Debate:What is the Sabbath day?
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This is a topic that interests me. I identify as a Seventh-Day Adventist, although I only hold loosely to some of the teachings of the church. I personally believe the Sabbath day to be Saturday, the 7th day of the week in the traditional calendar, and the day of the Jewish Sabbath. I was a bit surprised to find that Conservapedia's article on the Sabbath asserted that the "date given by Moses has been lost". (I'd correct that, but I'm a bit wary about introducing my own biases, which may not be quite what the project wants.) In either case, I figured this was a good topic for debate. What day is the Sabbath day, or does it even matter in the life of the Christian? --Blu Aardvark 09:20, 25 March 2007 (EDT)
- Genesis 2:2 "By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done." In the biblical sense, Sabbath has much more meaning than just a day of the week. There were also 7 year sabbaths and 50 year sabbaths. I'm no expert at this, but I believe these were also referred to as the Year of Jubilee. Christians meet on Sunday (first day of the week) because that is the day they believe that Christ rose from the grave. --Ymmotrojam 15:45, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
- The sabbath day is from Friday at sundown until Saturday at sundown, local time. The Jews are quite meticulous about ensuring their law is transmitted from one generation to the next without error, and one law commands the sabbath to be remembered. As far as Christians are concerned, Paul said, (Col.2:16) "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days" Teresita 17:12, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
The Sabbath Day depends on what calander you're using--solar or lunar. Our comprehension of what day is which is thrown off by the fact that we have an extra day every 4 years to keep the calender sensical, which might also affect the Sabbath. It seems to be more important to observe rest and the power of God every seven days than to quibble about which of the seven it is. I seriously doubt God is going to scold you for not being a historical mathmatician and damning you for observing on the wrong day.
Really the Sabbath Day is any day that the Lord has deemed as Holy. The original holy day was the day that God rested. Jews believe this to be Saturday while Christians like to think of it as Sunday. It could be either it's more likely to be Saturday since the Christian calender has been altered so many times over the centries.Dfairlyxed13
We should note that none of the calendar changes over the centuries has ever altered the weekly cycle.djconklin 8:04, 11 May 2007(CST)
I agree with the above--that the Sabbath was initially instituted as the seventh day of the week as recorded in the Old Testament, and that it was Saturday. Now whether it remains to be Saturday or has been changed to Sunday is up for debate. It is also up for debate whether the Sabbath should still be kept. First of all, I think that it is more important to keep the spirit of the law over the letter; in other words, I think that it is more important to demonstrate love to all people than to keep all the laws. If one keeps all the laws, they keep them for themselves in a sense--either demonstrating, or attesting thier righteousness. Unless ofcourse it is the laws that pertain to the gracious treatment of others such as loving thy neighbor, not commiting adultery, not stealing, nor lying, nor falsely testifying. In other words, "treating others the way that you would like them to treat you" These are all good commands to keep. However, I believe that it is impossible to attain a righteousness without love which would properly prepare one for heaven. This is attested in 1 Corinthians when the Apostle Paul basically says that one could perform all kinds of various acts of love and kindness to others that would be basically useless or worthless if not done in the spirit of love. Now concerning the fourth commandment--the Sabbath. It began as historical day of rest and as a commandment from God or Yahweh to Moses--the Leader of the Israelites around 1500 BC, to be observed by everybody. I believe that "This day was affirmed in the New Testament while Jesus was in the Earth after his crucifixion, "[the disciples] rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment" (Luke 23.56). The fact that the Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament in the context of Jesus' death and resurrection not only affirms the Sabbath as still being efficacious for believers, but it also affirms the day as the Seventh since it says "according to the commandment", namely the fourth commandment-- "For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it" (Exod. 20.11. Now concerning my own thoughts, I think that it is good to keep the Sabbath for several reasons. First of all, it is good to keep it because of the commandment, so it must be good. Secondly, I think that our bodies, minds, and spirits need to have a break every week from the stresses and strains that we go through. We need time to heal and to rebuild. More later. Feel free to respond. [Petrarcah]--Petrarcah 13:48, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
My view is that Christians have leeway to do whatever they want on the Sabbath. Colossians 2:16-17 says: Do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. DanH 13:50, 27 April 2007 (EDT)
Paul isn't talking about the seventh-day Sabbath in Col. 2:16-17. The passage refers to outsiders (i.e., non-Christians) judging the believers for their eating and drinking on (en merei) the feast days, new moons and ceremonial sabbaths. For more details see http://www.666man.net/Colossians_2_16-17_By_David_Conklin/colintro.html. djconklin 8:04, 11 May 2007 (CST)
As djconklin states the reference in Col 2:16 is to ceremonial sabbaths that were celebrated according to the handwritten law of Moses as told to him by God as a symbol of future events. I'm amazed so many misquote this, having apparently not read the verse in it's context to the rest of the chapter. All through the Bible we are exhorted to keep the 7th day holy since creation. Calendar changes are another red herring; there has always been 7 days in a week since creation. I would assume that God would see that something so important would remain intact. Jesus kept the Sabnbath on the seventh day of the week. If His dying had any effect on the Moral Law wouldn't He have mentioned it? Celebrating Sunday as the day of rest because of His resurrection doesn't fit either. Baptism was given to us as a symbol of his death, burial, and resurrection. The Roman Catholic church claims the authority to change times and laws by sanctifying Sunday. It has no Biblical authority, nor from God either, to change a command spoken by God, written with His own finger and shouted from the mountaintop at Sinai.The Bible warns what will happen to those who teach as doctrine the traditions of men as well. It behooves us to obey the Word and keep the seventh day Sabbath.