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Talk:Satan

2011-06-03T23:13:45Z

Webcomicwizard:

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== Satan reigning in Hell? ==

I realize this is a concept from Milton, but does anyone know if this is Biblical? The lake of fire was created for satan and his angels for his eternal punishment at the end of days. In Revelation he is thrown down from heaven and he is described as "the prince of this world" in the New Testament, but where does it state he reigns in hell?

Also, where is there a "divine council" of the angels where satan is present in the New Testament? If this is the case, then we should cite the place.

Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 23:39, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

I agree that the Bible implies that Satan is a prisoner in Hell along with the rest of the damned. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 23:41, 26 May 2007 (EDT)
:::I thought that the New Testament statement that was removed implied that he was referenced in the NT, not this divine council. But I didn't really read it so I may be wrong.[[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] [[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]] 00:31, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
::::I will correct accordingly, to make this more clear. Thanks [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:55, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Who tempted Jesus in the desert...? If Satan was indeed IMPRISONED in Hell, how did he tempt Jesus? "Get thee behind me!" Ring a bell? If you believe these things... [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 02:09, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

:That doesn't mean he reigns in hell, only that he still has freedom (although it may be limited). [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 02:11, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

::Enough freedom to render the the concept of imprisonment to be null and void. If he can come into our world and tempt The Christ, well, reallly, how does that fit imprisonment? Unless you wish to argue that it was in God's plan, but then, of course, you'd have to show me where that is written (I refer you to the Old Testament book of Job where The Lord makes plain that ot was His choice to let Satan test Job, so that I may set precedent). The point I was making is, Satan niether reigns over what we call "Hell" nor is he imprisoned in it. I could go furtherbut I'd be making this a philosophical and theological debate; one I would be severly chastised over at that...[[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 04:33, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

:::I'm afraid you may be confusing this issue. All we were discussing was whether or not he reigns in hell, not whether or not he is imprisoned. As the article had previously stated he reigned in hell, it was important to quickly discuss before removing. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 11:01, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

As we all know, there are differing views of the book of Revelation, but most agree that Satan is finally put in hell forever. The idea of Satan ruling hell right now works if you're the cartoonist for the Far Side, but it's not really the biblical view. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 04:38, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

:::(edit conflict) There are different interpretations depending upon which branch of hermeneutics and exegesis you support; the article appears to be in keeping with what might loosely be termed the majority opinion. [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] ([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]]) 04:39, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::Shoot, I think on this I'll go with Dante. At least his rendition is a little interesting. Lake of Ice > Lake of Fire.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 05:27, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::Yeah I'd have to agree with you there. Ice cold fits more with the absence of God's love than flame does. In my opinion. [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 02:50, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

:::::::Plus it is scarier if you think about it. Frozen in Lake of ice > Burning in lake of Fire. With Fire, there is just the pain, Ice has a whole psychological aspect heaped on top.--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 03:29, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

==Was he an angel?==

The [[Unification faith]] identifies Satan as the archangel [[Lucifer]]. Is this a common Christian belief? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 10:47, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== The origin of Satan's evil ==

Given that the universe did not originally contain any evil, and Satan was created by God, who, being all-knowing and all-powerful had the ability to create Satan in such a way that he would incapable of becoming evil, how did Satan become evil? Satan could not have had free will, given that he is part of a universe which is basically a machine proceeding from a beginning state to a predestined end state; however complicated the machine may be, its destiny is still known beforehand to an omniscient Being, and indeed is controlled beforehand by an omniscient and omnipotent Creator.

So, since everything that occurs, including Satan's fall, must be God's will, how then do we define evil? Satan's "evil" must be the same kind of "evil" that exists in, say, a computer game in which the creator has purposefully scripted evil doings and evil characters into the plot, and programmed them to occur under specific circumstances. As the program executes, the evil will inevitably transpire in accordance with the program; it cannot happen any other way. And there is no outside force that can act on the universe, other than God's, so there is no way God's will can be thwarted. And so we cannot define "evil" as being that which is against God's will. Unless of course, we presume the existence of a universe in which two contradictory things can be simultaneously true — i.e, that God's will can fulfilled at the same time as it isn't fulfilled. Contradictions are not impossible when one assumes the existence of a truly omnipotent being; in such a case, they become [[paradox]]es. [[User:Tisane|Tisane]] 20:22, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

:Knowledge has limitations so we have to assume much, faith guides us to the right answers. All was created good by a good God. Puny humans look at the Creator and say why do you allow evil? Humble servants know to ask the question differently. Why has God given us so much good? We are not deserving in our fallen nature, we have so much to be thankful for. Glorious mysteries... how, why, when may remain just that...a mystery. Don't under estimate free will. Satan chose, man chose. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 22:44, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

:Even logic has surprises. Faith and love would be less meaningful if they were not choices, and if some were unable to reject them. Order is meaningful because of the possibility of disorder. What God created is good, but it is also meaningful.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:52, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

== Is this serious? ==
Part of this article says you can fight Satan by calling him names or using sunlight.
Is this a joke?
Satan is like Dracula and gets his feelings hurt easily?
What is this based on?
Sounds like instructions from a computer game or something.
:Satans very prideful. calling him names is more likely to piss him off more. however he also cant stand light >.>--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 16:21, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
Seriously? Where are you getting this information from? I don't remember reading in the Bible that light keeps Satan away. If that was true, does standing in sunlight help keep you from sinning as Satan can't get at you?
I cant help but think this article has been hijacked as a parody.[[User:Webcomicwizard|Webcomicwizard]]

Web comic

2011-06-03T22:32:48Z

Webcomicwizard:

'''Web Comics''', also known as '''Online Comics''' or '''Webcomics''' are a form of comics that are started on the [[Internet]]. Many online comics are [[published]] exclusively online, while some are both in print and archived online. There are many different types of webcomics; some are created to be more like traditional comic strips, while others are created to be more like [[graphic novels]]. Popular webcomics include [[Day By Day]], [[Tales of the Questor]], and [[TheOrderOfTheStick]], [[MSPaint Adventures]] and [[Harkovast]]. Webcomics, like other comics, run the gamut from in depth story-based plots to talking stickfigures to random jokes every day to political analysis.

Most webcomics can be viewed free of charge. Webcomic creators still gain money off their work by selling printed versions of their webcomic, offering more content at a fee, selling merchandise, or simply asking for donations (sometimes donations are asked merely to pay for the site fees). Ads put on the webcomic's site also pull in some revenue.

With web comics, the restrictions of the traditional newspaper or magazine format can be lifted, which allows the [[artists]] to take advantage of the internet's unique capabilities, such as being able to draw and say anything they want without repercussion providing more freedom and creativity. Webcomic artists also are not confined size limitations. Some webcomics, such as those published by [[Scott McCloud]]<ref>http://www.scottmccloud.com/</ref>, have experimented with interactivity and animation in their comics. Most webcomics provide an archive for readers to look up any strip they wish.

== References ==
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[[category:comic Strips]]
[[category: internet]]

Web comic

2011-06-03T20:16:30Z

Webcomicwizard: changed link to a comic that actually has an article.

'''Web Comics''', also known as '''Online Comics''' or '''Webcomics''' are a form of comics that are started on the [[Internet]]. Many online comics are [[published]] exclusively online, while some are both in print and archived online. There are many different types of webcomics; some are created to be more like traditional comic strips, while others are created to be more like [[graphic novels]]. Popular webcomics include [[Day By Day]], [[Tales of the Questor]], and [[TheOrderOfTheStick]]. Webcomics, like other comics, run the gamut from in depth story-based plots to talking stickfigures to random jokes every day to political analysis.

Most webcomics can be viewed free of charge. Webcomic creators still gain money off their work by selling printed versions of their webcomic, offering more content at a fee, selling merchandise, or simply asking for donations (sometimes donations are asked merely to pay for the site fees). Ads put on the webcomic's site also pull in some revenue.

With web comics, the restrictions of the traditional newspaper or magazine format can be lifted, which allows the [[artists]] to take advantage of the internet's unique capabilities, such as being able to draw and say anything they want without repercussion providing more freedom and creativity. Webcomic artists also are not confined size limitations. Some webcomics, such as those published by [[Scott McCloud]]<ref>http://www.scottmccloud.com/</ref>, have experimented with interactivity and animation in their comics. Most webcomics provide an archive for readers to look up any strip they wish.

== References ==
<references/>

[[category:comic Strips]]
[[category: internet]]

Tales of the Questor

2011-06-03T20:14:15Z

Webcomicwizard: New page about a conservative web comic.

Is a conservative webcomic by R H Junior which tells the adventures of a talking Raccoon in a fantasy setting.
The comic has a strongly right wing, Christian message. Unusually for a fantasy comic, Tales of the Questor actively states that there is no such thing as magic (since this goes against the authors biblical beliefs.)
The comic is also highly critical of pagan religious belief systems, big government and liberal education.

== Eternal Links ==
* [http://www.rhjunior.com/totq/ The comic itself.]

Talk:Satan

2011-06-03T20:00:16Z

Webcomicwizard:

User:Webcomicwizard

2011-06-03T19:44:36Z

Webcomicwizard: Created page with "Alright, here we go. Time to start contributing!"

Alright, here we go.
Time to start contributing!