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I have a book, ''Looking for God in Harry Potter'' by John Granger, ISBN: 1414306342, which looks for the hidden meaning in the Harry Potter series. There are many other things in the book that would be helpful in the CP article. I would like to colloborate with someone that could integrate the book with the CP article, without plagiarizing the book. --[[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] 20:21, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
 
I have a book, ''Looking for God in Harry Potter'' by John Granger, ISBN: 1414306342, which looks for the hidden meaning in the Harry Potter series. There are many other things in the book that would be helpful in the CP article. I would like to colloborate with someone that could integrate the book with the CP article, without plagiarizing the book. --[[User:Crocoite|Crocoite]] 20:21, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
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:The books have also been accused of promoting witchcraft or [[wicca]].<ref>[http://www.chick.com/catalog/videos/potter.asp]</ref> <ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/1735623.stm]</ref> <ref>[http://www.chick.com/catalog/videos/0127.asp]</ref> <ref>[http://www.cesnur.org/recens/potter_06.htm]</ref>
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The first ref I followed mentions the [[occult]] nature of the magic in the books, but I fail to see how "Carol" is accusing the books of '''promoting witchcraft'''. My understanding (as a Christian educator myself) is that the books are fantasy in the same genre as the [[Narnia]] books of [[C.S. Lewis]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:42, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

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The Onion

I question this material:

These claims were conflated and exacerbated by a piece in the satirical newspaper The Onion purporting to interview children who had become involved in satanism and witchcraft after reading the Harry Potter books and could now cast spells.[1] [2] Rowling has denied such claims.[3] The mainstream media has not taken this claim seriously.

The Onion is a stitch and a lot of people love it, but I doubt that it was an important influence in the Harry Potter phenomenon. The (very good) article cited to support the sentence "Rowling has denied such claims" says nothing about The Onion or about claims that readers of the books learned to cast spells. I haven't bothered to check the history to see who added this, but I suspect a leg-pull. Dpbsmith 21:45, 3 March 2007 (EST)

The Snopes reference particularly mentions the Harry Potter article and asserts that it was circulated as evidence. See the reference in the section you removed. JoshuaZ 02:36, 4 March 2007 (EST)

"The books have even been accused of promoting witchcraft."

Wow, that's pretty deep! --BenjaminS 10:45, 4 March 2007 (EST)

Maybe I was wrong. I hate it when that happens.
I checked the Rowling reference but not the others, my bad.
I'm not quite ready to put it back, though, until I'm convinced it really was influential. The Onion piece appeared in 2000. And Wikipedia's Controversy over Harry Potter article says that "Since 1999, the Harry Potter books have sat atop the American Library Association’s list of most protested books, with some American churches banning the books altogether." So The Onion was clearly satirizing a controversy that was already in full swing. How much influence did the "Dear Christian" email really have in amplifying it?
I won't put it back personally, but I won't revert if anyone else does. I'd still like to see some context to show that it was of much significance. Dpbsmith 10:46, 4 March 2007 (EST)

Witch craft

I added some contribution to this article discussing how it deals with the topic of witches and wizards and communication between magical and non-magical people. Why was it deleted. I know what I wrote about since I have read all the 6 books several times and am eagerly waiting for the 7th :-)

This was what I wrote http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Potter&oldid=27741..


I thought it would fit in with the rest of the site ;-). Anyways can anyone tell me why those blue borders appeared and how to remove them.

Looking for God in Harry Potter

I have a book, Looking for God in Harry Potter by John Granger, ISBN: 1414306342, which looks for the hidden meaning in the Harry Potter series. There are many other things in the book that would be helpful in the CP article. I would like to colloborate with someone that could integrate the book with the CP article, without plagiarizing the book. --Crocoite 20:21, 29 July 2007 (EDT)

Accusations?

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The books have also been accused of promoting witchcraft or wicca.[1] [2] [3] [4]
The first ref I followed mentions the occult nature of the magic in the books, but I fail to see how "Carol" is accusing the books of promoting witchcraft. My understanding (as a Christian educator myself) is that the books are fantasy in the same genre as the Narnia books of C.S. Lewis. --Ed Poor Talk 11:42, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
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