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The passage almost makes the place sound ideal...but shouldn't some mention appear that they weren't only using capitalist models, unless there are forced labor camps in the United States I am unaware of....except for the ''millions'' killed. I realize the article is talking of progress, but again I say; at what price?  --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 03:27, 23 January 2010 (EST)
 
The passage almost makes the place sound ideal...but shouldn't some mention appear that they weren't only using capitalist models, unless there are forced labor camps in the United States I am unaware of....except for the ''millions'' killed. I realize the article is talking of progress, but again I say; at what price?  --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 03:27, 23 January 2010 (EST)
 
::Deng reversed Mao's course after 1978 and stopped the killings. The resulting economic miracle is very well known. China in my opinion is vastly better off than under Mao--and it is freer--but has a long way to go for real liberty for its people. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 03:49, 23 January 2010 (EST)
 
::Deng reversed Mao's course after 1978 and stopped the killings. The resulting economic miracle is very well known. China in my opinion is vastly better off than under Mao--and it is freer--but has a long way to go for real liberty for its people. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 03:49, 23 January 2010 (EST)
:::Perhaps on as huge of scale, RJ, but one can hardly overlook the hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) still in labor camps, can one?  There are two sets of rules in play. One for conducting business with the West, the other for dealing with their own citizens.  Hardly an economic model one should point out with pride. --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 06:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)
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:::Perhaps on as huge of scale, RJ, but one can hardly overlook the hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) still in labor camps, can one?  There are two sets of rules in play. One for conducting business with the West, the other for dealing with their own citizens.  Hardly an economic model one should point out with pride. I have employees who are forced to send half their earnings home, less some misfortune befall their loved ones.  --<big>[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]</big><sub>/Admin</sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 06:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)

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But at what price?

Progress#China

"After the Mao's death, however, the new regime led by Deng Xiaoping (1904-97) and his successors aggressively promoted modernization of the economy using capitalist models and imported western technology"

The passage almost makes the place sound ideal...but shouldn't some mention appear that they weren't only using capitalist models, unless there are forced labor camps in the United States I am unaware of....except for the millions killed. I realize the article is talking of progress, but again I say; at what price? --ṬK/Admin/Talk 03:27, 23 January 2010 (EST)

Deng reversed Mao's course after 1978 and stopped the killings. The resulting economic miracle is very well known. China in my opinion is vastly better off than under Mao--and it is freer--but has a long way to go for real liberty for its people. RJJensen 03:49, 23 January 2010 (EST)
Perhaps on as huge of scale, RJ, but one can hardly overlook the hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) still in labor camps, can one? There are two sets of rules in play. One for conducting business with the West, the other for dealing with their own citizens. Hardly an economic model one should point out with pride. I have employees who are forced to send half their earnings home, less some misfortune befall their loved ones. --ṬK/Admin/Talk 06:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)