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::I agree it should be avoided if possible.  However,  <nowiki>{{User not Regan}}</nowiki> kind of jumps out at me... misspelling a conservative icon's name on this site is a bit, um, ''wrong'', dontcha think? [[User:Human|Human]] 14:02, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::I agree it should be avoided if possible.  However,  <nowiki>{{User not Regan}}</nowiki> kind of jumps out at me... misspelling a conservative icon's name on this site is a bit, um, ''wrong'', dontcha think? [[User:Human|Human]] 14:02, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
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I renamed "33" to "Life Begins" to make it more generic (allowing for other ages).  Before I did that, I checked to see which users were using it so that I could update their pages (requiring a previously-unrequired parameter meant that a redirect was insufficient).  I found that ''nobody'' was using it, so I didn't have that extra task.  The names of the userboxes shouldn't matter too much, but if you do think it worth changing, you might well find that there's not that many users using any given userbox anyway.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:43, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
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==Bumper Stickers==
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I am under the impression that userboxes are similar to bumper stickers on cars. If that is true, could we rename them "Bumper Stickers"? --[[User:Mcpannier|Mcpannier]] 19:09, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
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== Ummm... ==
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Why is this in the Category "Cristian Conservapedians?" [[User:GodisTruth|'''<font color="#990099">Truth</font>''']]<sub>[[User_talk:GodisTruth |<font color="#009999">is power</font>]]</sub> 21:02, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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:Because any page that uses the {{tl|user Christian1}} userbox has that category added, and this page has that userbox as one of its examples.  If you know enough about it, what is the best way to avoid this?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:43, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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:: One option would be to substitute the template and then comment out the category. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 22:45, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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::: True, and another would be to replace it with a different example that doesn't have a category.  But I've come across this problem elsewhere, and I'd like a more general solution if one exists.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:55, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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:::: I'm not aware of a general non-kludgy solution, but you could ask some of the template wizards over at Wikipedia such as Azatoth. Also, my impression is that Ed Poor has good understanding of templates so you could ask him. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 00:29, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
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== Use of userboxes from Wikipedia ==
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I'm concerned that this may be a problem since they are GFDL and also be a problem given Andrew's directive not to use content from Wikipedia. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 21:51, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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==Help==
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How does one create a userbox with an image? I wanted to create a UFC userbox with the UFC logo I uploaded earlier, but it wouldn't let me. [[User:JY23|JY23]] 18:04, 21 December 2008 (EST)
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here is the code for a simple one I made, if that helps.You might need to play around with the colours though.
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<nowiki>
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{{Userbox
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  |border-c = #880088
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  |border-s = 1
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  |id-c    = #ffccff
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  |id-s    = 14
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  |id-fc    = black
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  |info-c  = #FFEEFF
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  |info-s  = 8
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  |info-fc  = #000000
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  |id      = [[Image:Flag of Japan.png|45px]]
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  |info    = This user is [[Japan|Japanese]] <br>''(Nihonjin 日本人です)''
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}}
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</nowiki>
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gives you
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{{User Japan}}
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Hope it helps a bit.[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']]</sup> 18:11, 21 December 2008 (EST)
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::Oh, I figured out my problem. Forgot the brackets, stupid me! [[User:JY23|JY23]] 18:21, 21 December 2008 (EST)

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Everyone who makes a userbox, please add it to the Index, if you can! And please add any I missed, too...-AmesGyo! 01:30, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Great job Colin. The rest is in your capable hands. Sleep well!-AmesGyo! 01:46, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the formatting, Philip! I couldn't figure out how to do that. Again, thanks! ColinRtalk 02:59, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

A word to the wise - if you want all your userboxes to line up nice & pretty, make sure that the pictures are 45px wide, and that the text is centered (using <center> tags).-AmesGyo! 11:28, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

How about copying over the Babel Templates from Wikipedia so we can have language userboxes as well? I wouldn't mind doing the work if necessary. AKjeldsen 08:39, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

i dont know how to make these. maybe some one can help? --Will N. 11:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

I have imported some of the necessary code for language userboxes - see Conservapedia:Babel and Template:Babel. All that is necessary now is to copy over the actual language templates, which will likely take a while. AKjeldsen 12:38, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Is there any way somebody could make an OEC box like the YEC one that exists now? MountainDew 13:52, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

It's already there, MD. Myk 13:53, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

These could use a little more organizing - I like the categories, they help a lot, but there are quite a few duplications. A table would help the weird wrap effect that happens due to them being slightly different heights. I might attack the dupes, maybe the tabling sometime... Human 18:08, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

I could help with the table, I think... --Sid 3050 19:15, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Done with the table. I settled for three columns, prevents things from becoming too wide or too lengthy. --Sid 3050 19:37, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Nice work Sid! Now to 1. get rid of the redundant entries and 2. move some of the "uncategorized" UXBs into categories... I am wondering if the redundancies are some sort of glitch, because the one I made I surely only put in "politics". I am glad the the categories start off with Christianity, CP activism, and Creationism, as those are the foci of this wiki. What is scary is the number of "non-conforming use" boxes that pepper the other categories. Human 20:13, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Sure thing :) Table stuff was the easy part, though. With the current number of boxes, removing duplicates and categorizing will be more of a challenge, I think. *frowns* --Sid 3050 20:17, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
I feel like a Bureaucrat-in-chief-wanna-be with that "nice work" thing. Somebody please slap me, now. Anyway, I think maybe later tonight, when all the good little elves are asleep (to avoid edit conflicts) I'll copy the source over into notepad, clean up the dupes and do a little categorizing, and copy it back. I'm so glad I found these, I totally live for userboxes. (How did I find them? Copied over my UXB list from WP to see what would happen...) Human 20:23, 13 April 2007 (EDT)
Slap! But that's for the barely-disguised profanity. There's nothing wrong with complimenting another user. Philip J. Rayment 21:47, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks I needed that :) And thank you for, making me feel ok about giving a compliment. Anyway, the reason for this comment is that the table format of this page got all screwed up, so I reverted it to the last version that worked. I hope I did not remove anyone's hard work. Please, if there is any confusion, use our talk pages to resolve the issue so this meta-article can work well. Human 00:27, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Layout

Before anyone reverts, I would like to state that I find the columnar layout to be much less disorienting. I would like to change {{UB}} to produce two collumns, but I believe that obtaining feedback before I do so would be preferable to a change without the input of other users. --Hacker(Write some code) 08:20, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

I prefer the columnar layout too, I think. But how would you change {{UB}}? If you change it so that it can take two userboxes, that's a lot of editing, and confusion for people adding new items to the index. If you can change {{UB}} in such as way that it produces two columns but still with one userbox per inclusion of the template, that would probably be a good idea, but I don't know if that's possible. Philip J. Rayment 09:00, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
Hacker, that is indeed considerate of you. I agree with Philip, the only improvement I would make is to produce two columns, to shorten the scroll. ;-) --~ TK MyTalk 09:11, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
I don't have a beef really, although I did do that revert back to three columns. One column is easier for people adding UXBs to "copy", of course. What I would like to see is the name of each UXB next to it, so people don't have to look at the source code to use one. How about if it is just two columns, one for the box, one for the name? I also notice, but haven't read through yet, that someone has been adding more "how to" instructions, which is a good idea. I was going to do something like that myself, I'll have to read it properly. Oh, and as they proliferate, I think the categories should become separate or sub pages. Human 12:40, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
Yes, the general idea is to change {{UB}} so that the template inclusion code is in one column, and the UBX is in another. In addition, I might change it so that the inclusion code has a clickable link to the template, for easy editing.

That is a good idea. The format, as it is now, allows the categories to blend too much; you can barely make out the individual categories. I am going to get started on that. --<<-David R->> 12:43, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

I like that a lot better. There are still some uncat. UXBs that belong in cats, of course. Also, images need to be resized on some. And there are some horrendous typos, even in box names! I love the template, automatically creating the "what to type in your user page" text! I am going to add to the instructions a line saying where to save your new UXB (http://www.conservapedia.com/Template:User_name) unless someone else gets to it first... Human 13:12, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
One last thing... the category pages should have links at least back to userboxen#categories - or, ideally to all of each other. That's done with a template, right? Human 14:04, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Renaming

Please be sure, if you are renaming a UXB, to see who is using it (what links here) and let them know. Or, if redirects work on these things, make the old name a redirect, of course. Human 13:12, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Yeah. I don't think renaming a userbox is a good idea, at least not after they have been placed on a user page. I am going to stay away from that. We do have a lot of uncats that can be categorized, but I am going to save that for later, unless, of course, you would like to do it. --<<-David R->> 13:18, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Templates are generally redirect-friendly. And the "move article" function (which is just what a rename is) creates the redirect in the old spot automatically, so it shouldn't be a problem. It's not the recommended behavior in this case (I'd prefer things to stay where they are once they're being used), but it should work out. --Sid 3050 13:21, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
I agree it should be avoided if possible. However, {{User not Regan}} kind of jumps out at me... misspelling a conservative icon's name on this site is a bit, um, wrong, dontcha think? Human 14:02, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

I renamed "33" to "Life Begins" to make it more generic (allowing for other ages). Before I did that, I checked to see which users were using it so that I could update their pages (requiring a previously-unrequired parameter meant that a redirect was insufficient). I found that nobody was using it, so I didn't have that extra task. The names of the userboxes shouldn't matter too much, but if you do think it worth changing, you might well find that there's not that many users using any given userbox anyway. Philip J. Rayment 19:43, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Bumper Stickers

I am under the impression that userboxes are similar to bumper stickers on cars. If that is true, could we rename them "Bumper Stickers"? --Mcpannier 19:09, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Ummm...

Why is this in the Category "Cristian Conservapedians?" Truthis power 21:02, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Because any page that uses the {{user Christian1}} userbox has that category added, and this page has that userbox as one of its examples. If you know enough about it, what is the best way to avoid this? Philip J. Rayment 22:43, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
One option would be to substitute the template and then comment out the category. JoshuaZ 22:45, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
True, and another would be to replace it with a different example that doesn't have a category. But I've come across this problem elsewhere, and I'd like a more general solution if one exists. Philip J. Rayment 23:55, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
I'm not aware of a general non-kludgy solution, but you could ask some of the template wizards over at Wikipedia such as Azatoth. Also, my impression is that Ed Poor has good understanding of templates so you could ask him. JoshuaZ 00:29, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

Use of userboxes from Wikipedia

I'm concerned that this may be a problem since they are GFDL and also be a problem given Andrew's directive not to use content from Wikipedia. JoshuaZ 21:51, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

Help

How does one create a userbox with an image? I wanted to create a UFC userbox with the UFC logo I uploaded earlier, but it wouldn't let me. JY23 18:04, 21 December 2008 (EST)

here is the code for a simple one I made, if that helps.You might need to play around with the colours though. {{Userbox |border-c = #880088 |border-s = 1 |id-c = #ffccff |id-s = 14 |id-fc = black |info-c = #FFEEFF |info-s = 8 |info-fc = #000000 |id = [[Image:Flag of Japan.png|45px]] |info = This user is [[Japan|Japanese]] <br>''(Nihonjin 日本人です)'' }} gives you

Flag of Japan.png This user is Japanese
(Nihonjin 日本人です)

Hope it helps a bit.KotomiTohayougozaimasu 18:11, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Oh, I figured out my problem. Forgot the brackets, stupid me! JY23 18:21, 21 December 2008 (EST)