Talk:Examples of Absurdities in Wikipedia - Revision history

Philip J. Rayment: My experience and observations.

2007-12-29T05:13:32Z

My experience and observations.

DanH at 04:43, December 29, 2007

2007-12-29T04:43:13Z

DanH at 04:42, December 29, 2007

2007-12-29T04:42:17Z

DanH at 04:42, December 29, 2007

2007-12-29T04:42:12Z

Aschlafly: comment

2007-12-29T04:40:39Z

comment

Philip J. Rayment: Listed for deletion

2007-12-29T04:37:22Z

Listed for deletion

Solstice: comments re Hornetman16

2007-11-26T23:02:29Z

comments re Hornetman16

HelpJazz: New page: I wonder, is this page necessary? I assume the user in question in the only example is the same user who created the page. Also, the link given contradicts the statement. The link says tha...

2007-11-26T21:32:23Z

New page: I wonder, is this page necessary? I assume the user in question in the only example is the same user who created the page. Also, the link given contradicts the statement. The link says tha...

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I wonder, is this page necessary? I assume the user in question in the only example is the same user who created the page. Also, the link given contradicts the statement. The link says that the user was blocked for being a persistent sock puppet, and no blocking discussion that I found centers around the fact that you are a Christian, despite the removal of that information from your page. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:32, 26 November 2007 (EST)

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	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian. He was banned for sockpuppetry. I've seen many Wikipedia user pages, including those of administrators, proclaim that the user is a Christian. [[User:DanH\|DanH]] 23:42, 28 December 2007 (EST)		:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian. He was banned for sockpuppetry. I've seen many Wikipedia user pages, including those of administrators, proclaim that the user is a Christian. [[User:DanH\|DanH]] 23:42, 28 December 2007 (EST)
		+	:::: As does my Wikipedia user page (although I'm a "normal" editor, not an administrator).
		+	:::: The problem with Wikipedia (well, ''one'' of its problems), is that the overt Christians, and particularly the creationists, are subjected to abuse and harassment. What happens next depends on how they react to that, particularly given that they often get 'pounced on', so that they feel that they are a lone voice in a sea of bigotry. Many react badly, firing abuse back, losing their temper, etc. ''This'' is what gets them banned. If, however, they keep their cool and put reasoned arguments, they will still get harassment and abuse in return, but they won't get banned. At least going on my observations and experience.
		+	:::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment\|Philip J. Rayment]] 00:13, 29 December 2007 (EST)

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	:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)		:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)

−	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian. [[User:DanH\|DanH]] 23:42, 28 December 2007 (EST)	+	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian. He was banned for sockpuppetry. I've seen many Wikipedia user pages, including those of administrators, proclaim that the user is a Christian. [[User:DanH\|DanH]] 23:42, 28 December 2007 (EST)

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	:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)		:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)

−	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian.	+	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian. [[User:DanH\|DanH]] 23:42, 28 December 2007 (EST)

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	:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)		:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)
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		+	:::Neither, because he clearly wasn't banned for the sole purpose of being a Christian.

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	One of the complaints about Hornetman16 (besides dozens of uses of images against Wikipedia policies, his sock puppetry, and his tendency to make false edits to pages) was that his user page looked, more or less, like a myspace page. The problem wasn't specifically his statement that he is a Christian, but that it didn't need to be formatted in < big> tags. Other eyesores were removed from his user page as well and he was chastised multiple times under WP:NOT#MYSPACE [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#MYSPACE]. There are thousands of Christian users with overtly Christian user pages on Wikipedia whose accounts are still active. - [[User:Solstice\|Solstice]]		One of the complaints about Hornetman16 (besides dozens of uses of images against Wikipedia policies, his sock puppetry, and his tendency to make false edits to pages) was that his user page looked, more or less, like a myspace page. The problem wasn't specifically his statement that he is a Christian, but that it didn't need to be formatted in < big> tags. Other eyesores were removed from his user page as well and he was chastised multiple times under WP:NOT#MYSPACE [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#MYSPACE]. There are thousands of Christian users with overtly Christian user pages on Wikipedia whose accounts are still active. - [[User:Solstice\|Solstice]]
	:Indeed, the claim that he was banned for being a Christian is, at best, clearly not the only reason, and likely not a reason at all. I've just [[Conservapedia:Desk\|listed]] it for deletion. [[User:Philip J. Rayment\|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:37, 28 December 2007 (EST)		:Indeed, the claim that he was banned for being a Christian is, at best, clearly not the only reason, and likely not a reason at all. I've just [[Conservapedia:Desk\|listed]] it for deletion. [[User:Philip J. Rayment\|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:37, 28 December 2007 (EST)
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		+	:: Fine, but are [[atheists]] banned in a similar manner? A series of [[Christian]] edits will get one banned on [[Wikipedia]], while a series of [[atheistic]] edits will get one promoted there.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 23:40, 28 December 2007 (EST)

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	One of the complaints about Hornetman16 (besides dozens of uses of images against Wikipedia policies, his sock puppetry, and his tendency to make false edits to pages) was that his user page looked, more or less, like a myspace page. The problem wasn't specifically his statement that he is a Christian, but that it didn't need to be formatted in < big> tags. Other eyesores were removed from his user page as well and he was chastised multiple times under WP:NOT#MYSPACE [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#MYSPACE]. There are thousands of Christian users with overtly Christian user pages on Wikipedia whose accounts are still active. - [[User:Solstice\|Solstice]]		One of the complaints about Hornetman16 (besides dozens of uses of images against Wikipedia policies, his sock puppetry, and his tendency to make false edits to pages) was that his user page looked, more or less, like a myspace page. The problem wasn't specifically his statement that he is a Christian, but that it didn't need to be formatted in < big> tags. Other eyesores were removed from his user page as well and he was chastised multiple times under WP:NOT#MYSPACE [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#MYSPACE]. There are thousands of Christian users with overtly Christian user pages on Wikipedia whose accounts are still active. - [[User:Solstice\|Solstice]]
		+	:Indeed, the claim that he was banned for being a Christian is, at best, clearly not the only reason, and likely not a reason at all. I've just [[Conservapedia:Desk\|listed]] it for deletion. [[User:Philip J. Rayment\|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:37, 28 December 2007 (EST)

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	I wonder, is this page necessary? I assume the user in question in the only example is the same user who created the page. Also, the link given contradicts the statement. The link says that the user was blocked for being a persistent sock puppet, and no blocking discussion that I found centers around the fact that you are a Christian, despite the removal of that information from your page. [[User:HelpJazz\|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz\|Jazz]] 16:32, 26 November 2007 (EST)		I wonder, is this page necessary? I assume the user in question in the only example is the same user who created the page. Also, the link given contradicts the statement. The link says that the user was blocked for being a persistent sock puppet, and no blocking discussion that I found centers around the fact that you are a Christian, despite the removal of that information from your page. [[User:HelpJazz\|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz\|Jazz]] 16:32, 26 November 2007 (EST)
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		+	One of the complaints about Hornetman16 (besides dozens of uses of images against Wikipedia policies, his sock puppetry, and his tendency to make false edits to pages) was that his user page looked, more or less, like a myspace page. The problem wasn't specifically his statement that he is a Christian, but that it didn't need to be formatted in < big> tags. Other eyesores were removed from his user page as well and he was chastised multiple times under WP:NOT#MYSPACE [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#MYSPACE]. There are thousands of Christian users with overtly Christian user pages on Wikipedia whose accounts are still active. - [[User:Solstice\|Solstice]]