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You could spin off a Temptation article from this. --Ed Poor 16:32, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Indeed. I was surprised that the link was red. I was sure we'd have something on temptation by now. Vossyspeak 16:34, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Trying to be positive here

But this is terrible. This article has zero-depth. And, frankly, do we need the paragraph at the bottom? I mean, honestly, why not just describe the act and the attraction to said act and move on? Why all this religious stuff about the wearing of clothes? Flippin 16:35, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Well, it is in the Bible. I'm honestly appalled at the practice, but it seems to be gaining more prevalence as time goes on. Vossyspeak 16:38, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
I suppose, but there are a lot of things in the bible, must we include them all every time? Flippin 16:43, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

This site might just have moved beyond satire. Vossy, my man, I ask you this question in all sincerity: why would God care? I reckon coveting your neighbour's new patio furniture is probably naughtier than this. Anyone up for a game of the Seven Most Trivial Sins? --Robledo 16:51, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

I can't tell you Robledo. I also am at a loss to understand why J. Edgar Hoover would engage in such a practice. Patio furniture, I imagine, is somehow less interesting. Vossyspeak 03:28, 10 May 2007 (EDT)

So if I wear a skirt will I go to hell? What exactly constitutes female and male clothing? Some Pacific islanders wear sarongs, which look like skirts to me. Scots wear kilts, those are definitely skirts. Does God hate islanders and Scots? Should I stone to death the Scotish guy that lives next door to me? What about a woman that wears pants? Is she doomed to eternal hellfire?Prof0705 14:05, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Maybe the Deut quotation really means "thou shalt not borrow the garb of the other gender"? Since, by simple definition, any clothing I might own is a man's clothing, so I can wear it. But if a woman friend owns something, it is a woman's clothing, and I may not wear it. Even if it fits, and looks good on me. By the way, this (so far) is one of only three articles in the category "sin". Human 15:19, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
I guess it would depend on what is considered male and female clothing. Is the definition dependent on any particular culture? Are skirts of all kind feminine clothing? At one time pants were not worn by women, but they are now. So are women that wear pants sinful? If in 20 years sundresses are acceptable clothing for men can I wear one and not go to hell?Prof0705 17:29, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

Not trying to be positive

This is an encyclopedia article, not a Jack Chick tract. You don't have to include a Plan of Salvation with every article that describes an alleged sin. Insofar as a sin is purely a religious transgression, condemnation of cross-dressing as a sin belongs in a section titled "Religious Views on Cross-Dressing" or something like that. If you do quote the Bible, you really must specify which translation you're quoting. If it's your own translation, it might be helpful to indicate where you've strayed from the text -- the text you used renders the Tetragrammaton as "Lord," but doesn't use the usual typographic conventions to set it apart from any other adonai or kurios. Finally, don't address the reader in an article. You're describing something, not declaiming it.

Last, but not least, this article needs pictures. I'd supply one of myself, but my gown is at the dry cleaner's.--All Fish Welcome 17:35, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

And so it is done. I even used a good Evangelical Bible for the Deuteronomy quote. Unfortunately, the CSS for small caps doesn't seem to work here.--All Fish Welcome 17:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
Ha! That lasted all of five minutes. This article is once again a joke in poor taste. And of course the reverting editor didn't bother explaining his rationale in the summary line or on the Talk Page. Maybe I should just keep fixing this thing until someone can give me a good, solid reason why we need a Jack Chick-style Plan of Salvation here?--All Fish Welcome 17:57, 9 May 2007 (EDT)


Isn't there a difference between cross-dressing and being a transvestite? I think this article speaks more about Transvestitism (sexual gratification from wearing the clothes of the members of the opposite sex) than about the wacky antics of Monty Python or early Western theatre when women weren't allowed to act. Anybody else? DrSandstone 17:40, 9 May 2007 (EDT)


This article seems to be a LOT more tolerant of 'alternative' behaviour than, say, the Homosexuality article. Should the Corinthians quote not also be added to that entry? 50something 03:23, 10 May 2007 (EDT)