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"Coercive Interrogation" can refer to a number of methods currently being used in the War Against Terror.  Some are "minor"(e.g. sleep deprivation), others "major" (e.g. waterboarding, physical abuse).  Sometimes they are used to extract immediately vital information, sometimes for less immediate needs.
 
"Coercive Interrogation" can refer to a number of methods currently being used in the War Against Terror.  Some are "minor"(e.g. sleep deprivation), others "major" (e.g. waterboarding, physical abuse).  Sometimes they are used to extract immediately vital information, sometimes for less immediate needs.
 
Where do Christian values intersect with these practices?
 
Where do Christian values intersect with these practices?
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:Of course it is.  "Coercive Interrogation" has a long and proud history of being used to fight evil.  Without the use of the rack and the thumbscrew, how could the witches of the middle-ages been convinced to admit to such crimes as flying through the air, shapeshifting, cursing cattle, stealing men's er... 'members' by magic, eating babies, or having actual physical 'biblical intercourse' with Satan?  Who Would Jesus Waterboard?  --[[User:BobD|BobD]] 13:31, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Of course it is.  "Coercive Interrogation" has a long and proud history of being used to fight evil.  Without the use of the rack and the thumbscrew, how could the witches of the middle-ages been convinced to admit to such crimes as flying through the air, shapeshifting, cursing cattle, stealing men's er... 'members' by magic, eating babies, or having actual physical 'biblical intercourse' with Satan?  Who Would Jesus Waterboard?  --[[User:BobD|BobD]] 13:31, 14 April 2007 (EDT)
  
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I just can't picture Jesus beating someone up to make them confess, or piling up naked prisoners and take a picture of it.
 
I just can't picture Jesus beating someone up to make them confess, or piling up naked prisoners and take a picture of it.
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All I could think of when I read the question was... "forty lashes".  Although, I guess, they weren't asking questions, they were trying to get away with not executing him for the Pharisees purposes of silencing him.  How can anyone even mildly versed in the stories about Jesus even think this could be a debate? [[User:Human|Human]] 02:49, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
  
 
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"Coercive Interrogation" can refer to a number of methods currently being used in the War Against Terror. Some are "minor"(e.g. sleep deprivation), others "major" (e.g. waterboarding, physical abuse). Sometimes they are used to extract immediately vital information, sometimes for less immediate needs. Where do Christian values intersect with these practices?

Of course it is. "Coercive Interrogation" has a long and proud history of being used to fight evil. Without the use of the rack and the thumbscrew, how could the witches of the middle-ages been convinced to admit to such crimes as flying through the air, shapeshifting, cursing cattle, stealing men's er... 'members' by magic, eating babies, or having actual physical 'biblical intercourse' with Satan? Who Would Jesus Waterboard? --BobD 13:31, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." Matthew 7:12. Not consistent with waterboarding unless ye would that men should waterboard you. No exceptions made for hypothetical situations in which waterboarding someone would prevent a greater evil. Dpbsmith 21:33, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

It's all done with mind control through brain chip implants and nowadays. We've come along way since old fashioned waterboarding. And that stuff was never needed, anyway. Heroin in your breakfast Cornflakes does the trick, they'll sell their own mother for another bowl of Cornflakes. Most of this stuff you read about waterboarding is just disinformation. RobS 15:49, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

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I just can't picture Jesus beating someone up to make them confess, or piling up naked prisoners and take a picture of it.

All I could think of when I read the question was... "forty lashes". Although, I guess, they weren't asking questions, they were trying to get away with not executing him for the Pharisees purposes of silencing him. How can anyone even mildly versed in the stories about Jesus even think this could be a debate? Human 02:49, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Middle Man