Dynamic equivalence - Revision history

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2019-10-22T07:05:08Z

typo error - NLV should have been NLT

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2019-10-22T06:56:38Z

Dataclarifier: revised "supporting a doctrinal position" to "supporting a contentious doctrinal position"

2019-10-22T06:51:24Z

revised "supporting a doctrinal position" to "supporting a contentious doctrinal position"

Dataclarifier: Abbreviated names of different Bible versions - those that omit "your" NIV, NLV, ISV, Aramaic English, and those that read "your" ESV, NASB, KJB/KJV, HCSB, NET, GOD'S WORD, Jubilee 2000, King James 2000, AKJV, ASV, Douay-Rheims, Darby, ERV, WBT, WNT, WEB

2019-10-22T06:46:10Z

Abbreviated names of different Bible versions - those that omit "your" NIV, NLV, ISV, Aramaic English, and those that read "your" ESV, NASB, KJB/KJV, HCSB, NET, GOD'S WORD, Jubilee 2000, King James 2000, AKJV, ASV, Douay-Rheims, Darby, ERV, WBT, WNT, WEB

Dataclarifier: corrected misquote of NIV

2019-10-22T06:30:54Z

corrected misquote of NIV

Dataclarifier: Example of good dynamic in NIV not consistently used, for purpose of doctrinal polemic - Mt 23:9 which says "your father" but in NIV says only "Father" deliberately omitting Gr hymon "your"

2019-10-22T06:29:20Z

Example of good dynamic in NIV not consistently used, for purpose of doctrinal polemic - Mt 23:9 which says "your father" but in NIV says only "Father" deliberately omitting Gr hymon "your"

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 '''Dynamic equivalence''' is an approach to [[Bible]] translation that seeks to convey the meaning of a phrase or verse without necessarily adhering to a word-for-word literal translation.  The [[New International Version]] is an example of a translation where dynamic equivalence was the predominant method used.
-The extent to which dynamic equivalence should be used is a long-running debate.  Many modern translations of the Bible use dynamic equivalence to some extent, but some versions use it more than others.  Part of the controversy is how dynamic equivalence can allow [[liberal creep]] into the Bible unless there is a strong guiding principle, such as to adhere to [[conservatism]]. The New International Version is also an example, where dynamic equivalence is not consistently applied, for the purpose of supporting a contentious doctrinal position. For example in Matthew 23:9 the NIV deliberately omits the word "your" ''hymon'' where every extant copy of the Greek text says '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own"
+The extent to which dynamic equivalence should be used is a long-running debate.  Many modern translations of the Bible use dynamic equivalence to some extent, but some versions use it more than others.  Part of the controversy is how dynamic equivalence can allow [[liberal creep]] into the Bible unless there is a strong guiding principle, such as to adhere to [[conservatism]]. The New International Version is also an example, where dynamic equivalence is not consistently applied, for the purpose of supporting a contentious doctrinal position. For example, in Matthew 23:9 the NIV deliberately omits the word "your" ''hymon'' where every extant copy of the Greek text says '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own"
 ::καὶ πατέρα μὴ καλέσητε ὑμῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς
 ::kai patera mē kalesēte hymon epi tēs gēs

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 ::And father no [one] call your on the earth
 ::And call no one your father on the earth.
-The NIV completely omits the word '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own" from its reading of Matthew 23:9, reading instead, "And do not call anyone on earth 'father'." The omission is not an accidental oversight, but was made for the purpose of providing [[polemic]] against Catholic doctrine. Just as the [[Saint Paul|Apostle Paul]] was father of the Corinthians through his preaching of the Gospel ([http://biblehub.com/multi/1_corinthians/4-15.htm 1&nbsp;Corinthians 4:15]), so Catholics and Orthodox also for the same reason address their priests as "Father", but in fact never address them as "my Father". This verse in the Greek New Testament was altered by the translators of the NIV to be used as a "[[Cafeteria Christianity#Proof texts|proof text]]" against the Catholic Church. No other reason can explain the clear omission of a word that exists in every extant manuscript of Matthew 23:9. Some other versions have also done the same (NIV, NLT Living Bible, ISV, Aramaic English). Compare the [http://biblehub.com/multi/matthew/23-9.htm multiple versions of Matthew 23:9]. The versions that read "'''your''' father" are ESV, NASB, KJB/KJV, HCSB, NET, GOD'S WORD, Jubilee 2000, King James 2000, AKJV, ASV, Douay-Rheims, Darby, ERV, WBT, WNT, WEB, YLT.
+The NIV completely omits the word '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own" from its reading of Matthew 23:9, reading instead,
 An example of an effective use of dynamic equivalence, which is too much for most modern translations of the Bible, is the [[Living Bible]]'s translation of Proverbs 16:27:

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 '''Dynamic equivalence''' is an approach to [[Bible]] translation that seeks to convey the meaning of a phrase or verse without necessarily adhering to a word-for-word literal translation.  The [[New International Version]] is an example of a translation where dynamic equivalence was the predominant method used.
-The extent to which dynamic equivalence should be used is a long-running debate.  Many modern translations of the Bible use dynamic equivalence to some extent, but some versions use it more than others.  Part of the controversy is how dynamic equivalence can allow [[liberal creep]] into the Bible unless there is a strong guiding principle, such as to adhere to [[conservatism]]. The New International Version is also an example where dynamic equivalence is not consistently applied, for the purpose of supporting a contentious doctrinal position. For example in Matthew 23:9 the NIV deliberately omits the word "your" ''hymon'' where every extant copy of the Greek text says '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own"
+The extent to which dynamic equivalence should be used is a long-running debate.  Many modern translations of the Bible use dynamic equivalence to some extent, but some versions use it more than others.  Part of the controversy is how dynamic equivalence can allow [[liberal creep]] into the Bible unless there is a strong guiding principle, such as to adhere to [[conservatism]]. The New International Version is also an example, where dynamic equivalence is not consistently applied, for the purpose of supporting a contentious doctrinal position. For example in Matthew 23:9 the NIV deliberately omits the word "your" ''hymon'' where every extant copy of the Greek text says '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own"
 ::καὶ πατέρα μὴ καλέσητε ὑμῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς
 ::kai patera mē kalesēte hymon epi tēs gēs

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 ::And father no [one] call your on the earth
 ::And call no one your father on the earth.
-The NIV completely omits the word '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own" from its reading of Matthew 23:9, reading instead, "And do not call anyone on earth 'father'." The omission is not an accidental oversight, but was made for the purpose of providing [[polemic]] against Catholic doctrine. Just as the [[Saint Paul|Apostle Paul]] was father of the Corinthians through his preaching of the Gospel ([http://biblehub.com/multi/1_corinthians/4-15.htm 1&nbsp;Corinthians 4:15]), so Catholics and Orthodox also for the same reason address their priests as "Father", but in fact never address them as "my Father". This verse in the Greek New Testament was altered by the translators of the NIV to be used as a "[[Cafeteria Christianity#Proof texts|proof text]]" against the Catholic Church. No other reason can explain the clear omission of a word that exists in every extant manuscript of Matthew 23:9. Some other versions have also done the same (NIV, NLV Living Bible, ISV, Aramaic English). Compare the [http://biblehub.com/multi/matthew/23-9.htm multiple versions of Matthew 23:9]. The versions that read "'''your''' father" are ESV, NASB, KJB/KJV, HCSB, NET, GOD'S WORD, Jubilee 2000, King James 2000, AKJV, ASV, Douay-Rheims, Darby, ERV, WBT, WNT, WEB, YLT.
+The NIV completely omits the word '''ὑμῶν''' ''hymon'' "your, yours, your own" from its reading of Matthew 23:9, reading instead, "And do not call anyone on earth 'father'." The omission is not an accidental oversight, but was made for the purpose of providing [[polemic]] against Catholic doctrine. Just as the [[Saint Paul|Apostle Paul]] was father of the Corinthians through his preaching of the Gospel ([http://biblehub.com/multi/1_corinthians/4-15.htm 1&nbsp;Corinthians 4:15]), so Catholics and Orthodox also for the same reason address their priests as "Father", but in fact never address them as "my Father". This verse in the Greek New Testament was altered by the translators of the NIV to be used as a "[[Cafeteria Christianity#Proof texts|proof text]]" against the Catholic Church. No other reason can explain the clear omission of a word that exists in every extant manuscript of Matthew 23:9. Some other versions have also done the same (NIV, NLT Living Bible, ISV, Aramaic English). Compare the [http://biblehub.com/multi/matthew/23-9.htm multiple versions of Matthew 23:9]. The versions that read "'''your''' father" are ESV, NASB, KJB/KJV, HCSB, NET, GOD'S WORD, Jubilee 2000, King James 2000, AKJV, ASV, Douay-Rheims, Darby, ERV, WBT, WNT, WEB, YLT.
 An example of an effective use of dynamic equivalence, which is too much for most modern translations of the Bible, is the [[Living Bible]]'s translation of Proverbs 16:27: