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<div>'''Pope Pius XII''' (March 2, 1876 – October 9, 1958), was the 260th [[pope]] of the [[Roman Catholic]] Church. He served from March 2, 1939 until his death. He was proceeded by [[Pius XI]], and succeeded by [[John XXIII]].<br />
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[[Category:Popes|Gregory VII, Pope]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Toothpaste&diff=308292Toothpaste2007-10-04T18:21:59Z<p>PeteVan: spelling...</p>
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<div>'''Toothpaste''' is a product that is used to clean the [[teeth]] as well as the [[gums]] and can also be used on the [[tongue]]. Some earlier teeth cleaning solutions from historical times would not be palatable today. Toothpaste is usually applied with a [[toothbrush]].<br />
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[[Category: Hygiene]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Affirmative_Action&diff=308289Affirmative Action2007-10-04T18:18:48Z<p>PeteVan: ...to...</p>
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<div>'''Affirmative action''' refers to policies proposed as remedies for the historical effects of race or sex discrimination.<br />
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The original concept of affirmative action was that it is desirable to not merely act on non-discrimination passively (i.e., saying "this job is open to any applicant", but then making no efforts to find minority applicants), but should also be done ''affirmatively'', by taking definite actions to find applicants from minorities.<br />
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This would be, in its way, admirable. However, in current use, affirmative action goes beyond this, often mandating the use of quotas for setting aside jobs or a portion of college entrance positions for each minority (including also some "minorities" which are actually majorities). In effect, this means selecting applicants by the color of their skin, precisely what the original concept of non-discrimination forbids. This is sometimes called "reverse discrimination," although this term is rather contradictory - discrimination remains discrimination.<br />
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Regents v. Bakke effectively outlawed this "sometimes called 'reverse discrimination.'"<br />
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[[Dinesh D'Souza]] wrote:<br />
:Many whites have become increasingly scornful of black demands, and vehemently reject racial preferences. Most blacks, by contrast, support affirmative action as indispensable to fighting the enduring effects of white racism. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/endofrac.htm]<br />
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Supreme Court Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] opposes "affirmative action" because it elevates blacks to a higher strata than they can thrive in and gives whites reason to continue to believe blacks are inferior.<br />
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*[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/endofrac.htm] The End of Racism: The White Man's Burden - Dinesh D'Souza<br />
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[[Category:United States law]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexual_discrimination&diff=308288Sexual discrimination2007-10-04T18:16:57Z<p>PeteVan: grammar/spelling</p>
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<div>'''Sexual Discrimination''' is maltreatment or disparagement of one sex by the other, or of special preferential treatment given to one. <br />
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== Allegations of Sexism against Men ==<br />
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=== Women-only Accommodations ===<br />
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"Women-only coaches" are becoming increasingly common in large cities in Japan, Brazil, and Phillipines. While proponents of these coaches say they are an effort to prevent rampant sexual harassment on trains <ref>64% of Tokyo women stated that they had been groped in trains.[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article394630.ece]</ref><ref>http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?aid=2750</ref>, others believe that this [[segregation]] is an instance of sexism against men. Similar female-only accommodations are institutionalized in Muslim countries such as [[Saudi Arabia]].<br />
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In Britain there are ''women-only library sessions'', ''women-only swimming sessions'' in public swimming baths and ''women-only gyms''. Feminists do not protest against any of these women-only spaces, but they have campaigned to remove ''men-only spaces'' such as ''gentlemen's clubs'' in London, and ''working men's clubs'' elsewhere in Britain. Feminists have also campaigned to allow women join ''sports clubs'' that were previously men-only such as ''golf clubs'' and ''golf tournaments'' ''(but not to allow men into the equivalent female-only clubs)''.<br />
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In some countries, if a rest room for women in department stores or movie houses etc. are full, a woman is allowed to use one for men. ''But not vice versa.''<br />
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=== Affirmative Action === <br />
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Some allege that [[affirmative action]] is sexism against men, because it gives advantages to equally or even less qualified women. They point to:<br />
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Norwegian Companies: The 500 companies listed on Norway's stock exchange face being shut down unless they install at least 40% women on their boards over the next two years. <ref>http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1682083,00.html</ref><br />
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Russian Police set up Women-only Unit: Mikhail Tsukruk, the police chief in the southern Russian city of Volgograd, has set up the first women-only traffic police unit saying that 'research' [no details given] showed that women are less inclined to accept bribes. <ref>http://www.feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9849</ref><br />
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[[category:sociology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hospice&diff=306949Hospice2007-10-03T02:53:53Z<p>PeteVan: not just old folks</p>
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<div>Hospice care refers to a service offered by [[health care]] professionals to patients nearing the end of life. Hospice care is not used to ward death or prolong life, but rather to provide for maximum comfort for the patient.<br />
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[[category:medicine]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Alan_Simpson&diff=306947Talk:Alan Simpson2007-10-03T02:50:16Z<p>PeteVan: a liberal education?</p>
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<div>==A Liberal Education==<br />
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Uh, due respect: In that quote, Simpson wasn't using "liberal" to mean politically left, he was using it in the classical sense of a broad/general education. (ie, "liberal arts--college or university curriculum aimed at imparting general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities, in contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum." [definition courtesy of Encyclopedia Britannica]).--[[User:PeteVan|PeteVan]] 22:50, 2 October 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Knights_of_Columbus&diff=306925Knights of Columbus2007-10-03T02:17:27Z<p>PeteVan: grammar</p>
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<div>The '''Knights of Columbus''' is a [[Roman Catholic]] [[fraternal organization]] founded by Father Michael J. McGivney. It provided an alternative to other fraternal organizations, such as [[Freemasonry]], which were closed to Catholics.<br />
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:Heh heh thanks :) Again, I wasn't trying to criticize you or anything, just wanted to let you know. As you can see from my userpage, MoS compliancy is one of my current projects, but you know the whole "teach a man to fish" adage... [[User:HelpJazz|HelpJazz]] 13:54, 18 September 2007 (EDT)<br />
::No, no--I didn't take it as criticism at all. Indeed, I appreciate the heads up. The whole wiki thing is still new to me.--[[User:PeteVan|PeteVan]] 14:08, 18 September 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=National_Science_Foundation&diff=295465National Science Foundation2007-09-18T18:06:25Z<p>PeteVan: stylin'</p>
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<div>The '''National Science Foundation''' (NSF) is an independent US government agency responsible for promoting [[science]] and [[engineering]] through research programs and education projects.<br />
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[[category:United States Government]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=W.E.B._DuBois&diff=295463W.E.B. DuBois2007-09-18T18:01:17Z<p>PeteVan: Stylin'</p>
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<div>'''William Edward Burghardt Du Bois''' (February 23, 1868 – August 27, 1963) was a prominent American civil rights activist and leader.<br />
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[[Category:Political people]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hugo_Black&diff=295451Hugo Black2007-09-18T17:55:18Z<p>PeteVan: Stylin'</p>
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<div>'''Hugo LaFayette Black''' (February 27, 1886–September 25, 1971) was an Associate Justice of the [[Supreme Court of the United States]]. Appointed by [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], he served from August 19, 1937 – September 17, 1971.<br />
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[[category:United States Supreme Court]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Blackmun&diff=295448Harry Blackmun2007-09-18T17:54:27Z<p>PeteVan: Stylin'</p>
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<div>'''Harry Andrew Blackmun''' (November 12, 1908 – March 4, 1999) was an Associate Justice of the [[Supreme Court of the United States]]. Serving from June 9, 1970 – August 4, 1994, he is most notorious as the author of the majority opinion in the 1973 [[Roe v. Wade]] decision legalizing [[abortion]] in the United States.<br />
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[[category:United States Supreme Court]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=William_Brennan&diff=295447William Brennan2007-09-18T17:52:59Z<p>PeteVan: Stylin'</p>
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<div>'''William Joseph Brennan, Jr.''' (April 25, 1906 – July 24, 1997) was an Associate Justice of the [[Supreme Court of the United States]]. Serving from October 16, 1956 - July 20, 1990, he was known for his extreme [[liberal]] views.<br />
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[[category:United States Supreme Court]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:HelpJazz&diff=295446User talk:HelpJazz2007-09-18T17:50:23Z<p>PeteVan: tips greatly appreciated...</p>
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<div>The National Science Foundation (NSF) is an independent US government agency responsible for promoting science and engineering through research programs and education projects.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=W.E.B._DuBois&diff=295442W.E.B. DuBois2007-09-18T17:40:49Z<p>PeteVan: another most wanted</p>
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<div>William Edward Burghardt Du Bois (February 23, 1868 – August 27, 1963) was a prominent American civil rights activist and leader.<br />
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Long suspected of being a [[Communist]], in 1961 he publicly joined the [[Communist Party of the United States of America]].</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hugo_Black&diff=295439Hugo Black2007-09-18T17:29:09Z<p>PeteVan: another "most wanted"</p>
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<div>Hugo LaFayette Black (February 27, 1886–September 25, 1971) was an Associate Justice of the [[Supreme Court of the United States]]. Appointed by [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], he served from August 19, 1937 – September 17, 1971.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Blackmun&diff=295438Harry Blackmun2007-09-18T17:23:30Z<p>PeteVan: "most wanted"</p>
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<div>Harry Andrew Blackmun (November 12, 1908 – March 4, 1999) was an Associate Justice of the [[Supreme Court of the United States]]. Serving from June 9, 1970 – August 4, 1994, he is most notorious as the author of the majority opinion in the 1973 [[Roe v. Wade]] decision legalizing [[abortion]] in the United States.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=William_Brennan&diff=295436William Brennan2007-09-18T17:19:19Z<p>PeteVan: oops--fixing formatting</p>
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<div>William Joseph Brennan, Jr. (April 25, 1906 – July 24, 1997) was an Associate Justice of the [Supreme Court of the United States]. Serving from October 16, 1956 - July 20, 1990, he was known for his extreme [liberal] views.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:Liberal_Intellectualism&diff=290063Essay:Liberal Intellectualism2007-09-10T18:21:20Z<p>PeteVan: Foucault...</p>
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<div>{{Essay}}<br />
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It is interesting to observe how the [[liberal]] ideology, and [[liberal]] arguments, appeal most to educated, informed persons who are short on intellectual achievements of their own. Put another way, the biggest advocates of [[liberal]] arguments are the intellectual wannabees or pseudo-intellectuals.<br />
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Examples of not-quite-intellectuals who promote [[liberal]] arguments include:<br />
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*[[John Kerry]]<br />
:*privileged youth, weak student at [[Yale]], no original work<br />
*[[Al Gore]]<br />
:*privileged youth, poor graduate student, tried to claim credit for the [[internet]]<br />
*[[Bill Clinton]]<br />
:*may have virtually flunked out of the pre-med program at [[Georgetown]], never released his grades, failed to earn a degree at [[Oxford]], no original work or ideas<br />
*[[Richard Dawkins]]<br />
:*unsuccessful in obtaining a doctorate, lasted only 2 years teaching at [[Berkeley]], a mere lecturer at [[Oxford]] until a wealthy ally donated a professorship for him<br />
*[[Stephen Jay Gould]]<br />
:*[[Antioch College]] graduate (geology major), his work is riddled with contradictions<br />
*[[Laurence Tribe]]<br />
:*dropped out of a graduate math program, passed over initially for Law Review, passed over for [[Solicitor General]] in 1993,<ref>Tribe admitted he was being considered, but he was not nominated. "Under Clinton, Crimson tide washes over Washington," The Boston Globe (Mar. 4, 1993).</ref> plagiarism later found in his work<ref>"Joseph Bottum, books and arts editor of the Weekly Standard, presents overwhelming evidence to support his claim that Tribe's 1985 book, God Save This Honorable Court, was largely copied from a 1974 book called Justices and Presidents by the University of Virginia's Henry J. Abraham. Bottum's case rests on the relentless citation of example after example where it is clear that Tribe has copied both the substance and, in many cases, the exact wording of Abraham's text. Most damning is Tribe's repetition of errors, like slight misquotations of original sources, in Abraham's book."[http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007975.php]</ref><br />
*[[Robert McNamara]]<br />
:*described as a "whiz kid," he wrote or did nothing of significance, mishandled [[Vietnam War]]<br />
*[[Henry Kissinger]]<br />
:*speaks very few languages well for a diplomat, had no insights or noteworthy work, mishandled [[Vietnam War]] and [[Soviet Union]]<br />
*[[J. Robert Oppenheimer]]<br />
:*repeatedly passed over for the [[Nobel Prize]] due to a lack of achievement, allowed multiple leaks from [[Los Alamos]]<br />
*[[Jon Stewart]]<br />
*[[Noam Chomsky]]<br />
:*famous for making a few guesses about [[linguistics]] some of which turned out to be partially correct. He has not done any work in linguistics in 30 years and just spends his time promoting left-wing politics outside his supposed area of expertise. <br />
*[[John Maynard Keynes]]<br />
:*dropped out of [[math]] to pursue the less rigorous [[economics]], but was unable to earn a doctorate even in that<br />
*[[Linus Pauling]]<br />
:*Did not receive his high school diploma until he was 61 years old. His later work on vitamin C was considered unscientific and outright quackery.<br />
*[[Gandhi]]<br />
*[[Michel Foucault]]<br />
:*admitted his work was strongly influenced by the works of Karl Marx. Homosexual. Advocated the elimination of France's "age of consent" prohibitions.<br />
*[[Rachel Carson]]<br />
*[[Bertrand Russell]]<br />
:*claimed to be proving the completeness and consistency of math, a goal [[Godel]] proved was impossible. Advocated unilateral nuclear disarmament. <br />
*[[Ward Churchill]]<br />
:Offended millions of Americans by comparing those that died in 9/11 to Adolf Eichmann, notorious organizer of the [[Holocaust]]. Had the gall to sue the University that terminated him.<ref>http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Jul25/0,4670,EmbattledProfessor,00.html</ref><br />
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== Praised Heaped by Pseudo-Intellectual [[Liberals]] on Each Other ==<br />
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It is remarkable how pseudo-intellectual [[liberal]]s praise each other as geniuses. Examples include:<br />
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*[[Bertrand Russell]] declaring that the most intelligent man he ever knew was [[John Maynard Keynes]]<br />
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== Motivation ==<br />
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There are two primary motivations for the [[liberal]] advocacy by pseudo-intellectuals:<br />
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* it is easier for them to obtain acclaim from the liberal press than from real intellectuals<br />
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* they genuinely fail to understand certain abstractions, such as:<br />
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:* how cutting taxes often increases government revenue ([[Laffer Curve]])<br />
:* how guns save more lives through deterrence and prevention than they harm<br />
:* how childbirth has a positive effect on health, and thus [[abortion]] harms health<br />
:* how cease-fires always help a determined opponent in war<br />
:* how arms limitations treaties always helps a dishonest adversary<br />
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* they expect superficial, flawed logic to persuade others, such as:<br />
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:* claiming that inequality in outcome implies discrimination<br />
:* demanding equal treatment for genders in all situations<br />
:* claiming that the [[gay agenda]] is like the civil rights struggle by African Americans<br />
:* insisting that government can reduce poverty with more programs<br />
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Please add to these lists.<br />
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[[Category:Essay]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:Liberal_Intellectualism&diff=288399Essay:Liberal Intellectualism2007-09-08T00:58:24Z<p>PeteVan: Pauling the quack</p>
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<div>{{Essay}}<br />
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It is interesting to observe how the [[liberal]] ideology, and [[liberal]] arguments, appeal most to educated, informed persons who are short on intellectual achievements of their own. Put another way, the biggest advocates of [[liberal]] arguments are the intellectual wannabees or pseudo-intellectuals.<br />
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Examples of not-quite-intellectuals who promote [[liberal]] arguments include:<br />
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*[[John Kerry]]<br />
:*privileged youth, weak student at [[Yale]], no original work<br />
*[[Al Gore]]<br />
:*privileged youth, poor graduate student, tried to claim credit for the [[internet]]<br />
*[[Bill Clinton]]<br />
:*may have virtually flunked out of the pre-med program at [[Georgetown]], never released his grades, failed to earn a degree at [[Oxford]], no original work or ideas<br />
*[[Richard Dawkins]]<br />
:*unsuccessful in obtaining a doctorate, lasted only 2 years teaching at [[Berkeley]], a mere lecturer at [[Oxford]] until a wealthy ally donated a professorship for him<br />
*[[Stephen Jay Gould]]<br />
:*[[Antioch College]] graduate (geology major), his work is riddled with contradictions<br />
*[[Laurence Tribe]]<br />
:*dropped out of a graduate math program, passed over initially for Law Review, passed over for [[Solicitor General]] in 1993,<ref>Tribe admitted he was being considered, but he was not nominated. "Under Clinton, Crimson tide washes over Washington," The Boston Globe (Mar. 4, 1993).</ref> plagiarism later found in his work<ref>"Joseph Bottum, books and arts editor of the Weekly Standard, presents overwhelming evidence to support his claim that Tribe's 1985 book, God Save This Honorable Court, was largely copied from a 1974 book called Justices and Presidents by the University of Virginia's Henry J. Abraham. Bottum's case rests on the relentless citation of example after example where it is clear that Tribe has copied both the substance and, in many cases, the exact wording of Abraham's text. Most damning is Tribe's repetition of errors, like slight misquotations of original sources, in Abraham's book."[http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007975.php]</ref><br />
*[[Robert McNamara]]<br />
:*described as a "whiz kid," he wrote or did nothing of significance, mishandled [[Vietnam War]]<br />
*[[Henry Kissinger]]<br />
:*speaks very few languages well for a diplomat, had no insights or noteworthy work, mishandled [[Vietnam War]] and [[Soviet Union]]<br />
*[[J. Robert Oppenheimer]]<br />
:*repeatedly passed over for the [[Nobel Prize]] due to a lack of achievement, allowed multiple leaks from [[Los Alamos]]<br />
*[[Jon Stewart]]<br />
*[[Noam Chomsky]]<br />
:*famous for making a few guesses about [[linguistics]] some of which turned out to be partially correct. He has not done any work in linguistics in 30 years and just spends his time promoting left-wing politics outside his supposed area of expertise. <br />
*[[John Maynard Keynes]]<br />
:*dropped out of [[math]] to pursue the less rigorous [[economics]], but was unable to earn a doctorate even in that<br />
*[[Linus Pauling]]<br />
:*Did not receive his high school diploma until he was 61 years old. His later work on vitamin C was considered unscientific and outright quackery.<br />
*[[Gandhi]]<br />
*[[Michel Foucault]]<br />
*[[Rachel Carson]]<br />
*[[Bertrand Russell]]<br />
:*claimed to be proving the completeness and consistency of math, a goal [[Godel]] proved was impossible. Advocated unilateral nuclear disarmament. <br />
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Please add other examples.<br />
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== Praised Heaped by Pseudo-Intellectual [[Liberals]] on Each Other ==<br />
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It is remarkable how pseudo-intellectual [[liberal]]s praise each other as geniuses. Examples include:<br />
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*[[Bertrand Russell]] declaring that the most intelligent man he ever knew was [[John Maynard Keynes]]<br />
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Please add other examples.<br />
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== Motivation ==<br />
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There are two primary motivations for the [[liberal]] advocacy by pseudo-intellectuals:<br />
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* it is easier for them to obtain acclaim from the liberal press than from real intellectuals<br />
<br />
* they genuinely fail to understand certain abstractions, such as:<br />
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:* how cutting taxes often increases government revenue ([[Laffer Curve]])<br />
:* how guns save more lives through deterrence and prevention than they harm<br />
:* how childbirth has a positive effect on health, and thus [[abortion]] harms health<br />
:* how cease-fires always help a determined opponent in war<br />
:* how arms limitations treaties always helps a dishonest adversary<br />
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* they expect superficial, flawed logic to persuade others, such as:<br />
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:* claiming that inequality in outcome implies discrimination<br />
:* demanding equal treatment for genders in all situations<br />
:* claiming that the [[gay agenda]] is like the civil rights struggle by African Americans<br />
:* insisting that government can reduce poverty with more programs<br />
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Please add to these lists.<br />
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== References ==<br />
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[[Category:Essay]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Movies&diff=249844Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies2007-07-25T18:33:34Z<p>PeteVan: FG the Conservative</p>
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<div>I'm just curious how $139m [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/business] can be considered "low-budget". --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 15:41, 18 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: $139M in production costs is pocket change these days, Hoji!<br />
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: I think Spider-Man is in the top 5, and maybe the top 2, in profitability. It's #7 in domestic revenue, having a much lower production cost than other top movies. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:20, 19 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Hmm... out of curiosity, I went and looked at the budgets of some recently-made major motion pictures. ''Transformers'' had a budget of $147m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/business]. ''Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'' (which is a great movie, by the way) had a budget of $150m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373889/business]. ''Ocean's Twelve'' had a budget of $110m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349903/business]. The latest Bond movie (''Casino Royale'') had a budget of $150m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/business]. A movie I would consider "Low-budget" is something like ''Sicko'' (not to be partisan or anything), which had a budget of just $9m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386032/business], or ''Crash'' (which is easily the ''best'' movie I have ever seen), which had a budget of only $6.5m[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0375679/business]. I just find it a bit odd to call a budget of over $100m a "low-budget" movie. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 01:03, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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This is about the "greatest" conservative movies, not a list of all conservative movies. I've never heard about that movie before seeing it on this list, and I would hate to think that Michael Moore can cause the production of anything great. As such, I'm removing the movie from this list. --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:47, 19 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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If you've never seen it, how can you make a judgment about how good it is? [[User:DanH|DanH]] 19:50, 19 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::I agree with LiteratiChamp. The film is a response to Michael Moore's Farenhiet 911. One of the measures of a good film (in my opinion) is staying power. Moore's film was a political piece that may have spoke to some people in the 2004 election year. Twenty years from now, even ten, it will be little more than a curiousity, and so will Farenhype. At best, they may be remembered as the pioneers of a new film genre, the political screed, but I hope not.--[[User:Eddiec|Eddiec]] 11:49, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Forrest Gump ==<br />
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National Review is clueless. Forrest Gump, featuring [[liberal]] Tom Hanks, is liberal claptrap.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:19, 19 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:If the National Review is clueless, why is one of their articles currently featured on the Main Page?--[[User:Conservateur|Conservateur]] 15:37, 23 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:But it's a ''great'' movie. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 01:04, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I won't pretend for a second that it's conservative, but it's one of my favorite movies of all time. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 01:06, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: I'm glad you liked it, Hoji, and I admit that I couldn't bear watching it to the end. It was a huge popular hit. But what I did see ''was'' very [[liberal]], almost like a liberal fantasy tale. So much sermonizing about civil rights by ... a white man???--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:09, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::What do you think about Saving Private Ryan? I was going to add it to the list with the caption "The actions our military will take to save an imperiled comrade". Maybe without the word "comrade", since it's inherently un-conservative sounding.<br />
::And as for Forrest... he's a retard! (proud of my un-PC statement!) --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 01:14, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::: I didn't see Saving Private Ryan, but I suspect that is liberal also. The quotes and clips I saw from it had the trappings of liberalism: faithless with a kind of dumbed-down "that's all there is to life" approach. Woe is me and my brothers will be my salvation. "At death there's nothing more" is the message, expect (if you're lucky) some spirit of brotherhood.<br />
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::: Tom Hanks is a liberal, big time. Seeing the world through the atheistic eyes of a "retard", with sermonizing about civil rights, was a liberal distortion and fantasy. I'm sure we all know people of low IQs, and they don't think and act like Forrest Gump. For starters, often they have strong religious faith. As I recall from the first half, Gump's perspective was without any genuine expression of faith.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:34, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::I don't like Tom Hanks. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]]<br />
::::: You're right, Andy - most of the dense folk I know (mostly from school) would fit in perfectly with the norm here at CP. I would strongly suggest that you see SPR, though - if you can see past whatever trappings of liberalism there may be (though I may have just not have noticed them), it's a wonderfully epic war novel, brilliantly done. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 01:38, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Save me the trouble, Hoji, by telling me how much [[faith]] is highlighted in the movie. Less than zero?<br />
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:::: Just as [[liberals]] don't understand mentally disabled people, [[liberals]] don't understand soldiers either. At least [[Kurt Vonnegut]] did, and he observed that there are no atheists in foxholes. I doubt Tom Hanks (who is about as far from a real soldier as you can find) understands that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:44, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::::: The KV bit is a misrepresentation and an example of quote mining. See the talk page of his article for why -- in short you're taking a quote from a ''character'' in a work of fiction, Slaughterhouse Five, out of context. His last novel "Time Quake," does contain some "Christian friendly" passages where Vonnegut indicates that he does not question the faith of individuals because it would be "impolite." [[User:Dkips|Dkips]] 11:41, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::: Like ''any'' movie producer, liberal or conservative, can understand soldiers? That sounds like a fairy tale. And I would hate my movie viewing to be so... politicized, as yours is, Andy. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 01:52, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::::: Hoji, I'm not the one who politicized Hollywood. Movies convey messages, and those messages often have a political spin. It's fair to ask how much [[faith]] is highlighted in a movie about war. Given the [[liberals]] who did Saving Private Ryan, I would guess the answer is zero. Am I right? Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:28, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::::::: I can't recall the characters name, but Barry Pepper plays an American sniper who frequently prays before and during combat. There are also chaplain's on the beach in the beginning of the movie praying with the wounded and dying. There might be other aspects, this is just what I recall off the top of my head. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 09:39, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::::::There are instances of faith in SPR, as noted by Colest above. I would also point out that family is also highlighted. First in the deaths of Pvt. Ryan's brothers and the emphasis on getting him out of harm's way. Hank's character talks about family and trying to remember home, and the GI's want to win the war so they can go home. I find it strange that one would say Hanks (or any other actor) is "as far from a real soldier as you can find." Of course they are. It is after all, called "acting." I really think only people with a military background understand soldiers or Marines. As for Hanks being liberal, so what? He is an actor, he goes by the script he is given. By the way, it seems the army was pleased with Hanks' portrayal of a Ranger [http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-06-29-hanks-ranger_x.htm], and the DOD honored Spielberg [http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/spielberg_update_811.html]. I should also point out that both Hanks and Spielberg contributed to the D-Day museum [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/154854.stm]. Not bad for a pair of liberals, eh? Of course, this thread has been very instructive. I learned that persons with "low IQs" tend to be religious. Why am I not surprised?--[[User:Eddiec|Eddiec]] 11:13, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::::::::: Eddiec, let me guess, you're a liberal too. Gee, how could I tell? Maybe your mockery of the mentally disabled was the clincher. Liberals like to act smarter than others, with little justification for it.<br />
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:::::::::: Based on the discussion above, it appears that the Saving Private Ryan hero (Hanks) never conveys the --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:23, 20 July 2007 (EDT)faith of the person he portrays. So my expectation was correct. [[Faith]] is relegated to a little window-dressing, something to give the movie an appearance of depth, but not fit for the hero himself.<br />
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:::::::::: Did Hanks and Spielberg, two liberals probably lacking in any experience with the military or genuine interest in it, convey the soldiers' true feelings and attitudes? Not in the clip I saw from the movie. Instead, they conveyed a mostly purposeless, atheistic view of war, with overemphasis on the casualties. It's a liberal message.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:23, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::::::I never said you politicized Hollywood, Andy. I said I would hate to have ''my'' viewing so politically inspired. I've seen most of the movies on that list, and loved them. Perhaps it's because I didn't actively search for political allegory, but tried to enjoy the message. --<font color="#0000CC" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Hojimachong|'''ηοξιμαχονγ''']]</font><sup><font color="00FFAA">[[User_Talk:Hojimachong|θαλκ]]</font></sup> 11:02, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::::::: Hoji, I'm glad you liked the movies. But there's nothing wrong with examining their message. I love Haagen-Daz ice cream. But I didn't object when someone told me that it is twice as fatty as Breyer's ice cream. We welcome information about the content of the food we eat. Why the resistance to analyzing the content of the films we view?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:29, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::::::::: Did you really just bastardize this "conversation" with an ice-cream metaphor? Seriously? --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:04, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::::::: Purely by coincidence, I just noticed an [[FCC]] decision discussing how "Saving Private Ryan is filled with expletives and material arguably unsuitable for some audiences." 20 FCC Rcd 4507. That isn't why I objected to it, but I'm not surprised given the [[liberals]] who made the movie. It's a bit like learning that alcohol consumption is harmful to more than just one's liver. This is hardly a surprise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:26, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Let’s start with what it isn’t. It’s not about men with bulging biceps and even bigger guns. It’s not cartoonish action heroes. It isn’t revenge tales masquerading as heroism.<br />
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Conservative cinema does more than entertain; movies that do no more are visual candy. It '''instructs and inspires.'''<br />
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Conservative films celebrate virtue. They tell timeless tales of individuals overcoming all manner of adversity to achieve true greatness. They’re about honesty, loyalty, courage and patriotism. They’re concerned with conservatism’s cardinal values – '''faith, family and freedom.'''" [http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20714]<br />
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While its easy enough to decide what a conservative movie ''should'' be, it is far more difficult to find a movie that meets these requirements, particularly in the last 20 years: big budgets = dumbing down to mass market appeal. I would probably add to the list "Cinderella Man", [http://www.filmsite.org/schi.html "Schindler's List"], [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,979892,00.html "Shadowlands"], "A Bridge Too Far", "12 Angry Men", "The Robe" and "Henry V" (Olivier ''or'' Branagh) [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 05:29, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Interesting, Fox. Thanks. But I would question your selection at the end. "12 Angry Men", for example, is one of my all-time favorite movies, but I would not call it conservative.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:28, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::For me, "12 Angry Men" met the criteria of being "instructive" - in the nature of men and their motivations, and it was also "inspirational" in that it showed that through reasoned debate and persistence, the right outcome could be achieved. For the other qualities in the definition I posted, it does portray "honesty" - even when that is only the acceptance of one's own faults and failings: although we never learn of Fonda's faults, the eleven others all have to face, and admit, their failings. "Loyalty" is demonstrated when, having changed their decisions, the majority attempt to dissuade them, quite aggressively, even attempting to turn them against each other, but they rally to Fonda's central flag and support each other. "Courage", particularly for the first couple of dissenters, in the face of the hostility from the rest of the jury, to stand by their convictions. "Patriotism" because of the sense of "duty" and the promotion of the idea that acting as public servants in that way should be considered an honorable and serious business. Just my 2 cents :) [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 09:47, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::I've seen both versions of "[[12 Angry men]]". What I liked about them both (especially the [[Henry Fonda]] version was the relentless pursuit of principle by the holdout juror. He exalts the legal principle of "[[innocent until proven guilty]]" and provides a concrete example of what "[[reasonable doubt]]" means.<br />
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:::If you are ever accused falsely of a crime, you'll wish for a jury composed of men like the Henry Fonda character. But the real question is whether protection of "rights" is essentially a conservative value. in the case of suspected terrorists, I would say not. Liberals are far more concerned with a few cases of [[coercive interrogation]] by the CIA or "frat pranks" by poorly trained National Guardswomen. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:49, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I've only seen the 1957 Lumet/Fonda movie, although I'd like to see the '97 Jack Lemmon version, purely for comparison. It looks to have some very good character-actors; although I think that many of the earlier versions of modern remakes are superior simply by virtue of the technological limitations of the day forcing better directing, acting and cinematography. Incidentally, I just noticed that the 1942 book "The Robe" is now on [http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks04/0400561h.html Project Gutenberg]; I haven't read it, so I shall be doing that this weekend while most everyone else reads the new Harry Potter :D [[Image:User Fox.png]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 16:14, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Sen. Tom Coburn objected to Schindler's List for content, incidentally, which is on our list. He was attacked vociferously for doing so, and ended up retracting his statement. It is a fairly graphic R rated movie. My question is, how much are we considering that. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:38, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Not suprising, since it was directed by the same liberal monster who directed Saving Private Ryan. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 16:42, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:: Your silly sarcasm aside, [[liberals]] do have a love for airing profanity, and in objecting even to its removal from general broadcast. Spielberg seemed to enjoy inserting dirty words into unexpected places in children's movies, such as E.T. Saving Private Ryan was filled with one four-letter-word after another. Maybe you can explain that obsession better than I can.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:01, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::: In the case of SPR, I think he was using realistic language that soldiers use. The same goes for the violence of the movie, he wasn't trying to pull any punches and shield the audience from the grotesque realities of a war zone. I don't think that constitutes an obsession. I was actually shocked by the decision (I can't recall the network) to air it uncensored, and would hope that responsible parents would not allow their children to have watched it. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 17:18, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::: ABC aired the movie uncut, with constant profanity from beginning to end. While the profanity may be realistic, where is the other realism, such as the hero attending church, packing a Bible, discussing his faith, and praying? That realism was omitted. So one can't justify by the movie's slant simply by saying it is realistic.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:30, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'm staying out of the SPR debate, but for anyone interested I would like to suggest [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373283/ Saints and Soldiers] as a WWII movie that is definitely faith-promoting. It has a similar feel to SPR (small group of soldiers behind enemy lines on a mission), but it's only rated PG-13, which keeps things fairly tame (although it is still a war movie, so I certainly wouldn't watch it with children). One of the main characters is very religious (rumored to be Mormon, but the movie doesn't say that explicitly or push it in your face), and his faith is obvious throughout the movie. The movie itself is largely about forgiveness, both of oneself and of others. [[User:Jinkas|Jinkas]] 17:24, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Excellent comments Fox, which is why I purposely refrained from adding movies like ''Rambo'' and the like to the list. Conservatism is not about shooting the bad guys, masculine action movies, nor even about political party affiliation. Instead, conservatism is a set of values: values which uphold and celebrate tradition, instead of attacking it; look to the tried and true from the past as a source of values to be emulated, even if they aren't currently fashionable; and emphasizing the importance and centrality of culture, instead of pretending culture is a "social construct" or something to be attacked. The opposite of conservatism is cultural nihilism, which these days takes such forms as political correctness, postmodernism, radical feminism, and multiculturalism. Since the 1970s, economic based attacks on Western society like Marxism-Leninism have all but given way to a nihilistic, postmodernist, culture based attack on traditional values. A good conservative film is not just a superficial good guys-vs-bad guys movie, but stirs the soul in a way that leads the viewer to want to recover that which has been lost and defend traditional culture, and is refreshing to watch because of the way it upholds these values instead of attacking or poking fun at them. ''Red Dawn'' and Mel Gibson's ''The Patriot'' are two of the best I have seen in this regard. As for ''Forrest Gump'' -- I like that movie but am not sure it qualifies as conservative, liberal, or anything else. I know Pat Buchanan praised it when it came out as a conservative film. But I don't really see it. Seems a values-neutral portrayal of the changes that took place during the 60s and 70s and doesn't particularly take a stand one way or the other, not least taking a stand that those changes were, on the whole, <i>a bad thing</i>. So I wouldn't list it as a conservative movie. [[User:Parrothead|Parrothead]] 17:45, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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''Forrest Gump'' is a vile film: anti-intellectual and jingoistic. Any character who displays the least trace of independent thought, or dares question the American dream, winds up crushed and miserable. Ignorance as virtue, and I've rarely seen such an airbrushed Vietnam. If you're really looking for something that "stirs the soul," I suggest you all watch ''Seven Samurai'' till your eyes bleed. [[User:PBRStreetgang|PBRStreetgang]] 18:06, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Don't know about the jingoism criticism. But the anti-intellectual criticism is right on target. It reminds me of all the anti-intellectual user ids on Wikipedia. Dumbing down should not be funny or entertaining, at least not to people who should know better.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:14, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Comment: Independent thought does not conflict with conservatism at all, especially not in today's era of enforced conformity to political correctness. Nor, for that matter, does questioning the "American dream", to the extent that the "American dream" is rooted in dumbed-down mass entertainment and globalized consumerism. [[User:Parrothead|Parrothead]] 19:00, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Regarding Forrest Gump, according to the [http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Forrest-Gump.html script], Gump made reference to his religious beliefs a number of times. Some quotes: "I couldn't tell where heavens stopped and the earth began. It was so beautiful." | "Her Momma had gone up to heaven when she was five and her daddy was some kind of a farmer." | "I'm going to heaven, Lieutenant Dan." | "So I went to church every Sunday...". The movie even features Lt. Dan's struggle with his own faith, including a scene where he challenges God to destroy the boat that him and Gump are on. Dan eventually recovered from that dark period in his life, and it is suggested that it was faith that guided him (see scene with Dan in church). Gump also made a large donation to a church. The movie features many Christian themes, such as love, faith, and sacrifice. - [[User:Borofkin2|Borofkin2]] 21:09, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: This is tricky, because Gump is an idiot. I can't tell from the quoted excerpts if the movie is mocking religion or not. Maybe I need to watch the whole movie. However, I tried that once and for reasons already explained (including its anti-intellectualism and liberal sermonizing) I found something better do after watching the first half-hour or so. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:28, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
::I think it is worth watching again. I don't think they were mocking religion (although some scenes were certainly light-hearted or attempts at humour). Gump had the mind of a child, and he had the trust and faith of a child - he trusted his mother and was guided by her advice throughout his life, he had faith that his mother was in heaven, and he had faith that there was a God who was watching over and guiding him. He made mistakes along the way, but then we all do. - [[User:Borofkin2|Borofkin2]] 21:36, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
I more or less agree with Andy here. Forrest does take his faith seriously and it does guide him. However, since the rest of the movies portrays him as being naive and stupid (there is one scene where he gives the cold shoulder to a prostitute, but it's actually because he's too stupid to realize what a prostitute is), so it's not necessarily a positive portray of faith. My final verdict: Interesting movie, not conservative at all. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:32, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Was he too stupid, or too naive? They aren't the same thing. I think it would be a great thing if none of us had to know what a prostitute is. - [[User:Borofkin2|Borofkin2]] 21:36, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Gump is mentally retarded. You know that. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:38, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
:He was retarded, but he was certainly capable of understanding that a prostitute has sex for money. My point was that up until that point, Gump had lived a life that didn't involve meeting prostitutes or talking about prostitutes. - [[User:Borofkin2|Borofkin2]] 21:44, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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What I saw of Forrest Gump was very [[liberal]], which is not surprising given that Tom Hanks is very [[liberal]]. The movie has the quality of [[liberal]] elitism, dumbing down the character and the audience to spoon-feed them some propaganda. Sermonizing about the 1960s, for example. The religious references described above seem more like mockery than authentic. The faith of a simpleton is not silly or foolish. [[Louis Pasteur]], far brighter than we are, said that he hoped to die with the powerful faith of French peasant, for example.<br />
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Beyond that, the Forrest Gump has an Oprah Winfrey-like style of unrealistic idiocy. Gump fails to given a realistic portrayal of an idiot. Instead, the movie seems to view its audience as idiots.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:16, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::Back to SPR. Andy, I'm not a liberal, and while I'm right of center, I'm not as far to the right as you are. Speaking from thirteen years service (USMC), I can tell you most Marines and soliders do curse (a hell of alot more and far more colorfully than was portrayed in the movie), and while you do find the occasional guy who reads his pocket New Testament and goes to services, they are the exception and not the rule. Most men in these units are at best, nominal Christians, and SPR is a realistic depiction of combat and men in combat. BTW, I don't think Hanks was really portraying any particular individual; SPR was historical fiction. As far as SPR or Gump being liberal, I don't think they are slanted to the right or left either way. I don't think most people watch a movie and think "this is liberal" or "this is conservative," with the exception of Micheal Moore films, and a few Susan Sarandon films that promoted a particular agenda. By the way, my remark about the folks with faith being less intelligent was inspired by your (unintentionally humourus) remarks above. God Bless--[[User:Eddiec|Eddiec]] 09:07, 23 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:::: Eddiec, you've already mocked Christianity and the mentally disabled so your description of the military, even if you did serve 13 years in the Marines, is of little value. Christians formed the backbone of our military and I think you're making your comments up, or you're seeing only what you want to. Note, by the way, that SPR portrays the military during WWII. Do you claim that you served in that also??? That there were only nominal Christians in that war also, per your experience???--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:21, 23 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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::::::::Andy, I did not mock Christianity; I mocked you. WWII was before my time, but I think my serivce has value. I saw other Marines everyday and interacted with them. Do you have military experice Andy? Have you interacted with Marines and soldiers on a daily basis? Perhaps you are making things up or creating a fantasy where military people do not cuss and sit around reading the Bible.THey are far more likely to be reading Playboy. Actually, they are more likely to be reading something far worse (at least by your lights)--[[User:Eddiec|Eddiec]] 10:30, 23 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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I'm going to defend the possible conservativeness of Gump here. Very early on, for example, FG and his best friend Jenny pray for God to save her from her abusive father, and He does. Later in the movie, Forrest the Soldier is the Good Guy, and the peacenik hippies are clearly the Bad Guys. As mentioned above, too, Lt Dan doesn't find satisfaction in life until he makes peace with God. Then there's the scenes where FG goes running, and ends up with a whole crowd of doofus followers, demonstrating the danger of false prophets. And of course, the character of Jenny throughout the film demonstrates the danger of hedonism. I don't recall feeling that any of this was mocking religion. (And, not incidentally, FG isn't a "retard" or an idiot--his character is that of the proverbial Innocent)--[[User:PeteVan|PeteVan]] 14:33, 25 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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DanH, I don't think this movie is conservative at all. The kid was abandoned by his parents, they were not imprisoned for a cut-and-dry case of child neglect, and the movie taught children that hitting people over the head with shovles is an effective problem-solving mechanism. This movie has got to be removed. --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:12, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Conservatives traditionally believe in the right to defend themselves, as per the Second Amendment. Also, although what the parents did were horrible, they did everything they could to reverse it and the virtue of forgiveness shines through. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 19:13, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:They abandoned their child. A pre-teen stuck at home while his parents were overseas for an extended period of time, and there was no indication that the state even waged an investigation into the incident. That's a clear case of neglect by the parents, and a clear instance of ineffective police work.<br />
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:Your self-defense claim falls for a couple reasons. First, to get technical, the 2nd Amendment says nothing about self-defense, it instead provides a cryptic message concerning militias. Second, it was the old guy that hit the folk with a shovel, and he was in no immediate harm by the victims. Self-defense does not apply. --[[User:LiteratiChamp|LiteratiChamp]] 19:16, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:: The above comments by "LiteratiChamp" are not to be taken seriously. I've blocked this contributor for a week for his other postings for reasons explained in the block.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:39, 20 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Don't remove this without talking on here; as Mr. Schlafly stated, LiteratiChamp isn't to be taken seriously. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:34, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I'm to be taken seriously, and I raise all the arguments LiteratiChamp has. There, you lose again. --[[User:AlecEmpire|AlecEmpire]] 21:35, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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So I lose just because you argue against me? That's brilliant debate tactics right there. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:37, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Don't pretend to be stupid. You lost the argument before, and if you are serious to demand that we re-raise the issue instead of deal with what has already been laid out, you will lose again. Your movie supports child-abuse and unnecessary violence. Quit being a vandal. --[[User:AlecEmpire|AlecEmpire]] 21:40, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Just because it notes the presence of child abuse doesn't mean it supports it. It doesn't condone child abuse! Oh, and I'm not a vandal. I've been contributing on this site for several months, almost from the beginning. And what have you contributed? [[User:DanH|DanH]] 21:42, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==World Trade Center==<br />
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I don't think we should say it's unbiased. Oliver Stone is not unbiased. In fact, every point of view is biased in one way or another. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 20:42, 22 July 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== V for Vendetta ==<br />
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This movie should definitely be taken out of the list! The creators of the graphic novel wrote it in part as a slam of Margaret Thatcher's policies. The movie itself contains many references to 'the downfall of the US starting with the Iraq war' and how the 'US dragged the whole world into war' and the 'oppresion of gays and lesbians', and 'government sponsored camps for minorites and Muslims'. Not to mention the glorification of terrorism as a justifiable means to an end and the crypto-Christian 'state religion' and how that opposes any other religions. [[User:Tordenvaer|Tordenvaer]]<br />
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: Done. Thanks for your insights.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:14, 23 July 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:PeteVan&diff=211895User:PeteVan2007-06-29T00:10:56Z<p>PeteVan: He's baaack....</p>
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<div>Hi--<br />
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My name is Pete VanDyke (no jokes, please--I've heard them all). I've just finished my Associates Degree (Business Mgmt), and am getting ready to head off to Toledo, Ohio to work on my Bachelor's. I've been lurking on Conservapedia for about a month now, and am ready to get to work! My plan is to knock off entries from the "Wanted" page, at least until work and/or school take over.<br />
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FYI -- I knocked out the rest of the Geology Terms Index pages, and I will be working on adding definitions to all the terms I dumped in there (that is, getting rid of all the red links I've created).-- 8 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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6/28/07--I'm back. It's been a crazy few weeks, but I'm now firmly ensconced in SE Michigan (as opposed to the former SW Michigan) for the foreseeable future.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Stevie_Wonder&diff=194820Stevie Wonder2007-06-11T14:36:21Z<p>PeteVan: a start for Stevie</p>
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<div>Stevie Wonder (b. 1950) is a modern American singer, songwriter, and musician. Blind since birth, he has had many hits, his first being ''Fingertips (Part 2)'', recorded when he was just 13 years old. He has won 22 Grammy awards (more than any other solo artist), and has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.<br />
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[[Category:Musicians]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ray_Charles&diff=194812Talk:Ray Charles2007-06-11T14:23:51Z<p>PeteVan: needs work...and a picture</p>
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<div>Whoa!! ''Georgia on my Mind'' was a 1930s Hoagy Carmichael song [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 00:42, 11 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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And perhaps we can have a category for ''blind black one-eyed gay Jewish musicians''. We would then have somewhere to put Sammy Davis Jr. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 01:29, 11 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Feel free to take that junk out when you see it. I've learned that on these smaller articles asking "Should this be here?" usually doesn't get a response, you just have to act on it. These articles were made by someone who wasn't here very long and got blocked, so I've been looking at his articles. Anyways, I've put Ray and Stevie more appropriately under Musicians. --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 09:36, 11 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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That's a bit better...Still needs more work, though....--[[User:PeteVan|PeteVan]] 10:23, 11 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ray_Charles&diff=194810Ray Charles2007-06-11T14:20:38Z<p>PeteVan: awards</p>
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<div>'''Ray Charles''' (Septmeber 23, 1930 - June 10, 2004) was a modern [[American]] singer and pianist influential in the genres of [[rhythm and blues]], [[soul]], [[pop]], [[blues]], [[country music|country]], [[jazz]], and [[gospel music|gospel]]. He is known for hits such as ''What'd I Say?'', ''I Can't Stop Loving You'', ''Hit the Road Jack'', ''Georgia on My Mind'', ''Busted'', ''You Are My Sunshine'', ''I Got A Woman'', as well as his version of ''America the Beautiful''. He was the winner of twenty Grammy Awards, and has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Jazz Hall of Fame.<br />
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[[Category:Musicians]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ray_Charles&diff=194802Ray Charles2007-06-11T14:09:24Z<p>PeteVan: hits</p>
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<div>'''Ray Charles''' (Septmeber 23, 1930 - June 10, 2004) was a modern American singer and pianist influential in the genres of rhythm and blues, soul, pop, blues, country, jazz, and gospel. He is known for hits such as ''What'd I Say?'', ''I Can't Stop Loving You'', ''Hit the Road Jack'', ''Georgia on My Mind'', ''Busted'', ''You Are My Sunshine'', ''I Got A Woman'', as well as his version of ''America the Beautiful''.<br />
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[[Category:Musicians]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ray_Charles&diff=194798Ray Charles2007-06-11T13:59:23Z<p>PeteVan: a start of something better</p>
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<div>'''Ray Charles''' (Septmeber 23, 1930 - June 10, 2004) was a modern American singer and pianist influential in the genres of rhythm and blues, soul, pop, blues, country, jazz, and gospel.<br />
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[[Category:Musicians]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_Z&diff=193170Geology Terms Z2007-06-08T19:09:16Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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<div>{{Geology Index}}<br />
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[[Zeolite]]<br />
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[[Zoned Crystal]]<br />
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[[Xenolith]]<br />
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[[X-ray Diffraction]]<br />
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[[Wadi]]<br />
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[[Warping]]<br />
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[[Water Table]]<br />
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[[Wave-cut Terrace]]<br />
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[[Wavelength]]<br />
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[[Wave Steepness]]<br />
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[[Weathering]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_V&diff=193165Geology Terms V2007-06-08T19:07:40Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Vadose Zone]]<br />
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[[Valence Electron]]<br />
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[[Valley Glacier]]<br />
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[[Van der Waals Bond]]<br />
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[[Varve]]<br />
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[[Vector]]<br />
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[[Vein]]<br />
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[[Ventifact]]<br />
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[[Vertical Exaggeration]]<br />
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[[Vesicle]]<br />
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[[Viscosity]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Ash]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Ash Fall]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Ash Flow]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Block]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Bomb]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Breccia]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Cone]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Dome]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Ejecta Blanket]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Emanations]]<br />
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[[Volcanic Pipe]]<br />
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[[Volcano]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_U&diff=193163Geology Terms U2007-06-08T19:05:37Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Ultramafic Rock]]<br />
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[[Unconformity]]<br />
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[[Unconsolidated Material]]<br />
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[[Uniformitarianism, Principle of]]<br />
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[[Unit Cell]]<br />
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[[Uplift]]<br />
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[[Upwelling Current]]<br />
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[[U-shaped Valley]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_T&diff=193159Geology Terms T2007-06-08T19:04:45Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Tableland]]<br />
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[[Tar Sand]]<br />
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[[Talus]]<br />
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[[Tectonics]]<br />
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[[Terminal Moraine]]<br />
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[[Terrestrial Planet]]<br />
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[[Terrestrial Sediment]]<br />
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[[Texture]]<br />
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[[Thalweg]]<br />
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[[Thermal Conductivity]]<br />
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[[Thermal Expansion]]<br />
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[[Thermonuclear Reaction]]<br />
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[[Thermoremnent Magnetization]]<br />
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[[Thrust Fault]]<br />
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[[Tidal Current]]<br />
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[[Tidal Flat]]<br />
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[[Till]]<br />
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[[Time Scale]]<br />
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[[Topographic Map]]<br />
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[[Topography]]<br />
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[[Topset Bed]]<br />
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[[Trace Element]]<br />
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[[Transform Fault]]<br />
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[[Transgression]]<br />
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[[Transition Element]]<br />
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[[Transpiration]]<br />
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[[Transverse Dune]]<br />
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[[Trap]]<br />
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[[Travel-time Curve]]<br />
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[[Travertine]]<br />
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[[Trellis Drainage]]<br />
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[[Trench]]<br />
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[[Triple Junction]]<br />
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[[Tsunami]]<br />
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[[Tuff]]<br />
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[[Turbidite]]<br />
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[[Turbidity Current]]<br />
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[[Turbulent Flow]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_S&diff=193157Geology Terms S2007-06-08T19:02:53Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Saltation]]<br />
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[[Sandblasting]]<br />
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[[Sandstone]]<br />
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[[Schist]]<br />
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[[Schistosity]]<br />
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[[Scoria]]<br />
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[[Sea-floor Spreading]]<br />
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[[Seamount]]<br />
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[[Secular Variation]]<br />
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[[Sedimentary Rock]]<br />
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[[Sedimentary Structure]]<br />
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[[Sedimentation]]<br />
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[[Seismic Discontinuity]]<br />
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[[Seismicity]]<br />
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[[Seismic Profile]]<br />
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[[Seismic Reflection]]<br />
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[[Seismic Refraction]]<br />
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[[Seismic Surface Wave]]<br />
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[[Seismic Transition Zone]]<br />
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[[Stratification]]<br />
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[[Stratigraphic Sequence]]<br />
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[[Stratigraphy]]<br />
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[[Stratovolcano]]<br />
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[[Streak]]<br />
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[[Streak Plate]]<br />
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[[Streaming Flow]]<br />
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[[Streamline]]<br />
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[[Stream Order]]<br />
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[[Stress]]<br />
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[[Strike]]<br />
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[[Strike-slip Fault]]<br />
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[[Stromatolite]]<br />
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[[Subduction Zone]]<br />
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[[Sublimation]]<br />
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[[Submarine Canyon]]<br />
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[[Subsidence]]<br />
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[[Superposed Stream]]<br />
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[[Superposition, Principle of]]<br />
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[[Supersaturation]]<br />
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[[Surf]]<br />
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[[Surf Zone]]<br />
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[[Suspended Load]]<br />
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[[Swash]]<br />
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[[S-wave]]<br />
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[[Swell]]<br />
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[[Symbiosis]]<br />
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[[Syncline]]<br />
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[[System (Stratigraphy)]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_R&diff=193154Geology Terms R2007-06-08T19:00:59Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Radial Drainage]]<br />
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[[Radiative Transfer]]<br />
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[[Radiolarian]]<br />
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[[Radiolarian Ooze]]<br />
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[[Ray]]<br />
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[[Reaction Series]]<br />
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[[Recharge]]<br />
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[[Recrystallization]]<br />
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[[Rectangular Drainage]]<br />
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[[Recumbent Fold]]<br />
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[[Refraction (Wave)]]<br />
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[[Regional Metamorphism]]<br />
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[[Regolith]]<br />
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[[Regression]]<br />
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[[Relief]]<br />
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[[Remote Sensing]]<br />
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[[Replacement Deposit]]<br />
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[[Respiration]]<br />
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[[Reversible Reaction]]<br />
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[[Rheidity]]<br />
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[[Rhyolite]]<br />
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[[Ridge ]]<br />
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[[Rift Valley]]<br />
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[[Right-lateral Fault]]<br />
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[[Ring Dike]]<br />
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[[Rip current]]<br />
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[[Ripple]]<br />
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[[Rock Cycle]]<br />
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[[Rock Flour]]<br />
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[[Rock Glacier]]<br />
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[[Rockslide]]<br />
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[[Runoff]]<br />
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[[Rupture Strength]]<br />
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[[Quartz Arenite]]<br />
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[[Quartzite]]<br />
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[[Quartzose Sandstone]]<br />
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[[Pahoehoe]]<br />
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[[Paleoclimate]]<br />
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[[Paleocurrent Map]]<br />
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[[Paleogeographic Map]]<br />
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[[Paleomagnetism]]<br />
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[[Paleontology]]<br />
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[[Paleowind]]<br />
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[[Pangaea]]<br />
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[[Panthalassa]]<br />
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[[Parent Element]]<br />
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[[Peat]]<br />
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[[Pedalfer]]<br />
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[[Pediment]]<br />
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[[Pedocal]]<br />
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[[Pegmatite]]<br />
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[[Pelagic Sediment]]<br />
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[[Peneplain]]<br />
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[[Perched Groundwater]]<br />
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[[Peridotite]]<br />
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[[Potable Water]]<br />
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[[Pothole]]<br />
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[[Ppm]]<br />
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[[Pratt Isostatic Compensation]]<br />
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[[Preferred Orientation]]<br />
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[[Proto-sun]]<br />
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[[Proven Reserves]]<br />
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[[Pumice]]<br />
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[[P-wave]]<br />
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[[Pyroclastic Rock]]<br />
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[[Pyroclastic Texture]]<br />
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[[Pyroxene Granulite]]<br />
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[[Oblique-slip Fault]]<br />
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[[Obsidian]]<br />
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[[Octahedral Coordination]]<br />
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[[Oil Field]]<br />
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[[Oil shale]]<br />
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[[Old Age]]<br />
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[[Oolite]]<br />
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[[Opaque Mineral]]<br />
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[[Ophiolite Suite]]<br />
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[[Orbit]]<br />
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[[Ore]]<br />
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[[Ore Mineral]]<br />
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[[Original Horizontality, Principle of]]<br />
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[[Orogenic Belt]]<br />
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[[Orogeny]]<br />
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[[Oscillation Ripple]]<br />
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[[Outcrop]]<br />
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[[Outgassing]]<br />
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[[Outwash]]<br />
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[[Oxidation]]<br />
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[[Oxidized Element]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_O&diff=193139Geology Terms O2007-06-08T18:50:34Z<p>PeteVan: fixing capitalization</p>
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[[Old Age]]<br />
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[[Oolite]]<br />
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[[Opaque Mineral]]<br />
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[[Ophiolite Suite]]<br />
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[[Orbit]]<br />
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[[Ore]]<br />
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[[Orogenic Belt]]<br />
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[[Orogeny]]<br />
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[[Oscillation Ripple]]<br />
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[[Outcrop]]<br />
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[[Outwash]]<br />
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[[Oxidation]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Oil_Shale&diff=193136Oil Shale2007-06-08T18:46:30Z<p>PeteVan: new page</p>
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<div>Oil shale is a dark-colored shale containing organic material that can be crushed and heated to liberate gaseous hydrocarbons.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DeanS&diff=193117User talk:DeanS2007-06-08T18:22:28Z<p>PeteVan: Thanks</p>
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*Thanks for fixing those cites on the mutation page, I haven't had time to figure that out yet. Appreciate it!<br />
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*Could you help with [[Brigham Young]]? <font color="#F90404">Geo.</font>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Geo.plrd Talk] 02:26, 4 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I will work on that article. Thanks for the suggestion Geo. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 02:31, 4 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Would you care to define [[tolerance]]? The red color on that link, as you may know, indicates an article which has not been written yet. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:20, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I will start the tolerance article. Thanks for the suggestion Ed. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 13:43, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Since the article was started while I was in edit mode, I made additions to the article. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 14:28, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==article citations==<br />
You're welcome! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Not quite ==<br />
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Sub-pages of your userspace are made with a "/", not a "\". Right now you're technically intruding into other userspaces. It's not urgent, but maybe ask a sysop to move the pages in question to the proper space next time you talk to one. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 15:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Moved pages in question==<br />
New pages have the exact title name as before, the exception being the change from \ to /. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:07, 10 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Template ==<br />
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== Thanks for copy editing [[Smithsonian-Sternberg affair]] ==<br />
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Just wanted to say thanks for copy editing the contribution. [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 13:12, 8 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Crazies to the left...==<br />
I restored the page. There was no copyright violation, as the article tells what the book is about. If you do use actual quotations from the book, dont forget the (Goldberg, pg. 50) at the end of the line in question. If you need a second opinion as well, Aschafly will also be glad to chip in. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 18:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I don't agree that there was no copyright violation because "the article tells what the book is about", but probably there was no violation since it was only a limited portion that was quoted for legitimate reasons. Er, except that I'm not sure what those reasons are. Is this meant to be an article about a book, or what? If it is, I think it's more appropriate to actually describe the book in your own words than to have virtually all of the article being the publisher's description. So copyright may not be the issue, but I think it would be better if it was not mostly a quote. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:02, 16 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:P.S. And Conservapedia's desire to not have articles about every little thing makes me wonder if there is justification for articles about books at all (with a few obvious exceptions). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:03, 16 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It was not me ==<br />
It was not me. Thats not the first time that someone has tried to frame me see here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Conservapedia&diff=next&oldid=126710147] look who is making the change.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 13:05, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== [[Cube]] ==<br />
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As a mineralogist perhaps you'd like to join the debate. [[User:Gerrard|Gerrard]] 13:08, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Gerrard, thanks for the suggestion. I'm an amateur mineralogist and that discussion is a bit over my head. I'm more interested in the actual minerals and less about crystallography. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 13:30, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Sysop==<br />
You got my vote as sysop, so I'll be nudging Andy about it over the next few weeks until it happens. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:29, 23 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== geology stuff ==<br />
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Hey, just wanted to touch base with you and let you know what I was doing. I've been categorizing most of your enteries into the Geology category. I also put the Mineral category you created as a subcategory of Geology. I think if we want to come up with any further categories to lump some of these terms in, we should keep placing them as subcategories under Geology. Chances are you will have a much better idea as to how you would want them categorized than I will, I'm just doing some grunt work. :) --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 09:48, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks for all your hard work and article creations. It's been much appreciated. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 22:41, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I have voiced my support for you.[[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 23:20, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Your on fire! How many new pages is that tonight? [[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 00:05, 26 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks Bohdan - About 56 new pages. That might be it for today ;-) I'm leaving now to take my family to see Shrek 3. Godspeed. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 00:12, 26 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Thanks for reverting that Abuse attack! You have your hat in the ring for Sysop? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 03:49, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I do.[http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Sysop_contest/Nominations/Crocoite] I had to even revert my pages when I got caught in the cross fire. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 05:13, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Endorsement by me has always been a mixed blessing among the users, and now even more so being at odds with some CP procedures. But for what it might be worth, I have offered my qualified support. I just will not support promotions for people who do not have/use IM and with no email enabled through this board at a minimum. Not saying that fits you, just saying I don't know. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 05:28, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
*You just cannot imagine what trouble you invite by posting that here, lol. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 05:36, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Your template(s) ==<br />
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:24, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I will document this template later today. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 11:41, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Done [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 23:03, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks. Actually, this has highlighted a problem with the "optional" bit. Typing <nowiki>{{mineral}}</nowiki> (i.e. not supplying any parameters) is not going to work. In that sense, the parameters are not optional at all. There are three cases: (1) can be omitted, (2) can be blank, and (3) must be provided. The Name parameter of {{tl|mineral}} is hardly optional; it must be provided. The rest can be blank, but cannot be omitted. I'll have to think about how to best document this, so don't worry about it for now. By the way, the "cat" field was for the category (if any) that the template applies to pages it is put on, which in this case is "mineral", not "template". Anyway, I've fixed that for you.<br />
::How many uses of this template have pictures? The template should be altered to just require the image name, not the entire <nowiki>[[image:name.jpg]]</nowiki> code, but changing it now will break any that are already used.<br />
::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:56, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Thank you for this recognition! I will review this material so I can assist you as a Sysop. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Congratulations! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:12, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks Dan :) [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Well done. [[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 16:52, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Congratulations!!! Very well deserved!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: You definitely deserved this promotion. It will be great to have you as a Sysop. ~ <font color="Turquoise">[[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup></font> 18:30, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Congratulations. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 20:18, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Congratulations!--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::You've deserved it. [[User:Niandra|<font color="#4d4d4d">Niandra</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Niandra|talk]]</sup> 00:21, 1 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Congrats on becoming the newest Sysop...I know it's late but hey! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 23:31, 2 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Images ==<br />
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Crocoite, thanks for all your efforts. By the way, if and when you upload any images, then please make sure you protect them at the Sysop level, so that only Sysops can move or modify them. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:16, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Will do. Thanks for your support. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 01:24, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Ruining fun..... ==<br />
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:-( --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 04:46, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== G-d ==<br />
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Crocoite, I doubt this will happen often, but I did revert your news item about "G-d". That is standard Jewish terminology for God, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's not anti-religious in any way.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:34, 4 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I wasn't aware of the Jewish terminology for God, but an explanation seems like an appropriate edit for the [[Jewish]] article. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 00:44, 4 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Crocoite, you have to send private emails to my same id on aol. For some reason the email here does not forward to me. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 02:10, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Vandals ==<br />
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Nasty buggers these vandals are!!--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 19:28, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, they're annoying, but they were even worse with upload privileges ;-) [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 19:34, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
::O ya no doubt!!--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 19:36, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Email? ==<br />
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You posted you were sending some email, but I have not received it. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 08:27, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I just sent another email directly from Yahoo, instead of this site. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 09:39, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Please answer your Yahoo IM. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 22:34, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Christianity template ==<br />
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I believe that we will not resolve the Mormon/Christianity template issue between us. Therefore, I appealed to Andy for final resolution. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:26, 7 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Vandal Question ==<br />
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I'm new here, and have a question. If I see a user vandalizing the place, what's the proper procedure, particularly if the vandalism is ongoing? Should I assume one of the sysops will catch it, or do I contact one of them (and if so, what is the best means when time is of the essence)? (And let me note that "JohnV" seems to be a vandal, and "MikeHunt", while he hasn't done anything yet, has an obviously inappropriate name which stopped being funny in junior high...).--[[User:PeteVan|Pete]] 11:43, 8 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Pete, at the bottom of the Main Page is a section titled '''Report vandalism or abuse'''. Click [[Conservapedia:Abuse]]. This is where you can report abuse of editing privileges. Please make notes short and concise. Unsigned posts will be removed. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 12:12, 8 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Oh, excellent. Thank you.--[[User:PeteVan|Pete]] 14:22, 8 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DeanS&diff=192976User talk:DeanS2007-06-08T15:43:38Z<p>PeteVan: Vandal Question</p>
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*Thanks for fixing those cites on the mutation page, I haven't had time to figure that out yet. Appreciate it!<br />
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*Could you help with [[Brigham Young]]? <font color="#F90404">Geo.</font>[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Geo.plrd Talk] 02:26, 4 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I will work on that article. Thanks for the suggestion Geo. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 02:31, 4 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Would you care to define [[tolerance]]? The red color on that link, as you may know, indicates an article which has not been written yet. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:20, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I will start the tolerance article. Thanks for the suggestion Ed. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 13:43, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Since the article was started while I was in edit mode, I made additions to the article. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]]<sup>[[User Talk:Crocoite|talk]]</sup> 14:28, 5 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==article citations==<br />
You're welcome! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:33, 6 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Not quite ==<br />
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Sub-pages of your userspace are made with a "/", not a "\". Right now you're technically intruding into other userspaces. It's not urgent, but maybe ask a sysop to move the pages in question to the proper space next time you talk to one. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 15:08, 10 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Moved pages in question==<br />
New pages have the exact title name as before, the exception being the change from \ to /. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:07, 10 April 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Template ==<br />
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== Thanks for copy editing [[Smithsonian-Sternberg affair]] ==<br />
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Just wanted to say thanks for copy editing the contribution. [[User:HeartOfGold|HeartOfGold]] 13:12, 8 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Crazies to the left...==<br />
I restored the page. There was no copyright violation, as the article tells what the book is about. If you do use actual quotations from the book, dont forget the (Goldberg, pg. 50) at the end of the line in question. If you need a second opinion as well, Aschafly will also be glad to chip in. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 18:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I don't agree that there was no copyright violation because "the article tells what the book is about", but probably there was no violation since it was only a limited portion that was quoted for legitimate reasons. Er, except that I'm not sure what those reasons are. Is this meant to be an article about a book, or what? If it is, I think it's more appropriate to actually describe the book in your own words than to have virtually all of the article being the publisher's description. So copyright may not be the issue, but I think it would be better if it was not mostly a quote. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:02, 16 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:P.S. And Conservapedia's desire to not have articles about every little thing makes me wonder if there is justification for articles about books at all (with a few obvious exceptions). [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:03, 16 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== It was not me ==<br />
It was not me. Thats not the first time that someone has tried to frame me see here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Conservapedia&diff=next&oldid=126710147] look who is making the change.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 13:05, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== [[Cube]] ==<br />
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As a mineralogist perhaps you'd like to join the debate. [[User:Gerrard|Gerrard]] 13:08, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
: Gerrard, thanks for the suggestion. I'm an amateur mineralogist and that discussion is a bit over my head. I'm more interested in the actual minerals and less about crystallography. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 13:30, 22 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Sysop==<br />
You got my vote as sysop, so I'll be nudging Andy about it over the next few weeks until it happens. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:29, 23 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== geology stuff ==<br />
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Hey, just wanted to touch base with you and let you know what I was doing. I've been categorizing most of your enteries into the Geology category. I also put the Mineral category you created as a subcategory of Geology. I think if we want to come up with any further categories to lump some of these terms in, we should keep placing them as subcategories under Geology. Chances are you will have a much better idea as to how you would want them categorized than I will, I'm just doing some grunt work. :) --[[User:Colest|Colest]] 09:48, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks for all your hard work and article creations. It's been much appreciated. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 22:41, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I have voiced my support for you.[[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 23:20, 25 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Your on fire! How many new pages is that tonight? [[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 00:05, 26 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:::Thanks Bohdan - About 56 new pages. That might be it for today ;-) I'm leaving now to take my family to see Shrek 3. Godspeed. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 00:12, 26 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Thanks for reverting that Abuse attack! You have your hat in the ring for Sysop? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 03:49, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Yes, I do.[http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Sysop_contest/Nominations/Crocoite] I had to even revert my pages when I got caught in the cross fire. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 05:13, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Endorsement by me has always been a mixed blessing among the users, and now even more so being at odds with some CP procedures. But for what it might be worth, I have offered my qualified support. I just will not support promotions for people who do not have/use IM and with no email enabled through this board at a minimum. Not saying that fits you, just saying I don't know. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 05:28, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
*You just cannot imagine what trouble you invite by posting that here, lol. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 05:36, 28 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Your template(s) ==<br />
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:24, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:I will document this template later today. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 11:41, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Done [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]] [[Conservapedia:Requests for adminship#Support|Support my RfA]])</sup> 23:03, 30 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::Thanks. Actually, this has highlighted a problem with the "optional" bit. Typing <nowiki>{{mineral}}</nowiki> (i.e. not supplying any parameters) is not going to work. In that sense, the parameters are not optional at all. There are three cases: (1) can be omitted, (2) can be blank, and (3) must be provided. The Name parameter of {{tl|mineral}} is hardly optional; it must be provided. The rest can be blank, but cannot be omitted. I'll have to think about how to best document this, so don't worry about it for now. By the way, the "cat" field was for the category (if any) that the template applies to pages it is put on, which in this case is "mineral", not "template". Anyway, I've fixed that for you.<br />
::How many uses of this template have pictures? The template should be altered to just require the image name, not the entire <nowiki>[[image:name.jpg]]</nowiki> code, but changing it now will break any that are already used.<br />
::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:56, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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==You're a Sysop now!==<br />
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:Thank you for this recognition! I will review this material so I can assist you as a Sysop. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Congratulations! [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:12, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Thanks Dan :) [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 16:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Well done. [[User:Bohdan|Богдан]] <sup>[[User talk:Bohdan|Talk]]</sup> 16:52, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: Congratulations!!! Very well deserved!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:24, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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: You definitely deserved this promotion. It will be great to have you as a Sysop. ~ <font color="Turquoise">[[User:SharonS|Sharon]]<sup>[[User talk:SharonS|Talk]]</sup></font> 18:30, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Congratulations. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 20:18, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
:Congratulations!--[[User:Tash|Tash]] 22:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)<br />
::You've deserved it. [[User:Niandra|<font color="#4d4d4d">Niandra</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Niandra|talk]]</sup> 00:21, 1 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Congrats on becoming the newest Sysop...I know it's late but hey! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 23:31, 2 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Images ==<br />
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Crocoite, thanks for all your efforts. By the way, if and when you upload any images, then please make sure you protect them at the Sysop level, so that only Sysops can move or modify them. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 01:16, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Will do. Thanks for your support. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 01:24, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Ruining fun..... ==<br />
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:-( --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 04:46, 3 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== G-d ==<br />
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Crocoite, I doubt this will happen often, but I did revert your news item about "G-d". That is standard Jewish terminology for God, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's not anti-religious in any way.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:34, 4 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I wasn't aware of the Jewish terminology for God, but an explanation seems like an appropriate edit for the [[Jewish]] article. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 00:44, 4 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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Crocoite, you have to send private emails to my same id on aol. For some reason the email here does not forward to me. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 02:10, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Vandals ==<br />
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Nasty buggers these vandals are!!--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 19:28, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:Yes, they're annoying, but they were even worse with upload privileges ;-) [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 19:34, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
::O ya no doubt!!--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 19:36, 5 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Email? ==<br />
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You posted you were sending some email, but I have not received it. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 08:27, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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:I just sent another email directly from Yahoo, instead of this site. [[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] <sup>[[User_talk:Crocoite|Talk]]</sup> 09:39, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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*Please answer your Yahoo IM. --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 22:34, 6 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Christianity template ==<br />
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I believe that we will not resolve the Mormon/Christianity template issue between us. Therefore, I appealed to Andy for final resolution. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 20:26, 7 June 2007 (EDT)<br />
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== Vandal Question ==<br />
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I'm new here, and have a question. If I see a user vandalizing the place, what's the proper procedure, particularly if the vandalism is ongoing? Should I assume one of the sysops will catch it, or do I contact one of them (and if so, what is the best means when time is of the essence)? (And let me note that "JohnV" seems to be a vandal, and "MikeHunt", while he hasn't done anything yet, has an obviously inappropriate name which stopped being funny in junior high...).--[[User:PeteVan|Pete]] 11:43, 8 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Penn_and_Teller&diff=192938Penn and Teller2007-06-08T15:06:13Z<p>PeteVan: removed stupid vandalism</p>
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<div>Penn and Teller are a unique duo of magicians. Teller, who often performs tricks while Penn provides dialog, never speaks on camera or on stage. Penn and Teller do more than just perform in [[Las Vegas]], they have had multiple television shows, one of which was "[[Bull****!]]", which debunked many liberal ideas as well as conservative ones. Teller has spoken a number of times on televisions, but it is normal in the act for him never to speak. The pair have appeared on [[The West Wing]], on which they appeared to make an American flag, wrapped in a copy of the Bill of Rights, disappear in a puff of flame and smoke.<br />
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From a conservative perspective, Penn and Teller can be both loved and hated. They have mocked things like [[religion]] and [[circumcision]], but also debunked [[environmentalist]] ideas and [[9/11 conspiracy theories]] on their show "Penn & Teller's Bull****", on Showtime. The duo are both atheists, and both vote libertarian, or have done in the past few elections.</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:PeteVan&diff=192927User:PeteVan2007-06-08T15:01:40Z<p>PeteVan: </p>
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<div>Hi--<br />
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My name is Pete VanDyke (no jokes, please--I've heard them all). I've just finished my Associates Degree (Business Mgmt), and am getting ready to head off to Toledo, Ohio to work on my Bachelor's. I've been lurking on Conservapedia for about a month now, and am ready to get to work! My plan is to knock off entries from the "Wanted" page, at least until work and/or school take over.<br />
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FYI -- I knocked out the rest of the Geology Terms Index pages, and I will be working on adding definitions to all the terms I dumped in there (that is, getting rid of all the red links I've created).-- 8 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:PeteVan&diff=192925User:PeteVan2007-06-08T15:01:17Z<p>PeteVan: </p>
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<div>Hi--<br />
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My name is Pete VanDyke (no jokes, please--I've heard them all). I've just finished my Associates Degree (Business Mgmt), and am getting ready to head off to Toledo, Ohio to work on my Bachelor's. I've been lurking on Conservapedia for about a month now, and am ready to get to work! My plan is to knock off entries from the "Wanted" page, at least until work and/or school take over.<br />
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FYI -- I knocked out the rest of the Geology Terms Index pages, and I will be working on adding definitions to all the terms I dumped in there (that is, getting rid of all the red links I've created).-- Pete 8 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:PeteVan&diff=192924User:PeteVan2007-06-08T15:00:33Z<p>PeteVan: </p>
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<div>Hi--<br />
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My name is Pete VanDyke (no jokes, please--I've heard them all). I've just finished my Associates Degree (Business Mgmt), and am getting ready to head off to Toledo, Ohio to work on my Bachelor's. I've been lurking on Conservapedia for about a month now, and am ready to get to work! My plan is to knock off entries from the "Wanted" page, at least until work and/or school take over.<br />
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FYI -- I knocked out the rest of the Geology Terms Index pages, and I will be working on adding definitions to all the terms I dumped in there (that is, getting rid of all the red links I've created).--[[User:PeteVan|PeteVan]] 11:00, 8 June 2007 (EDT)</div>PeteVanhttps://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geology_Terms_T&diff=192921Geology Terms T2007-06-08T14:56:16Z<p>PeteVan: creating a wanted article--finished with geo terms index (yay)</p>
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<div>{{Geology Index}}<br />
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[[Tableland]]<br />
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[[Tar sand]]<br />
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[[Talus]]<br />
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[[Tectonics]]<br />
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[[Terminal moraine]]<br />
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[[Terrestrial planet]]<br />
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[[Terrestrial sediment]]<br />
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[[Texture]]<br />
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[[Thalweg]]<br />
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[[Thermal conductivity]]<br />
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[[Thermal expansion]]<br />
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[[Thermonuclear reaction]]<br />
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[[Thermoremnent magnetization]]<br />
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[[Thrust fault]]<br />
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[[Tidal current]]<br />
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[[Tidal flat]]<br />
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[[Till]]<br />
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[[Time scale]]<br />
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[[Topographic map]]<br />
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[[Topography]]<br />
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[[Topset bed]]<br />
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[[Trace element]]<br />
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[[Transform fault]]<br />
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[[Transgression]]<br />
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[[Transition element]]<br />
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[[Transpiration]]<br />
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[[Transverse dune]]<br />
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[[Trap ]]<br />
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[[Travel-time curve]]<br />
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[[Travertine]]<br />
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[[Trellis drainage]]<br />
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[[Trench]]<br />
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[[Triple junction]]<br />
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[[Tsunami]]<br />
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[[Tuff]]<br />
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[[Turbidite]]<br />
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[[Turbidity current]]<br />
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[[Turbulent flow]]<br />
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[[Category:Geology]]</div>PeteVan