Talk:Heterosexuality - Revision history

Hright12 at 02:04, January 8, 2011

2011-01-08T02:04:30Z

Ed Poor: an idea for LT

2008-08-30T15:19:36Z

an idea for LT

TimS: Reverted edits by Falcifer (Talk); changed back to last version by Ed Poor

2008-01-16T23:45:16Z

Reverted edits by Falcifer (Talk); changed back to last version by Ed Poor

Falcifer at 23:36, January 16, 2008

2008-01-16T23:36:05Z

Ed Poor: /* In response to Learn together over the defenition of the term */

2008-01-16T23:29:29Z

‎In response to Learn together over the defenition of the term

Falcifer: In response to Learn together over the defenition of the term

2008-01-16T23:13:39Z

In response to Learn together over the defenition of the term

Porthos at 15:02, August 19, 2007

2007-08-19T15:02:27Z

Evan: Skewed Statistics and Biased Views

2007-07-13T04:03:38Z

Skewed Statistics and Biased Views

Porthos at 17:44, July 11, 2007

2007-07-11T17:44:35Z

Ed Poor: /* Activity? */ Don't fall for this liberal trick!!

2007-07-11T17:37:44Z

‎Activity?: Don't fall for this liberal trick!!

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	At Wikipedia, I once worked with some writers on Old Testament rules on marriage and so forth. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:19, 30 August 2008 (EDT)		At Wikipedia, I once worked with some writers on Old Testament rules on marriage and so forth. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:19, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
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		+	==Terms==
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		+	People have complained that the use of the term "sexual orientation" implies a false moral equivalency between homosexuality and bisexuality and heterosexuality. What alternative categorization is more acceptable to use in place of "sexual orientation"?

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	We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].		We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].
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		+	==Biblical teachings==
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		+	LT, you [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Heterosexuality&diff=next&oldid=494985 removed some quotes] which were obviously being used '''against''' Conservative morality, but can we not find a way to place these quotes in their proper context?
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		+	At Wikipedia, I once worked with some writers on Old Testament rules on marriage and so forth. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:19, 30 August 2008 (EDT)

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 *Some lower forms of life such as worms have both sex organs and can reproduce apart from having a partner.
 We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].
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-Actually, a number of creatures reproduce through other means, like the worms. I believe there is also a species of lizard that has only females and is able to reproduce- I'm not sure of how exactly but it does involve these females performing certain 'acts'. Anyhow, you are quite right- animals supposedly don't have the same fellings of 'atraction' as we do so descriptions such as these may not be accurate. --[[User:Falcifer|Falcifer]] 18:36, 16 January 2008 (EST)

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	*Some lower forms of life such as worms have both sex organs and can reproduce apart from having a partner.		*Some lower forms of life such as worms have both sex organs and can reproduce apart from having a partner.

−	We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].	+	We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].
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		+	Actually, a number of creatures reproduce through other means, like the worms. I believe there is also a species of lizard that has only females and is able to reproduce- I'm not sure of how exactly but it does involve these females performing certain 'acts'. Anyhow, you are quite right- animals supposedly don't have the same fellings of 'atraction' as we do so descriptions such as these may not be accurate. --[[User:Falcifer\|Falcifer]] 18:36, 16 January 2008 (EST)

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	You seem to be confusing the term 'Heterosexuality' with the term 'sexual reproduction'- human beings reproduce via the latter. 'Heterosexuality' refers to an attraction to members of the opposite gender and has little to do with reproducton at all. --[[User:Falcifer\|Falcifer]] 18:13, 16 January 2008 (EST)		You seem to be confusing the term 'Heterosexuality' with the term 'sexual reproduction'- human beings reproduce via the latter. 'Heterosexuality' refers to an attraction to members of the opposite gender and has little to do with reproducton at all. --[[User:Falcifer\|Falcifer]] 18:13, 16 January 2008 (EST)
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		+	*Some lower forms of life such as worms have both sex organs and can reproduce apart from having a partner.
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		+	We only need terms like heterosexuality when discussing aberrations like [[homosexuality]]. When it comes to animals, there's only one way of reproducing, so the term never comes up; it's just called [[sexual reproduction]].

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	The first sentence describes heterosexuality as the means by which humans and animals reproduce. That's not technically true. Heterosexual <i>sex</i> is the means by which reproduction occurs. Being heterosexual but not having sex will not produce offspring.--[[User:Porthos\|Porthos]] 11:02, 19 August 2007 (EDT)		The first sentence describes heterosexuality as the means by which humans and animals reproduce. That's not technically true. Heterosexual <i>sex</i> is the means by which reproduction occurs. Being heterosexual but not having sex will not produce offspring.--[[User:Porthos\|Porthos]] 11:02, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
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		+	== In response to Learn together over the defenition of the term ==
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		+	[[User:Learn together\|LT]] asked "You believe it's inaccurate to say that people reproduce through heterosexuality?"
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		+	You seem to be confusing the term 'Heterosexuality' with the term 'sexual reproduction'- human beings reproduce via the latter. 'Heterosexuality' refers to an attraction to members of the opposite gender and has little to do with reproducton at all. --[[User:Falcifer\|Falcifer]] 18:13, 16 January 2008 (EST)

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	Ummm...I'm just wondering why there are no statistics about STD's and mental disorders listed under this topic. It seems like all the negatives that are associated with homosexuals were posted on the Homosexual article, but I don't see anything saying that heterosexuals have mental disorders and sexually transmitted diseases and the statistics showing their promiscuity. I mean...I understand that this is CONSERVApedia....but I don't think many article writers take into account the non-Christian, non-white, non-heterosexual community that consider themselves "conservative."		Ummm...I'm just wondering why there are no statistics about STD's and mental disorders listed under this topic. It seems like all the negatives that are associated with homosexuals were posted on the Homosexual article, but I don't see anything saying that heterosexuals have mental disorders and sexually transmitted diseases and the statistics showing their promiscuity. I mean...I understand that this is CONSERVApedia....but I don't think many article writers take into account the non-Christian, non-white, non-heterosexual community that consider themselves "conservative."
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		+	==Meaning of Heterosexuality==
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		+	The first sentence describes heterosexuality as the means by which humans and animals reproduce. That's not technically true. Heterosexual <i>sex</i> is the means by which reproduction occurs. Being heterosexual but not having sex will not produce offspring.--[[User:Porthos\|Porthos]] 11:02, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

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	:Huh? What's a neutral fact, when it comes to religious values? --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 13:31, 11 July 2007 (EDT)		:Huh? What's a neutral fact, when it comes to religious values? --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 13:31, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
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		+	== Skewed Statistics and Biased Views ==
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		+	Ummm...I'm just wondering why there are no statistics about STD's and mental disorders listed under this topic. It seems like all the negatives that are associated with homosexuals were posted on the Homosexual article, but I don't see anything saying that heterosexuals have mental disorders and sexually transmitted diseases and the statistics showing their promiscuity. I mean...I understand that this is CONSERVApedia....but I don't think many article writers take into account the non-Christian, non-white, non-heterosexual community that consider themselves "conservative."

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	:::When I have time, I'll explain more about why [[homosexuality]] is a sin - both as a desire ([[sinful desire]] and as an act ([[sinful act]]). --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 13:37, 11 July 2007 (EDT)		:::When I have time, I'll explain more about why [[homosexuality]] is a sin - both as a desire ([[sinful desire]] and as an act ([[sinful act]]). --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 13:37, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
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		+	::::We need to distinguish between sexual orientation and sexual activity. A heterosexual person is a person who is attracted to a member of the other gender regardless of whether that person has ever actually had sex. A heterosexual virgin is still heterosexual. The same is true in reverse. A homosexual person is homosexual even if that person never in his entire life has sex with a member of the same gender. If a homosexual has sex with a person of the opposite sex, or vice versa he is still a homosexual, he has simply engaged in heterosexual activity.--[[User:Porthos\|Porthos]] 13:44, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

	==Heterosexuality is not "the" natural sexual attration - it is a natural sexual orientation==		==Heterosexuality is not "the" natural sexual attration - it is a natural sexual orientation==

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	::"sexual activity" could include kissing etc, but probably doesn't include sitting on the other side of the classroom ''watching'' the girl of his dreams/boy of her dreams. I'm on the "orientation" side of the orientation/activity fence. --[[User:Scott\|Scott]] 10:22, 28 April 2007 (EDT)		::"sexual activity" could include kissing etc, but probably doesn't include sitting on the other side of the classroom ''watching'' the girl of his dreams/boy of her dreams. I'm on the "orientation" side of the orientation/activity fence. --[[User:Scott\|Scott]] 10:22, 28 April 2007 (EDT)
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		+	:::Don't be lured into this debate. It's a typical tactic of homosexuality advocates to quibble about such definitions. What they want to imply is that it's okay to "be homosexual" ''even in terms of Christian values'' as long as they don't violate church rules on behavior.
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		+	:::Jesus covered that with his "look of lust" rule in Matthew 5:27-28 which says:
		+	*27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
		+	*28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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		+	:::When I have time, I'll explain more about why [[homosexuality]] is a sin - both as a desire ([[sinful desire]] and as an act ([[sinful act]]). --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 13:37, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

	==Heterosexuality is not "the" natural sexual attration - it is a natural sexual orientation==		==Heterosexuality is not "the" natural sexual attration - it is a natural sexual orientation==