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		<title>Bear</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Polar bear.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Polar bear]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Giant panda.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Giant panda]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A '''bear''' is a large furry mammal.  All bears are [[omnivores]], even those which eat a mostly meat diet (polar bears) or a mostly plant diet (pandas).  There are eight generally recognized [[extant]] species of bears:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Polar Bear]] - Lives in the Arctic maritime region and hunts (primarily) seals.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brown Bear]] - The species to which the Grizzly bear belongs. More subspecies include the Kodiak bear and the European brown bear.  Lives in temperate forested regions of North America, Europe, and Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[American Black Bear]] - Smaller than the grizzly, and lives in North America.  Subspecies include the Kermode bear which lives in British Columbia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asiatic Black Bear]] - A bear species that lives in Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giant Panda]] - Lives in China and eats a plant diet of bamboo.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Spectacled Bear]] - A small bear that lives in South America.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sloth Bear]] - Lives in South Asia and eats termites.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sun Bear]] - A small bear that lives in Southeast Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bears are frequent mascots for schools and sports teams, including the Chicago Bears (football), the Chicago Cubs (baseball), the UCLA Bruins, and the Brown University Bears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Two she-bears make an appearance in II Kings 2:23-24, verses concerning the prophet Elisha frequently cited by atheists and nonbelievers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. &lt;br /&gt;
And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Though the two verses seem on the surface incompatible with modern Christian values, it should be noted that &amp;quot;little children&amp;quot; is most a mistranslation, and should probably be interpreted as &amp;quot;youths&amp;quot;, possibly a gang of juvenile delinquents.  Also, God cannot and should not allow his prophets to be mocked without reproach. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://mfile.akamai.com/27176/wmv/nationalpark.download.akamai.com/27176/prod/yell/photosmultimedia/video/insideyell/wmvs/256/0042b_grizzly_or_blackbear_256.asx Yellowstone's Bears], Videos © 2008 Yellowstone Association&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Bears| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dangerous Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Polar bear.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Polar bear]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Giant panda.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Giant panda]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A '''bear''' is a large furry mammal.  All bears are [[omnivores]], even those which eat a mostly meat diet (polar bears) or a mostly plant diet (pandas).  There are eight generally recognized [[extant]] species of bears:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Polar Bear]] - Lives in the Arctic maritime region and hunts (primarily) seals.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brown Bear]] - The species to which the Grizzly bear belongs.  Subspecies include the Kodiak bear and the European brown bear.  Lives in temperate forested regions of North America, Europe, and Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[American Black Bear]] - Smaller than the grizzly, and lives in North America.  Subspecies include the Kermode bear which lives in British Columbia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Asiatic Black Bear]] - A bear species that lives in Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giant Panda]] - Lives in China and eats a plant diet of bamboo.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Spectacled Bear]] - A small bear that lives in South America.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sloth Bear]] - Lives in South Asia and eats termites.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sun Bear]] - A small bear that lives in Southeast Asia.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bears are frequent mascots for schools and sports teams, including the Chicago Bears (football), the Chicago Cubs (baseball), the UCLA Bruins, and the Brown University Bears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two she-bears make an appearance in II Kings 2:23-24, verses concerning the prophet Elisha frequently cited by atheists and nonbelievers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. &lt;br /&gt;
And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Though the two verses seem on the surface incompatible with modern Christian values, it should be noted that &amp;quot;little children&amp;quot; is most a mistranslation, and should probably be interpreted as &amp;quot;youths&amp;quot;, possibly a gang of juvenile delinquents.  Also, God cannot and should not allow his prophets to be mocked without reproach. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://mfile.akamai.com/27176/wmv/nationalpark.download.akamai.com/27176/prod/yell/photosmultimedia/video/insideyell/wmvs/256/0042b_grizzly_or_blackbear_256.asx Yellowstone's Bears], Videos © 2008 Yellowstone Association&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Bears| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dangerous Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Politically_correct&amp;diff=556819</id>
		<title>Politically correct</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]]; one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of the [[First Amendment|freedom of speech]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences among gender, religion, belief system, sexual orientation and nationality.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950's-60's usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged. However, his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the more 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of female-dominated occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of male-dominated occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, mechanics, etc.) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
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Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
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The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
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Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Racial censorship]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Politics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Politically correct</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;St0dad: /* Examples */  well nowadays they're not &amp;quot;male-only&amp;quot; so I think &amp;quot;male-dominated&amp;quot; makes more sense.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]]; one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of the [[First Amendment|freedom of speech]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences among gender, religion, belief system, sexual orientation and nationality.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950s-60s usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged. However, his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the more 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of female-dominated occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of male-dominated occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, mechanics, etc.) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Racial censorship]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]]; one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of the [[First Amendment|freedom of speech]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences among gender, religion, belief system, sexual orientation and nationality.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950s-60s usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Racial censorship]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Politics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]]; one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of the [[First Amendment|freedom of speech]]. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences between gender, religion, belief system, sexual orientation and nationality.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950s-60s usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Racial censorship]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Politics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
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The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]]; one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of freedom of speech. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, sexual inclination and nationalities.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
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An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950s-60s usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
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The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
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Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
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Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
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The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
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Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Racial censorship]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Abraham Lincoln''' was the 16th [[President of the United States of America]] serving from 1861 to 1865.  He led his country through one of the darker chapters in American history; the [[American Civil War | Civil War]]. He was [[homeschooled]] and almost completely self-taught, which likely gave him independent thinking, reliance on logic, and a desire to continue to learn as an adult.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Lincoln successfully proved all of Euclid's theorems while serving in Congress.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is considered the most eloquent writer of any American president in history thus far. He is also one of the very few whose [[faith]] developed and grew while holding high public office.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life==&lt;br /&gt;
''“I was born Feb. 12, 1809, in Hardin County, Kentucky. My parents were both born in Virginia, of undistinguished families-- second families, perhaps I should say. My mother, who died in my tenth year, was of a family of the name of Hanks, some of whom now reside in Adams, and others in Macon Counties, Illinois.”'' [http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/autobiog.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Abraham Lincoln was born in a backwoods cabin some three miles south of Hodgenville, Kentucky.  His father was Thomas Lincoln; a descendant of a weaver’s apprentice who had migrated to Massachusetts from England some years after the [[Mayflower]] landed. Thomas was a sturdy man, committed to pioneering in the new lands of Kentucky and Indiana despite his lack of prosperity. He married Nancy Hanks on June 12, 1806, and together they had three children: Sarah, Abraham, and Thomas, who did not survive infancy. Young Abraham’s earliest memories of his days in Kentucky involved helping his father plant some seeds of corn and sunflower, and a flood that washed them away.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Young abraham lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The oldest-known photograph of Lincoln, about 1847.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In December 1816 Thomas had to pack up his family and leave for southwestern Indiana to avoid a lawsuit which had threatened him with a takeover of his property. There he built what was a “half-faced” camp; a crude log structure with one side open to the elements, and there the family stayed as squatters on public land until Thomas had finished a permanent cabin, and later would buy the land outright on which it stood. Helping Thomas clear the land and plowing the fields was Abraham, who would also take care of the crops but developed a dislike for tasks which put additional food on the table, hunting and fishing. The poverty, Lincoln recalled, was “pretty pinching” at times, and by the age of nine he was a tall, lanky boy dressed rather ragged and unkempt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then the fall of 1818 brought the hardest blow: Nancy had died of the “milk sickness”, leaving Abraham without the mother whom he deeply loved. Some time later, Thomas had taken the buckboard and the mule, and left Abraham and Sarah on their own for two weeks; when he returned, he was with a new wife, Sarah Bush Johnson; she immediately made up for the absence of Nancy by replacing Abraham’s corn husk mattress with one of down, winning him over the first day.  The new step-mother treated both children with an even hand (she herself was a widow with three children, whom she had brought), but she became very fond of Abraham, and he in turn was fond of her, referring to her as his “angel mother” for the rest of his life.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
Both of Abraham’s parents were nearly completely illiterate, and he himself had not much more than one year of formal education.  When he did go to school, it was by “littles” – a little here, a little there – and he would call it “blab” school, which meant that they had to recite their lessons constantly due to lack of paper, pencils, and chalk.  “Of course, when I came of age I did not know much. Still, somehow, I could read, write, and cipher to the rule of three; but that was all.”  &lt;br /&gt;
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His step-mother encouraged his reading as much as possible, and although Abraham did not have access to a large number of books, he would read as much of what was there, and read voraciously. He read John Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress, ''Aesop’s Fables'', Daniel DeFoe’s ''Robinson Crusoe'', Parson Weems's ''Life and Memorable Actions of George Washington'', Edward Gibbon’s ''Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'', and undoubtedly he read many times the only book his family actually owned, the Bible. He would walk for miles to borrow a book he heard about, and after his chores he would collapse into a heap in front of the fire and read for hours. He would say years later that his best friend was the man who let him borrow a book he hadn’t read yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Rail-Splitter===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Railsplitter.jpg|thumb|200px|right|An artist's impression of a young Abe Lincoln, the ''Rail-Splitter''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Lincolns moved to Illinois in March, 1830, with Abraham driving the team of oxen himself, a young man of 21, rawboned and lanky at six feet four inches tall.  But the years working on the Indiana farm have also made him physically powerful, and on his arrival in Illinois he was soon to demonstrate the skill with which he could wield an axe, putting it to good use by clearing the trees and laying the fence on his father’s new farm; the speed with which he could take tree trunks and split them into the rails needed for the fencing just by using his axe earned him the nickname “rail-splitter.” He could make an axe flash and bite deep; one neighbor saying “He could sink an axe deeper into wood than any man I ever saw.” After a good deal of chopping, he could take the axe by its handle and hold it straight out away from his body, without a single quiver. (Sandburg, pg. 14) Good-natured as well, he would make friends easily, despite his awkward-looking stride and backwoods language.&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon, he signed on as a deckhand on a flatboat, and made a voyage down the Mississippi River to New Orleans. When he returned he settled in a small town on the Sangamon River called New Salem, working as a store keeper, surveyor, or a postmaster, the later of which allowed him to be the first to read the arriving newspapers. Then talk went about town of Lincoln’s utter honesty, how he would walk six miles to return a few cents to a customer he had accidentally overcharged, or the woman that had bought some tea, and having used the wrong weight for the purchase, Lincoln made the correction and walked the many miles to her house to ensure she got the right order (Sandburg, pp 24-25).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1832 he enlisted in the Black Hawk War, and was elected captain of his company, but the only fighting he admitted seeing action in was the “many bloody struggles with the mosquitoes.”  After he was mustered out of his company, he aspired for the state legislature, losing the contest the first time he ran, then getting elected and re-elected several times afterward.  He had briefly thought about practicing the trade of blacksmithing, but his craving of reading led him to law books, which caused some serious studying. Lincoln passed the bar in 1836, and began a new career practicing law.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Springfield==&lt;br /&gt;
The following year he moved to the new state capital of Illinois, Springfield, becoming law partners with John T. Stuart, Stephan T. Logan, and finally William H. Herndon in 1844, who, although junior in age to Lincoln by a decade, made a good, balanced partner. Few records exist of their law business, and when they got paid for their services they split the cash, no matter who was paid. Lincoln would earn $1,200 - $1,500 annually within just a few years; by comparison circuit judges earned $750. But to earn it he kept busy and worked hard; often he would climb into his buggy and travel the circuit of neighboring counties and practice before the courts there.  And often the cases he would be involved in were petty&lt;br /&gt;
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Years before he had tried, and failed, to push legislation through the state assembly to have the Sangamon River made navigable to New Salem; by 1850 the railroads were bringing business and prosperity to Illinois, and Lincoln, by virtue of the ease the railroad made in traveling to his courts, profited more. He had served as a lobbyist for the Illinois Central Railroad, enabling it to get a state charter; he would defend the company against McClean County’s unsuccessful efforts to tax it. He handles cases for other railroads, banks, manufacturing, and other large companies in the state; he handled some patent suits and a few criminal trials.  And he also saved the first bridge to cross the Mississippi River from demolition, when river interests demanded the bridge be taken down.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The moonlight murder===&lt;br /&gt;
In Lincoln’s New Salem days he was introduced to the Clary’s Grove Boys, a group of rowdy men from that nearby town would come into New Salem to bully some of the male townsfolk.  The leader of the group was Jack Armstrong, who’s challenge to wrestle the Salem men usually resulted in Armstrong throwing the unfortunate man to the ground in a very short time; when he saw Lincoln, Armstrong would dismiss the lanky young man as a pushover.  It was when they fought that Armstrong discovered just how hard it was to throw Lincoln – in fact, it was impossible.  The battle ended in a draw, and the good-natured Lincoln made a new friend.  Armstrong would later be one of the men to elect Lincoln to lead the company of volunteers in the Black Hawk War.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1856, Jack Armstrong’s son, William (or “Duff”), was charged with murder.  A witness had claimed that he had seen Duff and another kill a New Salem man late at night by the light of full moon.  Lincoln pulled out an almanac and proved that the witness could not have seen anything at all, as the moon was at its quarter and had actually set over an hour before.  Duff was acquitted, and Lincoln won the case.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrew Jackson, the hero of New Orleans in the War of 1812 and a Democrat from Tennessee, was in the White House when Lincoln first entered politics.  He shared with Jackson the sympathies for the common man, but differed in the role of government as related to it; Jackson stated the government should be separated from the economic enterprise, while Lincoln was of the view that “the legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but cannot do at all, or cannot do so well, for themselves, in their separate and individual capacities.”   Lincoln most associated himself with the Whig Party, as among their members Henry Clay and Daniel Webster both advocated a government should be encouraging business, and the development of the country to that end.  It was an easy choice for Lincoln: he saw Illinois as needing such aid to improve the development of its own economy.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Illinois State Legislature Lincoln found that politics could be detrimental and harsh, as well as rewarding.  An example of the former occurred in 1836, just as he gave a speech in support of his re-election.  Democrat John Forquer, also seeking election, used his response and acid tounge to denounce him. &amp;quot;This young man needs to be taken down&amp;quot; he said, pointing to Lincoln, &amp;quot;and I'm afraid the task devolves upon me.&amp;quot; The success of Forquer's speech convinced some of Lincoln's own allies that his career was over.&lt;br /&gt;
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But when Lincoln rose to make his rebuttal, he thought of Forquer, and what he had done recently in conniving with President Jackson to change parties; in reward for doing so he was made Government Land Register with a $3,000 annual salary. Forquer was then able to construct a fine new house in Springfield, complete with a curiosity residents had heard about from science but had never seen before: a lightning rod.  Before he entered the state house building that day, Lincoln spent a few minutes at Forquer's house staring at the thing, and having heard Forquer's speech later on, he thought of what he saw.  Lincoln's reply was blistering, and sealed Forquer's fate. &lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;Among other things he said, the gentleman commenced his speech by saying that 'this young man,' alluding to me, 'must be taken down.' I am not so young in years as I am in the tricks and the trades of a politician, but, live long or die young, I would rather die now than, like the gentleman, change my politics, and with the change receive an office worth $3,000 a year, and then feel obliged to erect a lightning-rod over my house to protect a guilty conscience from an offended God!&amp;quot;'' (Sandburg, pg.49)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln also proposed state funding to construct a network of roads, railroads, and canals.  Both Whigs and Democrats would join in for the passing of this omnibus bill, but a business depression was created by the panic of 1837, and as a result most of the provisions in the bill were abandoned.  1837 was also marked by the murder of Elijah Lovejoy, a newspaperman from Alton who was killed by a mob due to his anti-slavery views.  The legislature introduced resolutions defending Southern slavery while condemning abolitionist societies, as per the U.S. Constitution.  In protest of the resolutions Lincoln, with a fellow legislator, drew up a declaration [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al02.htm] which stated that slavery was “founded on both injustice and bad policy,” while also declaring that “the promulgation of abolition doctrines tends rather to increase than to abate its evils.”&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lawyer Lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Lincoln in the late 1850's, about to debate his rival Stephen A. Douglas.]]&lt;br /&gt;
He only served one term in the United States Congress, 1847 to 1849, during which time he did little on legislative matters.  He did introduce a bill calling for a gradual emancipation of slaves within the District of Columbia, but since it hinged on the approval of the white citizens there, it only caused mild anger from abolitionists as well as slave holders, and was quietly dropped.  His one main issue was over the Mexican War, in which he condemned the American entry into it on false pretenses, particularly blaming current president James K. Polk. He worked toward the nomination of Zachary Taylor for the presidency, and when Taylor had won, Lincoln expected to be rewarded with the job of land commissioner, but failed.  He was voted out of office by his constituents, as they felt he was too critical of the war.  Disillusioned, he left politics and reentered his law practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Return to politics==&lt;br /&gt;
He stayed out for five years, winning several cases before the courts, then in 1854 he had read in the papers that Stephan A. Douglas, his political rival and Democratic senator from Illinois, had placed before Congress a bill which would reopen the territory of the Louisiana Purchase to slavery, as well as allow settlers in the Kansas and Nebraska territories to vote for themselves whether or not they wanted it, a concept which was called “popular sovereignty” by Douglas.  The resulting Kansas-Nebraska Act would do nothing more than provoke violent opposition; a border war would result between Kansas and Missouri as both pro and anti-slavery forces would cause much bloodshed; and voters in the Old Northwest, Illinois among them, would react vehemently against it, resulting in the destruction of the Whigs as a political party, and the birth of the Republicans, of which Lincoln quickly became a member.  The [[Dred Scott]] decision of 1856, in which a black man who sued for his freedom only to be told that he was never a citizen and had to remain a slave, only added more fuel to the fire, as the states were aligning slave versus free, North versus South. &lt;br /&gt;
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As the leading member of the Republican Party in Illinois, Lincoln was nominated for the Senate seat held by Douglas at the Republican State Convention in Springfield on June 16, 1858.  The acceptance speech he gave has been called the [[Lincoln's &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; Speech|House Divided]] speech, after the opening lines, which were based upon Matthew 12:25:&lt;br /&gt;
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:''If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do, and how to do it. We are now far into the fifth year since a policy was initiated with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to slavery agitation. Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only not ceased, but has constantly augmented. In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. &amp;quot;A house divided against itself cannot stand.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;!-- Matthew 12:25 --&amp;gt; I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved -- I do not expect the house to fall -- but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new -- North as well as South.'' [http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/divided.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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August through October, 1858 saw seven Illinois towns witnessing the [[Lincoln-Douglas debates]]; Douglas the national figure defending the choice of voters whether to accept slavery or not, and the little-known Lincoln taking a stand against slavery on political, social, and moral grounds.  Douglas never wavered from defending popular sovereignty, and he also played on the voters' fears of [[black integration]].  Stating blacks were inferior to whites, he appealed to racists by declaring that the government was &amp;quot;established upon the white basis.  It was made by white men, for the benefit of white men.&amp;quot;   (TL 1, pg 106).  Lincoln on the other hand knew Douglas was in a war of his own with President [[Franklin Buchanan]]'s administration over acceptance of the Kansas constitution which barred slavery from the state, further alienating Southern Democratic support; the fear was that Douglas would be more appealing to moderate Republicans in the east.  Lincoln's strategy therefore was to point out and use the vast difference between the moral indifference to slavery as embodied by Douglas's popular sovereignty, and the moral wrong that slavery actually was as embodied by Republican opposition to it. Douglas was, Lincoln insisted, a man who did not care whether slavery was &amp;quot;voted up or voted down.&amp;quot;  By his last debate, Lincoln would narrow the differences between himself and Douglas as the basic principle of right and wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;That is the real issue. That is the issue that will continue in this country when these poor tongues of Judge Douglas and myself shall be silent. It is the eternal struggle between these two principles -- right and wrong -- throughout the world. They are the two principles that have stood face to face from the beginning of time; and will ever continue to struggle. The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, &amp;quot;You work and toil and earn bread, and I'll eat it.&amp;quot; No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.&amp;quot;''  [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al11.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Douglas for his part knew how formidable his foe was, and declared that if he won, “it would be a hollow victory.” He did win, retaining his Senate seat, but by a narrow margin.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The presidency==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln and beard.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Soon after his election, a little girl named Grace Bedell wrote to Lincoln, telling him his face would be softened by the addition of a beard; here he just started on her advice.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:''My friends, no one, not in my situation, can appreciate my feeling of sadness at this parting. To this place, and the kindness of these people, I owe everything. Here I have lived a quarter of a century, and have passed from a young to an old man. Here my children have been born, and one is buried. I now leave, not knowing when, or whether ever, I may return, with a task before me greater than that which rested upon Washington. Without the assistance of the Divine Being who ever attended him, I cannot succeed. With that assistance I cannot fail. Trusting in Him who can go with me, and remain with you, and be everywhere for good, let us confidently hope that all will yet be well. To His care commending you, as I hope in your prayers you will commend me, I bid you an affectionate farewell.'' Lincoln's Farewell Speech to the citizens of Springfield, February 11, 1861.&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 18, 1860 at the Republican National Convention held in Chicago, Lincoln was nominated on the third ballot.  He then set aside his law practice and gave full time to the direction of his campaign, with the object of first uniting the Republicans from anything with which the party could disagree over.  The Democrats were already divided, having nominated Douglas in Baltimore on the Northern platform of popular sovereignty, and John C. Breckenridge who was elected on a platform of states’ rights and slavery by Southern Democrats.  Lincoln won the [[United States presidential election of 1860]], winning a clear majority in popular votes as well as electoral votes, despite winning no votes in the South.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The state of South Carolina proclaimed its secession from the Union in December, 1860, soon after Lincoln’s victory.  To try to prevent other states from following, compromises were hurriedly pushed through Congress, one of which, the [[Crittenden Amendment]], guaranteed the existence of slavery in perpetuity where it already existed, and dividing the territories between slave and free; Lincoln, however, was opposed to it, as he believed that despite this slavery would still expand south of the U.S. border.  Six more states seceded, joining with South Carolina to form the Confederate States of America.&lt;br /&gt;
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A crisis was thus forced upon Lincoln before he even entered the White House.  Fort Sumter, in South Carolina’s Charleston Harbor, was claimed by the Confederacy and ordered to be turned over; the commander, Major Robert Anderson, refused.  Lincoln, still in Springfield, asked Winfield Scott, general in chief of the U.S. Army, to be prepared “to either hold, or retake, the forts, as the case may require, at, and after the inauguration.”&lt;br /&gt;
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On the 4th of March, 1861, a few weeks after Jefferson Davis was inaugurated as president of the Confederacy, Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated as the nation's 16th president.  In his address he reiterated his stance, and what he believed the stance of the nation should be, namely non-interference with slavery where it existed, and preventing slavery to spread in the territories, and above all was his stand to preserve the Union.  The substance of what he said was conciliatory, but it also mentioned the obvious&lt;br /&gt;
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However, communications between the fort and Charleston broke down, and General P.G.T. Beauregard, believing Fort Sumter had a supply ship on the way, ordered the fort shelled on April 14, 1865.  The Civil War had begun.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil War==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mary Todd Lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Mary Todd Lincoln]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln’s goal was to preserve the Union; he would have been happy to preserve the peace as well, but he was willing to engage in a war to preserve it as well, a war he thought would be short.  After Fort Sumter he proclaimed a blockade of Southern ports and called for thousands of volunteers to enlist for ninety days.  He also believed that an overland war was inevitable, and he ordered forces on a march on the Virginia front, resulting in the first great defeat for the Union at Bull Run (July 21, 1861).  Shortly afterward, Lincoln issued a set of memorandums for the military, of which his basic thought was that armies in the field must advance concurrently and on several fronts.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Finding himself as the leader of a country now at war, Lincoln used a description of himself in which he let events control him, and then react to the problem.  It was something of himself that was used with success as a politician.  In this sense he was being practical, ready to employ an action or decision which would help the cause, and ready to abandon it and use another if the first failed.  But his first insight with which he held fast to, that of taking the fight to the enemy’s army, failed many times when successive generals tried to take the fight to the enemy’s capitol and failed, or failed in following up on a rare victory.  He had George McClellan on the Peninsula, but was beaten back during the Seven Days battles.  His replacement, John Pope, lost in a repeat of Bull Run.  McClellan was back again, winning a victory at Antietam, but failed to follow through in capturing the enemy’s army afterwards.  Then Ambrose Burnside, followed by Joseph Hooker, led the Army of the Potomac to massive defeats at Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville, respectively.  Then George Gordon Meade was put in, just in time for the Battle of Gettysburg; Meade would not finish off the enemy either.  Robert E. Lee, the commander of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia, commented on the frequent changes in generals.  “I’m afraid they’re going to find a general I cannot understand.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Having seen what he done at Donelson, Shiloh, Vicksburg, and Chattanooga, Lincoln found the fighting general he was looking for in Ulysses S. Grant.  In March 1864 he promoted Grant to lieutenant general and gave him command of all Federal armies.  Grant would have his headquarters in the field with Meade’s Army of the Potomac, and his subordinates William T. Sherman, Philip Sheridan, and George H. Thomas would each lead an army to take the fight to the enemy.  Halleck would be given a new title, chief of staff, and remain in Washington as the presidential liaison.  Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton would be responsible for the procurement of men and supplies.  By this reorganization Lincoln created the structure of the high command in which all the energies of and resources of the country were mobilized into a grand strategy for the completion of the war.  It was all the more remarkable as prior to 1861, he had no knowledge of military theory or affairs; he threw himself into studying the subject that by 1864, he was considered to be something of a military genius.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Ann Rutledge played a part in stories as being the first woman Lincoln may have fallen in love with.  However, evidence is scant, and what surviving letters and documents there are indicate they were close friends.  She died in 1835 at the age of 22, and the entire community grieved with Lincoln.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln and tad.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The irrepressible Tad Lincoln, striking a typical pose next to his father, who could barely restrain a smile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The one true love of Lincoln’s life was a well-educated woman with a quick wit, [[Mary Todd]], from a well-to-do family in Springfield.  Lincoln endured a courtship that lasted two years (and was broken once), before they were married on November 4, 1842.  Together they would have four boys: Robert Todd, Edward Baker (“Eddie”, who died at age 4), William Wallace (“Willie”), and Thomas (“Tad”).  Willie and Tad were the first children in the White House, and the halls and gardens were filled with childish romps, especially from the rambunctious, uncontrollable Tad, who once took a group of office seekers there to see the president on a trip through a confusing maze of hanging laundry; drove a herd of goats inside; got into the attic and rang the servants’ bells for hours; and succeeded in getting his doll executed for sleeping on watch.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Lincolns also had their share of quarrels, and stories passed through the years tended to exaggerate them, but existing letters between the two indicate they were like any other married couple.  They were devoted to each other’s company, and when apart they missed each other.  &amp;quot;I have fallen in love with her,&amp;quot; Lincoln would write to a friend about Mary, &amp;quot;and have never fallen out.&amp;quot;  Mary did have fits of temper and a sense of insecurity; while in the White House she had spells of simple jealousy which she staged in front of guests; sometimes the scene would be quite embarrassing.  She also rang up large bills for her personal wardrobe and redecorating the White House; Lincoln, when he found out one such bill which totaled near $20,000 and coupled with a request for Congress to appropriate the money needed to pay for it, displayed a rare occurrence of pure anger:&lt;br /&gt;
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The early deaths of Eddie in 1850 and Willie in 1863 may have played a role in Mary’s eccentricity.  Lincoln did what he could to support her, even pointing out the presence of a nearby building which housed a sanitarium, hinting that Mary could be placed there if she didn't control herself over Willie's death.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On slavery==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1841, Lincoln had a flatboat trip down the Mississippi, and he saw sitting on board another boat a group of slaves chained together.  He described the sight in a letter to Joshua Speed in 1855: “You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Though technically a free-soilist, Lincoln hated slavery.  “I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself,” he declared. “I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world; enables the enemies of free institutions with plausibility to taunt us as hypocrites.” [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al05.htm] In 1855, writing to his friend Joshua Speed, he recalled a steamboat trip the two had taken on the Ohio River14 years earlier. “You may remember, as I well do,” he said, “that from Louisville [Kentucky] to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border.” [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al03.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln often penned fragments on slavery.  He would begin it by starting a hypothetical vested interest in slavery, and end it with the only logical conclusion, that is was a great moral wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''If A. can prove, however conclusively, that he may, of right, enslave B.—why may not B. snatch the same argument, and prove equally, that he may enslave A?''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''You do not mean color exactly? You mean the whites are intellectually the superiors of the blacks, and, therefore have the right to enslave them? Take care again. By this rule, you are to be slave to the first man you meet, with an intellect superior to your own.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But, say you, it is a question of interest; and, if you can make it your interest; you have the right to enslave another. Very well. And if he can make it his interest, he has the right to enslave you.'' (Fragment on Slavery, April, 1854)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was elected on a platform which pledged no interference with slavery where it had already existed, and he was hesitant to adopt an abolitionist policy.  He was concerned about the reaction of the border states should such a policy be enacted.  He was concerned about four million newly-freed blacks being incorporated into the country’s social, economic, and political life.  Some individuals, such as General John C. Freemont, made it a point to proclaim freedom in districts which they had conquered; Lincoln revoked those proclamations.  In a letter to Horace Greely, Lincoln plainly stated&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was willing to play a major part in removing slavery altogether during the war.  He first proposed an idea in which slaves were to be freed gradually by the actions of the states, with the federal government sharing the cost of compensation.  None of the border states were willing to implement it, and no prominent African-American leader was willing to see newly-freed blacks sent to Africa, as part of the idea called for.&lt;br /&gt;
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But with the victory at Antietam in September 1862, Lincoln brought out an idea which he read before his cabinet, that slaves held in the Confederate States were declared to be free.  He would declare it formally with his Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863.  Although it did not include those areas under Union control, and officially it was a war measure, it had a great deal of significance as a symbol, and European countries who had toyed with the idea of recognizing the Confederacy abandoned it and supported the Union.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln also felt that the freed slaves would be put back in chains at war's end, as the Proclamation itself was not constitutional.  But Lincoln was prepared for something else: he drafted the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which stated slavery was illegal except for crimes committed.  He also urged the Republican Party to add the proposed amendment as a plank to the 1864 presidential campaign, stating slavery was the cause of the war, and that the Proclamation had aimed “a death blow at this gigantic evil;” only by a constitutional amendment could slavery be rendered extinct.  After the election, Lincoln did not wait for the new Congress.  He got the two-thirds needed for ratification before the year was over, and rejoiced when his state of Illinois led the way.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free - honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just - a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.&amp;quot;'' Annual Message to Congress, December 1, 1862.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religion==&lt;br /&gt;
Abraham Lincoln, like many other people of his day, believed, at least initially, that &amp;quot;Religion is a private affair between a man and his God.&amp;quot;  Doubts about Lincoln's faith have arisen mainly because he never officially joined a church, which his political opponents used sometimes to accuse him.  He had a love of the Bible and memorized parts of the Bible, and used biblical allusions later on in political speech.  Lincoln said once that:&lt;br /&gt;
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He also made statements that suggest a strong faith, such as when his father was ill:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Tell father to remember to call upon and confide in our great, and good, and merciful Maker who will not turn away from him in any extremity.  He notes the fall of a sparrow and numbers the hairs of our heads; and he will not forget the dying man who puts his trust in him.  If it is to be his lot to go now, he will soon have a joyous meeting with many loved ones gone before; and where the rest of us, through the help of God, hope ere long to join them.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of Lincoln's views on faith as a youth, it seemed to grow as President.  Lincoln penciled in &amp;quot;under God&amp;quot; after &amp;quot;one nation&amp;quot; for his [[Gettysburg Address]] delivered on November 19, 1863.  The phrase &amp;quot;under God&amp;quot; was not in the early drafts.  Mrs. Lincoln recalled her husband's last words just prior to his assassination in Ford's Theater: &amp;quot;He said he wanted to visit the Holy Land and see those places hallowed by the footprints of the [[Savior]]. He was saying there was no city he so much desired to see as Jerusalem.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.amerisearch.net/index.php?date=2004-09-08&amp;amp;view=View&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1864, a close friend of Lincoln's, Joshua Speed, confided in Lincoln that he did not accept the Bible as true. Lincoln famously replied, &amp;quot;Take all this book upon reason that you can, and the balance on faith, and you will live and die a happier and better man&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Lincoln was shot at Ford's theater two clergy claimed that he had made a secret trip from Washington to be baptized.  Also a Roman Catholic Priest claimed that Lincoln received the sacrament of baptism in secret.  Neither of these claims have any proof in White House records or his personal diary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [[God and the Oval Office]], by John C. McCollister, W Publishing, 2005.  &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lincoln's conservatism==&lt;br /&gt;
In his [[Lincoln's Cooper Union Speech|Cooper Union Address]], Lincoln spoke of the sectionalism which was fracturing the country as a result of slavery; the Republican Party was new in 1859, and a serious threat to slavery's existence.  Lincoln and his party were called radical and destructive, but he counted himself among the earliest defenders of conservative principles, which was in essence a defense of time-honored, traditional values. Lincoln said that out of the 39 framers of the Constitution, 23 of the 39 voted on whether to prevent the spread of slavery, and that 21 of the 23 voted in favor of doing so. Lincoln therefore said that it was the pro-slavery South that was radically breaking with the tradition begun by those that created the Constitution. As Lincoln said:&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by &amp;quot;our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;&amp;quot; while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the &amp;quot;gur-reat pur-rinciple&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;if one man would enslave another, no third man should object,&amp;quot; fantastically called &amp;quot;Popular Sovereignty;&amp;quot; but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of &amp;quot;our fathers who framed the Government under which we live.''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lincoln's style of writing==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln seated.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Lincoln in November, 1863, about to leave for Pennsylvania.  The reason for his confident look may have been within the envelope lying on the table, believed to contain his draft of the Gettysburg Address]]&lt;br /&gt;
A White House visitor, Orville Browning, told Lincoln's personal secretary John Nicolay one day that he had spoke to Lincoln sometime in 1861 on the subject of slavery; that if the right thing about slavery wasn't done, God just couldn't be on the side of the Union. Browning remembered Lincoln's reply: &amp;quot;What if the Almighty takes a different view of slavery than we do?&amp;quot;, and right then and there Browning realized that Lincoln had thought very deep on the subject, much deeper than Browning did. [http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/books/wilson.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was known to think long and deep on various topics, and often he would take notes, write them on little scraps of paper, and stuff them into his tall stovepipe hat for later use.  When it was time for use, such as his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech, he pulled them out, laid them on a table, and would commence to writing.  He would sift through the subject, adding this, removing that, and sometimes he would stand in his empty room and deliver it out loud to an imaginary audience, testing the effects of what he spoke, and altering it as needed.  According to author Garry Wills, Lincoln brought to bear the rhetorical tone of the Greek Revival and Transcendental movements, in which spoken oratory was practiced in government and on the stage.  The leading speakers of this time, and whom Lincoln looked upon, were Danial Webster and Henry Clay, both of the Senate, and Edward Everett, a speaker much in demand.&lt;br /&gt;
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The training he had given himself also enabled him to write a simple letter or a speech on the spot.  Words would flow clear when Lincoln wrote in his later years, and he didn't have to do twice one of his finest personal letters, one of consolation to Mrs. Bixby of Boston, who had lost five sons in the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.''&lt;br /&gt;
:''I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.''&lt;br /&gt;
:''I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.''&lt;br /&gt;
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What many consider his masterpiece is the [[Gettysburg Address]].  Here Lincoln, going through perhaps a dozen writes and re-writes of what he had thought on the subject, entirely changed the meaning of the war itself in a mere 272 words, and in so doing, according to Wills, remaking America.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Politics in war==&lt;br /&gt;
That there had to be a certain degree of support to win the war was a given, and Lincoln strove to have unity for that effort in the North.  Politics was required, and Lincoln had a special knack for appealing to his fellows and talking to them at their own level and language.  He would smooth over lingering differences, and held the loyalty of those who were antagonistic to one another.  &lt;br /&gt;
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But the Democrats remained strong, and frequently clashed.  Its member included both war and peace Democrats; the peace side was called “Copperheads”, after the snake which strikes without warning while hidden.  Lincoln tried conciliating with both, but with the latter he had to resort to arrest at times, most famously to an Ohio Congressman, Clement L. Valandigham, who was arrested after he had repeatedly exhorted soldiers to desert.  He justified his actions on the grounds that the suspension of ''habeas corpus'' was necessary only in times of rebellion, insurrection, or when the public safety may require it, as stated in the Constitution; certainly the Civil War had met those specific conditions.  Many would dissent, and openly criticize Lincoln for arbitrarily violating the Constitution that he had sworn to preserve.  In response to the criticism in general, and the case of Valandigham in particular, Lincoln wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Must I shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert? This is none the less injurious when effected by getting a father, or brother, or friend, into a public meeting, and there working upon his feeling, till he is persuaded to write the soldier boy, that he is fighting in a bad cause, for a wicked administration of a contemptable government, too weak to arrest and punish him if he shall desert. I think that in such a case, to silence the agitator, and save the boy, is not only constitutional, but, withal, a great mercy.&amp;quot;'' [http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;type=boolean;rgn=div1;q1=soldier;op2=and;q2=deserts;op3=and;q3=agitator;singlegenre=All;view=text;subview=detail;sort=occur;idno=lincoln6;node=lincoln6%3A569]&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln faced reelection against Democrat George McClellan in 1864, who promised a restoration of the Union, but waffled on many of its points, even abandoning the Democratic platform of armistice and peaceful separation.  Lincoln was able to beat him in the election, assisted by the timely victories of Sheridan in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, and Sherman in Georgia.  Overtures of peace from Confederates were not wholly rejected.  On February 3, 1865, Lincoln met with Confederate commissioners, among them Vice President Alexander Stephens, on a steamship in Hampton Roads, Virginia.  There would be peace, he insisted, if the South would quit the war, abandon slavery, and accept re-unification, and once these conditions were met he would gracious with pardons.  But his terms satisfied neither the Confederacy nor the Radical Republicans in Congress.&lt;br /&gt;
His postwar policy was one of compassion.  As he explained to his top leaders on board a riverboat, the City Queen, he wanted peace above all else.  His Second Inaugural Address expressed his point of healing the wounds caused by the war.&lt;br /&gt;
:''With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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When asked specifically, he related the following, according to General Sherman, one of those present:&lt;br /&gt;
:''Mr. Lincoln was full and frank in his conversation, assuring me that in his mind he was all ready for the civil reorganization of affairs at the South as soon as the war was over; and he distinctly authorized me to assure Governor Vance and the people of North Carolina that, as soon as the rebel armies laid down their arms, and resumed their civil pursuits, they would at once be guaranteed all their rights as citizens of a common country; and that to avoid anarchy the State governments then in existence, with their civil functionaries, would be recognized by him as the government de facto till Congress could provide others.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:''I know, when I left him, that I was more than ever impressed by his kindly nature, his deep and earnest sympathy with the afflictions of the whole people, resulting from the war, and by the march of hostile armies through the South; and that his earnest desire seemed to be to end the war speedily, without more bloodshed or devastation, and to restore all the men of both sections to their homes. In the language of his second inaugural address, he seemed to have &amp;quot;charity for all, malice toward none,&amp;quot; and, above all, an absolute faith in the courage, manliness, and integrity of the armies in the field.'' [http://www.sonshi.com/sherman24.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Final curtain==&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln received the news of Lee’s surrender at Appomattox, Virginia, on April 9, and he was called out to the balcony of the White House that night by a large crowd gathered in celebration.  When asked to make a speech, Lincoln noticed a band among them, and made an unusual request.&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;I have always thought ‘Dixie’ one of the best tunes I have ever heard. Our adversaries over the way attempted to appropriate it, but I insisted that we fairly captured it. I presented it to the Attorney General, and he gave it as his legal opinion that it is our lawful prize. I now request the band to favor me with its performance.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
He entered Richmond the following day, to the joyous delight of free blacks, who welcomed the arrival of &amp;quot;Father Abraham&amp;quot; as they called him, and he paid a visit to the Confederate White House, and sat at the desk of Jefferson Davis.  The only thing he asked for was a glass of water.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just four days later on April 14 he attended a play at Ford's Theater.  It was called ''Our American Cousin'', with well-known stage actress Laura Keane and comedian Harry Hawke in the title role.  Unseen to the audience was another actor making his way quietly up the stairs to the president's private box, [[John Wilkes Booth]], a Southern sympathizer who had hatched a conspiracy with a few others to kill the president and other leading officials.  Booth entered the box, shot Lincoln in the head, stabbed a guest, and dropped to the stage, escaping behind the curtains.  Taken across the street to a boarding house, the mortally-wounded Lincoln was laid across a small bed in humble surroundings, similar it seemed, to where he was born.  He died at sunrise a few hours later.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Now he belongs to the ages&amp;quot; Edwin Stanton was heard to say.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCollister, John C. ''God and the Oval Office'', W Publishing Group, Nashville, Tennessee(2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sandburg, Carl. ''Abraham Lincoln'', Harcourt, Brace and Company, New York (1954)&lt;br /&gt;
*Walsh, John E. ''Moonlight'', St. Martin's Press, New York (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodwin, Doris Kearns. ''Team of Rivals: the Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln'', Simon and Schuster, New York (2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Hanchett, William. ''The Lincoln Murder Conspiracies'', University of Illinois (1983)&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald, David Herbert. ''Lincoln'', Jonathan Cafe (Random House), London (1995)&lt;br /&gt;
*Wills, Gary. ''Lincoln at Gettysburg: the Words that Remade America'', Simon and Schuster, New York (1992)&lt;br /&gt;
*White, Ronald C. Jr. ''The Eloquent President: A [[portraits|Portrait]] of Lincoln Through His Words'', Random House, New York (2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Carwardine, Richard. ''Lincoln: A Life of Purpose and Power'', Alfred A. Knopf, New York (2003)&lt;br /&gt;
*Time-Life Books ''The Civil War'', vol. 1 (''Brother Against Brother''), Time Inc, New York (1983)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/ Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln.html Abraham Lincoln Online]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.abrahamlincolnarchive.com/Home.aspx Lincoln Archive of original newspaper articles]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/ History Place: Lincoln timeline]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/liho/index.htm Lincoln's Home National Historic Site]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/al16.html White House site; short bio on Lincoln]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.mrlincolnandfriends.org/inside.asp?pageID=112&amp;amp;subjectID=1 Mr. Lincoln and Friends]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al02.htm Declaration against slavery, Illinois State Legislature, March 3, 1837]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al03.htm Lincoln's letter to Joshua Speed, August 24, 1855]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al05.htm Speech in Peoria, Illinois, October 16, 1854]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;q1=erastus;q2=corning;op2=and;op3=and;rgn=works;idno=ACK7441.0001.001;didno=ACK7441.0001.001;view=image;seq=00000227 Letter to Erastus Corning and Others, June 13, 1863, in which Lincoln explains his suspention of ''habeas corpus'']&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sonshi.com/sherman.html Memoirs of William T. Sherman ]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Abraham Lincoln''' was the 16th [[President of the United States of America]] serving from 1861 to 1865.  He led his country through one of the darker chapters in American history; the [[American Civil War | Civil War]]. He was [[homeschooled]] and almost completely self-taught, which likely gave him independent thinking, reliance on logic, and a desire to continue to learn as an adult.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Lincoln successfully proved all of Euclid's theorems while serving in Congress.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is considered the most eloquent writer of any American president in history thus far. He is also one of the very few whose [[faith]] developed and grew while holding high public office.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life==&lt;br /&gt;
''“I was born Feb. 12, 1809, in Hardin County, Kentucky. My parents were both born in Virginia, of undistinguished families-- second families, perhaps I should say. My mother, who died in my tenth year, was of a family of the name of Hanks, some of whom now reside in Adams, and others in Macon Counties, Illinois.”'' [http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/autobiog.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Abraham Lincoln was born in a backwoods cabin some three miles south of Hodgenville, Kentucky.  His father was Thomas Lincoln; a descendant of a weaver’s apprentice who had migrated to Massachusetts from England some years after the [[Mayflower]] landed. Thomas was a sturdy man, committed to pioneering in the new lands of Kentucky and Indiana despite his lack of prosperity. He married Nancy Hanks on June 12, 1806, and together they had three children: Sarah, Abraham, and Thomas, who did not survive infancy. Young Abraham’s earliest memories of his days in Kentucky involved helping his father plant some seeds of corn and sunflower, and a flood that washed them away.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Young abraham lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The oldest-known photograph of Lincoln, about 1847.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In December 1816 Thomas had to pack up his family and leave for southwestern Indiana to avoid a lawsuit which had threatened him with a takeover of his property. There he built what was a “half-faced” camp; a crude log structure with one side open to the elements, and there the family stayed as squatters on public land until Thomas had finished a permanent cabin, and later would buy the land outright on which it stood. Helping Thomas clear the land and plowing the fields was Abraham, who would also take care of the crops but developed a dislike for tasks which put additional food on the table, hunting and fishing. The poverty, Lincoln recalled, was “pretty pinching” at times, and by the age of nine he was a tall, lanky boy dressed rather ragged and unkempt.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then the fall of 1818 brought the hardest blow: Nancy had died of the “milk sickness”, leaving Abraham without the mother whom he deeply loved. Some time later, Thomas had taken the buckboard and the mule, and left Abraham and Sarah on their own for two weeks; when he returned, he was with a new wife, Sarah Bush Johnson; she immediately made up for the absence of Nancy by replacing Abraham’s corn husk mattress with one of down, winning him over the first day.  The new step-mother treated both children with an even hand (she herself was a widow with three children, whom she had brought), but she became very fond of Abraham, and he in turn was fond of her, referring to her as his “angel mother” for the rest of his life.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
Both of Abraham’s parents were nearly completely illiterate, and he himself had not much more than one year of formal education.  When he did go to school, it was by “littles” – a little here, a little there – and he would call it “blab” school, which meant that they had to recite their lessons constantly due to lack of paper, pencils, and chalk.  “Of course, when I came of age I did not know much. Still, somehow, I could read, write, and cipher to the rule of three; but that was all.”  &lt;br /&gt;
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His step-mother encouraged his reading as much as possible, and although Abraham did not have access to a large number of books, he would read as much of what was there, and read voraciously. He read John Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress, ''Aesop’s Fables'', Daniel DeFoe’s ''Robinson Crusoe'', Parson Weems's ''Life and Memorable Actions of George Washington'', Edward Gibbon’s ''Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'', and undoubtedly he read many times the only book his family actually owned, the Bible. He would walk for miles to borrow a book he heard about, and after his chores he would collapse into a heap in front of the fire and read for hours. He would say years later that his best friend was the man who let him borrow a book he hadn’t read yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The Rail-Splitter===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Railsplitter.jpg|thumb|200px|right|An artist's impression of a young Abe Lincoln, the ''Rail-Splitter''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Lincolns moved to Illinois in March, 1830, with Abraham driving the team of oxen himself, a young man of 21, rawboned and lanky at six feet four inches tall.  But the years working on the Indiana farm have also made him physically powerful, and on his arrival in Illinois he was soon to demonstrate the skill with which he could wield an axe, putting it to good use by clearing the trees and laying the fence on his father’s new farm; the speed with which he could take tree trunks and split them into the rails needed for the fencing just by using his axe earned him the nickname “rail-splitter.” He could make an axe flash and bite deep; one neighbor saying “He could sink an axe deeper into wood than any man I ever saw.” After a good deal of chopping, he could take the axe by its handle and hold it straight out away from his body, without a single quiver. (Sandburg, pg. 14) Good-natured as well, he would make friends easily, despite his awkward-looking stride and backwoods language.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln hair.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Fearing that his friends wouldn't recognize him &amp;quot;without a bad tousle&amp;quot;, Lincoln messed his hair up in this picture before the photographer closed the shutter.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Soon, he signed on as a deckhand on a flatboat, and made a voyage down the Mississippi River to New Orleans. When he returned he settled in a small town on the Sangamon River called New Salem, working as a store keeper, surveyor, or a postmaster, the later of which allowed him to be the first to read the arriving newspapers. Then talk went about town of Lincoln’s utter honesty, how he would walk six miles to return a few cents to a customer he had accidentally overcharged, or the woman that had bought some tea, and having used the wrong weight for the purchase, Lincoln made the correction and walked the many miles to her house to ensure she got the right order (Sandburg, pp 24-25).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1832 he enlisted in the Black Hawk War, and was elected captain of his company, but the only fighting he admitted seeing action in was the “many bloody struggles with the mosquitoes.”  After he was mustered out of his company, he aspired for the state legislature, losing the contest the first time he ran, then getting elected and re-elected several times afterward.  He had briefly thought about practicing the trade of blacksmithing, but his craving of reading led him to law books, which caused some serious studying. Lincoln passed the bar in 1836, and began a new career practicing law.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Springfield==&lt;br /&gt;
The following year he moved to the new state capital of Illinois, Springfield, becoming law partners with John T. Stuart, Stephan T. Logan, and finally William H. Herndon in 1844, who, although junior in age to Lincoln by a decade, made a good, balanced partner. Few records exist of their law business, and when they got paid for their services they split the cash, no matter who was paid. Lincoln would earn $1,200 - $1,500 annually within just a few years; by comparison circuit judges earned $750. But to earn it he kept busy and worked hard; often he would climb into his buggy and travel the circuit of neighboring counties and practice before the courts there.  And often the cases he would be involved in were petty&lt;br /&gt;
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Years before he had tried, and failed, to push legislation through the state assembly to have the Sangamon River made navigable to New Salem; by 1850 the railroads were bringing business and prosperity to Illinois, and Lincoln, by virtue of the ease the railroad made in traveling to his courts, profited more. He had served as a lobbyist for the Illinois Central Railroad, enabling it to get a state charter; he would defend the company against McClean County’s unsuccessful efforts to tax it. He handles cases for other railroads, banks, manufacturing, and other large companies in the state; he handled some patent suits and a few criminal trials.  And he also saved the first bridge to cross the Mississippi River from demolition, when river interests demanded the bridge be taken down.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The moonlight murder===&lt;br /&gt;
In Lincoln’s New Salem days he was introduced to the Clary’s Grove Boys, a group of rowdy men from that nearby town would come into New Salem to bully some of the male townsfolk.  The leader of the group was Jack Armstrong, who’s challenge to wrestle the Salem men usually resulted in Armstrong throwing the unfortunate man to the ground in a very short time; when he saw Lincoln, Armstrong would dismiss the lanky young man as a pushover.  It was when they fought that Armstrong discovered just how hard it was to throw Lincoln – in fact, it was impossible.  The battle ended in a draw, and the good-natured Lincoln made a new friend.  Armstrong would later be one of the men to elect Lincoln to lead the company of volunteers in the Black Hawk War.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1856, Jack Armstrong’s son, William (or “Duff”), was charged with murder.  A witness had claimed that he had seen Duff and another kill a New Salem man late at night by the light of full moon.  Lincoln pulled out an almanac and proved that the witness could not have seen anything at all, as the moon was at its quarter and had actually set over an hour before.  Duff was acquitted, and Lincoln won the case.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
Andrew Jackson, the hero of New Orleans in the War of 1812 and a Democrat from Tennessee, was in the White House when Lincoln first entered politics.  He shared with Jackson the sympathies for the common man, but differed in the role of government as related to it; Jackson stated the government should be separated from the economic enterprise, while Lincoln was of the view that “the legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but cannot do at all, or cannot do so well, for themselves, in their separate and individual capacities.”   Lincoln most associated himself with the Whig Party, as among their members Henry Clay and Daniel Webster both advocated a government should be encouraging business, and the development of the country to that end.  It was an easy choice for Lincoln: he saw Illinois as needing such aid to improve the development of its own economy.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Illinois State Legislature Lincoln found that politics could be detrimental and harsh, as well as rewarding.  An example of the former occurred in 1836, just as he gave a speech in support of his re-election.  Democrat John Forquer, also seeking election, used his response and acid tounge to denounce him. &amp;quot;This young man needs to be taken down&amp;quot; he said, pointing to Lincoln, &amp;quot;and I'm afraid the task devolves upon me.&amp;quot; The success of Forquer's speech convinced some of Lincoln's own allies that his career was over.&lt;br /&gt;
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But when Lincoln rose to make his rebuttal, he thought of Forquer, and what he had done recently in conniving with President Jackson to change parties; in reward for doing so he was made Government Land Register with a $3,000 annual salary. Forquer was then able to construct a fine new house in Springfield, complete with a curiosity residents had heard about from science but had never seen before: a lightning rod.  Before he entered the state house building that day, Lincoln spent a few minutes at Forquer's house staring at the thing, and having heard Forquer's speech later on, he thought of what he saw.  Lincoln's reply was blistering, and sealed Forquer's fate. &lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;Among other things he said, the gentleman commenced his speech by saying that 'this young man,' alluding to me, 'must be taken down.' I am not so young in years as I am in the tricks and the trades of a politician, but, live long or die young, I would rather die now than, like the gentleman, change my politics, and with the change receive an office worth $3,000 a year, and then feel obliged to erect a lightning-rod over my house to protect a guilty conscience from an offended God!&amp;quot;'' (Sandburg, pg.49)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln also proposed state funding to construct a network of roads, railroads, and canals.  Both Whigs and Democrats would join in for the passing of this omnibus bill, but a business depression was created by the panic of 1837, and as a result most of the provisions in the bill were abandoned.  1837 was also marked by the murder of Elijah Lovejoy, a newspaperman from Alton who was killed by a mob due to his anti-slavery views.  The legislature introduced resolutions defending Southern slavery while condemning abolitionist societies, as per the U.S. Constitution.  In protest of the resolutions Lincoln, with a fellow legislator, drew up a declaration [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al02.htm] which stated that slavery was “founded on both injustice and bad policy,” while also declaring that “the promulgation of abolition doctrines tends rather to increase than to abate its evils.”&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lawyer Lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Lincoln in the late 1850's, about to debate his rival Stephen A. Douglas.]]&lt;br /&gt;
He only served one term in the United States Congress, 1847 to 1849, during which time he did little on legislative matters.  He did introduce a bill calling for a gradual emancipation of slaves within the District of Columbia, but since it hinged on the approval of the white citizens there, it only caused mild anger from abolitionists as well as slave holders, and was quietly dropped.  His one main issue was over the Mexican War, in which he condemned the American entry into it on false pretenses, particularly blaming current president James K. Polk. He worked toward the nomination of Zachary Taylor for the presidency, and when Taylor had won, Lincoln expected to be rewarded with the job of land commissioner, but failed.  He was voted out of office by his constituents, as they felt he was too critical of the war.  Disillusioned, he left politics and reentered his law practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Return to politics==&lt;br /&gt;
He stayed out for five years, winning several cases before the courts, then in 1854 he had read in the papers that Stephan A. Douglas, his political rival and Democratic senator from Illinois, had placed before Congress a bill which would reopen the territory of the Louisiana Purchase to slavery, as well as allow settlers in the Kansas and Nebraska territories to vote for themselves whether or not they wanted it, a concept which was called “popular sovereignty” by Douglas.  The resulting Kansas-Nebraska Act would do nothing more than provoke violent opposition; a border war would result between Kansas and Missouri as both pro and anti-slavery forces would cause much bloodshed; and voters in the Old Northwest, Illinois among them, would react vehemently against it, resulting in the destruction of the Whigs as a political party, and the birth of the Republicans, of which Lincoln quickly became a member.  The [[Dred Scott]] decision of 1856, in which a black man who sued for his freedom only to be told that he was never a citizen and had to remain a slave, only added more fuel to the fire, as the states were aligning slave versus free, North versus South. &lt;br /&gt;
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As the leading member of the Republican Party in Illinois, Lincoln was nominated for the Senate seat held by Douglas at the Republican State Convention in Springfield on June 16, 1858.  The acceptance speech he gave has been called the [[Lincoln's &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; Speech|House Divided]] speech, after the opening lines, which were based upon Matthew 12:25:&lt;br /&gt;
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:''If we could first know where we are, and whither we are tending, we could better judge what to do, and how to do it. We are now far into the fifth year since a policy was initiated with the avowed object, and confident promise, of putting an end to slavery agitation. Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only not ceased, but has constantly augmented. In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. &amp;quot;A house divided against itself cannot stand.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;!-- Matthew 12:25 --&amp;gt; I believe this government cannot endure permanently half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved -- I do not expect the house to fall -- but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new -- North as well as South.'' [http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/divided.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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August through October, 1858 saw seven Illinois towns witnessing the [[Lincoln-Douglas debates]]; Douglas the national figure defending the choice of voters whether to accept slavery or not, and the little-known Lincoln taking a stand against slavery on political, social, and moral grounds.  Douglas never wavered from defending popular sovereignty, and he also played on the voters' fears of [[black integration]].  Stating blacks were inferior to whites, he appealed to racists by declaring that the government was &amp;quot;established upon the white basis.  It was made by white men, for the benefit of white men.&amp;quot;   (TL 1, pg 106).  Lincoln on the other hand knew Douglas was in a war of his own with President [[Franklin Buchanan]]'s administration over acceptance of the Kansas constitution which barred slavery from the state, further alienating Southern Democratic support; the fear was that Douglas would be more appealing to moderate Republicans in the east.  Lincoln's strategy therefore was to point out and use the vast difference between the moral indifference to slavery as embodied by Douglas's popular sovereignty, and the moral wrong that slavery actually was as embodied by Republican opposition to it. Douglas was, Lincoln insisted, a man who did not care whether slavery was &amp;quot;voted up or voted down.&amp;quot;  By his last debate, Lincoln would narrow the differences between himself and Douglas as the basic principle of right and wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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Douglas for his part knew how formidable his foe was, and declared that if he won, “it would be a hollow victory.” He did win, retaining his Senate seat, but by a narrow margin.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The presidency==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln and beard.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Soon after his election, a little girl named Grace Bedell wrote to Lincoln, telling him his face would be softened by the addition of a beard; here he just started on her advice.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:''My friends, no one, not in my situation, can appreciate my feeling of sadness at this parting. To this place, and the kindness of these people, I owe everything. Here I have lived a quarter of a century, and have passed from a young to an old man. Here my children have been born, and one is buried. I now leave, not knowing when, or whether ever, I may return, with a task before me greater than that which rested upon Washington. Without the assistance of the Divine Being who ever attended him, I cannot succeed. With that assistance I cannot fail. Trusting in Him who can go with me, and remain with you, and be everywhere for good, let us confidently hope that all will yet be well. To His care commending you, as I hope in your prayers you will commend me, I bid you an affectionate farewell.'' Lincoln's Farewell Speech to the citizens of Springfield, February 11, 1861.&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 18, 1860 at the Republican National Convention held in Chicago, Lincoln was nominated on the third ballot.  He then set aside his law practice and gave full time to the direction of his campaign, with the object of first uniting the Republicans from anything with which the party could disagree over.  The Democrats were already divided, having nominated Douglas in Baltimore on the Northern platform of popular sovereignty, and John C. Breckenridge who was elected on a platform of states’ rights and slavery by Southern Democrats.  Lincoln won the [[United States presidential election of 1860]], winning a clear majority in popular votes as well as electoral votes, despite winning no votes in the South.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The state of South Carolina proclaimed its secession from the Union in December, 1860, soon after Lincoln’s victory.  To try to prevent other states from following, compromises were hurriedly pushed through Congress, one of which, the [[Crittenden Amendment]], guaranteed the existence of slavery in perpetuity where it already existed, and dividing the territories between slave and free; Lincoln, however, was opposed to it, as he believed that despite this slavery would still expand south of the U.S. border.  Six more states seceded, joining with South Carolina to form the Confederate States of America.&lt;br /&gt;
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A crisis was thus forced upon Lincoln before he even entered the White House.  Fort Sumter, in South Carolina’s Charleston Harbor, was claimed by the Confederacy and ordered to be turned over; the commander, Major Robert Anderson, refused.  Lincoln, still in Springfield, asked Winfield Scott, general in chief of the U.S. Army, to be prepared “to either hold, or retake, the forts, as the case may require, at, and after the inauguration.”&lt;br /&gt;
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On the 4th of March, 1861, a few weeks after Jefferson Davis was inaugurated as president of the Confederacy, Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated as the nation's 16th president.  In his address he reiterated his stance, and what he believed the stance of the nation should be, namely non-interference with slavery where it existed, and preventing slavery to spread in the territories, and above all was his stand to preserve the Union.  The substance of what he said was conciliatory, but it also mentioned the obvious&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;In your hands, my dissatisfied fellow-countrymen, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. The Government will not assail you. You can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressors. You have no oath registered in heaven to destroy the Government, while I shall have the most solemn one to &amp;quot;preserve, protect, and defend it.&amp;quot;'' [http://www.pbs.org/civilwar/war/lincoln_address1.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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However, communications between the fort and Charleston broke down, and General P.G.T. Beauregard, believing Fort Sumter had a supply ship on the way, ordered the fort shelled on April 14, 1865.  The Civil War had begun.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil War==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mary Todd Lincoln.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Mary Todd Lincoln]]&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln’s goal was to preserve the Union; he would have been happy to preserve the peace as well, but he was willing to engage in a war to preserve it as well, a war he thought would be short.  After Fort Sumter he proclaimed a blockade of Southern ports and called for thousands of volunteers to enlist for ninety days.  He also believed that an overland war was inevitable, and he ordered forces on a march on the Virginia front, resulting in the first great defeat for the Union at Bull Run (July 21, 1861).  Shortly afterward, Lincoln issued a set of memorandums for the military, of which his basic thought was that armies in the field must advance concurrently and on several fronts.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Finding himself as the leader of a country now at war, Lincoln used a description of himself in which he let events control him, and then react to the problem.  It was something of himself that was used with success as a politician.  In this sense he was being practical, ready to employ an action or decision which would help the cause, and ready to abandon it and use another if the first failed.  But his first insight with which he held fast to, that of taking the fight to the enemy’s army, failed many times when successive generals tried to take the fight to the enemy’s capitol and failed, or failed in following up on a rare victory.  He had George McClellan on the Peninsula, but was beaten back during the Seven Days battles.  His replacement, John Pope, lost in a repeat of Bull Run.  McClellan was back again, winning a victory at Antietam, but failed to follow through in capturing the enemy’s army afterwards.  Then Ambrose Burnside, followed by Joseph Hooker, led the Army of the Potomac to massive defeats at Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville, respectively.  Then George Gordon Meade was put in, just in time for the Battle of Gettysburg; Meade would not finish off the enemy either.  Robert E. Lee, the commander of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia, commented on the frequent changes in generals.  “I’m afraid they’re going to find a general I cannot understand.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Having seen what he done at Donelson, Shiloh, Vicksburg, and Chattanooga, Lincoln found the fighting general he was looking for in Ulysses S. Grant.  In March 1864 he promoted Grant to lieutenant general and gave him command of all Federal armies.  Grant would have his headquarters in the field with Meade’s Army of the Potomac, and his subordinates William T. Sherman, Philip Sheridan, and George H. Thomas would each lead an army to take the fight to the enemy.  Halleck would be given a new title, chief of staff, and remain in Washington as the presidential liaison.  Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton would be responsible for the procurement of men and supplies.  By this reorganization Lincoln created the structure of the high command in which all the energies of and resources of the country were mobilized into a grand strategy for the completion of the war.  It was all the more remarkable as prior to 1861, he had no knowledge of military theory or affairs; he threw himself into studying the subject that by 1864, he was considered to be something of a military genius.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Ann Rutledge played a part in stories as being the first woman Lincoln may have fallen in love with.  However, evidence is scant, and what surviving letters and documents there are indicate they were close friends.  She died in 1835 at the age of 22, and the entire community grieved with Lincoln.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln and tad.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The irrepressible Tad Lincoln, striking a typical pose next to his father, who could barely restrain a smile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The one true love of Lincoln’s life was a well-educated woman with a quick wit, [[Mary Todd]], from a well-to-do family in Springfield.  Lincoln endured a courtship that lasted two years (and was broken once), before they were married on November 4, 1842.  Together they would have four boys: Robert Todd, Edward Baker (“Eddie”, who died at age 4), William Wallace (“Willie”), and Thomas (“Tad”).  Willie and Tad were the first children in the White House, and the halls and gardens were filled with childish romps, especially from the rambunctious, uncontrollable Tad, who once took a group of office seekers there to see the president on a trip through a confusing maze of hanging laundry; drove a herd of goats inside; got into the attic and rang the servants’ bells for hours; and succeeded in getting his doll executed for sleeping on watch.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Lincolns also had their share of quarrels, and stories passed through the years tended to exaggerate them, but existing letters between the two indicate they were like any other married couple.  They were devoted to each other’s company, and when apart they missed each other.  &amp;quot;I have fallen in love with her,&amp;quot; Lincoln would write to a friend about Mary, &amp;quot;and have never fallen out.&amp;quot;  Mary did have fits of temper and a sense of insecurity; while in the White House she had spells of simple jealousy which she staged in front of guests; sometimes the scene would be quite embarrassing.  She also rang up large bills for her personal wardrobe and redecorating the White House; Lincoln, when he found out one such bill which totaled near $20,000 and coupled with a request for Congress to appropriate the money needed to pay for it, displayed a rare occurrence of pure anger:&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;It would stink in the nostrils of the American people to have it said the President of the United States had approved a bill overrunning an appropriation of $20,000 for flub dubs, for this damned old house, when the soldiers cannot have blankets!&amp;quot;'' [http://www.historyswomen.com/1stWomen/marytoddlincoln.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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The early deaths of Eddie in 1850 and Willie in 1863 may have played a role in Mary’s eccentricity.  Lincoln did what he could to support her, even pointing out the presence of a nearby building which housed a sanitarium, hinting that Mary could be placed there if she didn't control herself over Willie's death.&lt;br /&gt;
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==On slavery==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1841, Lincoln had a flatboat trip down the Mississippi, and he saw sitting on board another boat a group of slaves chained together.  He described the sight in a letter to Joshua Speed in 1855: “You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln hated slavery.  “I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself,” he declared. “I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world; enables the enemies of free institutions with plausibility to taunt us as hypocrites.” [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al05.htm] In 1855, writing to his friend Joshua Speed, he recalled a steamboat trip the two had taken on the Ohio River14 years earlier. “You may remember, as I well do,” he said, “that from Louisville [Kentucky] to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border.” [http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al03.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln often penned fragments on slavery.  He would begin it by starting a hypothetical vested interest in slavery, and end it with the only logical conclusion, that is was a great moral wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''If A. can prove, however conclusively, that he may, of right, enslave B.—why may not B. snatch the same argument, and prove equally, that he may enslave A?''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''You say A. is white, and B. is black. It is color, then; the lighter, having the right to enslave the darker? Take care. By this rule, you are to be slave to the first man you meet, with a fairer skin than your own.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:''You do not mean color exactly? You mean the whites are intellectually the superiors of the blacks, and, therefore have the right to enslave them? Take care again. By this rule, you are to be slave to the first man you meet, with an intellect superior to your own.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But, say you, it is a question of interest; and, if you can make it your interest; you have the right to enslave another. Very well. And if he can make it his interest, he has the right to enslave you.'' (Fragment on Slavery, April, 1854)&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was elected on a platform which pledged no interference with slavery where it had already existed, and he was hesitant to adopt an abolitionist policy.  He was concerned about the reaction of the border states should such a policy be enacted.  He was concerned about four million newly-freed blacks being incorporated into the country’s social, economic, and political life.  Some individuals, such as General John C. Freemont, made it a point to proclaim freedom in districts which they had conquered; Lincoln revoked those proclamations.  In a letter to Horace Greely, Lincoln plainly stated&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was willing to play a major part in removing slavery altogether during the war.  He first proposed an idea in which slaves were to be freed gradually by the actions of the states, with the federal government sharing the cost of compensation.  None of the border states were willing to implement it, and no prominent African-American leader was willing to see newly-freed blacks sent to Africa, as part of the idea called for.&lt;br /&gt;
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But with the victory at Antietam in September 1862, Lincoln brought out an idea which he read before his cabinet, that slaves held in the Confederate States were declared to be free.  He would declare it formally with his Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863.  Although it did not include those areas under Union control, and officially it was a war measure, it had a great deal of significance as a symbol, and European countries who had toyed with the idea of recognizing the Confederacy abandoned it and supported the Union.&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln also felt that the freed slaves would be put back in chains at war's end, as the Proclamation itself was not constitutional.  But Lincoln was prepared for something else: he drafted the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which stated slavery was illegal except for crimes committed.  He also urged the Republican Party to add the proposed amendment as a plank to the 1864 presidential campaign, stating slavery was the cause of the war, and that the Proclamation had aimed “a death blow at this gigantic evil;” only by a constitutional amendment could slavery be rendered extinct.  After the election, Lincoln did not wait for the new Congress.  He got the two-thirds needed for ratification before the year was over, and rejoiced when his state of Illinois led the way.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free - honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just - a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.&amp;quot;'' Annual Message to Congress, December 1, 1862.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religion==&lt;br /&gt;
Abraham Lincoln, like many other people of his day, believed, at least initially, that &amp;quot;Religion is a private affair between a man and his God.&amp;quot;  Doubts about Lincoln's faith have arisen mainly because he never officially joined a church, which his political opponents used sometimes to accuse him.  He had a love of the Bible and memorized parts of the Bible, and used biblical allusions later on in political speech.  Lincoln said once that:&lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;quot;I doubt the possibility or propriety of settling the religion of Jesus Christ in the models of man-made creeds and dogmas.  I cannot without mental reservations assent to long and complicated creeds and catechisms.&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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He also said on another occasion:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;That I am not a member of any Christian church is true, but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures, and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general or of any denomination of Christians in particular.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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He also made statements that suggest a strong faith, such as when his father was ill:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Tell father to remember to call upon and confide in our great, and good, and merciful Maker who will not turn away from him in any extremity.  He notes the fall of a sparrow and numbers the hairs of our heads; and he will not forget the dying man who puts his trust in him.  If it is to be his lot to go now, he will soon have a joyous meeting with many loved ones gone before; and where the rest of us, through the help of God, hope ere long to join them.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of Lincoln's views on faith as a youth, it seemed to grow as President.  Lincoln penciled in &amp;quot;under God&amp;quot; after &amp;quot;one nation&amp;quot; for his [[Gettysburg Address]] delivered on November 19, 1863.  The phrase &amp;quot;under God&amp;quot; was not in the early drafts.  Mrs. Lincoln recalled her husband's last words just prior to his assassination in Ford's Theater: &amp;quot;He said he wanted to visit the Holy Land and see those places hallowed by the footprints of the [[Savior]]. He was saying there was no city he so much desired to see as Jerusalem.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.amerisearch.net/index.php?date=2004-09-08&amp;amp;view=View&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1864, a close friend of Lincoln's, Joshua Speed, confided in Lincoln that he did not accept the Bible as true. Lincoln famously replied, &amp;quot;Take all this book upon reason that you can, and the balance on faith, and you will live and die a happier and better man&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Lincoln was shot at Ford's theater two clergy claimed that he had made a secret trip from Washington to be baptized.  Also a Roman Catholic Priest claimed that Lincoln received the sacrament of baptism in secret.  Neither of these claims have any proof in White House records or his personal diary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [[God and the Oval Office]], by John C. McCollister, W Publishing, 2005.  &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lincoln's conservatism==&lt;br /&gt;
In his [[Lincoln's Cooper Union Speech|Cooper Union Address]], Lincoln spoke of the sectionalism which was fracturing the country as a result of slavery; the Republican Party was new in 1859, and a serious threat to slavery's existence.  Lincoln and his party were called radical and destructive, but he counted himself among the earliest defenders of conservative principles, which was in essence a defense of time-honored, traditional values. Lincoln said that out of the 39 framers of the Constitution, 23 of the 39 voted on whether to prevent the spread of slavery, and that 21 of the 23 voted in favor of doing so. Lincoln therefore said that it was the pro-slavery South that was radically breaking with the tradition begun by those that created the Constitution. As Lincoln said:&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But you say you are conservative - eminently conservative - while we are revolutionary, destructive, or something of the sort. What is conservatism? Is it not adherence to the old and tried, against the new and untried? We stick to, contend for, the identical old policy on the point in controversy which was adopted by &amp;quot;our fathers who framed the Government under which we live;&amp;quot; while you with one accord reject, and scout, and spit upon that old policy, and insist upon substituting something new. True, you disagree among yourselves as to what that substitute shall be. You are divided on new propositions and plans, but you are unanimous in rejecting and denouncing the old policy of the fathers. Some of you are for reviving the foreign slave trade; some for a Congressional Slave-Code for the Territories; some for Congress forbidding the Territories to prohibit Slavery within their limits; some for maintaining Slavery in the Territories through the judiciary; some for the &amp;quot;gur-reat pur-rinciple&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;if one man would enslave another, no third man should object,&amp;quot; fantastically called &amp;quot;Popular Sovereignty;&amp;quot; but never a man among you is in favor of federal prohibition of slavery in federal territories, according to the practice of &amp;quot;our fathers who framed the Government under which we live.''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Lincoln's style of writing==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Lincoln seated.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Lincoln in November, 1863, about to leave for Pennsylvania.  The reason for his confident look may have been within the envelope lying on the table, believed to contain his draft of the Gettysburg Address]]&lt;br /&gt;
A White House visitor, Orville Browning, told Lincoln's personal secretary John Nicolay one day that he had spoke to Lincoln sometime in 1861 on the subject of slavery; that if the right thing about slavery wasn't done, God just couldn't be on the side of the Union. Browning remembered Lincoln's reply: &amp;quot;What if the Almighty takes a different view of slavery than we do?&amp;quot;, and right then and there Browning realized that Lincoln had thought very deep on the subject, much deeper than Browning did. [http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/books/wilson.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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Lincoln was known to think long and deep on various topics, and often he would take notes, write them on little scraps of paper, and stuff them into his tall stovepipe hat for later use.  When it was time for use, such as his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech, he pulled them out, laid them on a table, and would commence to writing.  He would sift through the subject, adding this, removing that, and sometimes he would stand in his empty room and deliver it out loud to an imaginary audience, testing the effects of what he spoke, and altering it as needed.  According to author Garry Wills, Lincoln brought to bear the rhetorical tone of the Greek Revival and Transcendental movements, in which spoken oratory was practiced in government and on the stage.  The leading speakers of this time, and whom Lincoln looked upon, were Danial Webster and Henry Clay, both of the Senate, and Edward Everett, a speaker much in demand.&lt;br /&gt;
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The training he had given himself also enabled him to write a simple letter or a speech on the spot.  Words would flow clear when Lincoln wrote in his later years, and he didn't have to do twice one of his finest personal letters, one of consolation to Mrs. Bixby of Boston, who had lost five sons in the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Executive Mansion,''&lt;br /&gt;
:''Washington, Nov. 21, 1864.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle.''&lt;br /&gt;
:''I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save.''&lt;br /&gt;
:''I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.''&lt;br /&gt;
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:''A. Lincoln''&lt;br /&gt;
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What many consider his masterpiece is the [[Gettysburg Address]].  Here Lincoln, going through perhaps a dozen writes and re-writes of what he had thought on the subject, entirely changed the meaning of the war itself in a mere 272 words, and in so doing, according to Wills, remaking America.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Politics in war==&lt;br /&gt;
That there had to be a certain degree of support to win the war was a given, and Lincoln strove to have unity for that effort in the North.  Politics was required, and Lincoln had a special knack for appealing to his fellows and talking to them at their own level and language.  He would smooth over lingering differences, and held the loyalty of those who were antagonistic to one another.  &lt;br /&gt;
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But the Democrats remained strong, and frequently clashed.  Its member included both war and peace Democrats; the peace side was called “Copperheads”, after the snake which strikes without warning while hidden.  Lincoln tried conciliating with both, but with the latter he had to resort to arrest at times, most famously to an Ohio Congressman, Clement L. Valandigham, who was arrested after he had repeatedly exhorted soldiers to desert.  He justified his actions on the grounds that the suspension of ''habeas corpus'' was necessary only in times of rebellion, insurrection, or when the public safety may require it, as stated in the Constitution; certainly the Civil War had met those specific conditions.  Many would dissent, and openly criticize Lincoln for arbitrarily violating the Constitution that he had sworn to preserve.  In response to the criticism in general, and the case of Valandigham in particular, Lincoln wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Must I shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert? This is none the less injurious when effected by getting a father, or brother, or friend, into a public meeting, and there working upon his feeling, till he is persuaded to write the soldier boy, that he is fighting in a bad cause, for a wicked administration of a contemptable government, too weak to arrest and punish him if he shall desert. I think that in such a case, to silence the agitator, and save the boy, is not only constitutional, but, withal, a great mercy.&amp;quot;'' [http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;type=boolean;rgn=div1;q1=soldier;op2=and;q2=deserts;op3=and;q3=agitator;singlegenre=All;view=text;subview=detail;sort=occur;idno=lincoln6;node=lincoln6%3A569]&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln faced reelection against Democrat George McClellan in 1864, who promised a restoration of the Union, but waffled on many of its points, even abandoning the Democratic platform of armistice and peaceful separation.  Lincoln was able to beat him in the election, assisted by the timely victories of Sheridan in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, and Sherman in Georgia.  Overtures of peace from Confederates were not wholly rejected.  On February 3, 1865, Lincoln met with Confederate commissioners, among them Vice President Alexander Stephens, on a steamship in Hampton Roads, Virginia.  There would be peace, he insisted, if the South would quit the war, abandon slavery, and accept re-unification, and once these conditions were met he would gracious with pardons.  But his terms satisfied neither the Confederacy nor the Radical Republicans in Congress.&lt;br /&gt;
His postwar policy was one of compassion.  As he explained to his top leaders on board a riverboat, the City Queen, he wanted peace above all else.  His Second Inaugural Address expressed his point of healing the wounds caused by the war.&lt;br /&gt;
:''With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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When asked specifically, he related the following, according to General Sherman, one of those present:&lt;br /&gt;
:''Mr. Lincoln was full and frank in his conversation, assuring me that in his mind he was all ready for the civil reorganization of affairs at the South as soon as the war was over; and he distinctly authorized me to assure Governor Vance and the people of North Carolina that, as soon as the rebel armies laid down their arms, and resumed their civil pursuits, they would at once be guaranteed all their rights as citizens of a common country; and that to avoid anarchy the State governments then in existence, with their civil functionaries, would be recognized by him as the government de facto till Congress could provide others.'' &lt;br /&gt;
:''I know, when I left him, that I was more than ever impressed by his kindly nature, his deep and earnest sympathy with the afflictions of the whole people, resulting from the war, and by the march of hostile armies through the South; and that his earnest desire seemed to be to end the war speedily, without more bloodshed or devastation, and to restore all the men of both sections to their homes. In the language of his second inaugural address, he seemed to have &amp;quot;charity for all, malice toward none,&amp;quot; and, above all, an absolute faith in the courage, manliness, and integrity of the armies in the field.'' [http://www.sonshi.com/sherman24.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Final curtain==&lt;br /&gt;
Lincoln received the news of Lee’s surrender at Appomattox, Virginia, on April 9, and he was called out to the balcony of the White House that night by a large crowd gathered in celebration.  When asked to make a speech, Lincoln noticed a band among them, and made an unusual request.&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;I have always thought ‘Dixie’ one of the best tunes I have ever heard. Our adversaries over the way attempted to appropriate it, but I insisted that we fairly captured it. I presented it to the Attorney General, and he gave it as his legal opinion that it is our lawful prize. I now request the band to favor me with its performance.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
He entered Richmond the following day, to the joyous delight of free blacks, who welcomed the arrival of &amp;quot;Father Abraham&amp;quot; as they called him, and he paid a visit to the Confederate White House, and sat at the desk of Jefferson Davis.  The only thing he asked for was a glass of water.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just four days later on April 14 he attended a play at Ford's Theater.  It was called ''Our American Cousin'', with well-known stage actress Laura Keane and comedian Harry Hawke in the title role.  Unseen to the audience was another actor making his way quietly up the stairs to the president's private box, [[John Wilkes Booth]], a Southern sympathizer who had hatched a conspiracy with a few others to kill the president and other leading officials.  Booth entered the box, shot Lincoln in the head, stabbed a guest, and dropped to the stage, escaping behind the curtains.  Taken across the street to a boarding house, the mortally-wounded Lincoln was laid across a small bed in humble surroundings, similar it seemed, to where he was born.  He died at sunrise a few hours later.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Now he belongs to the ages&amp;quot; Edwin Stanton was heard to say.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
*McCollister, John C. ''God and the Oval Office'', W Publishing Group, Nashville, Tennessee(2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Sandburg, Carl. ''Abraham Lincoln'', Harcourt, Brace and Company, New York (1954)&lt;br /&gt;
*Walsh, John E. ''Moonlight'', St. Martin's Press, New York (2000)&lt;br /&gt;
*Goodwin, Doris Kearns. ''Team of Rivals: the Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln'', Simon and Schuster, New York (2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Hanchett, William. ''The Lincoln Murder Conspiracies'', University of Illinois (1983)&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald, David Herbert. ''Lincoln'', Jonathan Cafe (Random House), London (1995)&lt;br /&gt;
*Wills, Gary. ''Lincoln at Gettysburg: the Words that Remade America'', Simon and Schuster, New York (1992)&lt;br /&gt;
*White, Ronald C. Jr. ''The Eloquent President: A [[portraits|Portrait]] of Lincoln Through His Words'', Random House, New York (2005)&lt;br /&gt;
*Carwardine, Richard. ''Lincoln: A Life of Purpose and Power'', Alfred A. Knopf, New York (2003)&lt;br /&gt;
*Time-Life Books ''The Civil War'', vol. 1 (''Brother Against Brother''), Time Inc, New York (1983)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/ Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln.html Abraham Lincoln Online]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.abrahamlincolnarchive.com/Home.aspx Lincoln Archive of original newspaper articles]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/ History Place: Lincoln timeline]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/liho/index.htm Lincoln's Home National Historic Site]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/al16.html White House site; short bio on Lincoln]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.mrlincolnandfriends.org/inside.asp?pageID=112&amp;amp;subjectID=1 Mr. Lincoln and Friends]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al02.htm Declaration against slavery, Illinois State Legislature, March 3, 1837]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al03.htm Lincoln's letter to Joshua Speed, August 24, 1855]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nps.gov/archive/liho/slavery/al05.htm Speech in Peoria, Illinois, October 16, 1854]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=lincoln;cc=lincoln;q1=erastus;q2=corning;op2=and;op3=and;rgn=works;idno=ACK7441.0001.001;didno=ACK7441.0001.001;view=image;seq=00000227 Letter to Erastus Corning and Others, June 13, 1863, in which Lincoln explains his suspention of ''habeas corpus'']&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sonshi.com/sherman.html Memoirs of William T. Sherman ]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DcLincMor.JPG|right|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Democracy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John F. Kennedy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Andrew Jackson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:People who were Educated at Home]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Tiger</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Tiger.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Tiger in zoo habitat]]&lt;br /&gt;
The '''Tiger''' is a large, striped [[feline]], a member of the Panthera [[Genus]], and largest of the Big Cats found in the wild. Formerly found across much of [[Asia]], much of its habitat is restricted in its range. Several species of tiger are endangered including the Siberian and South China tigers. The Javan, Balinese and Caspian varieties of tiger are now [[extinction|extinct]]. The biggest habitat is [[Malaysia]], where plenty of wild tigers still roam.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Habits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Tigers are solitary [[predator]]s, capable of easily killing prey as large as a [[buffalo]], and frequently killing domestic livestock, a common reason they were hunted to near extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
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They are fond of swimming. Though not as arboreal as the [[leopard]], they can climb trees. They can jump almost their entire body length and some can run as fast as 40 miles per hour.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Man-eating tigers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been numerous historical cases of man-eating tigers; sometimes claiming hundreds of victims. However, the animals involved were often found to have been injured, frequently by [[porcupine]]s or [[gun]]shot wounds, and healthy tigers do not generally eat people.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Famous tigers in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Tigger - in [[Winnie the Pooh]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Shere Khan - in [[the Jungle Book]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Hobbes - in the comic [[Calvin and Hobbes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Nb_zl_felines}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dangerous Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Asia]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:St0dad&amp;diff=555967</id>
		<title>User talk:St0dad</title>
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&lt;div&gt;I agree with you.  The grammar of many articles, and the use of categories, are poor reflections of high ideals.[[User:Canuck|Canuck]] 08:51, 8 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Be sure to have a look at [[Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style]], too [[User:Canuck|Canuck]] 08:59, 8 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That's why I'm here as well.  Grammar and spelling are despicable.  I don't pay so much attention to the ideology, just that it comes across more intelligible.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:30, 12 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Good! I'm also trying to add more to the articles that aren't constantly debated. If you look on some pages like [[Barack Obama]] you'll see that it's HUGE, but then you go to the [[Tiger]] article and it's near empty..-- [[User:St0dad|St0dad]] 21:34, 12 November 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Tiger</title>
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		<updated>2008-11-13T02:18:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;St0dad: Adding some info. Will add more when I find some more detailed sources. :D&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Tiger.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Tiger]]&lt;br /&gt;
The '''Tiger''' is a large, striped [[feline]], a member of the Panthera [[Genus]], and largest of the Big Cats found in the wild. Formerly found across much of [[Asia]], much of its habitat is restricted in its range. Several species of tiger are endangered including the Siberian and South China tigers. The Javan, Balinese and Caspian varieties of tiger are now [[extinction|extinct]]. The biggest habitat is [[Malaysia]], where plenty of wild tigers still roam.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Habits ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tigers are solitary [[predator]]s, capable of easily killing prey as large as a [[buffalo]], and frequently killing domestic livestock, a common reason they were hunted to near extinction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
They are fond of swimming. Though not as arboreal as the [[leopard]], they can climb trees. They can jump almost their entire body length and some can run as fast as 40 miles per hour.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Man-eating tigers ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There have been numerous historical cases of man-eating tigers; sometimes claiming hundreds of victims. However, the animals involved were often found to have been injured, frequently by [[porcupine]]s or [[gun]]shot wounds, and healthy tigers do not generally eat people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Famous tigers in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Tigger - in [[Winnie the Pooh]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Shere Khan - in [[the Jungle Book]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Hobbes - in the comic [[Calvin and Hobbes]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Nb_zl_felines}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dangerous Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Asia]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Religulous&amp;diff=554954</id>
		<title>Talk:Religulous</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Is Bill Maher really outspokenly socialist? I've never heard him talk about his socialism, but he's obviously pretty liberal. Outspokenly liberal, perhaps? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:51, 22 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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-Last time I checked, he was a libertarian. Not the same thing as a socialist, by a long shot. Bill Maher is outspoken in a lot of subjects. It doesn't make him a socialist. [[User:CodyH|CodyH]] 22:49, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:He claims to be a libertarian, which is what got me to watch his show a few times. However, he's pretty anti-corpratist and economically liberal. A libertarian who's economically liberal is just a liberal. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:21, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well then we should remain consistent because Bill Maher is called a socialist on [[Bill Maher|his own article]]. Last I checked however, someone who favors gonverment interference in economic issues, to whatever degree, is a socialist. --[[User:Stirlatez|Stirlatez]] 18:23, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, his article does say that... it probably needs changed as well. However, socialism is more than simply &amp;quot;favoring government interference in economic issues.&amp;quot; [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:44, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==  That picture! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It's really...erm...bad. Does anyone have a better photo of him? --[[User:St0dad|St0dad]] 21:43, 11 November 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Politically_correct&amp;diff=554953</id>
		<title>Politically correct</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Politically correct language''', or ''political correctness'', consists of linguistic or ideologies restrictions imposed by [[liberals]]. Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation, said, &amp;quot;The ideology usually known as ‘Political Correctness,’ which is really the cultural Marxism of the infamous Frankfurt School, is using every type of cultural institution in our country to achieve its purpose, which is the destruction of traditional Western culture and the Christian religion.&amp;quot; [http://www.familyresearchinst.org/Default.aspx?tabid=145]&lt;br /&gt;
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The modern politically correct movement began at the [[University of Wisconsin-Madison]], one of the most [[liberal]] institutions in the [[United States]] and is often viewed as a liberalist degrading of freedom of speech. George Orwell's ''Nineteen Eighty-Four'' famously incorporated the notion of limiting thought through language (see [[Newspeak]]).  Words or actions that violate '''political correctness''' are called [[politically incorrect]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[Liberal]]s impose '''political correctness''' to prevent recognition of differences between men and women, religions, belief systems, sexual inclination and nationalities.  In the 1960s, [[feminists]] began to demand that the neutral pronouns ''he'', ''him'' and ''his'' be replaced with expressions like &amp;quot;he or she&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;him or her&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;them&amp;quot;, etc. This was part of their campaign to redefine the social roles traditionally associated with masculinity and femininity.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Political correctness''' or '''P.C.''' also means the alteration of ones choice of words in order to avoid either offending a group of people or reinforcing a stereotype considered to be disadvantageous to the group.  More specifically, groups which (or whose putative &amp;quot;leaders&amp;quot; or other activists) claim some status as systemically oppressed or discriminated against will periodically attempt to change the terms by which they are referred to and demand that society as a whole change its usage of words as well. Although traditionally associated with the liberals and the political left, Political Correctness has been superficially challenged by libertarian comedian [[Bill Maher]], by left wing comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and by some noted liberals such as Nat Hentoff, Richard Lamm, and the late Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Examples==&lt;br /&gt;
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An example of political correctness is the changing terminology used to described handicapped people.  In the past the term &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was perfectly acceptable and not considered offensive.  At some point, somebody decided &amp;quot;crippled&amp;quot; was degrading and the preferred term changed to &amp;quot;handicapped&amp;quot;.  This, too, was eventually deemed offensive and &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; became the preferred term.  Today, &amp;quot;disabled&amp;quot; is now considered degrading and &amp;quot;differently abled&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;physically challenged&amp;quot; are now the politically correct terms.  The same can be said for the changing uses of terms for Black Americans:  &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot;, once perfectly acceptable terms, were declared degrading and offensive by some activists during the 1970s and &amp;quot;Afro-American&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Black&amp;quot; came into use, which in turn gave way to &amp;quot;[[African Americans|African-American]]&amp;quot;, and in broader usage, &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The distinction for example between &amp;quot;colored people&amp;quot; (1950s-60s usage) and &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; (today) is an important one which illustrates the basis of political correctness.&lt;br /&gt;
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The question of politically correct language has spilled over from the use of racially descriptive words and affected the use of traditional language.  In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington DC described a budget decision as &amp;quot;niggardly&amp;quot; (a word meaning &amp;quot;stingy,&amp;quot; unrelated to the racial slur).  The aide immediately came under criticism and was forced to resigned even though he had not said anything racially charged, though his name was cleared within a matter of days and was offered to return to his previous position. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/williams/williams020499.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As well as language, political correctness discourages the use of racial or stereotypes in fiction out of concern that these stereotypes may become self-perpetuating. For example, frequently seeing the image black gang-members decked out in gold chains, carrying guns and listening to rap may pressure young black people into seeing this lifestyle as the most 'acceptable' choice for their racial group. The common image of women-only occupations (nurses, secretaries, care workers, etc) and of men-only occupations (IT workers, military, machinery operators, etc) can discourage individuals of either gender from considering those occupations traditionally belonging to the other. Additionally films like &amp;quot;The Siege&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;True Lies&amp;quot; have been criticized by pro-Islamic groups as having Muslims portrayed as terrorists, despite the fact that most current terrorists are in fact Muslims.  Thus political correctness becomes the consideration of all public statements and media for their unintentional social impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Political correctness can even affect terminology that's viewed by secularists as too &amp;quot;pro-religion&amp;quot; or an alleged &amp;quot;violation of the separation of church and state&amp;quot; in the United States. The best example of this is the active promotion of the use of C.E. and B.C.E. as the abbreviations used after dates (instead of the commonly and traditionally used A.D. and B.C.).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Differing Opinions==&lt;br /&gt;
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Demands for politically correct language usage are rooted in the notion widely promoted among left-wing academics and sociologists that Western culture promotes systemic oppression against some groups by marginalizing them and excluding them from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;; the groups thus supposedly systemically marginalized are referred to as &amp;quot;the Other&amp;quot; by these left-wing academics.{{fact}}  The implication is that these groups are systemically excluded from the mainstream.  &amp;quot;Colored people&amp;quot; is therefore deemed offensive because the order of words puts &amp;quot;colored&amp;quot; first, emphasizing their difference from the mainstream, while &amp;quot;people of color&amp;quot; is acceptable because putting the term &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; first emphasizes that they are people and thus does not emphasize their difference from the &amp;quot;norm&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some people allege that instead of encouraging supposedly marginalized groups to integrate with and assimilate into the mainstream of Western culture, political correctness ironically encourages them to emphasize and indeed to wallow in their marginalization from society, and to make a public display of such.  This is known as [[identity politics]].  According to this view, gays and lesbians are therefore encouraged to label themselves as &amp;quot;queer&amp;quot; and make public displays of &amp;quot;queerness&amp;quot; calculated to disturb the sensibilities of mainstream people, rather than integrate into the mainstream themselves;{{fact}} Black Americans are encouraged to adopt [[Afrocentrism]] and convert to [[Islam]] or to conform to stereotypical black behavior, etc.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Language Police==&lt;br /&gt;
Conservative scholar [[Robert Bork]] has charged that the educational system is a battleground where the future of America is being undermined and ill-served. He has counseled against the troubles which will ensue as a result of anti-religious policies in the schools, permissive attitudes toward [[homosexuality]] and [[abortion]], as well as welfare policies that have destroyed families since [[Lyndon B. Johnson]]'s War on Poverty. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline. by Robert Bork published by Harper Collins (c) 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In her book &amp;quot;[[The Language Police]]&amp;quot;, [[Diane Ravitch]] documents just how easy it is to get a word, phrase or idea banned from modern textbooks and references.  Textbook producers are beholden to small non-elected liberal educational boards in a few key states such as New York or California. Few citizens know anything about these boards or who holds the seats of power on these boards. It's not a difficult for an interest group to mobilize a campaign to bombard the educational board. Meanwhile, the public is not even aware that their words or values are under attack from this corrupt system, while many ''elected'' Conservatives have rallied against this polocy . &lt;br /&gt;
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Then, once a big state makes a textbook purchase, it's very difficult for a small state or any municipality to make any changes.  Thus, profound changes can be inserted into textbooks and reference books by putting pressure on a handful of educational administrators. The work of textbook selection committee's is done privately, to avoid politicizing textbooks, but the reverse has happened. It's easier to pressure a lawmaker who is not beholden to community standards, but instead is enamored with political correctness. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Language Police: How Pressure Groups Restrict What Children Learn by [[Diane Ravitch]] (c) 2003 published by Knopf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ravitch has documented &amp;quot;''bias guidelines''&amp;quot; for major publishers of texts and tests. These &amp;quot;guidelines&amp;quot; consist of advice to writers and editors about words and topics that must be avoided.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003695&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Totalitarianism and Political Correctness==&lt;br /&gt;
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The comprehensive and detailed control of all ideas, beliefs, and statements is one of the most problematic features of [[totalitarian]] regimes.[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3816(196002)22%3A1%3C68%3ATIAP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-W] &lt;br /&gt;
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Political correctness can trace its origins back to the world of 1920's Germany, where [[Communist]] academics sought to impose their [[Marxist]] views on students. It is now acceptable in many Universities to have courses on gender, [[homosexual]] and [[African American]] studies, which, in fact, encourage the mainstream public to become different to avoid criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.capc.co.uk The Campaign Against Political Correctness]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=8olE_futZogC&amp;amp;pg=PA378&amp;amp;lpg=PA378&amp;amp;dq=communist+%22socially+correct%22&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=DYD85Lsf1G&amp;amp;sig=pkoUxDOLFJZsme40QO13zakFZw4 The Chinese Have A Word For It]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=218 DiscoverTheNetworks.org - Political Correctness, Appeasement and Speech Codes in Academia]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Creation Museum</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:CMpix1.JPG|thumb|300px|The front of the Creation Museum while under construction in 2005.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The '''Creation Museum''' is a 60,000 square foot [[museum]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;creationmuseum&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14122311/ Museum Brings Creationism to Life], MSNBC, says &amp;quot;50,000 square-foot-museum&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; designed to promote a [[Young Earth Creationism|Young-Earth Creationist]] view of history with state of the art displays and presentations. It cost 27 million dollars to construct and is located in Petersburg, [[Kentucky]], just outside of [[Cincinnati]]; a location chosen due to having almost two thirds of the [[United States]] population within a 650-[[mile]] distance.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070520/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticsreligion_070520222942 Dinosaurs frolic with Adam and Eve at creationism museum]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It opened its doors to the public on May 28, 2007, exceeding expectations by receiving 4,000 visitors on the first day. Membership to the museum, which includes annual passes, now exceeds 10,260&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Answers update, volume 14, issue 8, August 2007, pg. 3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Creation Museum presents a &amp;quot;walk through history&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;creationmuseum&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creationmuseum.org Creation Museum]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with a basis on a straightforward reading of the [[Bible]], particularly the early chapters of [[Genesis]].&lt;br /&gt;
The exhibits are designed, for &amp;quot;[a] fully engaging, sensory experience,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;creationmuseum&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; to illustrate [[Earth]]'s history and origin from a [[Young Earth Creationist]] perspective. The enterprise is supported by [[Ken Ham]], founder of [[Answers in Genesis]].&lt;br /&gt;
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On its opening, the ''New York Times'' gave it a page one review which commented: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Whether you are willing to grant the premises of this museum almost becomes irrelevant as you are drawn into its mixture of spectacle and narrative. Its 60,000 square feet of exhibits are often stunningly designed by Patrick Marsh, who, like the entire museum staff, declares adherence to the ministry's views; he evidently also knows the lure of secular sensations, since he designed the &amp;quot;Jaws&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;King Kong&amp;quot; attractions at [[Universal Studios]] in [[Florida]].... The Creation Museum offers an alternate world that has its fascinations, even for a skeptic wary of the effect of so many unanswered assertions. He leaves feeling a bit like Adam emerging from Eden, all the world before him, freshly amazed at its strangeness and extravagant peculiarities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rothstein, Edward (2007) &amp;quot;Museum Review: Adam and Eve in the Land of the Dinosaurs,&amp;quot; ''The New York Times,'' May 24, 2007, p. 1; also [http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/arts/24crea.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ex=1180670400&amp;amp;en=5856f2432a6c1&amp;amp;oref=slogin online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Controversy==&lt;br /&gt;
There has been much controversy since the Kentucky-based Creation Museum was announced. Lawrence Krauss (a physicist and astronomer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.phys.cwru.edu/faculty/index.php?krauss Lawrence Krauss, Faculty Page]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) stated that the museum is both a &amp;quot;fraud&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;hypocritical&amp;quot; because it &amp;quot;...repeatedly misrepresents the process and results of [[science]] and distorts the scientific record. Yet in every case it takes advantage of the technical wizardry of science to get its point across, with a series of dazzling [[animatronic]] displays and explanations&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Kraus, L, 2007 quoted in &amp;quot;Museum of Misinformation&amp;quot;, New Scientist, May 26th 2007, p24&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Greg Neyman, of [[Answers In Creation]], expressed concern about non-[[Christian]] museum visitors.  &amp;quot;They will see the museum, and recognize its faulty science, and will be turned away from the church.  This will increase the already widening gap between the unchurched and the churched. ... [[Atheist]]ic people and organizations are increasingly attacking the [[church]], because they perceive that the findings of modern science cannot be reconciled with the [[Bible]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Answers in Creation - Creation Museum Media Mania, March 30, 2007[http://www.answersincreation.org/rebuttal/aig/daily/2007/20070330_creation_museum.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Ken Ham debated the issues raised against the Museum on The FOX News Channel’s TV program The O’Reilly Factor on 28th May.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/05/28/museum-news-oreilly Ken Ham on The O’Reilly Factor]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even prior to it's opening it was visited by comedian and known [[atheist]] [[Bill Maher]] who came with a film crew shooting a documentary on religion&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55209 Creation Museum's 1st visitor? Bill Maher] worldnetdaily.com April 16, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Creation Museums==&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Creation Evidence Museum]] in Glen Rose, [[Texas]], was established in 1984.  According to its web site, the museum presents &amp;quot;scientific evidence for creation and design by a personal Creator&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;makes a unique contribution, demonstrating that  man and dinosaur lived contemporaneously&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Creation Evidence Museum[http://www.creationevidence.org/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Dinosaur Adventure Land]] in Pensacola, Florida, a &amp;quot;theme park&amp;quot; consisting of a discovery center and museum, was established in 2001. Its founder, minister [[Kent Hovind]], said &amp;quot;There are a lot of creationists that are really smart and debate the intellectuals, but the kids are bored after five minutes. You're missing 98 percent of the population if you only go the intellectual route.&amp;quot; The site has no rides. Demonstrations include the Nerve-Wracking Ball, a bowling ball suspended from a rope. Visitors are challenged to stand at a specific location, while a park guide carefully launches the ball from another specific location, and demonstrate their &amp;quot;faith in God's laws&amp;quot;&amp;amp;mdash;in this case, that a swinging object will never come back higher than the point from which it took off&amp;amp;mdash;by standing without moving or flinching as the ball comes close to their face.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Goodenough, Abby (2004), &amp;quot;Darwin-Free Fun For Creationists&amp;quot;, ''The New York Times,'' May 1, 2004, p. 7&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*A much more modest creation museum, the [[Big Valley Creation Science Museum]], is scheduled to open on June 5, 2007&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bvcsm.com/ Big Valley Creation Science Museum], museum website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Big Valley, [[Canada]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKN2547663920070529 Canada's first museum of creation opens in Alberta], Reuters, May 29, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It includes displays on &amp;quot;[[Fossil]]s and the [[Great Flood|Flood]],&amp;quot; a set of [[England|English]] scrolls tracing the family of [[King Henry VI]] back to the [[Garden of Eden]], and illustrations of humans and dinosaurs coexisting.  Big Valley is a small [[village]] located about 270 miles north of [[Alberta]]. The region is an historically important dinosaur fossil collecting area, where the &amp;quot;great Canadian dinosaur rush&amp;quot; occurred in the early 1900s&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.travelforkids.com/Funtodo/Alberta/dinoasaurvalley.htm Dinosaur Valley], Travel for Kids website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, popular for [[school]] field trips and tourists interested in fossils; the area also includes the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology and Dinosaur Provincial Park.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[Institute for Creation Research]] in Santee, [[California]] (near San Diego) has a small &amp;quot;Museum of Creation and Earth History&amp;quot; which has been operating since 1975 with an upgrade around 1992.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[John Morris|Morris, John]], [http://www.icr.org/article/3345/] ''Acts &amp;amp; Facts'', June 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Henry Morris|Morris, Henry]], [http://www.icr.org/article/795/ ICR and The Word Of God] ''Back to Genesis'', December 1995.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Creation_museum A list of over twenty museums about Creation.]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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== Disgusted Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've voted Republican in every election since 1960, but I'm absolutely disgusted by this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the dignity of our party under Goldwater and Reagan? This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; page is just one long rant. &lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any real conservatives out there willing to present objective, factual criticism of Obama? God knows there are enough valid arguments to make. Why are we channeling Michael Savage rather than William Buckley? Currently this page makes me cry for my party.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like disgusted conservative is voting for BO. I happen to think it is an accurate account of a man that is dishonest. Where will you get the real picture about about if not here? Are you disgusted by Wikipedias article? How about the coverage on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, LATimes, WaPo, NYT, Google, The Guardian. Why not be mad and except that the majority of America is being fooled? Why not be mad at someone as disgusting as BO, actually has a real chance to take the Presidency and doesn't deserve it IN THE LEAST? Reagan is rolling over in his grave and so all the Founders.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting Republican again this year. I know you're mad about what's going on, but it shows throughout the page. An encyclopedia can't be written from an angry point of view. Let me be specific:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot; plus &amp;quot;Obama and Islam&amp;quot; are not valid main introductory sections. Start with his early life.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) His birth certificate gets its own section but his healthcare and tax plans don't? Focus on what's really important.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section is just a list of criticisms and belongs under a &amp;quot;Criticism&amp;quot; section. Categorize corectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Off-topic side-swipes: &amp;quot;He became a member of the Harvard Law Review, which uses racial quotas, in 1989&amp;quot;. Why is &amp;quot;which uses racial quotas&amp;quot; in there? If it was a reason that he was chosen, say that. If it wasn't leave it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Unsubstantiated claims: &amp;quot;Obama's campaign has been financed largely by leftist donors opposed to the war and to the American military in general.&amp;quot; Citation definitely needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have several good sections in here: &amp;quot;Senate career&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Foreign policy experience&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Published criticism&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Religious affiliations&amp;quot;. These are high-quality and reflect well on Conservapedia. The others do not.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the reply from hsmom below as the kind of constructive, factual accuracy this page needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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::This sounds like you're standard liberal bellyaching.  The fact is that no real conservative Christian can vote for this man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::??!?! Trying to hold this article to some kind of standard is bellyaching? Would you like to address any of my points?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Your points is liberal talking points.  The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama wants to talk with Iran without predeterminations, flip flops, and is close friends to an unrepentive TERRORIST.  What more can you know?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to shift the focus on an ''encyclopedia page'' about a presidential candidate from hypothetical statements (his possible Islamic faith) and trivial matters (his birth certificate), to his actual stance on the issues is liberal bellyaching? If anything, we should be casting aside these trivial circumstances as beneath us and take the time to dissect each of his stances on the actual issues. That's what a real, dignified Conservative would do. Relying on ridiculous tactics such as these is asinine and cowardly. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 16:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Disgusted Conservative, sadly you are only wasting your time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does it say he MAY be the first Muslim President (a horrible, false claim) and he MAY use the Koran to be sworn in&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama's pastor of twenty-years, Rev. Wright, was originally a member with the Nation of Islam (likely always has been, see [[taqiyya]])''  Let's be careful not to confuse the Nation of Islam with the traditional Muslim faith - they are two quite different things. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:10, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What differences do you find so compelling?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:15, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't know that I'd use the word &amp;quot;compelling&amp;quot;; I don't know a whole lot about either faith.  I do know that they're quite different.  The Nation of Islam was started in Detroit in the 1930's as something of a black empowerment/separatist movement - it's a very race-based group, from what I understand, and (in what I would consider a cult-like way) based largely on the teachings of two or three men, who are considered more-or-less prophets.  It's been portrayed in the media as very racist and anti-Semitic, though I don't know enough about it to know how accurate that is.  It's a uniquely American faith.  Traditional Islam is quite a different thing - it's been around for thousands of years.  Malcolm X, for example, became a member of NOI in prison, then, due to disillusionment brought on by NOI leader/prophet Elijah Mohamed's adultery, converted to traditional Islam.  I have assumed that when you say that you believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, you are referring to traditional Islam, right? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.  Are you saying that NOI adherents do not pray and submit to Allah?  I'm sure they do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:52, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::''Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.''  No, I wouldn't put it that way.  I wouldn't consider NOI to be Islam.  As I understand it, I think they are two fundamentally different faiths, though NOI has some trappings borrowed from traditional Islam, as well as some borrowed from Christianity.  NOI believes, among other things, &amp;quot;that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited &amp;quot;Messiah&amp;quot; of the Christians and the &amp;quot;Mahdi&amp;quot; of the Muslims.&amp;quot;[http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm]  As I understand it, when NOI members pray to Allah, they mean (at least in part) W. Fard Muhammad (the founder of NOI).  Wheras of course traditional Muslims don't include anything about W. Fard Muhammad in their beliefs, nor do they recognize NOI as a Muslim denomination.  (Christians don't believe W. Fard Muhammad is the Messiah either, obviously.)  NOI is a uniquely American black separatist movement.  I believe it's quite a different faith from traditional Islam.  Maybe I was wrong about assuming you think Barak Obama is a traditional Muslim?  Do you think Barak Obama is a member of the NOI?  That would lead to quite different concerns; as I understand it, the NOI wants, among other things, quite substantial reparations for slavery. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The Nation of Islam's relationship to Christianity is similar to the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.  They use the same texts (to some extent), and have practices that are shared with and developed out of the other - but such distortions take place that one is clearly no longer the other.  It's not even about &amp;quot;not being mainstream&amp;quot;, it's about that place and time when one religion truly ceases to be it's parent religion.  You would be fully inaccurate to call a christian merely a &amp;quot;Jesus loving Jew&amp;quot;.  Christianity became its own religion in the year 30 (give or take) when our Lord died and rose for us.  For the Nation of Islam, with the Prophet Elijah claiming to be the reincarnation of Mohammad, they cease to be merely &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; and become their own religion.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 11:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==57 Islamic states==&lt;br /&gt;
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I attempted to make this article better by noting, as several other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; could be a reference to Heinz ketchup or simple a misstatement (Obama had visited 47 states), as well as the fact that there were not 57 Islamic states when Obama attended an Indonesian school. It was reverted. Why? Is this an encyclopedia, or a liberal hate blog? [[User:Egen|Egen]] 10:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your edit was baseless, and probably politically motivated.  The entry is factual and will remain that way.  Obama has likely remained a Muslim long after attending grade school.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On the subject, I think someone should add the following line to your page: &amp;quot;The odds against Aschlafly's claim to be named 'Andrew Schlafly' being truthful are less than 1 billion to one, as fewer than 6 people in the world are named Andrew Schlafly.&amp;quot; Don't put malarkey like this on a serious encyclopedia page and defend it as being &amp;quot;factual&amp;quot;. I remind you of Conservapedia Commandments 1, 2, and 5. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 11:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In any case, I fail to see how it is &amp;quot;baseless&amp;quot; to note, as other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; cannot possibly be a reference to &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; and probably has a more benign origin. It does not to any good to assert that anyone who disagrees with you probably does so because they are &amp;quot;politically motivated&amp;quot; (read: liberal) when many conservatives have expressed disdain for this point. I doubt that the majority of Conservapedia editors would disagree with my edit. This encyclopedia is not a personal blog for you or for anyone else. Therefore, I am reinserting the edit. If anyone can provide proof that Obama was referring to the &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; which did not exist when he was growing up '''and''' provide proof that that is what he was referring to, I'll retract this. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Egen - I entirely agree with you. A lot of people here think this is a redstate comments thread rather than, as it says in the top left corner, &amp;quot;the trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot;. Snopes on this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the mention of the 57 states, since the article later refers to a source that says that it was probably a misstatement as he has in fact visited 47 states. &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;unsigned JohnFA&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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      Jpatt - Why should it? It's repeated later on in the article where it is also explained. This statement is redundant since it doesn't even have a source.&lt;br /&gt;
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I added the fact that there were not 57 states when he went to school in indonesia, if we are going to mention that he went to an islamic school we are implying that that is where he learned about the 57 states, this is impossible and that should be noted. People will reference conservapedia and if they reference that he visited the 57 islamic states or that he learned about there being 57 islamic states in islamic school they will look like fools.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:06, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Right now, the implication made about Obama's gaff and &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; indicates the United States.  If it's about Indonesia, then state Indonesia, as well as prove that Indonesia is divided into 57 states.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:12, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I double-checked the references provided, one of which has a video of Obama himself doing the gaff; it may have been a minor slip of the tounge or a minor mistake, but not once was there a reference to visiting Islamic states or countries.  He specified visiting 57 ''U.S. states''.  The article was changed to reflect that fact, and the speculation on Islamic states was removed.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I wanted to do that but I figured I would just get reverted. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:53, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'll let you take credit then for the fixing, or at least getting it started :)  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:57, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this site supposed to be unbaised?-[[User:Red4tribe|Red4tribe]] 16:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;born, allegedly, in Honolulu&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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there's no doubt he was ''born''. that should read &amp;quot;allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. [[User:JohnBarma|JohnBarma]] 13:30, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As the previous poster said, &amp;quot;(born, allegedly, in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;, implies that he may not have been born, which I think is not what is intended.  &amp;quot;Allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot; has the same problem.  Putting aside whether or not the &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; is silly (and frankly I think the factcheck.org folks debunked this one), if you want to convey the idea that he was born, but may have been born somewhere other than Hawaii, then it should read &amp;quot;(born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;.  Comma placement matters. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 20:58, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is my understanding from a recent article on Fox that the form presented lists him as &amp;quot;African&amp;quot;.  This was 1961.  The concept of African-American or any reference to African in racial makeup, while very prevalent in the last 15+ years, was still more than 20 years off.  Birth certificates in 1961 used &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot;.  I'm surprised this isn't mentioned anywhere. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:19, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just finished reading Dreams from My Father. I don't recommend it. But one thing I missed was a reference to Malcolm X being Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot;. He speaks highly of Malcolm X's autobiography, but doesn't like the &amp;quot;religious baggage&amp;quot; that the guy &amp;quot;discarded in later life&amp;quot;. Is the reference here correct? [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 17:10, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Search Google on {&amp;quot;Malcolm X&amp;quot; Obama favorite} and you'll find numerous credible confirmations of the statement about Malcolm X being Obama's favorite black leader.  The entry need not be limited to the silly Dreams book.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:03, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not really seeing it. Various claims Obama loves Malcolm X's autobiography (which, subject to the point above, seems correct), but the claims that he is Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot; all cite no reference, or cite Dreams - I think incorrectly. Is there a source for Obama having said or written this? If not, it should go. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 18:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree that it should be sourced, preferably with a quote from his book or one of his speeches, otherwise it could be mistaken for an untrue rumor.  If he qualified the statement with something about X's religion, as Marcdaniels noted above, that should be included in the quote.  I looked for a credible source, but couldn't find one.  I have added a fact tag, which can be removed when a suitable citation is found. (Let's not forget that Malcolm X was involved with the Nation of Islam, which is quite a different thing than traditional Islam.  He rejected the Nation of Islam later in life.)--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Examples supporting the statement are easy to find.  I just added one.  I don't think anyone seriously doubts the truth of the statement.  Feel free to find and add other citations supporting it.  The discomfort expressed above seems to be with the fact itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Your source goes back to the book, which I'd thought we'd both agreed wasn't on point. It's entirely plausible that Obama might regard Malcolm X as his favorite black leader, and that would discomfort me in the slightest, but I'm having real difficulty finding any evidence that he has said or written this. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, you've misread me now.  I did not agree that book wasn't on point.  I did say there is further evidence beyond the book, which is easy to find on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: The quote from the book is convincing enough.  If you won't accept it, then I doubt you would accept anything now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I am now a little confused, and I'm not sure why you are getting personal. You suggested there were additional sources for the claim on the internet, other than those referring to the book, but I cannot find one. I may be missing something obvious - would be helpful if you could provide a link. The book shows Malcolm X's autobiography to have been Obama's favourite autobiography, and it would be accurate to say that, but anything further seems supposition rather than fact. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 11:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;if elected, Obama will become the first black, and possibly Muslim, President of the United States.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the problem with this sentence in place of the one currently there? For starters, it isn't proven that he's Muslim, but it ''is'' proven that he's black, so certainly it should be mentioned over the hypothetical. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The racial composition of all the past presidents is not completely known, so I doubt it's appropriate to insist that Obama would be the '''first''' black President.  Also, the racial composition of a man is not as important as his beliefs.  It is known that none of the prior presidents were Muslim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well said, Aschlafly.  It is the content of a person's character that should determine how we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; them.  Although, who are we to judge?  I suspect, however, looking at the photos, that Senator Obama would at least be the first President (if elected) with a clear [[African American]] heritage.  Whether a few others may have had a lineage leading back to Africa in their family tree is another, albeit interesting, question. [[User:Human|Human]] 23:16, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's an interesting argument. If we know so little about the former presidents that we cannot say whether any of them met society's contemporaneous definition of Black - the one-drop rule, for example - then how can we say than none of them were Muslim? If they could keep their African ancestry secret, why not their true religion? Is there evidence of political opponents accusing a candidate of being of mixed-blood ancestry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 23:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: As to whether past presidents were Muslims, simply look at what they did and said ... including before they became politically ambitious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot;, or at least &amp;quot;decide&amp;quot; when we vote.  However, when did &amp;quot;judge not... [lest ye be judged]&amp;quot; become a &amp;quot;liberal canard&amp;quot;?  I thought it was a warning in the Bible not to overstep our bounds?  Voting, of course, does not overstep them - we pencil in a space, or pull a lever.  That is not &amp;quot;judgment&amp;quot;, it is an expression of personal opinion or preference or ideas.  Moving beyond that simple step, however, leads us into judgment territory, potentially.  When we should be humble and add commentary on ourselves as well as those we judge is an issue of personal ethics - or morality.  A good time to sit down with good words and contemplate. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like someone to please explain to me how this is unbais? At least with the article you can try to make something up saying how its unbais but the main picture is trying to show very obviouisly that Obama is unpatriotic... If you look at McCains page or Palins the picture of professionally done. Please someone give me a reasonable answer [[User talk:Horriblesite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Funny you should comment. Is it Conservapedia making Obama unpatriotic or is it Obama who IS unpatriotic? I will say the latter.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, &amp;quot;unbais&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;professionally done&amp;quot; are Liberal canards. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are these the same thing? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 15:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing that bothers me about Obama is the comments attributed to his wife. 1. That it was the first time she was proud of america and 2.That black children had no future in america. Both she and her husband are examples of how well a black child can do so its hard to understand why she has that view. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 16:38, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See similar comments from John McCain: http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/06/mccain-it-can-be-%E2%80%9Ctough%E2%80%9D-to-be-proud-of-usa/   “I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country. “We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect this very obvious fake photo (look at how small the two women are compared to the chairs behind them, check out the flag's edges itself and what exactly is holding it up) was placed here by people hoping to discredit Conservapedia. I understand a popular activity among liberals and vandals is to insert things seeming to support Conservative and Christian values, but that are either extreme or fake, and so undermine the encyclopedia as a whole.--[[User:TruthOfChrist|TruthOfChrist]] 11:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It isn't fake.  Many other photos of this occasion exist.  Video, too.  The goofy-looking perspective is an artifact of the angle and lens used. --[[User:XavierJ|XavierJ]] 12:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==birth certificate lawsuit number 2==&lt;br /&gt;
In a second lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot; citizenship, a Washington resident is demanding officials review original or certified birth documents for the Democratic Party presidential candidate.&lt;br /&gt;
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:See my analysis of this on this Talk Page, point 58: &amp;quot;Barack raises the bar&amp;quot;. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:25, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- The first sentence says Obama was born in Hawaii.  At first I was under the impression that someone decided to act in a competent manner and remove the baseless innuendo about his place of birth.  Alas I was mistaken because later in the article the word 'alleged' is still used.  I thought all reasonable people would presume that a document from the State of Hawaii would suffice to prove one's citizenship instead of using the rants of the lunatic fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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: A lawsuit has been filed by someone seeking the real birth certificate.  Complain to him, and explain why it still apparently has not been produced.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The state of Hawaii is not just going to let anybody get a copy of Obama's birth certificate, let alone his original.  I can't even get my hands on my own original birth certificate and I'll bet neither can you.  A certified copy of Obama's birth certificate has been provided for anyone to look at.  If this copy is good enough for our government officials that are not part of the lunatic fringe, then why isn't it good enough for Conservapedia?  I'd like to think Conservapedia is not aligning itself with the likes of the people filing these nonsense lawsuits.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama only attended religious schools until he reached the age of ten (Islamic and Catholic).  The rest of his education from Punahou School, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard was nonsectarian.  Clearly the vast majority of his education was non-religious. [[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Obama's formative years were spend being indoctrinated in Islam.  Less than 1% convert to Christianity after that experience.  Enough said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was never under the impression that a person's formative years stopped at the age of ten.  According to you, Obama shouldn't be a liberal because he attended conservative religious schools during his alleged formative years, 6 - 10.  How is it that he is now a liberal after living another 35+ years and attending an ivy-league college?  You are also ignoring his years in a Catholic school during his time in Indonesia.  Why?  If he spent two of his formative years at a Catholic school, shouldn't he be a Catholic?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Malcom X was not THE leader of the Nation of Islam, he was A leader.  There is a distinct difference. [[http://www.finalcall.com/national/savioursday2k/hem_nation.htm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Nitpicking here.  I'll change &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; for you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Don't do it for me, do it for the reputation of Conservapedia.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama was baptized in 1988, the same year he started attending Harvard.  If there is a reference stating he was baptized prior to his political ambitions, please post it.  [[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1988 makes no sense, as no one ever saw any Christian behavior or church attendance by Obama at law school from 1988 to 1991.  Post his baptismal certificate.  You can't and neither can Obama.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why doesn't 1988 make any sense?  Was there a problem with my reference?  Are you able to provide reputable evidence that Obama's baptism didn't occur in 1988?  Just because a person doesn't attend church on a regular basis or hardly at all is not a reason to deny someone's baptism.  Elsewhere in this article is criticism directed at Obama's CHRISTIAN pastor of 20 years.  Either Obama is a Christian that attended a Christian church for 20 years or he is not.  If he is a Muslim, then why all the fuss about his Christian pastor of 20 years?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It adds to the evidence.  If Obama were reading the Bible, then that would detract from the evidence.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama does read his Bible and has encouraged others to do so as well.  Would like a reference?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Roosevelt communicated with America's enemies.  After the outbreak of WW II, Roosevelt was negotiating with the Japanese.  Things didn't go well and the Japanese were embargoed, thus losing most of their import capability including over 90% of their oil supplies. [[http://www.fff.org/freedom/1291c.asp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your point is lacking here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In reference to Obama saying we should talk to our enemies, the following claim was made, &amp;quot;Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender.&amp;quot;  Roosevelt and members of his administration talked to our enemies, the reference provided by the article was written by a columnist with a distinct lack of historical credibility.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- If Obama' likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students', then which scholarships were they?  Could a reference at least be provided?&lt;br /&gt;
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: You tell us.  Obama won't disclose who paid for his education.  He claimed he worked his way through school, but that was disproved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why should I tell you?  The claim was made in the article without a shred of evidence to back it up.  I do happen to know that the Obama's used college loans to pay for much of their schooling and they only just recently paid them off with the proceeds from his books.  Since someone writing for Conservapedia is making the incredible claim that Obama was somehow able to acquire loans not available to most others, shouldn't a reference be provided so the claim will withstand scrutiny? --[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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- Any chance a reference could be provided for the claim concerning the flag pin?  The way it reads now makes the entry look like partisan whining.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Be clearer.  No one denies Obama avoided wearing a flag pin as he catered to the anti-war crowd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The claim, ' Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering' was made without a reference.  Any chance this opinion could be verified so the article doesn't sound like a smear?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The general tone of the article makes it look like a partisan smear campaign, not the encyclopedic scholarly work Conservapedia alleges to produce.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 17:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.''  I think this statement needs to be tweaked a bit.  While it's true that Malcolm X was a leader in the Nation of Islam (a radical black separatist group, not to be confused with the traditional Islam faith), by the time he wrote his autobiography (as told to Alex Haley, of Roots fame), he had rejected the Nation of Islam and converted to traditional Islam.  If Obama was inspired by the book to take up Malcolm's religion (which is a stretch, IMHO, as lots of people have read this book and not become Muslims), he would most likely have chosen traditional Islam like Malcolm did.  I think it's important to make that distinction clear.  (Unless this item is intended to suggest that Obama is a member of the Nation of Islam?  If so, it should be in a different section, as it's quite a different claim.)  FWIW, Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965, four years after Obama's birth.  Also, the title of the book is ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X''.  So I suggest this item be changed to something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds considered and precise.  Most black muslims are NOT NOI, they are in fact sunni Muslim.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 20:11, 20 October 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamas Grandmother==&lt;br /&gt;
Breaking news, Americans still forbidden to speak with Obamas grandmother. Now, we may never. Democrat Barack Obama is canceling nearly all his campaign events Thursday and Friday to fly to Hawaii to visit his suddenly ill 86-year-old grandmother.&lt;br /&gt;
Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Monday that Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him, was released from the hospital late last week. But he says her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama events originally planned for Madison, Wis., and Des Moines, Iowa, on Thursday will be replaced with one in Indianapolis before he makes the long flight to Hawaii. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:16, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally and this is just style, I do not like the '''Bold text''', it makes look rather alarming, not that we are not alarmed about this, but I think it is best to say the raw facts directly and people will know to be alarmed, instead of trying to shock people with text formatting into coming to their sense. I heard Conservapedia wants to get away from &amp;quot;that other encyclopedia&amp;quot;'s use of sensationism and tabloid style, so, maybe take off the bold. [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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other than this a very good job in the article, maybe it is too late to change direction your country is going, but at least people will know who had the facts before things all went wrong! [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I appreciate your comments but don't find them compelling.  &amp;quot;Atom bombs&amp;quot; is a familiar term; whether Clinton did likewise concerning terrorists is irrelevant; and bolding is obviously helpful for emphasis.  Thanks anyway and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I plan to stick to the 90-10 ratio here, and this is the first comment I've made, I did want to note that I agree with Eleger about &amp;quot;Atomic Bombs&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Nuclear Weapons&amp;quot; simply on the basis of the being more accurate terms. My person phrase of choice would be Nuclear arsenal though. Maybe nitpicking, but I think fair. -EternalCritic&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came to post that too; I also have a problem with &amp;quot;first&amp;quot; part of &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs&amp;quot;. The most recent Democrat President was bad too. OTOH, something like &amp;quot;second person...&amp;quot; might distract from the point that Obama is a threat.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== How low can you go? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this meant as an &amp;quot;How To&amp;quot; article on character assassination? Though I do find some of the 'links' in the Obama and Islam hilarious, I'd thought that the conservative parts of the US had a shred of dignity left. It appears not to be the case. But keep feeding the lies to your fellow yes-men, the rest of us are quite amused.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We are not going low at all, You Who Did Not Leave Your Name. This entry is nothing about the truth about Barack Obama. Unfortunately, liberals like you will not find out until it is too late.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 21:20, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: ''&amp;quot;the rest of us are quite amused.&amp;quot;'' I am sure the leftwingers are quite amused of the nonstop Obama media lovefest. I am sure they are also amused at the whole disenfranchisement of voting in a Democracy thanks to ACORN. I am on a conservative website and I can't find a good Obama bio, shucks billybob, I need the Obama I can believe in, let's look at MSNBC... La La La, liberal fantasy land.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Berg Obama lawsuit==&lt;br /&gt;
Philip J. Berg announced 10/21 that Obama and the DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President. [http://obamacrimes.com/]--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:26, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;admission&amp;quot; is nothing more than an acknowledgment that there was no response to his suit, so Berg is claiming that this qualifies as an admission that all his allegations are true.  Berg's now positioning this as &amp;quot;Obama admits he's not a citizen&amp;quot;, but that is legal spin, not reality, and I'd be hesitant to claim it as anything other than the latest round in a lawsuit.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 10:52, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There's a legal principle that the silent are understood to consent.  Obama's failure to deny Berg's request for admission means that he admits those items under the law.  This definitely should be included, and should be reason enough to disqualify him from the election.  [[User:QWest|QWest]] 16:03, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lefty DindaleP was right, though it shouldn't be hard to find a sympathetic judge in Democrat bastion of Philadelphia. If, if the bozo (obama) wins, this issue will not go away easily and will be justification for impeachment. Though, will be hard to impeach with super-majority liberal congress, God help us. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Actually, McCain has a similar issue, in that he was not born in the US, and arguably not on US territory.  Most every single scholar I've read in the last few days on this has said McCain's case will be a compelling one, legally, because no court in the land would dare say a person born out of this country to two citizens, one of whom was SERVING HIS COUNTRY, would be denied the right to be president.  As we become more and more of a mobile population, with people traveling and living overseas for extended periods of time (business, government, or travel) I think more children will be born of two natural citizens, but not on the US territory.  I will be curious to watch how the term &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot; is defined by the Court under any case, Obama or McCain, just for the historical precedent it will set.  --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:41, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::: By the way, Qwest, there is no legal principal that &amp;quot;silence is admittance&amp;quot;.  Until or unless a Judge posts an Order compelling you to provide a particular document or telling you to agree or deny, you are not obligated to.  Some instances this might be used could include famous people being hit over and over again with frivolis lawsuits, just cause they have money or power.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::McCain was born in United States territory, which the Panama Canal Zone was prior to 1978, when by treaty it was turned over to Panama.  Anyone born in the United States, its territories, or its overseas military bases is an American citizen.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:18, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Yes, very much an American citizen.  The interesting language is &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot;.  That is what will be interesting to see how it's defined.  I think it makes rational sense that anyone born to American parents should be &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot;, regardless of where they are born.  But the Framers didn't explain the terms.  (I'm not arguing, by the way, for any point.  I'm simply saying scholars say this issue of an American Citizen not born on US land has not yet been addressed - or rather, what do the words &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot; mean, in that context.)  The lawsuit for McCain is totally irrelevant (even though the judge has not seen fit to toss it yet), since the Congress already said he is exempt per their own Resolution. --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 13:23, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birthplace and Grammar Revisited==&lt;br /&gt;
''Barack Hussein Obama, II (allegedly born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)''  Putting aside all issues about whether the &amp;quot;where Obama was born&amp;quot; issue is worth mentioning, given that it ''is'' going to be mentioned, let's get it right.  The issue (as a previous poster mentioned somewhere above), is not ''whether'' he was born - we all agree on that.  The issue is whether he was born ''in Honolulu''.  Thus the phrase should read: ''Barack Hussein Obama, II (born, allegedly in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)'' --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:06, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add this external page and somehow link to this photo Democrat_Obama_during_the_Pledge.jpg   [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html No hand over heart from Obama during national anthem video]| Original footage ABC, now available through RawStory Media. [[Fair use]] --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:07, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Will unlock for you now.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:13, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If elected, Obama would likely become the first Muslim President&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
The evidence pointing to Obama being a Muslim can be included, but Barack Obama has said he is a Christian, and is a member of the United Church of Christ. So is saying he is likely to become a Muslim president meant to imply that Obama is secretly a Muslim? Perhaps a better phrased version of this sentence would be &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;. This is concurrent list that follows it, and is much less hypothetical like a good resource should be.  --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 21:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Obama's claims to be a Christian are meaningless for three reasons; first, his distinctly non-Christian stance on issues such as [[abortion]] and the [[homosexual agenda]]; second, the radical, [[Marxism|Marxist]] theology preached by his church; and third, the [[Muslim]] concept of [[taqiyya]] outlined in the article. All the of the evidence points away from his being a Christian. [[User:SMichaels|SMichaels]] 16:06, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Using Taqiyya as a defense is a joke. I'm not doubting it's authenticity, but I could claim the same thing about you and you would have no defense. See Salem Witch Trials for more information. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama's stances on [[abortion]] the [[homosexual agenda]] and [[marxism|Marxism]] do take credibility away from his Chrisitian stance, but Muslims are against [[abortion]], [[homosexual agena|homosexualiity]] and women's rights themselves. Furthermore, [[Marxism]] is against all religions, and if his church preaches Marxism, that makes him a Marxist Christian, not a Marxist Muslim. While I myself question his faith in Jesus, I sincerely doubt that he is a Muslim. And as for Taqiyya? Isn't that just an obscure segment of a doctrine practiced only by some Sunnis and considered hypocrisy by other muslims? [[user:justiceisblind|Justice Is Blind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The facts you gave are true, but you did not address my bringing up the idea of rewording the phrase. Having a set of words like &amp;quot;might be&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;could be&amp;quot; seem extremely unscholarly. Those facts you threw up also would correspond to him having a strong leaning toward Islam, minus the hypothetical thought he might be a Muslim. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 23:03, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The truth is what it is, whether you find it &amp;quot;unscholarly&amp;quot; or not.  We're not fooled here when politicians try to deceive the public about who they are and what they believe.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:00, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why is it so hard to directly answer my question? First off, do not mix my words, I said the way the sentence is phrased is not scholarly, what is truth or not does not matter to me.  I don't really care what you say is the truth, and what you are or are not fooled by. I am just bringing up the option that as long as Obama himself and no mosques claim he is a member, perhaps it should be reworded to &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;, which also corresponds to the list that follows it, and is all based on fact no conjecture. The reader should have the right to make up their own mind after reading the examples which are listed. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 22:18, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There are strong evidence that Obama is a muslim and it has been layed out again and again.  He has never come out and said he's not a muslim among all the questions.  There for if elected, he will be the first muslim president ever elected.  It's as simple as that. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Sure he has.  [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0GFKqOf8EHQ]--[[User:KathrynMonroe|KathrynMonroe]] 22:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yes, he has. [http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/01/obama_mail]  --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barack raises the bar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The snide accusation that Barack Obama insulted America because he refused to hold his hand over his heart is completely off-target. (See photo at top of article). The human heart is just a pump , medically speaking, but culturally it represents the finest, most vital and sensitive parts of our soul. Barack is indicating precisely how much he loves America by putting not one, but both hands over that part of his body which truly encompasses the most vital, potent and sincere components of his soul. Bill Clinton might not be his biggest fan, but he would be the first to applaud this magnificent gesture. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:37, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [[User:Aperson41|Aperson41]] 01:50, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Wow. I have no idea of what to say to that.--[[User:JArneal|JArneal]] 19:07, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A hypothetical article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The vast majority of this article appears to be purely hypothetical and some of it seems to be fradulent, such as the pornographer donation and the speculation that Obama is a muslim. It is refreshing to see Obama in such a sober light, but I would encourage previous and future writers to be less interested in controversy, and to use legitimate information on the article instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the article lacks structure, and seems to dive in and out of his history, his policies, quotations in a manner which pleases the tone. It is all quite juvenile and sad; an encyclopedia is where questions are answered, not where additional questions are brought up.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Birth Certificate Controversy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole section should be reworded or entirely deleted. According to [http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04 this], there can be no more doubt about Obama's birthplace. The article also states, that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate, so all demands for him to do that can only be part of a smear campaign. --[[User:Ascat|Ascat]] 15:22, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agreed.  For more confirmation see [http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu] and [http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov01/0,4670,InternetPoliticalRumors,00.html Fox News' article about Web political rumors.]  Having 'allegedly' made sense before all the facts were on the table, but now I'm removing the word because it lessens the strength of our true, verifiable criticisms if we leave it there. [[User:Jinkas|Jinkas]] 20:58, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: What about the lawsuit against him about this? [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2313]--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 21:23, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The lawsuits all fell through, because anyone looking at the official documents could tell that they were real, it was a manufactured controversy thanks to Hillary (boy I wish expletives were allowed on conservapedia). --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:49, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This issue remains valid even though rejected by the courts. Expect it to be revisited if he wins. Plus, allegiances owed to Keyna and Indonesia are part of the birth certificate controversy. Neither gossip nor the certificate proven true and Hawaii actions are unexplained, still. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: My version doesn't violate comandments 1, 3, and 5 like the version that was removed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don't like the edit, but I will let it remain. It does violate CP with personal opinion, (costly time and money during busy election season). --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:30, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The tone is bad I will admit, but that is all fact and not opinion. Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes tie to sit in court for several days? Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes money to pay court costs and extra lawyers? Is it an opinion or a fact that he is in a campaign where the outcome depends largely on the tie and money he spends campaigning? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:44, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::JPatt, could you explain &amp;quot;allegiance to Kenya?&amp;quot;  I don't understand this comment.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:57, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The original post on this page says &amp;quot;that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate.&amp;quot;  I do not believe this to be what the original article says.  I think it means simply that no state official has the authority to release publicly a birth certificate, not that Obama himself is unable to do so. [[User:TGeary|TGeary]] 20:15, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mr. Obama's Grandmother just died==&lt;br /&gt;
Without getting into politics, it would be nice to mention it respectfully on his page.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:33, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do we have any reputable sources for that?  Given Obama's history of engaging in [[liberal deceit]], I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate a story like this to nullify attacks on Election Day. [[User:Neutronium|Neutronium]] 14:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::May I say, comments like this are what hurt our republican party this year.  His politics may be liberal, but he's still a human and making fun of a death of a loved one is beneath a good Christian. {{unsigned|JeanJacques}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Neutronium, keep the parody to a minimum, please. That is simply heartless.&lt;br /&gt;
:::JeanJacques, yes, if it's relevant (do we have the mention of grandparents on anyone else's page? I don't know without looking) the we need it added in a respectful way. No matter what we think about Obama, he is a human and so is his grandmother. The was it is presented now, it almost seems as if we are implying that her death contributes to the controversy, when it clearly doesn't. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:54, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Neutronium, there is a difference between being a cautious &amp;amp; prudent person, and being a paranoid, heartless person (i use the word &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; only due to the website rules of proper conduct). You would do well to realize that...AndrewM&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Is Why Obama Is Wining==&lt;br /&gt;
Articles like this make me think that Conservapedia is run by liberals. Burying real facts like Obama's membership in a Black Liberation Theology church, with silly lies like he is a &amp;quot;muslim&amp;quot;, only serve to discredit real objections to the Obama candidacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed. Congratulayions Andy, you did more for the Democrats than you can possibly know. Thoroughly discrediting this site with ridiculous partisan accusations based onm the flimsiest of evidence meant that anything that was a genuine talking point just got lost among the nonsense. That many on the left pointed to this page to discredit the entire conservapedia idea just goes to show that you can go too far. Congratulations for playing your part in losing the election and being successfully gamed by the left, who knew that you would leave tenuous ridiculous nonsense up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's not badmouth the side that lost. Andy, you did your best, and I appreciate that. However, you can see from my comments from way back, that the Obama article was way too extreme, and included a number of outright falsehoods. Not saying that this lost the race for McCain, but going too extreme eventually starts to hurt. Like in business - a good CEO is someone who is willing to go to the edge of what is legal, but not cross that line. Those CEO's who stay on the edge are winners, those who go over, go to jail. Same thing here...I think the whole Republican campaign was just too darn negative, and put off a lot of undecided voters. Anyway, here's looking forward to President Schwarzenegger in 2012...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Both sides were overly negative, but in reality that's a natural thing for long campaigns. The longer it runs the less fresh the ideas seem. It gets repetetive so after a while, in order to keep things fresh, mudslinging becomes common. I honestly wish we had a much shorter election time frame. Like six months max. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:41, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I've just decided that this site's main contributors are probably liberals messing around with people. I bet there are some liberals somewhere getting a huge laugh at people who are seriously offended, or seriously believe half of these articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is going to be the next president==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama has won the election, and I think this should be added to the page. [[User:Arthur205|Arthur205]] 00:12, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he is, sadly. I encourage all of us to PRAY for the FATE OF OUR COUNTRY. Unfortunately, this page must be updated. [[User:LuvinGodDP|LuvinGodDP]] 10:10, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised no one has updated it yet, it's been over 12 hours since it's been announced. Honestly this sort of time lag on the internet is just sad. You would think that they would at least un-protect it in order for someone else to update it. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:13, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States of America==&lt;br /&gt;
Article should be updated accordingly&lt;br /&gt;
: President-''Elect'', technically speaking. He won't be President until he's inaugurated, and we should hold off on explicitly saying he's the winner until the electoral college has voted (not that I'm pretending there's any real chance of 100+ faithless electors suddenly popping up to help McCain). Right now, he's just the likely winner of the presidential race. --[[User:JeremyDB|JeremyDB]] 12:24, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Let's not disrespect McCain's gracious concession. We should put in that he's the President Elect and when he will be inaugurated. Let's at least be up to date. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:56, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The first section of this article has been updated to reflect that Obama is now president-elect, but the rest needs to be updated also.  For instance, the section entitled &amp;quot;Obama would be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; should now be &amp;quot;Obama will be the first Muslim President,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;will use the Koran to be sworn in,&amp;quot; etc. -[[User:Rfreeman|Rfreeman]] 18:04, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What happening with the muslim section? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see why it needs to be above the TOC, The TOC lets people find what they are looking for, which may very well be proof that he is a Muslim, and really should be on the first page for formatting reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Obama's middle name (Hussein) references its namesake Husayn, who was the grandson of Muhammad, which most Christians would not retain.''&lt;br /&gt;
In this case the reference should be after the word Muhammad, because it does not reference the notion that christians would have there name changed, also it is his fathers name, and if he changed it it could negatively impact his relationship with his family, I would not consider this strong evidence. Seems like Opinion to me&lt;br /&gt;
*'' Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;'' You do know that the video cited as its source showed clearly that he was talking about a tactic that McCain could use, not his real faith (I strongly suspect Obama to be pretty apathetic to religion)&lt;br /&gt;
*''On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria, which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.'' If reading a book written in a muslim POV makes you a muslim than how do we know what is in this book, because we can't trust anyone who read it to not be a muslim. If he were seen praying out the the qran that would be another story entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.'' Pakistan is an islamic nation, the american way of saying it is a bastardized version, he is using the name the nation calls its self.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think that this should be reworded in to prose and that it needs to be below the TOC.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:46, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Copyediting needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961), Democratic Party member, junior senator of the state of Illinois, and president-elect of the United States, winning the 2008 Election over Arizona Senator John McCain [3].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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is not a sentence... [[User:Human|Human]] 14:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I know they won't let me because I'm too new and can be a bit controversial, but I would love to rewrite the entire first paragraph. It has become such a muddled mess that it doesn't read well at all. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 14:27, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Muslim? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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That section of the article looks like its attempting to proove that he is a muslim. Why not simply say &amp;quot;some prominent christian sites including X and Y have suggested that Obama may be a muslim&amp;quot;. It currently looks like it's trying to make people think that he is a muslim, and that for some reason that's bad. What's wrong with muslims?--[[User:Newguy123|Newguy123]] 16:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think the point is that - no there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim but lying about it for political gain is a problem. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:32, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Again, that makes the presupposition being that someone lies when all you have is superficial, rather strained evidence to say he isn't lying.  Not very gracious on our part.  There are plenty of legitimate issues with Mr. Obama.  Living in gossip and innuendo and &amp;quot;he once made a mistake when talking&amp;quot; seems petty on our part.  Isn't it more important to emphasis why he is a socialist?  All we say is &amp;quot;he is&amp;quot;, not what that means, and how it could effect the country, etc.  It bothers me that this site emphasizes gossip.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 16:42, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Personally I dont think he is a Muslim however I am not going to kick up a fuss as I was already warned by Aschlafly (is he the boss?) for....something I did? Not sure what. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:45, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I think it's funny how at the beginning of the article it claims he is a muslim, and then at the end discusses his previous church and pastor. It even lists 1988 as his year of baptism despite the beginning of the article stating he didn't have a date for baptism, which for everyone here in the conservapedia zone seems to take as undeniable proof he is a super secret muslim spy out for your children and pets.&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously though, I've mentioned it above that having an article for the current president of the U.S. start out with a poor and unnecessary argument over his faith is ''unprofessional'' at best. The beginning makes no valid points, manages to insult Muslims as a whole, and also contains that stupid picture of Obama in a traditional Kenyan costume.--[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 23:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A Muslim President-elect! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Now that the unthinkable has occurred and Obama has duped the American People and stolen the election, he will become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and will probably use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It is widely believed that now he is President-elect, Obama will drop the tiresome pretence of being a Christian and produce his other wives from hiding, don a turban and a scimitar, pray buns-up five times a day on a Persian carpet while facing Mecca, have a minaret built on top of the White House from which he will personally play the role of the muezzin and call the faithful to prayer, will establish policy recommending that “the Zionist entity be driven into the sea”, and put bin Laden’s face on the American dollar. The week after that will probably be even worse.&amp;quot; If no one objects, I will make some such interpolations in the article proper. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:30, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;70's terrorist&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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he is a &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; end of story. once a terrorist, always a terrorist&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good point, [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]].  Thanks for the edit. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:24, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The man is a functioning member of society, an educator, a family man, who has condemns his past actions, and has worked greatly towards improving the lives of others through charity work. He was a part of a group that destroyed ''property'', which doesn't make him a terrorist because that would imply he did random acts of terror on ''people''. Blowing up statues and parts of buildings was wrong but they did not go after people, and no one was hurt or killed. To compare him to Bin Laden is ''despicable''. And to put a section about this man at the top of the page of Presidential-elect Obama who worked with him in an organization to help reduce poverty levels is neither well thought out or ''tactful''. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 08:46, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Except that the Weather Underground did in fact kill people - 3 of their own, in a bomb-making accident.  Sometimes that happens when you set off bombs, even if it's not what you had in mind.  I would put other property-destruction crimes such as cross burning in the terror category as well.  I do agree that Obama's association with Ayres is minimal, at best, and I have huge issues with all the guilt-by-association tactics employed by the McCain campaign.  I'm not taking a stand on the content of this article one way or another. I'm just trying to organize it and cite it as best I can. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't believe an accidental death of their own people should be considered &amp;quot;terror&amp;quot; though. People could technically die while making signs for a normal type of protest, not as likely, but an accident is an accident. Although I do think that some property destruction like cross burning could be argued to be terroristic because it is done in order to terrify a group of people and incite violence against that group. However I still think that what the weather underground did does not quite carry that same connotations. They were protesting a war, and doing so by costing the government money and drawing attention to their cause, at no time was a group of people targeted in a way that would indicate that they were in danger directly from a hostile organization, unless you were an office desk or a public statue/monument. To use the word &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot;, especially nowadays, in the case of Bill Ayers is misleading, and it is a word that should not be tossed around lightly. It seems that people believe that Ayers = Terrorist, so therefore he must have killed people or tried to kill people, and this article does little to correct this misconception. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:41, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MInd Control? Really now? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The people who published this lost what little credibility they had when they published this. Repeating it on this page just makes you look bad. I mean an O looks like a crystal ball? First of all it also looks like an orange or a penny or anything else that is round and circular. Also, I think that crystal balls are the favorite of ''fortune tellers'' so unless Obama can predict the future (which I think might make him a ''better'' president) this doesn't mean much. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:54, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree.  I am a practicing stage hypnotist (practicing because I still need work :) and I can tell you that most hypnotists use nothing but their voices and physical presence, and those who do use props traditionally use a pencil. [[User:SamuelA|SamuelA]] 13:21, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Absence of Dancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dancing is a popular form of celebration and partying by all ethnicities.  But why is [[Barack Obama]] rarely seen dancing, or even allowing and attending dancing.  Perhaps I've missed it (please let me know if I have).  I know, there was one highly staged politically correct dance with Ellen DeGeneris as Obama was catering to her audience.  But where's the rest?&lt;br /&gt;
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One explanation is that the Islamic [[sharia]] disfavors dancing.[http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2008/10/islamic-scholars-denounce-dancing-say.html] --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:08, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When's the last time you went dancing, Andy? [[User:HDCase|HDCase]] 11:23, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::so there it is... at least three different places where he's seen dancing. Here's my question: lets see you find videos of Mccain dancing! xP your Islamic assumption thingy holds no water since you can say the same for McCain! [[User:Ema|Ema]] 11:26, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ah! Ema, don't be fooled by this [[deceit]], he might secretly be a [http://www.dankphotos.com/whirling/ whirling dervish!] They're members of [[Sufi]] Islam, by the way. --[[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: It will be fascinating to see how long it takes people to wake up to who Obama really is.  Judging by the determined objections above, it may be quite a while for some of his supporters.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:06, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your argument is that he is a bad dancer so he must be a Muslim? Seriously Andrew, take a deep breath and relax, proving him to be a Muslim is not going to get him impeached, he has the presidency and that is that. In four years it might matter, but that means you have poor years to find less circumstantial evidence. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:27, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, Brendanw, it is obviously not my argument that he is a &amp;quot;bad dancer.&amp;quot;  I think you understand my argument perfectly well and won't admit it.  Suit yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:31, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Brendan's right about one thing at least. All the evidence listed is either circumstantial or draws illogical conclusions. The one about him when he says he joins a church after a suggestion does not in any way imply him as a muslim, though it might imply him as a disingenuous Christian. The two are mutually exclusive. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Well please explain it to  me differently, initially you said he didn't dance, and now that we have three videos of it you say that he &amp;quot;dances with out dancing&amp;quot; what does that mean if not bad dancer? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:45, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Andy's saying that, in those three videos, Obama isn't really ''dancing'', in the sense of crossing a line of Muslim (im)morality.  It's like being against swearing, but recognizing that words like &amp;quot;heck&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;geez&amp;quot; don't really cross that line.  That said, however, I did run across a video where [http://splicd.com/wzyT9-9lUyE/31/52 Obama dances] by anyone's definition.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:25, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::RossC, this video is obviously faked. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 14:32, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if he will dance at his inaugural ball, if it gets to that point. (see: Berg) [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 13:47, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In some Islamic traditions dancing is not allowed, in some christian traditions dancing is not allowed, some people regardless of religion just don't dance with enthusiasm (was he supposed to be [dancing inappropriately with] Ellen? While Barrack is a hottie I'm not sure she would let him do that) I was raised catholic and as a result I am a very quiet person who does not raise his arms in celebration. This is just such a far stretch that it doesn't mean anything. Heck if he were keeping his faith hidden and not praying to meca and not following the rules of Islam in order to complete the 35 year long mission that was trained in to him at a public school in indonesia at the age of 10 don't you think he would dance anyways? And his wife is a great dancer, in Islam men have a whole lot more freedom than women. this just doesn't add up to anything but crazy. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:30, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I love to dance.  For what it's worth, I have seen an Obama campaign button with a picture of him dancing, and the words &amp;quot;Dance Yes We Can&amp;quot; on it.  It caught my eye because I take dance lessons.  See here [http://www.zazzle.com/obama_dance_button-145707809176961889] for a picture of the button. Over the years, I have met homeschooling moms of various faiths (Christian, Muslim, Jewish) who are careful about their children dancing for modesty reasons. Not everyone enjoys dancing, of course, particularly men.  While it's an interesting facet of Obama, to be honest I don't see it as a strong indicator of his religious beliefs.  When weaker arguments are included, it detracts from the stronger ones, I think. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:21, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't dance, and I can assure you that I'm not a Muslim. I'm a lousy dancer, and self-conscious about it. I also don't have a tinfoil hat, which might be why this whole conversation seems ludicrous to me. Godspeed.[[User:Thecount|Thecount]] 21:40, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The very conservative former Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, did not dance in public. This is despite the fact that his treasurer, Peter Costello, and his rival and current Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, both danced on national television. Is this evidence that John Howard is a Muslim? Certainly not. There is a much less sinister and blatantly obvious explanation for Obama's lack of dancing - he isn't good at it. Just have a look at the videos posted, he has clearly received minimal dance instruction and is evidently self conscious.&lt;br /&gt;
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And just out of curiosity, has anyone actually seen John McCain dance? How about Palin or Biden? If these three have not then why should the explanation for their lack of participation not be extended to Obama? [[User:NormanS|NormanS]] 22:05, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Not to mention the fact that Spectral Evidence was outlawed in America back in the 1600's after 19 people were murdered for being accused of witchcraft. Get with the times, Schlafly. [[User:DRuss|DRuss]] 08:51, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What is different about Obama that makes it unusual for him to not be much of a dancer?  [[User:Corry|Corry]] 09:45, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Still waiting on an answer, Andy. When'd you last hit the dance floor? [[User:HDCase|HDCase]] 15:43, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Though irrelevant to the issue, I dance in times of celebration, and have also arranged for the availability of dancing by attendees at such events.  Pursue this irrelevancy further and your account will be blocked, per my comment on your talk page.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:41, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: He does somewhat have a point, even if his methods of conveying it are a little childish. He's pretty much pointing out that your accusation opens up a big can of worms. If I was to say that Obama's lack of dancing must mean he is Muslim due to Islamic Sharia, I could also say that if I saw you sitting on the floor you must be a Muslim who is kneeling to Mecca. [[User:St0dad|St0dad]] 09:09, 8 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti Americanism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many points in this article could be summarized into a section called &amp;quot;Anti Americanism&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If I make such an edit will I be banned? [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:01, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Muslim Faith&amp;quot; comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On a side note, the entire section, for accuracy's sake, should be called &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is not a Christian&amp;quot; since the only parts that are not circumstantial are in regard to disingenuous Christianity. Beyond that the idea of him not changing his name making him muslim is ridiculous. He was named for his Father. Example from reality: my middle name is Paul. I received it fromt he name of my grandfather. I'm no longer Christian. But I don't change my middle name because I no longer believe Paul's words. I keep it because I love and respect my grandfather. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:14, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I partially agree. Maybe there should be two sections. One detailing Anti-Christian facts and one for Pro-Muslim [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Schlafly reverted my change ... Why? [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 14:18, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because you don't agree with him.[[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 15:14, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So it's Schlaflypedia then? I had high hopes for Conservapedia [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 15:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I reverted your change because you deleted factual information.  That reason should be obvious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:41, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is interesting to note that the MSM has buried the exact phrase and can only be found on blogs. The media will use the third person term, e.g. &amp;quot;Obama responds to McCains allegations of Socialistic.&amp;quot; The quote itself is relevent. A play on words to blunt its' true impact. Actual charges of 'Socialism' or of being a 'Socialist'. Nobody uses &amp;quot;Socialistic&amp;quot;--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:26, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can someone please explain to me how Barack Obama is a Muslim? Thanks. [[User:Rockthecasbah|Rockthecasbah]] 23:12, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Clearly someone's not paying attention. Not that I endorse the, uh, theory, but there's a whoooooole big section about it in the article. And several discussions on this talk page. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:15, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point the very thought that he's a Muslim is preposterous. No Muslim would willingly put Rahm Emmanuel, someone so notably Jewish and pro israel in such a powerful position (chief of staff). All in all though, a pretty good choice from the pool. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 23:27, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama isn't a muslim.  He doesn't have the character we see on the trail to do so.  I think Obama will be an awful President, is not a christian (it's too liberal), supports infanticide and sodomy, and won't do almost ''any'' of the thigs he has promised.  That aside I don't think he's a muslim.  Alot of the proof is probably just part of his warped view of multi-culturism, which includes the so-called ''peaceful'' religion of Allah and Muhammed.  This should be placed on a different page and other more certain information placed on this page (e.g. a better photo should be placed on the top, not a picture of him which tries to accuse his patriotism.)  He is going to be President, a bad one, but one nonetheless.  Please, let us respect the authority of our time.  [[User:Additioner|Additioner]] 07:34, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Think about this: If I had told you on September 12 2001, that in 6 years we'd ellect a liberal, socialist muslim named Barack Hussein Obama, who has terrorist friends, you call me crazy.  But here we are.  [[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Connections with Irish Terrorists==&lt;br /&gt;
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I note that a liberal contributor has seen fit to add a line stating that The Republic of Ireland refused to extradite Rita O'Hare -- the IRA terrorist who Obama met last year -- for one of several alleged offences. Why is this of any interest? She served time in the Republic for smuggling explosives. So that country's legal authorities were in no doubt as to her status. Does Wikipedia regard shooting British soldiers in Northern Ireland as a &amp;quot;political offence&amp;quot;? If so, then should we regard killing American soldiers in Iraq the same way? I don't think so. --[[User:KeithJoseph|KeithJoseph]] 18:29, 7 November 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well spoken Keith!   I intend to contact the Irish Embassy in Washington and ask that they make a clear statement condemning our Marxist Terrorist President-Elect's meeting with these vile killers.   I would encourage ASchlafly to perhaps make a television appearance about this?   As a lawyer, I'm sure he can speak to the international law aspects of this very serious matter.   What's next I wonder - how soon are Nobama's Shining Path, Khmer Rouge, Sandanista, and Red Brigade friends going to crawl their way from their terrorist swamps into the halls of Washington power?!   Not long I'll bet!   [[User:ArnieS|ArnieS]] 13:34, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nodanca was was probably a member of the [[FLQ]], too! [[User:HDCase|HDCase]] 18:38, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it was the High Court in the Republic of Ireland that regarded her case as falling under the exemptions for 'political offences'.  That is why they refused to extradite her to N. Ireland.  Also, Arnie S., if you truly are indignant about the &amp;quot;vile killer&amp;quot; Rita O'Hare, why don't you call your members of Congress to condemn the fact that she is the duly appointed Sinn Fein Representative to the US. [[User:Tordenvaer|Tordenvaer]] 18:37, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I don't understand. I genuinely don't understand. My edit to the Obama page on this subject has been deleted as being &amp;quot;inappropriate and silly&amp;quot;. What is the distinction between a link with the Weather Underground and a link with the IRA? Why are inverted commas placed around “terrorism” (like this) when discussing the latter organisation and not when deriding Bill Ayres's mob. I suppose it's different -- and less significant -- when Obama's pals are blowing up Irish folk rather than Americans. Would it be different if he were pictured grinning next to some PLO hoodlum?  --[[User:KeithJoseph|KeithJoseph]] 02:42, 8 November 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Tordenvaer (if that is your real name), I already HAVE called my member of Congress about the matter - I don't mess around!   The Sinn Feiners are a terrible organization with deep terrorist roots who killed many British soldiers and people over a hundred years in Ireland.   I'm as surprised as Keith is about the removal of his well-referenced material.   [[User:ArnieS|ArnieS]] 21:57, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Guys, grind your ax about Irish &amp;quot;terrorism&amp;quot; somewhere else.  Obama has no plausible connection with it and I'm not going to waste any more time on this silliness.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:01, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy, why do you place quote marks around the word terrorism? [[User:Ferret|-- Ferret]]  [[User talk:Ferret|&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;Nice old chat&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;]] 22:08, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;- I'm not going to get involved in any discussion here, but it appears a lot of you know a fair bit about [[Rita O'Hare]]. I have started her article, please contribute and spread your knowledge. [[User:NormanS|NormanS]] 22:13, 7 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: If the site administrator does not think this worthy of inclusion then there is no point arguing the case. But I must again ask -- the question is reiterated above by Ferret -- why this site puts inverted commas around terrorism when discussing the IRA, but not when discussing the Weather Underground. The slaughter of innocent Northern Irish people may seem &amp;quot;silly&amp;quot; to you. It does not to us. --[[User:KeithJoseph|KeithJoseph]] 12:36, 8 November 2008 (GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Could be because Irish terrorism was largely funded by US &amp;quot;Irish&amp;quot; Catholics? [[User:GeorgeK|GeorgeK]] 07:48, 8 November 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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