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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles ''[[a priori]]'' &amp;amp;#8212; thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;grounds -- the &lt;/del&gt;Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles ''[[a priori]]'' &amp;amp;#8212; thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;grounds—the &lt;/ins&gt;Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>DavidE: italics; internal link; changed double hyphen to em dash</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;italics; internal link; changed double hyphen to em dash&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by thinkers such as [[A. J.  Ayer]], [[Rudolf Carnap]] and the early [[Wittgenstein]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by thinkers such as [[A. J.  Ayer]], [[Rudolf Carnap]] and the early [[Wittgenstein]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-- &lt;/del&gt;thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''[[&lt;/ins&gt;a priori&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]]'' &amp;amp;#8212; &lt;/ins&gt;thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Toffeeman: Popper was not a Logical Positivist and argued against foundations, empirical or otherwise.  A. J. Ayer's rationality was circular and so a better example.</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Popper was not a Logical Positivist and argued against foundations, empirical or otherwise.  A. J. Ayer&amp;#039;s rationality was circular and so a better example.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Karl Popper&lt;/del&gt;]] &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;[[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;thinkers such as &lt;/ins&gt;[[&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;A. J.  Ayer&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;[[Rudolf Carnap&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] and the early [[Wittgenstein&lt;/ins&gt;]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Toffeeman</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Presuppositionalist_Metaphysics&amp;diff=261601&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>TerryH: Reverted edits by John (Talk); changed back to last version by Staple</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Reverted edits by &lt;a href=&quot;/Special:Contributions/John&quot; title=&quot;Special:Contributions/John&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=User_talk:John&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;User talk:John (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/a&gt;); changed back to last version by &lt;a href=&quot;/User:Staple&quot; title=&quot;User:Staple&quot;&gt;Staple&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/del&gt;, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}} &lt;/del&gt;that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/del&gt;, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}} &lt;/del&gt;logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/del&gt;.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/del&gt;.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>TerryH</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Presuppositionalist_Metaphysics&amp;diff=261576&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>John at 00:14, August 7, 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-08-07T00:14:26Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/ins&gt;, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}} &lt;/ins&gt;that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy{{fact}}, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy{{fact}}, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}} &lt;/ins&gt;logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/ins&gt;.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/ins&gt;.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>John</name></author>
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		<title>John at 18:34, July 23, 2007</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Presuppositionalist Metaphysics''' holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored [[philosophy]] that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;{{fact}}&lt;/ins&gt;, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>John</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Staple at 04:30, June 23, 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-23T04:30:32Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Stones at 04:27, June 23, 2007</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Stones</name></author>
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		<title>Stones: New page: Presuppositionalist Metaphysics holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored philosophy that is sti...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Presuppositionalist Metaphysics holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored philosophy that is sti...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Presuppositionalist Metaphysics holds that first principles should be discovered or known prior to developing an empirical method of inquiry.  This is a time-honored philosophy that is still held by [[Christian apologetics|apologists]] the world over.  In staunch contrast to presuppositionalism, [[logical positivism|logical positivists]] and [[pragmatism|pragmatists]] often seek, instead, to take the functionality of the empirical method as self-evident, and then infer ontological and cognitive stability from that.  This is an effort, in both cases, to dispense with metaphysics in favor of the materialistic philosophy espoused by [[Karl Popper]] and [[Rudolf Carnap]].  This method can be subjected to two critiques: 1) We are still engaging in presuppositionalism since we're now presupposing that science works or 2) This is circular reasoning because the goal is to find an ontological structure in the world which will allow materialistic methods to work by assuming that the materialistic methods work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Because apologists are often more careful in their philosophy, presuppositionalist metaphysics (being the only logical course of investigation in metaphysics) can then be used to infer a designer.  If first principles are obtained, then we have either obtained them by divine inspiration, or by our own investigation.  But to find them by our own investigation would require a functional method of empirical inquiry, which we cannot have without the first principles from which we might infer the appropriate method of empirical inquiry.  So, if we are to have a functional empirical method, we must possess the first principles a priori -- thus they have been given to us by God.  This is why [[creationism|creationists]] will often challenge [[darwinism|Darwinists]] on epistemological grounds -- the Darwinists have rigged the game by simply &amp;quot;defining away&amp;quot; the first principles which make knowledge possible while, for creationists, the methodology is based on the principles given by divine writ.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Stones</name></author>
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