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User talk:Michaeldsuarez

2011-09-06T16:57:07Z

NoWicky:

<nowiki>{{Welcome|--[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 13:33, 12 October 2009 (EDT)}}

== Good to see you! ==

Every familiar face is welcome, 
Don't you think?--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 15:20, 10 August 2011 (EDT)</nowiki>

User:Michaeldsuarez

2011-09-06T16:56:54Z

NoWicky:

<nowiki>A [[Encyclopedia Dramatica|EncyclopediaDramatica.ch]] sysop, [[neoconservative]], [[States' rights|federalist]], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Whig_Party Modern Whig party] member.</nowiki>

User talk:DavidE

2011-09-06T16:55:22Z

NoWicky:

<nowiki>{{welcome}} A little late but ya know! :P --[[User:BethanyS|Beth]][[User talk:BethanyS|Talk]] 15:17, 20 June 2007 (EDT)
:Thank you for the welcome. [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 15:22, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Quite welcome! *grin* --[[User:BethanyS|BCS]][[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']] 12:01, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks for your edit on David.[[User:Daniel1212|Daniel1212]] 12:29, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:You're welcome, and thank you for all of the work that you've put into Conservapedia. [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 15:37, 9 April 2009 (EDT)

==Wikipedia as a Liberal website==

I've had [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Deliberate_ignorance&curid=59383&diff=777288&oldid=776455&rcid=854743 the same problem] at Wikipedia. Is it really an encyclopedia, or just a discussion board posing as one? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 12:30, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:Good question, and I'm inclined to think the latter. Wikipedia articles all too often get hijacked by people who care more about their pet opinions than about the facts. In typical liberal fashion, they've construed "NPOV" to mean "my POV." [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 13:06, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

==Merging the streams==

[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Thames_River&curid=112790&diff=877403&oldid=875266&rcid=1187409 Nice merge], keep up the good work! --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 12:48, 9 June 2011 (EDT)
:Thanks. [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 12:49, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

==Good golly!==

I had no idea you've been here for 4 years. How could I have missed all your contributions? (Probably because I was too busy interacting with project opponents). Anyway thank you for creating [[Cafeteria Christianity]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 14:38, 9 June 2011 (EDT)
:You're welcome, and I'm glad you like it. [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 16:17, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

==Oops!==

Actually you [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Homosexual_Agenda&curid=69968&diff=877518&oldid=877453&rcid=1187531 did the merge] ... I will now go eat my words. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 16:40, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

==Merging in your sleep==

How about merging [[dormancy]] with [[hibernation]] and [[aestivation]]? The first is the main article, with the 2nd two just being seasonal ways of saying the same thing. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 14:33, 1 September 2011 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:DavidE|DavidE]] 11:28, 2 September 2011 (EDT)</nowiki>

User:DavidE

2011-09-06T16:55:06Z

NoWicky:

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KJV, YEC, GOP, and not at all PC! I believe in what the Bible says, not in what some liberal "pastor" feels that the Bible should say. I also believe in the entire Bible; I am not the sort of Christian who believes just in those parts of the Bible that he likes, and only when they suit him. I do not believe that those parts of the Bible that inconvenience me are to be explained away, while those parts of the Bible that apply only to someone else are to be retained, and I am suspicious of any form of Bible interpretation that the homosexuals could turn around and use to justify their lifestyle choice.

One thing that I like about Conservapedia, and one reason why I think that it is so important, is that edits relying on the authority and inerrancy of Scripture aren't constantly reverted in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity" or discounted as "vandalism," as they are on certain liberal sites that I could name.

April 11, 2011, was my fourth anniversary of editing Conservapedia.

Liberal vandals have repeatedly vandalized both my user page and my talk page. I wonder why they bother, since liberal trolls, vandals, and parodists are always found out so quickly here.

[[Category:Baptist Conservapedians]]

User talk:FOIA

2011-09-06T16:54:37Z

NoWicky:

<nowiki>{{Welcome}}

Sorry about the hasty block. You seem to be doing good work at [[Alger Hiss]], but one of your edit summaries was incorrect: you said you were adding "lots" of detail but only added a 3-letter acronym. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 20:51, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

==Name change==

This is not about the quality of your work, but we do not allow user names consisting of all capital letters. Please think of a new username and request a bureaucrat (like [[User:Aschlafly]]) for a name change. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:16, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

== Alger Hiss ==

This is a remarkable piece of work, and I see it was nominated for 'featured article'. However, due to the large number of red links in it, is was rejected. Do you see fit to getting around to working on those, then we can re-instate it for nomination? --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 18:05, 25 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks for the compliment. Working on eliminating red links.[[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 17:13, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:Thank you! I have resubmitted it for consideration. Good luck! --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 04:52, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Excellent job! Excellent. This is the definitive text found anywhere on the internet. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:11, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

: Thanks -- crosposted from [[Talk:Alger Hiss]]:

::The only way I can figure to fix the quote is to use the ref tag. I'll insert it until we can figure out how to get the direct external link. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:03, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

Just out of curiosity, are you working on a book about Hiss? If not, I think you should be! [[User:AngusF|AngusF]] 20:26, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

:::Thanks. Best not to say too much. [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 20:27, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

==Disappearing quote==

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{{cquote|[I]n the fall of 1944 there was a difference of opinion in the [[State Department]]. I felt that the [[Russian]]s were not going to be sympathetic and cooperative....[I]ntelligence reports which were in my charge indicated a [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200002/ai_n8887974/ very aggressive] policy, not at all in line with the kind of cooperation everyone was hoping for. I was pressing for a pretty clean-cut showdown then when our position was strongest. The opposite group in the State Department was largely ... [[Dean Acheson|Mr. Acheson]]'s group ... with Mr. Hiss as his principal assistant in the matter.... [A]t that time Mr. Hiss did take what we would call today the pro-Russian point of view..." J. Anthony Panuch concurred: “Mr. Acheson and Mr. Hiss at the time I was in the department were sympathetic to the Soviet policy.” I got trimmed in that fight, and, as a result, went to [[Brazil]], and [http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=453 that ended my diplomatic career].}}

so I removed the quote template. How can we restore this? I must be tired. [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 23:59, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

== Photos ==

Hi - we have only just now seen your request for the photos for [[Alger Hiss]]. If you have a look on the tal page there, I have linked to those I have uploaded so far. Also, please remember to use [[ Conservapedia:Image upload requests]] for any future requests. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 06:24, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

Thanks again.[[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 16:24, 31 March 2009 (EDT)

== More photos ==

As per your e-mail, I have uploaded the following photos. Unfortunately, the "Holodomor" and "Rusland" pictures I can not upload, as photos or corpses to not really meet our criteria of "family friendly". --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 05:40, 1 April 2009 (EDT)
*Hiss signature - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:HissSig.png here]
*Chart - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:FBI-Hiss-chart.png here]

:Thank you for your help.[[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 10:26, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

== New formats ==

I have converted the .gifs to .jpgs and the thumbnails seem to be ok now. New links are:
* Soupkitchen - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Soupkitchen.jpg here]
* Hiss et al - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Hissetal.jpg here]
* Stet & Hiss - [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:StetHiss.jpg here]
* Molotov signs- [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Molotov_signs.jpg here]
:I think it was (hopefully) just these 4. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']] 04:19, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

==Upload==
Here's the upload (sorry for the delay). [[File:Un50-016.gif]] [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:36, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

:Thanks, Rob! [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 19:17, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

::Here's a jpeg [[File:Yaltaconference.JPG]] [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:30, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

:::Thanks again. [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 15:36, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

==imgs==
Here's the imgs. [http://conservapedia.com/File:Roach_to_Ladd_3-14-46.jpg][http://conservapedia.com/File:Hiss_in_cuffs.jpg] [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:25, 21 November 2009 (EST)

P.S. Congratulations on the Award. [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Conservapedia_Day&diff=prev&oldid=722622] I was the recipient of the Joe McCarthy & Richard M. Nixon honors. I truelly am humbled. <nowiki>Debate:2009_Conservapedia_day_awards#Paranoia_2</nowiki> [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:25, 21 November 2009 (EST)

: Thanks, Rob, and congratulations. [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 13:53, 23 November 2009 (EST)

==Uploads==

I think I got all of them. Let me know if I left any out. The last one down we already have from the same source. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:41, 12 December 2009 (EST)

[[File:Molotov with nazis.jpg]]‎ (Molotov in Nazi Germany, 1940) [[File:Stalin und Ribbentrop im Kreml.jpg]] ‎ ‎[[File:4001076F-528B-4625-9F85-B1C4E52C8547 w527 s.jpg]] ‎[[File:91391.jpg]] ‎ [[File:Zx500y290 786692.jpg]]

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==Joe Lash==
After all these years, we got the long-overdue [[Joe Lash]] article started. You were indispensable and it's much appreciated. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 22:48, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== Congratulations! ==

I see Andy has given you night editing rights....well deserved are more than earned! --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big>/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 03:45, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

== Thanks for fixing link ==

Thanks for fixing the link on [[Talk:Main Page]] for the IPCC story. I was wondering why it didn't work!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:00, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Ameriwiki==
I've recently become involved in the new [http://ameriwiki.wikkii.com/wiki/Main_Page Ameriwiki] project and will be discussing with them shortly about creating pages relating to the type of work you've been doing. You're invited to join as well, or with your permission we may be able to move much of your work over there, too. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 00:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

== quick question ==

You user page seems to have a lot of good information. How much of your user page's information are you incorporating into CP article content? For example, I don't see muchof it incorporated into CP's [[Karl Marx]] and [[communism]] articles. I would suggest moving it more into articles and then have your user page link to the articles you substantially created content for. Just a friendly suggestion as I think you have good info on your user page that should be read by more people. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:22, 7 August 2011 (EDT)</nowiki>

User:FOIA

2011-09-06T16:54:14Z

NoWicky:

<nowiki>{{Useful links}}
{{cquote|I don't think that the way to correct a spin from the left is to try to impart a spin from the right.... [A]n information flow distorted from the right would be just as much a disservice as distortion from the left. What we really should be after... is accurate information. And I don't see what any conservative or anybody else for that matter has to fear from accurate information.}}
::::::::-M. Stanton Evans, “[https://www.policyarchive.org/bitstream/handle/10207/13275/92440_1.pdf?sequence=1 Can Conservatives Change the Media?]” Heritage Foundation Resource Bank lecture, August 7, 1990

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=Karl Marx=
'''Karl Heinrich Marx''' (May 5, 1818<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1818-bc.htm Birth Certificate of Karl Marx], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''Collected Works'', Vol. 1 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), p. 635</ref> – March 14, 1883) was a bourgeois<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W.W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, pp. 8, 278</ref> political pamphleteer,<ref>George Bernard Shaw, “Trotsky, Prince of Pamphleteers,” ''The Nation'' (ISSN 0027-8378) Vol. 1922 No. 30 (June 7, 1922), pp. 560-561, reprinted in Brian Tyson, ed., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Ui6sNgX5vfQC Bernard Shaw's Book Reviews: Volume Two,1884-1950]'' (University Park, PA.: Penn State Press, 1996) ISBN 0271015489, pp. 440-450. Cf. Terrell Carver, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=HgbPEM0A4ksC The Postmodern Marx]'' (University Park, PA.: Penn State Press, 1998), p. 160</ref> polemicist<ref>Chris Matthew Sciaberra, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=D7z2ACODvLkC Marx, Hayek and Utopia]'' (SUNY Press, 1995) ISBN 0791426165, p.6. Cf. Michael Grenfell and Cheryl Hardy, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=ao6emzDlvIAC Art Rules: Pierre Bourdieu and the Visual Arts]'' (Berg Publishers, 2007) ISBN 1845202341, p.17</ref> and propagandist,<ref>Baron John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=ItJmAAAAMAAJ The Cambridge Modern History]'' (New York: The MacMillan Company, 1910), p. 758. Cf. Milorad M. Drachkovitch and Sidney Hook, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=MJkLqIlu-q4C Marxist Ideology in the Contemporary World: Its Appeals and Paradoxes]'' (Ayer Publishing, 1973) ISBN 0836981545, p. 113</ref> credited as co-founder (with Friedrich Engels) of communism<ref>Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=am7G9xBmlXAC The Communist Manifesto and Other Writings]'' (Barnes & Noble, 2005) ISBN 1593081006, p. vi</ref> and specifically of Marxism. According to Don Ross, co-editor of ''[http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/oso/public/content/oho_philosophy/9780195189254/toc.html The Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Economics]'', "the Marxist system as a whole is not regarded as economics by the mainstream."<ref>Don Ross, "[http://uct.academia.edu/documents/0095/6341/Economics__anti-economics_and_ideology.pdf Economic theory, anti-economics, and political ideology]," p. 10</ref> Economist Thomas Sowell, an ex-Marxist,<ref>Ray Sawhill, "[http://www.salon.com/books/int/1999/11/10/sowell Black and right]," Salon.com, November 10, 1999</ref> agrees:
{{cquote|[T]he Marxian contribution to economics can be readily summarized as virtually zero. Professional economics as it exists today reflects no indication that Karl Marx ever existed... [T]he development of modern economics has simply ignored Marx. Even economists who are Marxists typically utilize a set of analytical tools to which Marx contributed nothing... In professional economics, ''Capital'' was a detour into a blind alley...<ref>Thomas Sowell, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=TVkVAAAAIAAJ Marxism: Philosophy and Economics]'' (Taylor & Francis, 1985) ISBN 0043201717, p. 217.</ref>}}
William Coleman of the Australian National University actually identifies Marx as an "anti-economist."<ref>William Coleman, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=jMipPwAACAAJ Economics and its Enemies: Two Centuries of Anti-Economics]'' (London: Palgrave Macmillan, 2002) ISBN 1403941483, p. 234.</ref> Ross concurs, labeling Marx "the most influential anti-economist of all."<ref>Don Ross, "[http://uct.academia.edu/documents/0095/6341/Economics__anti-economics_and_ideology.pdf Economic theory, anti-economics, and political ideology]," p. 10</ref> Even Michael Harrington, a well-known Marxist,<ref>Wayne Price, "[http://www.utopianmag.com/files/in/1000000043/wayne_utopia.pdf Anarchism: Utopian or Scientific?]" ''The Utopian'' Vol. 5, p. 62</ref> in his book, ''The Twilight of Capitalism'', devoted an entire chapter to Marx "The anti-economist."<ref>Michael Harrington, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=__ROAAAAMAAJ The Twilight of Capitalism]'' (Simon and Schuster, 1976) ISBN 0671227599, chapter 5</ref> Nevertheless, men and women of zeal, often well-meaning but without understanding<ref>"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." [http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0277_0438_ZD.html Brandeis, J., Dissenting], ''Olmstead v. United States'' 277 US 438 (1928)</ref> of economics, ravaged the 20th century reifying Marx's economic illusions—in the process killing more people than all the century's wars combined.<ref>R.J. Rummel, [http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/what-only-35000000-killed-in-20th-century-war/ What? Only 35,000,000 Killed in 20th Century War?], Democratic Peace Blog, November 30, 2008. In 1918, Grigory Zinoviev, first head of the Comintern, announced: "To overcome of our enemies we must have our own socialist militarism. We must carry along with us 90 million out of the 100 million of Soviet Russia's population. As for the rest, we have nothing to say to them. They must be annihilated." (George Leggett, ''The Cheka: Lenin's Political Police'' [Oxford University Press, 1986] ISBN 0-19-822862-7, p. 114) Zinoviev's estimate that the Soviets would murder 10 million people was far too low: Mid-range academic estimates of the number of civilians murdered by Marxists range from 94 million (Stéphane Courtois, ed. ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=H1jsgYCoRioC The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression]'' [Harvard University Press, 1999] ISBN 0-674-07608-7, p. 4) to 148 million (R.J. Rummel [Department of Political Science, University of Hawaii], "Stalin Exceeded Hitler in Monstrous Evil; Mao Beat Out Stalin", ''Hawaii Reporter'', December 1, 2005. Cf. R.J.Rummel, [http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/reevaluating-chinas-democide-to-73000000/ Reevaluating China’s Democide to 73,000,000], Democratic Peace Blog, October 10, 2005; R.J. Rummel, [http://www.ciolek.com/SPEC/rummel-on-democide-2005.html Reevaluated democide totals for 20th C. and China], Asia Pacific Research Online, November 29, 2005 [T. Matthew Ciolek, ed., Head, Internet Publications Bureau, Research School of Asian and Pacific Studies, National Institute for Asia and the Pacific, Australian National University]; Chris Banescu with Scott Manning, [http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2010/03/09/the-communist-holocaust/ Communist Holocaust: 100+ million dead, hundreds of millions more tortured, imprisoned, and enslaved], OrthodoxNet.com Blog, March 9, 2010</ref>

==Early life==
Marx was born "Carl Marx"<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1818-bc.htm Birth Certificate of Karl Marx], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''Collected Works'', Vol. 1 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), p. 635</ref> in the Rhineland city of Trier, then in the Kingdom of Prussia (now in the Federal Republic of Germany),<ref>[http://www.london.diplo.de/Vertretung/london/en/05/Art/Roman__Culture/Roman__Culture__Seite.html Roman Culture in Germany], Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany, London</ref> the son of Heinrich Marx and Henriette Pressborck.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1818-bc.htm Birth Certificate of Karl Marx], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''Collected Works'', Vol. 1 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), p. 635</ref> Marx's father was a successful lawyer<ref>Hyam Maccoby, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=h6Wo5CIgk84C Antisemitism and Modernity: Innovation and Continuity]'' (Abingdon: Routledge, 2006) ISBN 041531173X, p. 64</ref> and owner of several Moselle vineyards.<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W.W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, p. 10</ref> Philosophically, he was a liberal<ref>John Spargo, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=oM0WAAAAYAAJ Karl Marx: His Life and Work]'' (B. W. Huebsch, 1912), p. 18</ref> who “knew his Voltaire and Rousseau by heart.”<ref>Wilhelm Liebknecht (Trans. Ernest Untermann), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=kEYv3uqzDvsC Karl Marx: Biographical Memoirs]'' (Chicago: C. H. Kerr & company, 1901), p. 163</ref> After the Prussian Edict of 1812 effectively banned Jews from public office and the professions,<ref>Michael A. Meyer, ed., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=cm7wbAEGr2AC German-Jewish History in Modern Times: Vol. 2, Emancipation and acculturation, 1780-1871]'' (Columbia University Press, 1997) ISBN 0231074743, pp. 24-27</ref> he converted from [[Judaism]] to the Evangelical Church<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1818-bc.htm Birth Certificate of Karl Marx], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''Collected Works'', Vol. 1 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), p. 635. Cf. Allan Megill, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=yLF7hxDPWNoC Karl Marx: The Burden of Reason (Why Marx Rejected Politics and the Market)]'' (Rowman & Littlefield, 2002) ISBN 0742511669, p. 72</ref> (established in 1817 as the state church of Prussia),<ref>John Henry Kurtz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=m26sAI63HSkC History of the Christian Church from the Reformation to the Present, Volume 3]'' (Edinburgh: Clark, 1863) ISBN 1417991631, pp. 302-303. Cf. "Prussia" in Hugh Chisholm, ed., [http://books.google.com/books?id=Du4tAAAAIAAJ ''The Encyclopædia Britannica: A Dictionary of Arts, Sciences, Literature and General Information'', 11th Ed., Vol. 22] (New York: The Encyclopædia Britannica Company, 1911), p. 522; "[http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05642a.htm Evangelical Church]," ''Catholic Encyclopedia''</ref> changing his name from Hershel Mordechai to Heinrich Marx.<ref>Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=ZZuDP8hGg5IC The Communist Manifesto]'' (New York: International Publishers, 1950), p. 9</ref> In 1824, he had his seven children, including six-year-old Karl, baptized.<ref>Werner Blumenberg, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=eMkjlNv4neUC Karl Marx: An Illustrated Biography]'' (Verso, 2000) ISBN 1859842542, p. 10</ref>

===Marx the Christian===
Marx was confirmed at age 15. As a student at the Royal Frederick William III gymnasium, he was to all appearances a Christian. When Marx graduated in 1835, his diploma read, under the category “Religious knowledge”: “His knowledge of the Christian faith and morals is fairly clear and well grounded; he knows also to some extent the history of the Christian Church.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1835-mat.htm Certificate of Maturity for Pupil of the Gymnasium in Trier], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), p. 643</ref> Yet even then Marx betrayed a tendency to substitute man for God as the primary and ultimate object of Christian love and sacrifice. In an 1835 senior thesis, the 17-year-old Marx wrote that in union with Christ, "we turn our hearts to our brothers whom He has closely bound to us, and for whom also He sacrificed Himself... Therefore union with Christ bestows... a heart which is open to love of mankind..."<ref>Karl Marx, “[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/marx/1835chris.htm The Union of Believers With Christ According to John 15: 1-14, Showing its Basis and Essence, its Absolute Necessity, and its Effects],” in Robert Payne, ed.,''The Unknown Karl Marx'' (New York University Press, 1971), ISBN 0340093935, pp. 39-43, reprinted in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 636–639</ref> Likewise, in another senior thesis written at the same time, Marx wrote that "religion itself teaches us that the ideal being whom all strive to copy sacrificed himself for the sake of mankind, and who would dare to set at nought such judgments?"<ref>Karl Marx, “[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1837-pre/marx/1835-ref.htm Reflections of a Young Man on The Choice of a Profession],” ''Archiv für die Geschichte des Sozialismus und der Arbeiterbewegung'' (1925), reprinted in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 3-9</ref> Marx, a descendant of famous Talmudic scholars and sages on both sides of his family,<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=MAuzkb28pKQC Intellectuals]''(HarperCollins, 1990) ISBN 0060916575, p. 53</ref> apparently studied Greek and French, but not Hebrew.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1835-mat.htm Certificate of Maturity for Pupil of the Gymnasium in Trier], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), p. 643</ref> He would put this education to strange uses: "Many of Marx’s dogmas were not original," writes economist Mark Skousen. "They came from the Bible, which he twisted and changed to suit his purposes."<ref>Mark Skousen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=18w8JtsMRIcC The big three in economics: Adam Smith, Karl Marx and John Maynard Keynes]'' (M.E. Sharpe, 2007) ISBN 0765616947, p. 70</ref>

===Bonn University===
However, Marx's Christianity had little staying power. Barely a month after starting the study of law at Bonn University in October 1835, Marx seems to have embraced atheism. Heinrich disapproved, warning his son:
{{cquote|[A] great support for morality is pure faith in God. You know that I am anything but a fanatic. But this faith is a real [require]ment of man sooner or later, and there are moments in life when even the atheist is [involun]tarily drawn to worship the Almighty... for what Newton, Locke and Leibniz believed, everyone can [...] submit to.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1835-fl2.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], November 18, 1835, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 645-648</ref>}}

Marx was not academically successful, and proved to be a disappointment to his parents,<ref>John Spargo , ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=oM0WAAAAYAAJ Karl Marx: His Life and Work]'' (B. W. Huebsch, 1912) , p. 33</ref> confirming his father's opinion “that in your heart egoism is predominant.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1835-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], November 8, 1835, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), p. 645</ref> As a leader of the Trier Tavern Club, a group of students “whose main ambition was to get drunk as frequently and riotously as possible,” Marx began playing cards, getting into drunken brawls, and was even wounded in a duel.<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, pp. 15-16</ref> He spent 24 hours in jail “for disturbing the peace by rowdiness and drunkenness at night.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/misc/1841-cb.htm Leaving Certificate from Berlin University], Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''Collected Works'', Vol. 1, pp. 703-704</ref> His father tried to dissuade the young Marx from such vices, warning his son that “youthful sins in any enjoyment that is immoderate or even harmful in itself meet with frightful punishment.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 648-652</ref>

His father's warning had no discernible effect. Years later, in London, Marx went on “many a pub crawl.”<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, pp. 6, 74. Cf. Jack Newcombe, "[http://books.google.com/books?id=8VMEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105#v=onepage&q&f=false The Karl Marx Memorial Pub Crawl]," ''Life'', October 25, 1968, pp. 105-106; "[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/86431.stm Cheers to Karl Marx], BBC, 1 May, 1998; Richard Newberry, "[http://www.lastampa.it/_web/CMSTP/tmplrubriche/giornalisti/grubrica.asp?ID_blog=145&ID_articolo=74&ID_sezione=308&sezione=A London Pub Crawl with Karl Marx]," ''La Stampa'', November 26, 2007</ref> On one of these, accompanied by Wilhelm Liebknecht and Edgar Bauer, Marx drank in no less than 18 different pubs. In one of these, Marx's “inebriated comments”<ref>N. Ann Davis, Richard Keshen and Jeff McMahan, eds., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=DEQNjMMF4tkC Ethics and Humanity: Themes from the Philosophy of Jonathan Glover]'' (Oxford University Press, 2010) ISBN 0195325192, p. 278</ref> that Germany “would yet outclass all other nations” nearly got them, once again, into a fight. They fled into the street where, according to Liebknecht, “we broke four or five street lamps.”<ref>Wilhelm Liebknecht (Trans. Ernest Untermann), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=kEYv3uqzDvsC Karl Marx: Biographical Memoirs]'' (Chicago: C. H. Kerr & company, 1901), p. 150</ref> When he participated in this crime, Marx was a husband and father himself, nearly 40 years old.<ref>Boris Nicolaievsky and Otto Maenchen-Helfen, (Trans. Gwenda David and Eric Mosbacher), ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=4rbH49xtcpkC Karl Marx: Man and Fighter]'' (London: Methuen, 1936) ISBN 1406727032, p. 40</ref>

====Marx's personal economy====
Marx's youthful bacchanalia seem to have been riotously expensive; while he was still a student, there emerged what was to become a dominant theme of his life: his "grotesque incompetence"<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GTqHpZech0YC Intellectuals: From Marx and Tolstoy to Sartre and Chomsky]'' (HarperCollins, 2007) ISBN 0061253170), p. 73</ref> in real-world economics.<ref>The word "economics" is used here in the original sense of household management, administration or stewardship. M. M. Austin and Pierre Vidal-Naquet, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=ekqCOGr1_NAC Economic and social history of ancient Greece: an introduction]'' (University of California Press, 1980) ISBN 0520042670, p. 162</ref> On this score, the letters of Marx's long-suffering father tell a sorry tale:
* “Your accounts, dear Karl, are... disconnected and inconclusive. If only they had been shorter and more precise, and the figures properly set out in columns, the operation would have been very simple. One expects order even from a scholar, and especially from a practical lawyer.... I enclose a money order for 50 talers...”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 648-652</ref>
* “I sent... 50 talers. With what you took with you, that makes 160 talers.... I am convinced that it is possible to manage with less... But no more under any condition... I enclose a draft on... the lottery office in the university building; you will get money there, as m[uch as] you need.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl2.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], March 18, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 652-653</ref>
* “You are receiving 100 talers herewith and, if you ask for it, you will receive the rest... You have not kept your word to me—you remember your promise... At the moment I could not send you any more. In the next few days you will probably receive 20 talers through Rabe.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl3.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], ca. May-June 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 652-653</ref>
* “Please, dear Karl, write at once, but write frankly, without reserve and truthfully. Calm me and your dear, kind mother, and we will soon forget the little monetary sacrifice.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-fl4.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], July 1, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 655-656</ref>
* “For the time being I am sending you herewith 50 talers. You must at present be able to estimate approximately the amount you absolutely need each year, and that is what I should like to know.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-flb1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], November 9, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 661-663</ref>
* “Enclosed a money order for 50 talers. If you prefer me to look for a firm there to make an arrangement with you, you must tell me approximately the monthly sum I should fix for you. By now you must be able to say what it amounts to with one thing and another.”<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1836-flb2.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], December 28, 1836, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 663-666</ref>
* "As if we were men of wealth, my Herr Son disposed in one year of almost 700 talers contrary to all agreement, contrary to all usage, whereas the richest spend less than 500."<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1837-fl7.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], December 9, 1837, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 685-691</ref>
* "...we are now in the fourth month of the law year and you have already drawn 280 talers. I have not yet earned that much this winter."<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/papa/1838-fl1.htm Letter from Heinrich Marx to son Karl], February 10, 1838, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume01/index.htm Vol. I] (Trans. Robert Dixon), pp. 691-694</ref>

If the young Marx's money woes were due to immaturity, in this regard he he never grew up. "Marx was perpetually in debt, thanks largely to a disastrous combination of traits in his own character," writes Hugh Griffith: "an incorrigible hopelessness with money, together with a refusal to stop spending when it ran out."<ref>Hugh Griffith, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=IyD9s6VVc-wC Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels]'' (Collector's Library, 2009) ISBN 1905716737, p. 10</ref> "Marx, the economist of the proletarian class," writes economist Yuri Maltsev, "was hardly what we would call a sound financial administrator."<ref>Yuri N. Maltsev, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=gx0X4NvNE_gC Requiem for Marx]'' (Auburn, AL: Ludwig Von Mises Institute, 1993) ISBN 1610161165, p. 101</ref> As Sowell observes:
{{cquote|Running left-wing movements has always been the prerogative of spoiled rich kids. This pattern goes all the way back to the days when an over-indulged and affluent young man named Karl Marx combined with another over-indulged youth from a wealthy family named Friedrich Engels to create the Communist ideology.<ref>Thomas Sowell, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=jJ22AAAAIAAJ Is reality optional?: and other essays]'' (Hoover Institution Press, 1993) ISBN 0817992626, p. 81</ref>}}
As a young man, Marx's financial irresponsibility "drove him into the hands of moneylenders at high rates of interest."<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GTqHpZech0YC Intellectuals: From Marx and Tolstoy to Sartre and Chomsky]'' (HarperCollins, 2007) ISBN 0061253170), p. 73</ref> This pattern continued into his middle age: "Marx was constantly borrowing money against his future income," writes Jerrold Seigal, professor of history at New York University, "and until 1863 against his family inheritance too...."<ref>Jerrold Seigal, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=hCh6hSMDrigC Marx's Fate: The Shape of a Life]'' (Penn State Press, 2004) ISBN 0271025816, p. 257</ref> Marx's relations with his mother were "icy and distant," according to biographer Francis Wheen, at least in part because "she had been inconsiderate enough to stay alive," delaying Marx's eagerly-anticipated inheritance.<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W.W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, p. 8</ref> Upon the death of Engels' mistress, Mary Burns, Marx wrote, "Instead of Mary, ought it not to have been my mother," whom Marx judged "has had her fair share of life."<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/letters/63_01_08.htm Marx To Engels, January 8, 1863], in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works]'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/volume41/index.htm Vol. 41] (Trans. Robert Dixon), p. 442</ref>

In 1869, Marx told Engels he was £210 in debt, "of which about 75 are for pawnshop and interest."<ref>Quoted by Otto Ruhle, ''Karl Marx: His Life and Work'' (New York: Now Home Library, 1942; reprint: Lightning Source Inc, 2007) ISBN 1406727024, p. 360</ref> That year, Engels sold his interest in the family firm and paid off all Marx's debts; in addition, Engels gave Marx a pension of £350 per year.<ref>F.Engels to Karl Marx, March 28, 1869: “Enclosed draft on the Union Bank of London £87–10s for March to June” (ie £350 per annum) in ''Gesamtausgabe'' [Collected Works], Part III, Vol. 3, p. 173, as cited in William Otto Henderson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=a9BvGA43rAQC Marx and Engels and the English workers: and other essays]'' (Psychology Press, 1989) ISBN 0714633348, p. 26, n. 41. The Marxist Internet Archive has apparently [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1869/letters/index.htm not yet found the time] to post this letter.</ref> According to Maltsev (using figures from an 1867 study presented to the Statistical Society of London),<ref>R. Dudley Baxter, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=gnI8AAAAcAAJ National income: the United Kingdom] (London: Macmillan and co, 1868)</ref> that put Marx's income in the top 2% of the British population—at the time the wealthiest in the world.<ref>Yuri N. Maltsev, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=gx0X4NvNE_gC Requiem for Marx]'' (Auburn, AL: Ludwig Von Mises Institute, 1993) ISBN 1610161165, p. 103</ref> Yet even this sum was not enough for Marx, who by his own admission was spending from £400 to £500 per year.<ref>Marx to Kugelmann, 17 March 1868, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=sgwQAQAAIAAJ Letters to Kugelmann]'' (Greenwood Press, 1973) ISBN 0837170451, p. 65. This is yet another letter the text of which is [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/letters/kug/index.htm missing] [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/index.htm from] the Marxist Internet Archive.</ref>

By Marx's own admission he was paying interest rates as high as 50% in 1866, when he was 48 years of age.<ref>Karl Marx, [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1866/letters/66_10_13.htm Marx To Ludwig Kugelmann, 13 October 1866], ''Collected Works'' (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), Volume 42, p. 327</ref> Perhaps not coincidentally, a "passionate hatred of usury was the real emotional dynamic of [Marx's] whole moral philosophy," argues historian Paul Johnson. "It explains why he devoted so much time and space to the subject" and, suggests Johnson, might be found "lying perhaps at the very roots of his hatred for the capitalist system."<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GTqHpZech0YC Intellectuals: From Marx and Tolstoy to Sartre and Chomsky]'' (HarperCollins, 2007) ISBN 0061253170), p. 73</ref>

==Marx's anti-Semitism and racism==
Among the money-lenders in London, Marx "made use of the Jews"—particularly "the Bambergers, Steifer and Spielmann," writes economic historian W.O. Henderson, "to raise small loans and to discount bills of exchange" from his editor—although he became "furious when they pressed him to honour debts due for repayment," showing "his contempt by always referring to them as 'Jew (or little Jew) Bamberger' and 'Jew Spielmann.'"<ref>William Otto Henderson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=a9BvGA43rAQC Marx and Engels and the English workers: and other essays]'' (Psychology Press, 1989) ISBN 0714633348, p. 70</ref> (Elsewhere, he called Bamberger a member of "the stock-exchange synagogue.")<ref>Léon Poliakov, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=w39m4aohL9gC The History of Anti-semitism: From Voltaire to Wagner]'' (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2003) ISBN 0812218655, p. 424-425</ref> "His private letters are replete with anti-Semitic remarks, caricatures, and crude epithets," writes Marx's biographer, Saul K. Padover: "'Levy's Jewish nose,' 'usurers,' 'Jew-boy,' 'nigger-Jew,' etc."<ref>Saul Kussiel Padover, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Aw8YAAAAIAAJ Karl Marx, an intimate biography] (McGraw-Hill, 1978) ISBN 0070480729, p. 171</ref> Marx "sprayed anti-Semitic insults at his enemies with savage glee," writes Francis Wheen:<ref>Francis Wheen, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=3KOyuSakn80C Karl Marx: A Life]'' (W.W. Norton & Company, 2001) ISBN 0393321576, p. 55</ref> "The Jew Steinthal, with the bland smile"; "that pig... is a Jew by the name of Meier"; he called Max Friedlander "the cursed Jew of Vienna," Achille Fould a "stock-exchange Jew," and Joseph Süß Oppenheimer "the Jew Süß of Egypt;" he even called his doctor a Jew for pressing him for payment.<ref>Léon Poliakov, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=w39m4aohL9gC The History of Anti-semitism: From Voltaire to Wagner]'' (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2003) ISBN 0812218655, p. 424-425</ref>

Marx's anti-Semitism was intertwined with racism. One one occasion when fellow socialist Ferdinand Lassalle (who regularly loaned Marx money) refused him a loan, Marx complained to Engels:
{{cquote|The Jewish nigger Lassalle... would sooner throw money down the drain than lend it to a ‘friend’, even though his interest and capital were guaranteed.... It is now quite plain to me—as the shape of his head and the way his hair grows also testify—that he is descended from the negroes who accompanied Moses’ flight from Egypt (unless his mother or paternal grandmother interbred with a nigger).... The fellow’s importunity is also nigger-like.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1862/letters/62_07_30a.htm Marx To Engels], July 30, 1862, in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/cw/ Collected Works],'' Volume 41 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975), p. 388</ref>}}
Marx called Lassalle a "kinky-haired Nigger-Jew" (''kraushaariger Nigger-Jude'')<ref>Reinhold Aman, "Karl Marx, Maledictor," ''Maledicta: The International Journal of Verbal Aggression'' Vol. 6, No. 1 (1982), p. 31</ref> and continually referred to him as "Isaac," "Baron Isaac," a "little Jew," "Ephraim the clever," "Braun Yid" and "Itzig," names commonly used by anti-Semites of the day. "[T]he exodus of the Jews from Egypt was nothing but... the expulsion of the 'leprous people' from Egypt. At the head of these lepers was an Egyptian priest, Moses," assterted Marx. "Lazarus, the leper, is therefore the prototype of the Jew, and so also of Lazare-Lassalle."<ref>Pierre Birnbaum, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=vSSrAAAAIAAJ Geography of hope: exile, the Enlightenment, disassimilation] (Stanford University Press, 2008) ISBN 0804752931, p. 68</ref>

Marx's style was shared by his companions: his wife referred to Lassalle "the little Berlin Jew,"<ref>William Otto Henderson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=a9BvGA43rAQC Marx and Engels and the English workers: and other essays]'' (Psychology Press, 1989) ISBN 0714633348, p. 71</ref> while Engels called him a "greasy Jew."<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=VIKGCHT1sbwC A history of the Jews]'' (HarperCollins, 1998) ISBN 0060915331, p. 350</ref>

Marx's disdain was directed not merely at people, but extended to Judaism itself: "the Israelite faith is repugnant to me," he wrote.<ref>Robert S. Wistrich, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=uqbaAAAAMAAJ Revolutionary Jews from Marx to Trotsky]'' (Harrap, 1976) ISBN 0245527850, p. 30. The Marxist Internet Archive bowdlerizes this to "[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/letters/43_03_13.htm I dislike the Jewish faith]," but the word Marx used—''widerlich''—is generally translated as [http://translate.google.com/#de|en|widerlich disgusting], [http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/widerlich.html foul], [http://en.bab.la/dictionary/german-english/widerlich abominable], etc.</ref> Nor did Marx limit his disparagement to his creditors, but extended it to Jews in general, writing to Engels from Ramsgate that there were "many Jews and bedbugs hereabouts."<ref>Sigmund Krancberg, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=cmspK8ine2QC A Soviet postmortem: philosophical roots of the "Grand Failure"]'' (Rowman & Littlefield, 1994) ISBN 0847679284, p. 59, n. 13</ref> In thus lumping Jews together with parasites, Marx prefigured a trope that would later figure prominently in the writing of [[Adolf Hitler]].<ref> E.g., "...that parasitic nation which, particularly at the present time preys upon the honest portion of mankind; I mean the Jews." Adolph Hitler (tr. James Murphy), [http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt Mein Kampf: zwei Bände in einem Band] (Bottom of the Hill, 1938), p. 138</ref>

===Marx's anti-Semitism===
"That Karl Marx was an inveterate antisemite is today considered a commonplace which is hardly ever questioned," wrote Shlomo Avineri, professor of political science at Hebrew University of Jerusalem.<ref>Shlomo Avineri, “[http://www.jstor.org/pss/2707911 Marx and Jewish Emancipation],” ''Journal of the History of Ideas'', Vol. 25, No. 3 (July–September, 1964) pp. 445-450</ref> Marxists and other socialists "are extremely coy about it nowadays, for obvious reasons," observes British writer Alexander Baron, but "the early socialists, including the Jewish-born Karl Marx, were more than a little tainted with that most ignoble of pastimes, Jew-baiting."<ref>Alexander Baron, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Khe9AAAACAAJ Anti-capitalism from anti-semitism to 'anti-racism']'' (Anglo-Hebrew Publishing, 1995) ISBN 1898318239, p. 1</ref> Marx “was at best negative towards Jews in theory,” according to University of London historian David Cesarani;<ref>David Cesarani, ''[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/ressources/left_jews/Left_Jews_final.pdf The Jews and the Left] (Labour Friends of Israel 2004) ISBN 0 9500536-5-1, p. 1 (PDF p. 7)</ref> he was "a particularly caustic antisemite," wrote Flannery.<ref>Edward H. Flannery, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=J40gNC7cxfYC The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-three Centuries of Antisemitism]'' (Paulist Press, 2004) ISBN 0809143240, p. 168</ref> Indeed, Marx's "entire theory of class was rooted in anti-Semitism," charges Johnson.<ref>Paul Johnson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=MAuzkb28pKQC Intellectuals]'' (HarperCollins, 1990) ISBN 0060916575), p. 73</ref> Thus Sharan calls Marx an “anti-Semitic Jew,”<ref>Shlomo Sharan, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=5U-Dk-5p0mIC Israel and the Post-Zionists: A Nation at Risk]'' (Sussex Academic Press, 2003) ISBN 1903900522 , p. 125</ref> while Albert S. Lindemann, Professor Emeritus in the Department of History, University of California–Santa Barbara, dubs him “a self-hating Jew.”<ref>Albert S. Lindemann , ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NagdhSUgB9oC Esau's Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2000) ISBN 0521795389, p. 166</ref> Likewise, Sir Isaiah Berlin diagnosed Marx's condition as "self-hate" and Marx's biographer Werner Blumenberg "self-hatred"; Raphael Patai pronounced Marx the "most influential of Jewish self-haters."<ref>Raphael Patai, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=6jNniq7Ji7YC The Jewish mind]'' (Wayne State University Press, 1977) ISBN 081432651X, p. 470</ref> Henderson and Manchester University historian W.H. Chaloner comment:
{{cquote|...Marx's anti-Semitism has been played down, or even ignored, in some popular socialist accounts of Marx's career and doctrines published in the West and intended for radical and socialist consumption.... There may not be exactly a conspiracy of silence but attention may be drawn to the fact that there is a difference between telling the truth and telling the whole truth. Deception by omission is still deception. Western commentators, too, with a few honourable exceptions, have tended to dodge the issue or to gloss over unwelcome facts. Scholars unfamiliar with the German language, who rely only upon English translations of the writings of Marx and Engels, may be led astray if they use selections compiled by Marxists who are prepared to suppress evidence which might display their hero in a somewhat unfavourable light.<ref>W.H. Chaloner & W.O. Henderson, "[http://www.paulbogdanor.com/antisemitism/marxracism.pdf Marx/Engels and Racism]," ''Encounter'', July 1975, pp. 18-23</ref>}}
A case in point is the Marxist Internet Archive, which bowdlerizes some of Marx's writings (including ''On the Jewish Question'') and deletes others (including “The Russian Loan”) altogether. (See below)

===="On the Jewish Question"====
In his essay, "On the Jewish question," Marx makes it clear that he considered Jews "worshippers of mammon," writes Flannery. <ref>Edward H. Flannery, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=J40gNC7cxfYC The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-three Centuries of Antisemitism]'' (Paulist Press, 2004) ISBN 0809143240, p. 168</ref> "The Jew of Marx's essay," agrees Lindeman, "worships money...."<ref>Albert S. Lindemann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NagdhSUgB9oC Esau's tears: modern anti-semitism and the rise of the Jews]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2000) ISBN 0521795389, p. 163</ref> As Marx put it in that essay:
{{cquote|What is the secular basis of Judaism? ''Practical'' need, ''self-interest''. What is the secular cult of the Jew? ''Haggling''.<ref>The Marxist Internet Archive softens "secular cult" (''weltliche Kultus'') to "worldly religion" and "Haggling" (''schacher'') to "[http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/ Huckstering]." Cf. Allan Megill, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=yLF7hxDPWNoC Karl Marx: the burden of reason (why Marx rejected politics and the market)]'' (Rowman & Littlefield, 2002) ISBN 0742511669, p. 164. “When Marx used this particular term he borrowed from the vocabulary of anti-Semitism,” writes Werner Cohn, professor of sociology at the University of British Columbia. “Ultimately derived from the Hebrew ''sakhar'', commerce, ''schacher'' became in the nineteenth century a very specific term of abuse.” Cohn cites the famous German dictionary written by the brothers Grimm: “''[http://urts55.uni-trier.de:8080/Projekte/WBB2009/DWB//call_wbgui_py_from_form?textpattern=schacher&lemmapattern= Schacher] .... Kleinhandel, besonders gewinnsüchtiger Hausirhandel, gewöhnlich von den Juden, in verächtichem Sinne gebraucht''” [“Haggling, particularly greedy haggling, usually by Jews, with the connotation despised”], Jacob Grimm and Wilhelm Grimm, ''Deutsches Wörterbuch'' (Leipzig: S. Hirzel, 1893), vol. 8, p. 1959, as cited in Werner Cohn, “[http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a784656037~frm=abslink From Victim to Shylock and Oppressor: The New Image of the Jew in the Trotskyist Movement],” ''Journal of Communist Studies'', vol. 7, no. 1 (March 1991), pp. 46-68</ref> What is his worldly God? ''Money''.}}
Marx hammers the point:
{{cquote|Money is the jealous god of Israel, before which no other god may exist. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange.}}
Judaism has only contempt, according to Marx, for non-monetary values:
{{cquote|"Contempt for theory, art, history, and for man as an end in himself... is contained in an abstract form in the Jewish religion."}}
Despite political disenfranchisement in Prussia, claims Marx, Jews have come to dominate politics through "the power of money":
{{cquote|The contradiction that exists between the practical political power of the Jew and his political rights is the contradiction between politics and the power of money in general. Although theoretically the former is superior to the latter, in actual fact politics has become the serf of financial power.}}
Marx claimed that the Jews had elevated "their greedy, exploitive spirit"<ref>Matthew Lange, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=jMQpHAMEF1EC Antisemitic Elements in the Critique of Capitalism in German Culture, 1850-1933]'' (Oxford: Peter Lang, 2007)ISBN 3039110403, p. 39</ref> into the reigning spirit of the age, writes Matthew Lange, director of the German program at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. As Marx put it, "The god of the Jews has become secularized and has become the god of the world":
{{cquote|The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews."}}
It is "in North America," according to Marx, that the "practical domination of Judaism over the Christian world" has achieved what he calls "its unambiguous and normal expression."
As evidence, Marx approvingly quotes one observer who writes of the "devout and politically free inhabitant of New England" that {{cquote|''Mammon'' is his idol.... In his view the world is no more than a Stock Exchange, and he is convinced that he has no other destiny here below than to become richer than his neighbor. Trade has seized upon all his thoughts, and he has no other recreation than to exchange objects.... [He] talks only of interest and profit.}}

This theme, the "practical domination" of ''Judentum'' over America, would later be exploited by the Nazis, who would label the United States a "Jewish Dictatorship,"<ref>Jeffrey Herf, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=T3EZ50uDlSoC The Jewish enemy: Nazi propaganda during World War II and the Holocaust]'' (Harvard University Press, 2006) ISBN 0674021754, p. 48</ref> claiming that Jews had "economic life in New York... entirely under their control," and through newspapers "controlled by the Jews" influenced American public opinion: "The question is whether the American people want to make the Jews happy by engaging in fruitless conflict with the German Reich and the German people."<ref>Joseph Goebbels, "[http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb28.htm What Does America Really Want?]" ''Völkischer Beobachter'', January 21, 1939 [“Was will eigentlich Amerika,” Die Zeit ohne Beispiel (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., 1941), pp. 24-30]) This association of Jews with America would be reprised in 2006, when German Neo-Nazis burned a copy of ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=y50yo2rnJHcC Anne Frank: Diary of a Young Girl]'' along [http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/germany/9582 with an American flag].</ref> This argument has since been reclaimed by the left, with charges of Jewish influence once again leading America into war.<ref>It has recently been charged that "large and extremely influential Jewish donor groups are... agitating for a U.S. war against Iran" (Glenn Greenwald, as quoted in Adam Levick, "[http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=3211&TTL=Anti-Israelism_and_Anti-Semitism_in_Progressive_U.S._Blogs/News_Websites:_Influential_and_Poorly_Monitored Anti-Israelism and Anti-Semitism in Progressive U.S. Blogs/News Websites: Influential and Poorly Monitored]," ''Post-Holocaust and Anti-Semitism'' (Institute for Global Jewish Affairs), No. 92, [December 2010]); that a "secret Jewish coalition [is] raising funds in excess of $200 million to wage a propaganda war in America in an attempt to gain American support for another war against Iran" (PoliSci 000, "[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/21/12160/0406/272/539749 Apartheid Israel Trying to Start World War 3]," dailykos.com, June 21, 2008); that "Israel's powerful lobbies" in the U.S. have "embraced Israel's approach to Iran" creating a "serious stumbling block" to peace, that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's demand that Israel be "[http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html wiped off the map]" was misinterpreted, whereas "the threat is the other way around" (Phyllis Bennis, "[http://www.ips-dc.org/reports/iran_in_the_crosshairs Iran in the Crosshairs]," Institute for Policy Studies, February 28, 2008); that "a great power like the US [is] being dictated to in the conduct of its own foreign policy" by Israel (Andrew Sullivan, "[http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/01/sick-of-the-israelis-and-the-palestinians.html 'Sick' Of The Israelis And The Palestinians]," theatlantic.com, January 6, 2010), etc.</ref> This idea linking America and the Jews has powerful roots.<ref>“The anti-American left... is at least as anti-Jewish as the clerical conservative right, especially among those who have embraced a pronounced 'antifascist' and 'antiracist' credo.” (Robert S. Wistrich, ''[http://www.ajc.org/atf/cf/%7B42D75369-D582-4380-8395-D25925B85EAF%7D/wistrich.pdf European Anti-Semitism Reinvents Itself],'' [The American Jewish Committee, 2002], p. 11) "Anti-Americanism in the Islamic world and Anti-Americanism in Europe are in fact linked, and both bear an uncanny resemblance to anti-Semitism." (Natan Sharansky, "On Hating Jews: The inextricable link between anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism," ''The Wall Street Journal'', November 17, 2003) "America and Jews are seen by many Europeans as paragons of a modernity they dislike and distrust: money-driven, profit-hungry, urban, universalistic, individualistic, mobile, rootless, inauthentic, and thus hostile to established traditions and values." ("[http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=658&TTL=European_Anti-Americanism_and_Anti-Semitism:_Similarities_and_Differences European Anti-Americanism and Anti-Semitism: Similarities and Differences]," An Interview with Andrei S. Markovits, ''Post-Holocaust and Anti-Semitism'' [Institute for Global Jewish Affairs], No. 16 [January 1, 2004]) "Jews were blamed for the evils of capitalism in earlier centuries. Americans are blamed for globalization, that is, technological and economic change to the max, in our days." (Josef Joffe, quoted in Mark O'Keefe, "[http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Anti-Semitism-and-Anti-Americanism.aspx Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism]," Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, May 5, 2006) "America today has become the world's market-dominant minority," while "Jews are a market-dominant mionority in the Middle East." (Amy Chua, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=KSp1okOggpkC World on fire: how exporting free market democracy breeds ethnic hatred and global instability]'' [Random House, Inc., 2004] ISBN 0385721862, pp. 218, 229) Thus post-unification Germany, observed a journalist in 2005, is marked by "a poisonous cocktail of the three big As: anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism and anti-capitalism." (Wolfgang Munchau, "[http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/13684/part_2/antiamericanism-antisemitism-anticapitalism.thtml Anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, anti-capitalism]," ''The Spectator'', May 21, 2005)</ref>

Marx ends with a call for "the ''emancipation of society from Judaism''":
{{cquote|Once society has succeeded in abolishing the ''empirical'' essence of Judaism—huckstering and its preconditions—the Jew will have become ''impossible''.... In the final analysis, the ''emancipation of the Jews'' is the emancipation of mankind from ''Judaism''. [All italics Marx's]<ref>Karl Marx, "On The Jewish Question," ''Deutsch-Französische Jahrbücher'', February 1844, reprinted in Karl Marx, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=TKdLO2jvbqsC Early writings]'' (Penguin, 1992) ISBN 0140445749, p. 232</ref>}}

===Analysis===
“To designate Marx as an anti-Semite is nothing but cold war propaganda,” argued the Marxist<ref>Lawrence Jacob Friedman, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=tFJvyOpFJtUC Identity's architect: a biography of Erik H. Erikson]'' (Harvard University Press, 2000) ISBN 067400437X, p. 422</ref> Erich Fromm.<ref>Karl Marx, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=ZprWAAAAMAAJ Early writings]'', T. B. Bottomore, tr. (McGraw-Hill, 1964), p. v</ref> The idea that Marx was in any sense anti-Semitic is a “myth,” agrees Robert Fine, chair of the Sociology Department at Warwick University, arising in part out of what he calls a “deafness” to Marx's “ironic style.”<ref>Robert Fine, "[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=10&article_id=33 Karl Marx and the Radical Critique of Anti-Semitism], ''Engage'', Issue 2 (May 2006)</ref> The idea that Marx was an anti-Semite, concurs David Hirsh of the University of London, is "a standard misreading" of ''On the Jewish Question''.<ref>David Hirsh, Book Review: "[http://engageonline.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/book/ Perry and Schweitzer, ''Antisemitic myths: a historical and contemporary anthology'']," ''[http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/01419870.asp Ethnic and Racial Studies]'', Vol. 32, No. 4 (May 2009), pp. 749-750</ref> Marx's claim that “Money is the jealous god of Israel,” contends Fine, is actually a “witty and deeply ironic” critique of that claim.<ref>Robert Fine, "[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=10&article_id=33 Karl Marx and the Radical Critique of Anti-Semitism], ''Engage'', Issue 2 (May 2006)</ref>

But Marx expressed similar contempt for Jews, not only in his letters, but in his other writings as well. In ''The German Ideology'', Marx likens the bourgeoisie to Jews, whom he describes as criminals and hypocrites: “The attitude of the bourgeois to the institutions of his regime is like that of the Jew to the law; he evades them whenever it is possible to do so in each individual case, but he wants everyone else to observe them.”<ref>Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=DdMLAAAAYAAJ The German Ideology: including Theses on Feuerbach and introduction to The critique of political economy]'' (Prometheus Books, 1998) ISBN 1573922587), p. 194</ref> In ''The Holy Family'' Marx expands on the theme of "the material, mass-type Jews," arguing that "real ''secular'' Jewry, and hence ''religious'' Jewry ''too''... finds its final development in the ''money system''," concluding that "the task of abolishing the essence of Jewry is actually the task of abolishing the ''Jewish character of civil society''... the most extreme expression of which is the ''money system''."<ref>Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=KKPaAAAAMAAJ Collected Works'', Vol. 4] (Lawrence & Wishart, 1975) ISBN 0853152942, pp. 94, 109-110</ref>

Extreme as these German works were, Marx surpassed them in vituperation with an article he wrote for publication in America, where according to Marx the "practical domination of Judaism over the Christian world" had achieved what he called "its unambiguous and normal expression."<ref>Karl Marx, "On The Jewish Question," ''Deutsch-Französische Jahrbücher'', February 1844, reprinted in Karl Marx, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=TKdLO2jvbqsC Early writings]'' (Penguin, 1992) ISBN 0140445749, p. 232</ref> "The Russian Loan," published in the ''New York Daily Tribune'', did not just savage the Jews as capitalists, but specifically exploited the anti-Semitic stereotype of Jews as usurers:
{{cquote|Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew... [T]he cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not... a handful of Jews to ransack pockets....

[T]he real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loan-mongering mysteries.... The language spoken smells strongly of Babel, and the perfume which otherwise pervades the place is by no means of a choice kind....

Thus do these loans, which are a curse to the people, a ruin to the holders, and a danger to the governments, become a blessing to the houses of the children of Judah. This Jew organization of loan-mongers is... dangerous to the people.... The fortunes amassed by these loan-mongers are immense, but the wrongs and sufferings thus entailed on the people and the encouragement thus afforded to their oppressors still remain to be told....

The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple, and that the moneychangers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization.<ref>Karl Marx, "The Russian Loan," ''New-York Daily Tribune'', January 4, 1856, reprinted in Richard Aveling and Eleanor Marx Aveling, eds., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=D75MAAAAYAAJ The Eastern question: a reprint of letters written 1853-1856 dealing with the events of the Crimean War]'' (S. Sonnenschein & co., lim., 1897), pp. 600-606. So embarrassing is this article to apologists for Marx that the Marxist Internet Archive has dropped it down the [http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html Memory Hole]. The Web site's collection of [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/newspapers/new-york-tribune.htm Marx's articles from the ''New York Daily Tribune'', August 21, 1852-February 1861], skips from November 16, 1855 to January 12, 1856—erasing this article as effectively as [http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/research/digitaltampering/stalin1+2.jpg Stalin erased Nikolai Yezhov]. (Without mentioning this article by name, the archive does mention that the 1897 publication of the book in which this article was reprinted [http://marxists.org/archive/hyndman/1910/07/marx-and-engels.htm “was not 'helpful'.”]) The site claims that "In the past, some writers who have contributed to Marxism have expressed racist... views. The MIA generally [http://www.marxists.org/admin/intro/index.htm does not “filter out” such views]; if we are archiving the work of a writer, any and all of that writer’s work may be included...." The site's censorship of Marx himself is an exception.</ref>}}

In ''On the Jewish Question'' itself, writes Dennis K. Fischman, assistant professor of social science at Boston University, "Marx seems fairly to bristle with anti-Jewish sentiments."<ref>Dennis K. Fischman, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=6iqVtOAr8jgC Political discourse in exile: Karl Marx and the Jewish question]'' (Univ of Massachusetts Press, 1991) ISBN 0870237462, p. 13</ref> The views Marx expressed in that essay "were part of the classic repertoire of anti-Semitism," according to Gertrude Himmelfarb, professor of history at the Graduate School of the City University of New York.<ref>Gertrude Himmelfarb, “[http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/the--ldquo-real-rdquo--marx-6980 The 'Real' Marx],” ''Commentary'', April 1985</ref> It is “almost a classic anti-Semitic tract,” agrees Johnson.<ref>Paul Johnson, "[http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/marxism-vs--the-jews-6827 Marxism vs. the Jews]," ''Commentary'', April 1984</ref> It is "without any question an anti-Semitic tract," admits "[http://www.joelkovel.com/newreadings.html#ecosocialism1 eco-socialist]" Joel Kovel.<ref>Joel Kovel, “[http://www.springerlink.com/content/p2q3w7416w7h1516/ Marx on the Jewish Question],” ''Dialectical Anthropology'', Vol. 8, No. 1-2, (1983) pp.31-46</ref> Indeed, concurs Lewis, it has become “one of the classics of anti-Semitic propaganda.” <ref>Bernard Lewis, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GteStbiDEjAC Semites and anti-Semites: An Inquiry into Conflict and Prejudice]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 1999) ISBN 0393318397, p. 112</ref> This essay was "reprinted, widely quoted, and praised," adds Himmelfarb, "and became the exemplar of a classic genre of socialist anti-Semitism."<ref>[http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/marx-14979 Reader Letters: Marx], ''Commentary'', August 1985</ref>

"Much of the essay seems simply to borrow from standard anti-Semitic fare," writes Lindemann.<ref>Albert S. Lindemann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NagdhSUgB9oC Esau's tears: modern anti-semitism and the rise of the Jews]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2000) ISBN 0521795389, p. 163</ref> Coleman identifies this work as "perhaps, the most condensed identification of Jews with self-interest."<ref>William Coleman, "[http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/history_of_political_economy/v035/35.4coleman.pdf Anti-Semitism in Anti-economics]," ''History of Political Economy'', Vol. 35, No. 4 (Winter 2003), pp. 759-777</ref> Marx exploits the stereotype of Jews “linked in the popular imagination with usury, sharp dealing, and ruthless cunning,” writes Stephen J. Greenblatt of Harvard.<ref>Stephen J. Greenblatt, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=LIFaAAAAMAAJ Learning to curse: essays in early modern culture]'' (Routledge, 1990) ISBN 0415901731, p. 41</ref> He uses the “widespread antisemitic caricature of Jews as inveterate moneylenders and hucksters along with the use of the term ''Judentum'' [Jewishness, Judaism] as a metaphor for commerce,” writes Larry Ray, Professor of Sociology at the University of Kent.<ref>Larry Ray, “[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=12&article_id=49 Marx and the Radical Critique of Difference],” ''Engage'', Issue 3 (September 2006)</ref> Not only are Judaism and capitalism "described as basically the same," according to Lindeman,<ref>Albert S. Lindemann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NagdhSUgB9oC Esau's tears: modern anti-semitism and the rise of the Jews]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2000) ISBN 0521795389, p. 163</ref> but in Marx's view, Jews are "responsible for capitalism," writes Lewis.<ref>Bernard Lewis, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GteStbiDEjAC Semites and anti-Semites: An Inquiry into Conflict and Prejudice]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 1999) ISBN 0393318397, p. 112</ref> Marx considered Jews "the very soul of the corrupt capitalism he fought," wrote Flannery.<ref>Edward H. Flannery, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=J40gNC7cxfYC The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-three Centuries of Antisemitism]'' (Paulist Press, 2004) ISBN 0809143240, p. 168</ref> The essay, writes Johnson, is “based upon a fantasied Jewish archetype and a conspiracy to corrupt the world.”<ref>Paul Johnson, "[http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/marxism-vs--the-jews-6827 Marxism vs. the Jews]," ''Commentary'', April 1984</ref>

Marx expresses “a sharp, even hysterical, denial of his religious background,” writes Greenblatt, as well as “extreme [rhetorical] violence” and “utter separation of himself from the people he excoriates....”
{{cquote|[T]he tone of the attack on the Jews rises to an almost ecstatic disgust at the moment when Marx seems to be locating the Jews most clearly as a product of bourgeois culture; it is as if Marx were eager to prove that he is in no way excusing or forgiving the Jews.<ref>Stephen J. Greenblatt, "[http://www.jstor.org/pss/1343013 Marlowe, Marx, and Anti-Semitism]," ''Critical Inquiry'', Vol. 5, No. 2 (Winter 1978), pp. 291-307</ref>}}
"Marx argues that the Jew will have to cast off his 'Jewishness'—that is, his mean and grasping ways," writes Lindemann, "in order to become fully human."<ref>Albert S. Lindemann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NagdhSUgB9oC Esau's tears: modern anti-semitism and the rise of the Jews]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2000) ISBN 0521795389, p. 163</ref> Marx expresses a "bitter grudge against Judaism which borders on the desire to see it destroyed," wrote long-time ''Haaretz'' editor Moshe Glickson.<ref>Moshe Glickson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=G5fiAAAAMAAJ The Jewish complex of Karl Marx]'', J. S. Abba, tr. (Herzl Press, 1961), p. 20</ref> “Marx’s position is essentially an assimilationist one," according to Ray, "in which there is no room within emancipated humanity for Jews as a separate ethnic or cultural identity.”<ref>Larry Ray, “[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=12&article_id=49 Marx and the radical critique of difference],” ''Engage'', Issue 3 (September 2006)</ref> "Jews, Marx seems to be saying, can only become free when, as Jews, they no longer exist," observes Fischman.<ref>Dennis K. Fischman, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=6iqVtOAr8jgC Political discourse in exile: Karl Marx and the Jewish question]'' (Univ of Massachusetts Press, 1991) ISBN 0870237462, p. 13</ref> Marx's "solution of the Jewish question was not very different from Adolf Hitler's," comments Marx's biographer Robert Payne, "for it involved the liquidation of Judaism...."<ref>Robert Payne, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=cA4YAAAAIAAJ Marx]'' (Simon and Schuster, 1968) as cited in William Otto Henderson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=a9BvGA43rAQC Marx and Engels and the English workers: and other essays]'' (Psychology Press, 1989) ISBN 0714633348, p. 70</ref> Indeed, Marx's anti-Semitic rhetoric “may have contributed mightily to the bloodshed and the fire to come,” writes Max Geltman.<ref>Max Geltman, “[http://www.paulbogdanor.com/antisemitism/geltman.pdf On Socialist Anti-Semitism]," ''Midstream'', vol. 23, no. 3 (March 1977), p. 25</ref> "[T]he net result of Marx's essay is to reinforce a traditional anti-Jewish stereotype," concludes Wisrich, "the identification of the Jews with money-making—in the sharpest possible manner."<ref>''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Hl8MAQAAMAAJ Soviet Jewish Affairs'', Vol. 4, No. 1], (Institute of Jewish Affairs, World Jewish Congress, 1974), p. 56</ref> Marx "did not hesitate to besmirch the traditions of the Jewish people and to place a sword in the hands of its enemies," writes Glickson.<ref>Moshe Glickson, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=G5fiAAAAMAAJ The Jewish complex of Karl Marx]'', J. S. Abba, tr. (Herzl Press, 1961), p. 15</ref> Even Kovel, former Alger Hiss Professor of Social Studies at Bard College, concedes, "No attempt to read these pages as a play on words can conceal the hostility which infuses them, and is precisely directed against the identity of the Jew."<ref>Joel Kovel, “[http://www.springerlink.com/content/p2q3w7416w7h1516/ Marx on the Jewish Question],” ''Dialectical Anthropology'', Vol. 8, No. 1-2, (1983) pp.31-46</ref> Of this essay, Gérard Lyon-Caen, professor of labor law at the University of Paris, concludes:
{{cquote|To say that it was at the origin of modern anti-Semitism would very certainly be excessive. But to put forward the theory that it encouraged certain anti-Semitic currents in capitalistic countries or even in countries which were freed from capitalism seems hard to dispute.<ref>Gérard Lyon-Caen, "Marx et le droit moderne", ''Archives de philosophie du droit'', No. XII, Paris, Sirey, 1967, p. 1-11 (as cited in Léon Poliakov, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=w39m4aohL9gC The History of Anti-semitism: From Voltaire to Wagner]'' (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2003) ISBN 0812218655, p. 557, n. 150</ref>}}

====Left-wing anti-Semitism====
Moreover, anti-Semitism was more the rule than the exception in mainstream leftism: although many leftists try to deny it, “modern, political anti-Semitism is a creature of the left as well as the right,” admits Fine.<ref>Robert Fine, “[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=10&article_id=33 Karl Marx and the Radical Critique of Anti-Semitism],” ''Engage'', No. 2 (May 2006). "[A]nti-Semitism that we might call populist or democratic.... is linked equally to the left and right," according to historian George L. Mosse, "to the new nationalism, but also to certain tendencies in socialism." (George L. Mosse, [http://history.wisc.edu/mosse/george_mosse/summaries/jewish_history_lecture7.htm Modern Jewish History - Summary: Lecture #7], March 1, 1971, George L. Mosse Program in History, Department of History, University of Wisconsin-Madison) "[O]ne of the most frightening aspects of Hitler's book is not that he said what he said at the time, but that much of what he said can be found today in innumerable places.... As long as it does not have Hitler's name attached to it, this deranged discourse will be ignored or allowed to pass. The voices that express these opinions do not belong to a single political or ideological current.... They belong to the right and the left, to the religious and the secular, to the West and the East, to the rabble and the leaders, to terrorists and intellectuals, students and peasants, pacifists and militants, expansionists and anti-globalization activists." Omer Bartov, "[http://www.tnr.com/article/he-meant-what-he-said He Meant What He Said]," ''The New Republic'', February 2, 2004. Twenty-five years ago in the heart of the Cold War debate, anti-Americanism, anti-Israeli sentiment, and anti-Semitism "were fringe phenomena while now they are more fashionable and mainstream.... [T]hese sentiments are no longer the monopoly of any particular part of the political spectrum. They are there on the European Left, Right, and in the center." Jeffrey Gedmin, "[http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=633&TTL=Experiencing_European_Anti-Americanism_and_Anti-Israelism Experiencing European Anti-Americanism and Anti-Israelism]," ''Post-Holocaust and Anti-Semitism'', No. 27 (December 2004), Institute for Global Jewish Affairs</ref> There were “strong anti-Semitic currents on the European left in Marx’s time," he adds; "[T]here is a strong tradition of anti-Semitism on the Left.”<ref>Robert Fine, “[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/journal/index.php?journal_id=10&article_id=33 Karl Marx and the Radical Critique of Anti-Semitism],” ''Engage'', No. 2 (May 2006). "[T]he left's anti-Semitism—which, of course, it never acknowledges and fervently denies—rather than the right's conventional version of this hatred comprises the key ingredient of anti-Semitism's current European existence." (Andrei S. Markovits, "[http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3&DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=624&PID=0&IID=1754&TTL=%22Twin_Brothers%22:_European_Anti-Semitism_and_Anti-Americanism 'Twin Brothers': European Anti-Semitism and Anti-Americanism]," ''Post-Holocaust and Anti-Semitism'', No. 6 [January 2006] Institute for Global Jewish Affairs) "[T]he locus of anti-Semitism has moved from the right side of the political spectrum to the left.... These days, the hatemongers targeting Jews’ right to live peacefully spout the mantras of 'social justice' and 'peace studies,' not racial purity." (Jonathan Kay, "[http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/03/02/jonathan-kay-on-the-lesson-from-israel-apartheid-week-anti-semitism-is-now-a-creature-of-the-left.aspx The lesson from Israel Apartheid Week: Anti-Semitism is now a creature of the left]," ''National Post'', March 2, 2009). The resurgence of anti-Semitism in Europe "hails much more from the left than the right. The latter—mainly because of the continued illegitimacy and unacceptability of Nazism and fascism in European public opinion—has had a much more circumspect influence on how Jews and Israel are depicted than the left has had. Because classical anti-Semitism—certainly in its praxis—was mostly associated with the European right, the left enjoyed a certain bonus when it came to discussing all matters relating to Jews and Israel. The left could take liberties with being anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic that the right could never have. This legitimacy bonus enabled the left to employ anti-Israeli discourse that—in the meantime—has become completely common and acceptable parlance in Europe. Because of this general acceptability and overall legitimacy, left-wing anti-Semitism is much more relevant and disturbing than right-wing anti-Semitism." (Andrei S. Markovits, "[http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-markovits-05.htm European Anti-Americanism (and Anti-Semitism): Ever Present Though Always Denied]," ''Post-Holocaust and Anti-Semitism'', No. 2 [August 2005], Institute for Global Jewish Affairs) Antisemitism may be found within much contemporary "antihegemonic, radical, liberal and socialist" discourse, admits David Hirsh of the University of London, who concedes that "antisemitism is a live and virulent threat...." David Hirsh, Book Review: "[http://engageonline.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/book/ Perry and Schweitzer, ''Antisemitic myths: a historical and contemporary anthology'']," ''[http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/titles/01419870.asp Ethnic and Racial Studies]'', Vol. 32, No. 4 (May 2009), pp. 749-750</ref> In France, writes Göttingen historian Karlheinz Weissmann, many on the left saw the Jews not merely as representing "German–Marxist internationalism," but "as the embodiment of capitalism."<ref>Karlheinz Weissmann, "[http://mises.org/journals/jls/12_2/12_2_3.pdf The Epoch of National Socialism]," ''The Journal of Libertarian Studies,'' Vol. 12, No. 2 (Fall 1996), pp. 257–294, citing Edmund Silberner, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=y6EiAAAAMAAJ Sozialisten zur Judenfrage: Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte des Sozialismus vom Anfang des 19.Jahrhunderts bis 1914]'' (Berlin, 1962), pp. 65–82</ref> One "need not venture far into the pre-1930 literature of anti-economics before encountering conspicuous anti-Semitic effusions," observes Coleman. "One may say that, before about 1930, anti-economics and anti-Semitism existed in striking conjunction." He adds that "the conjunction was not accidental... [A]nti-economics and modern anti-Semitism shared some leading ideological contentions."<ref>William Coleman, "[http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/history_of_political_economy/v035/35.4coleman.pdf Anti-Semitism in Anti-economics]," ''History of Political Economy'', Vol. 35, No. 4 (Winter 2003), pp. 759-777</ref>

From the outset, according to French historian Marc Crapez, European racism and socialism were closely affiliated.<ref>Marc Crapez, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=l-dtAAAAMAAJ L'antisémitisme de gauche au XIXe siècle]'' (Paris: Berg international, 2002) ISBN 2-911289-43-9</ref> In addition, "anti-capitalism and anti-Semitism were deeply intertwined," writes George L. Mosse, professor of history at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. "[I]n fact, they had been connected since the middle-ages."<ref>George L. Mosse, [http://history.wisc.edu/mosse/george_mosse/summaries/jewish_history_lecture7.htm Modern Jewish History - Summary: Lecture #7], March 1, 1971, George L. Mosse Program in History, Department of History, University of Wisconsin-Madison</ref> "For centuries, Jewish economic success led anti-Semites to condemn capitalism as a form of Jewish domination and exploitation," writes Columbia University history professor Jerry Z. Muller, "or to attribute Jewish success to unsavory qualities of the Jews themselves.<ref>Jerry Z. Muller, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=nMZ_w0mFGIgC Capitalism and the Jews]'' (Princeton University Press, 2010) ISBN 0691144788, p. 2</ref>

“The Marxist, postmodern and post-Zionist pseudo-liberal views on democracy lead back to the totalitarian democracy of the French Enlightenment, in which anti-Semitism formed an essential ingredient,” writes Shlomo Sharan of Tel Aviv University.<ref>Shlomo Sharan, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=5U-Dk-5p0mIC Israel and the Post-Zionists: A Nation at Risk]'' (Sussex Academic Press, 2003) ISBN 1903900522 , p. 125</ref> At that time, "the Jews symbolised the distressing symptoms of modernity ushered in by capitalism and political liberalism," writes Christian Wiese, professor of Jewish history at the University of Sussex.<ref>Christian Wiese, "Modern Antisemitism and Jewish Responses in Germany and France," in Michael Brenner, Vicki Caron and Uri R. Kaufmann, eds., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=b2DN7yDuCyoC Jewish emancipation reconsidered: the French and German models]'' (Mohr Siebeck, 2003) ISBN 316148018X, p. 136</ref> “[T]he sudden prominence of a few Jews who benefited from economic liberalisation provoked a backlash from the Left.”<ref>David Cesarani, ''[http://www.engageonline.org.uk/ressources/left_jews/Left_Jews_final.pdf The Jews and the Left] (Labour Friends of Israel 2004) ISBN 0 9500536-5-1, p. 3 (PDF p.9)</ref> Voltaire denounced the Jews as ""the greatest scoundrels who have ever sullied the face of the globe".<ref>Arthur Hertzberg and Aron Hirt-Manheimer, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=hiWBs5HM_E0C Jews: the essence and character of a people]'' (HarperCollins, 1998) ISBN 0060638354, p. 164</ref> The Jews, he wrote, "deserve to be punished," for it is their "destiny."<ref>Avner Falk, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=zL_0WOiZj0oC Anti-semitism: a history and psychoanalysis of contemporary hatred]'' (ABC-CLIO, 2008) ISBN 0313353840, p. 9</ref> "The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward all nations, and revolts against all masters," wrote Voltaire, "always superstitious, always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous—cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity."<ref>Voltaire, ''Essai sur les Moeurs et l'Esprit des Nations'', Introduction, [http://www.voltaire-integral.com/Html/11/07INTFIN.html#i42 XLII: Des Juifs depuis Saül], 1753</ref>

"It was in those days that the complaint arose that Jews were 'unproductive middle men,' 'economic parasites,'" wrote Edward H. Flannery, a professor at the Institute of Judeo-Christian Studies at Seton Hall University.<ref>Eric Pace, "[http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/22/us/the-rev-edward-flannery-86-priest-who-fought-anti-semitism.html The Rev. Edward Flannery, 86, Priest Who Fought Anti-Semitism]," ''The New York Times'', October 22, 1998</ref> "It was shaped for the most part by socialist writers and became a favorite theme with later racist antisemites of a socialist stripe."<ref>Edward H. Flannery, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=J40gNC7cxfYC The Anguish of the Jews: Twenty-three Centuries of Antisemitism]'' (Paulist Press, 2004) ISBN 0809143240, p. 168</ref> Among the French Left, observes Weissmann, were "numerous individuals and groups who considered class struggle and race struggle as one and the same thing—especially with reference to the Jews...."<ref>Karlheinz Weissmann, "[http://mises.org/journals/jls/12_2/12_2_3.pdf The Epoch of National Socialism]," ''The Journal of Libertarian Studies,'' Vol. 12, No. 2 (Fall 1996), pp. 257–294, citing Edmund Silberner, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=y6EiAAAAMAAJ Sozialisten zur Judenfrage: Ein Beitrag zur Geschichte des Sozialismus vom Anfang des 19.Jahrhunderts bis 1914]'' (Berlin, 1962), pp. 65–82</ref> "[T]hrough almost all countries of Europe there is spreading a powerful, hostile state, which is perpetually at war with all other States, and which in some of them oppresses the citizens with the utmost severity: it is Jewry."<ref>Moshe Leshem, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NGSAAAAAIAAJ Balaam's curse: how Israel lost its way, and how it can find it again]'' (Simon and Schuster, 1989) ISBN 067167918X, p. 53</ref> wrote the early socialist Johann Gottlieb Fichte. "I see no other means of protecting ourselves against them, than by conquering their Promised Land and sending them all there."<ref>Bernard Lewis, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GteStbiDEjAC Semites and anti-Semites: An Inquiry into Conflict and Prejudice]'' (W. W. Norton & Company, 1999) ISBN 0393318397, p. 112</ref> Elsewhere, he suggested a more radical solution, in which Gentiles "chop off all their [Jews'] heads and replace them with new ones, in which there would not be a single Jewish idea."<ref>Jon Stratton, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Blh7RLQVIUcC Jewish identity in Western pop culture: the Holocaust and trauma through modernity]'' (Macmillan, 2008), ISBN 0230604749, p. 24</ref> In Fichte's text "we see the beginnings of the 'anticapitalist' impulse in modern antisemitism, which became central to revolutionist agendas for the redemption of humanity through the regeneration of Jewry," observes [http://www.gf.org/fellows/8291-anthony-j-la-vopa Guggenheim Fellow] Anthony J. LaVopa.<ref>Anthony J. LaVopa, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=vQx0_69P4z4C Fichte: the self and the calling of philosophy, 1762-1799]'' (Cambridge University Press, 2001), ISBN 052179145, p. 135</ref> Duquesne University professor Tom Rockmore comments that "available evidence points strongly to an early and perhaps enduring Marxian interest in Fichte's position."<ref>Tom Rockmore, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=qrS4AAAAIAAJ Fichte, Marx, and the German philosophical tradition]'' (Southern Illinois University Press, 1980), ISBN 0809309556, p. 126</ref>

“Socialist anti-Semitism is indeed almost as old as modern Socialism,” writes historian Edmund Silberner of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.<ref>Edmund Silberner, “The Anti-Semitic Tradition in Modern Socialism,” Scripta Hierosolymitana, vol. III (Jerusalem: Hebrew University, 1956), pp.378-379</ref> In his comprehensive survey of of French socialist literature from 1820 to 1920, historian Zosa Szajkowski found not a single word on behalf of Jews.<ref>Zosa Szajkowski, ''[http://www.jstor.org/pss/4464737 The Jewish Saint-Simonians and Socialist Antisemites in France]'', ''Jewish Social Studies'', Vol. 9, No. 1 (January, 1947), pp. 33-60 </ref> Pierre Leroux, who coined the word "socialism", “identified the Jews with the despised capitalism, and regarded them as the incarnation of mammon, who lived by exploiting others.”<ref>Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=VK0llzUqQ2YC Why the Jews?: the reason for antisemitism]'' (Simon and Schuster, 2003) ISBN 0743246209, p. 127</ref> He condemned what he called "the Jewish spirit, the spirit of profit, of lucre, of gain, the spirit of commerce, of speculation, in a word, the banker spirit."<ref>Lewis S. Feuer and Irving Horowitz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=8TwfWRr21zEC Ideology and the Ideologists]'' (Transaction Publishers, 2010) ISBN 1412814421, p. 141</ref> When the bourgeois<ref>"M. Doumic on Victor Hugo as a Bourgeois," Boston ''Transcript'' (reprinted in Theodore Stanton, "M. René Doumic," New York ''Evening Post'', March 24, 1898, as cited in [http://books.google.com/books?id=Y94aAAAAYAAJ ''Public Opinion'', Vol. XXIV, No. 12] (January-June, 1898), p. 374</ref> Victor Hugo, a cultural Catholic,<ref>John Andrew Frey, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=olFboDm4bcgC A Victor Hugo encyclopedia]'' (Greenwood Publishing Group, 1999) ISBN 0313298963, p. 222</ref> defended Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish officer scapegoated by the French army, the French socialist press published a manifesto denouncing Hugo's crusade on the grounds that Jewish capitalists would use the rehabilitation of a single Jew to wash out "all the sins of Israel."<ref>Joseph Telushkin, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=bIHtJzYCkqEC Jewish Literacy: The Most Important Things to Know About the Jewish Religion, Its People, and Its History]'' (HarperCollins, 2008) ISBN 0061374989, p. 275</ref> The socialism of Fourier,<ref>Fourier called Jews “parasites, merchants, and usurers.” (Julia Franklin, trans., ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=w2CgXn5jAm8C Selections from the works of Fourier]'' [S. Sonnenschein & co., lim., 1901], p. 96, n. 1. Cf. Bernard Lewis, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=GteStbiDEjAC Semites and anti-Semites: An Inquiry into Conflict and Prejudice]'' [W. W. Norton & Company, 1999] ISBN 0393318397, p. 111) Fourier's disciple, Alphonse Toussenel, wrote that "Europe is entailed to the domination of Israel" (William Oliver Coleman, "[http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/history_of_political_economy/v035/35.4coleman.html Anti-Semitism in Anti-economics]," ''History of Political Economy'', Vol. 35, No. 4 [Winter 2003], pp. 759-777); "[I]ndustrial feudalism"—as he called capitalism—"is personified in the cosmopolitan Jew." Jacob Katz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=FeH_uNpWbZAC From prejudice to destruction: anti-Semitism, 1700-1933]'' (Harvard University Press, 1980) ISBN 0674325079, p. 125</ref> Proudhon,<ref>Proudon called Jews “the race which poisons everything” and “the enemy of the human race.” Norman Podhoretz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=QUfFP_Q_nqIC Why are Jews Liberals?]'' (Random House, Inc., 2009) ISBN 0385529198, p. 62. He wrote, "This race must be sent back to Asia, or exterminated." Daniel Halévy and Pierre Haubtmann, eds., ''Carnets de P.J. Proudhon'' (Paris: Marcel Rivière, 1961), Vol. II, p. 337; Vol. VI, p. 178</ref> Bakunin<ref>Bakunin called Jews “an exploiting sect, a bloodsucking people, a unique devouring parasite.” Robert S. Wistrich, “[http://leobaeck.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/37/1/111 Socialism and Judeophobia: Antisemitism in Europe before 1914],” ''Leo Baeck Institute Yearbook'', Vol. 37, No. 1 (January 1992), pp. 111-145</ref> and Beatrice Webb<ref>Webb wrote that “the strongest impelling motive of the Jewish race” was “the love of ''profit'' as distinct from other forms of money-earning.” (Italics in original.) Beatrice Webb, “East London Labour,” ''[http://books.google.com/bookes?id=udcaAAAAYAAJ The Nineteenth Century]'', Vol. XXIV (July-December 1888), p. 176. "Jew moneylenders," complained H.M. Hyndman's ''Justice, Organ of the Social Democracy'' (the first Marxist periodical in England), "now control nearly every Foreign Office in Europe." Guido Kisch, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=5h8WAAAAIAAJ Historia judaica: a journal of studies in Jewish history, especially in legal and economic history of the Jews, Volumes 13-14] (Historia Judaica, 1951), p. 44. (On ''Justice'' generally, see Laurel Brake and Marysa Demoor, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=qVrUTUelE6YC Dictionary of nineteenth-century journalism in Great Britain and Ireland]'' [Academia Press, 2009] ISBN 9038213409, p. 328)</ref> was inseperable from this crude and vicious anti-Semitism, portraying Jews as exploiters, leeches and parasites.<ref>Edmund Silberner, “The Anti-Semitic Tradition in Modern Socialism,” ''Scripta Hierosolymitana'', vol. III (Jerusalem: Hebrew University, 1956), pp.378-379</ref>

During the 19th century, the center of left-wing anti-Semitism gradually shifted from Paris to Vienna, where the "radical-democratic and nationalist left wing" was headed by German Liberal Party leader Georg von Schönerer,<ref>Viktor Karády, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=4hGg9rMQpEEC The Jews of Europe in the modern era: a socio-historical outline]'' (Central European University Press, 2004) ISBN 9639241520, p. 360</ref> one of a group of "left-wing German liberals" who demanded "the exclusion of Jews from the new movement and as far as possible from public life";<ref>Robert A. Kann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=cG570mijBF4C A history of the Habsburg Empire, 1526-1918]'' (University of California Press, 1980) ISBN 0520042069, p. 433</ref> Hitler would later ascribe to Schönerer "the wisdom of a prophet."<ref>Adolf Hitler, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=EBUBUEeUwxUC Mein Kampf: zwei Bände in einem Band'', Vol. 1], 40th ed., (Bottom of the Hill, 1938) ISBN 1935785079, p. 93</ref> In late 19th century Germany, a popular critical view held that capitalism was a product of Jewish culture.<ref>Cristobal Young, "[http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/3/0/8/9/5/pages308953/p308953-1.php Christianity, Judaism, and the Spirit of Capitalism: The Weber-Sombart Debates]," Department of Sociology,
Princeton University, p. 1</ref> Adolf Stöcker, leader of the left-wing Christian Social Party, wrote, "I see in unrestrained capitalism the evil of our epoch and am naturally also an opponent of modern Judaism on account of my socio-political views."<ref>Peter G. J. Pulzer, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=zCoUo84hXDEC The rise of political anti-semitism in Germany & Austria]'' (Harvard University Press, 1988) ISBN 0674771664, p. 95. "The anti-semitic ideology is usually embedded into a worldview, which ‘explains’ the evils of modern capitalist society," says one "Berlin-based antifascist, anti-capitalist group." "Capitalism in this worldview is not seen as a process, which arises following its own structural logic without a particular leadership, but rather as an exploitative project consciously put into effect by evil people. Historically, this way of thinking emerged in the 19th century in Europe in a time of to the rapid spread of capitalist society and the social upheavals this triggered. The anti-Semitic worldview thus consists of personification for non-understood economic and social procedures and draws upon the picture of the ‘Jewish capitalist’ that is deeply embedded in Western culture, which for centuries associated Jews with money. It can be displayed in talk of ‘the capitalists’ who ‘pull the strings’ from ‘the US East Coast’, ‘dominate the world’ and just can’t get enough with their ‘greed’." TOP Berlin, [http://shiftmag.co.uk/?p=73 Make a foreshortened critique of capitalism history!: Without a radical critique every action becomes mere activism - reflections on the anti-G8 mobilisation 2007], shiftmag.co.uk, No. 1</ref> Meanwhile, Adam Müller, leader of the anti-capitalist right, said, “The Jewish messiah, the Antichrist, has come to earth in the guise of the steam engine, and this in order to speed up the end of the world.”<ref>George L. Mosse, [http://history.wisc.edu/mosse/george_mosse/summaries/jewish_history_lecture7.htm Modern Jewish History - Summary: Lecture #7], March 1, 1971, George L. Mosse Program in History, Department of History, University of Wisconsin-Madison</ref> According to Tyler Cowen, professor of economics at George Mason University:
{{cquote|German writers picked up on earlier anti-Enlightenment theories of a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy to rule the world. During the French Revolution, the Jews, along with the Masons, were identified as forces for liberalism, secularism, and capitalism. German writers quickly found the Jews to be a more popular target than the Masons, perhaps because they were more visible or more different. The originally Judeo-Masonic theories eventually discarded the other conspirators, such as the Templars and the Illuminati, and focused on the Jews.<ref>Tyler Cowen, "[http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-socialist-roots-of-modern-anti-semitism/ The Socialist Roots of Modern Anti-Semitism]," ''The Freeman'' (Foundation for Economic Education), January 1997</ref>}}

According to Henry L. Feingold, director of the Jewish Resource Center at Baruch College, "socialism contained the seeds to become the anti-Semitism of the intellectuals of the Left."<ref>Henry L. Feingold, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=-ZrhFjuebEEC Lest memory cease: finding meaning in the American Jewish past]'' (Syracuse University Press, 1996) ISBN 0815604009, p. 81</ref> In the 20th century, those seeds took root and grew into a forest bearing poisonous fruit: Stalinist Russia,<ref>See Konstantin Azadovskii and Boris Egorov, "[http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/egorov.htm From Anti-Westernism to Anti-Semitism]," ''Journal of Cold War Studies'', Vol. 4, No. 1 (Winter 2002), pp. 66-80. Cf. Louis Rapoport, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=5rZtAAAAMAAJ Stalin's war against the Jews: the doctors' plot and the Soviet solution]'' (Free Press, 1990) ISBN 0029258219. Even after Stalin's death, Soviet anti-Semitism persisted:
:"Since World War II Jews and Judaism have been liberated in every country and territory where capitalism has been restored to vigorous growth—and this includes Germany. By contrast, wherever anticapitalism or precapitalism has prevailed the status of Jews and Judaism has either undergone deterioration or is highly precarious. Thus at this very moment the country where developing global capitalism is most advanced, the United States, accords Jews and Judaism a freedom that is known nowhere else in the world and that was never known in the past. It is a freedom that is not matched even in Israel.... By contrast, in the Soviet Union, the citadel of anticapitalism, the Jews are cowed by anti-Semitism, threatened by extinction, and barred from access to their God." Ellis Rivkin, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=MUk1SwAACAAJ The shaping of Jewish history: A radical new interpretation],'' (C. Scribner's Sons, 1971) ISBN 0684132362, p. 240</ref> East Germany,<ref>According to Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, during the Six Day War on Israel in 1967, the East German Communist regime used former Nazi propagandists to write anti-Israeli propaganda, with the substitution of a few words such as “Israeli” for “Jew” and “progressive forces” for “National Socialism.” Simon Wiesenthal, ''The Same Language: First for Hitler—Now for Ulbricht'' (Bonn: Rolf Vogel, Deutschland Berichte, 1968), as cited in Jeffrey Herf, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=yahqnBEEbQEC Divided memory: the Nazi past in the two Germanys]'' (Harvard University Press, 1997) ISBN 0674213033, p. 189</ref> the Tupamoros-West Berlin,<ref>This Communist revolutionary terrorist group, headed by Dieter Kunzelmann, attempted to bomb Berlin's Jewish Community Center during a commemoration of the anniversary of ''Kristallnacht'' in 1969. Walter Laqueur, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xMGeXXBSY8wC The changing face of antisemitism: from ancient times to the present day]'' (Oxford University Press US, 2006) ISBN 0195304292, p. 147. Kunzelmann later became a leader of the Green Party. Aribert Reimann, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=MGKnrkMmY5cC Dieter Kunzelmann: Avantgardist, Protestler, Radikaler],'' (Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 2009), ISBN 3525370105, pp. 274-286</ref> the Red Brigade Faction,<ref>Ulrike Meinhof, a leader of this terrorist revolutionary Communist group, stated: "Auschwitz means that six million Jews were murdered and carted on to the rubbish dumps of Europe for being that which was maintained of them—Money-Jews." ("''Auschwitz heisst, das sechs Millionen Juden ermordet und auf die Müllkippen Europas gekarrt wurden als das, als was man sie ausgab — als Geldjuden.''") Robert S. Wistrich, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=acBtAAAAMAAJ Hitler's apocalypse: Jews and the Nazi legacy]'' (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1985) ISBN 0297787195, p. 230. Another founder of this revolutionary group, Horst Mahler, was later revealed to have been an [http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/01/baader-meinhof-gang-founder-stasi informant for the Stasi], the secret police of Communist East Germany.</ref> the Revolutionary Cells (''Revolutionäre Zellen'')<ref> This German Communist terrorist group joined with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (a Communist revolutionary terrorist group based in Palestine) to hijack an Air France flight to Entebbe, Uganda, where they singled out the Jewish passengers in a plot to murder them. Stephen E. Atkins, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=b8k4rEPvq_8C Encyclopedia of modern worldwide extremists and extremist groups]'' (Greenwood Publishing Group, 2004) ISBN 0313324859, p. 277</ref> and the Sandinistas.<ref>The official Sandinista organ proclaimed that "the world's money, banking and finance are in the hands of descendants of Jews.... [C]ontrolling economic power, they control political power as now happens in the United States." (''El Nuevo Diario'', July 17, 1982, as cited in Porfirio R. Solórzano, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=tFwSAQAAIAAJ The Nirex Collection: Nicaraguan Revolution Extracts, Twelve Years, 1978-1990, Vol VII: Of War and Peace]'' [Litex, 1993] ISBN 1877970018) "In 1979 many of the country's approximately 250 Jews fled abroad in the face of persecution and imprisonment by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN). The FSLN bombed and partially destroyed the country's only synagogue, then confiscated the property shortly afterward and converted it into a youth training camp." Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, U.S. Department of State, [http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2001/5681.htm Annual Report on International Religious Freedom] (2001)</ref> In the 21st century it has festered into full flower, with the embrace of Islamist anti-Semitism by the Left.<ref>"Although traditional Trotskyite ideology is in no way close to radical Islamic teachings and the shariah, since the radical Islamists also subscribed to anticapitalism, antiglobalism, and anti-Americanism, there seemed to be sufficient common ground for an alliance. Thus, the militants of the far left began to march side by side with the radical Islamists in demonstrations, denouncing American aggression and Israeli crimes. In Britain a new political party named Respect was established, uniting Trotskyites, Stalinists, Muslim Brotherhood militants, and similar groups." (Walter Laquer, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xMGeXXBSY8wC The changing face of antisemitism: from ancient times to the present day]'' [Oxford University Press US, 2006] ISBN 0195304292, p. 186). The European Union's European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia decided not to publish its comprehensive study of the causes of anti-Semitism in Europe, a source familiar with the report told London's ''Financial Times'', after the report uncovered "a trend towards Muslim anti-Semitism," and that "on the left there is also mobilization against Israel that is not always free of prejudice." (Reuters, "[http://www.haaretz.com/news/eu-racism-watchdog-shelves-anti-semitism-report-1.106473 EU racism watchdog shelves anti-Semitism report]," ''Haaretz'', November 22, 2003). Michael Neumann, Professor of Philosophy at Canada's Trent University, writes that he wants to “help the Palestinians.... I am not interested in the truth, or justice, or understanding, or anything else, except so far as it serves that purpose. If an effective strategy means that some truths about the Jews don’t come to light, I don’t care. If an effective strategy means encouraging reasonable anti-Semitism, or reasonable hostility to Jews, I also don’t care. If it means encouraging vicious racist anti-Semitism, or the destruction of the State of Israel, I still don’t care.” (Yoni Petel, "Antisemitism on Campus: A Student's Perspective," League for Human Rights, B'nai B'rith of Canada, ''[http://www.bnaibrith.ca/briefs/klein/klein030925.html Submission to the Special Rapporteur on Racism]'', Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, September 25, 2003) According to the progressive magazine ''Tikkun'', "A.N.S.W.E.R. refuses to acknowledge or support the right of the Jewish people to national self-determination—though it supports that right for every other group with a history of oppression. When Jews are denied the rights of others, it is a tell-tale sign of anti-Semitism." ("[http://web.archive.org/web/20041019075845/http://www.tikkun.org/magazine/index.cfm/action/tikkun/issue/tik0305/article/030512a.html Authoritarianism and Anti-Semitism in the Anti-War Movement?]," ''Tikkun'', May-June 2003). "[L]eftists who despise their own capitalist societies inevitably come to sympathize with militants—communists, Tier-mondistes, Islamists, it doesn't make any difference—who attack those societies from without. Right now, the only corner of the world putting up any sort of serious ideological fight against Western-style capitalism and liberalism is the Muslim Middle East. So, just as the left uncritically swallowed Stalin's propaganda in the 1930s, expect the left to increasingly swallow Arabist propaganda in our own era. And since one of the key elements of Arabist propaganda is a hatred of Israel and a suspicion of Jews, these building blocks of anti-Semitism will become more and more a part of mainstream leftist discourse." (Johnathan Kay, quoted in Jamie Glazov, Symposium: "[http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=19272 Anti-Semitism - the New Call of the Left]," FrontPageMagazine.com, March 14, 2003) Thus by 2009, the "progressive" webzine Counterpunch.org (edited by Alexander Cockburn, son of Soviet agent Claud Cockburn) could publish a revival of the "Blood Libel," alleging that Israeli Jews were killing Palestinian Muslims to harvest their organs. (Alison Weir, "[http://www.counterpunch.org/weir08282009.html Israeli Organ Harvesting]," Counterpunch.org, August 28-30, 2009) Cf. David Horowitz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=azE5qoXTgoAC Unholy alliance: radical Islam and the American left]'' (Regnery Publishing, 2004) ISBN 089526076X, p. 148</ref>

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== Clean ==

Enjoy your nice, clean talk page! --[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]] 19:15, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

== I would appreciate your support ==

Dear RSchlafly,

I am sending you a note about the [[Template:Uncited|uncited template]] and how it can substantially increase web traffic to Conservapedia.

The Conservapedia article on [[homosexuality]] is now ranked in the top 10 of http://www.google.com searches. I estimate that the Conservapedia article on homosexuality is giving 300-400 people new people a day to know about Conservapedia who wouldn't otherwise know about it. When the article is in the top 5 of the search engine rankings it will bring in SUBSTANTIALLY more as the top 5 entries get the lion's share of the internet traffic.

Now a main reason why the Conservapedia homosexuality article is ranked in the top 10 is that the search engines highly reward articles with footnotes that link to other interent websites. Accordingly, since our uncited template is successful in getting people to cite their material as Andy Schlafly stated, I made note of the uncited template in the following Conservapedia articles:

Conservapedia:Commandments: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Commandments

Conservapedia Manual of Style: http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style

Conservapedia:Footnotes - technical help
http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Footnotes_-_technical_help

Currently about 50% of Conservapedia articles are completely uncited and a high percentage of articles that are cited are poorly cited. If this persist, not many people are going to know about Conservapedia as our articles will be poorly ranked by the search engines. However, I strongly believe that the uncited template will make a substantial difference.

Accordingly, I would appreciate your efforts in supporting the [[Template:Uncited|uncited template]].

[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:40, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

'''*Conservative, around here, it is the practice of all Sysops, except you, to discuss changes before implementing them, and asking for support. The Commandments may only be changed upon direct approval from Andy. You did not receive this direct approval, no? Kindly try and act like a mannered person, post your proposals to the Sysops and Andy, then be prepared for discussion and support, not the other way around. I could support your idea, except for the encouragement of placing templates without limitiation. We have far too much clutter already, and your failing to limit template placement, by stating some guideline for what a minimum number of citations is, will lead to chaos and endless debate as to how many are too few and how many are "enough". Thanks. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|--Talk 2 Me]] 15:52, 29 July 2007 (EDT)'''

== 1992 Election ==

Nice revert. [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 18:51, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

*Since in the ''United States'', Ferret, we do not elect our President's with a direct popular vote, and never have, references to who won a majority percentage of the vote are misnomers. --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 19:37, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

::Yep, realise that's not how it works. It's an interesting and quite deliberate part of the design on behalf of the founding fathers. It's not about winning a majority of the voters across the nation, it's about winning a majority of the voters in the right number of states, with smaller states deliberately getting more than their proportional weight of the electoral college. I think it's a beautiful system that works as well with 50 states in 2004 as it does with 13 (vote counting issues aside!). Whether a particular president won a plurality, or absolute majority, of the vote is of interest for that very reason - it illustrates the system working exactly the way it's designed to work. Bush got the votes he needed in the states he needed - Gore did not. Simple as that, isn't it? (OK, it wasn't THAT simple, but let's not go there!) [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 05:57, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for adding the percentage on that election. -[[User:Additioner|Additioner]] 14:49, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

==Catch-22==

Which novel are you referring to 'published ten years earlier' on the Catch-22 page? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 17:50, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

: See [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_19980428/ai_n10413175] or [http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-20561858.html]. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 18:21, 11 August 2007 (EDT)

Hi! :)

Thanks for adding a new article, in this case [[kluge]]. Please, though, categorize your articles when you create them; while there are those of us who will go through and clean-up the uncategorized articles, you know your subject better than we do.

For a list of categories, go here: [[Special:Categories]]. To add a category to your article, type two open brackets, then "category:" followed by the category you want. Just add two closed brackets and you're done! You can add as many categories as you feel are appropriate. Thanks! [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 02:19, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

==Theory and Fact==
Please try and remain civil when it comes to altering other people's edits - there was no reason to refer to the information as "junk". If you thought it was verbose you could have just said so. Regardless, I am going to reinsert some information in a less confounding way. At the moment the flimsy terse mention of biological evolution in the article is insufficient for anyone to understand the what is considered fact and what is considered theory. It's a great example for the article. However, I don't want an edit war so my changes will only be minute at first. Regards. [[User:Wisdom89|Wisdom89]] 12:19, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

: I was civil. If I thought that verbosity were the problem, I would have said so. The reinserted text is wrong and confusing. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 12:54, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

: Absolutely not. There is nothing wrong with the information. If you have counter evidence regarding Modern synthesis or that evolutionists refer to the science as both a fact and theory, then that would be one thing. However, based on your actions, I can only presume that you simply don't want the information posted. Things aren't incorrect simply because you say so. If you require sources I'd be more than happy to supply them - but by dismissing the information, removing it without notification and referring to it as "junk" is slightly inflammatory. At least that's how I'm taking it. My edits are in good faith and meant to help the project of conservapedia. If you doubt this at all, just look at my edit history. Anyway, it would have been better had you and I discussed the changes first. [[User:Wisdom89|Wisdom89]] 14:04, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

:: Your presumptions are incorrect. Evidence for and against the modern synthesis is irrelevant. The article is just about some simple definitions. I have posted on the Talk pages an example of how your own text contradicts your own sources. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:04, 1 September 2007 (EDT)

== [[Twin Primes]] question ==
Roger, do you think there are an [[infinite]] number of [[twin primes]]? Do you think it is provable (though obviously not proven yet)?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:53, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

: I would guess yes, but until someone solves the problem, no one knows for sure. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 20:53, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

*Roger....that is what they are still saying about being able to teach me Trig! --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 21:16, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

== Shawshank Redemption ==
[http://www.shawshankredemption.net/books/the-shawshank-redemption-plot.html]"A new prisoner called Tommy comes to Shawshank prison. '''Tommy tells another prisoner, who tells Andy, that Tommy had had a cellmate at a different prison who bragged about killing a rich golfer and some hot-shot banker's wife, and the banker getting jailed for it. This is clearly the real killer of Andy's wife.''' Andy sees the possibility of a new trial since this evidence would prove his innocence. Warden Norton dismisses the story, telling Andy to ignore this made up story. When Andy argues with him warden Norton sends Andy to solitary confinement, to remind Andy of his place in the prison hierarchy." --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 05:22, 8 September 2007 (EDT)[

: That is just an argument for a court action. Nowhere does the movie say that Andy was innocent, or that he was wrongly convicted. If Andy is innocent, as you say, then for what is he being redeemed? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 06:08, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

::I will email Steven King and ask, Roger. I just remember it from the book and movie, is all....so it must have been important to the story, otherwise I would imagine King would have snipped it. Argument for a court action? Lawyers have enough business! The way he was given the news, not expecting it, nor thinking it was coming, seems to indicate he wasn't looking for a ploy. I will revert myself back in the movie list, if you haven't already, pending my hearing back from King. Fair enough? --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 06:35, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

::: Whether Andy was expecting the news, or looking for a ploy, is irrelevant. He is likely to jump on any opportunity to get out of prison. The beginning of the movie show overwhelming evidence against Andy in court. It avoids showing the murderer when the trigger is pulled. Apparently the movie wanted to create some ambiguity. My question for you: Under your interpretation, what is the "redemption" of the title? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 14:24, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

Redemption comes in many packages, I have found. Perhaps the humanity, the ability of some to maintain and even nurture the type of complex "friendship" (humanity) that the characters actually developed, in spite of their circumstances, is the "redemption". Writers speak constantly in metaphors, and not all of them built on sound ground, but in some loose manner, the characters were role-reversed, eh? The prison guard in his own prison, without walls, and the inmate in an actual one, yet actually more free? --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 15:16, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

==Vandal==

I found a vandal named spoonboy. It seems that he deliberately changed information on the Post-Diluvian Diasporas article in order to make a mockery out of Conservapedia. He also messed up the link on the page. Please examine his edits and take action if necessary. [[User:Lukecorlando|Lukecorlando]] 22:06, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

==Don Imus Edits==
When you remove the specific insults that Imus used, you remove the whole point of caring about things like racism and sexism. I suppose what you're suggesting is that those two things (racism and sexism) are acceptable? Perhaps we should just overlook them? If we are to learn anything from what Mr. Imus said and what happened to him as a result, we need to know exactly WHY he was fired. Now that he's been rehired by conservative bastion 770 WABC in New York, has the conservative agenda been amended to include "protect Imus?"

Again, when you remove what he said from the article, you remove any idea about how WRONG what he said was. This seems to me to be an attempt to soft-soap a racist, sexist comment. I wonder why you wish to do this. Perhaps you, yourself, agree with Mr. Imus' statements? Do YOU believe that the Rutgers University Ladies Basketball Team is a bunch of "nappy-headed hoes?" This seems a gross and base mischaracterization of a group of ladies I'm sure you are not personally acquainted with.

Since Conservapedia makes the claim that it is non-biased, and that it is supposedly the alternative to the liberal-biased WikiPedia (and the accuracy of that assessment is something I leave to another debate at another time), WHY, sir, have you seemingly attempted to slant things to FAVOR a radio personality who made RACIST and SEXIST remarks and who is employed by a major conservative media outlet?

I await your response, sir, with something approaching eagerness.
[[User:Artiefisk|Artiefisk]] 19:00, 27 January 2008 (EDT)

: I did not remove the quote. It was someone else. You are complaining to the wrong guy. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 21:30, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Since there was no contribution between mine and yours, sir, I feel that you are fibbing. Peruse the history of the Don Imus page and see. Perhaps someone else made the revision and used your name? Unlikely. My only conclusion is that you or someone using your name condones institutional racism and sexism in the mainstream media. If this is true of you, you ought to be ashamed. If it is someone else using your name, you ought to be outraged. Either way, at least ACT like you care.
[[User:Artiefisk|Artiefisk]] 15:30, 29 January 2008 (EDT)

: I checked the history. You inserted the quote here [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Don_Imus&diff=378862&oldid=288654] and it was removed by [User:Iduan], not me. I merely shortened your mischaracterization of what Imus said. You wrote that Imus "classified a group of female athletes as women of decidedly ill repute". That was just not correct. Imus did not say that anyone had ill repute. Please do not make false accusations against either Don Imus or me. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 16:15, 29 January 2008 (EST)

How did I make false accusations against Don Imus? He called those women "nappy-headed hoes." Where I come from, "nappy-headed" is meant as an insult against the typically tightly-curled African-American hair type. "Ho," in common use, is slang for a "whore" or "prostitute," which, when you clean it up for the good old "family-friendly" Conservapedia, means "woman of ill repute."
So, to insult typically African-American hair type, and to call these women "prostitutes," hmmm, I dunno, seems like RACISM and SEXISM to me. One doesn't have to be a trust fund baby to deny the truth, but it helps, I suppose. Good day, sir. [[User:Artiefisk|Artiefisk]] 16:30, 31 January 2008 (EDT)

: You are welcome to your opinions, but your edit was inaccurate. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 18:51, 31 January 2008 (EST)

== Thanks for the Unblock ==

I do enjoy especially the part of this project which concerns the history of sciences. It just a hobby of mine, and discussions like ours are a welcomed to delve into the literature. --[[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 16:15, 13 November 2008 (EST)

:RS, check me if I'm wrong, but I'm finding BRichtigen a bit of a distraction. Is he really doing good work somewhere around here? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 18:54, 13 November 2008 (EST)
:: I can't tell if ''you'' are finding him a distraction, but how is that ''his'' fault? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:35, 13 November 2008 (EST)

:::chuckle, you make a goood point there --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 20:38, 13 November 2008 (EST)

:: I had some disagreements with BRichtigen, but he is definitely doing good work. Please do not block him. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 00:23, 14 November 2008 (EST)

== question of lawyers responsibility as Officer of the court ==

Hi, is a lawyer who knows his client is guilty still permitted to provide a defense or is he meant as an officer of the court , to plead guilty and attempt to mitigate the sentancing ? I realize there may be a difference between what should happen and what does happen. I lived for a while in Australia and England so it may be an issue of US law vs English .. Thanks oh, this relates to the importance of good character in the appointment of white house counsel [[User:Markr|Markr]] 19:40, 21 November 2008 (EST)

: Under US law, the lawyer is required to argue the case however the client wants to plead it. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:12, 23 November 2008 (EST)
:: ok , thanks [[User:Markr|Markr]] 13:22, 24 November 2008 (EST)

== Merry Christmas ==

and I hope the New Year will give us ample opportunity to discuss interesting topics, like we have done this year!
Yours [[User:BRichtigen|BRichtigen]] 18:20, 23 December 2008 (EST)

== Happy New Year, Roger! ==

{{cquote|'''Cheers to a new year and another chance for us to get it right!'''--Oprah Winfrey}}
--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 23:33, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== Continuum ==

Hi Roger. Foxtrot and I have been arguing over the Continuum article and we really need someone to step in and mediate. I have a problem with the entire second paragraph really: "The continuum is called so because it was the first (and most prominent) continuous set studied by mathematicians. No additional numbers may be added to the continuum (real line) without losing its dense linear order without endpoints. Since the complex numbers add the imaginary number, i, to the real line, this is one reason they have no natural linear order. Any linear order of the complex numbers needs the Axiom of Choice to be constructed."

First of all the reference to a continuous set is unneccessary. I had never heard of such a thing. When I googled it I saw that it is an obscure notion that has no place in such a short introductory article to the topic. I see no reason to believe that the continuum was called so because it is a continuous set. My best guess is that the use of the word continuum predates the use of the term continuous set.

The second sentence about not being able to add more numbers to the reals is essentially meaningless. What do we mean by number? We are discussing the real line as an order theoretic/topological object. It is easy to extend the reals as such an object with out losing the dense linear order. This ties into the last statement. I outline in http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Continuum&curid=81756&diff=621255&oldid=621024 how to construct the lexicographic order on the complex plane. This refutes the last sentence as such an ordering doesn't use AC. In addition the complex numbers ordered in such a way is, from an order theoretic point of view, <math> \mathfrak{c}</math> many copies of the reals laid out end-to-end (if you get my meaning). This shows that not only can we add a point to the reals we can add uncountably many copies of the reals to the reals without destroying the dense linear ordering.

Thanking you in advance for your time. [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 08:38, 16 February 2009 (EST)

== Prime Number ==

You were the last editor to change the article on [[Prime Number]]s. Could you have a look at the section ''Sieve of Eratosthenes''? I tried to raise the interest in changing the - IMO poor - picture on [[Talk:Main Page]], [[Talk:Prime Number]] and [[File talk:Prime number.gif]], but no action took place. Could you have a look into it?
Thanks, [[User:ClementB|Clement ♗]] 12:28, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

== [[Physics]] ==
Could you please take a look to the last edits? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 08:20, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

: Why did you revert? I don't necessarily agree with all the edits, but they appeared to be constructive edits. Did you disagree? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 12:38, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

: At first it seems to be wrong in Mechanics and Thermodynamics. The editor E-mail me and I was not sure; that is why I asked your opinion. Now I will fix the mistake. Thank you. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 17:45, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

:: He also made some other edits. Did you object to those also? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 23:04, 23 June 2009 (EDT)

== From PatrickD ==

There has been some discussion of the recent changes by RoyL to the [[divergence]] and [[curl]] articles. Your name came up. So you might want to look at those pages, and their histories, and their talk pages, and my [[User_talk:PatrickD]] page. [[User:PatrickD|PatrickD]] 21:36, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

==Small Thanks from WLink==
Wanted to thank you for the support you gave for my proposed changes on the relativity page. I am a bit saddened that some people won't see reason, but at least we gave it the old college try. --[[User:WLink|WLink]] 07:19, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

== L.A. Official: 55 Jobs After $111B Stimulus ==

The story tease on their main page said 111B.....but it is indeed 111M. Thanks for spotting it! --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big>/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 02:50, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

== Evidence ==

Should there not be evidence for this? References etc.?

== Please let me know if you want to serve on a blocking policy refinement panel ==

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