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-'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary and communist dictator who imposed one-party rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]].  He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[Communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955.  The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954.  Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969.  Ho was more a figurehead than a leader.  Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader.  "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light."  [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho).  This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames.  Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation.  Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou]].  After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
+'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary and communist dictator who imposed socialist authoritarian rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]].  He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[Communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955.  The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954.  Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969.  Ho was more a figurehead than a leader.  Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader.  "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light."  [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho).  This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames.  Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation.  Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou]].  After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
 ==Life and career ==

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 | birth        =19 May 1890, Nghe An Province, French Indochina
 | parents      =Nguyen Sinh Sac (father)
-| religion     =Atheist
+| religion     =Unknown<ref>Available sources attribute either traditional Vietnamese folk religion or atheism to Ho Chi Minh</ref>
 | education    =Educated in France
 | spouse       =[[Tang Tuyet Minh]]

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-'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary who imposed one-party rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]].  He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[Communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955.  The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954.  Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969.  Ho was more a figurehead than a leader.  Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader.  "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light."  [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho).  This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames.  Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation.  Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou]].  After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
+'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary and communist dictator who imposed one-party rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]].  He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[Communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955.  The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954.  Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969.  Ho was more a figurehead than a leader.  Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader.  "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light."  [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho).  This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames.  Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation.  Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou]].  After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
 ==Life and career ==

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 | name         =Ho Chi Minh
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-'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary who imposed one-party rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]]. He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955. The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954. Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969. Ho was more a figurehead than a leader. Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader. "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light." [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho). This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames. Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation. Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou.]] After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
+'''Ho Chi Minh''', born on May 19, 1890 as Nguyen Tat Thanh, was a [[Vietnam]]ese revolutionary who imposed one-party rule on North [[Vietnam]], dashing any hopes of it becoming a [[Democracy|democratic]] [[country]].  He was [[prime minister]] of the Viet Minh, a [[Communist]] proto-state, from 1945 to 1955.  The Viet Minh became the government of North Vietnam in 1954.  Ho became president in 1955 and held this position until [[death]] on September 2, 1969.  Ho was more a figurehead than a leader.  Although Le Duan, the [[political party|party boss]], maintained a lower profile, he was a more powerful leader.  "Ho" is a surname while "Chi Minh" means "the one who brings light."  [[Vietnamese]] generally call him ''Bác Hồ'' (Uncle Ho).  This phrase was coined in imitation of "Uncle Joe," one of [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]]'s nicknames.  Official [[propaganda]] stresses that Ho was celibate and dedicated only to welfare of the nation.  Few Vietnamese are aware that he was married to [[Tang Tuyet Minh]], a [[Chinese]] [[Catholic]] who lived in [[Guangzhou]].  After the [[Vietnam War]] ended in 1975, [[Saigon]] was renamed [[Ho Chi Minh City]].
 ==Life and career ==
-Nguyen Tat Thanh left Vietnam at the age of 20. He traveled to [[London]], [[New York]] and [[Paris]] and took different jobs (among others: worked as a [[ship]] steward, gardener, cook in a restaurant). While working on a ship he used name Nguyen Van Ba, then he returned to his original name.
+Nguyen Tat Thanh left Vietnam at the age of 20.  He traveled to [[London]], [[New York]] and [[Paris]] and took different jobs (among others: worked as a [[ship]] steward, gardener, cook in a restaurant).  While working on a ship he used name Nguyen Van Ba, then he returned to his original name.
-In 1919 he joined the [[French]] [[Socialist Party]] and in 1920, after the [[party]] fell apart, he become a member of the French [[Communist Party]]. He became an expert in [[colonialism]] issues. In 1922 he was delegated to [[Moscow]], where he studied the [[doctrine]] and techniques of communism.
+In 1919 he joined the [[French]] [[Socialist Party]] and in 1920, after the [[party]] fell apart, he become a member of the French [[Communist Party]].  He became an expert in [[colonialism]] issues.  In 1922 he was delegated to [[Moscow]], where he studied the [[doctrine]] and techniques of Communism.
-In  1925 he was sent to [[China]], officially as a staff member of the [[Soviet]] Consulate in [[Canton]], in fact as a [[Comintern]] agent. Then he became the Director of the Comintern Office in [[Shanghai]]. Since then, until the start of the [[Second World War]] he traveled a lot over [[Asia]].
+In 1925 he was sent to [[China]], officially as a staff member of the [[Soviet]] Consulate in [[Canton]], in fact as a [[Comintern]] agent.  Then he became the Director of the Comintern Office in [[Shanghai]].  Since then, until the start of the [[Second World War]] he traveled a lot over [[Asia]].
-* Ho throughout his life was a dedicated [[Communist international]]ist. In 1938 Ho went from [[Moscow]] to Moa's side at [[Yenan]].<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=NJcolGHWfzoC&pg=PA288&lpg=PA288&dq=chi+minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&source=bl&ots=MqYmygssrY&sig=HuS7BoXeptzMYrD_EJfYeEaZTMk&hl=en&ei=cVHDTY7UA5CPsgav0qneAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=chi%20minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&f=false [[OSS]] in China: prelude to Cold War], By Maochun Yu.</ref><ref>http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/12/understanding_r.html</ref>
+* Ho throughout his life was a dedicated [[Communist international]]ist.  In 1938 Ho went from [[Moscow]] to Moa's side at [[Yenan]].<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=NJcolGHWfzoC&pg=PA288&lpg=PA288&dq=chi+minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&source=bl&ots=MqYmygssrY&sig=HuS7BoXeptzMYrD_EJfYeEaZTMk&hl=en&ei=cVHDTY7UA5CPsgav0qneAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=chi%20minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&f=false [[OSS]] in China: prelude to Cold War], By Maochun Yu.</ref><ref>http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/12/understanding_r.html</ref>
 * Ho Chi Minh was a [[Nationalism|nationalist]] in the sense that he had a special affection for Vietnam's people and favored Vietnamese unification and independence, but, from his reading of [[Lenin]]’s Theses onward, he firmly adhered to the [[Leninist]] principle that Communist [[nation]]s should subordinate their interests to those of the international Communist movement.<ref>http://www.triumphforsaken.com/index.php?pr=Excerpt</ref>
-*Because of Ho Chi Minh drafting a Declaration of Independence that specifically referenced the American revolution, liberals (including most infamously Barack Obama) thought Ho Chi Minh was inspired by Thomas Jefferson, even though many stuff in Minh's declaration had stark differences from Jefferson's ideas (namely, placing more emphasis on the nation than on individual men), as well as faking admiration specifically to trick Americans into supporting his cause.<ref>https://www.wnd.com/2013/07/obama-ho-chi-minh-comment-echoes-kgb-disinformation/</ref>
+*Because of Ho Chi Minh drafting a Declaration of Independence that specifically referenced the American revolution, liberals (including most infamously Barack Obama) thought Ho Chi Minh was inspired by Thomas Jefferson, even though many stuff in Minh's declaration had stark differences from Jefferson's ideas (namely, placing more emphasis on the nation than on individual men), as well as faking admiration specifically to trick Americans into supporting his cause,<ref>https://www.wnd.com/2013/07/obama-ho-chi-minh-comment-echoes-kgb-disinformation/</ref> falling in line with the Communist use of [[deceit]] to fool the public into believing the opposite of the Communists' true intentions.
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 * Ho throughout his life was a dedicated [[Communist international]]ist. In 1938 Ho went from [[Moscow]] to Moa's side at [[Yenan]].<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=NJcolGHWfzoC&pg=PA288&lpg=PA288&dq=chi+minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&source=bl&ots=MqYmygssrY&sig=HuS7BoXeptzMYrD_EJfYeEaZTMk&hl=en&ei=cVHDTY7UA5CPsgav0qneAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CC4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=chi%20minh%2Bmao%2Byenan&f=false [[OSS]] in China: prelude to Cold War], By Maochun Yu.</ref><ref>http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/12/understanding_r.html</ref>
-* Ho Chi Minh was a [[Nationalism|nationalist]] in the sense that he had a special affection for Vietnam’s people and favored Vietnamese unification and independence, but, from his reading of [[Lenin]]’s Theses onward, he firmly adhered to the [[Leninist]] principle that Communist [[nation]]s should subordinate their interests to those of the international Communist movement.<ref>http://www.triumphforsaken.com/index.php?pr=Excerpt</ref>
+* Ho Chi Minh was a [[Nationalism|nationalist]] in the sense that he had a special affection for Vietnam's people and favored Vietnamese unification and independence, but, from his reading of [[Lenin]]’s Theses onward, he firmly adhered to the [[Leninist]] principle that Communist [[nation]]s should subordinate their interests to those of the international Communist movement.<ref>http://www.triumphforsaken.com/index.php?pr=Excerpt</ref>
 *Because of Ho Chi Minh drafting a Declaration of Independence that specifically referenced the American revolution, liberals (including most infamously Barack Obama) thought Ho Chi Minh was inspired by Thomas Jefferson, even though many stuff in Minh's declaration had stark differences from Jefferson's ideas (namely, placing more emphasis on the nation than on individual men), as well as faking admiration specifically to trick Americans into supporting his cause.<ref>https://www.wnd.com/2013/07/obama-ho-chi-minh-comment-echoes-kgb-disinformation/</ref>
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 *[http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left/vietnam/boatpeople3.pdf Nightmare at Sea Haunts Refugee Who Survived]  Communist ethnic cleansing and forced expulsions literally drove millions into the sea, where hundreds of thousands died.
 *[http://dartcenter.org/content/camp-z30-d-survivors Camp Survivors]  At least a million South Vietnamese were sent to concentration camps, with at least 165,000 never being seen again.
-*[https://web.archive.org/web/20030215155233/http://www.laohumrights.org/laowht02.html Genocide in Laos]  The Vietnamese and Laotian Communists waged a genocidal war against the Hmong tribesmen, with 100-300,000 dead.
+*[https://web.archive.org/web/20030215155233/http://www.laohumrights.org/laowht02.html Genocide in Laos]  The Vietnamese and Laotian Communists waged a genocidal war against the Hmong tribesmen, with 100–300,000 dead.
 *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaLwFvhWdZE Ho Chi Minh The Man and The Myth  Documentation on YouTube]