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George Orwell

2010-03-09T09:24:13Z

SilvioB:

[[Image:Hgdctuy6.jpg|right|thumb|George Orwell (Eric Blair)]]
'''George Orwell''' is the pen name of '''Eric Arthur Blair''' (June 25, 1903 - January 21, 1950), an [[Open mind|open-minded]], leading English writer, essayist and journalist who became increasingly critical of his ideological allies on the left. He grew increasingly [[conservative]] while maintaining his good standing among democratic socialists, which allowed him to continue his columns and perhaps to introduce them to conservative insights. "There are nevertheless four aspects of Orwell's later work which are more closely linked to conservative than to left-wing styles of thinking."<ref>http://revel.unice.fr/cycnos/document.html?id=1391</ref> The tension between the conservative Orwell grew to become and the democratic socialist he still allowed others to view him as, may account for some of his interesting word inventions like "doublespeak".

Unlike most writers, Orwell's greatest works came late in his life. He harshly criticized communism and totalitarianism in ''[[1984]]'', his finest novel. His short story named ''[[Animal Farm]]'' was an allegorical reference to the Russian Revolution and a frightening tale of how people can change the meaning of words and commandments over time to suit a totalitarian regime. These works were far more influential than his first novel, based on his experiences on the Imperial Police Force in Burma, ''[[Burmese Dаys]]'', which explored the evils of [[coloniаlism]].

== Biography ==
Orwell's political views became to move away from the far left when he volunteered to fight the Spanish [[Fаscist]] forces to keep them from overturning the socialist government of Spain in the [[Spаnish Civil War]] (1936-1939). He enlisted in the POUM (In English, Workers Party for Marxist Unity) Militia, and saw action on the Aragon front, where he fought side by side with Anаrchists and Communists, as well as Republican regulars.

He became disillusioned with the Spanish government's policy of withholding arms from the POUM and the Anarchists, which he saw as an attempt by the Communists to water down the revolutionary nature of the Anti-Fascist resistance, and centralize power in the hands of the Moscow-backed Communist Party. Taking a bullet through his neck but surviving, Orwell was invalided to Barcelona, where he witnessed the [[Stalin]]ist repression of [[Trotsky]]ist and [[Anarchist]] parties. Orwell and his wife were forced to escape from Spain as fugitives, after the POUM was banned by the increasingly repressive regime.

Despite his persecution, Orwell initially continued to support the Republic upon his return to England, viewing a Communist dominated Spain as better than a Fascist Spain. He recounted his experiences in Spain in the book ''[[Homage to Catalonia]]''.<ref>[http://www.george-orwell.org/Homage_to_Catalonia/index.html]</ref> He remained a socialist, and was for a time in the late 1930s a member of the [[Independent Labour Party]], although he split from the ILP over its opposition to the [[Second World Wаr]]. Orwell served in the [[Home Guаrd]] during the war.

Orwell had only ten years left in his life when he returned. During that period he and his wife adopted a baby boy, but Orwell's wife died shortly thereafter.

In those ten years Orwell wrote his famous anti-communist fictional works, demonstrating how much his views had moved to the right from his youth. First he spent three years writing ''Animаl Farm'' (1944), and then perhaps five years on the longer novel ''1984'' (1949). Orwell continued to espouse forms of [[sociаlism]]<ref>[http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/eaip_03]</ref> right up to his death, but utilized his position as a regular columnist for the left-labor ''Tribune'' paper to strongly criticize the USSR. Such criticism was unusual for a [[left-wing]]er of the period, but Orwell was so well respected that his position was secure. "I belong to the left and must work with it," he declared in 1945.<ref>http://revel.unice.fr/cycnos/document.html?id=1391</ref> He died of [[tuberculosis]] in 1950.

==Inspiration==
George Orwell was inspired by [[Conservapedia]] for his masterpiece [[1984]].

==Quotes==

*"In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

*"It cannot be said too often - at any rate, it is not being said nearly often enough - that collectivism is not inherently democratic, but, on the contrary, gives to a tyrannical minority such powers as the Spanish Inquisitors never dreamt of."

*"One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words 'Socialism' and 'Communism' draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist and feminist in England."

*"If only the sandals and pistachio-colored shirts could be put in a pile and burnt, and every vegetarian, teetotaler and creeping Jesus sent home to Welwyn Garden City to do his yoga exercises quietly. As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents."

*"The truth is that to many people calling themselves Socialists, revolution does not mean a movement of the masses with which they hope to associate themselves; it means a set of reforms which 'we,' the clever ones, are going to impose upon 'them,' the Lower Orders."

*"War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it."

*"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."

*"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against [[totаlitarianism]] and for [[democratic socialism]], as I know it."

*"I have no particular love for the idealized 'worker' as he appears in the bourgeois Communist's mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood worker in conflict with his natural enemy, the policeman, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on."

*"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

==Bibliography==
===Books===
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Down_and_Out_in_Paris_and_London/english/ ''Down and Out in Paris and London''] (1933)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Burmese_Days/ ''Burmese Days''] (1934)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/A_Clergymans_Daughter/ ''A Clergyman's Daughter''] (1935)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Keep_the_Aspidistra_Flying/ ''Keep the Aspidistra Flying''] (1936)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/The_Road_to_Wigan_Pier/ ''The Road to Wigan Pier''] (1937)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Homage_to_Catalonia/ ''Homage to Catalonia''] (1938)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Coming_up_for_Air/ ''Coming Up for Air''] (1939)
*''[[Animal Farm]]'' (1945)
*''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]'' (1949)

===Essays===
*[http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/essays/spike.htm ''The Spike''] (1931)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/articles/hanging/ '' A Hanging''] (1931)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/articles/elephant/ ''Shooting An Elephant''] (1936)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/dickens/ ''Charles Dickens''] (1939)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/boys/ ''Boys' Weeklies''] (1940)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/whale/ ''Inside The Whale''] (1940)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/lion/english/ ''The Lion and The Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius''] (1941)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/wells/ ''Wells, Hitler and the World State''] (1941)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/McGill/ ''The art of donald McGill''] (1941)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/Spanish_War/ ''Looking back on the Spanish War''] (1943)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/yeats/ ''W. B. Yeats''] (1943)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/dali/ ''Benefit of Clergy: Some notes on Salvador Dali''] (1944)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/koestler/ ''Arthur Koestler''] (1944)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/nationalism/ ''Notes on Nationalism''] (1945)
*[http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/essays/nicecupoftea.htm ''A Nice Cup of Tea''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/articles/Poor_Die/ ''How The Poor Die''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/swift/ ''Politics vs. Literature: An Examination of Gulliver's Travels''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/ ''Politics and the English Language''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/burnham/ ''Second Thoughts on James Burnham''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/articles/decline/ ''Decline of the English Murder''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/articles/Common_Toad/ ''Some Thoughts on the Common Toad''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/vicar/ ''A Good Word for the Vicar of Bray''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/plum/ ''In Defence of P. G. Wodehouse''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/wiw/ ''Why I Write''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/prevention/ ''The Prevention of Literature''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/ ''Such, Such Were the Joys''] (1946)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/essays/lear/ ''Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool''] (1947)
*[http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/gandhi/ ''Reflections on Gandhi''] (1949)
*[http://www.george-orwell.org/Bookshop_Memories/0.html ''Bookshop Memories''] (1936)
*[http://www.whitebeertravels.co.uk/orwell ''The Moon Under Water''] (1946)

===Poetry===
*Romance
*A Little Poem
*Awake! Young Men of England
*Kitchener
*Our Minds are Married, But we are Too Young
*The Pagan
*The Lesser Evil
*Poem From Burma

[[Category:Authors|Orwell, George]]

==References==
<references/>
*[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,926380-6,00.html That Year Is Almost Here] by Paul Gray, Time Online.

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Birthplace of Barack Obama

2010-02-23T14:38:08Z

SilvioB: I can't add a caption?

[[Image:Kenya obama birthplace sign.jpg|right|250px|A humorous take on Obama's birthplace]]

[[Barack Obama]] claims to have been born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]],<ref name="maraniss">{{cite news|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301620_pf.html |title=Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible | author=Maraniss, David | publisher=''The Washington Post'' | date=2008-08-22 | accessdate=2008-10-27}}</ref> to [[Barack Obama, Sr.]], a [[Luo (Kenya and Tanzania)|Luo]] from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, [[Kenya]], and [[Ann Dunham]], a US citizen <ref>{{cite web|publisher=[[FactCheck]] |url=http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html |title=Born in the U.S.A. |date=August 21, 2008 |accessmonthday=October 24 |accessyear=2008}}</ref> of mainly [[English (ethnic group)|English]], [[Irish people|Irish]] and smaller amounts of [[German people|German]] descent.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269836,00.html |title=FOXNews.com - Report: Obama's Irish Roots Unearthed - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum |publisher=Foxnews.com |date=May 3, 2007 |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.usnews.com/blogs/john-farrell/2008/10/30/barack-obamas-irish-heritage.html |title=Barack Obama's Irish Heritage - John A. Farrell (usnews.com) |publisher=Usnews.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201551.html |title=Tiny Irish Village Is Latest Place to Claim Obama as Its Own - washingtonpost.com |publisher=Washingtonpost.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref> However, there have been allegations he was born in [[Kenya]], not [[Hawaii]] as his campaign has reported, that he could be considered a [[British]] subject because of his father's residency in what then was a British protectorate that later became Kenya, and that the "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on his website simply shows his mother registered his birth in Hawaii after he was born. Requests, including lawsuits, asking he make his official birth certificate public have gone unanswered.

The [[Constitution of the United States|US Constitution]] Article II, Section 1 requires that "''No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States''", thus prohibiting those who were born in another country, even if they are US citizens, from legitimately becoming President.

In total, there are were least 6 lawsuits in the effort to compel President Obama to prove his birthplace and US Citizenship. The lawsuits include those by [[Democratic]] former-Assistant Attorney General of [[Pennsylvania]] [[Philip Berg]][http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/058_Berg%20v%20Obama%20Petition%20for%20Writ%20of%20Certiorari.pdf], [[American Independence Party]] founder and former-[[Republican Party]] Presidential Primary candidate [[Alan Keyes]][http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html], and independent author [[Andy Martin]].[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928]

Philip Berg explains his lawsuit in this linked video [http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/OBAMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html?v=gA6_k3NtXZs]

The Obama campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth" from the State of Hawaii claiming this is proof Obama was born in Hawaii.[http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate] However, the [[Department of Hawaiian Home Lands]], an official government agency of the state of Hawaii rejects this document as proof of Hawaiian birth. They require instead a "Certificate of Live Birth" (1st word different). The department states:

"''In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.''"[http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl]

Bloggers note that the "Certification of Live Birth" records Obama's father's race as "AFRICAN" versus "Negro" and that the document contains the word "LASER" in the lower left hand corner identifying the form type. They claim both words are incompatible with a document generated in 1961. They also note the certification number is blacked out.[http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/]

Sources favoring the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.obamacrimes.com Philip Berg's website

Sources opposed to the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.stopthesmears.com A Barack Obama Campaign website

{{reflist}}

[[Category:Barack Hussein Obama]]

Birthplace of Barack Obama

2010-02-23T14:33:10Z

SilvioB: Undo revision 756455 by SilvioB (Talk)

[[File:Kenya obama birthplace sign.jpg|right|250px]]

[[Barack Obama]] claims to have been born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]],<ref name="maraniss">{{cite news|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301620_pf.html |title=Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible | author=Maraniss, David | publisher=''The Washington Post'' | date=2008-08-22 | accessdate=2008-10-27}}</ref> to [[Barack Obama, Sr.]], a [[Luo (Kenya and Tanzania)|Luo]] from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, [[Kenya]], and [[Ann Dunham]], a US citizen <ref>{{cite web|publisher=[[FactCheck]] |url=http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html |title=Born in the U.S.A. |date=August 21, 2008 |accessmonthday=October 24 |accessyear=2008}}</ref> of mainly [[English (ethnic group)|English]], [[Irish people|Irish]] and smaller amounts of [[German people|German]] descent.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269836,00.html |title=FOXNews.com - Report: Obama's Irish Roots Unearthed - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum |publisher=Foxnews.com |date=May 3, 2007 |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.usnews.com/blogs/john-farrell/2008/10/30/barack-obamas-irish-heritage.html |title=Barack Obama's Irish Heritage - John A. Farrell (usnews.com) |publisher=Usnews.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201551.html |title=Tiny Irish Village Is Latest Place to Claim Obama as Its Own - washingtonpost.com |publisher=Washingtonpost.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref> However, there have been allegations he was born in [[Kenya]], not [[Hawaii]] as his campaign has reported, that he could be considered a [[British]] subject because of his father's residency in what then was a British protectorate that later became Kenya, and that the "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on his website simply shows his mother registered his birth in Hawaii after he was born. Requests, including lawsuits, asking he make his official birth certificate public have gone unanswered.

The [[Constitution of the United States|US Constitution]] Article II, Section 1 requires that "''No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States''", thus prohibiting those who were born in another country, even if they are US citizens, from legitimately becoming President.

In total, there are were least 6 lawsuits in the effort to compel President Obama to prove his birthplace and US Citizenship. The lawsuits include those by [[Democratic]] former-Assistant Attorney General of [[Pennsylvania]] [[Philip Berg]][http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/058_Berg%20v%20Obama%20Petition%20for%20Writ%20of%20Certiorari.pdf], [[American Independence Party]] founder and former-[[Republican Party]] Presidential Primary candidate [[Alan Keyes]][http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html], and independent author [[Andy Martin]].[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928]

Philip Berg explains his lawsuit in this linked video [http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/OBAMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html?v=gA6_k3NtXZs]

The Obama campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth" from the State of Hawaii claiming this is proof Obama was born in Hawaii.[http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate] However, the [[Department of Hawaiian Home Lands]], an official government agency of the state of Hawaii rejects this document as proof of Hawaiian birth. They require instead a "Certificate of Live Birth" (1st word different). The department states:

"''In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.''"[http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl]

Bloggers note that the "Certification of Live Birth" records Obama's father's race as "AFRICAN" versus "Negro" and that the document contains the word "LASER" in the lower left hand corner identifying the form type. They claim both words are incompatible with a document generated in 1961. They also note the certification number is blacked out.[http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/]

Sources favoring the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.obamacrimes.com Philip Berg's website

Sources opposed to the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.stopthesmears.com A Barack Obama Campaign website

{{reflist}}

[[Category:Barack Hussein Obama]]

Birthplace of Barack Obama

2010-02-23T14:32:44Z

SilvioB:

[[File:Kenya obama birthplace sign.jpg|right|250px|A humorous take on Obama's birthplace]]

[[Barack Obama]] claims to have been born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]],<ref name="maraniss">{{cite news|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082301620_pf.html |title=Though Obama Had to Leave to Find Himself, It Is Hawaii That Made His Rise Possible | author=Maraniss, David | publisher=''The Washington Post'' | date=2008-08-22 | accessdate=2008-10-27}}</ref> to [[Barack Obama, Sr.]], a [[Luo (Kenya and Tanzania)|Luo]] from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, [[Kenya]], and [[Ann Dunham]], a US citizen <ref>{{cite web|publisher=[[FactCheck]] |url=http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html |title=Born in the U.S.A. |date=August 21, 2008 |accessmonthday=October 24 |accessyear=2008}}</ref> of mainly [[English (ethnic group)|English]], [[Irish people|Irish]] and smaller amounts of [[German people|German]] descent.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269836,00.html |title=FOXNews.com - Report: Obama's Irish Roots Unearthed - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum |publisher=Foxnews.com |date=May 3, 2007 |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.usnews.com/blogs/john-farrell/2008/10/30/barack-obamas-irish-heritage.html |title=Barack Obama's Irish Heritage - John A. Farrell (usnews.com) |publisher=Usnews.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/12/AR2007051201551.html |title=Tiny Irish Village Is Latest Place to Claim Obama as Its Own - washingtonpost.com |publisher=Washingtonpost.com |date= |accessdate=2008-11-08}}</ref> However, there have been allegations he was born in [[Kenya]], not [[Hawaii]] as his campaign has reported, that he could be considered a [[British]] subject because of his father's residency in what then was a British protectorate that later became Kenya, and that the "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on his website simply shows his mother registered his birth in Hawaii after he was born. Requests, including lawsuits, asking he make his official birth certificate public have gone unanswered.

The [[Constitution of the United States|US Constitution]] Article II, Section 1 requires that "''No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States''", thus prohibiting those who were born in another country, even if they are US citizens, from legitimately becoming President.

In total, there are were least 6 lawsuits in the effort to compel President Obama to prove his birthplace and US Citizenship. The lawsuits include those by [[Democratic]] former-Assistant Attorney General of [[Pennsylvania]] [[Philip Berg]][http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/058_Berg%20v%20Obama%20Petition%20for%20Writ%20of%20Certiorari.pdf], [[American Independence Party]] founder and former-[[Republican Party]] Presidential Primary candidate [[Alan Keyes]][http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html], and independent author [[Andy Martin]].[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928]

Philip Berg explains his lawsuit in this linked video [http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/ELECTIONS/2008/OBAMA/OctSurpriseVideo081012.html?v=gA6_k3NtXZs]

The Obama campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth" from the State of Hawaii claiming this is proof Obama was born in Hawaii.[http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate] However, the [[Department of Hawaiian Home Lands]], an official government agency of the state of Hawaii rejects this document as proof of Hawaiian birth. They require instead a "Certificate of Live Birth" (1st word different). The department states:

"''In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.''"[http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl]

Bloggers note that the "Certification of Live Birth" records Obama's father's race as "AFRICAN" versus "Negro" and that the document contains the word "LASER" in the lower left hand corner identifying the form type. They claim both words are incompatible with a document generated in 1961. They also note the certification number is blacked out.[http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/]

Sources favoring the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.obamacrimes.com Philip Berg's website

Sources opposed to the Courts' compelling Obama to prove his birthplace and citizenship:

http://www.stopthesmears.com A Barack Obama Campaign website

{{reflist}}

[[Category:Barack Hussein Obama]]

Birthplace of Barack Obama

2010-02-23T14:31:58Z

SilvioB: Undo revision 756449 by Ed Poor (Talk) adding a caption will do

Fascism

2010-02-23T14:24:46Z

SilvioB: Undo revision 756402 by Danq (Talk) Franco used the Church for his purposes, wasn't a real Christian

'''Fascism''' today is a word used for attacking proposals to expand the government.

Historically, Fascism is a [[totalitarian]] economic and political ideology that arose in early twentieth-century Europe and came to dominate the social and political systems of Italy under [[Benito Mussolini]] and Germany under [[Adolf Hitler]]. It was influential in Portugal as well, and had followers in most European countries and in Argentina. The last fascism regime, that of [[Francisco Franco]] in Spain, came to an end in 1975.

The name "fascism" derives from an ancient Roman symbol, the ''[[fasces]],'' a group of birch rods bundled together with an axe. It symbolizes strength in unity; the rods are weak by themselves but strong when bundled together. Historian [[Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.]] has stated, "The Fascists were not conservative in any very meaningful sense. They did not wish to preserve the existing order, or even to turn back the clock to some more stable century. They purposefully planned to transform the existing order into a new and all-absorbing authoritarianism, based upon the energies and frustrations of modern industrialism. The Fascists, in a meaningful sense, were [[Revolution|revolutionaries]]."<ref>[http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/50s/schlesinger-notrightleft.html Not Right, Not Left, But a Vital Center], [[Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.]], ''New York Times Magazine'', April 4, 1948.</ref>

== Beliefs ==
Fascists believe that all actions should be done for the good of the state; they reject [[classical liberalism]], which upholds the rights of the individual. It ignores or rejects Christianity. This definition expands to economic policy as well, with government and business working together for this end - this is called "corporatism."

Characteristics of fascism include a belief that the state is more important than the individual; a leaning towards authoritarian government and violence; preference for centralized [[economic planning]]; an emphasis on [[nationalism]] and national traditions; militarism; information control and censorship; media propagation of the Great Leader which demonizes and trivializes his critics; and a rejection of both free enterprise and [[Socialism]] in favor of [[corporatism|corporatist]] economic policies.

Fascist regimes have often concentrated on a "scapegoat" to push their agendas, such as the vehement Nazi attack on the [[Jewish|Jews]].

The characteristics of fascism also include rampant [[cronyism]] and [[corruption]], as well as rigged elections and a general disdain for human rights.<ref>Dr. Lawrence Britt "Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20</ref>

== Examples ==

The prototypical fascist regime was that of [[Benito Mussolini]], who ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943. Other regimes which included corporatist elements are those of [[Francisco Franco]] in Spain (1936-1975) and [[Antonio Salazar]] in Portugal (1932-1968). German [[Nazism]] referred to government mandated corporatist entities as industrial cartels and added an obsession with [[race]]. Austrian economist [[Friedrich Hayek]] observed in the final stages of [[World War II]], "the rise of fascism and [[Marxism]] was not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. Yet it is significant that many of the leaders of these movements, from Mussolini down (and including [[Laval]] and [[Quisling]]) began as socialists and ended as fascists or Nazis. <ref>Friedrich A. Hayek, [http://www.iea.org.uk/files/upld-publication43pdf?.pdf ''Road to Serfdom'',] Reader's Digest Condensed Version, April 1945, pg. 31 - 32.</ref>

==Inspiration for the New Deal==
:''Main article: '''[[New Deal]]'''''

Italian Premier [[Benito Mussolini]] was convinced that the [[New Deal]] was copying Fascist economic policies.<ref>Stanley G. Payne, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=NLiFIEdI1V4C A History of Fascism, 1914-1945]’’ (University of Wisconsin Press, 1996) ISBN 0299148742, p. 230</ref> Nazi Minister of Economics [[Hjalmar Schacht]] declared that President [[Franklin Roosevelt]] had the same economic idea as [[Hitler]] and Mussolini;<ref> William E. Leuchtenburg, ‘’[http://ia311511.us.archive.org/3/items/franklindrooseve006302mbp/franklindrooseve006302mbp.pdf Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal]’’ (Harper & Row, 1963), p. 203</ref> the official Nazi Party organ, ''Völkischer Beobachter'', applauded “Roosevelt’s adoption of [[National Socialist]] strains of thought in his economic and social policies.”<ref> Wolfgang Schivelbusch, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=Z3GV5_n1h04C Three New Deals: Reflections on Roosevelt's America, Mussolini's Italy, and Hitler's Germany, 1933-1939]’’ (Macmillan, 2006) ISBN 080507452X, p. 19</ref> Hitler expressed admiration for FDR’s approach, saying, “I have <ref>[http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20716F839591A728DDDA90994DF405B838FF1D3],</ref> sympathy with President Roosevelt because he marches straight toward his objective over Congress, over lobbies, over stubborn bureaucracies.” FDR's Secretary of the Interior [[Harold L. Ickes|Harold Ickes]] conceded that “what we were doing in this country were some of the things that were being done in Russia and even some of the things that were being <ref>[http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.1502/article_detail.asp done under Hitler]</ref> in Germany. But we were doing them in an orderly way.”

The Italian Fascist Party program, first promulgated in 1919, demanded “Suppression of incorporated joint-stock companies, industrial or financial. Suppression of all speculation by banks and stock exchanges,” and “Control and taxation of private wealth. Confiscation of unproductive income.”<ref> Count Carlo Sforza,’’[http://books.google.com/books?id=5a0EHPh-X-YC Contemporary Italy - Its Intellectual and Moral Origins] (Read Books, 2007) ISBN 1406760307), pp. 295-296</ref> The Fascists called this economic system ''corporativismo'' (corporativism). As UCLA international relations and political science professor Herbert Steiner observed in 1938, “So substantial are the limitations under which private property and capital are exercised in Italy, that the conception of ‘capitalism’ is avowedly destroyed and replaced by ''corporativismo''.”<ref> H. Arthur Steiner, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=1LqtuYl43dwC Government in Fascist Italy]’’ (McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc., 1938), p. 92</ref>

===National Recovery Administration===
:''Main article: '''[[National Recovery Administration]]'''
The centerpiece of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA) of 1933, which was “similar to experiments being carried out by the fascist dictator Benito Mussolini in Italy and by the Nazis in Adolf Hitler's Germany,” according to John A. Garraty, <ref>[http://sah.columbia.edu/about/history.html past president]</ref> of the Society of American Historians.<ref> John Arthur Garraty, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=DGRuAAAAMAAJ The American Nation]’’, 4th ed., vol. 2 (Harper & Row, 1979) ISBN 0060422696, p. 656</ref> NIRA established the [[National Recovery Administration]] (NRA), “the New Deal’s attempt to bring to America the substance of Mussolini’s corporativism.”<ref>Leonard Peikoff, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=2_xpAAAAIAAJ The Ominous Parallels]’’ (Stein and Day, 1982) ISBN 081282850X, p. 293</ref> As one NRA study concluded, “The Fascist principles are very similar to those which have been evolving in America and so are of particular interest at this time.”<ref>Janet C. Wright, "Capital and Labor Under Fascism," National Archives, Record Group 9, Records of the National Recovery Administration,[http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/009.html#9.2.4 Special Research and Planning Reports and Memoranda, 1933-35], Entry 31, Box 3</ref>

Just as Mussolini “organized each trade or industrial group or professional group into a state supervised trade association” that “operated under state supervision and could plan production, quality, prices, distribution, labor standards, etc.,”<ref> John T. Flynn, ‘’[http://mises.org/books/rooseveltmyth.pdf The Roosevelt Myth]’’ (The Devin-Adair Company, 1948) pp. 42-43</ref> the NRA “forced virtually all American industry, manufacturing, and retail business into cartels possessing the power to set prices and wages, and to <ref>[http://www.fee.org/pdf/the-freeman/1005RMEColumn.pdf]</ref> dictate the levels of production.”

U.S. Ambassador to Italy Breckinridge Long wrote to Roosevelt’s economic advisor [[Rexford Tugwell]], “Your mind runs along these lines [corporativism]… It may have some bearing on the code work under N.R.A.”<ref>Long to Tugwell, May 16, 1934, [http://lccn.loc.gov/mm%2078030502 Breckinridge Long Papers], Box 111, Manuscript Division, Library of Congress)</ref> Tugwell, the “most prominent of the Brain Trusters and the man often considered the chief ideologist<ref>[http://www.fff.org/freedom/0201e.asp FDR — The Man, the Leader, the Legacy], Part 11
by Ralph Raico, Future of Freedom Foundation, February 2001. </ref> of the ‘first New Deal’ (roughly, 1933–34),” said, “I find Italy doing many of the things which seem to me necessary…. Mussolini certainly has the same people opposed to him as FDR has. But he has the press controlled so that they cannot scream lies at him daily.”<ref>Jonah Goldberg, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=wHihWKJE3asC Liberal Fascism: the Secret History of the American Left, from Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning] (Random House, Inc., 2008) ISBN 0385511841, p.156</ref>

As head of the NRA and thus “FDR’s leading bureaucrat,”<ref>[http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/hsjohnson.htm Hugh Samuel Johnson],
Arlington National Cemetery Website.</ref> the President appointed<ref>[http://www.condenaststore.com/VanityFair/ProdDetail.aspx?prodId=19968 General Hugh Johnson], Vanity Fair.</ref> General Hugh Johnson, who was granted “almost unlimited powers over industry.” <ref>[http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0716FC3E5F1A7A93CBA8178ED85F478385F9 NEW LAW IS ANTICIPATED; President Telephones Associate of Baruch of His Selection. ANSWER AWAITS PASSAGE As Administrator, He Would Have Under Roosevelt Vast Powers Over Business. LEADER IN DRAFTING BILL Plans Made to Put Measure in Operation Within Week After It Is Enacted. JOHNSON CHOSEN INDUSTRY CHIEF], The [[Associated Press]], May 19, 1933. </ref> According to economist Thayer Watkins (who teaches economic history<ref>[http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/economics/faculty/thayer.htm Thayer Watkins, Ph.D], San Jose State University.</ref> at California’s San José State University), Johnson was “an admirer of Mussolini’s National Corporatist system<ref>[http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/corporatism.htm The Economic System of Corporatism], Thayer Watkins, San José State University. </ref> in Italy and he drew upon the Italian experience in formulating the [[New Deal]].” Walker F. Todd, research fellow at the American Institute for Economic Research, agrees that Johnson “did admire greatly what Mussolini appeared to have done,” and identifies the NRA as a “thoroughly corporativist” <ref>[http://www.aei.org/docLib/Todd%20-%20The%20Federal%20Reserve%20Board%20and%20the%20Rise%20of%20the%20Corporate%20State.pdf The Federal Reserve Board and the Rise of the Corporate State, 1931-1934], Walter F. Todd, Economic Education Bulletin, Great Barrington, Massachusetts (ISSN 0424–2769) (USPS 167–360),</ref> idea.

Johnson was said to carry around with him a copy of Raffaello Viglione’s pro-Mussolini book,<ref>http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html</ref> ''The Corporate State''<ref>‘’http://books.google.com/books?id=vIJQHAAACAAJ</ref>, even presenting a copy to Secretary of Labor [[Frances Perkins]].<ref>Frances Perkins, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=AIEhAAAAMAAJ The Roosevelt I Knew]’’ (The Viking press, 1946) p. 206. Socialist (Kent Worcester, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=TwTTArAPWswC C.L.R. James: A Political Biography]’’ [SUNY Press, 1995] ISBN 079142751X, p. 175) George Rawich wrote that Perkins told him Johnson gave each member of the Cabinet a book by [http://www.marxists.org/archive/rawick/1969/xx/self.html Fascist theoretician Giovanni Gentile], “and we all read it with great care.” Schivelbusch suggests the book was actually [http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo172.html Mussolini advisor] Fausto Pitigliani’s ‘’The Italian Corporativist State.’’ (‘’Three New Deals’’, p. 203, n. 28)</ref> In his 1934 retirement speech, he invoked what he called the “shining name” of Mussolini.<ref>Arthur Meier Schlesinger, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=mj3VmJ38tHIC The coming of the New Deal, 1933-1935]’’ (Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 2003) ISBN 0618340866, p. 153</ref> According to Jonah Goldberg, Johnson displayed a portrait of ‘’Il Duce’’ in his NRA office and actually “distributed a memo at the Democratic Convention proposing that FDR become a Mussolini-like dictator.”<ref>http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mjc0ZmFlMDFiNDJkODdjYjE3NDY5OGVlY2JiZWRmNjM= </ref>

===Agricultrual Adjustment Administration===
:''Main article : '''[[Agricultural Adjustment Administration]]'''''
Roosevelt appointed Johnson’s former business partner [[George Peek]] to head the [[Agricultural Adjustment Administration]] (AAA). Both men had “worked with the War Industries Board, the agency that regulated American production during [[World War I]], and they believed their experience of managing an economy almost totally sealed off from the world market would suit the country now.”<ref> Eric Rauchway, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=BtSU6ZaCbzMC The Great Depression & the New Deal: A Very Short Introduction]’’ (Oxford University Press, 2008) ISBN 0195326342, p. 76</ref> They had long advocated a policy of expanding tariffs to keep foreign agricultural products out of the United States,<ref> William J. Barber , ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=Nks8pTPnsVYC From New Era to New Deal: Herbert Hoover, the Economists, and American Economic Policy, 1921-1933]’’ (Cambridge University Press, 1989) ISBN 0521367379, p. 50</ref> a policy that would have again rendered the U.S. economy “almost totally sealed off from the world market”<ref> Neil Vousden, ‘’[http://books.google.com/books?id=uabXBMnp7XgC The Economics of Trade Protection]’’ (Cambridge University Press, 1990) ISBN 052134669X, p. 91</ref>—a fair approximation of “ autarky,”<ref>http://www.economist.com/research/economics/alphabetic.cfm?letter=A#autarky</ref> an economic policy particularly but not exclusively “associated with Nazi economic organization.” <ref>http://www.history-ontheweb.co.uk/concepts/autarky.htm</ref>

===Admiration for Mussolini and Hitler===

The ''[[New York Times]]'' reported that the mood in [[Washington]] in 1933 was “strangely reminiscent of Rome in the first weeks after the march of the Blackshirts, of [[Moscow]] at the beginning of the Five-Year Plan... America today literally asks for orders.” The Roosevelt administration, reported the ''Times,'' “envisages a federation of industry, labor and government after the fashion of the corporative State as it exists in Italy.”<ref>http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60A1FFF3E5C16738DDDAE0894DD405B838FF1D3</ref>

Roosevelt privately found Mussolini "admirable," writing to his personal friend John Lawrence, "I don't mind telling you in confidence, that I am keeping in fairly close touch with that admirable Italian gentleman." <ref>David F. Schmitz, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=Pzt2AAAAMAAJ The United States and fascist Italy, 1922-1940]'' [University of North Carolina Press, 1988 ISBN 080781766X, p. 139)</ref> FDR also wrote to U.S. Ambassador to Italy Breckinridge Long about Mussolini, "I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and seeking to prevent general European trouble." <ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=aHEbAAAAIAAJ F.D.R., His Personal Letters, Vol. 3] [Ed. Elliott Roosevelt] [Duell, Sloan and Pearce, 1947], p. 352.</ref>

Hitler likewise expressed "admiration" for Roosevelt's economic policies, and said he was in accord with" Roosevelt's "moral demand," which he identified as the "quintessence of German philosophy of the State," as he wrote in a letter<ref>http://www.cdojerusalem.org/icons-multimedia/ClientsArea/HoH/LIBARC/ARCHIVE/Chapters/Forging/Foreign/Message.html</ref> to U.S. Ambassador to Germany [[William Dodd]].

===Fascist means to liberal ends===

[[George Soule]], editor of the pro-Roosevelt ''[[New Republic]]'' magazine, wrote in his 1934 book ''The Coming American Revolution'',<ref>George Soule, [http://books.google.com/books?ei=R4CcSoqXK6SCywSm9tzwDg&id=I89fAAAAIAAJ ''The Coming American Revolution]'', p. 294.</ref> "We are trying out the economics of Fascism without having suffered all its social or political ravages." In the ''North American Review'' in 1934, the progressive writer Roger Shaw described the New Deal as “Fascist means to gain liberal ends.”<ref>http://www.reason.com/news/show/122026.html</ref>

== World War II Era ==
Fascism as an ideological theory was comprehensively discredited in the eyes of most Westerners because of the defeat of the [[Axis]] powers in [[World War II]].

== Modern Times ==

"Fascist" is today frequently used as a term of abuse both on the left and on the right against one's political opponents. While few people are willing to describe themselves as fascists or endorse the fascist regimes of the past, fascist parties and parties descended from fascist parties (such as the [[Alleanza Nazionale]] in [[Italy]]) continue to be a minor force in European politics. Fascism seems not to flourish in countries with an Anglo-centric heritage: America, Australia and Canada have never had significant fascist movements, and the [[British Union of Fascists]] was never an important force in British politics; though it was significant enough for the government to consider its leader, Sir Oswald Mosley, dangerous enough to intern during the war.

==See Also==
*[[Nazism]]
==Further reading==
* Eatwell, Roger. ''Fascism: A History.'' (1996). 432 pp.
* Laqueur, Walter. ''Fascism: Past, Present, Future.'' (1996). 245 pp.
* Payne, Stanley G. ''A History of Fascism, 1914-1945.'' U. of Wisconsin Press, 1995. 613 pp. the standard history, by a leading conservative historian

==References==
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[[category:Forms of Government]]
[[category:Fascists]]
[[category:Dictators]]
[[category:World War II]]

Cold

2010-02-23T14:23:39Z

SilvioB:

A '''cold''' is a minor illness caused by viruses. It got its name from the belief (held in previous centuries) that exposure to cold or rainy weather could make you "catch cold". This was a major plot element in the {{years ago|1810}}-year-old novel [[Pride and Prejudice]], but it is not based on science.<ref>There is no evidence that you can get a cold from exposure to cold weather or from getting chilled or overheated. [http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes]</ref><ref>... during cold-weather months people spend more time indoors in close proximity to each other, thus facilitating the spread of the virus. [http://www.medicinenet.com/common_cold/article.htm#4doesit]</ref><ref>Eskimos and Lapps are not catching cold all the time, while Africans are not immune to it.</ref>

[[Schools]] facilitate the spread of colds. [[Homeschooling]] helps to avoid it.

==Notes==
<references />

[[Category:Diseases]]
[[Category:Contagious Diseases]]

Cold

2010-02-23T14:21:07Z

SilvioB:

A '''cold''' is a minor illness caused by viruses. It got its name from the belief (held in previous centuries) that exposure to cold or rainy weather could make you "catch cold". This was a major plot element in the {{years ago|1810}}-year-old novel [[Pride and Prejudice]], but it is not based on science.<ref>There is no evidence that you can get a cold from exposure to cold weather or from getting chilled or overheated. [http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes]</ref><ref>... during cold-weather months people spend more time indoors in close proximity to each other, thus facilitating the spread of the virus. [http://www.medicinenet.com/common_cold/article.htm#4doesit]</ref><ref>Eskimos and Lapps are not catching cold all the time, while Africans are not immune to it.</ref>

==Notes==
<references />

[[Category:Diseases]]
[[Category:Contagious Diseases]]

Talk:Fruits

2008-09-02T23:48:10Z

SilvioB: New page: Fruit redirects here. Shouldn't it be the opposite? --~~~~

[[Fruit]] redirects here. Shouldn't it be the opposite? --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:48, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Species

2008-09-02T23:28:18Z

SilvioB:

"A German Shepherd and a Beagle can mate, because they are different breeds within one species. " - There is no such thing a dog, because it's still a wolf? :) [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 15:53, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:Dogs were created by God, as were wolves. The relation between them is only because God willed it so. [[User:JohnI|JohnI]] 16:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::Tigers and lions are different species, but they can breed. Ability to reproduce does not define species. -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 16:08, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::They can, indeed, produce offspring, but such offspring are unable to produce more because they become infertile, same goes with donkeys and horses. [[User:JohnI|JohnI]] 16:11, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:::That is, actually, untrue. -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 16:27, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::::It is, actually, true. A female horse and a male donkey yields a mule. [[User:JohnI|JohnI]] 19:17, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Ability to reproduce defines species for the layman. So-called scientists may have a different definition, but they are not welcome here. The layman definition is all a good Christian needs to know, visit Wikipedia for a different one. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:28, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Debate:Is Sarah Palin an asset or a liability to John McCain's candidacy?

2008-09-02T23:25:21Z

SilvioB: /* Palin is an Asset */

{{debate}}

==Premise==

The surprise selection of Sarah Palin to be John McCain's running mate has energized his base and made the contest much more interesting than if he had chosen a more predictable prospect. As the nation gets to know more about her, though, some are questioning if Palin will be an asset or a liability as the campaigns move into high gear and the debates begin.

==Palin is an Asset==

This is obviously a transparent attempt to get the women's vote, but that doesn't mean it won't work. And she has some good experience too - both in business, and as govener of a city. That's a definite plus. Unfortunately I've had to make some criticisms in another comment, as she is far from perfect. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 15:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:She absolutely is an asset. The Democrats have hoped for a (their) woman President since Lisa Simpson and Hillary Clinton, how embarrassed would it be for them if a Republican is the first woman President? (4 years from now, obviously I'm not wishing for a premature departure by President McCain!). [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:07, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::So the Democrats have wanted a woman to be President since Hillary Clinton, and Palin could be the first woman president and the Democrats would be embarrassed. Besides all of that being debatable on its own, you have yet to explain how it's an asset for the GOP. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 16:12, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Because American voters see the opportunity I mentioned, and will turn in mass to vote for her (and McCain in the process). [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:43, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::::I have to feel a little sick at this - even if it works, it's not playing fair. It's ''manipulating'' voters - not talking them around with careful reason, shows of competence or popular policy. Just tricking them into voting for a candidate for an irrelivant reason. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 19:20, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:::::You misunderstood me completely. This is not manipulation or a trick. Democrats were weak and undecisive, Republicans instead seized the moment. People will vote ''en masse'' for her because in her they see the wind of change. It is called ''hope for the future'' and ''enthusiasm'', not manipulation. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:25, 2 September 2008 (EDT).
::Palin has seized control of the media, and left the Obama camp speechless. They cannot attack her lack of experience without weakening Obama. They cannot attack her being an outsider without ruining that theme for Obama. As for executive ability, her two years as governor give her more executive experience than the other three nominees combined. I expect the GOP will start highlighting her energy expertise. Dems can't even whisper an attack the behavior of her 17 year old daughter (Obama was into cocaine at that age). Palin and McCain control the "reform" and "outsider" issue--the choice of insider Biden meant Obama gave up that theme. (Obama's acceptance speech railed against long-time senators--meaning McCain but also Biden as well.)

Momentum means a lot in politics--Obama had it and squandered it in his faltering campaign against Hillary. Obama does have remarkable oratorical skills, and excellent fund-raising skills, and the GOP is in sad shape. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 16:56, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

:If the momentum was squandered, wouldn't his poll numbers be going down, as opposed to crossing 50% in the past few polls--the highest either candidate has polled at this cycle? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:09, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

==Palin is a Liability==
Palin is a woman and a mother. Already being Governor of a State she is neglecting her family duties. This is shown also in her daughter not knowing Conservative values well enough. [[User:HerculeP|HerculeP]] 14:25, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

It seems clear to me that Palin was chosen to tap into the 18 million voters for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. The campaign was trying to tap into voters who were supposedly turned off of the party because Clinton wasn't chosen Vice President. This attempt, which would seem to belittle women by believing they only supported Clinton because she's a female, ignores the VAST political differences between Clinton and Palin. In any case, the attempt seems to have fallen flat on its face. It cuts McCain's "experience" argument by choosing a candidate with virtually NO foreign relations experience. I've been to as many foreign countries as Palin has, and "visiting the troops" is a photo op, not quite the same as serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Also, being a mayor of a 5,000 population town may technically be "executive experience", but as Obama points out---the budget of the town, $12 million/year, is roughly the budget of one month on Obama's campaign. Can anyone seriously suggest that being mayor of 5,000 will prepare you to step in as the president of 300 million?

Finally, the polls don't bear out that she's helping the campaign. From Rasmussen: Some 38% of men said they were more likely to vote for McCain now, but only 32% of women. By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her, 48% to 25%. From Pollingreport.com: "Suppose you could cast two separate votes in November -- one just for president and another vote just for vice president. Who would you be more likely to vote for if you could vote separately for vice president: Joe Biden, the Democrat, or Sarah Palin, the Republican?"

Biden (D) 54
Palin (R) 41

"Do you agree or disagree with the following statements?"

"John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he felt the time had come to nominate a woman."

Agree 43
Disagree 56

"John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he thought having a woman on the ticket would help him get elected."

Agree 75
Disagree 25

This pick was a Hail Mary pass, and it's turning quickly into a Democratic interception. If I didn't know better, I'd think the Obama campaign scripted this pick. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:28, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

There are already scandels brewing - it looks as if Palin has a few skeletons in the closet:
* Her daughter, 17, unmarried, is now confirmed to be pregnent. This is a big turn-off for the values voters - if she can't keep her own daughter under control, how can she be trusted with the values of a nation? Just to make it worse, the father looks dodgy - some people grabed his myspace page before he took it private. He says he doesn't want children. And swears. A lot.
* Five children, one seriously disabled, and she is going to take on a job as demanding as Vice President, with a significent chance of president in future considering McCain's age. She might talk a lot about family values, but she doesn't seem to care that much for her own. Even more so in light of the above - doesn't her daughter need all the help she can get from an experienced mother right now?
* She brags of fighting the 'bridge to nowhere,' yet records show that she voted for it before changing her mind to vote against it.
It appears Palin is intended to be a safe pick to please the social conservatives - who, to be brutally honest, seem to care about abortion and gay marriage but very little else, and espicially little about the competance of candidates so long as they say the right magic words. That's why he picked someone with immaculate pro-life credentials, even to the point of having a child with Down's. Trying to appeal to that voting block, though, is pointless - McCain already has the social conservative vote, even if they dislike him, because they '''loathe''' Obama and the democratic party. Instead he has just picked up someone they are going to look at as a poser, a VP who puts on a big pro-family show in public while caring nothing for her own.
This is part of why I dislike McCain... has the social conservative positions, but he is just dropping with 'politicianness' - that oily residue that comes from trying to win at all costs, playing the games, manipulating the voters, putting his own power above all else. Clinton had it too, perhaps even more so. McCain is just using Palin as a tool, a way to get elected, to push the voters' buttons without any regard to her suitability as a VP. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 15:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

::First of all, thanks for the poll info Jareddr! I think that Palin is a very odd choice and is going to be a liability. Choosing her tends to negate the "lacks experience" criticism leveled at Obama. That line of criticism was really pretty effective and in fact as a Clinton supporter, it was something that made me shy away from him. Now he looks pretty good in comparison to Palin. Palin is under investigation. Even if she ends up being exonerated or given a slight slap on the wrist, it just doesn't seem like a good thing to have going on while running for VP. Palin is very young looking and makes McCain look really old. He looks like her grandfather! Not a good picture. It ends up putting a double whammy on the age/health issue for him. It makes him look like he could die in office and then what? President Palin? If he was trying to attract women and conservative christians, it seems like he could have done better. [[User:MichaelAnderson|MichaelAnderson]] 16:30, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Achilles

2008-09-02T23:05:10Z

SilvioB: I'm clumsy

I suggest changing the picture. If a nude man ''can't'' be shown (but then this should be applied to the article [[Sculpture]], specifically to the image of David), then use ''either'' another pic ''or'' the same pic, but cut from the waist. Covering some bodyparts was common in [[Renaissance|Rinascimental]] times, but it was done by professional artists, who devoted their whole professional life to that mission. Putting a blurb like that just attract undue attention by children and is an offense to the painter. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:02, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Achilles

2008-09-02T23:04:30Z

SilvioB:

I suggest changing the picture. If a nude man ''can't'' be shown (but then this should be applied to the article [[Sculpture]], specifically to the image of David, ''either'' another pic ''or'' the same pic, but cut from the waist. Covering some bodyparts was common in [[Renaissance|Rinascimental]] times, but it was done by professional artists, who devoted their whole professional life to that mission. Putting a blurb like that just attract undue attention by children and is an offense to the painter. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:02, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Achilles

2008-09-02T23:03:23Z

SilvioB:

I suggest changing the picture. If a nude man ''can't'' be shown (but then this should be applied to the article [[Sculpture]], specifically to the image of [http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:David_M David]), ''either'' another pic ''or'' the same pic, but cut from the waist. Covering some bodyparts was common in [[Renaissance|Rinascimental]] times, but it was done by professional artists, who devoted their whole professional life to that mission. Putting a blurb like that just attract undue attention by children and is an offense to the painter. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:02, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Achilles

2008-09-02T23:02:34Z

SilvioB: New page: I suggest changing the picture. If a nude man ''can't'' be shown (but then this should be applied to the article Sculpture, specifically to the image of David), ''eit...

I suggest changing the picture. If a nude man ''can't'' be shown (but then this should be applied to the article [[Sculpture]], specifically to the image of [[Image:David_M|David]]), ''either'' another pic ''or'' the same pic, but cut from the waist. Covering some bodyparts was common in [[Renaissance|Rinascimental]] times, but it was done by professional artists, who devoted their whole professional life to that mission. Putting a blurb like that just attract undue attention by children and is an offense to the painter. --[[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:02, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Union (mathematics)

2008-09-02T21:27:19Z

SilvioB:

In [[math]]ematics, a '''union''' of sets is a [[set]] of elements that belong only to at least one of the sets. The union of sets A and B is denoted A ∪ B and is formally defined as A ∪ B = {x|xϵA OR xϵB}.

[[Category:Mathematics]]

Debate:Is Sarah Palin an asset or a liability to John McCain's candidacy?

2008-09-02T20:43:52Z

SilvioB: /* Palin is an Asset */

{{debate}}

==Premise==

The surprise selection of Sarah Palin to be John McCain's running mate has energized his base and made the contest much more interesting than if he had chosen a more predictable prospect. As the nation gets to know more about her, though, some are questioning if Palin will be an asset or a liability as the campaigns move into high gear and the debates begin.

==Palin is an Asset==

This is obviously a transparent attempt to get the women's vote, but that doesn't mean it won't work. And she has some good experience too - both in business, and as govener of a city. That's a definate plus. Unfortunatly I've had to make some criticisms in another comment, as she is far from perfect. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 15:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:She absolutely is an asset. The Democrats have hoped for a (their) woman President since Lisa Simpson and Hillary Clinton, how embarassed would it be for them if a Republican is the first woman President? (4 years from now, obviously I'm not wishing for a premature departure by President McCain!). [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:07, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
::So the Democrats have wanted a woman to be President since Hillary Clinton, and Palin could be the first woman president and the Democrats would be embarrassed. Besides all of that being debatable on its own, you have yet to explain how it's an asset for the GOP. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 16:12, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Because American voters see the opportunity I mentioned, and will turn in mass to vote for her (and McCain in the process). [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:43, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

==Palin is a Liability==
Palin is a woman and a mother. Already being Governor of a State she is neglecting her family duties. This is shown also in her daughter not knowing Conservative values well enough. [[User:HerculeP|HerculeP]] 14:25, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

It seems clear to me that Palin was chosen to tap into the 18 million voters for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. The campaign was trying to tap into voters who were supposedly turned off of the party because Clinton wasn't chosen Vice President. This attempt, which would seem to belittle women by believing they only supported Clinton because she's a female, ignores the VAST political differences between Clinton and Palin. In any case, the attempt seems to have fallen flat on its face. It cuts McCain's "experience" argument by choosing a candidate with virtually NO foreign relations experience. I've been to as many foreign countries as Palin has, and "visiting the troops" is a photo op, not quite the same as serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Also, being a mayor of a 5,000 population town may technically be "executive experience", but as Obama points out---the budget of the town, $12 million/year, is roughly the budget of one month on Obama's campaign. Can anyone seriously suggest that being mayor of 5,000 will prepare you to step in as the president of 300 million?

Finally, the polls don't bear out that she's helping the campaign. From Rasmussen: Some 38% of men said they were more likely to vote for McCain now, but only 32% of women. By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her, 48% to 25%. From Pollingreport.com: "Suppose you could cast two separate votes in November -- one just for president and another vote just for vice president. Who would you be more likely to vote for if you could vote separately for vice president: Joe Biden, the Democrat, or Sarah Palin, the Republican?"

Biden (D) 54
Palin (R) 41

"Do you agree or disagree with the following statements?"

"John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he felt the time had come to nominate a woman."

Agree 43
Disagree 56

"John McCain chose Sarah Palin because he thought having a woman on the ticket would help him get elected."

Agree 75
Disagree 25

This pick was a Hail Mary pass, and it's turning quickly into a Democratic interception. If I didn't know better, I'd think the Obama campaign scripted this pick. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:28, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

There are already scandels brewing - it looks as if Palin has a few skeletons in the closet:
* Her daughter, 17, unmarried, is now confirmed to be pregnent. This is a big turn-off for the values voters - if she can't keep her own daughter under control, how can she be trusted with the values of a nation?
* Five children, one seriously disabled, and she is going to take on a job as demanding as Vice President, with a significent chance of president in future considering McCain's age. She might talk a lot about family values, but she doesn't seem to care that much for her own. Even more so in light of the above - doesn't her daughter need all the help she can get from an experienced mother right now?
* She brags of fighting the 'bridge to nowhere,' yet records show that she voted for it before changing her mind to vote against it.
It appears Palin is intended to be a safe pick to please the social conservatives - who, to be brutally honest, seem to care about abortion and gay marriage but very little else, and espicially little about the competance of candidates so long as they say the right magic words. That's why he picked someone with immaculate pro-life credentials, even to the point of having a child with Down's. Trying to appeal to that voting block, though, is pointless - McCain already has the social conservative vote, even if they dislike him, because they '''loathe''' Obama and the democratic party. Instead he has just picked up someone they are going to look at as a poser, a VP who puts on a big pro-family show in public while caring nothing for her own.
This is part of why I dislike McCain... has the social conservative positions, but he is just dropping with 'politicianness' - that oily residue that comes from trying to win at all costs, playing the games, manipulating the voters, putting his own power above all else. Clinton had it too, perhaps even more so. McCain is just using Palin as a tool, a way to get elected, to push the voters' buttons without any regard to her suitability as a VP. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 15:00, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

::First of all, thanks for the poll info Jareddr! I think that Palin is a very odd choice and is going to be a liability. Choosing her tends to negate the "lacks experience" criticism leveled at Obama. That line of criticism was really pretty effective and in fact as a Clinton supporter, it was something that made me shy away from him. Now he looks pretty good in comparison to Palin. Palin is under investigation. Even if she ends up being exonerated or given a slight slap on the wrist, it just doesn't seem like a good thing to have going on while running for VP. Palin is very young looking and makes McCain look really old. He looks like her grandfather! Not a good picture. It ends up putting a double whammy on the age/health issue for him. It makes him look like he could die in office and then what? President Palin? If he was trying to attract women and conservative christians, it seems like he could have done better. [[User:MichaelAnderson|MichaelAnderson]] 16:30, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Debate:Is Sarah Palin an asset or a liability to John McCain's candidacy?

2008-09-02T20:07:11Z

SilvioB: /* Palin is an Asset */

Talk:Multiplication

2008-08-31T00:47:40Z

SilvioB: /* Multiplication table */ new section

==Removing Bible material whose relevance to multiplication is slim==
:Multiplication is mentioned in the [[Bible]] when God tells [[Noah]] to go forth and [[multiplication|multiply]]. (Joke! Really that is a different kind of multiplication.) However, Noah did have to use multiplication when he made the [[ark]], because [[Genesis]] 6:15 says:
::And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.
:So Noah knew the [[ark]] had to be a volume of 300 times 50 times 30 is 450000 cubics3, to fit two of all the animals in the world in it.

Since the first sentence is acknowledged to be a joke and not to refer to the arithmetic operation, it shouldn't be there.

The Ark example isn't very good, for two reasons. First, in the Bible, the product of the three numbers is not mentioned, so this is not an example of a use of multiplication in the Bible. (It would be very relevant in an article about the three dimensions of ordinary space).

Second, the computation as presented is almost certainly wrong, since the Ark was surely shaped shaped like a boat, not like a rectangular box, and therefore its volume would '''not''' have been 450,000 cubits3 but some subtantially smaller number, which cannot be calculated exactly from the given data. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:02, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

== Multiplication table ==

This article should have the multiplication table ("times table"). I suppose that the generic child using Conservapedia already knows it, but having it for review purposes can't harm. In addition (pun not intended!), the table makes it easier to understand the whole concept of multiplication. Unfortunately, I'm completely wiki-ignorant, and don't know how to insert tables in articles. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 20:47, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

User talk:Toffeeman

2008-08-29T21:12:47Z

SilvioB: /* Liverpool vs Everton */ new section

== Thanks ==

Be sure to check my note for Jcane's block, too, for added amusement. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 12:46, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

== Liverpool vs Everton ==

Normally I'd report such an edit to the Administrators ;-) but... the edit was factual! :-D Good luck with Standard Liege in UEFA Cup: this is the moment to show you don't need Extra Time as your red cousins did. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 17:12, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:29:28Z

SilvioB: /* Oh, boy... */

Don't consider me sexist but... she at least looks a woman. Not like that Hillary who'd grow moustaches if she could. --[[User:AdamE|AdamE]] 11:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Maybe not sexist but decidedly un-gallant and not a little silly. Hilary Clinton looks every inch a woman. If she looks less attractive than Sarah Palin that might just have something to do with the age difference: on the same basis I'd be much more worried if Obama was after my wife than if McCain were! C'mon, if attractivness was relevant you'd be lining up to vote Obama in. --[[User:Toffeeman|Toffeeman]] 11:30, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

== Her other son, Trig. ==

Should such a private and personal happening as that of her second son be brought to the general public? On one hand, it is only her and her family's matter, but on the other hand it shows that her acts are as honorable as her words. At least I was dubious on her at first, but reading more and more on her I am convinced that she is the Vice President America and the world need. I'm sure even liberals aknowledge her courage and that she did the right thing with Trig. But I leave it to those more knowledgeable to include such familiar matters or not in the article. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 15:17, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

== Oh, boy... ==

Cue the whitewashing. I'm gonna guess the polar bear section will be deleted or completely rewritten within 24 hours. As it stands, it certainly seems like a good example of "[[liberal bias]]". [[User:Egen|Egen]] 15:26, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
:I suggest to close this article from editing for a few days or at least hours. It's clear that it will become a favorite target for vandals. I'm sure if changes have to be made, Administrators will be able to make them well. I'm not suggesting a long term block, mind you, just to let things calm down. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 15:29, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:19:45Z

SilvioB: /* State Legislature Investigation */ innocent until proven guilty

[[Image:Sarah Palin.jpg|right|thumb]] '''Sarah Louise Palin''' (born February 11, 1964) is the [[conservative]] first-term Republican [[governor]] of [[Alaska]]. She is the youngest person to hold this honor as well as the first woman to do so in the state's history. Palin is Senator [[John McCain]]'s Vice Presidential running mate in the [[2008 Presidential Election]].

Sarah's parents arrived in Alaska in 1964 to teach school in Skagway.

She earned her Journalism degree from the University of [[Idaho]] and worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.

Ms. Palin was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska's fastest growing community (Population: 5400)<ref>[http://wasilla.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm Wasilla Population and Demographics]</ref>. Ms. Palin's leadership qualities were recognized when she was elected as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors despite being a woman.

She has served as chairman of Alaska's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's [[non-renewable energy|non-renewable]] resources: [[oil]] and [[gasoline|gas]]. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. She was named one of Alaska's "Top 40 Under 40", Alaska's Public Works "Person of the Year", and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.

Married to the three-time champion of the world's longest [[snowmobile]] race ([[the Iron Dog]]), her husband is also a lifelong Alaskan and is a production operator on the [[North Slope]].

Ms. Palin has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer. A lifetime member of the [[NRA]], she enjoys hunting, fishing, and Alaska history. <ref>http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php Alaska Governor Sarah Palin</ref> On the issue of [[abortion]], she describes herself as "pro-life."<ref>http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm</ref>

In 2007, Palin's 18-year old son, Track, enlisted in the [[Army]]. <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6920410,00.html</ref>

==Polar bears==

Fox News reported that:
* The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of [[polar bears]] as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday [May 21, 2008].
* She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.
* Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.
* Climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice, the main habitat of polar bears, during summers are unreliable, said Palin. <ref>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357065,00.html?sPage=fnc/scitech/naturalscience</ref>

==State Legislature Investigation==
In August of 2008, the [[Alaska]] state legislature began an investigation of Palin and her staff for potential abuse of power in regards to a firing of Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan. Monegan was dismissed from his position in July of 2008. He alleged that Palin fired him because he refused to fire Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister. Palin has not been found guilty of any charges yet.

==Vice Presidential Candidate==
On August 29, 2008, Palin was announced to be the Vice Presidential nominee for Republican Senator John McCain<ref>http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126138.html</ref>. The selection was a surprise, as those in the media were expecting [[Minnesota]] Governor [[Tim Pawlenty]] or former [[Massachusetts]]'s Governor [[Mitt Romney]]. [[Conservapedia]] was among the first to spread the news. Palin adds youth and executive experience to the ticket. She is the second female Vice Presidential candidate of a major party in U.S. history and the first one on a Republican ticket. The last female Vice Presidential candidate was 24 years ago.

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ State of Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin Official Website]
*[http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add37305ddcbeeb501010a0/?vgnextoid=864bb9006da3f010VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD National Governor's Association - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin]
*[http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=27200 Project Vote Smart - Governor Sarah H. Palin]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Palin, Sarah}}

[[Category:Alaska Governors]]
[[Category:Republican Governors]]

Talk:Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:17:37Z

SilvioB: /* Her other son, Trig. */ new section

Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:04:45Z

SilvioB: /* Vice Presidential Candidate */

[[Image:Sarah Palin.jpg|right|thumb]] '''Sarah Palin''' (born February 11, 1964) is the [[conservative]] first-term Republican [[governor]] of [[Alaska]]. She is the youngest person to hold this honor as well as the first woman to do so in the state's history. Palin is Senator [[John McCain]]'s Vice Presidential running mate in the [[2008 Presidential Election]].

Sarah's parents arrived in Alaska in 1964 to teach school in Skagway.

She earned her Journalism degree from the University of [[Idaho]] and worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.

Ms. Palin was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska's fastest growing community (Population: 5400)<ref>[http://wasilla.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm Wasilla Population and Demographics]</ref>. Ms. Palin's leadership qualities were recognized when she was elected as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors despite being a woman.

She has served as chairman of Alaska's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's [[non-renewable energy|non-renewable]] resources: [[oil]] and [[gasoline|gas]]. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. She was named one of Alaska's "Top 40 Under 40", Alaska's Public Works "Person of the Year", and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.

Married to the three-time champion of the world's longest [[snowmobile]] race ([[the Iron Dog]]), her husband is also a lifelong Alaskan and is a production operator on the [[North Slope]].

Ms. Palin has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer. A lifetime member of the [[NRA]], she enjoys hunting, fishing, and Alaska history. <ref>http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php Alaska Governor Sarah Palin</ref> On the issue of [[abortion]], she describes herself as "pro-life."<ref>http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm</ref>

In 2007, Palin's 18-year old son, Track, enlisted in the [[Army]]. <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6920410,00.html</ref>

==Polar bears==

Fox News reported that:
* The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of [[polar bears]] as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday [May 21, 2008].
* She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.
* Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.
* Climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice, the main habitat of polar bears, during summers are unreliable, said Palin. <ref>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357065,00.html?sPage=fnc/scitech/naturalscience</ref>

==State Legislature Investigation==
In August of 2008, the [[Alaska]] state legislature began an investigation of Palin and her staff for potential abuse of power in regards to a firing of Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan. Monegan was dismissed from his position in July of 2008. He alleged that Palin fired him because he refused to fire Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister. Palin hasn't been found guilty of anything.

==Vice Presidential Candidate==
On August 29, 2008, Palin was announced to be the Vice Presidential nominee for Republican Senator John McCain<ref>http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126138.html</ref>. The selection was a surprise, as those in the media were expecting [[Minnesota]] Governor [[Tim Pawlenty]] or former [[Massachusetts]]'s Governor [[Mitt Romney]]. [[Conservapedia]] was among the first to spread the news. Palin adds youth and executive experience to the ticket. She is the second female Vice Presidential candidate of a major party in U.S. history and the first one on a Republican ticket. The last female Vice Presidential candidate was 24 years ago.

When asked in the past about being McCain's vice presidential pick, she responded on Larry Kudlow of CNBC: "[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?"<ref>[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html Palin dissed veep job]</ref> Obviously that answer isn't to be taken literally. And you can be sure that she knows what is expected from her position.

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ State of Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin Official Website]
*[http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add37305ddcbeeb501010a0/?vgnextoid=864bb9006da3f010VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD National Governor's Association - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin]
*[http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=27200 Project Vote Smart - Governor Sarah H. Palin]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Palin, Sarah}}

[[Category:Alaska Governors]]
[[Category:Republican Governors]]

Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:03:02Z

SilvioB: /* Vice Presidential Candidate */

[[Image:Sarah Palin.jpg|right|thumb]] '''Sarah Palin''' (born February 11, 1964) is the [[conservative]] first-term Republican [[governor]] of [[Alaska]]. She is the youngest person to hold this honor as well as the first woman to do so in the state's history. Palin is Senator [[John McCain]]'s Vice Presidential running mate in the [[2008 Presidential Election]].

Sarah's parents arrived in Alaska in 1964 to teach school in Skagway.

She earned her Journalism degree from the University of [[Idaho]] and worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.

Ms. Palin was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska's fastest growing community (Population: 5400)<ref>[http://wasilla.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm Wasilla Population and Demographics]</ref>. Ms. Palin's leadership qualities were recognized when she was elected as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors despite being a woman.

She has served as chairman of Alaska's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's [[non-renewable energy|non-renewable]] resources: [[oil]] and [[gasoline|gas]]. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. She was named one of Alaska's "Top 40 Under 40", Alaska's Public Works "Person of the Year", and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.

Married to the three-time champion of the world's longest [[snowmobile]] race ([[the Iron Dog]]), her husband is also a lifelong Alaskan and is a production operator on the [[North Slope]].

Ms. Palin has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer. A lifetime member of the [[NRA]], she enjoys hunting, fishing, and Alaska history. <ref>http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php Alaska Governor Sarah Palin</ref> On the issue of [[abortion]], she describes herself as "pro-life."<ref>http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm</ref>

In 2007, Palin's 18-year old son, Track, enlisted in the [[Army]]. <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6920410,00.html</ref>

==Polar bears==

Fox News reported that:
* The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of [[polar bears]] as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday [May 21, 2008].
* She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.
* Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.
* Climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice, the main habitat of polar bears, during summers are unreliable, said Palin. <ref>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357065,00.html?sPage=fnc/scitech/naturalscience</ref>

==State Legislature Investigation==
In August of 2008, the [[Alaska]] state legislature began an investigation of Palin and her staff for potential abuse of power in regards to a firing of Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan. Monegan was dismissed from his position in July of 2008. He alleged that Palin fired him because he refused to fire Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister. Palin hasn't been found guilty of anything.

==Vice Presidential Candidate==
On August 29, 2008, Palin was announced to be the Vice Presidential nominee for Republican Senator John McCain<ref>http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126138.html</ref>. The selection was a surprise, as those in the media were expecting [[Minnesota]] Governor [[Tim Pawlenty]] or former [[Massachusetts]]'s Governor [[Mitt Romney]]. [[Conservapedia]] was among the first to spread the news. Palin adds youth and executive experience to the ticket. She is the second female Vice Presidential candidate of a major party in U.S. history and the first one on a Republican ticket. The last female Vice Presidential candidate was 24 years ago.

When asked in the past about being McCain's vice presidential pick, she responded on Larry Kudlow of CNBC: "[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?"<ref>[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html Palin dissed veep job]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ State of Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin Official Website]
*[http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add37305ddcbeeb501010a0/?vgnextoid=864bb9006da3f010VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD National Governor's Association - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin]
*[http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=27200 Project Vote Smart - Governor Sarah H. Palin]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Palin, Sarah}}

[[Category:Alaska Governors]]
[[Category:Republican Governors]]

Sarah Palin

2008-08-29T19:02:08Z

SilvioB: /* State Legislature Investigation */

[[Image:Sarah Palin.jpg|right|thumb]] '''Sarah Palin''' (born February 11, 1964) is the [[conservative]] first-term Republican [[governor]] of [[Alaska]]. She is the youngest person to hold this honor as well as the first woman to do so in the state's history. Palin is Senator [[John McCain]]'s Vice Presidential running mate in the [[2008 Presidential Election]].

Sarah's parents arrived in Alaska in 1964 to teach school in Skagway.

She earned her Journalism degree from the University of [[Idaho]] and worked in media and the utility industry before beginning her public service 14 years ago.

Ms. Palin was elected to two terms on the Wasilla City Council, and then two terms as the Mayor / Manager of Alaska's fastest growing community (Population: 5400)<ref>[http://wasilla.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm Wasilla Population and Demographics]</ref>. Ms. Palin's leadership qualities were recognized when she was elected as President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors despite being a woman.

She has served as chairman of Alaska's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's [[non-renewable energy|non-renewable]] resources: [[oil]] and [[gasoline|gas]]. She also served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission. She was named one of Alaska's "Top 40 Under 40", Alaska's Public Works "Person of the Year", and was recently inducted into the Sigma Beta Delta Honor Society at Alaska Pacific University.

Married to the three-time champion of the world's longest [[snowmobile]] race ([[the Iron Dog]]), her husband is also a lifelong Alaskan and is a production operator on the [[North Slope]].

Ms. Palin has served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the State, and stays active as a marathon runner, sports team mom, hockey manager and school volunteer. A lifetime member of the [[NRA]], she enjoys hunting, fishing, and Alaska history. <ref>http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php Alaska Governor Sarah Palin</ref> On the issue of [[abortion]], she describes herself as "pro-life."<ref>http://www.ontheissues.org/Governor/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm</ref>

In 2007, Palin's 18-year old son, Track, enlisted in the [[Army]]. <ref>http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6920410,00.html</ref>

==Polar bears==

Fox News reported that:
* The state of Alaska will sue to challenge the recent listing of [[polar bears]] as a threatened species, Gov. Sarah Palin announced Wednesday [May 21, 2008].
* She and other Alaska elected officials fear a listing will cripple oil and gas development in prime polar bear habitat off the state's northern and northwestern coasts.
* Palin argued that there is not enough evidence to support a listing. Polar bears are well-managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation, she said.
* Climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice, the main habitat of polar bears, during summers are unreliable, said Palin. <ref>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357065,00.html?sPage=fnc/scitech/naturalscience</ref>

==State Legislature Investigation==
In August of 2008, the [[Alaska]] state legislature began an investigation of Palin and her staff for potential abuse of power in regards to a firing of Commissioner of Public Safety Walter Monegan. Monegan was dismissed from his position in July of 2008. He alleged that Palin fired him because he refused to fire Alaska State Trooper Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody battle with Palin's sister. Palin hasn't been found guilty of anything.

==Vice Presidential Candidate==
On August 29, 2008, Palin was announced to be the Vice Presidential nominee for Republican Senator John McCain<ref>http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/sarah_palin_vp/2008/08/29/126138.html</ref>. The selection was a surprise, as those in the media were expecting [[Minnesota]] Governor [[Tim Pawlenty]] or former [[Massachusetts]]'s Governor [[Mitt Romney]]. Palin adds youth and executive experience to the ticket. She is the second female Vice Presidential candidate of a major party in U.S. history and the first one on a Republican ticket. The last female Vice Presidential candidate was 24 years ago.

When asked in the past about being McCain's vice presidential pick, she responded on Larry Kudlow of CNBC: "[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day?"<ref>[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12969.html Palin dissed veep job]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[http://www.gov.state.ak.us/ State of Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin Official Website]
*[http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.29fab9fb4add37305ddcbeeb501010a0/?vgnextoid=864bb9006da3f010VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD National Governor's Association - Alaska Governor Sarah Palin]
*[http://votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=27200 Project Vote Smart - Governor Sarah H. Palin]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Palin, Sarah}}

[[Category:Alaska Governors]]
[[Category:Republican Governors]]

Pope Pius XII

2008-08-29T18:44:53Z

SilvioB:

'''Pope Pius XII''' (March 2, 1876 – October 9, 1958), was the 260th [[pope]] of the [[Roman Catholic]] Church. He served from March 2, 1939 until his death. He was proceeded by [[Pius XI]], and succeeded by [[John XXIII]].

Pope Pius was born Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli on March 2, 1876 in Rome, Italy. He was ordained into the priesthood on April 2, 1899.

He served as Pope during World War II. Israeli scholar [[Pinchas Lapide]] stated in his book, ''The Last Three Popes'', that the Church under Pius’ pontificate, “was instrumental in saving the lives of 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands. The figure far exceeds those saved by all other churches and rescue operations combined.”

Upon the death of Pope Pius, Israeli Prime Minister [[Golda Mier]], commented that, “During the ten years of Nazi terror, when our people went through the horrors of martyrdom, the Pope raised his voice to condemn the persecutors and to commiserate with their victims.”

In 1963, a play was produced declaring Pope Pius XII was a Nazi collaborator that did not speak out against the Holocaust. It was discovered in 2007 that the play was actually part of a Soviet Union campaign to discredit Pope Pius XII.

[[Category:Popes|Gregory VII, Pope]]

Talk:Dolomites

2008-08-29T18:07:31Z

SilvioB:

I don't have upload rights (and I don't want them). It would be nice if someone found a copyright free photograph of the Dolomites! [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 14:07, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Dolomites

2008-08-29T18:07:11Z

SilvioB: New page: I don't have upload rights and I don't want them. It would be nice if someone found a copyright free photographs of the Dolomites! ~~~~

I don't have upload rights and I don't want them. It would be nice if someone found a copyright free photographs of the Dolomites! [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 14:07, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

Dolomites

2008-08-29T18:05:35Z

SilvioB: New page: The '''Dolomites''' are a Mountain group in Northeastern Italy. It belongs to the Alps mountain chain. The Dolomites are considered one of the most beautiful mountain groups in...

The '''Dolomites''' are a [[Mountain]] group in Northeastern [[Italy]]. It belongs to the [[Alps]] mountain chain. The Dolomites are considered one of the most beautiful mountain groups in the world. They get a characteristic pink/orange colour at sunset.

[[Category:Mountains]]

Alps

2008-08-29T17:59:21Z

SilvioB:

'''The Alps''' are a substantial mountain range extending across much of central [[Europe]] from [[France]] (Maritime Alps), through [[Switzerland]], northern [[Italy]] (including [[Dolomites]]), southern [[Germany]] (Bavarian Alps), [[Liechtenstein]] and [[Austria]], as far as the [[Balkans]] (Dinaric Alps) and [[Romania]] (Transylvanian Alps).

The highest peak in the Alps is Mont Blanc (15,774 feet), on the France-Italy border. Other notable Alpine mountains include the Matterhorn, Eiger, Jungfrau and Großglockner. A number of small [[glacier]]s remain in the Alps but are shrinking rapidly. The Alps also contain several of the world's deepest [[cave]] systems.

The Alps were the cradle of the sport of [[mountaineering]], and house a large number of [[skiing|ski]] resorts.

[[Category:Mountains]]

Ladin

2008-08-29T17:57:59Z

SilvioB:

'''Ladin''' is a [[Romance language]] spoken in a few valleys of the [[Dolomites]] mountains in Northeastern Italy. It is not to be confused with [[Romansh]], one of the four official languages of [[Switzerland]], which is sometimes incorrectly called Ladin. Both Ladin and Romansh belong to the family of [[Rhaeto-Romance]] languages, but their common origin hasn't been decisively proved.
[[Category:Romance languages]]

Ladin

2008-08-29T17:57:07Z

SilvioB:

'''Ladin''' is a [[Romance]] language spoken in a few valleys of the [[Dolomites]] mountains in Northeastern Italy. It is not to be confused with [[Romansh]], one of the four official languages of [[Switzerland]], which is sometimes incorrectly called Ladin. Both Ladin and Romansh belong to the family of [[Rhaeto-Romance]] languages, but their common origin hasn't been decisively proved.
[[Category:Romance languages]]

Ladin

2008-08-29T17:56:13Z

SilvioB: New page: '''Ladin''' is a Romance language spoken in a few valleys of the Dolomites mountains in Northeastern Italy. It is not to be confused with Romansh, one of the four official lang...

Occitan language

2008-08-29T17:46:37Z

SilvioB: completed

The '''Occitan language''' is spoken in the south of [[France]], in Northwestern [[Italy]] and some areas of [[Spain]]. There also is an enclave in Southern Italy. It evolved (changed over time) from medieval [[French]], but is now more closely related to the [[Catalan language]] of nearby [[Catalonia]], [[Spain]].

[[Category:Romance languages]]

Occitan language

2008-08-29T17:45:33Z

SilvioB:

The '''Occitan language''' is spoken in the south of [[France]] and in Northwestern [[Italy]]. It evolved (changed over time) from medieval [[French]], but is now more closely related to the [[Catalan language]] of nearby [[Catalonia]], [[Spain]].

[[Category:Romance languages]]

Catalan language

2008-08-29T17:44:55Z

SilvioB: too limited

The '''Catalan language''' is a [[Romance language]]. It is the official language of [[Andorra]]. It is also widely spoken in the [[Catalonia]] (Cat: ''Catalunya'') and [[Valencia]] regions of [[Spain]], the extreme southeast of [[France]], and parts of the [[Italy|Italian]] [[island]] of [[Sardinia]]. Because of its prevalence in Valencia, it is also known as the Valencian language. It is closely related to the [[Occitan language]].

[[Category:Romance languages]]
[[Category:Spain]]
[[Category:France]]
[[Category:Italy]]

Talk:Debate: should atheists be barred from Conservapedia?

2008-08-19T23:54:25Z

SilvioB: /* Clearly a Parodist */

Wow, just think of all the mental illness you could prevent by keeping the views of atheists off this site - it's practically a public health initiative. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:27, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Dear Dinsdale, If you have an opinion, why don't you voice it in the debate, rather than using sarcasm? That is what debates are for. And what has mental illness to do with this? --[[User:EmilyC|EmilyC]] 09:33, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

:I made my comment here because it is indeed sarcasm, and I wanted to keep it off of the debate itself so it doesn't devolve into people taking shots at each other. (Note that Aschlafly has endorsed the use of sarcasm when appropriate, but it needs to be expressed in the proper place). Frankly, Bugler's proposal is so ridiculous that addressing it seriously is to give it credibility, which I will not do. As for the mental illness reference, you must have missed reading [[Talk:Mystery:Do Liberal Teachings Cause Mental Illness?]] --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 10:25, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

== Clearly a Parodist ==

I'm sorry, I don't want to make random accusations, but I've seen some of Bugler's edits lately, and I for one am convinced that this is the work of a parodist. If I'm wrong, then I apologize, and I understand criticism of atheists and liberals, Bugler takes this to the point that I cannot believe he is genuine. [[User:MikeR|MikeR]] 19:23, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
:That's quite a strong accusation. Do you have a specific edit in mind? Discrediting valuable contributors is the desperate's tactic. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 19:54, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Real number

2008-08-17T21:30:04Z

SilvioB: /* Again: Real vs. Imaginary */

==Moved comment from Anjruu==
The introduction is actually a blatant misrepresentation of the truth. Real numbers are no more or less "abstract" than imaginary numbers. The author, one must conclude, was trying to allude to the fact that there cannot be an imaginary number of objects, but there cannot be a negative number of objects either. Or perhaps s/he was trying to say that the imaginary numbers cannot be represented on the number line, which is irrelevant, since they can be represented on the complex plane, an equally valid, and more complete, numerical device. Finally, perhaps the author simply meant that the square root of a negative number does not exist, which is wrong. It does exist, in the guise of an imaginary number. While this may seem cyclical, simply because a number is "unusual" does not mean that it is abstract and non-existent.

Illustrations of this fact, and the incorrectness of the introduction, can be seen when solving differential equations which contain a bifurcation parameter, where the method of eigenvalues must be used. There, an complex, "imaginary" solution to one of several equations often contains eigenvalues and thus a corresponding eigenfunction. Therefore, the real-life existent solution to a real-life existent problem depends on an imaginary number. This exemplifies why complex numbers are just as valid as real numbers, and are not merely an "abstract concept," as the introduction erroneously points out. Or to be more precise, ALL of mathematics is an abstract concept, but there exists an isomorphism to the "real world"; an isomorphism that holds just as strongly in the domain of complex numbers as in the subset of complex numbers, the reals.

----

==The "real" world==
Re: this sentence from the intro:
<blockquote>
''They are called "real" because they actually exist as quantities in the real world, i.e. as measures, weights, temperatures. In contrast, the imaginary numbers are just an abstract concept, but do not exist concretely in the real world.''
</blockquote>
The bulk of that statement simply isn't correct, which is why I removed it earlier. Historically, it was thought that imaginary numbers didn't "really exist," but for the last 200 years or so it's been understood that they do; I believe Cauchy and Gauss were heavily involved in putting that question to bed. Furthermore, there are indeed physical applications of complex numbers. Anything with a magnitude and phase (think alternating current, any harmonic oscillator, communications signals, etc.) is conveniently represented by complex numbers, and they are absolutely essential in quantum mechanics.
:: I second this motion: this sentence should be erased. ''Real numbers'' are as real - or imaginary - as complex numbers. --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 15:41, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
'''EDIT:''' I've altered the sentence in question to reflect my comment.--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 15:30, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

==Again: Real vs. Imaginary==
The statement ''The term "real number" is in contrast to the imaginary numbers.'' (RSchlafly) is IMO a false dichotomy and shouldn't be put in the article.
I like the sentence: ''In classical physics, measurements of real world physical objects that can vary smoothly and continuously, like speed or temperature, are treated as real numbers. '' as it doesn't presuppose the existence of real numbers, but - analogously - you can state: ''In physics, measurements of real world physical objects that can vary smoothly and continuously - and exist from an angular compound and an absolute value - like current or voltage, are treated as complex numbers.'' --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 16:30, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

: I don't understand your point. The terms ''real number'' and ''imaginary number'' are in common use. Are you denying that? Are you saying that they are not in contrast? What do you want? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 18:35, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

:: Of course, I don't deny the terms. And I acknowledge that the ''terms'' - which can be understood in their historical context - are contrasting. But I don't like the idea to think of the ''real numbers'' as more '''real''' than the ''imaginary numbers'' - especially not because of an etymological reasoning: To quote Kronecker: ''"Die ganzen Zahlen hat der liebe Gott gemacht, alles andere ist Menschenwerk"''--[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 16:47, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
:::Huh? Real numbers are those people concretely use. You can express any amount of dollars with real numbers. What would 3 + 2i dollars mean? Or the length of a segment or a curve: it is "real" and expressed in real numbers. Imaginary numbers are just ''imaginary'' constructions to help our calculations. They don't refer to "real" concepts people use. Thus, the historical meaning of real vs. imaginary is still valid for normal people - and homeschooled students who use Conservapedia to learn. I absolutely agree with RSchlafly. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:53, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
::::Actually, you can express any amount of currency with rational numbers. That doesn't make the real numbers any less "real," does it? Using your logic, I could say "Pi is a real number. What does pi dollars mean? Nothing. Therefore, the real numbers don't exist." Again, imaginary numbers are ''not'' "just imaginary." They exist just as much as any other number, and have several practical applications.--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 17:21, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
::::For currency, you use a subset of the rational numbers, i.e., finite decimal fractions (even less, generally: <math>\mathbb{Z} / 100</math>. To speak of <math>\pi</math> dollars (or even $<math>\sqrt{2}</math>) is as surreal as to speak of ''3 + 2i'' dollars. ''Real numbers'' which aren't rational, are just a figment of our imagination, invented to ''help our calculations'', too--[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 17:25, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::I realized that and that's why I gave a second example, that of the length of a segment. Do you people really consider real numbers and imaginary numbers equal from the point of view of normal people? Let's not forget who is the target of this project. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 17:30, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Real number

2008-08-17T20:54:09Z

SilvioB: /* Again: Real vs. Imaginary */

Talk:Real number

2008-08-17T20:53:26Z

SilvioB: /* Again: Real vs. Imaginary */

==Moved comment from Anjruu==
The introduction is actually a blatant misrepresentation of the truth. Real numbers are no more or less "abstract" than imaginary numbers. The author, one must conclude, was trying to allude to the fact that there cannot be an imaginary number of objects, but there cannot be a negative number of objects either. Or perhaps s/he was trying to say that the imaginary numbers cannot be represented on the number line, which is irrelevant, since they can be represented on the complex plane, an equally valid, and more complete, numerical device. Finally, perhaps the author simply meant that the square root of a negative number does not exist, which is wrong. It does exist, in the guise of an imaginary number. While this may seem cyclical, simply because a number is "unusual" does not mean that it is abstract and non-existent.

Illustrations of this fact, and the incorrectness of the introduction, can be seen when solving differential equations which contain a bifurcation parameter, where the method of eigenvalues must be used. There, an complex, "imaginary" solution to one of several equations often contains eigenvalues and thus a corresponding eigenfunction. Therefore, the real-life existent solution to a real-life existent problem depends on an imaginary number. This exemplifies why complex numbers are just as valid as real numbers, and are not merely an "abstract concept," as the introduction erroneously points out. Or to be more precise, ALL of mathematics is an abstract concept, but there exists an isomorphism to the "real world"; an isomorphism that holds just as strongly in the domain of complex numbers as in the subset of complex numbers, the reals.

----

==The "real" world==
Re: this sentence from the intro:
<blockquote>
''They are called "real" because they actually exist as quantities in the real world, i.e. as measures, weights, temperatures. In contrast, the imaginary numbers are just an abstract concept, but do not exist concretely in the real world.''
</blockquote>
The bulk of that statement simply isn't correct, which is why I removed it earlier. Historically, it was thought that imaginary numbers didn't "really exist," but for the last 200 years or so it's been understood that they do; I believe Cauchy and Gauss were heavily involved in putting that question to bed. Furthermore, there are indeed physical applications of complex numbers. Anything with a magnitude and phase (think alternating current, any harmonic oscillator, communications signals, etc.) is conveniently represented by complex numbers, and they are absolutely essential in quantum mechanics.
:: I second this motion: this sentence should be erased. ''Real numbers'' are as real - or imaginary - as complex numbers. --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 15:41, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
'''EDIT:''' I've altered the sentence in question to reflect my comment.--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 15:30, 15 August 2008 (EDT)

==Again: Real vs. Imaginary==
The statement ''The term "real number" is in contrast to the imaginary numbers.'' (RSchlafly) is IMO a false dichotomy and shouldn't be put in the article.
I like the sentence: ''In classical physics, measurements of real world physical objects that can vary smoothly and continuously, like speed or temperature, are treated as real numbers. '' as it doesn't presuppose the existence of real numbers, but - analogously - you can state: ''In physics, measurements of real world physical objects that can vary smoothly and continuously - and exist from an angular compound and an absolute value - like current or voltage, are treated as complex numbers.'' --[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 16:30, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

: I don't understand your point. The terms ''real number'' and ''imaginary number'' are in common use. Are you denying that? Are you saying that they are not in contrast? What do you want? [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 18:35, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

:: Of course, I don't deny the terms. And I acknowledge that the ''terms'' - which can be understood in their historical context - are contrasting. But I don't like the idea to think of the ''real numbers'' as more '''real''' than the ''imaginary numbers'' - especially not because of an etymological reasoning: To quote Kronecker: ''"Die ganzen Zahlen hat der liebe Gott gemacht, alles andere ist Menschenwerk"''--[[User:DiEb|DiEb]] 16:47, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
:::Huh? Real numbers are those people concretely use. You can express any amount of dollars with real numbers. What would 3 + 2i dollars mean? Or the length of a segment or a curve: it is "real" and expressed in real numbers. Imaginary numbers are just constructions to help our calculations. They don't refer to "real" concepts people use. Thus, the historical meaning of real vs. imaginary is still valid for normal people - and homeschooled students who use Conservapedia to learn. I absolutely agree with RSchlafly. [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:53, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Prayer

2008-08-17T20:36:14Z

SilvioB: moved to proper section

[[Image:Prayer.jpg|right|300px|Praying Hands]]
In [[Christianity]] and many other religions, '''prayer''' is the process of directly connecting to [[God]], usually for the purpose of deliberate communication.

Through prayer our thoughts and hopes are heard and understood. Oftentimes, prayer will result in feeling God's presence or feeling like one is touched by God. This feeling of a connection is cited by many theists as proof of God's existence. It is through prayer that man can understand God's will in his life and ask God for the courage and strength to carry his message to the world. Prayer is common throughout the [[Bible]] in both the [[Old Testament]] and the [[New Testament|New]].

== How not to Pray ==

In the [[Sermon on the Mount]] [[Jesus]] warned against hypocrisy in prayer:<blockquote>"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."<ref>Matt 6:5</ref></blockquote>

At the time the religious authorities believed it was necessary to pray at specific times of the day, and would often make sure they were in large crowds of people when those times arose so that they could be seen and heard by all. Jesus did not approve of this.

Jesus also gave instructions on how not to pray:<blockquote>"And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."<ref>Matt 6:7-8</ref></blockquote>

Pagan prayers at the time believed that there was power in words and continous repetition and if you said a word often enough, then you could eventually own that object or claim that power for yourself. Jesus condemned this.

== A guideline of how one should Pray ==

In Christianity, Jesus gives a guideline of how one should pray to God with The Lord's Prayer:<blockquote>"Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed by thy name, thy kingdom come, they will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread, forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thing is the kingdom, the power, and the glory, forever, [[Amen]]."<ref>Matt 6:9-13 </ref><ref>[http://www.lifeofchrist.com/teachings/sermons/mount/lordsprayer.asp Instructions for praying] </ref></blockquote>

==Private and Public Prayer==

There are many examples in the Bible for praying in private and also for praying within a group, and sometimes even for praying in public.

<blockquote>''"But Jesus often withdrew to lonely places and prayed."'' <ref>{{Bible ref|Luke|5|16}}</ref></blockquote>

[[Image:Jesus praying.jpg|thumb|Jesus praying at Gethsemane]]

Jesus also instructed:<blockquote>"But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."<ref>Matt 6:6</ref></blockquote>

Even though he was with his [[Twelve Disciples|disciples]], Jesus also went off alone to pray on the [[Mount of Olives]] before he was about to be seized and [[crucified]].<ref>Luke 22:39-41</ref>

There are also many examples in the Bible of group prayer or praying in front of others:
* [[Solomon]] prayed publicly in dedicating the [[temple]] ({{Bible ref|1_Kings|8|22-61}}).
* [[Daniel (prophet)|Daniel]] prayed alone in his room, but by an open window where he could be seen ({{Bible ref|Daniel|6|10-11}}).
* Jesus sometimes prayed with his disciples ({{Bible ref|Luke|9|18}}).
* The Church prayed for Peter's miraculous release from prison ({{Bible ref|Acts|12|5}}).
* Jesus prayed in public, such as in {{Bible ref|Matthew|19|13-15}} when Jesus prayed for the children brought to him.

Other religions, and even different traditions within Christianity have developed their own practices related to prayer.<ref>"The Modes of Prayer," from the Nazerine Way of Essenic Study [http://www.thenazareneway.com/modes_of_prayer.htm]</ref>

==Prayer in other religions==

In Hinduism, Prayer is an integral part of the daily living. Chanting of [[mantras]] is the most important form of prayer in Hinduism. Some devotees meditate chanting different names of the Gods.

== References==
<references/>

== See also ==

*[[The Lord's Prayer]]
*[[Rosary]]
*[[Hail Mary]]
*[[Sinner's prayer]]

== External links ==

* [http://www.catholic.org/prayers/ Prayers] Catholic Online.
* Mates, Nathan, [http://www.visi.com/~nathan/xtian/publicprayer.html Praying in Public] 9th April 2000.
*[http://www.scborromeo.org/prayers/rosary.htm#mary Prayers]

[[Category: Religion]]
[[Category: Christianity]]

Rhenish republic

2008-08-16T16:39:10Z

SilvioB:

The Rhenish Republic was proclaimed at Aachen in October 1923 during the Occupation of the Ruhr by troops from Belgium and France between January 1923 and 1925. It comprised three territories, named North, South and Ruhr, with regional capitals respectively in Aachen, Koblenz and Essen.

[[Category:History]]

Metric system

2008-08-15T21:32:18Z

SilvioB: /* Volume */ Capacity

The [[metric system]] is a system of measurement developed during the [[French Revolution's]] anti-religious [[The Cult of Reason|Cult of Reason]]<ref>However, according to researcher Pat Norton, the system was described a century earlier by Englishman John Wilkins. [http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/15/1978802.htm Australian Broadcasting Corporation], 15 July 2007 (retrieved 15 July 2007.)</ref> and based on permanent natural standards rather than on royal decrees. [[Joseph Lagrange]] headed the Revolutionary weights-and-measures committee that developed it and set its initial definitions.

Traditional systems of measurement all used standard lengths of parts of the human body, or standard distances that a human might walk. The metric system, by contrast, initially used the [[earth]] itself as the ultimate standard.

In 1878 the [[United States]] signed the treaty called the ''Convention du Mètre.'' Since then, ''both'' the metric system and the [[United States customary units]] (miles, inches, pounds, etc.) have had legal status in the US. US Customary units are in fact defined by reference to metric units; that is, legally, an inch is ''defined'' to be exactly 25.4 millimeters.

In international scientific usage, the ''Convention du Mètre'' is superseded by the conventions of the [[International System of Units]]. However, many of the conventions of the metric system survive, including definitions of units that are not, strictly speaking, SI.

== Definitions ==
All measurement systems must start with one basic unit. For the metric system, this unit is the ''meter''. Every other named unit of the metric system had a definition that depended upon it.

=== Prefixes ===
All base units of the metric system have ''prefixes'' that multiply, or divide, the unit by various factors of ten (or alternatively, a thousand). They are:<ref>Wile, Dr. Jay L. ''Exploring Creation With Chemistry''. Apologia Educational Ministries, Inc. 1998</ref><ref>[http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/common.html Common metric prefixes]</ref>

{| class="wikitable"
|-
! The prefix:
! Abbreviated:
! Multiplies the unit by:
|-
| atto-
| a
| 10-18
|-
| femto-
| f
| 10-15
|-
| pico-
| p
| 10-12
|-
| nano-
| n
| 10-9
|-
| micro- ([[Greek]] ''small'')
| μ
| 10-6
|-
| milli- ([[Latin]] ''one thousand'')
| m
| 10-3
|-
| centi- (Latin ''one hundred'')
| c
| 10-2
|-
| deci- (Latin ''ten'')
| d
| 10-1
|-
| deka- (Greek ''ten'')
| da
| 101
|-
| hecto- (Greek ''one hundred'')
| H
| 102
|-
| kilo- (Greek ''one thousand'')
| k
| 103
|-
| mega- (Greek ''large'')
| M
| 106
|-
| giga- (Latin ''gigantic'')
| G
| 109
|-
| tera- (Greek ''wonder'')
| T
| 1012
|}

Other, related systems (see below) use the same prefixes to multiply their units.

=== Length ===
The base unit of length, and originally the unit from which all other definitions flowed, is the [[meter]]. The original definition was "one ten-millionth the distance from the equator to the north pole." Lagrange's surveyors computed this distance (probably using a variation on Eratosthenes' tropical-shadow experiment) and inscribed it on a metal bar that they kept at the weights-and-measures headquarters building in Sèvres, [[France]].

But this artifact, being made of metal, tended to expand and contract. Centuries later, when the scientific community realized what had happened, the task of re-standardizing all meter sticks to the equator-to-pole-times-10-7 definition was judged too onerous. Therefore the meter was redefined. At first it was defined as 1,650,763.73 wavelengths of the orange-red line in the excitation spectrum of [[krypton]]-86. Today it is defined as 1⁄299,792,458th of a light-second.

The meter in all its multiples replaces all other units of measurement, long and short. Long distance is measured in the meter multiplied by a thousand--the kilometer. Short distances are measured in centimeters--or millimeters, or micrometers, or however small one needs to measure them.

=== Volume ===
The base unit of volume is derived from the meter: it's the ''cubic meter'' [m3]. Traditionally, the ''liter''<ref>http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/chapter4/table6.html</ref> is used. 1 liter is defined as 10-3 m3 = 1 dm3. '''Capacity''', traditionally measured in liters, refers to the volume occupied by a liquid.

=== Mass ===
The base unit of mass is the ''gram''. Originally a gram was the mass of one cubic centimeter (see above), then called a ''milliliter'', of [[water]]. The Lagrange committee fashioned an artifact exactly one thousand times as heavy as this--the volume, in short, of one liter of water--and stored this permanently at Sèvres.

[[Joseph Lagrange|Lagrange]]'s committee also proposed a unit of mass called the ''grave'', to be equal to one thousand grams. But the [[French Revolution|Revolutionary]] government rejected this name as sounding too much like the [[German]] word ''graf'', translated as ''comte'' or [[count]] in French. Therefore, the artifact at Sèvres would be called a kilogram instead--and that artifact has that name to this day.

Mass never changes. But in addition to the prototype meter changing its length over time, scientists later realized that water has different densities at different [[temperature|temperatures]].

Today, the standard [[kilogram]] is kept at the International Bureau of Standards headquarters in Sèvres. It remains today the only generally accepted unit of measurement based on an artifact. But the definition of the liter has now changed, and is no longer dependent on the length of the meter. Today, one liter is defined as the volume of one kilogram of water at four degrees [[Celsius]]. One milliliter is simply one-thousandth of this, and one milliliter of water at this temperature weighs one gram. But to say that one liter is "one thousand cubic centimeters" is no longer correct, simply because the definition of length has changed, while that of mass has not.

== Relation to other systems of measurement ==
The [[International System of Units]] borrows some definitions and concepts from the metric system--most notably the meter and the kilogram--and adds other definitions of other quantities, most notably [[time]], [[force]], [[amount of substance]], plane [[angle]], solid angle, and [[luminous intensity]]. The liter ''is not'' the unit of volume in that system, however, but liter is accepted for use with the SI.

In addition to the International System (or in French, ''Systèm International'', or SI for short), scientists have invented other systems of measurement that include units of time, force, [[energy]], and electric charge. The most popular are the meter-kilogram-second and centimeter-gram-second systems.

Various governing authorities have established conversion ratios to assist people in converting between the metric system and other, more traditional units of measurement. The definitions of US Customary units in the United States is an example of this.

== References ==
<references/>

== See Also ==
* [http://creationwiki.org/Metric_system Metric system] by [[CreationWiki]]
* [http://www.essex1.com/people/speer/metric.html Metric system] by Essex1.com
* [http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/ The United States Metric Association]

[[Category:Science]]
[[Category:Units of Measurement]]

Age of Exploration

2008-08-13T22:42:46Z

SilvioB:

The '''Age of Discovery''' or Age of Exploration was a period from the early 15th century and continuing into the early 17th century, during which European ships traveled around the world to search for new trading routes and partners to feed burgeoning [[capitalism]] in Europe.They also were in search for trading goods like gold and silver. In the process, Europeans encountered peoples and mapped lands previously unknown to them. Among the most famous explorers of the period were [[Christopher Columbus]], [[Vasco da Gama]], [[Pedro Álvares Cabral]], [[John Cabot]], [[Yermak, Juan Ponce de León]], [[Bartholomew Diaz]], [[Ferdinand Magellan]], [[Willem Barents]], [[Abel Tasman]], [[Jacques Cartier]], [[Samuel de Champlain]], [[Willem Jansz]], [[Giovanni da Verrazzano]] and [[Amerigo Vespucci]].

The Age of Exploration was rooted in new technologies and ideas growing out of the Renaissance. These included advances in cartography, navigation, firepower and shipbuilding. Many people wanted to find a route to [[Asia]] through the west of [[Europe]]. The most important development was the invention of first the carrack and then [[caravel]] in Iberia. These vessels evolved from medieval European designs with a fruitful combination of Mediterranean and North Sea innovations and the addition of some Arabic elements. They were the first ships that could leave the relatively passive Mediterranean and sail safely on the open Atlantic.

The prelude to the Age of Exploration was a series of European expeditions crossing Eurasia by land in the late [[Middle Ages]]. While the [[Mongols]] had threatened [[Europe]] with pillage and destruction they also unified much of Eurasia creating trade routes and communication lines stretching from the Middle East to [[China]]. A series of Europeans took advantage of these to explore eastwards. These were almost all Italians as the trade between Europe and the Middle East was almost completely controlled by traders from the Italian city states. Their close links to the Levant created great curiosity and commercial interest in what lay further east. The Papacy also launched expeditions in hopes of finding converts, or the fabled Prester John.

The first of these travelers was Giovanni de Plano Carpini who journeyed to Mongolia and back from 1244–1247. The most famous voyage, however, was that of Marco Polo who traveled throughout the Orient from 1271 to 1295. His journey was written up as Travels and the work was read throughout Europe.

These voyages had little immediate effect, however; the Mongol Empire collapsed almost as quickly as it formed and soon the route to the east became far more difficult and dangerous. The Black Death of the fourteenth century also blocked travel and trade. The land route to the East was always to be too long and difficult for profitable trade and it was also controlled by Islamic empires that had long battled the Europeans. The rise of the aggressive and expansionist Ottoman Empire further limited the possibilities for Europeans.

In China, from 1405 to 1433 a large fleet of [[Zheng He]] traveled to the Western Ocean (the Chinese name for the Indian Ocean) seven times. But this attempt did not lead China to global expansion.

The “Age of Exploration” consisted of [[Christian]]s from [[Europe]] searching the rest of our globe to spread the faith and seek wealth, particularly between 1450 and 1650.

[[Category:Age of Exploration]]

User talk:Qprime

2008-08-07T20:49:42Z

SilvioB: New page: Hi, welcome to Conservapedia. You have interesting contributions. Are there many transgenders in Finland? Or does the high religiosity there keep Satan away? ~~~~

Hi, welcome to Conservapedia.

You have interesting contributions. Are there many transgenders in Finland? Or does the high religiosity there keep Satan away? [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:49, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Essay:The Invisible Hand of Marriage

2008-08-07T20:42:47Z

SilvioB: /* Google search on "invisible hand of marriage" */

==Insightful==
Finally, something with which I cannot argue... at least not yet. 
I was talking with someone about a few of the points made in this essay. Didn't think it related to marriage, just dedication to want to succeed. Oh well. ^.^ [[User:NathanG|Nate]][[User_talk:NathanG|Google's spiders need some work]] 11:45, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

==Gay couples==
Hold on. so now gay couples do not help each other? They do not futher each other's goals in life, nag each other, complement each other? of this list of 7 all but two are irrespective of gender. and the two that are based on gender could just as easily be based on TWO DIFFERENT HUMAN outlooks. I know my sister and I complement each other because we are so extremely different - she is into science and math, a liberal, married for 7 years, job as an engineer for a downtown Denver building. I am a nurse with the army, and still waiting for "mr. right". You can't make broad and *unproven* statements about how two people of any gender complement each other.--[[User:IcedTea|IcedTea]] 12:41, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

: I don't know which two you're referring to, and your personal story seems contrived. All the key elements identified apply only to male-female marriages. The [[invisible hand of marriage]] does not exist for same-sex marriages.

::Besides, people don't get married to their ''sisters''. I know I wouldn't! -[[User:MelanieKoontz|MelanieKoontz]] 13:36, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::: Love how trusting you are. You've never heard of two sisters being total opposites? Anyhow, only two of the "hands" directly say that the balance of man and woman is what drives this "hand". My question to you is why two men couldn't be just as productive as a man and a woman, just as focused on bettering their family, just as focused on finding economic goals that set the family in a better position and thereby drive each individual more. Each person in a couple, regardless of gender, helps the other out, encourages them, balances them, gently points out flaws and aids in fixing those flaws, etc. Why is this exclusive to a man and a woman in marriage?--[[User:IcedTea|IcedTea]] 13:55, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::::Men and women complement each other because they are designed that way by God. Two men or two women could only be a poor imitation of God's design. It would never be as good as the real thing. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 18:06, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::Indeed. One simply has to look at the history of homosexual relationships to see that. The pro-homosexual crowd likes to hold up the rare homosexual couple that has lasted decades, but they consistently fail to acknowledge that the average homosexual relationship lasts around 18 months. Additionally, very few "committed" homosexual relationships are monogamous. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:23, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::: "The history of homosexual relationships"? Pray tell, where has this history been recoded for the ages? Is it the source of your uncited claims? [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 22:58, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

::::::: There's plenty of research that goes back many decades. The leading psychiatric association used to study it and labeled it as something to be treated and changed, until leftist political pressure took over.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:32, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Wandering, conservapedia has an excellent article on [[homosexuality]] that talks about this. It might be a good place to start if you are actually interesting in an answer to your question. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 10:35, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

==Originality==
*I'm just going to note that it's possible this is not a Conservapedian discovery; others may just have a different name for it. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 19:05, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:: Suggestions welcome. I can't think of any. While we're at it, do you think Adam Smith's invisible hand wasn't original either?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:03, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:::I don't even know what that is; I know next to nothing about economics (although I plan to fulfill part of my social sciences requirement with a class in it). I wasn't saying that the idea is definitely not original, just that a lack of search results for your term doesn't prove that it is. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 23:03, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:::: It's interesting you don't know what the "invisible hand" is, and I appreciate your candor. I bet the familiarity with that term and concept is far higher among conservatives than liberals. Indeed, it has been said that a good economics course is more likely to convert liberals to conservatives than any other teaching. That said, it's almost impossible to present or discuss a concept for an invisible hand of marriage without using the term "invisible hand." The lack of Google cites to it was meant to be illustrative rather than a proof of originality.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:30, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

== Google search on "invisible hand of marriage" ==

I tried this, and it actually looks as if it is true that it is an original Conservapedia term. I do get one hit now, and oddly it's not for Conservapedia, but for a website that seems to be blocked by the Conservapedia spam filter.
That website appears to be offline at the moment, but judging from the summary on google, it looks as if it is mocking Conservapedia (explaining the censorship of the term here). Are there moves afoot to get other blogs and websites to publish comments and articles or to get Conservapedia itself on the search engine results? [[User:Davidklein|Davidklein]] 09:51, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

: I assume the Google search engine will pick up our entry in a few days. We're not planning any special effort for it. It will be interesting to see how long that process takes.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:54, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

:::That site seems to link directly to this article anyway, so it doesn't matter very much. [[User:Etc|Etc]] 12:34, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

:: It might be an interesting project to track the propagation of a concept like this, to see how and how fast it spreads. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 10:20, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
:::I would not open a website blocked by a spam filter. Those often are full of viruses and spyware. At least use an up-to-date antivirus program! Has someone tried opening that website? [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:13, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

::::No, stay away from that site. I'm sure it's blocked for good reasons. Virus programs only help so far, you still have to be careful. [[User:Etc|Etc]] 16:40, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::I thought so. Strange though that they would link to us. But these modern spammers, they are so cunning, who knows what they have in mind! [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:42, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

==Respect for authorship==

Whether one agrees with this or not, I have to object to people applying direct edits to this piece because it's an ''essay'', not an ''encyclopedia article''. This is the original work of Andrew Schlafly, and is his alone to edit. (For the record, I do not agree with the benefits of a relationship being conditional on the genders involved) --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:19, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

: No, Dinsdale, that's not correct. I welcome edits. The very essence of a wiki is group editing, and that applies to essays also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:26, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

::My apologies, then, and thanks for clarifying. -[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Essay:The Invisible Hand of Marriage

2008-08-07T20:13:04Z

SilvioB: /* Google search on "invisible hand of marriage" */

==Insightful==
Finally, something with which I cannot argue... at least not yet. 
I was talking with someone about a few of the points made in this essay. Didn't think it related to marriage, just dedication to want to succeed. Oh well. ^.^ [[User:NathanG|Nate]][[User_talk:NathanG|Google's spiders need some work]] 11:45, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

==Gay couples==
Hold on. so now gay couples do not help each other? They do not futher each other's goals in life, nag each other, complement each other? of this list of 7 all but two are irrespective of gender. and the two that are based on gender could just as easily be based on TWO DIFFERENT HUMAN outlooks. I know my sister and I complement each other because we are so extremely different - she is into science and math, a liberal, married for 7 years, job as an engineer for a downtown Denver building. I am a nurse with the army, and still waiting for "mr. right". You can't make broad and *unproven* statements about how two people of any gender complement each other.--[[User:IcedTea|IcedTea]] 12:41, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

: I don't know which two you're referring to, and your personal story seems contrived. All the key elements identified apply only to male-female marriages. The [[invisible hand of marriage]] does not exist for same-sex marriages.

::Besides, people don't get married to their ''sisters''. I know I wouldn't! -[[User:MelanieKoontz|MelanieKoontz]] 13:36, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::: Love how trusting you are. You've never heard of two sisters being total opposites? Anyhow, only two of the "hands" directly say that the balance of man and woman is what drives this "hand". My question to you is why two men couldn't be just as productive as a man and a woman, just as focused on bettering their family, just as focused on finding economic goals that set the family in a better position and thereby drive each individual more. Each person in a couple, regardless of gender, helps the other out, encourages them, balances them, gently points out flaws and aids in fixing those flaws, etc. Why is this exclusive to a man and a woman in marriage?--[[User:IcedTea|IcedTea]] 13:55, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
::::Men and women complement each other because they are designed that way by God. Two men or two women could only be a poor imitation of God's design. It would never be as good as the real thing. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 18:06, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::Indeed. One simply has to look at the history of homosexual relationships to see that. The pro-homosexual crowd likes to hold up the rare homosexual couple that has lasted decades, but they consistently fail to acknowledge that the average homosexual relationship lasts around 18 months. Additionally, very few "committed" homosexual relationships are monogamous. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 18:23, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::: "The history of homosexual relationships"? Pray tell, where has this history been recoded for the ages? Is it the source of your uncited claims? [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 22:58, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

::::::: There's plenty of research that goes back many decades. The leading psychiatric association used to study it and labeled it as something to be treated and changed, until leftist political pressure took over.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:32, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Wandering, conservapedia has an excellent article on [[homosexuality]] that talks about this. It might be a good place to start if you are actually interesting in an answer to your question. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 10:35, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

==Originality==
*I'm just going to note that it's possible this is not a Conservapedian discovery; others may just have a different name for it. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 19:05, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:: Suggestions welcome. I can't think of any. While we're at it, do you think Adam Smith's invisible hand wasn't original either?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:03, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:::I don't even know what that is; I know next to nothing about economics (although I plan to fulfill part of my social sciences requirement with a class in it). I wasn't saying that the idea is definitely not original, just that a lack of search results for your term doesn't prove that it is. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 23:03, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

:::: It's interesting you don't know what the "invisible hand" is, and I appreciate your candor. I bet the familiarity with that term and concept is far higher among conservatives than liberals. Indeed, it has been said that a good economics course is more likely to convert liberals to conservatives than any other teaching. That said, it's almost impossible to present or discuss a concept for an invisible hand of marriage without using the term "invisible hand." The lack of Google cites to it was meant to be illustrative rather than a proof of originality.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:30, 6 August 2008 (EDT)

== Google search on "invisible hand of marriage" ==

I tried this, and it actually looks as if it is true that it is an original Conservapedia term. I do get one hit now, and oddly it's not for Conservapedia, but for a website that seems to be blocked by the Conservapedia spam filter.
That website appears to be offline at the moment, but judging from the summary on google, it looks as if it is mocking Conservapedia (explaining the censorship of the term here). Are there moves afoot to get other blogs and websites to publish comments and articles or to get Conservapedia itself on the search engine results? [[User:Davidklein|Davidklein]] 09:51, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

: I assume the Google search engine will pick up our entry in a few days. We're not planning any special effort for it. It will be interesting to see how long that process takes.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:54, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

:::That site seems to link directly to this article anyway, so it doesn't matter very much. [[User:Etc|Etc]] 12:34, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

:: It might be an interesting project to track the propagation of a concept like this, to see how and how fast it spreads. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 10:20, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
:::I would not open a website blocked by a spam filter. Those often are full of viruses and spyware. At least use an up-to-date antivirus program! Has someone tried opening that website? [[User:SilvioB|SilvioB]] 16:13, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

==Respect for authorship==

Whether one agrees with this or not, I have to object to people applying direct edits to this piece because it's an ''essay'', not an ''encyclopedia article''. This is the original work of Andrew Schlafly, and is his alone to edit. (For the record, I do not agree with the benefits of a relationship being conditional on the genders involved) --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:19, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

: No, Dinsdale, that's not correct. I welcome edits. The very essence of a wiki is group editing, and that applies to essays also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:26, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

::My apologies, then, and thanks for clarifying. -[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Mechanical engineering

2008-08-06T13:33:33Z

SilvioB: corrected generalization

Mechanical engineering is the branch of engineering traditionally associated with the design of mechanical systems, covering diverse fields such as materials science, manufacturing systems, hydraulic systems, and automotive systems. In the US, mechanical engineers have generally completed a four year university program, and many have a master's or doctoral degree, particularly those involved in research. A typical undergraduate course of study would include instruction in:
*classical mechanics,
*thermodynamics,
*materials,
*controls systems,
*numerical methods and computer programming,
*fluid mechanics,
*heat transfer,
*and design theory.
Because many systems that were once purely mechanical now have a computerized control component (e.g. anti-lock brake systems) mechanical engineering education overlaps some with other fields such as electrical engineering.

==External links==
[http://www.asme.org American Society of Mechanical Engineers] - The professional society for mechanical engineering.

National Hockey League

2008-08-05T15:41:49Z

SilvioB: improved

The '''National Hockey League''' ('''NHL''') is a professional [[hockey]] with teams across [[Canada]] and the [[United States]]. Comprised of 30 teams, divided into 2 Conferences and six Divisions each of 5 teams, the NHL teams play for the Championship: the [[Stanley Cup]]. The teams play 82 game seasons, and the top 16 teams (3 top teams from each division plus the next 5 teams from the Conference) from the Regular Season advance to a playoff phase where a best of seven series are played between the seeded teams.
 Canadian and American players make up the majority of the players in the NHL, however many skilled players have been brought into the league from [[Europe]], making it a premier place for playing hockey. The large number of Canadian players and the large support for the sport of hockey make the NHL a popular draw in Canada, with playoff hockey actually drawing more viewers in Canada than in the United States.

== List of Teams ==

=== Eastern Conference ===

===== Atlantic Division =====
*[[New Jersey Devils]]
*[[New York Islanders]]
*[[New York Rangers]]
*[[Philadelphia Flyers]]
*[[Pittsburgh Penguins]]

===== Northeast Division =====
*[[Boston Bruins]]
*[[Buffalo Sabres]]
*[[Montreal Canadiens]]
*[[Ottawa Senators]]
*[[Maple_Leafs|Toronto Maple Leafs]]

===== Southeast Division =====
*[[Atlanta Thrashers]]
*[[Carolina Hurricanes]]
*[[Florida Panthers]]
*[[Tampa Bay Lightning]]
*[[Washington Capitals]]

=== Western Conference ===

===== Central Division =====
*[[Chicago Blackhawks]]
*[[Columbus Blue Jackets]]
*[[Detroit Red Wings]]
*[[Nashville Predators]]
*[[St. Louis Blues]]

===== Northwest Division =====
*[[Calgary Flames]]
*[[Colorado Avalanche]]
*[[Edmonton Oilers]]
*[[Minnesota Wild]]
*[[Vancouver Canucks]]

===== Pacific Division =====
*[[Anaheim Ducks]]
*[[Dallas Stars]]
*[[Los Angeles Kings]]
*[[Phoenix Coyotes]]
*[[San Jose Sharks]]

[[Category:Sports leagues]]
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