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Fred Phelps

2011-08-25T12:44:23Z

ProblemChild:

<nowiki>[[Image:Phelps.jpg|right|thumb|Fred Phelps giving an interview in 2000]]'''Fred Waldron Phelps''' is [[pastor]] of the independent [[Westboro Baptist Church]], an extremist organization not affiliated with mainstream [[Baptist]] churches, and is a controversial activist against [[homosexual]] behavior. Phelps is noted for rallies displaying signs with highly inflammatory and [[extremist]] statements. This has classified the church as a hate group by various organizations. <ref>[http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/586891.html Counterdemonstrators drive off hate group in Flight 3407 protest] The Buffalo News, February 22, 2009</ref> He is said to hold a "[[Hyper-Calvinism|hyper-Calvinistic]] viewpoint" generally regarded as far outside of mainstream Christianity by most Christian scholars. Most of the congregants of the Westboro Baptist Church, which is located in [[Topeka]], [[Kansas]], are related to Phelps either by blood or marriage.

Phelps has openly denounced the [[Catholic Church]] and [[Episcopal Church]] and has made claims these religious organizations tolerate and harbor homosexuals and pedophiles. He has also referred to a variety of political figures as "fag-enablers", ranging from Republican Presidents [[Ronald Reagan]]. [[George W. Bush]] to Democrats such as [[Howard Dean]]. Phelps is a vehement critic of [[Dick Cheney]]. [http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8194338250744686470&q#] His views are rejected by the majority of [[conservative]] [[Christian]]s; [[evangelical]] leader [[Jerry Falwell]] referred to him as a "first-class nut"<ref>http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/stories/102498_protests.shtml</ref>.

Phelps has led protests at military funerals based on his belief that America is a country that harbors homosexuals and is thus evil. As a result, President [[George W. Bush]] signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act, which places limitations on protests at military funerals. These demonstrations led to the formation of the [[Patriot Guard]], an organization of motorcyclists who attend military funerals in order to shield the families of the deceased from the protests by members of Phelps's Westboro Baptist Church.<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-09-13-funeral-protests_x.htm Funeral protesters say laws can't silence them], By Charlie Riedel, Associated Press, July 2006. Retrieved from USA Today October 14, 2007.</ref> Phelps is represented by the [[American Civil Liberties Union]] (ACLU).<ref>[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html ACLU Sues for Anti-Gay Group That Pickets at Troops' Burials], By Garance Burke, Associated Press, July 23, 2006; Page A02. Retrieved from the ''[[Washington Post]]'' October 14, 2007.</ref>

Phelps has been an active contributor to the [[Democratic Party]] and was an enthusiastic supporter of [[Al Gore]] for President in 1988,<ref>http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1999/03/lauerman.html</ref> calling Gore "the icon of the conservative faction of the Democratic Party."<ref> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20001104/ai_n11753681 </ref> Phelps's son, Fred Phelps, Jr., served as a delegate for Gore. <ref>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15559</ref> In 1992 Phelps supported [[Bill Clinton]] for president and later became critical of President Clinton's pandering for gay voters. Phelps led a demonstration at the 1997 Clinton inaugural. <ref> http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={91058469-F6DE-4615-8B2A-73CDF3E8FCAC} </ref><ref> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20001104/ai_n11753681 </ref>

== Phelps' Criticism of Religious Leaders ==

Phelps runs several websites on the internet which preach against [[homosexuality]] and immoral living. Phelps espouses a skewed version of his own "literal" interpretation of the [[Bible]] and the holy scriptures, and speaks against mainstream religious and Christian leaders who, in his view, distort or twist the literal interpretation of the Bible. Phelps also speaks for greater accountability for religious organizations, such as the Catholic Church, and has been vocal in the press and media concerning the abuse of young boys by Catholic priests and church leaders, and practicing homosexuals in the Episcopal Church.

== Phelps and the Democratic party==
[[Image:20001025 xnjdo FredGoreFiny.jpg|thumb|240px|right|Rev. [[Fred Phelps]] with future Vice President and [[Nobel Peace Prize]] winner [[Al Gore]] at a Westboro Baptist Church event.]]
Phelps ran for governor of [[Kansas]] as a [[Democrat]] in 1990, 1994, and 1998.<ref name="ref4">[http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/05/kansas.results/ 1998 Kansas Primary Results. Compiled by Congressional Quarterly.]</ref> Phelps received 31% of the vote in Kansas's 1992 Democratic Party primary for [[U.S. Senate]].<ref>[http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_statistics.html State of Kansas Secretary of State Website]</ref> In 1993 Phelps ran for mayor of [[Topeka]]. and 1997. <ref>[http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21229 The "God Hates Fags" [[Left]]], By Mark D. Tooley, FrontPageMagazine.com, February 09, 2006.</ref><ref>[http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1128/kansas-anti-gay-church-embarrasses-topekans Kansas anti-gay church embarrasses Topekans], November 7, 2002. Retrieved from ReligionNewsBlog.com, October 11, 2007.</ref> He supported [[Al Gore]] in the 1988 primaries. Phelp's support of Al Gore took an irrational U-turn in 1998 when he picketed the funeral of Al Gore's father<ref>http://www.religionnewsblog.com/13170/pastor-who-takes-pride-in-hate-traces-the-emotion-to-bible</ref>. Phelps has been an extremely vocal critic of [[President George W. Bush]] and former Vice President [[Dick Cheney]], calling Bush "A Bible pervert." Of the Cheney family Phelps said, "They know the iniquity they’ve wrought, but they’re not at all ashamed of it...God hates the Cheney's.<ref>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8194338250744686470#</ref>

== Phelps and Saddam Hussein ==

In 1997, upset about [[United States]] sanctions on [[Iraq]], Phelps wrote a letter to [[Saddam Hussein]] that read, in part, ''We understand that Iraq is the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets without fear of arrest and prosecution. Alas, the United States no longer allows the Gospel to be freely and openly preached on the streets, because militant sodomites now control our government, and they violently object to the Bible message.'' <ref>http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/wbc_on_america.asp</ref> He requested, and received, permission from Saddam Hussein to visit Iraq. <ref>http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={91058469-F6DE-4615-8B2A-73CDF3E8FCAC}</ref> In 2006 when Saddam Hussein was executed Phelps said Saddam was in hell for practicing the Muslim faith.

== Phelps and activism ==
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Phelps announced that he and his group would picket the funeral service of actor [[Heath Ledger]].

In February 2009, Phelps' group announced that they would travel to the [[United Kingdom]] to protest in [[Basingstoke]] against a gay-themed play called [[The Laramie Project]], based on the murder of [[Matthew Shepard]].
However, the British Foreign Secretary [[Jacqui Smith]] later announced on February 19th that they would be barred from entering the country as the group "engaged in unacceptable behaviour by inciting hatred against a number of communities". Phelps' group later responded with a message on their website GodHatesFags.com stating:

"You British Bastards will not have Jesus Christ to rule over you, and think you can issue bans and pass laws to remove God’s word from the landscape. You do greatly err, not knowing the power of God; and, you do that against your own interests. It is a great kindness to have God’s prophets in your land. But, you ungrateful brutes despise knowledge. It is too late for the UK. God Hates You! God’s wrath and destruction is all that’s left for you, thanks to Secretary Smith."<ref>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-11226.html</ref>

Despite efforts by [[leftist]]s to link Phelps to the Religious Right, Phelps refers to Christian conservatives as "Lukewarm cowards. Modern day Pharisees. People who have gone a whoring after strange gods. Self-righteous hypocrites. They spend more time harrassing people who are preaching the Gospel than anything else, just like the Pharisees did to Jesus." Phelps preaching has much in common with the Reverend [[Jeremiah Wright]]. Phelps also says God hates liberals refering too them as "the modern day Saduccees" and that they are the ultimate evil.<ref>http://www.godhatesfags.com/faq.html#Right</ref>

===Lawsuits===

*Phelps and his congregation were recently sued by Albert Snyder, the father of a soldier killed in Iraq. Phelps and his congregation protested the Iraq War at his son's funeral. The father sued for defamation over Phelps' statement: "Mr. Snyder raised his son for the devil and hell," during the funeral protest and in statements on his website. A federal jury in Baltimore awarded him nearly $11 million in a verdict against the church; Mr. Snyder won on every count of his complaint, receiving $2.9 million for compensatory damages and $8 million for punitive damages.

*Phelps has also been threatened with prosecution by the Canadian Government for alleged hate speech in Canada for preaching what he has stated are the literal teachings of the Bible against homosexuality.<ref>[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15559 Gore sought help from anti-homosexual group], 'God hates fags' creator preaches 'hate because the Bible preaches hate', By Jon E. Dougherty, ''WorldNetDaily.com'', October 25, 2000.</ref>
*Already picketing daily in Topeka, the Phelpses began to shower faxes on the community, targeting business and political leaders they disagreed with. After Topeka councilwoman Beth Mechler publicly doubted Phelps' claims that wild [[gay sex]] was occurring in Gage Park, Phelps responded with an insulting fax.

==Criticism of Phelps==
Criticism of Phelps has been virtually universal within both the conservative and liberal movements. The Reverend [[Jerry Falwell]] has called Phelps "a first class nut". <ref>http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/stories/102498_protests.shtml</ref> Illinois Family Institute Executive Director Peter LaBarbera said "Fred Phelps' curious message is hardly Christian, and only fuels societal bigotry toward those who espouse genuine Biblical views on social issues like homosexuality and abortion," <ref>http://www.eleventh-avenue-south.com/archives/2005/08/fred_phelps_a_p.html</ref>

Phelps was also cited during Canadian deliberations<ref>http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/dec/07121806.html</ref> about declaring anti-gay sentiments to be a hate crime.

==Quotes==
Reasons why people call Phelps “hateful”:

*”Bloody-Knife Bombastic Big Mouth Bastard Beast Obama is going to change times and laws; we have the word of God for that fact. He will do this by his charismatic smooth forked tongue, as he’s highly skilled in the art of telling people what they want to hear. The people of this nation are in terror, at God’s hand, afraid for their future, in distress and crisis, and afraid of many unnamed enemies. Germany was stinging and laboring under financial hardship, including punishing reparations from World War I. Hitler tapped into their national pride and need for financial stability to come to power. Also like Germany, this nation has weak legislative and judicial branches. Hitler was able to quickly seize power and strip the German legislative branch of any ability to curtail him. The Congress of doomed America is full of pandering cowards; they will be putty in Beast Obama’s hands, afraid to oppose him because of the “mandate” he has from the raging masses. The cowardly congress members have no stability or moral compass, so they are subject to the whim of the people. They’ll cave like a cheap deck of cards while Obama cleverly and masterfully plays the people like banjos, to get what he wants.” Phelps on beastobama.com launched in early 2009<ref>[http://www.beatobama.com Beat Obama website</ref>

*”God hates America, and those calamities last Tuesday [September 11, 2001] are none other than the wrath of God, smiting fag America... That wasn't any accident. That wasn't any coincidence. There's only America to blame for those tragedies.”
:“How many do you suppose of those hundred (sic) and thirty soldiers died (sic) in the Pentagon last Tuesday were fags and dykes? And how many do you suppose were working in that massively composed building structure called those two World Trade Center buildings, Twin Towers? There were five thousand or ten thousand killed and, counting all those passengers in those airplanes, it's very likely that every last single one of them was a fag or dyke or a fag enabler, and that the minute he died, he split hell wide open, and the way to analyze the situation is that the Lord God Almighty, pursuant to His threatenings and warnings, killed him, looked him in the face, laughed and mocked at each one of them as He cast each one of them into Hell!... God hates America, and God demonstrated that hatred to some modest degree only last Tuesday -- sent in those bombers, those hellacious 767 Boeing bombers, and it was a glorious sight. What you need to do is see in those flames -- those sickening, twisting, burning, life-destroying flames, brightly shining from every television set around the world! You need to see in those flames a little preview of the flames of Hell that are going to soon engulf you, my friend. Burn your soul forever!” September 14, 2001<ref>[http://www.signmovies.net/videos/news/index.html Phelps on Sept. 11 attacks]</ref>

*”Same-sex marriage, by any name, civil union or otherwise, is the ultimate smashed-mouth in-your-face insult to God Almighty, and you think He's going to let England and America and the rest of this evil world get by with it? God Almighty has not joined fags in holy wedlock. God no longer keeps America safe. America is doomed. We're getting the pants beat off of us, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. God is now America's terrorist, that's who Bush is fighting, that's the terrorist that he best be afraid of. You tweaked His nose, you jackass, you tweaked His nose! God put it in your wicked heart to start that war. That's the message we've got at the funerals of these dead soldiers. God duped you into starting a war, so He could punish you. And any preacher preaching it any other way is a lying hell-bound false prophet. So almost eighteen months now and the siege has got people eating their babies, and their small children, and each other! You're gonna eat your babies! God Himself duped Bush into a no-win war, and He did that by the technique of putting a lying spirit in the mouth of all his trusted advisers, to punish America.” Phelps on April 1, 2007<ref>[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1000764/ Phelps on war, same-sex marriage, gays]</ref>

*”The Lord sent a world-class whopper of a massacre to Virginia Tech, killing thirty-three, drawing headlines like 'Shocked!', 'Horrified!', 'The worst massacre in US history!'. Well, we wish you were thirty-three thousand killed, but we are thankful to our Father for thirty-three.” Phelps on April 23, 2007<ref>[http://www.signmovies.net/videos/news/index.html Phelps on Virginia Tech massacre]</ref>

*”Canada is a filthy country run by fags, which has Draconian laws making it a crime to preach the Gospel there. All of these cowardly kissy-poo preachers who telecast their milquetoast sermons into Canada have to edit out every single word critical of fags -- snip, snip, snip -- or the fag officials of Canada will arrest and criminally prosecute the Canadian affiliates, and shut down their stations! There's no freedom of speech in Canada. There's no freedom of religion in Canada. It is against the law to read the Bible in Canada.... Our church has had a lot of bad dealings with those demon-possessed Canadians! A big Canadian flag flies at our church upside-down, the international symbol of distress. We fly it day and night, to educate and warn people about the fagi-nazi regime just to the north of us. Canadians are afraid of their tyrannical fag-run government. You can determine for yourself about Canada, and keep as far away from them as you can.” Phelps on July 31, 2008<ref>[http://www.signmovies.net/videos/news/index.html Phelps on Canada]</ref>

*”We understand that Iraq is the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets without fear of arrest and prosecution. Alas, the United States no longer allows the Gospel to be freely and openly preached on the streets, because militant sodomites now control our government, and they violently object to the Bible message...The same majoritarian sodomite tyranny that now guides the Clinton administration's repressive policies toward Gospel preaching on America's streets, is apparently responsible — at least in part — for the merciless slaughter by starvation of 400 innocent Iraqi babies each day in your country. If our government and laws will allow it, and at the invitation of your government, we would like to send a delegation from Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, to preach the Gospel on the streets of Baghdad for one week in the near future.” Phelps’ November 30, 1997 letter to Saddam Hussein.<ref>[http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/print.asp Phelps’ letter to Saddam Hussein]</ref>

*”In our experience, no modern country is more repressive of human rights than the U.S.A. The vaunted First Amendment is nothing but empty words on paper...we will journey to China at our expense, and tell our story of modern American repression of human rights, upon invitation.” Fred Phelps, demanding permission to picket in the People's Republic of China, February 26, 1997.<ref>[http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/print.asp Phelps on China, U.S.A. and human rights]</ref>

*”Mr. Rogers gave aid and comfort to homosexuals. He was a man who preached tolerance of all sorts of people in ways that directly contradicted the Bible. His syrupy teachings led millions astray. He was a wuss and he was an enabler of wusses.” Phelps on March 2003.<ref>[http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/20030307tony107col2p2.asp Phelps on Mr. Rogers]</ref>

*”You are a Bible pervert, [President George W.] Bush! And I knew it, the minute you hired that fag Scott Evertz to run your White House and told Rumsfeld to hire that fag [Stephen] Herbits, to screen all the applicants for employment to the Pentagon.” Phelps on September 14, 2001 <ref>[http://www.signmovies.net/videos/news/index.html Phelps’ tirade toward President Bush]</ref>.

*”Whatever righteous cause the Jewish victims of the 1930s-40s Nazi Holocaust had, (probably miniscule, compared to the Jewish Holocausts against Middle Passage Blacks, African Americans and Christians -- including the bloody persecution of Westboro Baptist Church by Topeka Jews in the 1990s), has been drowned in sodomite semen. American taxpayers are financing this unholy monument to Jewish mendacity and greed and to filthy fag lust…Homosexuals and Jews dominated Nazi Germany…just as they now dominate this doomed U.S.A. … The Jews now wander the earth despised, smitten with moral and spiritual blindness by a divine judicial stroke…And god has smitten Jews with a certain unique madness, whereby they are an astonishment of heart, a proverb, and a byword (the butt of jokes and ridicule) among all peoples whither the Lord has driven and scattered them…Jews, thus perverted, out of all proportion to their numbers energize the militant sodomite agenda…The American Jews are the real Nazis (misusers and abusers of governmental power) who hate God and the rule of law.” WBC news release, December 26, 1996<ref>[http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/WBC-on-Jews.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC Phelps on Jewish people]</ref>

*Fred Phelps believes that [[Barack Obama]] is the Antichrist. According to Phelps, we are living in the end of days and Obama will form an Unholy Trinity with the [[Catholic Church]] and [[Satan]].<ref>[http://www.beastobama.com/unholytrinity/index.html Phelps on the Antichrist and Unholy Trinity]</ref>

== Outside links ==
*[http://blank.org/addict/ Addicted to Hate: the story of Fred Phelps]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOrz5k0jWdU The Most Hated Family In America]
*[http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8194338250744686470# Fred Phelps' Unhinged Video Message to the Cheneys]
*[http://www.adl.org/poisoning_web/homophobia.asp Poisoning the Web: Hatred Online], Anti-Defamation League (2001). Retrieved 05/23/07.
*[http://www.godhatesfredphelps.com/ God Hates Fred Phelps], Retrieved from http://www.godhatesfredphelps.com/ October 25, 2007.
*[http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8682089528957352638&ei=YB-PSa6HCYbi2gKtgPnCCw&q=fred+phelps+jerry+falwell&hl=en Phelps denouncing] [[Jerry Falwell]] after his death.

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User talk:SeanS

2011-08-25T12:43:03Z

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<nowiki>Hi there.

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You sure you don't support Obama? Your comments :re the oil reserves have me perplexed. [[User:HP|HP]] 19:07, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

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As I have told a couple of users, instead of taking sides lets all work together to find a solution and avoid blaming and negative comments. It gets us nowhere and we need to move forward. Thanks and I hope we can work together. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:52, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:I would love to do that! Question: Whose side did I take though?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:53, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
::More just sterring you away from it than saying you did, sorry! [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:55, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
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You are partly right about CP traffic and [Alexa] says 70% of CP traffic comes from the USA and it wouldn't surprise me if this were true. The logo is not going to change for the foreseeable future. At the same time, the search engines are bringing in traffic from around the world. As far as RobS, I should have let ASchlafly intervene earlier as far as RobS as it would have been a better use of my time. I am moving on and attending to more important matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:45, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

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Hi Sean,

I deleted PHilton's personal attack on Conservative, and your comment responding to it. While your comment was in no way inappropriate, it would have looked a bit strange sitting there in isolation. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 11:57, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Its ok haha ^_^--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 12:00, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

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I noticed your recent reversion; now you can block accounts also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:07, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
:Danke, Hopefully I won't have much use for it.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:11, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
::Well, there goes that hope :/ --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:26, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

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Sean, if you are blocking for "inappropriate username" please make sure that the box "account creation disabled" is '''unticked''' so the user can recreate with a more suitable name (unless of course the username is vulgar and/or abusive). Thanks, [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 19:47, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
:Ok, danke for the reminder ^_^--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 19:49, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
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Sorry I didn't talk to you about this earlier. I removed the reference that Pierre guy put in that you reinserted. It was an honest mistake, I'm sure. Seeing from your userpage that you are going into your freshmen year of college and would be born in the post-Cold War era, you probably have no idea what the [[Soviet Union]] was. It was a blunder that Bachmann made in a speech. I'm not sure if you follow politics, but Bachmann is known for those sort of blunders much like mistaking Elvis' death date for his birthday, or mistaking actor John Wayne for serial killer John Wayne Gacy. These remarks are fodder that the [[liberal media]] use to tarnish Bachmann with and that parodist inserted it like it was true. If you don't mind, I reinstated his block and doubled it to 1 year. Thanks and good luck with school.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 20:34, 19 August 2011 (EDT)</nowiki>

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2011-08-25T12:42:35Z

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2011-08-25T12:41:51Z

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Hi Jim Jast, welcome to Conservapedia. Knowing your interests, I would suggest a good article for you to work on would be [[Big Bang theory]]. But I'd suggest you edit the [[Talk:Big Bang theory|Talk page]] first, to check if other editors are happy with your edits, before making them to the proper article (at least until you get the feel for the site.) If you want to check on anything, good people to talk to would be [[User talk:Conservative|Conservative]] or [[User talk:RobSmith|RobSmith]], since they are both admins and have been around much longer than me. [[User:Maratrean|Maratrean]] 20:48, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

:Hi Maratrean, The [[Big Bang theory]] is not a theory in scientific sense since it is not verifyable, which is required from all "scientific" theories. It is only a (lame) hypothesis that the universe came about in such way. In my opinion it is just a creationist fairy tale proposing how it could happen if the universse were not eternal (as it most likely is), and if there was a way of creating energy out of nothing. The later thing is necessary for such a "BB universe" to exist, and for several reasons. (i) If there was no universe in its place and it got created "somehow" the energy had to be supplied. (ii) If it already started function as we see it now, it needs constant supply of energy to compensate for constant loss of energy of photons for "dynamical friction" which is a problem for any moving objects in the universe with which it interacts gravitationally. Even photons need this energy delievered, as I described [http://www.fuw.edu.pl/~wjast/160.htm it here]. Besides the above paper explains all the observations so that the Big Bang hypothesis is not needed any more. [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 15:39, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
::Hi JJ. I hope you fit in here. I suspect your ideas will be welcomed here more than at certain other places. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 14:45, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

==Your gravitation theory==
Hi JimJast, I've just commented on your theory [[Talk:Gravitation_demystified|here]]. --[[User:MM87|'''MM''']]''[[User_talk:MM87|'''''87''''']] 17:13, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

== Problems ==

Mr. Jast:

I note with some concern the things that you have been writing, about yourself, and about relativity and such. They lead me to suspect that you are a "crackpot". Your statements that things your have written have been rejected by the scientific establishment only reinforce this. Now I'm not going to recommand that your writings be deleted or reverted, though I will raise some questions below. People should have a forum from which they can argue for what they believe, and Conservapedia may be just the place for you. It certainly hosts other seriously unorthodox ideas. I like to think that the scientific and mathematical articles at Conservapedia do not go off into seriously and demonstrably wrong things, but it's not for me to say. This may be just the right forum for you.

First, I note that some of your citations lead to broken internet links.

Now, in your user page, you make a few claims about your achievements. One the particularly interested me was the claim of singlehandedly being one of the first to invent a computer display that does not print on paper. Presumably this was one of the first "electronic" computer displays of text. Can you tell us just what it was that you invented? Matrix fonts? Stroke fonts? Point-plotting CRT displays? Stroke CRT displays? LED displays? LCD displays? TFT displays? Gas-discharge ("nixie") displays? This happens to be an area that I am interested in, and my knowledge of its early history is incomplete.

Now, on some of your other pages, you make some rather unfathomable claims. I haven't gone through them in detail, being an impatient person, but there are a few points I noticed:

In Einsteinian gravitation:

step 8 -- the "antisymmetric part of Ricci tensor". What? The Ricci tensor is symmetric.

step 11 -- you discovered this in 1986, but couldn't show it to Einstein because he was dead? That's a lot of Hubris! Where did you publish it?

In [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Counterexamples_to_Relativity#Correcting_example_.231_.28G.CE.BC.CE.BD_.3D_8.CF.80KT.CE.BC.CE.BD.29], you say that the original equation was R mu nu = 8 pi K T mu nu? Nonsense. That would violate conservation of mass/energy. Conservation says that the 4-divergence of T mu nu is zero. Ricci's tensor does not have that property. Einstein's tensor does, due to having the trace removed, and the Bianchi identities. Einstein's tensor, and the fact that the equation involves it and not Ricci's tensor, was not introduced in 1973. It's been there all along, since 1915 or so.

:Hi, Let me address your concerns one by one:

::First, I note that some of your citations lead to broken internet links.

:This is because my account on the university physics server has been blocked for the reason not known yet but I hope to learn when the guy who ordered bloking my account returns from his vacations.

::Now, in your user page, you make a few claims about your achievements. One the particularly interested me was the claim of singlehandedly being one of the first to invent a computer display that does not print on paper. Presumably this was one of the first "electronic" computer displays of text. Can you tell us just what it was that you invented? Matrix fonts? Stroke fonts? Point-plotting CRT displays? Stroke CRT displays? LED displays? LCD displays? TFT displays? Gas-discharge ("nixie") displays? This happens to be an area that I am interested in, and my knowledge of its early history is incomplete.

:The part I invented was "stroke fonts" that worked together with a "Point-plotting CRT display". The "character generator" as I called it then, worked this way that there was a number of rows of magnetic cores aranged in a rectangular matrix into which a character was written with a wire dedicated to this particular character (about 100 wires) and then a xy coordinates were read from the matrix one by one with one wire per one word (about 30 wires) so each character was displayed in about 30 strokes. We (me and my staff of 4) completed building this display around 1965 and since that time it was operational and able to plot grapths with descriptions with about 1024x1024 resolution.

::Now, on some of your other pages, you make some rather unfathomable claims. I haven't gone through them in detail, being an impatient person, but there are a few points I noticed:

::In Einsteinian gravitation:

::step 8 -- the "antisymmetric part of Ricci tensor". What? The Ricci tensor is symmetric.

:This requires longer answer but short answer is that it does not have to be called "Ricci" since it is just a tensor that sits there representing spacetime geometry. It may be called differently since I'm not paricularly attached to this name. I already call the temporal part of it the "Hubble tensor" and this part has to be antisymmetric. If Ricci can't have antisymmetric part then we dump it since the spacetime has to have "Hubble tensor" (anti symmetric) desribing trmporal features of spacetime and symmetric part describing it spatial features since the spacetime has to be flat. I asked the guys around here and they say that they don't really know what type of a tensor Ricci is.

::step 11 -- you discovered this in 1986, but couldn't show it to Einstein because he was dead? That's a lot of Hubris! Where did you publish it?

:Einstein died in 1955 so how could I show it to him in 1986? Are you serious?

:I never published anything since the only referee who has seen my paper didn't believe that the universe isn't expanding so this referee recommanded the rejection of my paper dispite my proof that in our universe the Hubble constant must be about 70km/s/Mpc without yet any expansion. The referee said that my math is OK but he thinks that the universe expands. The CP is practically the first place where I may say that the universe isn't expanding and show how I know it. And wnybody who knows high school calculus can check it.

:Do you belive that universe is expanding? If yes then with what you support your claim (against all Einsteinian stuff that I present that even predicted the illusion of accelerating expansion observed within 1 standard deviation)?

::In [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Counterexamples_to_Relativity#Correcting_example_.231_.28G.CE.BC.CE.BD_.3D_8.CF.80KT.CE.BC.CE.BD.29], you say that the original equation was R mu nu = 8 pi K T mu nu? Nonsense. That would violate conservation of mass/energy. Conservation says that the 4-divergence of T mu nu is zero. Ricci's tensor does not have that property. Einstein's tensor does, due to having the trace removed, and the Bianchi identities. Einstein's tensor, and the fact that the equation involves it and not Ricci's tensor, was not introduced in 1973. It's been there all along, since 1915 or so.

:You see: I say R but you say it is not Ricci, so I believe you and call it H (from Hubble). The name is not important just its functions. And H has its symmetric and anti symmetric parts. Now let's check if its divergence can be zero. Why not?
:Actually it was the name I proposed already to the same referee in 1986 but he didn't like it for the reason that then the Einstein field equation must be different. I didn't mind but he did without explaining me why. Maybe you will? [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 12:35, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

::First, as far as the computer displays, I'm convinced.

::But you seem to be explaining the Ricci problem by saying that you are using the term "Ricci's tensor" to mean something other than what the rest of the world calls it. I strongly recommend not doing this. Use normal conventions. People will be more inclined to read your articles, and to believe you when you say that your articles are understandable to high school students, if you write in a way that makes that clear. Your nonstandard ways of approaching the subject may be working against you. For example, you claim that the "invariant mass" is not a fundamental property of something, whereas the "relativistic mass" (0 component of the 4-momentum) is, and that the fact that different observers measure different values of this isn't a problem. Just divide by gamma and you get a number that all observers agree on. Most scientists find it more intellectually satisfying to take the invariant quantity as fundamental. In fact, the term "relativistic mass" has been obsolete since the mid 20th century.

::To take another example, your claim that the curvature of spacetime causes time dilation, and that time dilation ''in turn'' causes gravity (that is, causes geodesics not to appear "straight"), fails to explain the second step. In fact, under general relativity, the curvature of spacetime (that is, Riemann's tensor) can be shown by direct application of mathematics to cause ''both'' time dilation ''and'' gravity.

::You also mentioned, somewhere on the "counterexamples to relativity" talk page, something about the metric tensor being unsymmetrical. You shouldn't use the term "metric tensor" to mean something other than what the rest of the world takes it to be. Or, if you actually believe that it isn't symmetric, you must have reformulated linear algebra and Riemannian geometry, in which case you should indicate where we can find your new textbooks.

::[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 23:02, 18 August 2011 (EDT)

:::Hi Sam, Again shifted your message to the right to make it better readible (and hope you don't mind). Since you didn't sign your message I thought it is from MM87, but it's OK, except that you probably didn't know what I'm talking about when I talked about "Ricci".

:::I don't like using established terms in different sense but I didn't know that Ricci is considered to be symmetric. That's why I told MM87 (as I thought I'm talking to him) that for me the name means nothing and changed the name to "Hubble" which I used already before. So in our communication we may use "H" which we may assume non symmetric. I know from our mathematicians that 4-dimensional metric tensor can be non symmetric (symmetry goes only up to 3-D) and I know from a "relativist" that he actually doesn't know anything about the symmetry of Ricci.
:::[[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 14:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

:::: Metric tensors are by definition symmetric, regardless of the number of dimensions. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 19:12, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::Hi MatthewQ, Are you sure about non Riemannian as well (degenerate, meaning vanishing determinant)? How do you diagonalize it then? Mine is degenerate just to avoid possibility of diagonalization, according to Einstein's demand of non symmetric metric that Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler forgot to put into their bibliography and also to discuss it while talking about Einstein's ideas <ref>Einstein, A., ''"On the Generalized Theory of Gravitation"'', ''"Scientific American"'', April 1950.</ref>. [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 19:59, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

:::::: Metrics on psudeo-Riemannian manifolds are symmetric. Just think about the Minkowski metric: diag(-1,+1,+1,+1). These metrics satisfy all the usual axioms of a metrics except for positive definite. That is, it can be negative or zero for non-identical points. They also have to be non-degenerate, so whatever it is you're defining isn't a metric or even a pseudo-metric.
:::::: I don't have access to the article you mentioned, but I really doubt Einstein demanded a non symmetric metric. Can you provide a quote? Regardless, do you know what a metric is? Roughly speaking, it's something to measure distance between points A and B. So when you say your "metric" is not symmetric you're saying that the distance from A to B is not the same as the distance from B to A. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 22:04, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

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== Your articles ==

You shouldn't be creating articles with statements like "according to my calculations" etc. That is what essays are for. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:34, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

:Hi Max, how do I create an essay? [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 17:51, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
::By creating a page with "Essay:" as the prefix. Like [[Essay:Example]]. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:59, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

== Duplicate articles ==

Please stop creating [[Cosmological_redshift|duplicate articles]]. Add anything new to [[redshift]] instead of creating new articles explaining the same thing with a slightly different name. thanks, [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:06, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

:Hi Max, It is not a slightly different name, and it is not a name invented by me. It is used as such ([[cosmological redshift]]) in cosmology. The name "cosmological" makes it different from any other redshift that is not "cosmological". E.g. "recessional redshift" may be also "cosmological" but not necessarily. Opinions of cosmologists are divided in this since cosmology is not a finished science in which there are no doubts what is what. I'd like to explain every shade of meaninf to the readres who are interested in the details, and not just shrtchange them as other people may do not caring too much about what readers understand.

:If you think that I explained it already and just invent another name for the same thing (which I never do since I feel there are too many names for the same thing) let me know and if this is relly the case I gladly follow your suggestions. If your suggestion is improper for some reason I'll explain what are the differences in meaning. Do we have an agreement?

:In cosmology there are really two main theories: the [[Big Bang]] and [[Einsteinian gravitation]] (as I call it) since it is built on Einstein's understanding of physics. I don't call it "Einstein's" since Einstein didn't know many things that got discovered later but are predicted by his theory and not by the [[Big Bang]]. E.g. "[[dark energy]]" which is pure invention of the [[Big Bang]] proponents who don't understand the universe. Have you read my [[relativists]] article?

:[[Einsteinian gravitation]] predicts observations leading the [[Big Bang]] proponents to assuming [[dark energy]] but those predictions are not published since the [[Big Bang]] proponents hope that Einsteinian explanation will get not noticed.

:I write in conservapedia for the sole purpose to explain all cosmology to people who don't understand it and might think that the [[Big Bang]] is a theory of the universe, while it is [[Einsteinian gravitation]] that I propagate since Einstein is already dead and can't speak. E.g. contemporary students don't even know that Einstein said that spacetime metric '''''must be non symmetric''''' while the [[Big Bang]] metric is assumed as symmetric and Einstein's paper not mentioned in bibliografy from which those students learn creationism instead of physics as they should.
:I'd appreciate your answering this message. [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 19:33, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

::I don't pretend to understand cosmology but please add things to the [[redshift]] article we already have. Also if you're creating articles on things that are your personal opinion or ideas then an Essay is more appropriate. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 18:38, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

:::OK Max, if you think it is better for understanding the [[redshift]]s then I put it there.
:::I thought that a short explanations, when a new idea is encountered are better for understanding the subject since a big articles might discourage people from trying to understand real simple things as cosmology, or astronomy (the tough part is astrophysics), but then we would have two styles of explaining things which might be even worse. So let's keep related things together. [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 19:33, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Thank you for your understanding. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 19:36, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::Max, how do I remove [[cosmological redshift]] which aproximate contents I merged with [[redshift]]? [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 21:06, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::i have advised Andy who can delete the page when the info has been moved. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 21:25, 24 August 2011 (EDT)</nowiki>

User:JimJast

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<nowiki>I'm a sculptor who by a strange twist of fate consisting of proving mathematically in February 1985 that the universe is [http://www.fuw.edu.pl/~wjast/160.htm not expanding], got involved in math and physics of gravitation. The above implies that the Big Bang has never happened and the universe is eternal (as assumed before me by astronomer Carl Sagan). I'm presently doing my [[PhD]] work in it at the Institute of Physics of University of Warsaw, Poland, which prevents me from persuing my other interests as the mentioned sculpting and making electronic gadgets, which is my other profession (electronic engineering in which I have [[MS]] degree from Warsaw Politechnic). Still my another profession is software engineering in which I had been working for about 30 years, mostly in Denmark and the US, creating ''real time'' software, for [[CNC]] operating systems for controlling ''milling machines'' and before that for ''street traffic'' control systems for cities: Poenix, AZ, Tucson, AZ, and Colorado Springs, CO. My most difficult project designed singlehandely was hardware and software for an IBM PC based machine reading "on the fly", and comparing it with expected, numbers of lottery tickets printed at speed 120"/s on over 40" wide paper sheets for some lottery in Providence, RI. The most interesting project designed singlehandely was one of the first worldwide, alphanumerical displays, which likes of, are now used with every computer but then were considered good for nothing since ''"what good for is a computer without printed output?"'' as was standard complaint of prospective investors in the project after they had seen a model of it working with the Warsaw University computer.

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