Difference between revisions of "Debate:Is it possible to be a conservative and not a religious person or even an atheist?"

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Out of interest, as a Catholic, socialist, scientist European, would many on hear say I was not Christian?

Yes

Of course. Conservative is not a religion. Conservatives believe in individual freedoms. Everwill 14:08, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

I know from personal experience that my transition leftward began a while after I became an atheist.--Άθεος 21:32, 17 April 2007 (EDT)

I strongly oppose that the most important value of conservatives is individual freedom. Actually, individual freedom is the most important principle of liberalism. In addition, you have to differentiate between value and structure conservatism. Most conservatives are value conservatives and as such regard the traditional values of family, religion, honor and truth or at least some of them higher than individual freedom. Structure conservatives prefer everything remains as it is, simply said, whereas value conservatives favor changes that give more importance to the values above. -- SchiFra

One can't argue from the specific to the general. Everwill 12:12, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

unless the specific contradicts the general -- SchiFra

What? First, my statement was to agree with you. Second, if something happens in one specific case then it must be generally possible.--Άθεος 15:24, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

A non-religous conservative is often called a capitalist.Jaques 15:28, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

So sayeth you. Everwill 08:45, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Who cares you are going to burn in hell for denying JesusRebiu 23:00, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

How do you know that God won't send those who believe in him to Hell? Perhaps he wants people to think for themselves and he created the Church in order to test, not man's faith, but man's reason. After all, if God is omnibenevolant, wouldn't He dislike faith because He wants us to use our minds?User:Cthx

It really is subject to one's definition of conservative. As for the above comment, can you really say that all of the great non-christians in world history, many of whom were far more "christian" than some christians, should "burn in hell?"

well i do know there are some but, not that many given the whole... --Wally 19:26, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Know your Renaissance eschatology: Dante sez: virtuous Pagans get a castle that's technically inside Hell, but all they have to suffer is knowing that they were wrong.User:Cthx