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Talk:PZ Myers

2011-06-23T06:29:41Z

Prichert: /* Why do we care about this guy? */

== PZ fans whitewashed the Wikipedia article ==

Many of the regular outrageously hateful and bigoted remarks PZ has made about religion and the religious (primarily Christianity and Christians) were removed by the atheistic, pro-evolution cabal on Wikipedia. I intend to add them here. If any of the atheistic, pro-evolution members of Conservapedia have a problem with that, please make your objections known here. Please refrain from trying to argue "quote mining," because presenting a handful of his numerous, regular rants against religion and the religious is hardly quote mining. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 13:55, 5 March 2008 (EST)

== Debate Section ==
I listened to Simmons/Myers debate on You Tube. Myers provided numerous examples of whale evolution that Simmons admitted he was unfamiliar with. In fact, Simmons based his entire premise of the alleged lack of whale evolution on his lack of knowledge. Listen to the debate at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvtgcMu2jg]. Myers also stated at the end of the debate that he was willing to attend and participate in another debate with any creationist[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIeoe9hUV5c]. In light of this information, I feel that the Debating section should be changed to reflect these facts.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 15:38, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Having listened to the debate I have to agree with the above regarding the section on whale evolution. Listen to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxmCINg8ng] at about 2:10 and again at 5:30 in.

You can agree or disagree with Myers or evolution but it's better for Conservapedia to be accurate, especially when it's so easy to check. --[[User:Boreas|Boreas]] [[User_Talk:Boreas|'''talk''']] 17:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
: I don't agree with everything that NormaN said, but neither was the article correct, so I've removed much of that section. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:34, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

I would expect mostly negative comments about PZ Myers in an article from Conservapedia; but the weight issue(?), is this serious? Do you expect people, or at least people outside your own little circle, to take you serious when you harp on and on that he is overweight? Are there no overweight Christians? Does being overweight affect his beliefs? Does it affect Christian belief? Has anyone correlated belief with body fat percentage? Is this normal for a site that believes it is the more truthful and rational site on the web?

== Misspelled Myers' name==

Whoever wrote this article was, apparently, too retarded to even spell the man's name correctly in all instances. Which is precisely what I'd have expected of this outfit. {{unsigned|Quaylefan68}}
: I've fixed one. Any more? Oops, you can't say just yet, because I've just blocked you for rudeness. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:47, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

==Direct links==

Direct link on Pharyngula blog to Conservapedia. This proves false the accusation that Conservapedia is not linked to on Pharyngula's website. [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/i_should_add_these_to_my_cv.php] Edit needed.

:If you read the article correctly, PZ did not ban himself from linking to Conservapedia. No edit needed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinx McHue]] 11:17, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

:To wit, [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/conservapdia_has_a_new_project.php this reference from the article], where PZ states: ''"A while back, we had some serious problems with spamming by the Conservapædia cretins, and I had to put the word "conservapedia" into the filter file. You can't use that word or your comment will get blocked! That means you won't be able to link directly to Conservapædia."'' Supposedly, this infuriates us. In reality, we find it extremely humorous in how ridiculous it is. PZ is paranoid and conservaphobic. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinx McHue]] 16:55, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== PZ Myers has yet to offer any scholarly works concerning the murderous atheist regimes.... ==

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that that might be the case because Professor Myers is a biologust and not a historian. After all, he has not offered any '''scholarly''' critiques of religion, either--the blogs hardly count as scholarship, and not even Myers would suggest they do. [[User:KevinO|KevinO]] 20:33, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: Your argument makes the line even more valid. Myers don't know what he is talking about in most fields exept squids. [[User:AlainDion|AlainDion]] 22:40, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Does PZ Myers go out on a limb and publicly make assertions outside of biology concerning Christianity and religion in general? Is PZ Myers a public advocate of atheism and not just evolutionary "science"? If so, I think it is certainly fair to take him to task on these matters. It certainly appears there are atheists who want PZ Myers to be free to push atheism, but have none of the attendant responsibilities that comes with this matter such as actually defending atheism with reasonable arguments. By the way, if any atheist wants to provide actual evidence that atheism is true that would certainly be a first at Conservapedia and I certainly don't expect this to occur. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 00:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

== YouTube Christians ==

I have a suspicion that some YouTube Christians are going to like the recent additions to the Conservapedia PZ Myers article. Perhaps, some videos are going to be made. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 01:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

== Why do we care about this guy? ==

Some of this is very funny, but I don't know why this guy is a such a big deal. Frankly it looks silly and petty to be so obsessed with him. It really is an abundant source of humor, I agree, but it does take away from the credibility of the site. [[User:KingHanksley|KingHanksley]] 15:07, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::[[Atheism and obesity]] is a weighty topic and number of articles and satires have been posted at Conservapedia some of which have featured PZ Myers. Also, although it is certainly possible that PZ Myers could become a great aficionado of [[Nutritional science|nutritional science]], [[exercise science]] and [[medical science]] in the future, given his penchant for publicly endorsing evolutionary quackery this regrettably might not occur. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 15:47, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
::So once again, is there an actual study done that correlates atheism with a higher rate of obesity? There was a study done by state which correlated the highest religious states with the highest obesity (mostly in the south), though there is strong reason to believe the correlation has nothing to do with the cause. But you seem to be suggesting the opposite. So is there any data behind this assertion?

== [[PZ Myers#Myers and Conservapedia|spamming]] ==

I believe that Myers was complaining of ''link'' spamming. This is when someone repeatedly posts links of their site in an attempt to raise their Google search ranking. He bans any ''links'' to Conservapedia, to render this practice futile.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 00:30, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
::I wasn't aware that in addition to [[Essay: Professor PZ Myers fails his applied biology course|being an applied biology expert]], he is a Google marketing expert. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 22:15, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::It's common knowledge that the Google search engine returns results based on PageRank, which is an algorithm based on the number of links to a site, and the importance of the sites linking to it. Myers has a [[Atheism and obesity|significant presence]] online, so there's little doubt he's aware of how Google functions. I would suggest you remove that portion from the article, or unprotect it that I may remove it myself. --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 22:29, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::I am sorry, your post seems to be a joke. I just clicked the words significant presence and now I get the joke. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 06:09, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

== Typo needs fixing please ==
<nowiki> The fourth word in the section "PZ and Militant Atheism" should be "a" not "an". I know it's a minor edit, but the page is locked, so i figured I'd point it out so someone with the editing rights can fix it. Thanks!</nowiki> --[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 01:49, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 22:13, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

Talk:PZ Myers

2011-06-23T06:18:02Z

Prichert: /* Debate Section */

== PZ fans whitewashed the Wikipedia article ==

Many of the regular outrageously hateful and bigoted remarks PZ has made about religion and the religious (primarily Christianity and Christians) were removed by the atheistic, pro-evolution cabal on Wikipedia. I intend to add them here. If any of the atheistic, pro-evolution members of Conservapedia have a problem with that, please make your objections known here. Please refrain from trying to argue "quote mining," because presenting a handful of his numerous, regular rants against religion and the religious is hardly quote mining. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 13:55, 5 March 2008 (EST)

== Debate Section ==
I listened to Simmons/Myers debate on You Tube. Myers provided numerous examples of whale evolution that Simmons admitted he was unfamiliar with. In fact, Simmons based his entire premise of the alleged lack of whale evolution on his lack of knowledge. Listen to the debate at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMvtgcMu2jg]. Myers also stated at the end of the debate that he was willing to attend and participate in another debate with any creationist[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIeoe9hUV5c]. In light of this information, I feel that the Debating section should be changed to reflect these facts.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 15:38, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Having listened to the debate I have to agree with the above regarding the section on whale evolution. Listen to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxmCINg8ng] at about 2:10 and again at 5:30 in.

You can agree or disagree with Myers or evolution but it's better for Conservapedia to be accurate, especially when it's so easy to check. --[[User:Boreas|Boreas]] [[User_Talk:Boreas|'''talk''']] 17:16, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
: I don't agree with everything that NormaN said, but neither was the article correct, so I've removed much of that section. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:34, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

I would expect mostly negative comments about PZ Myers in an article from Conservapedia; but the weight issue(?), is this serious? Do you expect people, or at least people outside your own little circle, to take you serious when you harp on and on that he is overweight? Are there no overweight Christians? Does being overweight affect his beliefs? Does it affect Christian belief? Has anyone correlated belief with body fat percentage? Is this normal for a site that believes it is the more truthful and rational site on the web?

== Misspelled Myers' name==

Whoever wrote this article was, apparently, too retarded to even spell the man's name correctly in all instances. Which is precisely what I'd have expected of this outfit. {{unsigned|Quaylefan68}}
: I've fixed one. Any more? Oops, you can't say just yet, because I've just blocked you for rudeness. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:47, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

==Direct links==

Direct link on Pharyngula blog to Conservapedia. This proves false the accusation that Conservapedia is not linked to on Pharyngula's website. [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/05/i_should_add_these_to_my_cv.php] Edit needed.

:If you read the article correctly, PZ did not ban himself from linking to Conservapedia. No edit needed. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinx McHue]] 11:17, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

:To wit, [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/conservapdia_has_a_new_project.php this reference from the article], where PZ states: ''"A while back, we had some serious problems with spamming by the Conservapædia cretins, and I had to put the word "conservapedia" into the filter file. You can't use that word or your comment will get blocked! That means you won't be able to link directly to Conservapædia."'' Supposedly, this infuriates us. In reality, we find it extremely humorous in how ridiculous it is. PZ is paranoid and conservaphobic. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinx McHue]] 16:55, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== PZ Myers has yet to offer any scholarly works concerning the murderous atheist regimes.... ==

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that that might be the case because Professor Myers is a biologust and not a historian. After all, he has not offered any '''scholarly''' critiques of religion, either--the blogs hardly count as scholarship, and not even Myers would suggest they do. [[User:KevinO|KevinO]] 20:33, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: Your argument makes the line even more valid. Myers don't know what he is talking about in most fields exept squids. [[User:AlainDion|AlainDion]] 22:40, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Does PZ Myers go out on a limb and publicly make assertions outside of biology concerning Christianity and religion in general? Is PZ Myers a public advocate of atheism and not just evolutionary "science"? If so, I think it is certainly fair to take him to task on these matters. It certainly appears there are atheists who want PZ Myers to be free to push atheism, but have none of the attendant responsibilities that comes with this matter such as actually defending atheism with reasonable arguments. By the way, if any atheist wants to provide actual evidence that atheism is true that would certainly be a first at Conservapedia and I certainly don't expect this to occur. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 00:41, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

== YouTube Christians ==

I have a suspicion that some YouTube Christians are going to like the recent additions to the Conservapedia PZ Myers article. Perhaps, some videos are going to be made. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 01:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

== Why do we care about this guy? ==

Some of this is very funny, but I don't know why this guy is a such a big deal. Frankly it looks silly and petty to be so obsessed with him. It really is an abundant source of humor, I agree, but it does take away from the credibility of the site. [[User:KingHanksley|KingHanksley]] 15:07, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::[[Atheism and obesity]] is a weighty topic and number of articles and satires have been posted at Conservapedia some of which have featured PZ Myers. Also, although it is certainly possible that PZ Myers could become a great aficionado of [[Nutritional science|nutritional science]], [[exercise science]] and [[medical science]] in the future, given his penchant for publicly endorsing evolutionary quackery this regrettably might not occur. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 15:47, 21 May 2011 (EDT)

== [[PZ Myers#Myers and Conservapedia|spamming]] ==

I believe that Myers was complaining of ''link'' spamming. This is when someone repeatedly posts links of their site in an attempt to raise their Google search ranking. He bans any ''links'' to Conservapedia, to render this practice futile.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 00:30, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
::I wasn't aware that in addition to [[Essay: Professor PZ Myers fails his applied biology course|being an applied biology expert]], he is a Google marketing expert. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 22:15, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::It's common knowledge that the Google search engine returns results based on PageRank, which is an algorithm based on the number of links to a site, and the importance of the sites linking to it. Myers has a [[Atheism and obesity|significant presence]] online, so there's little doubt he's aware of how Google functions. I would suggest you remove that portion from the article, or unprotect it that I may remove it myself. --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 22:29, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::I am sorry, your post seems to be a joke. I just clicked the words significant presence and now I get the joke. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 06:09, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

== Typo needs fixing please ==
<nowiki> The fourth word in the section "PZ and Militant Atheism" should be "a" not "an". I know it's a minor edit, but the page is locked, so i figured I'd point it out so someone with the editing rights can fix it. Thanks!</nowiki> --[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 01:49, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::Thanks. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 22:13, 12 June 2011 (EDT)