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'''Leftists Complain?'''
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It is not only "leftists" who "complain" that Pinochet murdered 3,000 people, it's anyone not so blinded by partisan politics that they are willing to sink so low as to defend a notorious criminal and mass murderer just because he was "anti-Communist", as if that automatically makes him a hero.
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- [[User:AuthorNeubius|AuthorNeubius]] November 20, 2008
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When the Adolf Hitler article is expanded, is his mass murder of Jews, Communists, homoexuals, Roma, etc going to be tucked into a separate section marked "criticism?" Just wondering....
 
When the Adolf Hitler article is expanded, is his mass murder of Jews, Communists, homoexuals, Roma, etc going to be tucked into a separate section marked "criticism?" Just wondering....
 
--[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 14:57, 23 March 2007 (EDT)
 
--[[User:PF Fox|PF Fox]] 14:57, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

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Leftists Complain? It is not only "leftists" who "complain" that Pinochet murdered 3,000 people, it's anyone not so blinded by partisan politics that they are willing to sink so low as to defend a notorious criminal and mass murderer just because he was "anti-Communist", as if that automatically makes him a hero. - AuthorNeubius November 20, 2008


When the Adolf Hitler article is expanded, is his mass murder of Jews, Communists, homoexuals, Roma, etc going to be tucked into a separate section marked "criticism?" Just wondering.... --PF Fox 14:57, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Why not? They were both anti-Communist, which appears to be the only qualification for sainthood around here. Czolgolz 22:22, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

That cited link just reverted (moreless.au) is pure trash; it lists every US President since Harry S. Truman in it's "killer file", and has Franklin Roosevelt in its "hero file." This of course is no less than the Communist Party line of yore. [1]
I have a citation here, for example, which states,
"And Roosevelt and Churchill felt the exact same way. Russia was "our friend." Stalin was "Uncle Joe" to the American people. Any Russian who had defied Uncle Joe — any Russian who had opposed our communist friends and allies — deserved to be executed.
The revenge and ensuing holocaust had to be kept secret from the world. The American and British people had to continue maintaining their illusion that this was a war of good versus evil — that only the Nazis engaged in cold-blooded murder — that the Allies epitomized all the goodness of mankind.
Therefore, the Big Three spelled out their plans not just in the official Yalta agreement but, also, in a March 31, 1945, secret codicil to the agreement. As James Sanders, Mark Sauter, and R. Cort Kirkwood point out in their shocking book, Soldiers of Misfortune (1992), the codicil was kept secret from the American and British people for fifty years . The codicil outlined the secret plan by which the Russians POWs would be forcibly returned to Stalin's clutches.
American government officials called their part in the holocaust Operation Keelhaul....
That our Armed Forces should have adopted this term as its code name for deporting by brutal force to concentration camp, firing squad, or hangman's noose millions who were already in the lands of freedom, shows how little the high brass thought of their longing to be free. (Editors note: And stands in vast contradistinction to the very premises and principals upon which the American people were coaxed out thier neutrality, and stated objectives as to why they offerred to shed their blood in this war).
The roles played by each of the conspirators was clear: Roosevelt and Churchill would force the Russian anticommunists into Stalin's hands. The communists would take over from there and do the actual killing.
How many were turned over to the Russians by American and British forces? Two million individuals . Yes, two million Russian people sent back to the communists where they were either immediately executed or sent to die in the Gulag....
... American and British government officials take the position that "national security" will be jeopardized if the citizenry is ever permitted to know all of the details of the Allied holocaust. Thus, fifty years after World War II, American "adults" are still not permitted by their public officials to see the government's files and records on America's involvement in the "good war" and, specifically, in the Allied holocaust.
As with most claims of "national security," the concern is not so much with the security of the nation but rather with the security of the U.S. government and, specifically, the U.S. military-industrial complex. For it is entirely possible that the American people will finally pierce through all the lies and deceptions that have clouded their minds since the first grade in the public schools to which their parents were forced to send them. It is quite possible that they will recognize the wisdom of their Founding Fathers — and see that the biggest threat to their well-being lies not with some foreign government, but rather with their own government.
Was the Allied holocaust the end of the repatriation story? Unfortunately, no. The last chapter of Stalin's, Roosevelt's, Truman's, and Churchill's horrid tale of deception, brutality, and murder involves Americans "liberated" from German POW camps by the Russians — and the role played in this chapter by the U.S. government, the same government that has always insisted that the American people "support the troops." [2]
If some can discredit this source, the Future of Freedom Foundation, please do so. Elsewise I'm getting a little tired of this incessant trollish warfare, and editors may find themselves blocked for using sources such as the one just removed. Rob Smith 15:52, 25 August 2007 (EDT)