Talk:Titusville - Revision history

Flippin: /* Oil v. Ethanol */

2007-05-09T17:57:29Z

‎Oil v. Ethanol

Rob Pommer: /* Oil v. Ethanol */

2007-05-09T17:06:12Z

‎Oil v. Ethanol

Flippin: Oil v. Ethanol

2007-05-09T16:53:18Z

Oil v. Ethanol

Rob Pommer at 16:52, May 9, 2007

2007-05-09T16:52:31Z

DrSandstone at 16:50, May 9, 2007

2007-05-09T16:50:19Z

Rob Pommer: Not right

2007-05-09T16:45:57Z

Not right

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I believe the first sentence is misinformed at best.

Titusville is where the first oil well was sunk for commercial reasons.
Oil had previously been know at other locations throughout the world as in some places the oil simply bubbled forth on the surface...there just wasn't any obvious '''use''' for it yet. Once the physical properties of [[petroleum]] were known and that with the art of "cracking", ([[distill| distillation]]) of the oil into "useful" products the next logical step was to find oil that had not bubbled to the surface but was "waiting" to be tapped into. The only "market" at the time was that of lighting, mostly home lighting through the use of oil lamps. (On a related note it was observed, sometimes dramatically, that the "air" forcing the oil out was also burnable for light, hence the early use of gaslighting in cities.) Also interesting, the fledgling petroleum industry would have been considered "Green" in its day as it sought to replace whale oil, a fast dwindling commodity as the whale population was on the decline at the time. [[User:Rob Pommer| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]</sub> 12:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

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	:True. Then again the article is about Titusville so's maybe it ought to stay OT for a while before wandering away. Do we have an [[ethanol]] page? Ah yes, we do...however it doesn't seem to go into the debate over whether corn [[maize]] is the best way to go for producing ethanol, (it isn't) hemp would be better, sugar beets even better than that but the PTB in the agriculture industry seem to be pushing for corn as the "waste" products could still (NPI) be used as feed, albeit a lower grade feed. --[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 13:06, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		:True. Then again the article is about Titusville so's maybe it ought to stay OT for a while before wandering away. Do we have an [[ethanol]] page? Ah yes, we do...however it doesn't seem to go into the debate over whether corn [[maize]] is the best way to go for producing ethanol, (it isn't) hemp would be better, sugar beets even better than that but the PTB in the agriculture industry seem to be pushing for corn as the "waste" products could still (NPI) be used as feed, albeit a lower grade feed. --[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 13:06, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
		+	::Yeah, I'm watching algae and switchgrass myself--but the real winner there is biodiesel IMHO. Just a thought, but some of the work that lead to T'ville's disc. was because of ethanol. Just thought I poke my nose in. [[User:Flippin\|Flippin]] 13:57, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

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	It might be pointed out that before Titusville, many other fuels were being considered. [[User:Flippin\|Flippin]] 12:53, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		It might be pointed out that before Titusville, many other fuels were being considered. [[User:Flippin\|Flippin]] 12:53, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	:True. Then again the article is about Titusville so's maybe it ought to stay OT for a while before wandering away. Do we have an [[ethanol]] page? Ah yes, we do...however it doesn't seem to go into the debate over whether corn [[maize]] is the best way to go for producing ethanol, (it isn't) hemp would be better, sugar beets even better than that but the PTB in the agriculture industry seem to be pushing for corn as the "waste" products could still (NPI) be used as feed, albeit a lower grade feed. --[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 13:06, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

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	:Yeah, add that stuff. [[User:DrSandstone\|DrSandstone]] 12:50, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		:Yeah, add that stuff. [[User:DrSandstone\|DrSandstone]] 12:50, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
	::I have no cites and don't wish to find them. Thanks though for the thought.[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub>		::I have no cites and don't wish to find them. Thanks though for the thought.[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub>
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		+	== Oil v. Ethanol ==
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		+	It might be pointed out that before Titusville, many other fuels were being considered. [[User:Flippin\|Flippin]] 12:53, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

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	Oil had previously been know at other locations throughout the world as in some places the oil simply bubbled forth on the surface...there just wasn't any obvious '''use''' for it yet. Once the physical properties of [[petroleum]] were known and that with the art of "cracking", ([[distill\| distillation]]) of the oil into "useful" products the next logical step was to find oil that had not bubbled to the surface but was "waiting" to be tapped into. The only "market" at the time was that of lighting, mostly home lighting through the use of oil lamps. (On a related note it was observed, sometimes dramatically, that the "air" forcing the oil out was also burnable for light, hence the early use of gaslighting in cities.) Also interesting, the fledgling petroleum industry would have been considered "Green" in its day as it sought to replace whale oil, a fast dwindling commodity as the whale population was on the decline at the time. [[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 12:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		Oil had previously been know at other locations throughout the world as in some places the oil simply bubbled forth on the surface...there just wasn't any obvious '''use''' for it yet. Once the physical properties of [[petroleum]] were known and that with the art of "cracking", ([[distill\| distillation]]) of the oil into "useful" products the next logical step was to find oil that had not bubbled to the surface but was "waiting" to be tapped into. The only "market" at the time was that of lighting, mostly home lighting through the use of oil lamps. (On a related note it was observed, sometimes dramatically, that the "air" forcing the oil out was also burnable for light, hence the early use of gaslighting in cities.) Also interesting, the fledgling petroleum industry would have been considered "Green" in its day as it sought to replace whale oil, a fast dwindling commodity as the whale population was on the decline at the time. [[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 12:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
	:Yeah, add that stuff. [[User:DrSandstone\|DrSandstone]] 12:50, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		:Yeah, add that stuff. [[User:DrSandstone\|DrSandstone]] 12:50, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
		+	::I have no cites and don't wish to find them. Thanks though for the thought.[[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub>

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	Titusville is where the first oil well was sunk for commercial reasons.		Titusville is where the first oil well was sunk for commercial reasons.
	Oil had previously been know at other locations throughout the world as in some places the oil simply bubbled forth on the surface...there just wasn't any obvious '''use''' for it yet. Once the physical properties of [[petroleum]] were known and that with the art of "cracking", ([[distill\| distillation]]) of the oil into "useful" products the next logical step was to find oil that had not bubbled to the surface but was "waiting" to be tapped into. The only "market" at the time was that of lighting, mostly home lighting through the use of oil lamps. (On a related note it was observed, sometimes dramatically, that the "air" forcing the oil out was also burnable for light, hence the early use of gaslighting in cities.) Also interesting, the fledgling petroleum industry would have been considered "Green" in its day as it sought to replace whale oil, a fast dwindling commodity as the whale population was on the decline at the time. [[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 12:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)		Oil had previously been know at other locations throughout the world as in some places the oil simply bubbled forth on the surface...there just wasn't any obvious '''use''' for it yet. Once the physical properties of [[petroleum]] were known and that with the art of "cracking", ([[distill\| distillation]]) of the oil into "useful" products the next logical step was to find oil that had not bubbled to the surface but was "waiting" to be tapped into. The only "market" at the time was that of lighting, mostly home lighting through the use of oil lamps. (On a related note it was observed, sometimes dramatically, that the "air" forcing the oil out was also burnable for light, hence the early use of gaslighting in cities.) Also interesting, the fledgling petroleum industry would have been considered "Green" in its day as it sought to replace whale oil, a fast dwindling commodity as the whale population was on the decline at the time. [[User:Rob Pommer\| Rob Pommer]]<sub>[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer\|talk]]</sub> 12:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
		+	:Yeah, add that stuff. [[User:DrSandstone\|DrSandstone]] 12:50, 9 May 2007 (EDT)