User:CScience - Revision history

JessicaT: rmv link to deleted template

2009-02-24T11:04:46Z

rmv link to deleted template

Philip J. Rayment: Goodbye message from CScience

2007-06-18T15:19:12Z

Goodbye message from CScience

CScience: add userboxes

2007-06-10T19:53:50Z

add userboxes

CScience: Bailing out of controversy.

2007-06-09T01:52:56Z

Bailing out of controversy.

CScience: Intro

2007-05-25T02:05:51Z

Intro

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Greetings. I'm a new (April 07) user, interested in science (and math) articles, from a creationist perspective where applicable.

I don't know how to do "userboxes", templates, or any of that fancy stuff.

I'm going to stay away from other topics, because of all the unpleasantness, blocking, banning, and complaining that I see. I recognize that running a site like this isn't easy, but I just don't want to get involved in those controversies. [[User:CScience|CScience]] 22:05, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

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	It had not been my intention to write anything provocative relative to what seemed to be the norms of this web site. However, after looking around at various pages and talk pages, I can't figure out what is acceptable, what the policies actually are, and how those policies are applied. See, for example, the bickering on [[Talk:Geocentric_theory]], [[User_talk:CPAdmin1/Proposed_Block_Policy]], or many sysops' talk pages. The penalty for making a wrong judgment is severe—permanent banishment. It's not worth the risk. There is still plenty that I can do on non-controversial (I hope!) science, like try to explain [[Maxwell's Equations]] at the high school level. [[User:CScience\|CScience]] 21:52, 8 June 2007 (EDT)		It had not been my intention to write anything provocative relative to what seemed to be the norms of this web site. However, after looking around at various pages and talk pages, I can't figure out what is acceptable, what the policies actually are, and how those policies are applied. See, for example, the bickering on [[Talk:Geocentric_theory]], [[User_talk:CPAdmin1/Proposed_Block_Policy]], or many sysops' talk pages. The penalty for making a wrong judgment is severe—permanent banishment. It's not worth the risk. There is still plenty that I can do on non-controversial (I hope!) science, like try to explain [[Maxwell's Equations]] at the high school level. [[User:CScience\|CScience]] 21:52, 8 June 2007 (EDT)
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		+	<span style="color:red"><small>'''''CScience e-mailed me (a couple of days ago, sorry) and asked me to post the following here on his behalf. Me posting this does not imply my endorsement of it.''''' [[User:Philip J. Rayment\|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:19, 18 June 2007 (EDT)</small></span>
		+	==June 15, 2007 - Farewell==
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		+	Sadly, I must leave Conservapedia. The blocking policies are unreasonable. This is not intended to be a [[Parthian shot]], just an explanation. Take it however you want.
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		+	It has recently become clear that editors can be permanently banned for a number of infractions, among the most serious being "sock puppetry".
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		+	Furthermore, sock puppetry is very loosely interpreted, including any re-use of an IP address for any reason, even completely innocent situations like multiple users from the same school or company. The powers that be simply do not seem to accept that there are innocent explanations for this. See [[Talk:Main_Page/archive10#Hi]].
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		+	Furthermore, when a person is banished, everything they have done can be retroactively reverted. I know of two cases of this, including a page I was working on—[[Sodium]]—and that I was using as a model for future work. [[User:Reaganomist]] had made a formatting change, which was then reverted when he got banished. As far as I can tell, what happened was
		+	#His account got blocked for lack of activity (22:39 16 May)
		+	#He created a new account [[User:Reaganomist2]] in order to resume editing
		+	#He admitted openly that he was also [[User:GodlessLiberal]]
		+	#Everyone involved got banished
		+	#All of his past contributions were reverted.
		+	See [[User_talk:RobS#Putting_page_subject_in_bold]] for how this arose. Looking at his contributions, I see nothing wrong, nor any evidence that he ever engaged in deceitful or harmful behavior.
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		+	The reasons for banishment are often not clear. The IP address investigations appear to be done in secret. The explanations given in the block logs are often extremely terse and cryptic, like "subhuman". It seems that a lot of effort is put into secret investigations.
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		+	Unfortunately, several other people trying to contribute to science articles have also left CP. Two very prolific and valuable science contributors that have left are:
		+	*Noodles -- see [[User_talk:Noodles]]. He was initially praised for being a "real live physicist", then banished.
		+	*Pixologic -- extremely prolific in math and science, banished for "parody vandalism". I don't get it.
		+	These people had made excellent contributions!
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		+	Unfortunately, I have done most of my editing from my company, through its firewall. That means that I was always in danger of being banished, and having all my work deleted, due to nothing more than another person at my company creating a CP account.
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		+	Then, on June 15, at 12:14, this happened. Someone calling himself "ILoveBush" created an account, and now we are both banished.
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		+	I do not know who "ILoveBush" is, other than that he must work at my company. I do not know whether he is a sock / vandal. (The name could be taken either way, and there are no contributions on which to base a judgment.) I do know that I have never done anything harmful to CP, and have never been accused in any way of doing such.
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		+	Even before my banishment, I had concluded that I simply can't contribute in an atmosphere in which everything I've done can be deleted due to circumstances beyond my control. I've put too much time into the articles that I have written. I am considering continuing my work at [http://creationwiki.org Creation Wiki], which is also interested in educational articles about science, and seems to have a different way of dealing with vandalism.
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		+	I may check in from time to time and look around.
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		+	I would like to express my appreciation to those people here at CP who have been helpful and supportive during my short stay:
		+	*[[User:Philip J. Rayment]]
		+	*[[User:HeartOfGold]]
		+	*[[User:BethanyS]]

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	Greetings. I'm a new (April 07) user, interested in science (and math) articles, from a creationist perspective where applicable.		Greetings. I'm a new (April 07) user, interested in science (and math) articles, from a creationist perspective where applicable.

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	I'm going to stay away from other topics, because of all the unpleasantness, blocking, banning, and complaining that I see. I recognize that running a site like this isn't easy, but I just don't want to get involved in those controversies. [[User:CScience\|CScience]] 22:05, 24 May 2007 (EDT)		I'm going to stay away from other topics, because of all the unpleasantness, blocking, banning, and complaining that I see. I recognize that running a site like this isn't easy, but I just don't want to get involved in those controversies. [[User:CScience\|CScience]] 22:05, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
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		+	==June 8, 2007==
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		+	Unfortunately, I have decided not to attempt to edit anything related to Creation Science or related "controversial" subjects. I will stick to "hard science"—physics, chemistry, and mathematics. It had been my plan to work up to issues relating to Mach's principle and its implications for geocentrism, heliocentrism, and galaxy dynamics, but that won't happen.
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		+	It had not been my intention to write anything provocative relative to what seemed to be the norms of this web site. However, after looking around at various pages and talk pages, I can't figure out what is acceptable, what the policies actually are, and how those policies are applied. See, for example, the bickering on [[Talk:Geocentric_theory]], [[User_talk:CPAdmin1/Proposed_Block_Policy]], or many sysops' talk pages. The penalty for making a wrong judgment is severe—permanent banishment. It's not worth the risk. There is still plenty that I can do on non-controversial (I hope!) science, like try to explain [[Maxwell's Equations]] at the high school level. [[User:CScience\|CScience]] 21:52, 8 June 2007 (EDT)