2007-12-11T21:04:30Z

Norwich: add sandbox

I'm interested in Vermont political history, especially those relating to Springfield, Vermont.

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Talk:Joseph McCarthy

2007-10-23T17:49:27Z

Norwich: Flanders role in Senate censure

User talk:Norwich

2007-10-22T18:31:42Z

Norwich: /* McCarthy */ Reply to Geo.plrd

User talk:Geo.plrd

2007-10-22T17:57:38Z

Norwich: /* Flanders role on McCarthy Page */

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== Linus ==

Thank you. I had missed the page of his parole. [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 05:21, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

P.S. Thank you also for deleting the page I had created by mistake! [[User:Leopeo|Leopeo]] 07:20, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

== Notice ==

Please read this: [[New Sysops Training Page]]

[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 21:25, 17 May 2007 (EDT)
==You're not conservative==
How come you are on here, your political compass indicates that you are center to center-left. I didn't think other moderates were allowed on here. --[[User:UncleJalapeno|UncleJalapeno]] 10:47, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

*Check out his subtle vandalism here, Geo: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Iran-Contra_affair&curid=6481&diff=166849&oldid=118172] Nice, sly changes, Jalapeno, and you being so "new" to CP! --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 16:53, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

== Pleistocene ==

I see that you gave this a definition coming from "evolution". I would have put it down as a term from "geology". I don't want to edit it in case you think I pushing a POV. I would like to know what you think. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 12:23, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

== Sci-Tol ==

It's not possible - the article has been put in a deleted articles category or something to prevent subsequent re-creation. Dunno why, I guess they have their reasons.[[User:Fantomas|Fantomas]] 12:52, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

:I was just adding on that I saw you're a SYSOP. With a big "Ooops!" to go with it! :-) [[User:Fantomas|Fantomas]] 13:17, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

== test ==

[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Geo.]][[Conservapedia:Sysop|Site Sheriff]] 14:08, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
Site Sheriff(Sysop)[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Geo.]] 14:10, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

== Felicitaciones ==

GRACIAS

== Your template(s) ==

{{TemplateDocRqd|ClayPin|sysop=true|done=yes}}
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:58, 2 June 2007 (EDT)

*Yes, please ask me to delete it for you, or Philip, Geo...if your hands are broken! :p --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 06:04, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
:(The message previously said to ask a sysop to delete unwanted templates, but I've altered the message to no longer say that.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:34, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
*Yes, I saw the earlier ones, and got my humor in before you caught it! ;-) --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:19, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
Geo, thanks for putting them on the template list, but they also need to be documented on each template's page. I've done {{tl|ClayPin}} for you as an example, although I'm not sure of a couple of points, so please review that one as well. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:56, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

== AIM? ==

Aim! Please message. Read my posts there. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 13:33, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
:Apologies, but I am not near a IM client right now. I will hopefully be able to IM you when I get home in a few hours. Site Sheriff(Sysop)[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Geo.]] 21:53, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

::*Paint ball? ;-) I will forward on to you a recent email about all this. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 21:55, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

== blah ==

--[[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Geo.]][[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]] 17:49, 18 June 2007 (EDT)<center><big>Copyright Violations</big></center>

== Moon and the Times ==

This fact is clearly stated in our entry for the paper - why shouldn't it be in the Moon entry? [[User:Guitarplayer|Guitarplayer]] 21:02, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Sorry - my bad. [[User:Guitarplayer|Guitarplayer]] 21:03, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

== Uncyclopedia ==

Look, can you unlock the [[Uncyclopedia]] article? There's hardly anything on there and more is needed, but we can't edit it because you've protected it! Why did you protect it for? There's no reason to. Please unprotect '''Scorpion'''[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]] 18:54, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

When and if you make it back, Scorpion, Geo might be able to answer you, or not. This isn't WP. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 19:13, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

::Uh, I don't know what "When or if you make it back" means. I'm still on here. Any Geo, here's the material I'd like you to add:

''Uncyclopedia, despite being a parody of Wikipedia, supports much of the same material that Wikipedia does. They take an obviously liberal stance, and much of their humor is directed at Christian and Conservative values. In particular, their article on Conservapedia is composed mostly of hate speech, labelling Conservatives as "retards". In addition, they attack creationism via a "pro-creationist" article, which mocks creationism by phrases like "evolution will get you sent straight to hell" and "Darwin was a **** Satanist". At any rate, it is clear that Uncyclopedia hates Christians and creationism, and aims to destroy Conservativism.'' '''Scorpion'''[[User_Talk:Scorpion|Vote for Pedro]] 09:50, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

==Scorpio==

User:Scorpio has been blocked for one week for twice removing discussion page comments from RSchlafly'es page.

http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RSchlafly&diff=217145&oldid=216629

http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RSchlafly&diff=prev&oldid=217848

I believe we have evidence of a meatpuppet attack on me after a "chat" with TK. The removal of comments from RSchlafly's page were critical of TK.

http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TK&diff=prev&oldid=211850

Geoffrey, you can begin examination of the facts right here, and determine if User:Scorpio has become a meatpuppet of TK. TK offered to block Scorpio on the discussion list (available in the Search engine) and privately. Since the Conley email, it appears TK contacted Scorpio, and TK has further intiated other actions that have no transparency.

In the meantime, I await you forwarding me any and all transcripts of discussions on processes. Scorpio will remain blocked for information destruction from RSchlafly's page. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 19:41, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

:Geo, you're approved as our first judge for the contest. There will be additional judges also. Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:57, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

== Greetings, fellow judge! ==

Hi, Geo. I have accepted the team captains' appointment as a [[Conservapedia:Team contest|judge]].

Thus far, I've put in for the consideration of having our own namespace so that we can "retire to chambers" as we weigh the "evidence."--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 09:31, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Welcome, Geo, as a Judge! I've created a new namespace that only Judges can access. I can't even access it. You might create a page in it like [[Judges:Contest]] (note that I cannot even create that page).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:36, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

:Geo, as you can see, the [[Judges:Contest|chambers]] is now open. Thus far you and I are the only two Judges. I assume that that will soon change.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 13:47, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

== McCarthy mediation ==

Geo, I invite you over to the McCarthy Discussion page for a mediation issue that I'm hoping you can resolve. Thank you. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 22:56, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

:I agree 100%. The disturbing thing is that Rob removed this from the intro paragraph:

::''He was noted for claiming and subsequently proving that there were large numbers of Communists and Soviet spies and sympathizers inside the federal government.''

:It was fine the way it was but Rob changed it without discussion. I have no problem changing to what you suggested. How should we proceed? Do you want to make the change or me or Rob? Your call. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 23:22, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

:Ok, I'll do it but please be prepared to unblock me and the McCarthy page after Rob gets upset. :p [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 23:34, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

:Geoff, Rob has reverted the work I did as per your orders. I informed him that he is in contempt of your status as Mediator. I await your further instructions. Thank you. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 00:25, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

Geoff, thanks for making the change but there is an extra "period" in the new sentence so I'm going have to fix that. Also, I don't think there was a need for a new section for the "Moynihan" info since it's essentially related to the Venona info and should be included in that parapraph. Would you mind terribly if I simply reverted back to the latest changes which you authorized me to do last night? It would make the flow of the article more concise. I would appreciate that. Please let me know. Thank you. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:24, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

::The key word we need to place in the Intro is "conspiracy." For one half century (and still today) teachers in classrooms at all levels, junior high school through Graduate School, maintain McCarthy was a right-wing paranoid conspiracy theorist whose crusades produced nothing. The U.S Government Secrecy Commission in its Final Report in 1995 gave McCarthy a clean bill of health with "The first fact is, there was a conspiracy..."

::So, we have two statements. Scorpio has inserted extensive quotes from what is commonly known as McCarthy's "conspiracy of infamy so black" speech, which needs to be contrasted with the exoneration from the Secrecy Commission findings.

::A big concern I have with Venona documents is, that in no way they be misrepresented to say something other than what they say. Hence, we need to place exoneration from the Secrecy Commission in the Intro, and not represent Venona as something other than what it is.[[User:RobS|RobS]] 10:28, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

:::Rob, again, you refuse to address MOS which forbids what you propose. The new intro as placed by Geo does in fact do what you say needs to be done without going into elaborate detail. The detail is in the appropriate sub-section. The current format is more in line with MOS than what you had there before and does the job adequately. The only thing I suggest is that the new section be changed from "Declassified Soviet Files" to "Declassified Soviet files & McCarthy vindication". There are still many things that need to be done to this article in order to present pertinent info but as you may have noticed, I have stopped adding anything further until these ridiculously simple matters are resolved. I've got lots of great stuff to add but we are getting bogged down in procedure. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 15:33, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

::::I'm involved with the contest right now (as Geo is too), so I haven't really been able to engage all that needs to be discussed. As per the MOS, I need to discuss with the MOS author what historiography of dead persons vs bios living polticians should be, because that recommended format you cite is intended for living persons.

::::As to the substance of "conspiracy', this is in keeping with your original idea in the opening which was edited out, "subsequently proving"; McCarthy didn't prove conspiracy, but the Secrecy Commission did. As to the new subtitle, we should probably discuss the overall structure once I'm available after the contest is over, cause I'm a bit uneasy about putting ==Venona== under ==US Senate==. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:46, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

== Full IP address? ==

I am concerned about the publishing of the full IP address of users. Does this conflict with [[Conservapedia:Privacy policy]]. Is [[Conservapedia:Shame]] in conflict with sharing private information with the world? I am not sure if that page is what is being used to report vandalism to the authorities. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 17:54, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

*There is no expectation of privacy on the Internet, we are constantly told. Also, an IP address doesn't narrow down a user's location to such a point where they are easily identified anyway. So what is this concern? Is someone forced to come here and vandalize? Please stop with the Red Herrings. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 18:14, 13 July 2007 (EDT)

== contest ==

Who is winning at this time? Or are you not allowed to say? [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 01:12, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

*It is sad, is it not, that you don't have anything funny in your signature, no? --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:20, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
:Me? [[User:Geo.plrd|Geo.]][[User_talk:Geo.plrd|Complain!]] 01:21, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

:*No, the other, he should have something fun in it....I am thinking. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:22, 18 July 2007 (EDT)
::Click here for ban!

Hahaha! But I can unblock myself! :P --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 01:35, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

==Scores==

Just wondering if you know and could tell me the final scores of Team1 and Team2...Aschlafly and I are trying to figure out how close we came, and it would be a lot easier to just have the final numbers! Thanks, [[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 17:42, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

:Thanks for the response! And yes, Aschlafly definitly deserves that honor...he was on constantly contributing for his team! [[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 23:27, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

== categorizing articles ==

Hi! :)

Thanks for adding a new article. Please, though, categorize your articles when you create them; while there are those of us who will go through and clean-up the uncategorized articles, you know your subject better than we do.

For a list of categories, go here: [[Special:Categories]]. To add a category to your article, type two open brackets, then "category:" followed by the category you want. Just add two closed brackets and you're done! You can add as many categories as you feel are appropriate. Thanks! [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 20:41, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

*Geoffrey is on vacation, so just let me know what is needed. Thanks. --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 21:23, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

:I categorized the article for him; this is just a boilerplate reminder I leave people to help encourage them to categorize their own stuff. I don't necessarily mind doing it, but often times the author will have a better idea of the appropriate category than I will. Das all. [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 21:29, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

*Actually, they usually have a worse idea of where to put it than you do, but hey, I understand your tact. --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 23:16, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

:Well yes, exactly. ;) I could be hit by a bus or something... [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 10:44, 17 August 2007 (EDT) ''<-look out!!!''

Well, "accidents" do happen.....[[Image:Schoolbusaccident3_011907.jpg‎ ]]

--[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 22:19, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

== New McCarthy article block ==

Geo, is there any way that you can arrange it so that these blocks do not prevent me from working on the McCarthhy article? I realize that the the newest block was put into place to protect against vandals but unfortunately this also affects my ability to add to the article and I don't think my additions are an issue. Can you please work with me to find a solution to this matter? I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 10:30, 2 September 2007 (EDT)

:Geo, one thing that would be great is if changes and edits to the McCarthy article be limited to those done by SysOps. Which would require me to ask if someone would please elevate me to that level. Any thoughts on that? [[User:Scorpio|Scorpio]] 13:50, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

== Flanders role on McCarthy Page ==

The talk page is locked on the [[Joseph McCarthy]] page. So, it's difficult to address any issues pertaining to the page. To wit, there are unsubstatiated statements ''in italics'' referring to Senator Flanders's initiative to censure the Senator from Wisconsin:

:While, over the past few years, Senator McCarthy withstood countless biased and unsubstantiated attacks by Liberals, Communists, etc., the organized effort to remove McCarthy from his Chairmanship and officially condemn him began in the Spring of 1954. It was started by fellow Republican Senator Ralph E. Flanders of Vermont ''at the behest of a coalition of Communists, Liberals, and Eisenhower Administration officials''. Flanders told the Senate that McCarthy's "anti-Communism so completely parallels that of Adolf Hitler as to strike fear into the hearts of any defenseless minority"; accused McCarthy of spreading "division and confusion" and saying, "Were the Junior Senator from Wisconsin in the pay of the Communists he could not have done a better job for them."[97] ''Flanders had obtained his list of charges against McCarthy from a left-wing group named the National Committee for an Effective Congress.''

The citable literature suggests that Flanders felt that McCarthy's emphasis on possible Communists within our borders distracted us from a much greater menace of Communist encroachment abroad. The literature shows Flanders to be a conservative marching to his own drummer and not supported (except for one note from Eisenhower after his March speech) by the administration. Given Flanders's professed enmity towards the Roosevelt administration, it is remarkable to suggest that he would be in collaboration with the National Committee for an Effective Congress. Instead, he consulted with Senators Cooper and Fulbright to develop articles of censure that were consistent with previous actions.

I request that the italicized statements be either deleted or substantiated with proper references.

[[User:Norwich]] 10/21/07

*I demand you post to the main editor there, [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]. If you do not, I will block you for being a coward. --[[User:TK|şŷŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 17:44, 21 October 2007 (EDT)

*My goodness, a little friendly advice would have sufficed before threatening a new member with names. I have followed your helpful advice. Sincerely, [[User:Norwich|Norwich]] 13:57, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Geo.plrd

2007-10-21T21:30:46Z

Norwich: /* Flanders role on McCarthy Page */ Added signature.

User:Norwich

2007-10-15T17:02:42Z

Norwich: New page

I'm interested in Vermont political history, especially those relating to Springfield, Vermont.

{{Useful links}}

User talk:Geo.plrd

2007-10-15T13:37:00Z

Norwich: Flanders role on McCarthy Page