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Women

2007-03-19T04:00:19Z

Sedge: Added headings to help the generalization effort

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'''Women''' is the plural for the female of the human species.

== Women in the Bible ==

=== Genesis ===
According to [[biblical literalism]], women, like Men, were created by God on the 6th day of [[Creation]], as told in The Book of [[Genesis]]. [[Genesis]] further elaborates that [[God]] took a rib from [[Adam]], the first Man, and from it created [[Eve]], the first woman, as a subservient companion for [[Adam]]. Also not explicitly stated in the [[Bible]], it is obvious that, due to the manner in which Eve was created, she was Adam's wife, as God does not intend for two humans in such a union to be any other way.{{fact}} Eve caused sin and suffering to come into the world when she tricked Adam into eating from The Tree of Knowledge, an act directly forbidden by God Himself. As punishment for this, God declared that women shall experience great pain in childbirth and shall always be ruled over by their husbands. <ref>Genesis 3:16</ref>

=== Biblical statements on the role of women ===
Saint Paul also has much to say on the status of women in society, most memorably that women should submit to their husbands just as the church submits to God.
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ephesians%205:22-24&version=9 Ephesians 5:22-24 ]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2011:8-9;&version=9; I Corinthians 11:8-9]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2011:4-7;&version=9; I Corinthians 11:4-7]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2014:34-35;&version=9; I Corinthians 14:34-35]</ref>
The Bible also states that if a man sells his daughter into slavery she must consent and "not go out as the menservants do." (Exodus 21:7)

The New Testament contains many instructions regarding the role of women:
Women are to dress modestly<ref>1 Timothy 2:9</ref><ref>Peter 3:2-6</ref>.
Women may learn in silence, but may not be permitted to teach<ref>1 Timothy 2:11-12</ref>. Some interpreations limit this rule to the teaching of doctrine.
Women are not permitted to speak in church<ref>1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (Spoken by Paul></ref>.
Women are to be subservient to their husbands<ref>Ephesians 5:22-24</ref><ref>Colossians 3:18</ref><ref>Titus 2:4-5</ref><ref>1 Peter 3:1-7</ref>.

Some women's organizations like the National Organization of Women disagree with the Bible and argue that they should not have to submit to their husbands, but instead should have "equal" rights.[http://womensvoicesraised.org/bakerLetter.html] Some Christian churches support this idea.

==References==
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== Related Topics ==
[[Men]]

Men

2007-03-19T03:48:31Z

Sedge: Established page, following format of the current Women page.

'''Men''' is the plural for the male of the human species.

== Biblical Origins ==
According to [[biblical literalism]], Men were created by God on the 6th day of [[Creation]], as told in The Book of [[Genesis]].

== The Bible on Men ==
The relationship between [[God]] and Men is tumultuous from the start. The first three men written of in [[Genesis]] are [[Adam]], cast from [[Eden]] after eating fruit from the [[Tree of Knowledge]] <ref>http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/gen003.htm</ref> and [[Cain]] and his brother and victim [[Abel]], the elder sons of Adam and [[Eve]]. <ref>http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/kjv/gen004.htm</ref>.

==References==
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==Related pages==
[[Women]]

User:Sedge

2007-03-17T01:16:04Z

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My Interests:

Bible Study

Reading and reporting on Creation Science

Collaborating on Conservapedia

User:Sedge

2007-03-17T01:14:55Z

Sedge: My Interests

My Interests:

Bible Study

Reading and reporting on Creationism

Collaborating on Conservapedia

Physical Science Terms A

2007-03-17T00:58:52Z

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Alluvium

2007-03-17T00:36:44Z

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'''Alluvium''' is a geological term that refers to freshly eroded rock particles that have been carried by streams. Alluvium is pounded into finer grains each time it is carried downstream.
[http://geology.about.com/library/bl/images/blalluvium.htm]

== Origins ==
In [[Creationism]] there has been some debate over whether alluvium was created on the second day [http://search.americanbible.org/bible/search.cfm?cText=1&input=Genesis%201:6&versions=46] when [[God]] separated the water below, or on the third day [http://search.americanbible.org/bible/search.cfm?cText=1&input=Genesis%201:9&versions=46] when [[God]] commanded the water to come together into one place so dry ground became visible. The argument hinges on whether or not ''particles'' of dirt existed before the waters were gathered on the third day.

Theological

2007-03-16T03:20:22Z

Sedge: briefer etymology

== Definition ==

'''Theological''' means ''of or pertaining to theology or religion.''

==Etymology ==

1362, from O.Fr. theologie "philosophical treatment of Christian doctrine" (14c.), originally from theos "god" + -logos "treating of." [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=theology Online Etymology Dictionary]

Talk:Women

2007-03-16T03:16:15Z

Sedge: Answered elsewhere

I'm not going into the Biblical issues here; that's for more scholarly folk than myself. However: "''Also not explicitly stated in the Bible, it is obvious that,''" does that work? At what level of opinion and/or writer's logic does CP draw the line? [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 03:25, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

:: NO, this does not work. The logic in that is completely flawed.
::Also, if Eve was created from Adam's rib, wouldn't she be his sister? They are of the same flesh and blood...
::-- [[user:Orly|Orly]] 10:24 14 March 2007 (CET)

If god does not approve of menstruation, why did "he" design women that way?

-- [[user:Orly|Orly]] 15:42 14 March 2007 (CET)

I thought of taking it out to. But those verses are in the bible still... I thought it better to explain their role than to refuse to acknowledge them just for their inconvenience.

-- BornAgainBrit

:Free advice for you to use, or not, as yous see fit: the reason religious debates are never resolved is simple (imo): people are trying to understand why a possibly omnipotent / omniscient being does what it does. We have no frame of reference for this, so we're stuck making all kinds of assumptions. Simple answer to any "why" question is, unfortunately, "why not?" Or "because." Or "it will all make sense 1,000 years from now, we simply lack perspective." Which doesn't mean those arguments are right, but what are you going to do?

:My advice: read, study, pray if you like. But you probably won't get an answer you like, and (conversely) you not getting an answer you like doesn't prove anything.

:[[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 13:32, 14 March 2007 (EDT) , going back to technical edits where the Chicago Manual can be proved far more easily ;)

This is really a terrible article! Some facts maybe? /What

Never mind: asked and answered on [[User_talk:TimSvendsen | TimSvendsen's]] page [[User:Sedge|Sedge]] 23:16, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Theological

2007-03-16T03:09:47Z

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== Definition ==

'''Theological''' means ''of or pertaining to theology or religion.''

==Etymology ==

1362, from O.Fr. theologie "philosophical treatment of Christian doctrine" (14c.), from L. theologia, from Gk. theologia "an account of the gods," from theologos "one discoursing on the gods," from theos "god" (see Thea) + -logos "treating of." [http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=theology Online Etymology Dictionary]

Biblical literalism

2007-03-16T02:54:20Z

Sedge: Established page

Biblical literalism is a [[theological]] term that means taking the [[Bible]] at face value.

It is related to -- and sometimes can encompass -- [[Biblical infallibility]].

Talk:Women

2007-03-16T02:27:24Z

Sedge: Plural of woman is women

I'm not going into the Biblical issues here; that's for more scholarly folk than myself. However: "''Also not explicitly stated in the Bible, it is obvious that,''" does that work? At what level of opinion and/or writer's logic does CP draw the line? [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 03:25, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

:: NO, this does not work. The logic in that is completely flawed.
::Also, if Eve was created from Adam's rib, wouldn't she be his sister? They are of the same flesh and blood...
::-- [[user:Orly|Orly]] 10:24 14 March 2007 (CET)

If god does not approve of menstruation, why did "he" design women that way?

-- [[user:Orly|Orly]] 15:42 14 March 2007 (CET)

I thought of taking it out to. But those verses are in the bible still... I thought it better to explain their role than to refuse to acknowledge them just for their inconvenience.

-- BornAgainBrit

:Free advice for you to use, or not, as yous see fit: the reason religious debates are never resolved is simple (imo): people are trying to understand why a possibly omnipotent / omniscient being does what it does. We have no frame of reference for this, so we're stuck making all kinds of assumptions. Simple answer to any "why" question is, unfortunately, "why not?" Or "because." Or "it will all make sense 1,000 years from now, we simply lack perspective." Which doesn't mean those arguments are right, but what are you going to do?

:My advice: read, study, pray if you like. But you probably won't get an answer you like, and (conversely) you not getting an answer you like doesn't prove anything.

:[[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 13:32, 14 March 2007 (EDT) , going back to technical edits where the Chicago Manual can be proved far more easily ;)

This is really a terrible article! Some facts maybe? /What

== Plural of woman is women ==

Confused about my my edits being removed. More than one "woman" = "women", yes? Also St. Paul wrote the statement (as was already stated in article). Why revert? Is this a mistake? [[User:Sedge|Sedge]] 22:27, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

Women

2007-03-16T01:08:55Z

Sedge: Fixed loose reference to Bible; plurals

According to [[biblical literalism]], women, like Men, were created by God on the 6th day of [[Creation]], as told in The Book of [[Genesis]]. [[Genesis]] further elaborates that [[God]] took a rib from [[Adam]], the first Man, and from it created [[Eve]], the first woman, as a subservient companion for [[Adam]]. Also not explicitly stated in the [[Bible]], it is obvious that, due to the manner in which Eve was created, she was Adam's wife, as God does not intend for two humans in such a union to be any other way.{{fact}} Eve caused sin and suffering to come into the world when she tricked Adam into eating from The Tree of Knowledge, an act directly forbidden by God Himself.

Saint Paul also has much to say on the status of women in society, most memorably that women should submit to their husbands just as the church submits to God.
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ephesians%205:22-24&version=9 Ephesians 5:22-24 ]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2011:8-9;&version=9; I Corinthians 11:8-9]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2011:4-7;&version=9; I Corinthians 11:4-7]</ref>
<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=I%20Corinthians%2014:34-35;&version=9; I Corinthians 14:34-35]</ref>

Some women's organizations like the National Organization of Women disagree with Saint Paul and argue that they should not have to submit to their husbands, but instead should have "equal" rights.[http://womensvoicesraised.org/bakerLetter.html]

==References==
<references />