Talk:O’Sullivan’s First Law - Revision history

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RobSmith: /* Big picture view of the USD: 25 year history plus additional commentary */

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‎Big picture view of the USD: 25 year history plus additional commentary

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RobSmith: /* Big picture view of the USD: 25 year history plus additional commentary */

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	==[[Trump]]'s right, [[NRA]] is wrong==		==[[Trump]]'s right, [[NRA]] is wrong==
	IMO, it would be better to keep one's mouth shut and let things develop rather than take a stand like this. Now we are seeing ''how'' O'Sullivan's Law came into existence. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>		IMO, it would be better to keep one's mouth shut and let things develop rather than take a stand like this. Now we are seeing ''how'' O'Sullivan's Law came into existence. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>
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		+	Besides trashing to prominent [[pro-life]] [[useful idiot]] [[Marjorie Taylor Greene]], it's not the right hill to die on. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 15:44, January 28, 2026 (EST)

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−	IMO, it would be better to keep one's mouth shut and let things develop rather than take a stand like this. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>	+	IMO, it would be better to keep one's mouth shut and let things develop rather than take a stand like this. Now we are seeing ''how'' O'Sullivan's Law came into existence. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>

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		+	==[[Trump]]'s right, [[NRA]] is wrong==
		+	IMO, it would be better to keep one's mouth shut and let things develop rather than take a stand like this. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>

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 :::I just read your [[AI]] [[spam]] - you obviously did not. Beginning with the response to first question: "What are the factors that prevent the USD from going down more than it has? 1. Higher rates attract [[capital]]: When the [[Federal Reserve]] raises [[interest rate]]s, U.S. assets (like [[Treasury bond]]s) become more attractive to global investors."
 :::Is this why [[Trump]] has been trying to fire Fed Chairman Powell for a year, cause Powell will not cut interest rates? or why he has him under [[criminal]] investigation?
 ::Interesting. However this discussion is about the [[debt ceiling]], not all the [[inflated]] illusions created by [[Keynesianism]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:33, January 25, 2026 (EST)

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	*[https://chatgpt.com/share/6976a588-1b54-8003-b3c8-f9189b41c54b What are the factors that prevent the USD from going down more than it has? What will most likely cause the USD to go up in the future if it does? When is the USD expected to go up again?] [[User:Conservative\|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative\|talk]]) 18:25, January 25, 2026 (EST)		*[https://chatgpt.com/share/6976a588-1b54-8003-b3c8-f9189b41c54b What are the factors that prevent the USD from going down more than it has? What will most likely cause the USD to go up in the future if it does? When is the USD expected to go up again?] [[User:Conservative\|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative\|talk]]) 18:25, January 25, 2026 (EST)
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		+	:::I just read your [[AI]] [[spam]] - you obviously did not. Beginning with the response to first question: "What are the factors that prevent the USD from going down more than it has? 1. Higher rates attract [[capital]]: When the [[Federal Reserve]] raises [[interest rate]]s, U.S. assets (like [[Treasury bond]]s) become more attractive to global investors."
		+	:::Is this why [[Trump]] has been trying to fire Fed Chairman Powell for a year, cause Powell will not cut interest rates? or why he has him under [[criminal]] investigation?

	::Interesting. However this discussion is about the [[debt ceiling]], not all the [[inflated]] illusions created by [[Keynesianism]]. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:33, January 25, 2026 (EST)		::Interesting. However this discussion is about the [[debt ceiling]], not all the [[inflated]] illusions created by [[Keynesianism]]. [[User:RobSmith\|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith\|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:33, January 25, 2026 (EST)

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 :::Basically, it's why [[Congress]] passed the [[Obama stimulus]] in 2009 and the [[Covid]] [[CARES Act]] in 2020 - to keep the dollar index stable. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 19:59, January 25, 2026 (EST)
-:::It was only borrowing - increasing the [[debt limit]] and [[national debt]] - that [[Congress]] and the [[Federal Reserve]] could keep the dollar index propped up (stable). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 21:31, January 25, 2026 (EST)
+:::It was only borrowing - increasing the [[debt limit]] and [[national debt]] - that [[Congress]] and the [[Federal Reserve]] could keep the dollar index propped up (or "stable"). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 21:31, January 25, 2026 (EST)
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 <big>'''80% of all [[dollar]]s were created in the past 5 years'''</big>
-[[File:Screenshot-2026-01-12-125605.png|center|650px|thumb|]]
+[[File:Screenshot-2026-01-12-125605.png|center|650px|thumb|M1 up to November 26, 2024.]]
 [[User:Conservative]]'s chart, which purports to show a 20 year record, needs to be inflation adjusted downward 80%. In real terms, neither the US economy nor US labor productivity has increased 80% in the past 5 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 19:46, January 25, 2026 (EST)

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 ::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_8fff83d4-618f-4be8-8d30-376a94e5b5ad 80% of all dollars were created in the past 5 years. True or untrue?]
-::'''Summary:''' "The claim that 80% of all U.S. dollars were created in the past 5 years is false—a widely circulated exaggeration. Using M2 (the standard broad money supply measure): Current M2 (late 2025/early 2026): ~$22.3 trillion. 5 years ago (early 2021): Already ~$19–19.5 trillion. Even from pre-pandemic (Jan 2020: ~$15.4 trillion), the increase is only ~$7 trillion, or roughly 30–32% of today's total. The "80%" figure usually comes from misreading the 2020 M1 reclassification spike or outdated pandemic-era claims. Actual new money creation over the last 5 years is closer to 15–35% of the current supply, depending on exact dates—not 80%." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:55, January 25, 2026 (EST)
+::'''Summary:''' "The claim that 80% of all U.S. dollars were created in the past 5 years is false—a widely circulated exaggeration. Using M2
 :::Your in over your depth. You already violated a basic rule of rational discussion - bringing in [[AI]] [[claptrap]] to make futile points.