War on the Gospel of John - Revision history

Aschlafly: 33 alleged contradictions between the Gospel of John and other Gospels are superficial and often not contradictory as all, such as failing to recognize that the multiplication of the loaves likely happened more than once.

2024-09-07T16:54:54Z

33 alleged contradictions between the Gospel of John and other Gospels are superficial and often not contradictory as all, such as failing to recognize that the multiplication of the loaves likely happened more than once.

Aschlafly: /* Criticisms of the Gospel of John */ Some of the similarities are memorable quotes for which one would expect there to be independent verification. If nothing in the Ghospel of John corroborated the other Gospels, then skeptics might use that a

2024-09-07T04:37:32Z

Criticisms of the Gospel of John: Some of the similarities are memorable quotes for which one would expect there to be independent verification. If nothing in the Ghospel of John corroborated the other Gospels, then skeptics might use that a

Aschlafly: 18 alleged parallels with the Gospel of Luke

2024-09-07T04:22:27Z

18 alleged parallels with the Gospel of Luke

Aschlafly: criticisms

2024-09-07T04:05:48Z

criticisms

Aschlafly: The oldest extant fragment from the entire New Testament is P52 (the John Rylands Fragment), dating from the first half of the 100s A.D. This weighs further against deemphasizing this Gospel.

2024-07-21T14:51:28Z

The oldest extant fragment from the entire New Testament is P52 (the John Rylands Fragment), dating from the first half of the 100s A.D. This weighs further against deemphasizing this Gospel.

LT at 05:13, July 21, 2024

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LT at 05:13, July 21, 2024

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Aschlafly at 05:06, July 21, 2024

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Aschlafly at 05:06, July 21, 2024

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Aschlafly at 05:06, July 21, 2024

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 *8 alleged embellishments in the [[Gospel of John]] compared with the other [[Gospels]],<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/progressive-embellishment-of-john/</ref> but these can be viewed as dilutions in the other Gospels rather than anything embellished by the eyewitness [[John]].
 *18 alleged parallels with the [[Gospel of Luke]]:<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/johannine-dependence-on-luke/</ref> many of these "parallels" are actually significantly different, while others are to passages in the [[Gospel of John]] that appear to have been later additions (e.g., [[Essay:Adulteress Story|Adulteress Story]] and [[John ending|John 21]]). Some of the similarities are memorable quotes for which one would expect there to be independent verification.  If nothing in the [[Ghospel of John]] corroborated the other [[Gospels]], then skeptics might use that as a pretext for doubt.
 == References ==
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 *8 alleged embellishments in the [[Gospel of John]] compared with the other [[Gospels]],<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/progressive-embellishment-of-john/</ref> but these can be viewed as dilutions in the other Gospels rather than anything embellished by the eyewitness [[John]].
-*18 alleged parallels with the [[Gospel of Luke]]:<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/johannine-dependence-on-luke/</ref> many of these "parallels" are actually significantly different, while others are to passages in the [[Gospel of John]] that appear to have been later additions (e.g., [[Essay:Adulteress Story|Adulteress Story]] and [[John ending|John 21]]).
+*18 alleged parallels with the [[Gospel of Luke]]:<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/johannine-dependence-on-luke/</ref> many of these "parallels" are actually significantly different, while others are to passages in the [[Gospel of John]] that appear to have been later additions (e.g., [[Essay:Adulteress Story|Adulteress Story]] and [[John ending|John 21]]). Some of the similarities are memorable quotes for which one would expect there to be independent verification.  If nothing in the [[Ghospel of John]] corroborated the other [[Gospels]], then skeptics might use that as a pretext for doubt.
 == References ==
 {{reflist}}
 [[category:Bible]]

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	*8 alleged embellishments in the [[Gospel of John]] compared with the other [[Gospels]],<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/progressive-embellishment-of-john/</ref> but these can be viewed as dilutions in the other Gospels rather than anything embellished by the eyewitness [[John]].		*8 alleged embellishments in the [[Gospel of John]] compared with the other [[Gospels]],<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/progressive-embellishment-of-john/</ref> but these can be viewed as dilutions in the other Gospels rather than anything embellished by the eyewitness [[John]].
		+	*18 alleged parallels with the [[Gospel of Luke]]:<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/johannine-dependence-on-luke/</ref> many of these "parallels" are actually significantly different, while others are to passages in the [[Gospel of John]] that appear to have been later additions (e.g., [[Essay:Adulteress Story\|Adulteress Story]] and [[John ending\|John 21]]).
		+	== References ==
		+	{{reflist}}
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	The oldest [[extant]] fragment from the entire [[New Testament]] is [[P52]] (the [[John Rylands Fragment]]), dating from the first half of the 100s A.D. This weighs further against deemphasizing this [[Gospel]].		The oldest [[extant]] fragment from the entire [[New Testament]] is [[P52]] (the [[John Rylands Fragment]]), dating from the first half of the 100s A.D. This weighs further against deemphasizing this [[Gospel]].
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		+	== Criticisms of the Gospel of John ==
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		+	*8 alleged embellishments in the [[Gospel of John]] compared with the other [[Gospels]],<ref>https://issueswithjohn.com/progressive-embellishment-of-john/</ref> but these can be viewed as dilutions in the other Gospels rather than anything embellished by the eyewitness [[John]].
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 The stages in this demotion and marginalization of the [[Gospel of John]] include:
-*early dilutions of this Gospel that obscure its powerful meaning, including adding an apocryphal, confusing [[John ending]] and the very [[liberal]], doctrinally incorrect [[Essay:Adulteress Story|Adulteress Story]];
+*early dilutions of this Gospel that obscure its powerful meaning, including adding an apocryphal, confusing [[John ending]], the very [[liberal]], doctrinally incorrect [[Essay:Adulteress Story|Adulteress Story]], and numerous parenthetical [[Gospel of John Asides|asides]];
 *placing the [[Gospel of John]] last of the four [[Gospels]], which makes no sense as a way of [[Ordering the Gospels]];
 *removing its regular use as a [[New Testament]] reading from the liturgy as part of [[Vatican II]] of the [[Roman Catholic Church]], which is also followed by other Christian denominations; and
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 *liberal slanders of the Fourth Gospel as "antisemitic" (despite its emphasis on Jewish feasts as the only book in the Bible to mention Hanukkah)
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−	The '''~~War~~ on the Gospel of John''' is the repeated demoted and downplaying of the [[Gospel of John]] to the point where few [[Christian]]s learn much about this [[Gospel]] any longer, despite initially being the most important one as written by the most beloved disciple of [[Jesus]], [[John the Apostle]]. The most-quoted verses of the [[Bible]] are from the [[Gospel of John]], yet it continues to be marginalized by [[liberal]]s. The demotion of this Gospel hinders [[evangelism]].	+	The '''war on the Gospel of John''' is the repeated demoted and downplaying of the [[Gospel of John]] to the point where few [[Christian]]s learn much about this [[Gospel]] any longer, despite initially being the most important one as written by the most beloved disciple of [[Jesus]], [[John the Apostle]]. The most-quoted verses of the [[Bible]] are from the [[Gospel of John]], yet it continues to be marginalized by [[liberal]]s. The demotion of this Gospel hinders [[evangelism]].

	The stages in this demotion and marginalization of the [[Gospel of John]] include:		The stages in this demotion and marginalization of the [[Gospel of John]] include:

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 *placing the [[Gospel of John]] last of the four [[Gospels]], which makes no sense as a way of [[Ordering the Gospels]];
 *removing its regular use from the liturgy as part of [[Vatican II]] of the [[Roman Catholic Church]], which is followed by other denominations; and
-*removing the reading of John's Prologue ("The Last Gospel") from the liturgy.
+*removing the regular reading of John's Prologue ("The Last Gospel") from the liturgy.
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