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Talk:Deliberate ignorance

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:::::::::::::::@Aschafly: If you had read the links when you posted your comment of 22 March then I cannot understand how you could have written: "Darwin recognized this as a serious problem, and suggested that whales evolved from black bears swimming. No more plausible ancestor has been suggested ever since". In all seriousness, are you suggesting that the black bear theory is the most plausible theory yet? Clearly, looking at those links, a number of fossils have been discovered since Darwin's time and a far more detailed and, on its face, far more plausible evolutionary path has been suggested. And isn't the fact that some evolutionists refer to it as an "unfinished story" indicative of open enquiring minds rather than deliberate ignorance? Working from within the evolutionary paradigm, just what is it about the proposed evolutionary path that is indicative of deliberate ignorance. I think it would be appropriate at this stage if you could provide specific details. --[[User:CecilQ|CecilQ]] 17:52, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Darwin said black bears; then it changed to "dog-like" carnivores [http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/otherprehistoriclife/a/ancientwhales.htm]; now the latest scenario (read "excuse") is deer [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071220220241.htm]. Bambi meets Flipper? In this particular evo-story - and all of evolution in general - these "educated" men will come with any excuse, any scenario, any situation...anything under the sun, ''except'' Genesis, Chapter 1. They cannot tolerate the fact that there is a God who created everything. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:36, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
 
Hmm... I think you'll find that the "dog-like" creatures and the "deer-like" creatures both exist in the current proposed evolutionary pathway. Pakicetus is described in your first article as having "dog-like legs" and Indohyus is described in your second article as being "deer-like". According to current evolutionary theory they are both related to whales. It is not as if there has been a movement from bears to dogs to deer (which appears to be what you are suggesting in your post). Rather, it is as I have described it above: "a number of fossils have been discovered since Darwin's time and a far more detailed and, on its face, far more plausible evolutionary path has been suggested".
 
Now, both you and I know that the Bible is 100% true and correct and that Jesus is our personal Lord and Saviour. We also agree that evolution cannot possibly be right and that the Great Flood definitely definitely happened. However, this is an article on ''deliberate'' ignorance. The mere fact that we do not agree with someone's point of view does not mean that they are being deliberately ignorant. People can legitimately hold opposing views without deliberate ignorance being the necessary cause. For this whale item to be included in this article there really needs to be a more considered criticism than "Bambi meets Flipper". Can you point to any reference that indicates that deliberate ignorance is at work in relation to the suggested evolutionary pathway for whales? --[[User:CecilQ|CecilQ]] 00:51, 23 March 2011 (EDT)
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