Talk:Sun Myung Moon - Revision history

Ed Poor: Age: Western vs. Korean, currently off by 2

2012-02-03T04:05:53Z

Age: Western vs. Korean, currently off by 2

PaulBurnett: /* Accident= */ link barfs

2010-08-23T02:09:11Z

‎Accident=: link barfs

Ed Poor: /* Fiat Doblos */ link is incorrect

2010-01-22T21:57:53Z

‎Fiat Doblos: link is incorrect

Jpatt: Fiat

2010-01-22T04:34:54Z

Fiat

Pakhyongshin: Unlock :):):)

2008-08-08T03:31:17Z

Unlock :):):)

RobCross: can't add helicopter accident-article locked

2008-07-19T19:33:19Z

can't add helicopter accident-article locked

Ed Poor: Reverted edits by StanleyAccrington (Talk); changed back to last version by Ed Poor

2008-07-07T23:19:44Z

Reverted edits by StanleyAccrington (Talk); changed back to last version by Ed Poor

StanleyAccrington: Surely we should not allow such articles?

2008-07-07T23:13:00Z

Surely we should not allow such articles?

Ed Poor: edit war seen as undesirable

2008-04-30T15:09:12Z

edit war seen as undesirable

Ed Poor: logic in theology

2008-04-17T13:45:26Z

logic in theology

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 Detractors sometimes say he "thinks he is God", but that is in contradiction to his teachings and public statements. This could stem from a superficial interpretation of [[Unification Theology]].
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 If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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 I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today] (invalid URL), but the article is locked.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

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-I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today], but the article is locked.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
+I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today] (invalid URL), but the article is locked.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
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	==Fiat Doblos==		==Fiat Doblos==
	Interesting tidbit on Moon I found on Fox. [http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/leisure/auto/2009/10/28/car-clicks?slide=12] --[[User:Jpatt\|Jpatt]] 23:34, 21 January 2010 (EST)		Interesting tidbit on Moon I found on Fox. [http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/leisure/auto/2009/10/28/car-clicks?slide=12] --[[User:Jpatt\|Jpatt]] 23:34, 21 January 2010 (EST)
		+	:I think you meant slide 13, and Rev. Moon doesn't own any part of the car company. The church - not its founder - is the owner of all "church-related businesses".
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		+	:And Rev. Moon doesn't even control a lot of those businesses, because they have independent [[board of directors\|boards of directors]]. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 16:57, 22 January 2010 (EST)

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	Please unlock so i can add to article.--[[User:Pakhyongshin\|Pakhyongshin]] 23:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)		Please unlock so i can add to article.--[[User:Pakhyongshin\|Pakhyongshin]] 23:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
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		+	==Fiat Doblos==
		+	Interesting tidbit on Moon I found on Fox. [http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/leisure/auto/2009/10/28/car-clicks?slide=12] --[[User:Jpatt\|Jpatt]] 23:34, 21 January 2010 (EST)

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	I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today], but the article is locked. [[User:RobCross\|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)		I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today], but the article is locked. [[User:RobCross\|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
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		+	Please unlock so i can add to article.--[[User:Pakhyongshin\|Pakhyongshin]] 23:31, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

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	If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)		If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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		+	==Accident===
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		+	I wanted to add mention of Rev. Moon's [http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/07/19/moon.crash.ap/index.html helicopter accident today], but the article is locked. [[User:RobCross\|RobCross]] 15:33, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

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	If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)		If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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−	~~==Should we have such articles?==~~
−	Must we have articles in a Christian website about such cult figures as these Unificationists or Mormons? I am always wary of my children learning about Cults of Personality like these, they are little more than sham religions established by people who wish to be seen as figureheads - like David Koresh or others, who wish to build a myth about themselves. I recommend there not be such articles here. [[User:StanleyAccrington\|StanleyAccrington]] 19:12, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

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	If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)		If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)
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		+	==Should we have such articles?==
		+	Must we have articles in a Christian website about such cult figures as these Unificationists or Mormons? I am always wary of my children learning about Cults of Personality like these, they are little more than sham religions established by people who wish to be seen as figureheads - like David Koresh or others, who wish to build a myth about themselves. I recommend there not be such articles here. [[User:StanleyAccrington\|StanleyAccrington]] 19:12, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

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	This is not a very interesting point of theology, unless (A) you are a Unificationist or (B) you have some curiosity about the differences between Unification Theology and what mainstream Christians believe. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 17 April 2008 (EDT)		This is not a very interesting point of theology, unless (A) you are a Unificationist or (B) you have some curiosity about the differences between Unification Theology and what mainstream Christians believe. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
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		+	==Sources==
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		+	I have been a member the Unification Church my entire adult life and am the Internet's leading authority on it. I have access to the same public information as everyone else, of course, as well as inside information.
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		+	The quotations I deleted are unreliable.
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		+	If you want to start a debate, we have [[Debate Topics]] for that.
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		+	If you want to post a balance of pro and con views, there is a way to do that. But it didn't seem like that was the aim today. --[[User:Ed Poor\|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor\|Talk]]</sup> 11:09, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

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	Mainstream Christianity's view of the [[Trinity]] asserts that Jesus is God. Coupled with the mainstream view that Jesus is the Messiah, one could conclude that the Messiah is God.		Mainstream Christianity's view of the [[Trinity]] asserts that Jesus is God. Coupled with the mainstream view that Jesus is the Messiah, one could conclude that the Messiah is God.
		+	#Jesus is God
		+	#Jesus is the Messiah
		+	#Thus, the Messiah is God

	Rev. Moon's followers believe that he is the Messiah. Ignoring the Unificationist concept of the Trinity, one might reason as follows:		Rev. Moon's followers believe that he is the Messiah. Ignoring the Unificationist concept of the Trinity, one might reason as follows: