &amp;quot;He was telling one group of people one thing and the Hispanics another, I'm a conservative and I think he's throwing conservatives under the bus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/title----mcca-1.html McCain Double-Talk on Immigration?&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Due to his support, members of the Minuteman Project, participating in the Minuteman Project Caravan, traveled to Washington, D.C. to register their disapproval.  They made an entry into McCain's Guest Log Book asking him to uphold the Constitution and enforce the law.  After making the entry, the group was forced to leave by a senior staffer for Senator McCain or be reported to the police. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643181/posts Minuteman Project Thrown Out of McCain's Office&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator McCain's position on illegal immigration has arguably resulted in the most criticisms from conservatives. On May 12, 2005, McCain joined Senator [[Ted Kennedy]] (D-[[Massachusetts]]) as co-sponsor of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act. The bill would legalize and eventually grant citizenship to the estimated 12–20 million [[illegal alien]]s in the United States and have them immediately start collecting social security and other government benefits. The bill never came for a vote on the Senate floor. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 are two additional compromises based on the original McCain-Kennedy bill. McCain has consistently voted for visas for skilled workers. McCain voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and has said border security should be a bigger priority then the illegal aliens who are currently here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Global Trade===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has actively supported reducing barriers to trade and has shown leadership in the [[Senate]] on Free Trade Agreements (FTA). Senator McCain supports both pending FTAs for Columbia and [[South Korea]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://useconomy.about.com/od/candidatesandtheeconomy/p/McCain_Trade.htm], John McCain and Trade&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He voted for and defends the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Social Security]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain is a strong supporter of private Social Security accounts. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Tax Reform===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2001, McCain gained attention as one of only two Republicans who voted against President Bush's tax cuts. He opposed accelerating the cuts in 2003, saying, &amp;quot;I voted against the tax cuts because of the disproportional amount that went to the wealthiest Americans. I would clearly support not extending those tax cuts in order to help address the deficit.&amp;quot; He has now changed his stance, by voting to make the tax cuts permanent, and says he would do the same as President. In 2002, Senator McCain was one of only two Republicans to twice vote against the permanent repeal of the Death Tax. He has also refused to sign a pledge put forth by Americans for Tax Freedom not to impose any new taxes or increase existing taxes. However, many of McCain's votes has shown support for lower taxes, such as eliminating the marriage penalty, a 1997 vote to cut capital gains taxes and he introduced measures that would require a sixty-vote majority to pass a tax increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Foreign Policy==&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain urges the Senate to pass FISA. “For months, House Democrats, the [[ACLU]], and the trial lawyers have held up legislation to modernize our nation’s terrorist surveillance laws.  Today, the House passed a compromise bill to end this impasse.  While I would have preferred to see the Senate bill enacted, which I voted for earlier this year, I am pleased Congressional leaders and the Administration were able to reach an agreement to reform our current surveillance law and not let FISA expire in August.  I hope [[Senate]] Democrats will allow this matter to quickly be considered by the Senate and sent to the President for his signature.  I will support this measure and hope that politics will be put aside in favor of this vital national security matter.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.PressReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=a7f9dc6c-da0e-459d-dd6c-91e20a46e1e5] , McCAIN URGES SENATE PASSAGE OF FISA &lt;br /&gt;
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McCain has voted in support of the [[Patriot Act|USA PATRIOT Act]] as well as National Missile Defense. However, he has joined [[liberal]]s in support of immediately closing [[Guantanamo Bay]], and moving all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth. On October 3, 2005, he introduced the McCain Detainee Amendment which prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. The bill was passed and signed by President [[George W. Bush]]. McCain has recently criticized the practice of [[waterboarding]], saying &amp;quot;they should know what it is. It is not a complicated procedure. It is torture.&amp;quot; McCain voted against HR 2082, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which included provisions that would have prevented the CIA from water boarding prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Afghanistan]]===&lt;br /&gt;
After the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] McCain was a strong advocate for military action in Afghanistan, saying:&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain is currently calling for 15,000 additional troops to address the situation in Afghanistan, similar to his victorious 2007 troop surge in Iraq.   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Iran]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has said that &amp;quot;We continue to be concerned about Iranian influence and assistance to Hezbollah as well as Iranian pursuit of nuclear weapons.&amp;quot; He tried to ban Iran from playing in the 2006 World Cup, citing Iranian President [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]'s [[Holocaust]] denials.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Iraq]]===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:610x.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Senator John McCain with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, 03/17/08]] McCain voted with the majority [[Republican]] Party and 29 Democrats of the Senate in favor of the 2002 &amp;quot;Iraq War Resolution&amp;quot; authorizing President George W. Bush to go to war against Iraq and overthrow the [[Saddam Hussein]] regime. In 1998, McCain voted in favor of HR 4655 Iraq Liberation Act, signed by then President Clinton. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm], http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm, HR4655 Public Law: 105-338, October 31, 1998&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; HR 4655 declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government. McCain went on to became a critic of the management of the war, arguing that there wasn't enough troop strength in the area. However, he never became a defeatist advocating surrender. McCain publicly stated that he had &amp;quot;no confidence&amp;quot; in then-Secretary of Defense [[Donald Rumsfeld]]. However, he refused to call for his resignation, saying that &amp;quot;the President picks his team, and the president has the right to stay with that team if he wants to.&amp;quot; McCain became one of the strongest leading advocates in the Senate for the 2007 troop surge, which increased the number of American troops by 20,500, deployed to provide security to [[Baghdad]] and Al Anbar Province. On February 4, he criticized a non-binding resolution opposing the troop buildup, calling it a reckless &amp;quot;vote of no confidence&amp;quot; in the U.S. Commanders and in the military. Additionally, he voted against all measures aimed at withdrawal of U.S. forces and voted against cutting off of war funds. McCain rightly believes that Congress should not micromanage the war and to give the military everything they ask for to successfully complete the mission. He has mentioned in a town hall forum that staying the course in Iraq for 'a hundred years' would not bother him if no American soldier's were losing their lives. This became an issue for Democratic political strategy. The DNC lead by chairman [[Howard Dean]] repeatedly tried to use false statements in justifying attacking McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html]http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html, Washington post Fact Checker, April 2, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What McCain said is very different from what the liberal media and the DNC were reporting. Asked in Derry, NH of the willingness to keep troops in Iraq for 50 years, he said &amp;quot;Make it 100&amp;quot; and   &lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Russia]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCain has strongly criticized Russian President [[Vladimir Putin]]. During a primary debate he sad, &amp;quot;&amp;quot;He bullies his neighbors and he wants to get a control of the energy supply of Western Europe. This is a dangerous person. And he has to understand that there's a cost to some of his actions.&amp;quot; In 2005 McCain and [[Connecticut]] senator [[Joe Lieberman]] drafted a resolution banning Russia from attending the Group of 8 (G8) international forum. McCain is also a strong supporter of ballistic national missile defenses.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Cuba]]===&lt;br /&gt;
McCain forcefully supports the [[Cuban embargo]] and believes it should be maintained until certain specific political freedoms are restored to the country. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?_r=1&amp;amp;adxnnl=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;fta=y&amp;amp;adxnnlx=1222106556-zea3cQG12OakFI9P97dogQ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Social Issues==&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Abortion]]===&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. John McCain has more than a twenty year anti-abortion record, first in the [[U.S. House of Representatives]], then in the U.S. Senate. McCain voted 11 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life issues in  the House. Senator McCain has voted 119 times on anti-abortion and other pro-life measures in the Senate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf], http://www.naral.org/assets/files/mccain_fact_sheet.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Voted against a [[Roe v. Wade]] resolution&lt;br /&gt;
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''John McCain's Pro-Life Words''&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not support Roe v. Wade. It should be overturned.”Ann Althouse, Rudy &amp;amp; Mitt Hem &amp;amp; Haw on Abortion, N.Y. TIMES, Feb. 24, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. McCain’s campaign website  “believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned.” John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;My record is clear. And I think the important thing is you look at people’s voting record because sometimes rhetoric can be a little… misleading…. As you know I don’t support Roe v. Wade…. I thought it was a bad decision, and I think that the decision should be made in the states&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
(John McCain for President 2008, On the Issues: Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life)&lt;br /&gt;
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“I’m proud that we have Justice Alito and Roberts on the United States Supreme Court. I’m very proud to have played a very small role in making that happen.” McCain explained further that he “will try to find clones of Alito and Roberts” to fill future court vacancies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26539], Letter from Sen. John McCain to Pro‐Life Community Janary 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record in the Senate on abortion is pro-life. He voted for the 2003 Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. McCain has also voted against government funding of birth control and sex education.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00214 Voted Nay on an amendment to authorize grants to carry out programs to provide education on preventing teen pregnancies&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&amp;amp;session=1&amp;amp;vote=00075 Vote against allocation of $100m for prevention of unintended pregnancies &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nowpublic.com/quiet-campaign-against-contraception Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's campaign officials boast that he has &amp;quot;consistently voted against taxpayer-funded contraception programs.&amp;quot; And Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During his first Presidential campaign for the 2000 election, McCain said the following on [[Roe v. Wade]], &amp;quot;I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary. But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/feb/07021908.html McCain's &amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has since changed his position, saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Gun Control]]===&lt;br /&gt;
A top official of the [[National Rifle Association]] said Republican John McCain has been a reliable ally of gun owners despite divisions with the powerful lobbying group on some issues. NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre told The Associated Press &amp;quot;...We're not foolish enough to ignore the vast areas of agreement in which John McCain has been a friend to gun owners.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Republican presidential nominee has voted against a ban on assault-type weapons with restrictions which were objected.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCain's record on gun control is mixed. He co-sponsored the Gun Show Loophole Closing and Gun Law Enforcement Act of 2001. This act would reduce the number of gun shows, require gun-owners to purchase trigger locks, and allow federal agents to arrest those who violate federal gun laws. However, McCain has frequently voted in support of the Second Amendment, such as voting against background checks at gun shows and voting in support of prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. In August of 1999, McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details. However, he still voted against the Federal Assault Weapons Ban and the efforts to renew it, as well as the Brady Bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Same-sex marriage]]===&lt;br /&gt;
In the speech on the Senate floor July 13th, 2004, McCain stated “Mr. President, most Americans believe, as I do, that the institution of marriage should be reserved for the union of a man and a woman.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.friendsofmccain.com/news/dspnews.cfm?id=143&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John McCain revealed his decision based on super majority requirements and the current political realities within Congress. “By my count, there is not at this time even a small majority of senators who would vote for Senator Allard’s amendment, much less the 67 votes required by the Constitution. That won’t change, Mr. President, unless public opinion changes significantly. The [[Founders]], wisely, made certain that the Constitution is difficult to amend, and, as a practical political matter, can’t be done without overwhelming public approval. And thank God for that. Were it any easier I fear we could not make the claim for the Constitution’s enduring success that I have just made.&amp;quot; Further, he explained his approach to the amendment's ultimate success “If a constitution is to be amended, Mr. President, it should be a state constitution.&amp;quot; McCain voted against the Federal Marriage Amendment. In May 2008, the California Supreme Court effectively created a ruling to grant same-sex partners equal rights to [[Marriage]] and to be recognized by the state. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator &amp;quot;doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Votes missed == &lt;br /&gt;
As of August 2007, McCain had missed more votes during the current session of Congress than any Senator other than [[South Dakota]] [[Democrat]] [[Tim Johnson]], who had suffered a brain hemorrhage that had kept him from Congress. He had missed over 48% of his votes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lawrence Journal-World, August 10, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is due to the fact that he is running a nationwide campaign for President.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cindy McCain.jpg|thumb|Cindy McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
McCain has been married twice.  His first marriage, to Carol Shepp, ended in [[divorce]] in 1980 after 15 years, of which he spent five in captivity. McCain admitted responsibility for the breakup.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/rules021299.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His second and current wife is Cindy Lou Hensley, to whom he has been married for 28 years.  His son John Sidney IV is a Midshipman at the [[United States Naval Academy]], Annapolis, and his son James is a non-commissioned officer in the [[United States Marine Corps]], who is serving in [[Iraq]] as part of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]].  Also, the McCains adopted a ten-week old baby girl in 1993, who they named Bridget, from [[Mother Teresa]]'s orphanage in [[Bangladesh]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=3183 Bridget McCain Biography] Rightpundits.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsanalysisindia.com/109022008.htm Bridget vs Sonia: McCain vs Rajiv Gandhi] News Analysis India&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Cindy McCain was in the country as part of the American Voluntary Medical Team &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-041408-cindy-mccain-bio,1,2151434.story Bio of Cindy McCain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in response to the 1991 [[Bangladesh]] cyclone.&lt;br /&gt;
===McCain's family===&lt;br /&gt;
*Wife Cindy &lt;br /&gt;
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**Douglas &lt;br /&gt;
**Andrew &lt;br /&gt;
**John (''&amp;quot;Jack&amp;quot;'') Sidney IV &lt;br /&gt;
**James &lt;br /&gt;
*3 daughters&lt;br /&gt;
**Sidney&lt;br /&gt;
**Meghan&lt;br /&gt;
**Bridget &lt;br /&gt;
*Parents &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Admiral]] John Sydney McCain, Jr. (from [[Indiana]]) &lt;br /&gt;
**[[Roberta McCain|Roberta Wright McCain]] (from [[Oklahoma]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Faith of My Fathers'' (Random House; 1999) ISBN 0-3755-0191-6&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Odysseus in America'' (Scribner; 2002) ISBN 0-7432-1156-1&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Worth Fighting For: A Memoir'' (Diane Publ. Co; 2002) ISBN 0-7567-6759-8&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Medal of Honor'' (Artisan; 2003) ISBN 1-5796-5240-9&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life'' (Random House; 2004) ISBN 1-4000-6030-3&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember'' (Random House; 2005) ISBN 1-4000-6412-0&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them'' (Twelve; 2007) ISBN 0-4466-9911-X&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCain, John [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=513224&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''My six years of hell: John McCain recalls life as a prisoner of war in Vietnam''] 8 February 2008 [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 9 February 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John McCain 2008 Presidential Campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Previous Breaking News/John McCain|Articles about '''John McCain''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[White House]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cindy McCain]], spouse of [[John McCain]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Roberta McCain]], mother of [[John McCain]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsckD9trn4&amp;amp;eurl=http://evangelicalsformccain.org/meetthesenator.htm ''John McCain: Courageous Service''] - Streaming video documentary hosted at YouTube, including footage of McCain's time as a POW and the Forrestal incident. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542249 John McCain Biography]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://evangelicalsformccain.org/index.htm Evangelicals for McCain] - Christians, Families and Patriots for John McCain&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://studentsformccain08.blogspot.com/ Students for McCain 2008]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/01/mccains-mom-pop.html McCain's Mom Pops Off]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rd.com/national-interest/people-and-politics/our-interview-with-sen-john-mccain/article.html Presidential Candidate John McCain on the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=53270 Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Russell Dana &amp;quot;Russ&amp;quot; Feingold''' (b. March 2, 1953) is a [[liberal]] junior [[United States Senator]] from the state of [[Wisconsin]].  He has served in the senate since 1993. He was the only Senator to vote against the [[Patriot Act]] in 2001, comparing it to Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus and the internment Japanese citizens during [[World War II]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.russfeingold.org/civil_liberties.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Feingold was the first senator to call for a specific date for troop withdrawal of U.S. forces in the [[Iraq War]] on August 17, 2005.  When [[President Bush]] pointed out a specific timetable would play into the terrorists' hands, Feingold stated that &amp;quot;not talking about endgames&amp;quot; was advantageous for the terrorists. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/17/AR2005081701778.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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