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Talk:Joseph Stalin

2008-05-22T15:53:17Z

SimonW:

"forced women to work in factories just like men" - Is the intent of this to say that women should not be working in factories and/or holding jobs that men hold? I would think that idea is somewhat ''passe'' now. The fragment should be removed from the article.--[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 23:22, 7 March 2007 (EST)

: The statement is factual and I see no reason to delete. The reader can decide for himself whether forcing women to work in factories just like men is a good thing. --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:24, 7 March 2007 (EST)

:: I would think that anyone would agree that coercing anyone to work isn't a good thing. But the "just like men" part is opinion, not fact. That is what should be removed.--[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 23:48, 7 March 2007 (EST)

==Stalin's death==
''Following a stroke on 1 March 1953, Stalin died ''

Stalin may have actually been assassinated by other members of the Politburo who feared another 1938 style-purge growing out of the Doctor's Plot. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:49, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

==Odd conclusion==
The article says,

:''Most of this, however, was pure propaganda ... Soviet growth was impressive. Between 1929 and 1937, 8,000 factories were constructed, average GDP growth was around 10%''

Which of those two statements is true? Was it "pure propaganda," or a successful campaign of industrial development? -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 12:25, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

== Purges ==

I removed someone's addition of the subplot of Stalin's Okhranka file because it was tangential to the overview of the purges and too specific for this article. It should form its own entry if valid.

:I would suggest, if you think it is important, not to remove accurate additional information added by RobS, a sysop, and instead perhaps give it a sub-head, instead of just dumping enlightening information, that goes to their state of mind. Do you have some suggestions for this, other than making an entirely new article on this deal? --[[User:TK|₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 22:45, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

==Motives==

Xgood, please work with me to develop your ideas on Stalin's motives. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 16:31, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

==Tsaritsyn spelled wrong in the introduction==
It currently says ''Tsaritsen'', while correctly the town is spelled ''Tsaritsyn'' or ''Tsaritsin'' (''Царицин'' in Russian).[[User:SimonW|SimonW]] 11:53, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Vladimir Lenin

2008-05-22T15:41:22Z

SimonW:

[[Image:Khvhkgfiy.jpg|right|thumb|Lenin]]
'''Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Lenin''' (Russian: Владимир Ильич Улянов, Ленин) (1870-1924) was the 1st Premier of the [[USSR]].

==Revolution==

In November 1917, Lenin, the leader of the [[Communist Party]], led a [[Proletarian Revolution]] to overthrew the [[Provisional Government]] that had replaced the [[Russian Empire]].

Lenin became a [[Marxist]], as previously by [[Karl Marx]], in 1889. He obtained a law degree shortly afterwards, and by 1895 was arrested and sent to [[Siberia]] as punishment for [[subversion (political)|subversion]]. Once he served his time he left for Western [[Europe]], where he developed his plans further and became a leader of the [[Bolsheviks]]. He was sent to Russia after the [[tsar]] abdicated in March 1917, and led the Bolsheviks to power in the "[[October Revolution]]" (November in the Gregorian calendar) by overthrowing the government. (In the night of July 16-17, 1918, a squad of Bolshevik secret police murdered Russia's last emperor, Tsar Nicholas II, along with his wife, Tsaritsa Alexandra, their 14-year-old son, Tsarevich Alexis, and their four daughters.)<ref>[http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism]</ref> He then ruled the [[Soviet Union]] under Marxism-Leninism, until 1922, when he retired due to ill health. Lenin's government was notable for placing a woman, Alexandra Kollontai, as Commissar of Social Welfare at a time when positions of authority routinely went to men. She resigned early the following year over a difference of opinion where she was in the minority, but continued to be active in Soviet politics.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/into.htm]</ref>. Lenin's government also denounced anti-Semitism by the old Russian government in a speech in March 1919 <ref>[http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/718/1/78]</ref>.

Lenin died in 1924 following a series of progressively more serious strokes.

Lenin used [[concentration camp]]s and "reeducation" to impose the atheistic ideology upon the population.

{{Cquote|A wide campaign of "education" was undertaken to show the people why "workers' rule" meant, in practice, [[Nomenklatura|managers]]' rule. Where necessary, the education by the word was supplemented with education by [[firing squad]] or [[concentration camp]] or forced labour battalion. <ref>James Burnham, ''The Managerial Revolution'', Indiana University Press, Bloomingham 1966.</ref> }}

The régime of [[Josef Stalin]], the next [[Premier]] of the USSR, continued the oppression of the masses initiated by Lenin.

== See also ==

*[[Karl Marx]]
*[[Baldomero Ortoneda]]

==References==
<references/>

{{DEFAULTSORT:Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich}}

[[Category:Russian People]]
[[Category:Communists]]
[[Category:Mass Murderers]]

Vladimir Lenin

2008-05-22T15:40:26Z

SimonW: Indeed his grandfather was Jewish. If we are to mention that, however, we'd have, too, to mention the nationalities of his other relatives none of whom was purely Russian.

[[Image:Khvhkgfiy.jpg|right|thumb|Lenin]]
'''Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Lenin''' (Russian: Владимир Ильич Улянов, Ленин) (1870-1924) was the 1st Premier of the [[USSR]].

==Revolution==

In November 1917, Lenin, the leader of the [[Communist Party]], led a [[Proletarian Revolution]] to overthrew the [[Provisional Government]] that had replaced the [[Russian Empire]].

Lenin became a [[Marxist]], as previously by [[Karl Marx]]), 1889. He obtained a law degree shortly afterwards, and by 1895 was arrested and sent to [[Siberia]] as punishment for [[subversion (political)|subversion]]. Once he served his time he left for Western [[Europe]], where he developed his plans further and became a leader of the [[Bolsheviks]]. He was sent to Russia after the [[tsar]] abdicated in March 1917, and led the Bolsheviks to power in the "[[October Revolution]]" (November in the Gregorian calendar) by overthrowing the government. (In the night of July 16-17, 1918, a squad of Bolshevik secret police murdered Russia's last emperor, Tsar Nicholas II, along with his wife, Tsaritsa Alexandra, their 14-year-old son, Tsarevich Alexis, and their four daughters.)<ref>[http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism]</ref> He then ruled the [[Soviet Union]] under Marxism-Leninism, until 1922, when he retired due to ill health. Lenin's government was notable for placing a woman, Alexandra Kollontai, as Commissar of Social Welfare at a time when positions of authority routinely went to men. She resigned early the following year over a difference of opinion where she was in the minority, but continued to be active in Soviet politics.<ref>[http://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/into.htm]</ref>. Lenin's government also denounced anti-Semitism by the old Russian government in a speech in March 1919 <ref>[http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/718/1/78]</ref>.

Lenin died in 1924 following a series of progressively more serious strokes.

Lenin used [[concentration camp]]s and "reeducation" to impose the atheistic ideology upon the population.

{{Cquote|A wide campaign of "education" was undertaken to show the people why "workers' rule" meant, in practice, [[Nomenklatura|managers]]' rule. Where necessary, the education by the word was supplemented with education by [[firing squad]] or [[concentration camp]] or forced labour battalion. <ref>James Burnham, ''The Managerial Revolution'', Indiana University Press, Bloomingham 1966.</ref> }}

The régime of [[Josef Stalin]], the next [[Premier]] of the USSR, continued the oppression of the masses initiated by Lenin.

== See also ==

*[[Karl Marx]]
*[[Baldomero Ortoneda]]

==References==
<references/>

{{DEFAULTSORT:Lenin, Vladimir Ilyich}}

[[Category:Russian People]]
[[Category:Communists]]
[[Category:Mass Murderers]]