Talk:Microevolution - Revision history

Jpatt: Reverted edits by RenegaDO (talk) to last revision by Karajou

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Reverted edits by RenegaDO (talk) to last revision by Karajou

RenegaDO: /* It's all good */ new section

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‎It's all good: new section

Karajou: Reverted edits by Rightwingthing (Talk) to last version by Pandeism

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Reverted edits by Rightwingthing (Talk) to last version by Pandeism

Rightwingthing at 15:06, February 22, 2010

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Pandeism: /* Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation */ quote marks

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‎Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation: quote marks

Pandeism: Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation

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Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation

Learn together: /* Bacteria */

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‎Bacteria

Tims: /* Bacteria */

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‎Bacteria

RSchlafly: definition of microevolution doesn't match the description of bacteria

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definition of microevolution doesn't match the description of bacteria

ColinR at 03:47, March 12, 2007

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	Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)		Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
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	Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)		Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
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		+	Honestly, well explained and detailed. Don't believe in this god bollocks!

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	Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)		Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
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−	~~Isn't this the same as evolution? The definition is the same almost. I don't know. This seems like a thing for scientists and philosophers to argue about.~~

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	Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)		Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
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 This is completely incorrect.  Microevolution is changes to an organism on the micro level through mutations, nothing more, nothing less.  Natural selection allows those changes that are positive for a given environment to win out, but has nothing to do with evolution, which is change.  In other words natural selection does not involve creating change, but only works with what is there.  Microevolution is the act of change.  So basically guys, I'm deleting the statement.  If anyone disagrees then please let me know. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
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+== "Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation".... ==
 Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

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	This is completely incorrect. Microevolution is changes to an organism on the micro level through mutations, nothing more, nothing less. Natural selection allows those changes that are positive for a given environment to win out, but has nothing to do with evolution, which is change. In other words natural selection does not involve creating change, but only works with what is there. Microevolution is the act of change. So basically guys, I'm deleting the statement. If anyone disagrees then please let me know. [[User:Learn together\|Learn together]] 17:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)		This is completely incorrect. Microevolution is changes to an organism on the micro level through mutations, nothing more, nothing less. Natural selection allows those changes that are positive for a given environment to win out, but has nothing to do with evolution, which is change. In other words natural selection does not involve creating change, but only works with what is there. Microevolution is the act of change. So basically guys, I'm deleting the statement. If anyone disagrees then please let me know. [[User:Learn together\|Learn together]] 17:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	== Resistance genes can also be produced by random mutation ==
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		+	Can we have more explanation about how that works? [[User:Pandeism\|Pandeism]] 12:34, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

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	It is not microevolution if the bacteria are passing the antibiotic resistance between each other through lateral transfer (horizontal gene transfer). This transfer by the way is done using plasimids. Now if the mutation occurs within the bacteria's chromosomal DNA outside the influence of the plasmid then it would be considered a form of divergent evolution. This has been shown to occur in the lab by exposing the bacteria to an enviroment of a perticular type of antibiotic.--[[User:Tims\|TimS]] 15:43, 4 May 2007 (EDT)		It is not microevolution if the bacteria are passing the antibiotic resistance between each other through lateral transfer (horizontal gene transfer). This transfer by the way is done using plasimids. Now if the mutation occurs within the bacteria's chromosomal DNA outside the influence of the plasmid then it would be considered a form of divergent evolution. This has been shown to occur in the lab by exposing the bacteria to an enviroment of a perticular type of antibiotic.--[[User:Tims\|TimS]] 15:43, 4 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	== This is wrong ==
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		+	"Microevolution, narrowly defined, is the theory that natural selection can, over time, increase the overall reproductive fitness of a species."
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		+	This is completely incorrect. Microevolution is changes to an organism on the micro level through mutations, nothing more, nothing less. Natural selection allows those changes that are positive for a given environment to win out, but has nothing to do with evolution, which is change. In other words natural selection does not involve creating change, but only works with what is there. Microevolution is the act of change. So basically guys, I'm deleting the statement. If anyone disagrees then please let me know. [[User:Learn together\|Learn together]] 17:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

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	== Bacteria ==		== Bacteria ==
	I think that his article is confusing because the definition of microevolution doesn't match the description of bacteria very well. In particular, the discussion of bacteria includes horizontal gene transfer but the preceding text does not. When "bacteria can pass genes for antibiotic resistance between strains and even between species", is that microevolution or not? [[User:RSchlafly\|RSchlafly]] 14:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)		I think that his article is confusing because the definition of microevolution doesn't match the description of bacteria very well. In particular, the discussion of bacteria includes horizontal gene transfer but the preceding text does not. When "bacteria can pass genes for antibiotic resistance between strains and even between species", is that microevolution or not? [[User:RSchlafly\|RSchlafly]] 14:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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		+	It is not microevolution if the bacteria are passing the antibiotic resistance between each other through lateral transfer (horizontal gene transfer). This transfer by the way is done using plasimids. Now if the mutation occurs within the bacteria's chromosomal DNA outside the influence of the plasmid then it would be considered a form of divergent evolution. This has been shown to occur in the lab by exposing the bacteria to an enviroment of a perticular type of antibiotic.--[[User:Tims\|TimS]] 15:43, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

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	The paragraph about microevolution dealing with "micro" organisms and macroevolution dealing with "macro" organisms is completely ridiculous and should be removed. --[[User:ColinR\|ColinR]] 23:47, 11 March 2007 (EDT)		The paragraph about microevolution dealing with "micro" organisms and macroevolution dealing with "macro" organisms is completely ridiculous and should be removed. --[[User:ColinR\|ColinR]] 23:47, 11 March 2007 (EDT)
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		+	== Bacteria ==
		+	I think that his article is confusing because the definition of microevolution doesn't match the description of bacteria very well. In particular, the discussion of bacteria includes horizontal gene transfer but the preceding text does not. When "bacteria can pass genes for antibiotic resistance between strains and even between species", is that microevolution or not? [[User:RSchlafly\|RSchlafly]] 14:27, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

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	::: Um, part of the issue here is that I don't think your sources support that claim. (Now, I think that depending on context, microevolution and macroevolution can mean very different things, but the defintions you are using seem to be close to unique to one A. Schlafly). [[User:JoshuaZ\|JoshuaZ]] 01:41, 12 February 2007 (EST)		::: Um, part of the issue here is that I don't think your sources support that claim. (Now, I think that depending on context, microevolution and macroevolution can mean very different things, but the defintions you are using seem to be close to unique to one A. Schlafly). [[User:JoshuaZ\|JoshuaZ]] 01:41, 12 February 2007 (EST)

−	The paragraph about microevolution dealing with "micro" organisms and macroevolution dealing with "macro" organisms is completely ridiculous and should be removed.	+	The paragraph about microevolution dealing with "micro" organisms and macroevolution dealing with "macro" organisms is completely ridiculous and should be removed. --[[User:ColinR\|ColinR]] 23:47, 11 March 2007 (EDT)