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Category talk:Muslim-Majority Countries

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Wouldn't it be simpler to call this category "Category:Islamic countries"? --Ed Poor Talk 15:36, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

I suppose they aren't neccessarily the same thing - depending on cultural/political attitudesas well as religious affiliation. Albania is Moslem majority, but is is Islamic? I've never been, but I rather think not - not in the way we think of Islamic, or Albanian. Bugler 15:40, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

So we should distinguish between Islamic and Muslim in some way? Gosh, that's a fine hair to split, but I suppose it can be done. I get my historical information on the Islamic Civilization from Arnold Toynbee and his A Study of History. But I get my religious information on Islam and Muslims from a variety of more modern sources.

I gather from Tonybee that Islam is a civilization based on Muslim religion, just as Western Civilization is based on Christian religion. As you probably know, Toynbee studied 22 civilizations and found a religious basis for most of them. But he felt that a civilization was more than its underlying religion. --Ed Poor Talk 08:43, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Islam is a religion, not a civilisation. Muslims are those who follow the Islamic religion. I think what Bugler was trying to say is that just because a county has a dominant Muslim/Islamic population it is not necessarily Islamic in that its government and legal system may be secular. StatsMsn 10:03, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
Arnold Toynbee identified an "Islamic Civilization" based on Islam. It will help our readers to distinguish between Islam (the religion of Muslims) and the cultural and political aspects of the civilization based on that religion.
Perhaps an analogy will help. "Western Christendom" or Western Civilization is based on Christianity. We have separate articles for Western Civ. and for the religion of Christians. Okay? --Ed Poor Talk 09:22, 23 June 2008 (EDT)